[00:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: llvm-toolchain-7 [i386] (bionic-proposed/main) [1:7-3~ubuntu0.18.04.1] (no packageset)
[02:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: llvm-toolchain-7 [arm64] (bionic-proposed/main) [1:7-3~ubuntu0.18.04.1] (no packageset)
[03:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: llvm-toolchain-7 [armhf] (bionic-proposed/main) [1:7-3~ubuntu0.18.04.1] (no packageset)
[05:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted llvm-toolchain-7 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [1:7-3~ubuntu0.18.04.1]
[05:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted llvm-toolchain-7 [armhf] (bionic-proposed) [1:7-3~ubuntu0.18.04.1]
[05:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted llvm-toolchain-7 [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [1:7-3~ubuntu0.18.04.1]
[05:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted llvm-toolchain-7 [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [1:7-3~ubuntu0.18.04.1]
[05:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted llvm-toolchain-7 [s390x] (bionic-proposed) [1:7-3~ubuntu0.18.04.1]
[05:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted llvm-toolchain-7 [i386] (bionic-proposed) [1:7-3~ubuntu0.18.04.1]
[09:09] <doko> mwhudson: do rust packages need regular rebuilds like ghc/ocaml? see update_output
[09:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qtbase-opensource-src (cosmic-proposed/main) [5.11.1+dfsg-7ubuntu1 => 5.11.1+dfsg-7ubuntu2] (kubuntu, qt5, ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[09:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qtdeclarative-opensource-src (cosmic-proposed/universe) [5.11.1-6 => 5.11.1-6build1] (kubuntu, qt5) (sync)
[09:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qttools-opensource-src (cosmic-proposed/universe) [5.11.1-5 => 5.11.1-5ubuntu1] (kubuntu, qt5) (sync)
[09:43] <mitya57> infinity: Hi, remember us talking about Qt documentation SRUs (bug 1799111)? I have now implemented a better fix, and as a demonstration there is qtdeclarative no-change rebuild with fixed docs.
[09:43] <ubot5> bug 1799111 in qttools-opensource-src (Ubuntu Cosmic) "lots of Classes missing from docs (e.g. QFileInfo)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1799111
[09:45] <mitya57> So what is in the queue now is a sync of three packages from a CI Train PPA: qtbase has a fix and rebuilt docs, qttools has another fix, qtdeclarative has rebuilt docs only. More details are in the bug description.
[10:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-azure [amd64] (cosmic-proposed) [4.18.0-1005.5]
[10:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libreoffice (bionic-proposed/main) [1:6.0.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 => 1:6.0.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.2] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[10:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libreoffice-l10n (bionic-proposed/main) [1:6.0.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 => 1:6.0.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.2] (ubuntu-desktop)
[10:41] <oSoMoN> can someone please accept libreoffice{,-l10n} 1:6.0.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 in bionic-proposed, it's a trivial patch to fix a FTBFS ?
[10:43] <Laney> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XJcD55nscm/
[10:43] <Laney> disco retry league table
[10:47] <doko> 18k?
[10:57] <apw> Laney, are you sure about the top one, isn't that like more than exist or something
[10:58] <Laney> certainly not
[10:58] <Laney> there's been 45-50k runs per architecture already
[10:59] <apw> Laney, but he managed to click on 18K links ... really ?
[11:00] <Laney> the database don't lie
[11:00] <apw> s/he/they
[11:00] <Laney> you can script it to use wget ir something
[11:00] <apw> heh, sometimes it does :)
[11:00] <Laney> retry-autopkgtest-regressions --help even tells you how to do that
[11:01] <apw> well ... is all i can say to that
[11:02] <ginggs> i think he ran retry-autopkgtest-regressions after the queues were stopped earlier
[11:03] <ginggs> but he does also have an itchy trigger finger :)
[11:17] <xnox> Laney, in my defense, voron killed half of mine; once; and retriggered in a broken way instead.
[11:19] <Laney> :>
[11:19] <Laney> those results don't say anything about whether the requests were legit
[11:22] <LocutusOfBorg> xnox, ping wrt boost upload? :)
[12:11] <LocutusOfBorg> folks, how do you feel about an haskell transition?
[12:12] <LocutusOfBorg> I can do it, we are close in debian now
[12:12] <LocutusOfBorg> but I want to manually sync packages, to avoid useless rebuilds
[12:22] <doko> too early, let poppler migrate, and the autopkg test queues empty
[13:14] <LocutusOfBorg> ack
[13:17] <LocutusOfBorg> tkamppeter, I'm uploading your cups-filters patch, ok?
[13:41] <ahasenack> samba 4.8 is stuck (disco) because ldb was updated to 1.4.x, and that requires samba 4.9. I'll work on it, but will take a day probably
[13:41] <ahasenack> the other issue is with ldb itself, debian's is now pulling in libmdb, which is universe in our case. I'll work on that too
[13:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libclc (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.2.0+git20180312-1 => 0.2.0+git20180917-2~ubuntu0.18.04.1] (no packageset)
[13:51] <doko> ahasenack: there's also a MIR needed for http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg  lmdb
[13:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure-edge [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.18.0-1006.6~18.04.1] (no packageset)
[13:53] <ahasenack> yeah, that's the one I mentioned, lmdb
[13:53] <ahasenack> I'm trying a build of ldb without lmdb, to check what we are missing
[13:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/main) [4.18.0-1006.6] (kernel)
[13:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-azure [amd64] (cosmic-proposed) [4.18.0-1006.6]
[13:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-azure-edge [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.18.0-1006.6~18.04.1]
[14:07] <oSoMoN> sil2100, when you have a moment, would you mind accepting libreoffice 1:6.0.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 into bionic-proposed?
[14:09] <kenvandine> sil2100: while you're at it, could you please accept fontconfig 2.12.6-0ubuntu2.2 bug 1803534 which i uploaded early last week to fix a FTBFS :-D
[14:09] <ubot5> bug 1803534 in fontconfig (Ubuntu) "Backport uuid based cache file naming scheme" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1803534
[14:12] <sil2100> oSoMoN, kenvandine: I'll try to get to those after lunch!
[14:12] <sil2100> (aka soon)
[14:13] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[14:13] <oSoMoN> and enjoy your lunch
[14:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: software-properties (bionic-proposed/main) [0.96.24.32.5 => 0.96.24.32.6] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[14:14] <kenvandine> sil2100: thanks!
[14:34] <tkamppeter> LocutusOfBorg, OK.
[15:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: update-manager (bionic-proposed/main) [1:18.04.11.7 => 1:18.04.11.8] (core)
[15:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-gcp-edge [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.18.0-1004.5~18.04.1] (no packageset)
[15:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gcp-edge [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.18.0-1004.5~18.04.1]
[15:36] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, hello what about uploading dpkg? https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+sourcepub/9617079/+listing-archive-extra
[15:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.408.41]
[16:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (bionic-proposed) [2.525.10]
[16:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-control-center (cosmic-proposed/main) [1:3.30.1-1ubuntu2 => 1:3.30.2-1ubuntu0.18.10.1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[16:22] <jbicha> vorlon: good morning https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/britney/hints-perl-udisks-trnascan/+merge/359620
[16:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: unattended-upgrades (xenial-proposed/main) [0.90ubuntu0.9 => 1.1ubuntu1.18.04.7~16.04.0] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[16:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: unattended-upgrades (xenial-proposed/main) [0.90ubuntu0.9 => 1.1ubuntu1.18.04.7~16.04.0] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[16:34] <vorlon> jbicha: nack on badtesting the newer perl; the previous badtest was added due to a missing test dep + the perl transition itself, whatever the new failure is it should be sorted, not ignored
[16:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-wsme [source] (cosmic-proposed) [0.9.2-0ubuntu2.18.10.1]
[16:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-wsme [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.9.2-0ubuntu2.18.04.1]
[16:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-memcache [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.57-2ubuntu0.18.10.1]
[16:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-memcache [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.57-2ubuntu0.18.04.1]
[16:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted poppler [source] (cosmic-proposed) [0.68.0-0ubuntu1.1]
[16:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libgnomekbd [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.26.0-3ubuntu0.18.10.1]
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted installation-guide [source] (cosmic-proposed) [20160121ubuntu7.1]
[17:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted installation-guide [source] (bionic-proposed) [20160121ubuntu4.3]
[17:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: black [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [18.9b0-1-6] (no packageset)
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected unattended-upgrades [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.1ubuntu1.18.04.7~16.04.0]
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected unattended-upgrades [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.1ubuntu1.18.04.7~16.04.0]
[17:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: lepton-eda [s390x] (disco-proposed/universe) [1.9.6-1] (no packageset)
[17:38] <infinity> mitya57: Yay.
[17:39] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: I'm getting to it.
[17:40] <jbicha> um it looks like we lost most of the autopkgtest queue: https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running
[17:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted update-manager [source] (bionic-proposed) [1:18.04.11.8]
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: qgis [s390x] (disco-proposed/universe) [2.18.26+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[17:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: lepton-eda [i386] (disco-proposed/universe) [1.9.6-1] (no packageset)
[17:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lepton-eda [i386] (disco-proposed) [1.9.6-1]
[17:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [s390x] (disco-proposed) [2.18.26+dfsg-1]
[17:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lepton-eda [s390x] (disco-proposed) [1.9.6-1]
[17:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted black [amd64] (disco-proposed) [18.9b0-1-6]
[17:50] <vorlon> jbicha: what are you expecting to see in the queue that isn't there?
[17:50] <vorlon> I can confirm from graphs of the queue that there's an unnatural drop-off
[17:50] <Laney> rabbitmq oomed
[17:50] <vorlon> ok
[17:51] <jbicha> I'm expecting to see over a 1000 arm* in the huge queues
[17:51] <vorlon> Laney: are you following through on this?
[17:51] <Laney> the easiest way to fix it is to wait for britney to not be running, and then delete its pending.json so that it re-requests the outstanding tests
[17:51] <Laney> can do
[17:52] <jbicha> thank you
[17:52] <Laney> sure
[18:22] <Laney> test request fest
[18:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gjs [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.54.3-1~ubuntu18.10.1]
[19:24] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: Mine ended up looking similar to yours, except you dropped a few hunks by accident, and your getenv "fix" wasn't quite sane.
[19:24] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: But gave you credit for noticing the singedness and implicit declaration warnings.
[19:24] <infinity> dpkg is warning-free, tempted to turn on -Werror...
[19:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: xorg-server-hwe-18.04 (bionic-proposed/primary) [2:1.20.1-3ubuntu2.1~18.04.1]
[19:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mutter [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.30.2-1~ubuntu18.10.1]
[19:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lxcfs [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.0.3-0ubuntu1~18.10.1]
[19:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wayland (cosmic-proposed/main) [1.16.0-1ubuntu1 => 1.16.0-1ubuntu1.1] (core, xorg)
[19:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lxc [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.0.3-0ubuntu1~18.10.1]
[19:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wayland (bionic-proposed/main) [1.14.0-2 => 1.16.0-1ubuntu1.1~18.04.1] (core, xorg)
[19:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-control-center [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1:3.30.2-1ubuntu0.18.10.1]
[19:56] <stgraber> whoever is doing the SRU reviews, the exact same LXC and LXCFS is in bionic-proposed, so if you're happy with the cosmic one, you'll likely be happy with that one too :)
[20:03] <mwhudson> doko: i know nothing about packaging rust packages vs rustc/cargo but i'll check
[20:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: horizon (bionic-proposed/main) [3:13.0.1-0ubuntu3 => 3:13.0.1-0ubuntu4] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[20:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: horizon (cosmic-proposed/main) [3:14.0.0-0ubuntu4 => 3:14.0.0-0ubuntu4.1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[20:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted poppler [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.62.0-2ubuntu2.3]
[20:39] <xnox> doko, mwhudson - i see this transition in debian https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/auto-rustc.html maybe we need the same?
[20:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libgnomekbd [source] (bionic-proposed) [3.26.0-3ubuntu0.18.04.1]
[20:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lxcfs [source] (bionic-proposed) [3.0.3-0ubuntu1~18.04.1]
[20:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lxc [source] (bionic-proposed) [3.0.3-0ubuntu1~18.04.1]
[21:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: zhmcclient (disco-proposed/primary) [0.21.0-0ubuntu1]
[21:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected subiquity [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.0.24.1~16.04.1]
[21:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted osinfo-db [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.20180929-1ubuntu0.1]
[21:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted fontconfig [source] (bionic-proposed) [2.12.6-0ubuntu2.2]
[22:20] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks infinity ! I wasn't sure either, I had to drop a lot of that po delta stuff :/
[22:20] <LocutusOfBorg> btw the previous ubuntu3 in my ppa was more "sane" and warning free
[22:20] <LocutusOfBorg> lets see how you fixed it
[22:22] <LocutusOfBorg> btw, I noticed the warnings mostly by change, because I was trying to understand if libzstd was really enabled :)
[22:23] <LocutusOfBorg> why isn't that change upstreamed in debian?
[22:24] <LocutusOfBorg> btw the getnenv change was tested locally in a simple test case and worked, not sure why btw :) (yes, because 0 and NULL are equal in my pc probably)
[22:25] <LocutusOfBorg> and now devscript needs a merge
[22:28] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: Already synced.
[22:28] <infinity> (after telling vorlon I was dropping his delta)
[22:28] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: The zstd stuff is "half upstreamed"... rbalint is still working on convincing guillem to love it.
[22:38] <infinity> Laney, vorlon: It might be about time to ask autopkgtest to forget about vivid, yakkety, zesty, and artful...
[23:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted knopflerfish-osgi [source] (bionic-proposed) [6.1.1-2ubuntu0.1]
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: elogind [i386] (disco-proposed/universe) [239.1+20181112+gd4a3f291e395+nosubmodule-1+debian1] (no packageset)
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: elogind [s390x] (disco-proposed/universe) [239.1+20181112+gd4a3f291e395+nosubmodule-1+debian1] (no packageset)
[23:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected usbmuxd [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.1.0-2ubuntu0.1]
[23:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: elogind [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [239.1+20181112+gd4a3f291e395+nosubmodule-1+debian1] (no packageset)
[23:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: elogind [ppc64el] (disco-proposed/universe) [239.1+20181112+gd4a3f291e395+nosubmodule-1+debian1] (no packageset)
[23:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected libreoffice [source] (bionic-proposed) [1:6.0.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.2]
[23:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected libreoffice-l10n [source] (bionic-proposed) [1:6.0.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.2]
[23:38] <tsimonq2> infinity, bdmurray: Soonish (as builders allow) I'm going to copy-package mate-screensaver to the Bionic queue with binaries; this is intentional. The security team has agreed to do a bionic-proposed --(aging period)--> bionic-security hop because it's a bugfix point release and it's from a PPA which has only -security enabled.
[23:39] <tsimonq2> infinity: Since you have Powers, you're welcome to copy my source from ppa:tsimonq2/security-test-builds to the security PPA if you prefer to get binaries from there.
[23:41] <infinity> tsimonq2: I'd prefer it from a PPA whose configuration I can see, yes.
[23:42] <tsimonq2> infinity: https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/security-test-builds/+sourcepub/9619104/+listing-archive-extra
[23:42] <tsimonq2> infinity: (I would assume there's a higher build score in the security PPA too, and a lot of builders seem to be down because of "Cleaning".)
[23:44] <infinity> tsimonq2: Copied to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-proposed/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[23:44] <tsimonq2> infinity: Thanks.
[23:47] <vorlon> infinity: forget at which level? do you want things cleaned out of swift?
[23:47] <infinity> vorlon: I have no idea what level of forgetfulness was applied in the past. :P
[23:48] <infinity> vorlon: But, eg, the results pages and queues don't show old releases that pitti cleaned out.
[23:48] <vorlon> infinity: are you sure?  I thought vivid was the release cycle when autopkgtest was stood up
[23:49] <vorlon> infinity: (and we have results for trusty because they were run retroactively)
[23:51] <infinity> vorlon: If that assertion were true, we'd have wily results.
[23:51] <infinity> And a wily queue.
[23:51] <vorlon> hmm
[23:51] <infinity> Err, the assertion that we started in vivid and never cleaned.
[23:51]  * vorlon nods
[23:52] <vorlon> infinity: so one problem is that the way we open the archive doesn't copy results around in swift... you may have noticed that if you try to follow the link to the log for the first result in a series you get a 404, because it tries to find a result for that series rather than the previous series that the test was actually run for
[23:53] <vorlon> (well, copying the results is maybe not the only option - but it also doesn't refcount them usefully)
[23:53] <infinity> That's certainly a bug.
[23:53] <vorlon> yeah
[23:53] <vorlon> one I think we need to fix before we start nuking past test results
[23:54] <infinity> Anyhow, I tihnk I see autopkgtest mentions as far back as... raring?
[23:54] <vorlon> ah?
[23:54] <infinity> So, the nuking has clearly happened many times.
[23:55] <vorlon> and are we ok with the historical information disappearing from http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/statistics ?
[23:55] <mwhudson> INFO 	librust-lazy-static-dev_1.2.0-1_amd64.deb: has 1 file(s) with a time stamp too far in the past (e.g. usr/share/cargo/registry/lazy_static-1.2.0/.cargo_vcs_info.json [Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970]).
[23:55] <infinity> Although, back then, autopkgtest was driven from jenkins.  I'm not sure when the cutover was.
[23:55] <mwhudson> what
[23:56] <vorlon> mwhudson: is that a recent build? I thought xnox fixed the Debian cargo toolchain recently to address that
[23:56] <mwhudson> yes
[23:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted systemd [source] (trusty-proposed) [204-5ubuntu20.29]
[23:56] <mwhudson> from 6 hours ago
[23:56] <vorlon> mwhudson: (but also: hurray for an archive upload check that is supposed to be applied in both Debian and Ubuntu, but somehow doesn't fail in Debian)
[23:56] <vorlon> ah; then who reverted xnox's change?
[23:57] <xnox> vorlon, i think dh-make-rust thing autogenerates .cargo_vcs_info.json with a broken timestamp.
[23:57] <xnox> vorlon, and people use that tool.... a lot....
[23:58] <vorlon> xnox: right, but I thought you were fixing that
[23:58] <mwhudson> ah yes, it's in the source package with that timestamp
[23:58] <xnox> hmmmm i didn't
[23:58] <vorlon> hmm ok
[23:58] <infinity> vorlon: I dunno.  I mean, maybe I'm wrong about cleaning, and we should ask pitti what we did in the past.  But I *think* I remember things disappearing from results and queues (and, by extension, that stats page).
[23:58] <infinity> vorlon: At the very least, the old queues should be closed.  If we want stats and logs forever, that's between you and swift.
[23:59] <infinity> vorlon: From my POV, though, the granularity of trends from LTS to LTS is good enough for those stats.