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* vorlon waves15:59
philroche\o15:59
vorlon#startmeeting16:00
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Nov 29 16:00:24 2018 UTC.  The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:00
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vorlon[TOPIC] Lightning round16:00
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
vorlon$ echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson rcj philroche Odd_Bloke juliank fginther platonical tobikoch)16:00
vorlontobikoch xnox philroche Odd_Bloke platonical sil2100 cyphermox juliank tdaitx rcj vorlon mwhudson infinity rbalint doko fginther bdmurray16:00
vorlontobikoch: hello16:00
rbalinto/16:00
tobikoch* vanguarding job shadowing16:00
tobikoch* some parallel image build work16:01
tobikoch(done)16:01
tobikochxnox:16:01
xnoxpass16:01
xnoxphilroche,16:01
philroche* Release ARM64 AMIs to AWS (see https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/11/29/running-android-in-the-cloud-with-amazon-ec2-a1-instances and https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-ec2-instances-a1-powered-by-arm-based-aws-graviton-processors/ )16:01
philroche* Updates to ubuntu_watch_packages to render package stats to HTML (see https://github.com/philroche/ubuntu-watch-packages and https://private-fileshare.canonical.com/~philroche/ubuntu_watch_packages/package-stats.html)16:01
philroche* Cloud image build system vanguard16:01
philroche(done)16:01
philrocheOdd_Bloke:16:01
chiluko/16:02
Odd_Blokeplatonical: You go, I lost track of the time.16:02
platonicalok16:03
platonicalSubmitted some backports to xenial- and bionic-proposed:16:03
platonicalhttps://code.launchpad.net/~codyshepherd/livecd-rootfs/bionic-proposed-snaps-manifest/+merge/35964516:03
platonicalhttps://code.launchpad.net/~codyshepherd/livecd-rootfs/xenial-proposed-snaps-manifest/+merge/35964916:04
platonicaland partner image work16:04
platonical(done)16:04
platonicalsil2100:16:04
Odd_Bloke* Mostly out-of-office this last week16:04
Odd_Bloke* Cloud images vanguard16:04
Odd_Bloke* Code review16:04
Odd_Bloke* Some unblocking of disco cloud images16:04
Odd_Bloke(done)16:04
* xnox can go too.16:04
xnox* plugging in usb sticks into mainframe16:04
xnox - it's in!16:04
xnox - it boots kernel16:04
xnox - it fails to find initrd16:04
xnox* updating pythons for openssl sru into bionic16:04
xnox* getting a few subiquity merge proposals merged for s390x support16:04
xnox* helping unwind rust-* packages16:04
xnox* more systemd fallout discussions (xenial security reverted)16:04
xnox* merges: openssl 1.1.1a, meson16:04
xnox* uploading small bits to drop python3.6 from the archive16:05
xnox* subiquity zdev design spec review with design16:05
xnox(done)16:05
gaughenha love that the usb stick is your first item, xnox16:05
julianksil2100 seems missing16:06
gaughenjuliank, he's trying to find rand16:06
juliankit's a tool in openssl, see rand(1ssl)16:07
vorloncyphermox:16:07
vorlonjuliank:16:08
juliank* synced networkd-dispatcher16:08
juliank* send a merge request to networkd-dispatcher upstream16:08
juliank* wrote and fixed tests for unattended-upgrades for devrelease "auto"16:08
juliank* some emails16:08
juliank* some upstream apt discussions16:08
juliank* prepared a security update for redis in bionic (bug 1805822), gotta keep my vps secure16:08
ubottubug 1805822 in redis (Ubuntu Bionic) "CVE-2018-11218, CVE-2018-11219, CVE-2018-12326 forward-port for bionic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180582216:08
juliank* working on some merges16:08
juliank* off tomorrow - going cycling, deploying server, and/or baking christmas cookies16:08
juliank(done)16:08
cyphermoxo/16:08
juliankhey cyphermox :)16:08
cyphermox- Netplan:16:08
cyphermox - add tunnel support, manual testing, still missing doc16:08
cyphermox - writing unit tests for tunnel, integration tests still TODO16:08
cyphermox - investigating MAC/MTU apply behavior due to networkd matching16:08
cyphermox - SRU for MAC/rename issues on bonds/virtual devices16:08
cyphermox - reworked unit tests: not a single humongous .py anymore16:09
cyphermox - more test rework: integration tests16:09
cyphermox - briefly investigated moving away from nose for test runner16:09
cyphermox- verification for grub SRUs16:09
cyphermox- discussed tpm2-based disk encryption16:09
cyphermox- upstream plymouth patch for keyboard deactivation16:09
cyphermox(done)16:09
vorlontdaitx: did you make it back?16:11
vorlonrcj is off16:11
vorlon * short week, off last Thu/Fri for Thanksgiving16:11
vorlon * working on a minimal-change respin of Ubuntu 18.04.1 server live image to fix wrong apt sources.list on install16:11
vorlon * working on requisitioning port compute nodes into new canonistack region16:11
vorlon * prep discussions for Ubuntu Core sprint next week that I'll be attending remotely16:11
vorlon * archive transitions16:11
vorlon * admiring the work on the ARM64 Amazon roll-out16:11
vorlon * code reviews (livecd-rootfs, netplan)16:12
vorlon * next week:16:12
vorloninfinity not here16:12
vorlon  * working shifted hours to be in the same logical TZ as South Africa16:12
vorlon(done)16:12
vorlonrbalint:16:12
rbalint* adding more fixes to unattended-upgrades SRUs16:12
rbalint* u-u SRU verifications16:12
rbalint* bzr -> git conversion work16:12
rbalint  - announcing: email ubuntu-devel + http://balintreczey.hu/blog/migrating-from-bazaar-to-git-on-launchpad-just-got-easier/16:12
rbalint  - optionally include bzr metadata in git commit msgs16:12
rbalint* new round of u-u fixes for newly found issues16:12
rbalint* wireshark new upstream release 2.6.516:12
rbalint* upgrade twisted to 18.9.0 upstream releaes in progress16:12
rbalint(done)16:12
doko- got some transitions around icu migrated, but new ones piling up again16:12
doko- more merges, ftbfs fixes16:12
doko- gcc 7.4 release candidate, binutils update16:12
doko- javahelper fix, causing some ftbfs in disco16:12
doko- first gcc-9 packages available, preparing a test rebuild for the xmas season16:12
doko(done)16:12
cyphermoxvorlon: means you reviewed the netplan WPA Enterprise code?16:12
vorloncyphermox: that one not yet, but I reviewed the tunnels, did you see my comments?16:13
cyphermoxI didn't look at that yet16:13
vorlonfginther:16:13
fginther* Lots of partner meetings16:14
fginther* Working on an updated job posting16:14
fginther(done)16:14
fgintherbdmurray:16:14
bdmurrayupdated daisy not to write strange releases to BucketMetadata thereby16:14
bdmurray  eventually cleaning up First and Last seen column on main page16:14
bdmurraymodified whoopsie to write OOPS ID to .uploaded file (LP: #1582470)16:14
bdmurraymodified sru-report to no longer list Kernel PPA section (LP: #1720248)16:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1582470 in whoopsie (Ubuntu) "should put OOPS ID / URL in .uploaded file" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158247016:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1720248 in ubuntu-archive-tools "sru-report: Remove "Kernel PPA" section" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172024816:14
bdmurrayalso modified it to highlight incomplete bug report (LP: #1720249)16:14
bdmurraybionic, cosmic sru verification of LP: #179738416:14
bdmurrayafter overriding multiple nautilus false positive regressions had it fully16:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1720249 in ubuntu-archive-tools "sru-report: Color code Incomplete bugs differently" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172024916:14
bdmurray  phased for Ubuntu 18.0416:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1797384 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Cosmic) "release upgrader has no icon in gnome-shell dock" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179738416:15
bdmurrayxenial SRU verification of LP: #179720916:15
bdmurrayreported LP: #1805475 re u-r-u and computer-janitor16:15
bdmurraytested, uploaded removal of computer-janitor code from dist-upgrader16:15
bdmurrayreported ubuntu-mate bug LP: #180565316:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1797209 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Cosmic) "do-release-upgrade should block release upgrades in some circumstances" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179720916:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1805475 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-release-upgrader crashed with AttributeError: '_NamespacePath' object has no attribute 'sort'" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180547516:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1805653 in ubuntu-mate-artwork (Ubuntu) "launching firefox from terminal reveals Gtk-WARNING" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180565316:15
bdmurrayuploaded update-manager, u-r-u fixes for LP: #1798618 and LP: #179502416:15
bdmurrayfixed u-r-u using a negative number for free space needed LP: #178648416:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1798618 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "confusing error message with 'do-release-upgrade -d' and Prompt=lts" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179861816:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1795024 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "setting release-upgrades Prompt to never can cause confusing behavior" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179502416:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1786484 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "free space need for /usr could be negative which is wrong" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178648416:15
bdmurray✔ done16:15
vorlonquestions over status?16:15
vorlon[TOPIC] Bugs16:16
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs
vorlonbdmurray:16:16
bdmurraybug 180518316:17
ubottubug 1805183 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "systemd-resolved constantly restarts on Bionic upgraded from Xenial" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180518316:17
vorlonhmm16:17
bdmurrayI haven't investigated it but it might be worth having someone look at.16:19
vorlonagreed, putting it in the queueu16:20
bdmurrayI had bug 1591427 languishing in some forgotten tab and tested it again with the 18.04 server, not subiquity, iso and was able to recreate it.16:20
ubottubug 1591427 in pkgsel (Ubuntu) "Installer gives user option to deactivate automatic updates, yet automatic upgrade of security packages are on by default" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159142716:21
bdmurrayMaybe its not worth investigating with the move to subiquity.16:21
juliankwgat's the option doing?16:21
bdmurray-security is setup in Unattended-Upgrades Allowed-Origins16:22
bdmurraywhich conflicts with "no automatic updates"16:23
vorlonI think in terms of overall expected experience, the bug is in pkgsel's description of the option, not in the behavior16:24
rbalinti think the debconf question being ignored causes that16:24
vorloni.e. we don't want the user to have an option in d-i that actually disables automatic security updates16:24
bdmurrayah, that makes sense16:25
rbalintthe fix in LP: #157721516:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1577215 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "Origin pattern is unexpected on dpkg-reconfigure" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157721516:25
vorlon(so probably medium-low priority bug on the non-default installer)16:25
bdmurraycyphermox: is there any reason to keep you assigned?16:26
sil2100eh...16:26
* sil2100 forgot about the meeting again16:26
cyphermoxwat?16:26
sil2100I'm bad with meetings this week16:26
bdmurrayif you were paying attention you'd know you were assigned. ;-)16:26
vorlonsil2100: hi :) want to give us status after bdmurray finishes up?16:26
sil2100I'll prep one real quick16:27
cyphermoxwell, if someone else wants to do the pksel part of it16:27
bdmurraybug 1803786 I gess we should just do it16:27
ubottubug 1803786 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-support-status should report 10 years of support for Ubuntu 18.04 LTS" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180378616:27
vorlonuh16:28
vorlonthe 5 years beyond the 5 years is ESM16:28
rbalintis this public?16:28
vorlonso I don't think that should be advertised in ubuntu-support-status as the support length?16:28
bdmurraythere's a url in the bug16:28
vorloncommented now on the bug, disagreeing with the proposed change16:30
bdmurraywell the quote in the blog is misleading then as it doesn't mention ESM16:30
vorlonyes16:30
chilukAs someone on the outside, I had no clue it was just ESM.16:32
chilukGood luck with that communication.16:33
vorlonhttps://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/11/16/%23ubuntu-release.html#t19:2416:33
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rbalintso it is not official really16:34
bdmurraybug 1797335 looks interesting16:35
ubottubug 1797335 in glibc (Ubuntu) "strstr() on ubuntu18.04 8 times slower than on ubuntu16" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179733516:35
juliankwow16:35
dokothat's open for a long time, untouched.16:35
bdmurray2 months isn't a long time in Launchpad16:36
bdmurrayOkay so somebody will comment on that bug then, yes?16:38
vorlonI guess so :)16:39
bdmurraybug 1801439 is the last one16:40
ubottubug 1801439 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Unable to add software sources via the software-properties" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180143916:40
bdmurraythat seems worth taking on16:42
rbalintbdmurray, the software-properties-qt is in universe16:44
rbalintdoes -gtk work ok?16:44
bdmurrayI suspect it'll fail but will test it create a card if needed.16:45
bdmurraythat's it16:45
sil2100Should I just paste my status update?16:46
gaughenhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/cosmic/update_excuses_by_team.html16:46
dokoLINK http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/cosmic/update_excuses_by_team.html16:46
gaughenhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/disco/update_excuses_by_team.html16:46
juliankhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/disco/update_excuses_by_team.html16:46
dokoLINK https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html16:46
rbalinti'm already on twisted16:47
dokocurrently doing java-common16:47
dokoanyone automake-1.16? s390x only16:47
dokoand ubuntu-image?16:48
sil2100I'm looking at ubuntu-image, I *fixed* it16:49
sil2100I mean, still might need some re-runs here and there16:49
gaughensil2100, did you find some rand?16:49
sil2100But I did the 'xnox' thing to get rid of the py36 env thing16:49
sil2100gaughen: not yet!16:49
dokosil2100: then please give back the tests (I did it now for the pyyaml trigger)16:51
vorlonsil2100: yes; is that your status?16:51
sil2100- Preparing for trip next week16:53
sil2100- Kernel SRU reviews16:53
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases (not as many as usually though)16:53
sil2100- Testing ubuntu-image 1.516:53
sil2100  * Pushing out a hotfix version to fix the strange py36 failure16:53
sil2100- Pi3 armhf/arm64 work:16:53
sil2100  * Lots of testing trying to figure out the reasoning for the images not booting16:54
sil2100  * Tweaked the uboot.env to fit the bigger kernel - stuff now boots16:54
sil2100  * Created a temporary livefs project for testing the whole build process16:54
sil2100  * Iterated on the cosmic image, making it build on livefs, pushing out missing fixes16:54
sil2100  * Iterating on the bionic image, finding missing pieces and making it build the image16:54
sil2100  * Checking on the spamming of firmware messages on the console on bionic16:54
sil2100  * Started cleaning up all the branches16:54
sil2100  * Released livecd-rootfs and u-boot to disco16:54
sil2100  * Preparing SRU paperwork + the SRU backports16:54
sil2100  * Prepared ubuntu-cdimage changes for the new raspi3 devices16:54
sil2100- Preparations for the sprint meetings next week16:54
sil2100(done)16:54
sil2100doko: yeah, I pushed the buttons already16:54
sil2100Will make sure those are passing now with the new version16:54
vorlon#endmeeting16:55
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* tribaal waves hi to everyone16:55
juliankhey tribaal16:55
tribaalhey juliank16:55
sil2100o/17:02
tribaalsil2100: \o17:03

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