[01:48] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: thunar-volman 0.9.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-thunar-volman-0-9-1-released-tp52183.html (by Andre Miranda)
[11:41] <brainwash> libxklavier in 18.04 breaks layout switching in xfce4-keyboard-settings
[11:42] <brainwash> installing the version from 16.04 fixes the problem
[11:42] <brainwash> 5.4-3 (bad) vs 5.4-0ubuntu2 (good)
[11:42] <brainwash> a packaging issue
[11:43] <ochosi> yuck
[11:43] <brainwash> bug 1805197
[11:43] <ochosi> i guess that bug needs to be re-assigned to libxklavier
[11:43] <brainwash> well yeah
[11:43] <brainwash> already done that
[11:44] <brainwash> the linked upstream report mentions the same problem in Fedora
[11:45] <brainwash> so, something has changed in the way how the package is built in xenial vs bionic
[11:48] <brainwash> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxklavier/+changelog
[11:49] <brainwash> maybe Unit193 has some idea
[12:55] <brainwash> there was a ubuntu-specific patch which was not added to the package again after the debian sync
[12:56] <brainwash> debian/patches/revert-default-group-change.patch
[12:56] <brainwash> looks like xfce4-keyboard-settings relies on that one
[21:35] <ochosi> Unit193: wanna argue your -1 against apturl a little? it came up already during the meeting that you had voiced an unapproving opinion but it was never clear why
[21:51] <Unit193> ochosi: I mean not really, 'score' already shows it's seeded so it's a bit moot.  It has limited usefulness as it's not used anywhere except the one Ubuntu portal (if there), seems to be barely maintained, and never seems to work as well as it should.
[22:01] <brainwash> "many persons (NEW USERS) on the xub assistance french forum clic on the apturl links, and ... it doesn't work."
[22:06] <ochosi> well weird if it has a history of not working
[22:06] <ochosi> would have been a useful comment on the ML
[22:06] <ochosi> or even here on the channel, after you noticed we started a vote
[22:10] <brainwash> only ubuntu mate installs it by default
[22:11] <Unit193> I mean, I wasn't connected at all, sooo kind of hard to comment.
[22:11] <brainwash> I think it would help to showcase some use cases
[22:15] <ochosi> you mean potential ones from the xubuntu side?
[22:15] <ochosi> Unit193: sure, it's not too late though
[22:16] <ochosi> i remember bluesabre was talking about some quick fixes for the qt5 theming mess, which involves mostly installing a bunch of packages
[22:16] <ochosi> i could image if we have more such use-cases, having a website with certain apturl links for newbies could be helpful
[22:17] <Unit193> Did anyone test to see if it worked on the default desktop, by chance?
[22:18] <brainwash> ochosi: the ubuntuusers.de wiki uses apturl links quite often
[22:18] <brainwash> example https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Thunar/#Installation
[22:19] <brainwash> ochosi: you mean bug 1728236 ?
[22:19] <ochosi> yeah