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tgm4883pjs: IDK00:00
pjstgm4883: ok cool, thx00:00
Bashing-ompjs: Not done it - can not vouch - https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2328152 to completely remove snap .00:01
pjsBashing-om: oh great, I'll read it . Thanks@00:02
pjs!*00:02
pjsBashing-om: hah, maybe I'll wait and see if someone can confirm this works on 18.0400:05
Bashing-ompjs: :) .. Let us know what goes .. for the IRC data base of knowledge :P00:05
pjsBashing-om: will do :)00:08
pjsBashing-om: welp, things seem fine. but I followed a diff process00:12
pjsBashing-om: https://askubuntu.com/a/1039434 did the trick00:12
Bashing-ompjs: :) thanks looking .00:18
pjsBashing-om: np00:20
kinghatanyone have a color laser printer? thinking about getting one00:21
kinghatbrother specifically00:21
pjskinghat: I have a brother mfc-j460dw and works fine with cups00:21
kinghatcups?00:21
pjscupsd00:22
kinghatah. inkjet00:22
* pjs nods 00:22
pjsI never remember.. I don't need anything fancy. I print maybe 3x a month00:22
kinghatlooking into laser00:22
pjsCool00:22
eia1xHi, does anyone knows how to fix the missing packages in dpkg? I'm receving many warning messages like: 'files list file for package X missing; assuming package has no files currently installed'00:48
eia1xI found something like this: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/7E4d6TPg9gKS7ortwKlA/ to reinstall each package, but doesnt works :/00:48
OerHekseia1x, depends what you are installing ?00:50
Bashing-omeia1x: Show in a pastebin the command and that output .00:51
OerHeksnormally one uses apt install -f00:51
eia1xIt happens with anything I try to install00:53
eia1xAlthough it seems harmless (only a warning message)00:54
OerHeksdid you run updates first?00:54
eia1xYep, I run a lot of first-aid: update, clean, autoremove, dpkg --configure -a,...00:55
eia1xthe command 'sudo apt-get --reinstall -dy install $(dpkg --get-selections | grep '[[:space:]]install' | cut -f1)' seems to almost fix, but returns 'Reinstallation of libmonosgen-2.0-dev (..packageX)  is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.'00:57
TJ-eia1x: the error means the /var/lib/dpkg/info/ is missing the <package>.list file(s)00:59
eia1xexample: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Z5vQJzZS32/00:59
eia1xbut it seems a lot of files, maybe I can update it...00:59
TJ-eia1x: looks like you broke the system somehow01:00
TJ-eia1x: is there anything in /var/lib/dpkg/info/01:00
eia1xTJ: ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info | wc -l <-- 1650201:01
eia1xbut only 3521 .list01:02
eia1xI tried to reinstall each package like this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42731637/dpkg-warning-files-list-file-for-package-xmissing-assuming-package-has-no-f but it doesnt works01:04
OerHekseia1x, is this bare install or WSL ?01:06
eia1xOerHeks: Well, is by side in dualboot (so I think is bare install)01:09
black_13what does nm show lots of exports that i am not particularly interested01:09
moredrowsyhi, i have a question. I'm trying to get to the grub loader. Whenever I start from uefi boot, i press the escape. However, I'm taken to the grub command line. how do i go back to the grub menu?01:09
OerHeksyes oke01:09
OerHeksmoredrowsy, press esc again?01:12
moredrowsyescape just give me a new command line01:12
moredrowsyoh nvm, i found out, just type normal01:12
moredrowsy-_-01:12
Bashing-ommoredrowsy: Try spamming the escape key . in EFI there is only a 3 second window of opportunity for grub to see it .01:13
QRwhich version of Ubuntu do you advice for running web server and mail server ? i've kvm nvme ssd.01:13
moredrowsyok, i'm at the menu, when i press e on "Try ubuntu", it actually loads into ubuntu. it doesn't give me the option to add kerna modes01:14
moredrowsywhy is that?01:14
moredrowsynvm01:14
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quartershello. can someone recommend a cli that will allow me to undelete some plaintext files that won't involve me making an image of the volume(like testdisk and photorec). I don't mind a bit of corruption01:41
moredrowsygot a question guys, so i'm installing ubuntu with uefi and one of the steps after installation during MOK management is to disable secure boot. why is this necessary or what's wrong with secure boot?01:42
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Bashing-om!info extundelete | quarters01:45
ubottuquarters: extundelete (source: extundelete): utility to recover deleted files from ext3/ext4 partition. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.4-1ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 56 kB, installed size 154 kB01:45
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gambl0rewhats the best way to upgrade my kernel?01:52
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quartersBashing-om: I tried that but I get a segmentation-fault01:54
quartersI should have mentioned that01:55
Bashing-omquarters: Well, as you are not going to image the disk and work from the copy .. try and see what fsck can do for the file system .01:57
quartersBashing-om: fsck -v /dev/mapper/MyVol returned clean. Is there another flag that I should use for my particular case02:07
quartersI'm so confused because the last thing I remember doing that might be related was: find . -name "node_modules" -exec rm -rf '{}' + so I might have deleted files that way?02:08
quartersdue to a slip of a keystroke or something02:08
Bashing-omquarters: Sorry, " /dev/mapper/MyVol" leave me behind as I have no experience with such . "rm -rf02:14
Bashing-om"is always dangerous !02:14
quartersBashing-om: thanks02:18
TJ-quarters: check the shell history for the exact command issued ("history"), maybe ?02:19
quartersTJ-: oh, awesome!02:20
Bashing-omquarters: Not helped .. shoulder to cry on . But do not loose hope .. others here can advise better .02:20
TJ-quarters: you know 'find' has a "-delete" operator, so you do not need to call "rm" ?02:21
quartersTJ-: I just took it from https://coderwall.com/p/guqrca/remove-all-node_module-folders-recursively and it's served me well before but just not this time, perhaps?02:21
quartersI have several terminals open usually02:22
quartersusing terminator02:22
TJ-quarters: so you've lost files? did you not realise immediately?02:23
quartersTJ-, yes, I lost them. and no, I did not realize until I just booted and tried to access the files and found two directories in there whereas before there were well over 5002:24
quartersis history stored in the user home?02:25
TJ-quarters: depends on the shell. For bash, it's .bash_history, which is what "history" shows02:27
quartersyeah. I'm not seeing anything in the .bash_history file indicating removal although I'm pretty sure I ran that02:27
gijoe3kHello all! Question for you all. I'm running Ubuntu 18.10. Besides some weird bugs, im really enjoying. I was wondering though. As much as I loath Window$, I really enjoyed and found useful the whole dynamic menu options on the icons on the taskbar.03:02
gijoe3kYou know when you right click the icon of a launch button or running program on the task bar and gives you a varied sort of options. I realize that Gnome 3 has this but it seems really limited and sad compared to WIn7 through WIn1003:04
gijoe3kIs there an Gnome Shell extension or gconf/gnome tweak option that would expand on these options?03:04
fengshaunhow do I troubleshoot a touchpad not working? My laptop suddenly froze, I tried to force shutdown, then rebooted and touchpad does not work at all03:18
fengshaunno buttons no movement03:18
fengshaunkeyboard works fine03:18
fengshaunnot sure what happened that it froze03:20
fengshaunI was just browsing03:20
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DarwinElfhow to start second X session on other tty?03:47
DarwinElfdon't say it's impossible, because that is not Unix-like.  It would be a tragedy if Ubuntu couldn't so was deviant03:48
Joahhey guys, i updated ubuntu mate and that brought me to mate 1.20.1. i'm having an issue now where things aren't showing up in the system tray/notification area. f.lux and networking/wifi aren't showing whereas they always showed up before i updated. any ideas?03:49
Joahnever mind, i think i figured it out04:02
Bashing-omDarwinElf: One can do that in xfce: ' ctl+alt+f2 ; startx -- :1 ; ctl+alt+f8 ' .04:05
DarwinElfBashing-om, well I want it to be a different window manager/desktop environment... Enlightenment one04:22
DarwinElfI tried a similar command to what you said, that works on other distributions, but Kubuntu said something like illegal to get/control that tty04:23
DarwinElfoh, I see, the Enlightenment PPA excludes xinitrc.enlightenment.  Come on now, that's bad design04:25
DarwinElfthe command you gave also doesn't start X but immediately shuts down04:31
DarwinElfi saw some forum posts that you no longer can create a second X session since Ubuntu 16.0404:31
DarwinElfthis is a grave bug04:32
DarwinElfit's when I really wonder about the people who say this is replicating Windows04:32
Bashing-omDarwinElf: That suggest to see if the command ' startx ' exist .. and if so .. read what it does in your environment . For me - startx is located /usr/bin/startx . /usr/bin/startx: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable .04:34
DarwinElfyes, of course it exists04:37
DarwinElfit runs and shuts down without starting X04:37
DarwinElfi didn't say it was command not found... that is 100% clearly a different error04:38
DarwinElfshut down means the command already started04:38
Bashing-omDarwinElf: And confirned that startx -- :1 no longer works :( - 18.04 .04:40
DarwinElfMicrosoft Wubuntu04:41
DarwinElfone GUI only.  Wubuntu04:41
DarwinElfso this is the level the developers stoop to04:41
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pabed___Hi guys , when my ubuntu 18.04 wanted to start it remains in this page05:39
pabed___https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nZ80NpVv/20181127_090432.jpg05:39
pragomerhow can I set strg+alt to act like AltGr (for doing { and }  )05:51
lotuspsychjepabed___: try this from tty: sudo apt purge gdm gdm305:51
lotuspsychjepabed___: then sudo apt install gdm3 ubuntu-desktop05:52
lotuspsychjepabed___: and as last systemctl restart gdm05:52
lotuspsychjepragomer: a question more for ##linux perhaps?05:54
pragomerthought that is perhaps distro-specific?05:54
pabed___lotuspsychje: how should I type command here it doesn't give me shell yet05:54
lotuspsychjepabed___: ctrl alt F1 to get in tty05:55
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pabed___I tried but didn't give me shell05:55
lotuspsychjepabed___: at your boot process, you press f1 for textboot right?05:56
lotuspsychjepabed___: or do you have quiet splash off?05:57
lotuspsychjepragomer: whats your end goal?05:58
pabed___I put f1, but it came to that page that I sent in picture05:58
lotuspsychjepabed___: so in early stage of booting, try to enter tty05:58
lotuspsychjeit should work05:58
pragomeri have no altgr key and want to type { and }05:59
pabed___lotuspsychje: I tried, I put ctrl+alt+f1 as soon as it want to boot but it doesn't enter to tty06:01
lotuspsychjepabed___: try the next combos too, F2 F3 etc06:03
pabed___I have tried too06:04
lotuspsychjepabed___: normally you always should be able to enter tty06:06
lotuspsychjepabed___: try different hits on ctrl alt F3 perhaps06:07
squidthesidHey guys, just installed ubuntu budgie. What are your favorite themes?06:08
pabed___lotuspsychje:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2obxO0nL/20181127_093842.jpg06:09
lotuspsychjesquidthesid: we try not to take polls in the support channel, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-discuss06:09
squidthesidoh, okay06:09
pabed___lotuspsychje:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/NxFtBpwP/20181127_093806.jpg06:09
squidthesidI'll go there06:09
lotuspsychjepabed___: yeah, i believe you mate..but still it should work at one point06:10
pabed___lotuspsychje:could i do  with live cd ?06:11
lotuspsychjepabed___: whats your graphics card please?06:12
pabed___Intel06:16
pabed___Onboard graphic06:16
lotuspsychjepabed___: so you installed ubuntu 18.04 and after install you got stuck at gmd right?06:17
lotuspsychjegdm06:17
pabed___lotuspsychje: my mainboard is ASUS z170-a06:17
moredrowsyhi, can someone tell me how to show internal partitions on the folders menu? for some reason, they arent on the files icon but can be accessed through the "Other"06:18
pabed___lotuspsychje: no I had 16.04 and last week I upgraded it to 18.04 and it worked until yesterday today when I was working with my ubuntu suddenly it restarted and it remained in the page that I sent its picture06:19
lotuspsychjepabed___: can you still enter a recoverymode?06:21
lotuspsychjepabed___: if you can, you could try enter a root shell06:22
pabed___No06:22
lotuspsychjeah kk06:22
lotuspsychjepabed___: well, if you really sure you cant enter tty, perhaps consider backing up your files with a liveusb, then reinstall 18.04 and try to save your /home or fresh install06:23
lotuspsychjepabed___: i think upgrade might have scrambled lightdm vs gdm3 somehow06:24
pabed___lotuspsychje: I don't know why my keyboard led turn off after ubuntu states to boot06:24
lotuspsychjepabed___: be back later mate, check here for the commands if you get in: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/178098606:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1780986 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "Boot stuck at ubuntu logo gnome display manager" [Undecided,Fix released]06:26
badboyjersup07:01
uzeeHi, kickstart issue, even though the ks parameter is passed via F6, it still loads the language selection screen to select the language and other things manually, I'm using the ubuntu 16 server image mounted on the virtual cdrom to use only to pass the ks parameter07:18
uzeeBoot Options: file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu-server.seed vga=788 /install/initrd.gz --ks=http://myserver.mydomain/kickstart/path quiet ---07:18
uzeeyesterday there was a network issue on my side and I thought thats whats causing issues, but not the case. It looks like I have to manually select a n umber of things07:20
uzeeTJ mentioned yesterday that other people have also been having problems with kickstart recently, thats why I tried ubuntu 16 and not 18, hoping to avoid this... :(07:26
pragomergot it solved via "autokey-gtk"07:37
ZaZaQRhello07:48
klu3im trying to clone 1tb HDD to 1tb SSD, the hdd have 2 partitions, will the partitions get copied/cloned to ssd when i use the linux dd clone command?07:55
hateballklu3: if you dd device to device, yes07:56
klu3ty07:56
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lotuspsychjeuzee: if you find a !bug in ubuntu, please report it08:19
lotuspsychjepabed___: did you get in yet?08:33
kakooniacan i use dropbox to drop a linux system?08:41
lotuspsychjekakoonia: this is ubuntu support, what do you want to drop where and how?08:41
kakooniajkjk08:41
kakooniawhat is the ubuntu latest desktop edition?08:43
kakooniawhy should i donate?08:43
surrounderkakoonia: 18.10 - see topic08:43
kakooniadonationis not applicable08:43
kakooniawhat is kubernetes? wierd08:46
nictkikakoonia: container for automating deployment08:47
kakooniawow sounds like what im looking for08:49
conallHi, I am looking for a ubuntu cli for xml 1.1 schema validation. As far as I am aware, xmllint only supports 1.009:31
ThJhow do you change/disable keyboard shortcuts such as Super+1, 2, 3... in Ubuntu 18.04?09:36
ThJThey're not in the usual keyboard shortcut GUI and I want to use the Super+[number] keys for something else.09:37
JimBuntukakoonia, https://www.saxonica.com/html/documentation/schema-processing/schema11/ and possibly https://github.com/NCAR/crux09:39
pabed___lotuspsychje: I spent a big time for figure it out but I cannot and I am reinstall a new ubuntu, unfortunately I didn't config my home in separated partition and I can use existing home(old home) in new one09:45
ThJhmm, nothing in gnome-weaks and gconf-editor is deprecated in gnome 3.09:45
ThJthere must be somewhere to change this. i want to use super+1,2,3,... for tab switching in my apps. (don't wanna use ctrl or alt, because those are already used in various ncurses programs for *their* tab switching)09:46
silhouetteThJ: try dconf-editor?09:49
ThJsilhouette: nope, i'll try that09:50
ThJhmmm...09:54
ThJfound the launcher shortcuts, but it looks like ubuntu isn't using the values set there.09:54
ThJctrl-super-1 is mapped to launcher icon 1, etc.09:55
ThJbut in reality, super-1 without the ctrl does it.09:55
ThJand changing it doesn't have an effect09:55
ThJsaw a question on stackoverflow where somebody customised a theme in order to get the keys right. not sure if that's the way t ogo09:55
ThJ*to go09:56
ThJwait, never mind, there's two sets of launcher shortcuts.09:56
swenginHi I'm trying to install kubernetes on ubuntu guest but vmx is not enabled since it's a vm but vmx is enabled on host any idea09:59
frojndHi there.10:15
EriC^^hi10:15
frojndWhere do I put - in which file to persist routing rulte (sudo ip r a IP via 192.168.1.1) I just added?10:15
frojndrouting rule*10:15
frojndAny ideas?10:17
EriC^^frojnd: maybe try in ##Linux or #networking if nobody here answers10:20
frojndBut this is distro specific?10:21
EriC^^they'll probably know10:22
sruliI installed pdfmod yesterday and i guess as part of the process it updated some other packages, i saw in the output that it added (or replaced) 133 certificates CA's is this normal or is something wrong?10:47
SimonKALIhow to connect iphone with ubuntu using usb?11:50
sud0x3The screenshots inside the 18.10 installer have incorrect infor,ation about the kts release length, not really an issue just a heads up :)11:50
FurretUberHi, I'm on Bionic using the linux-lowlatency-hwe-18.04-edge kernel, from proposed. I reported two bugs against it but each one went to a different source package11:56
FurretUberOne is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-signed-hwe-edge/+bug/180515011:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1805150 in linux-signed-hwe-edge (Ubuntu) "BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 00000000000000f0" [Undecided,New]11:56
FurretUberThe other bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta-hwe-edge/+bug/180489811:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1804898 in linux-meta-hwe-edge (Ubuntu) "System crashes hard after Intel GPU hang" [Undecided,New]11:57
FurretUberThe NULL pointer bug was reported against linux-signed-hwe-edge and the crash after hang was against linux-meta-hwe-edge. I think this happened because there was an update yesterday that changed the package names11:58
ThJi'd like to remap ctrl+c/v/x to super+c/v/x in ubuntu 18.04. i don't want the super key mapped to ctrl, though, because i want to keep the distinction. i have changed every setting in the Keyboard panel, and everything i can find in dconf-editor, but those keys aren't there. what do i need to hack to specifically tell gnome/gtk/qt to use these key combinations?11:59
ThJi have also changed what i need in Terminal preferences, but i also want this to work in miscellaneous apps.12:00
coconutSimonKALI: i don't think there is anything available at the moment for iphone Simon.12:21
coconutThere is GSConnect for android though.12:22
BluesKajHi folks12:22
uzeeI tried a kickstart install using an ubuntu 16.04.1 disk for booting only and then supplied a ks file over http to install 16.04.5 image but when it finished it had installed 16.04.1 from the cdrom, although it looks like 'some' kickstart config was used as the root passwd i had in the kickstart file works, any ideas ?12:24
TJ-uzee: I'm not sure the scenario you describe is possible12:39
uzeeTJ: pardon my lack of experience in ubuntu, I'm basically trying to create something that works successfully for centos/rhel12:45
uzeeSo for centos, i can attach a centos or rhel boot disk, say rhel 6 and the kickstart then takes over and whatever url is mentioned in the kickstart file, is what gets installed, the attached cdrom is 'only' used for booting and passing the ks parameter, is that an incorrect approach for ubuntu??12:46
TJ-uzee: I'm not entirely sure since kickstart is an RH tool and I'm not sure it was ever a 1st class tool for Debian or Ubuntu.12:49
lotuspsychje!iphone | SimonKALI12:51
ubottuSimonKALI: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod12:51
uzeeaah... :( I did fear that, but all the official docs at least claim that it works, they only mention a number of adv ks parameters are not supprted but never say that its not a supported mechanism :(12:51
lotuspsychjeuzee: can this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility12:52
uzee:0 I was just about to type that same url :)12:53
uzee:)12:53
uzeeI've gone through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility and https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/installation-guide/i386/ch04s06.html12:53
uzeeOne thing that I did figure out today was the syntax mentioned in the first article at help.ubuntu is slightly wrong, the ks parameter does not work with 2 leading hyphens, as mentioned there: linux initrd=initrd.gz -- ks=http://path/to/ks.cfg12:55
uzeeBut other than that, I've not been able to figure out why it takes the install files/packages from the cdrom, and then takes the root passwd from the ks file..??12:56
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lotuspsychjeuzee: you encounter errors we can search on?12:59
solsTiCehi. I just installed kodi for a quick test. And kodi sports an ugly logo 'KODI from debian'. wtf!13:01
lotuspsychjesolsTiCe: how did you install kodi?13:02
solsTiCepacman -Syu kodi-rbp13:06
solsTiCeoops pacman -S13:07
lotuspsychjepacman?13:08
fantyzzI believe I'm stuck with the same issue as mentioned here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1798171/comments/2513:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1798171 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "System fails to boot with \EFI\BOOT\mmx64.efi - Not Found" [Undecided,Fix released]13:08
fantyzzDoes anyone know how I can go about fixing this?13:08
lotuspsychjeEriC^^: one for you ^13:08
fantyzzI'm currently not able to boot the Ubuntu Live USB13:08
TJ-uzee: what is the command in your kickstart file that is supposed to trigger install from the network image?13:09
TJ-fantyzz: I think I made that comment after helping you last time, is that correct?13:10
fantyzzTJ-: I haven't been helped :)13:10
fantyzzIt happened to me a few hours ago13:10
TJ-fantyzz: oh... so we have 2 users affected. Can you add a comment to the bug report please?13:11
solsTiCelotuspsychje: oops apt install kodi13:11
EriC^^lotuspsychje: thanks13:12
fantyzzSure. I don't believe anything crashed on me either. I got to picking partitions when I realized that it didn't detect my HD and I needed to change things in the BIOS13:12
lotuspsychjesolsTiCe: are you on arch?13:12
solsTiCelotuspsychje: I talked in 2 channels at the same time. I tripped13:13
TJ-fantyzz: great! please mention that in your report13:13
solsTiCelotuspsychje: ubuntu 18.1013:13
lotuspsychjesolsTiCe: screenshot of your ubuntu, that says debian please?13:14
uzeeTJ: url --url http://myserver.mydomain/ubuntu/ubuntu1613:15
fantyzzTJ-: Will do. How do I go about fixing it though? Your comment doesn't give any instructructions13:15
TJ-fantyzz: I want user comments so I can get the developer to re-open the report and/or suggest a solution13:15
TJ-fantyzz: now we know it can effectively cause a DoS with no obvious solution; we may need to use a custom EFI boot image to clear the problem13:16
fantyzzTJ-: So I'm stuck with a laptop without Ubuntu for any forseable future? :(13:17
solsTiCelotuspsychje: you don't believe me ?13:17
TJ-fantyzz: precisely; that is why I want the dev to pay attention urgently13:17
lotuspsychjesolsTiCe: i do, just gathering facts before we create a !bug or so13:17
lotuspsychjesolsTiCe: if its kodi for ubuntu, it should not mention debian right13:18
solsTiCehttps://imgur.com/a/WxIDJoS13:20
solsTiCeI opened a bug report already13:20
lotuspsychjesolsTiCe: and you installed it from apt right?13:21
solsTiCehow many times do I need to repeat ?13:21
lotuspsychjesolsTiCe: feel free to share the bug url to the channel, volunteers might have a look13:21
lotuspsychjesolsTiCe: cool down, you changed your story few times right13:21
fantyzzTJ-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1798171/comments/2613:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1798171 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "System fails to boot with \EFI\BOOT\mmx64.efi - Not Found" [Undecided,Fix released]13:23
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charnelHi I have a strongswan VPN configured, when I connect it via phone or ipad it works perfectly. But when I use ubuntu I can connect but no internet.  Followed exactly this tutorial : https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-ikev2-vpn-server-with-strongswan-on-ubuntu-18-04-213:26
charneland my local ubuntu version is 18.04 too13:27
TJ-uzee: what precisely is stored/presented at the --url you provide? is it an ISO image?13:30
sruliTJ-: I installed pdfmod yesterday and i guess as part of the process it updated some other packages, i saw in the output that it added (or replaced) 133 certificates CA's is this normal or is something wrong?13:30
TJ-uzee: as in, a loop-mounted ISO image file-system13:31
TJ-sruli: you'd need to check the apt history.log, see what packages were installed/upgraded13:33
sruliTJ-: http://termbin.com/2b7x i see it updated ca-certificates-mono:amd64, no clue why13:37
SimonKALII have installed new ubuntu 18.10 on laptop and doesnt work mouse and keyboard13:49
SimonKALIwhat to do?13:49
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syntaxfreeI can interrupt any process with Ctrl-Z and then recover it with `fg`, right?13:53
syntaxfreeIs it possible to serialize that process with its state to disk?13:54
blackflowsyntaxfree: yes, no.13:54
nr9032nsc6Hi13:54
blackflowthough ctrl-z doesn't close file descriptors, its stdout/stderr is still that console, so ti might interfere with what you're doing13:54
nr9032nsc6I have a 16.0413:55
syntaxfreeit's mostly internal state.13:55
nr9032nsc6doesn't work, it doesn't return to invite13:55
nr9032nsc6this: /root/syncthing-linux-amd64-v0.14.52/syncthing &> /dev/null13:55
nr9032nsc6the "&" doesn't work, it doesn't return13:55
nr9032nsc6is it because I'm inside a tmux?13:55
blackflownr9032nsc6: which shell13:55
syntaxfreeI like literally picked up a neural network model from a tutorial, let it run for two days and it has impressive results.13:55
nr9032nsc6blackflow: bash i guess13:56
nr9032nsc6how to know?13:56
TJ-syntaxfree: yes, you can13:56
blackflownr9032nsc6: echo $SHELL for example13:56
nr9032nsc6bash13:56
blackflowTJ-: which part? :)13:56
nr9032nsc6but in the lower part of the screen i see: [ssh_tmux]0:bash*13:56
TJ-syntaxfree: Linux kernel has a facility called CRIU (Checkpoint Restore In Userspace)13:56
nr9032nsc6it's a container/vps, and when I ssh it, I already come in this tmux13:57
TJ-syntaxfree: see https://criu.org/Main_Page13:57
blackflowTJ-: so, hibernate just a single process?13:57
syntaxfreeI'll read up on it13:57
nr9032nsc6blackflow: any idea?13:58
blackflownr9032nsc6: &> means  "combine stdout and stderr" and redirect to a file. are you expecting it to go background?13:58
nr9032nsc6blackflow: yeah13:59
WoCnr9032nsc6, try either using screen or nohup13:59
nr9032nsc6WoC: i'm already in a screen14:01
mouseshe usually gets up around this time with his five dimensional space brain14:04
mousesif he's not up within the hour i'll just log in :)14:05
mouseslol mischannel14:05
emxi am currently logged in and am afraid that i forgot the password to unlock the LUKS protected partition when rebooting.14:05
mousespardon me14:05
emxis there a way to check if i remember the correct password or to set it while unlocked?14:05
emx-- or add another password?14:05
TJ-emx: add another. see "man cryptsetup" and see "luksAddKey"14:08
emxTJ-, just found something alarming: i open the disks program14:09
TJ-emx: you can only change an existing key if you know the passphrase (see luksChangeKey)14:09
emxand typed my current password and the new one. the program tells me that my current and new one are the same.14:09
emxshouldn't it just accept silently?14:09
compdocsounds like14:10
emxat least i know now that i still know my current password :)14:10
TJ-emx: :D14:11
uzeeTJ: sorry had to be away for a bit, I don't have the iso image mounted, but a full extract of the iso image under that directory, that is exactly how I kickstart centos/rhel14:13
uzeeTJ: so I mounted the iso image via loop initially and rsync'ed all the content to that local directory14:14
tibyke_moin14:22
tibyke_firefox is really killing me on 16.04.5 with not loading a new tab (or an already existing one on focus) just an animated spinner on white background. this is bloody anoying. any idea?14:22
tibyke_its 63.03 x6414:23
JimBunturemove plugins, possibly do a  complete purge & reinstall of FF? Hard to say without more details.14:27
TJ-uzee: right, that's what I thought. I believe that is wrong. The --url handler code sets the d-i mirror/* seeds. Mirror points to a valid debian ftparchive layout, as in what you see at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  - the ISO image only has a small number of (optional extra) packages in that layout. The installer itself works by copying its entire squashfs.filesystem (its root fs) to the target.14:36
uzeeoh wow, well... thats significantly diff to what I was expecting it to do :)14:38
uzeeTJ: so does that mean I can't provide a directory/location which holds all the relevant files for an install locally on my network? that seems kinda odd14:45
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droHello, I missed the step "encrypt disk" when installing Ubuntu 18.04 , how can I do it after installation?15:12
ioria not worth it15:14
sruliioria: I guess you mean the work required to encrypt are not worth and rather do a reinstall? (not that encrypting is not worth it)15:15
ioriayes15:16
TJ-uzee: The thing you've got to remember is, debian preseeds is a different concept to kickstart. preseed is about automating configuration of packages as they're installed; kickstart is about completely controlling a remote install15:36
TJ-uzee: and only some kickstart procedures map onto preseed-ing15:36
vltdro: It's possible, though.15:36
uzeeTJ: thanks, thats what i'm starting to understand now. Maybe I should just use preseeding for ubuntu automated installs. I had actually looked into it a little bit, but it seemed like a lot of options need to be supplied at the boot time for preseeding to work. and my first impression was that its not terribly easy to type 8-10 or more lines at the console for boot options... but maybe I misunderstood15:39
TJ-uzee: you know we have a netinstaller that would do what you want?15:45
TJ-uzee: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/netinst15:47
stennoworkgood day, i think i screwed up something in my install: i installed a new package, apt-get install wkhtmltopdf. it was successfully installed. now i execute `wkhtmltopdf` , and the system tells me -bash: /usr/local/bin/wkhtmltopdf: Can't find file or directory (translated from german)15:48
uzeeTJ: thanks much, I wasn't aware of netinst, will certainly look into it as well as get a better ,understanding of preseeding too... thanks very much for your help15:48
stennoworkhowever, wkhtmltopdf is installed in /usr/bin and i can call it fine from there15:48
tewardstennowork: `which wkhtmltopdf`15:48
tewardi assume it shows /usr/local/bin ?15:48
tewardclose out your command line and reopen it and see if it calls the /usr/bin one instead15:49
stennoworkno, it shows /usr/bin15:49
stennoworkok, lemme try15:49
tewardstennowork: close out your command line and reopen it, i think path caching is at play15:49
stennoworkteward, closing the shell and opening again fixed the problem: i can now access the program normally. thanks a lot!15:50
coconutAny difference between BIOS and UEFI with partitions?15:50
tewardstennowork: yeppers, enjoy.15:50
lotuspsychjecoconut: more a question poll for ##hardware15:51
coconut:) ok15:51
lotuspsychjecoconut: or is it related to an ubuntu issue of yours?15:51
coconutno, it's not. (actually for a windows pc of a friend of mine)15:52
coconuti will ask there, thank you.15:53
im0ndeHello, I'm searcing for a official Ubuntu vagrant image *with desktop*. Is this the official vagrant image? https://app.vagrantup.com/ubuntu/boxes/disco6416:28
im0ndeThe others are marked as ubuntu server, I explicetely want a preinstalled Desktop16:28
WoC  config.vm.box = "ubuntu/disco64"16:29
WoCdisco is a development version16:29
im0ndeWoC: Is there no stable GUI version avaitible?16:30
WoCidk, just giving fair warning16:30
WoCi dont see a vagrant for ubuntu16:32
im0ndeWoC: there is this one https://app.vagrantup.com/ubuntu/boxes/bionic6416:32
im0ndebut It doesnt say if it has a gui16:32
im0ndejust thats a "daily build"16:32
WoCif it doesnt, just apt install lxqt for quick gui16:33
leftyfbim0nde: that would be a #vagrant support question. I don't think Canonical makes official vagrant images.16:33
jjbbyHello, I am looking for a app that will act like macs Spotlight, a text search that will switch between open applications first. I use the super-key and text search to open new application instances. Any suggestions?16:33
im0ndeleftyfb: They are marked as "official"16:33
im0ndebut ok, will ask therer16:33
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pi0anti virus for ubuntu16:44
ikoniawhat about it ?16:45
RNMkaspersky16:45
BluesKajyeah, just what you need , a Russian anti-virus app :-)16:47
sruliwhy are we talking about anti virus here?16:48
ikoniawhat is the actual question,16:49
pi0are there any good free av apps16:54
pi0for ubuntu16:54
hollusionhttp://dpaste.com/3CJD4HP any idea why those two commands have different output?16:55
srulipi0: i am sure there are frre ones, good i am not sure, why do you need AV for ubuntu?16:55
hollusionthe mysql group does not seem to work 100% or what am i missing here?16:55
pi0i was worried about virus when browsing or email16:58
leftyfbpi0: use the software center16:59
hollusionre17:03
hollusioni had to relogin now it works17:03
pi0will do17:04
tibyke_JimBuntu, will try, thanks!17:05
walidbentalal1where can network config be on ubuntu 18.04 server when it is not in /etc/netplan?17:05
walidbentalal1even /etc/network/interfaces is not there17:06
ioriawalidbentalal1, check /etc/systemd/network/17:06
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walidbentalal1ioria thanks! it's there. but can't figure out how to configure the second interface since. no interface is defined.17:08
ioriawalidbentalal1, you should have something like  [match]  Name=enp1xx17:09
walidbentalal1ioria can i use netplan instead of this?17:10
walidbentalal1or the old way /etc/network/interfaces?17:11
ioriawalidbentalal1, sure17:11
ioriawalidbentalal1, a bit elaborated  thou17:12
walidbentalal1ioria: this file says: # This file sets the IP configuration of the primary (public) network device. # It was created by the OVH installer, please be careful with modifications.17:12
walidbentalal1ioria i am not sure how to go further without breaking things :P17:12
ioriawalidbentalal1, what kind of ubuntu server did you install ?17:13
walidbentalal1ioria 18.04 Bionic Beaver17:13
ioriawalidbentalal1, honestly idk ovn ...;17:15
ioriawalidbentalal1, i guess is a vps ?17:16
walidbentalal1ioria no dedicated storage server17:16
ioriawalidbentalal1, i see17:16
blackflowwalidbentalal1: weren't you here the other day asking the exact same question under a different nick?17:18
walidbentalal1blackflow today is my first day here. got the server yesterday :)17:19
blackflowwalidbentalal1: I see. so are you adding a new NIC or another IP to the same NIC?17:19
walidbentalal1blackflow on those servers there are 2 nics. one is activated by default ofcourse and the other one you can configure manually for vrack. that is the one i want to configure with a static ip.17:20
ioriawalidbentalal1, looks like you can simply edit aa /e/n/i   (for a failover ip)17:20
walidbentalal1blackflow i have done it on the 16.04 but not the 18.0417:20
blackflowwalidbentalal1: right. so just copy the .network unit from the main NIC and adjust for the second one.17:21
walidbentalal1blackflow i am not sure how to do that and i am afraid to break it since the server is already in production!17:21
blackflowwalidbentalal1: but if you insist, you can reinstall ifupdown and do it the traditional way with /etc/network/interfaces. make sure you remove the .network (and .link, if any) from /etc/systemd/network/   AND disable systemd-networkd.service17:21
blackflowwalidbentalal1: eh, well... real sysadmins do it in production. :)))17:22
walidbentalal1blackflow hahaha true. i just don't have the admin balls to do it on 18.04 just yet.17:22
blackflowbut I'd suggest you don't do that and just add the second .network unit, copy the first, change Match, Address and Gateway to comply.17:22
blackflowwalidbentalal1: I suppose it's not that critical production or else you'd have a safety net.17:23
blackflowso... just do it.17:23
blackflowbut hey, even testing won't help sometimes. I just now nuked a production machine by fiddling with the initramfs, despite of successful tests run in a cloned environment in a VM. Pffft.17:24
walidbentalal1blackflow this is how the current file looks like. that is easy enough. do i just add another one at the bottom with a different match and the right ip info for the second nic? https://pastebin.com/h8GCMVGu17:25
tgm4883Doesn't 18.04 server use network manager?17:25
blackflowwalidbentalal1: right, copy it and adjust Name, Address and Gateway for the vrack subnet17:26
blackflowtgm4883: nope17:26
blackflowewwww!17:26
blackflowbesides, this is a custom OVH image. they drop netplan (as they should :)  )17:27
compdocnetplan is the future17:28
Pdromehello again, if I install an earlier version of xfsprogs, does it replace the ubuntu os version or are they coexisting? And if coexisting how do i know which one i am using?17:29
* tgm4883 shrugs17:30
Pdromeexactly tgm ;o)17:30
tgm4883Pdrome: I would bet it replaces it17:30
tgm4883but you'd have to look at the package name17:31
tgm4883blackflow: looks like NetworkManager can be a renderer for netplan anyway (according to this thing on netplan I'm reading)17:32
Pdromei pondered if it leaves os version still in the gui menus but maybe i have to run the older version from terminal only - in other news i found that xfs has an irc so i hope to ask in there if they would consider adding back in support for v1 superblock as a legacy feature17:32
ikoniatgm4883: I'd be interested in how network manager parses netplan....17:32
ikoniaif you'd care to share your findings17:33
blackflowtgm4883: yes it can, but why on earth would anyone wanna do that on a server17:33
Pdrometgm4883: i get you i will check the package name - thanks17:33
tgm4883ikonia: IDK, https://netplan.io/17:33
tgm4883just saw it listed there17:33
tgm4883blackflow: there's lots of reasons why that is desirable, all of which would be OT for this channel17:34
blackflowikonia: it doesn't, netplan is config abstration that adjusts the backends. the backends have  no idea they're netplan's little puppets.17:34
tewardikonia: I don't think network manager *does* parse netplan17:34
ikoniatgm4883: yeah, but it looks like ubuntu is the only one using it and it doesn't seem to integrate into any of the services out of the box17:34
ikoniateward: no, it's manipluated by it, it would seem17:34
ikoniarather than taking the config in - the config is pushed to it17:34
blackflowikonia: yup. and ubuntu is going to be the only one using the NIHplan.17:35
ikoniablackflow: its another mir17:35
tgm4883IDK, I'd not heard about netplan yet17:35
tgm4883or at least hadn't looked into it too much17:35
blackflowyou ain't missing anything. it literally does nothing but configure a backend (systemd-networkd or NM) from its own YAML config.17:36
tgm4883ah17:36
ikoniablackflow: yeah, I thought it was parsed by those services, I totally missunderstood it17:36
blackflowit has no other function but to be config abstractor17:36
tgm4883All my work servers are CentOS 6/7 anyway so I wouldn't be able to mess with it too much17:36
ikoniaI saw potential for things like host based virtual infrastructure, but actually even with that....maybe not17:37
blackflowtgm4883: figures why ou'd think NM on a server is okay :)  fedora, centos 7, that's all NM, right?17:37
tgm4883blackflow: network-scripts, but we use nmtui to configure it17:37
TJ-ikonia: netplan came out of the cloud-init work for quickly configuring ephermal containers and VMs17:37
blackflow"quickly"17:37
ikoniaTJ-: ahh so it's come out of the dynamic config from cloud-init17:38
tgm4883blackflow: so yea17:38
blackflowtgm4883: yah. :)17:38
blurkiswhats the most simple and easy way to copy pictures from android phone to ubuntu desktop?17:38
blackflowI count LESS lines of code in my .network unit than in the netplan YAML needed to create it.17:38
tgm4883blurkis: plug it in and copy the directory?17:39
blackflowthat's what I do17:39
sud0x3blurkis: depends, I take it the device doesnt all you to use as removable storage device when plugged in via usb.17:39
tgm4883that is by definition, the most simple and easy way17:39
JimBuntublurkis, connect phone to computer, tap the notification area on phone and change from charge only to transfer files, open newly mounted directory, copy/paste as you see fit17:39
sud0x3blurkis: some phone only use the mtp protocol though17:39
ikoniaTJ-: have you actually used it in a real use case ?17:39
MylonHow would I recover a corrupt sun partitioned volume?  Testdisk found it, but doesn't have the ability to repair the header.17:39
blurkistgm4883: yeah. I was afraid of that. hahah...  I need to go find a free usb-cable then.. :)17:40
tgm4883blurkis: I would say the second most simple way would be to just download them from google photos, assuming you are backing up your photos to the cloud17:40
Pdromeblurkis: does your computer have bluetooth?17:40
JimBuntublurkis, you *could* use ADB over wifi, but it's a bit more complicated17:40
TJ-ikonia: netplan? Yes, but I do it under protest most of the time. It's fine for container config where the config is being generated outside and pushed in, but for bare-metal permanent hosts its overkill *until* users want to simply create complex configs, then it comes into its own... think bridges, bonding, vlans, and so on17:41
ikoniaTJ-: what advantage would it give you over say virsh for example17:43
ikoniafrom a real world point of view17:43
TJ-ikonia: virsh isn't designed to configure the guest internals17:45
ikoniaTJ-: ahhhhhhhh ok, I'm seeing the context now17:45
ikonianow I get the "push" mentality17:46
TJ-plus of course it works no matter whether the 'guest' is a container or VM managed by QEMU/virsh/libvirt/Virtualbox/vmware17:46
ikoniaTJ-: no, that's the key part I was missing, it's not just configuring the network, it's configuring a guest to participate17:47
ikoniaTJ-: nice example, thank you17:47
TJ-ikonia: it's *only* configuring the guest; nothing to do with the host at all17:48
TJ-ikonia: it's just a renderer that reads YAML and generates the actual config files for systemnetworkd or network-manager17:48
ikoniaTJ-: probably going to have to actually give it a real run myself17:49
BaKKaRhello ladies and gents, anyone to help me with by Ubuntu quest? :)17:50
BaKKaRI am having an issue with the audio in the 18.04 version i am running. After the last update the audio works only on some programs but it does not work on the others, i dont know why. Any help please?17:50
TJ-hmmm, I think my ultrabook is curling up like a dry sandwich!17:50
tgm4883BaKKaR: what programs work vs which don't work?17:51
BaKKaRtgm4883, sure! it works with VLC (only when i select audio profile as Alsa) and Rythembox. But when i try to use videos - for playing movies or watch anything on youtube - using firefox - it does not work17:52
tgm4883BaKKaR: what is your speaker setup like? Do you have usb headphones/speakers?17:53
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BaKKaRtgm4883, its the laptop built-in speakers17:53
TJ-BaKKaR: sounds like pulseaudio is using the dummy device17:54
BaKKaRtgm4883, if that helps, when i go to settings and test the audio from there the correct right/left speakers play the test sound17:54
tgm4883TJ-: possibly. BaKKaR I would install pavucontrol and check what firefox is trying to play sound through17:54
TJ-BaKKaR: we've had a few users recently report this; cannot recall right now what the correct solution was, but I do recall spending a lot of time investigating17:54
BaKKaRTJ-, thank you for pointing this out17:55
BluesKajfirefox requires pulseaudio now, so it should work17:55
BaKKaRtgm4883, shoud i install this right from terminal?17:55
tgm4883BaKKaR: sure17:55
BaKKaRTJ-, did all of them complained after the last update?17:55
BluesKajsometimes the intel audio bug rears it's ugly head , but it usually cuts off all audio17:56
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BaKKaRtgm4883, worked thank you17:58
TJ-BaKKaR: I can't recall the precise circumstances17:58
tgm4883BaKKaR: yw17:59
BaKKaRtgm4883, it appeared it was stuck on HDMI audio while it says it is unplugged .. meh!17:59
jnewtsoftware updater says i have available updates, but nothing in the list.  should I update nothing?18:01
BaKKaRtgm4883, videos played the audio now as well it was the same tuck on the HDMI profile18:01
tgm4883BaKKaR: I think you should be able to disable the HDMI output18:02
tgm4883on the configuration tab I thinhk18:02
lotuspsychjejnewt: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade18:02
BaKKaRtgm4883, yes i did select the correct output and it works now perfectly fine18:02
BaKKaR(Y)18:02
tgm4883great news18:02
jnewtthis install has always been buggy. maybe my hardware.18:03
lotuspsychjejnewt: hardware & apt? explain a bit more please?18:04
jnewtnothing specific,  it just seems to be buggy, this req to update software is just todays issue.   graphics are slower than windows.  doesnt boot to gui anymore, etc.18:06
jnewtlucky it boots to cli i guess.18:06
jnewthad good luck with server linux, desktop, not so much18:07
tewardjnewt: try Lubuntu, if graphics are slow, because GNOME is not resource-light :|18:08
tewarddifferent UI but it'd be a bit faster18:08
jnewtI should have the hardware to run whatever.18:09
jjbbyAny suggestions on using a text search to switch between active windows/apps? Everything I have found opens a new app e.g. search:music opens music app rather than going to the already open music app. Spotlight on mac does this.18:35
lotuspsychjejjbby: wich ubuntu version are you on?18:36
jjbby18.0418:38
jjbbygnome18:39
lotuspsychjejjbby: can super+tab help you?18:39
lotuspsychjejjbby: the activities in the left upepr corner does also give you an overview of all running programs18:39
lotuspsychje*upper18:39
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jjbbylotuspsychje, i use super+tab or alt+tab ot alt+` and alt+esc. I just want to explicit in what I am going to instead of tabbing through 10 open apps to get to the middle one18:40
jjbbysuper key alone also does the same as the activites button18:41
ioriajjbby, you can try the cerebro Appimage18:42
ioriajjbby, https://github.com/KELiON/cerebro/releases18:42
jjbbydoes that switch to open apps or just a launcher? Was looking at it and looks just like a launcher. Same for synapse, uluancher, and albert18:43
ioriajjbby, https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/cerebro-is-a-spotlight-linux-equivalent18:44
jjbbyioria, yeah, i saw that, only i think spotlight changed to more than just a launcher. Ill grab cerebro to and check.18:44
lotuspsychjejjbby: i recall there was a dconf setting too, to make 18.04 dock icons behave like unity click18:45
ioriagl18:45
lotuspsychjenot sure wich setting anymore18:45
iorialotuspsychje, you mean the 'roll' action ?18:45
lotuspsychjenot sure ioria its too long ago, had one case18:46
Minor723Is there a way to search files for text inside of them? I am running echo "$http_proxy" and it showing me proxy information that I cannot find on my system anywhere18:47
lotuspsychjeioria jjbby check dash-to-dock in dconf-editor18:47
leftyfbMinor723: grep18:48
Minor723leftyfb: grep and some text will search everywhere?18:48
denisbrHi, how I change the order in the alt+tab for use the order "by programm use" By default is by cpu usage for me I´m using Ubuntu Budge18:49
leftyfbMinor723: "man grep" will tell you how to use grep. At it's most basic: grep "some text" /path/to/file       or grep -R "some text" /path/18:50
jjbbyits such a handy way of navigating a lot of open apps and its become an obession to fidn the functionality.18:50
Minor723what if you have no idea where the file might be?18:50
ioriaMinor723, i'd start with /etc/environment18:50
leftyfbMinor723: or you could just type: "env"   to find what you're looking for18:51
lotuspsychjejjbby: check on click-action dash to dock in dconf-editor18:51
jjbbylotuspsychje, im looking at it now!18:51
lotuspsychjegood luck18:51
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leftyfboh, my bad. I assumed env would show you where an env was set from. It's not18:54
Minor723I see the incorrect proxy when i type env, but how can i tell where its getting that information?18:55
leftyfbMinor723: try: sudo grep -R "http_proxy" /etc/ 2>/dev/null18:56
Minor723proxy settings were in /etc/bash.bash.rc is it ok for them to be there?18:58
leftyfbMinor723: what exactly is the issue you are having?18:58
Minor723I am just trying to setup a system wide proxy that works and this bash file had incorrect information it it and it was overwriting the /etc/environment and other settings18:59
leftyfbMinor723: what version of ubuntu?19:00
Minor723leftyfb: 18.10 with no gui19:00
jjbbyUpdate: Rofi seems to be able to luanch and switch between apps.19:04
jjbbyok...the real update here is taht ubuntu(18.04 at least) does what I have been asking out of the box. super-key + search does exactly what i thought it didnt19:21
FreeBDSMwhat the hell? I installed `smartmontools` package to get `smartctl` util but it also installed `postfix`! I then uninstalled `smartmontools` package and did `autoremove`, but `postfix` package did not get deleted!19:52
FreeBDSMwhat a crappy idea to bind disk tools with mail tools19:52
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JimBuntuFreeBDSM, That sounds suspicious19:57
JimBuntuFreeBDSM, what do you get for apt-cache rdepends packagename smartmontools ?19:58
lordcirthFreeBDSM, smartmontools has the ability to monitor your disks and send warning emails, thus it Recommends mailutils.  And apt installs recommends by default, unless you pass "--no-install-recommends"20:02
lordcirthAlso, there's a reason apt gives a [Y/n] before installing extra packages.20:02
AngelKdelordcirth,  go outside of this webside  lol20:05
leftyfbFreeBDSM: you were told this 3 days ago20:05
ioriaand ,btw, it  'doesn't  install postfix'; it installs an mta; if an alternative is already present,it installs nothing  about it20:05
leftyfbAngelKde: can we help you with something?20:05
AngelKdeleftyfb,  no thank you20:06
lordcirthI'm not sure why he wants me to leave, but I'll assume it's a misunderstanding of some sort.  Certainly no shortage of those20:08
tchakatakHello o/ i would like to know if there is any piece of software like gnome keyring and seahorse... without all the gnome stuff ?20:08
AngelKdelordcirth,  you can do anything you want is possible that I misunderstood20:10
lordcirthtchakatak, a keyring that integrates with NetworkManager, etc, or a general password manager?20:10
tchakatakthat integrates with Nm / git ... etc20:10
ioria!info pass20:11
ubottupass (source: password-store): lightweight directory-based password manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-3 (bionic), package size 35 kB, installed size 149 kB20:11
chrismatthewssay I have a server running ubuntu on aws. AWS set it up with KEY_ID="key1" and starts a program. I ssh into it and set  export KEY_ID="key2" Does the program started on startup see key1 or key2 for the enviromental variable. And when I exit ssh, is my export undone?20:12
transhumanistok is there some new magic other than adding to ram at the end of the kernel line after splash and before --- in order to get it to boot to ram on next boot for live disk?20:12
transhumanistsorry adding toram20:13
tchakatakI'l take a look at it :)20:13
tchakatakthanks20:13
lordcirthchrismatthews, 'export' changes the variable for this shell and all subshells it spawns.20:13
lordcirthSo if you close your ssh session, all bash shells that contained the changed variable will be gone, unless you used screen/tmux/etc20:14
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chrismatthewsthanks lordcirth. Where can I find the env variables that are set when I start my ssh session?20:19
lordcirthchrismatthews, they are combined from /etc/environment, /etc/profile, $USER/.bash_profile, $USER/.bashrc, and possibly others I'm forgetting.20:20
lordcirthTo see the total result, just run 'env'20:21
lordcirthIf you want to change something for your user, add the export statement to ~/.bash_profile20:21
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Pdromewould dd and ddrescue be offtopic here?20:43
elias_aPdrome: AFAIK no if run on Ubuntu. :?20:48
elias_a:P20:48
lordcirthPdrome, common uses of them, on Ubuntu, should be fine. What's your question?20:49
Pdromeworking to clone a failing hdd, on 16.04 lts, is dd just for healthy hdds or can/should i be using it on this iffy hdd (i ask as i am aware of ddrescue and gddrescue as well so wasnt sure when each is appropriate)20:50
lordcirthPdrome, if it's failing, I would use ddrescue or similar20:50
pjsWhat is the proper way to take a pkg listing from one machine, use that listing to match the installed packages on another? 18.0420:50
Pdromei think i will need things like bad sector skipping, multiple passes etc so i take it dd wont do any of that then?20:51
leftyfbpjs: don't do that20:51
Pdromeelias_a: lordcirth: thanks for the advice20:52
pjsleftyfb: why not?20:52
leftyfbpjs: because it won't turn out the way you thin20:52
leftyfbthink*20:52
lordcirthpjs, what is the problem you are trying to solve?20:52
pjsleftyfb: so what do you suggest?20:52
pjslordcirth: server migration20:53
leftyfbpjs: just make a list of packages you want installed ... use a list of installed packages as a reference. Do not install every package from that list20:53
pjsleftyfb: Exactly what I was hoping to avoid :)20:53
lordcirthpjs, what kind of server?  It would be preferable to just know what the server is supposed to do, set it up to do it, and document.20:53
leftyfbpjs: if this is for a company and something that will be happening multiple times, I would recommend using tools like ansible to build deploy recipes20:54
lordcirthIf you don't know what it does or what's on it, you're doomed eventually anyway :P20:54
lordcirthI'd recommend Saltstack, but yes20:54
pjslordcirth: app server20:54
pjslordcirth: yes, we use Salt heavily but this client didn't want to shell out for it :)20:54
lordcirthpjs, you make them pay extra for Salt?20:54
pjslordcirth: I make them pay for time spent, yes.20:54
lordcirthBut salt doesn't take extra time, in my experience.  But ok20:55
pjslordcirth: huh? of course it does20:55
jazizif I point my domain to the IP of my server, do I have to do anything on the server side to allow access to it?20:56
leftyfbpjs: you are going to spend the time to build the list of packages you need installed using the "apt list --installed" as reference. DO NOT use that list to install every package from the list.20:56
lordcirthHalf the point of using it is that you can just git pull all the basic stuff you wrote already20:56
leftyfbjaziz: depends on what you want the server to do20:56
lordcirthjaziz, does your server have a public IP?20:56
pjslordcirth: all of our salt is done for FreeBSD, this client wants Ubuntu, this my question :)20:56
jazizleftyfb, I just want to use it as a site20:56
lordcirthpjs, ah, that makes more sense20:56
jazizlordcirth, Yeah, I think so20:56
leftyfbjaziz: for a web server, then yes, you need to setup virtualhosts for your domain20:57
jazizleftyfb, I see20:57
jazizwill there be any issue involving passwords for access?21:00
jazizsince I have to input a password for ssh21:00
moredrowsyhi, i was wondering how do i properly auto start powertop? ive added it to the systemd/service/powertop.service file with the correct info from arch wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/powertop21:10
moredrowsybut it never really auto start with the --auto-tune param. ive always have to manually type in 'powertop --auto-tune' for it to work21:10
moredrowsyotherwise my laptop always have rocket-like fan speeds from max cpu power21:11
lordcirthmoredrowsy, does 'systemctl status powertop' show any errors?21:12
moredrowsyshould i type that now that i manually started poewrtop21:12
moredrowsyor when i auto start with it not working?21:12
moredrowsylemme restart and see if it has errors cause right now it's okay21:13
moredrowsybrb21:13
leftyfbmoredrowsy: is there a /etc/default/powertop file?21:15
moredrowsylordcirth, hmm, powertop says cannot load file from /var/cache/powertop/saved_parameters.powertop21:15
lordcirthmoredrowsy, the archwiki has a section for that error21:16
moredrowsyleftyfb, no ther isnt a file there21:16
moredrowsyoh, lordcirth, ill look into it again. thanks21:16
Pdromehow do you get ubottu to spew out those helpful links to things eg for dd and gddrescue21:18
moredrowsylordcirth, the arch wiki says to run powertop with batery power only. like....just use my lappy normally with battery only and it will auto collect info or is there a command i need to execute while in battery only?21:18
lordcirthmoredrowsy, it just says to run it, so yeah, I guess just run on battery for a bit21:18
lordcirthIt's odd that it didn't throw the same error when you start it manually, though?21:19
moredrowsyno error when manually starting it21:19
moredrowsyi can seen that before i manually add in auto tune21:19
moredrowsythe tuneable is in bad state21:19
FurretUberOn Xfce4, what is the program responsible for doing the actions related to keyboard shortcuts as Ctrl+Alt+T or Screenshot? Some keyboard shortcuts stopped working21:27
lordcirthSo, I've got an 18.04 desktop VM, and I've edited /etc/gdm3/custom.conf to enable automatic login, but it's not working21:27
FurretUberShortcuts as Alt+F4, so seemingly the ones related to the window manager, still work21:27
FurretUberThis is not the first time this happens to me, but I never managed to discover what goes wrong. This is resolved by logging out and logging in again but is pretty annoying21:28
lordcirthAnyone see a problem with this config? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kbZZSZgnH6/21:30
FurretUberIs there a way to discover what is the problem? I know that xfsettingsd with XFSETTINGSD_DEBUG=1 environment variable shows nothing wrong when the problem happens21:31
FurretUberThere are spaces in the sides of the equal symbol, and is you username called guest?21:35
lordcirthFurretUber, the 'guest' user exists, yes21:36
Pdrome!info dd21:37
ubottuPackage dd does not exist in bionic21:37
Pdrome!info ddrescue21:37
ubottuPackage ddrescue does not exist in bionic21:37
lordcirthJust tried removing the spaces, doesn't work either21:37
Pdrome!info gddrescue21:37
ubottugddrescue (source: gddrescue): GNU data recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.22-1 (bionic), package size 126 kB, installed size 410 kB21:37
FurretUberDid you restart the gdm service? Maybe the service needs to be restarted21:38
lordcirthFurretUber, I've been rebooting each time to be safe21:38
FurretUberReading https://askubuntu.com/questions/967847/ubuntu-17-10-gdm-auto-login-not-working/968471 it says the "True" should be in lowercase21:43
lordcirthYeah, just found and tried that21:43
lordcirthHowever, looking at the GUI, enabling autologin for guest is greyed out21:44
FurretUberMaybe the name "guest" has restrictions21:45
FurretUberOr the user "guest" is not in the groups it needs to be21:45
lordcirthSetting a password for 'guest' un-greyed it21:46
lordcirthPerhaps that was the problem21:46
TJ-I seem to recall there is (was?) a way to prevent service start on new package install - but as far as I recall that was specific to sysv-init. Any ideas if there's a similar option on 18.04?21:57
blackflowTJ-: it was a dpkg setting iirc, and it basically prevented maintainer scripts which caused other issues22:00
blackflowTJ-: this, right? https://jpetazzo.github.io/2013/10/06/policy-rc-d-do-not-start-services-automatically/22:01
TJ-yes, that's sysv-rc22:02
TJ-I'm doing a chroot side-by-side upgrade and don't want services trying to start and bind to ports and so forth22:04
TJ-hmmm, apparently deb-systemd-invoke also checks /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d22:06
FurretUberWeren't the services startup requests ignored by systemd? Something like "running in chroot, ignoring request"22:06
TJ-FurretUber: yes, some are but I have seen instances where that doesn't happen so I suspect it depends on how the package .postinst script behaves22:07
Pdromedoes this look ok for a ddrescue command...  ddrescue -v -v -v -v /dev/sdc /dev/sdb pvrmapfile22:09
murthydoes ubuntu provide opencv contrib libs as a package?22:11
TJ-apparently a manual systemd mask is also possible, as in "ln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/system/unit.name (but you've got to know the unit names ahead of installation)22:11
Pdromedoes this look ok for a ddrescue command...  ddrescue -v -v -v -v -f /dev/sdc /dev/sdb pvrmapfile22:13
olabazhey, I recently installed ubuntu and it feels kind of slow. The first is the grub menu that takes several seconds to update when i change the selected boot option22:17
TJ-seems to work: "Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/bind9.service → /lib/systemd/system/bind9.service." ... "invoke-rc.d: policy-rc.d denied execution of start."22:17
puffI'm running xubuntu 16.04 LTS.  Just updated and restarted.  I make heavy use of the Workspace Switch gnome applet but recently it seems to add a new workspace every time I reboot.  I was up to 11, so I used rightclick/Workspace Settings to reduce the number, but I clicked too many times and now it's down to only ONE workspace... and then I couldn't get to INCREASE the number of workspaces.22:31
puffWhen I brought up the Workspace Settings dialog and clicked to increase the number it looks like it increases it and then immediately decreases it.22:32
puffI did right-click remove to remove Workspace switcher entirely, and now it won't let me readd it to the gnome menu bar.22:32
klowHeya.. anyone use debmirror or apt-mirror or any similar tool to create their own debian or ubuntu mirror? I've been tasked to do this an am trying to find the best tool. Having some weird errors with debmirror on xenial.  I want to mirror everything in amd64 / xenial only22:33
salamanderrakewhy is the default python still 2.7?22:37
Pdromeok my last attempt at asking... does this look ok for a ddrescue command?...  ddrescue -vvvv -f /dev/sdc /dev/sdb /home/ubuntu/Desktop/pvrmapfile22:47
Pdromeddrescue -vvvv -f /dev/sdc /dev/sdb /home/ubuntu/Desktop/pvrmapfile22:47
olabazhi, I have a question. When I install things into the /usr/local directory and /opt/ directory is that on my root partition?23:25
salamanderrakeyes, unless you put usr/ and opt/ on seperate partitions, hence  the first / is root23:26
salamanderrakeso /home is home from / root23:26
salamanderrakeand home23:26
salamanderrakeis local to your current dir23:26
salamanderrakeaka23:26
salamanderrakels /home23:26
olabazhmm, i think i have my home on its own partition23:26
salamanderrakeshould show you whats under home23:27
salamanderrakeand ls home23:27
salamanderrakemay cause an error or not, depending on where you are at23:27
olabazcan I increase the size of root by decreasing my size of home partition?23:27
salamanderrakeolabaz: is usr and/or opt on seperate partitions?23:27
Bashing-omolabaz: That is an open ended question, as everything is under / (root). '/' is the head of the file system .23:27
olabazno i only made root, swap, home23:27
olabazpartitions23:27
salamanderrakeolabaz: you 'can', but do you want to?23:28
olabazyes I am running out of space23:28
salamanderrakeyou have to do it with a seperate program23:28
salamanderrakewhat was installed into /opt that was important?23:28
olabazMathematica23:28
salamanderrakeoh23:29
salamanderrakethats not that big23:29
olabazit's 10.4 GB23:29
salamanderrakehow much room do you have?23:29
olabazand my root I made 20GB23:29
salamanderrakeoh, snap23:29
salamanderrakeyeah23:29
salamanderrakeI made that mistake befoer23:29
salamanderrakebut I have an extra drive that I mounted and put a bunch of stuff on23:29
olabazI read that I only needed 20 GB root23:30
olabazso I put that and the rest of my 1TB on home23:30
salamanderrakeyeah, thats never the case23:30
olabazso my home is pretty empty23:30
salamanderrakehow much of home is used?23:30
olabaznot very much probably 5 GB23:30
salamanderrakeI don't know if this will work23:31
salamanderrakeand to be fair, whoever said you only need 20 didn't know you were going to install Matha-huge-appa-tica23:31
olabazshould I just install everything into Home?23:31
salamanderrakehow did you install mathamatica?23:32
olabazI can reinstall mathematica23:32
salamanderrakeI don't know, I never installed it or used it23:32
salamanderrakeolabaz: is this *work related of for fun?23:33
salamanderrakecreate a folder under your home dir as opt/ or put it as .opt/ to keep it invisible23:34
salamanderrakeand install it to ~/.opt23:34
olabazok23:34
salamanderrakeyou may, depending on what mathamatica is, have to set some envirement variables23:34
olabazI can just make a folder in home and install everything there from now on I guess23:35
salamanderrakedo you have anything in ~/bin ?23:35
olabazno23:36
salamanderrakeIs mathamatica a libray or application or both?23:36
olabazan application23:36
salamanderrakedoes math~ have a bin folder under its root?23:37
olabazsalamanderrake: no23:38
salamanderrakewell, just symlink the mathimatica binary into your ~/bin folder23:38
salamanderrakeand either create a .desktop file or use the one they may provide and modify it to point to your install, unless it installs a .desktop file for you.23:39
olabazalright, I think I can do that23:39
olabazthanks23:39
salamanderrakewell, put the .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/ so your gui can find it and you can run it from the desktop or menu23:40
salamanderrakealso23:40
salamanderrakeA good rule of thumb is to create twice as big a drive/partition for / as they say you should, because you never know.23:41
ph88how can i change this sourcecode, recompile it and load it into my current OS ?  https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/ca9eb48fe01fa7fa60ff9f2196b1bd0d84dc81af/drivers/hwmon/nct6775.c23:48
klu3hello im trying to clone 1tb hdd to 1tb ssd using live-linux-system is my command okay? sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1M count=2 status=progress23:55
hggdhklu3: why only two blocks (count=2)?23:59

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