[00:11] <valorie> hi folks, I had a person ask about touchpad settings being grayed out in Cosmic
[00:11] <valorie> they are for me as well
[00:11] <valorie> is this our settings? Plasma settings?
[00:11] <ngraham> it's in Plasma, not Kubuntu
[00:12] <ngraham> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387153
[00:13] <valorie> thanks ngraham
[00:17] <valorie> I asked them to comment
[00:25] <ngraham> We had a GSoC student working on it but we had to fail him because he stopped working and didn't disclose an outside committment that made it hard for him to devote enough time to it, and after that he disappeared
[00:35] <valorie> oh that sucks
[00:35] <valorie> I hate losing students that way
[00:35] <valorie> did you have me contact the kid?
[00:36] <valorie> or rather, us admins
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 Plasma 5.14.4 building in the main archive
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[03:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[03:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[03:55] <valorie> that's awesome, @acheronuk
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[11:28] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
 @acheronuk, now in -release!
 Cosmic n disco?
 disco
 is it coming to the cosmic backports ppa?
 We have 5.14.3 in backports so far.
 is there plans for 5.14.4 in backports?
 (if not thats ok)
 @pizzadude, for cosmic it is built. I just need to do some install testing and then should be good to go for backports ppa
 @acheronuk, thanks dude, if i ever met you in real life which is highly unlikely i would buy you a beer
 🍺
 You can donate to KDE lol or send him money for beer on a money platform. Maybe paypal?
 @ahoneybun, i would but im poor
 when i get slightly less poor ill donate $5 or something to kubuntu / kde
 or both idk
 i once donated to the repo "getdeb" (i think last year) but then it disappeared a year later so hopefully kde doesnt disappear ; )
 ill probably donate to kde in a few days when i get more $$$
 the question is, who is in need of more money? the entire kde project or kubuntu?
 random kde issue and a fix: if you enable global menu in plasma then disable it after, your applications wont have menu bar anymore. so you need to type cd ~/.config and then sed -i -e 's/MenuBar=Disabled/MenuBar=Enabled/g' *rc
[15:26] <ngraham> pizzadude: please submit using bugs.kde.org
[15:26] <ngraham> Product: Plasmashell | Global Menu
 ok
 its already reported
 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385951
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 @acheronuk is this safe to upgrade?
 (Photo, 443x332) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/5rc39w7o/file_11141.jpg
 The following packages will be REMOVED: …   libbreezecommon4-5 libbreezecommon5-5
 I dunno, is it?
 sarcasm - _ -
 its the backports ppa
 @pizzadude, yes
 why are those packages removed?
 though there is a fix for the taskmanager coming soon
 @pizzadude, debian decided to put the files in an existing package, so those packages are no longer needed
 ah
 thanks
 i thought it was some important package related to breeze
[16:47] <mparillo_> I upgraded the daily ISO I installed a week or two ago. First tried with Discover, but it just hung, so used apt full-upgrade -y from the konsole. Re-booted my VM, and no dead kittens. Briefly used Discover, Dolphin, Kate, Konsole, System Monitor, System Settings from both krunner and the kicker. kinfocenter now reports Plasma 5.14.4, FW 5.52, Qt 5.11.2. Thanks acheronuk
[16:49] <mparillo_> BTW, I stretched the kinfocenter window and just noticed the copy to clipboard. Wow. How many times have I complained I cannot select text there.
[16:50] <ngraham> > I stretched the kinfocenter window
[16:50] <ngraham> Ugh, we need to fix the default size!
[16:50] <ngraham> can you file a bug please?
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[16:52] <mparillo_> You mean that the default size shows scrollbars?
[16:53] <ngraham> exactly
[16:53] <ngraham> will try to fix later today once I escape from git hell
[16:53] <mparillo_> I assume Kubuntu inherits that from KDE, so file it on BKO?
[16:54] <ngraham> correct
[16:55] <mparillo_> I think it is already reported: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364767
[16:55] <ngraham> lovely, thanks
[16:55] <ngraham> that always looked so amateurish; I'll fix it
[16:57] <mparillo_> Thank you. I never really thought about it until I just realized it hides the Copy to Clipboard button. And, why can't it be klipboard? That would be k001.
 K00L
[16:59] <ngraham> that would just be kruel to our kommunity
[17:01] <mparillo_> Yes, valorie has advised me to grow up when I wanted Kubuntu to ship (and rename) kalligra.
[17:02]  * acheronuk wonders how big a patch we would need for that
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 @IrcsomeBot, just use sed and replace calligra with kalligra
 also upgrade to kde 5.14.4 went good thanks
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 ubiquity is broken in daily
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[18:48] <acheronuk> LP: #1805685
[20:10] <ngraham> Fixed https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364767
[20:10] <ngraham> It'll be in the next Plasma LTS release(5.12.8)  so no backporting will be required
[20:29] <valorie> mparillo_: lol
[20:29] <valorie> was I ever that rude?
[21:31] <mparillo_> No, you were not rude, but you did say that names like konsole were a thing of the past.
[21:32] <valorie> it's true, although there are still some holdouts
[21:32] <valorie> lol
[21:32] <valorie> falkon
[21:32] <valorie> tht's a bit more subtle though
[21:32] <mparillo_> I love konsole. Same number of letters, meaningful, yet branded.
[21:33] <wxl> what's wrong with konsole??
[21:33] <valorie> well, I use yakuake usually
[21:33] <valorie> but yes, same thing
[21:33] <valorie> I don't mind some of the older names
[21:34] <valorie> but we don't have to bend ourselves into pretzels to name everything with a K
[21:34]  * mamarley always thought the "K" names were Kool.
[21:34] <wxl> oh i think it's fun
[21:34] <wxl> i mean it's hard to write acrostics sometimes (at least ones that don't seem entirely trite) but it's a fun exericse
[21:34] <wxl> despite the occassional pretzel bend
[21:36] <valorie> pretzels and cheese, great snack
[21:43] <valorie> well, I love it
[21:43] <valorie> my go-to browser
[21:44] <valorie> I've only used chrome like once every month or two
[21:51] <acheronuk> ubiquity MP here: https://code.launchpad.net/~rikmills/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/359785
[21:52] <valorie> that's quick work acheronuk!
[21:53] <acheronuk> one commit, which already existed in another repo ;)
[21:55] <valorie> :-)
[21:55] <valorie> when the work is done, why redo?
 To get rid of old code that’s hard to change
 Im trying to fix three things in konsole over 3 months
 There’s 70 commits from me in konsole history just preparing code so I can do the changes I need
 .-.
[21:59] <valorie> that's the other side of it of course
[22:00] <valorie> thanks for all that work, @tomazcanabrava
[22:02] <ngraham> tomazcanabrava: are you getting close to being able to actually work on the features themselves?
 @ngraham, Yes
[22:07] <ngraham> awesome