[15:59]  * vorlon waves
[15:59] <philroche> \o
[16:00] <vorlon> #startmeeting
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Nov 29 16:00:24 2018 UTC.  The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:00] <vorlon> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[16:00] <vorlon> $ echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson rcj philroche Odd_Bloke juliank fginther platonical tobikoch)
[16:00] <vorlon> tobikoch xnox philroche Odd_Bloke platonical sil2100 cyphermox juliank tdaitx rcj vorlon mwhudson infinity rbalint doko fginther bdmurray
[16:00] <vorlon> tobikoch: hello
[16:00] <rbalint> o/
[16:00] <tobikoch> * vanguarding job shadowing
[16:01] <tobikoch> * some parallel image build work
[16:01] <tobikoch> (done)
[16:01] <tobikoch> xnox:
[16:01] <xnox> pass
[16:01] <xnox> philroche,
[16:01] <philroche> * Release ARM64 AMIs to AWS (see https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/11/29/running-android-in-the-cloud-with-amazon-ec2-a1-instances and https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-ec2-instances-a1-powered-by-arm-based-aws-graviton-processors/ )
[16:01] <philroche> * Updates to ubuntu_watch_packages to render package stats to HTML (see https://github.com/philroche/ubuntu-watch-packages and https://private-fileshare.canonical.com/~philroche/ubuntu_watch_packages/package-stats.html)
[16:01] <philroche> * Cloud image build system vanguard
[16:01] <philroche> (done)
[16:01] <philroche> Odd_Bloke:
[16:02] <chiluk> o/
[16:02] <Odd_Bloke> platonical: You go, I lost track of the time.
[16:03] <platonical> ok
[16:03] <platonical> Submitted some backports to xenial- and bionic-proposed:
[16:03] <platonical> https://code.launchpad.net/~codyshepherd/livecd-rootfs/bionic-proposed-snaps-manifest/+merge/359645
[16:04] <platonical> https://code.launchpad.net/~codyshepherd/livecd-rootfs/xenial-proposed-snaps-manifest/+merge/359649
[16:04] <platonical> and partner image work
[16:04] <platonical> (done)
[16:04] <platonical> sil2100:
[16:04] <Odd_Bloke> * Mostly out-of-office this last week
[16:04] <Odd_Bloke> * Cloud images vanguard
[16:04] <Odd_Bloke> * Code review
[16:04] <Odd_Bloke> * Some unblocking of disco cloud images
[16:04] <Odd_Bloke> (done)
[16:04]  * xnox can go too.
[16:04] <xnox> * plugging in usb sticks into mainframe
[16:04] <xnox>  - it's in!
[16:04] <xnox>  - it boots kernel
[16:04] <xnox>  - it fails to find initrd
[16:04] <xnox> * updating pythons for openssl sru into bionic
[16:04] <xnox> * getting a few subiquity merge proposals merged for s390x support
[16:04] <xnox> * helping unwind rust-* packages
[16:04] <xnox> * more systemd fallout discussions (xenial security reverted)
[16:04] <xnox> * merges: openssl 1.1.1a, meson
[16:05] <xnox> * uploading small bits to drop python3.6 from the archive
[16:05] <xnox> * subiquity zdev design spec review with design
[16:05] <xnox> (done)
[16:05] <gaughen> ha love that the usb stick is your first item, xnox
[16:06] <juliank> sil2100 seems missing
[16:06] <gaughen> juliank, he's trying to find rand
[16:07] <juliank> it's a tool in openssl, see rand(1ssl)
[16:07] <vorlon> cyphermox:
[16:08] <vorlon> juliank:
[16:08] <juliank> * synced networkd-dispatcher
[16:08] <juliank> * send a merge request to networkd-dispatcher upstream
[16:08] <juliank> * wrote and fixed tests for unattended-upgrades for devrelease "auto"
[16:08] <juliank> * some emails
[16:08] <juliank> * some upstream apt discussions
[16:08] <juliank> * prepared a security update for redis in bionic (bug 1805822), gotta keep my vps secure
[16:08] <juliank> * working on some merges
[16:08] <juliank> * off tomorrow - going cycling, deploying server, and/or baking christmas cookies
[16:08] <juliank> (done)
[16:08] <cyphermox> o/
[16:08] <juliank> hey cyphermox :)
[16:08] <cyphermox> - Netplan:
[16:08] <cyphermox>  - add tunnel support, manual testing, still missing doc
[16:08] <cyphermox>  - writing unit tests for tunnel, integration tests still TODO
[16:08] <cyphermox>  - investigating MAC/MTU apply behavior due to networkd matching
[16:08] <cyphermox>  - SRU for MAC/rename issues on bonds/virtual devices
[16:09] <cyphermox>  - reworked unit tests: not a single humongous .py anymore
[16:09] <cyphermox>  - more test rework: integration tests
[16:09] <cyphermox>  - briefly investigated moving away from nose for test runner
[16:09] <cyphermox> - verification for grub SRUs
[16:09] <cyphermox> - discussed tpm2-based disk encryption
[16:09] <cyphermox> - upstream plymouth patch for keyboard deactivation
[16:09] <cyphermox> (done)
[16:11] <vorlon> tdaitx: did you make it back?
[16:11] <vorlon> rcj is off
[16:11] <vorlon>  * short week, off last Thu/Fri for Thanksgiving
[16:11] <vorlon>  * working on a minimal-change respin of Ubuntu 18.04.1 server live image to fix wrong apt sources.list on install
[16:11] <vorlon>  * working on requisitioning port compute nodes into new canonistack region
[16:11] <vorlon>  * prep discussions for Ubuntu Core sprint next week that I'll be attending remotely
[16:11] <vorlon>  * archive transitions
[16:11] <vorlon>  * admiring the work on the ARM64 Amazon roll-out
[16:12] <vorlon>  * code reviews (livecd-rootfs, netplan)
[16:12] <vorlon>  * next week:
[16:12] <vorlon> infinity not here
[16:12] <vorlon>   * working shifted hours to be in the same logical TZ as South Africa
[16:12] <vorlon> (done)
[16:12] <vorlon> rbalint:
[16:12] <rbalint> * adding more fixes to unattended-upgrades SRUs
[16:12] <rbalint> * u-u SRU verifications
[16:12] <rbalint> * bzr -> git conversion work
[16:12] <rbalint>   - announcing: email ubuntu-devel + http://balintreczey.hu/blog/migrating-from-bazaar-to-git-on-launchpad-just-got-easier/
[16:12] <rbalint>   - optionally include bzr metadata in git commit msgs
[16:12] <rbalint> * new round of u-u fixes for newly found issues
[16:12] <rbalint> * wireshark new upstream release 2.6.5
[16:12] <rbalint> * upgrade twisted to 18.9.0 upstream releaes in progress
[16:12] <rbalint> (done)
[16:12] <doko> - got some transitions around icu migrated, but new ones piling up again
[16:12] <doko> - more merges, ftbfs fixes
[16:12] <doko> - gcc 7.4 release candidate, binutils update
[16:12] <doko> - javahelper fix, causing some ftbfs in disco
[16:12] <doko> - first gcc-9 packages available, preparing a test rebuild for the xmas season
[16:12] <doko> (done)
[16:12] <cyphermox> vorlon: means you reviewed the netplan WPA Enterprise code?
[16:13] <vorlon> cyphermox: that one not yet, but I reviewed the tunnels, did you see my comments?
[16:13] <cyphermox> I didn't look at that yet
[16:13] <vorlon> fginther:
[16:14] <fginther> * Lots of partner meetings
[16:14] <fginther> * Working on an updated job posting
[16:14] <fginther> (done)
[16:14] <fginther> bdmurray:
[16:14] <bdmurray> updated daisy not to write strange releases to BucketMetadata thereby
[16:14] <bdmurray>   eventually cleaning up First and Last seen column on main page
[16:14] <bdmurray> modified whoopsie to write OOPS ID to .uploaded file (LP: #1582470)
[16:14] <bdmurray> modified sru-report to no longer list Kernel PPA section (LP: #1720248)
[16:14] <bdmurray> also modified it to highlight incomplete bug report (LP: #1720249)
[16:14] <bdmurray> bionic, cosmic sru verification of LP: #1797384
[16:14] <bdmurray> after overriding multiple nautilus false positive regressions had it fully
[16:15] <bdmurray>   phased for Ubuntu 18.04
[16:15] <bdmurray> xenial SRU verification of LP: #1797209
[16:15] <bdmurray> reported LP: #1805475 re u-r-u and computer-janitor
[16:15] <bdmurray> tested, uploaded removal of computer-janitor code from dist-upgrader
[16:15] <bdmurray> reported ubuntu-mate bug LP: #1805653
[16:15] <bdmurray> uploaded update-manager, u-r-u fixes for LP: #1798618 and LP: #1795024
[16:15] <bdmurray> fixed u-r-u using a negative number for free space needed LP: #1786484
[16:15] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[16:15] <vorlon> questions over status?
[16:16] <vorlon> [TOPIC] Bugs
[16:16] <vorlon> bdmurray:
[16:17] <bdmurray> bug 1805183
[16:17] <vorlon> hmm
[16:19] <bdmurray> I haven't investigated it but it might be worth having someone look at.
[16:20] <vorlon> agreed, putting it in the queueu
[16:20] <bdmurray> I had bug 1591427 languishing in some forgotten tab and tested it again with the 18.04 server, not subiquity, iso and was able to recreate it.
[16:21] <bdmurray> Maybe its not worth investigating with the move to subiquity.
[16:21] <juliank> wgat's the option doing?
[16:22] <bdmurray> -security is setup in Unattended-Upgrades Allowed-Origins
[16:23] <bdmurray> which conflicts with "no automatic updates"
[16:24] <vorlon> I think in terms of overall expected experience, the bug is in pkgsel's description of the option, not in the behavior
[16:24] <rbalint> i think the debconf question being ignored causes that
[16:24] <vorlon> i.e. we don't want the user to have an option in d-i that actually disables automatic security updates
[16:25] <bdmurray> ah, that makes sense
[16:25] <rbalint> the fix in LP: #1577215
[16:25] <vorlon> (so probably medium-low priority bug on the non-default installer)
[16:26] <bdmurray> cyphermox: is there any reason to keep you assigned?
[16:26] <sil2100> eh...
[16:26]  * sil2100 forgot about the meeting again
[16:26] <cyphermox> wat?
[16:26] <sil2100> I'm bad with meetings this week
[16:26] <bdmurray> if you were paying attention you'd know you were assigned. ;-)
[16:26] <vorlon> sil2100: hi :) want to give us status after bdmurray finishes up?
[16:27] <sil2100> I'll prep one real quick
[16:27] <cyphermox> well, if someone else wants to do the pksel part of it
[16:27] <bdmurray> bug 1803786 I gess we should just do it
[16:28] <vorlon> uh
[16:28] <vorlon> the 5 years beyond the 5 years is ESM
[16:28] <rbalint> is this public?
[16:28] <vorlon> so I don't think that should be advertised in ubuntu-support-status as the support length?
[16:28] <bdmurray> there's a url in the bug
[16:30] <vorlon> commented now on the bug, disagreeing with the proposed change
[16:30] <bdmurray> well the quote in the blog is misleading then as it doesn't mention ESM
[16:30] <vorlon> yes
[16:32] <chiluk> As someone on the outside, I had no clue it was just ESM.
[16:33] <chiluk> Good luck with that communication.
[16:33] <vorlon> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/11/16/%23ubuntu-release.html#t19:24
[16:34] <rbalint> so it is not official really
[16:35] <bdmurray> bug 1797335 looks interesting
[16:35] <juliank> wow
[16:35] <doko> that's open for a long time, untouched.
[16:36] <bdmurray> 2 months isn't a long time in Launchpad
[16:38] <bdmurray> Okay so somebody will comment on that bug then, yes?
[16:39] <vorlon> I guess so :)
[16:40] <bdmurray> bug 1801439 is the last one
[16:42] <bdmurray> that seems worth taking on
[16:44] <rbalint> bdmurray, the software-properties-qt is in universe
[16:44] <rbalint> does -gtk work ok?
[16:45] <bdmurray> I suspect it'll fail but will test it create a card if needed.
[16:45] <bdmurray> that's it
[16:46] <sil2100> Should I just paste my status update?
[16:46] <gaughen> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/cosmic/update_excuses_by_team.html
[16:46] <doko> LINK http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/cosmic/update_excuses_by_team.html
[16:46] <gaughen> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/disco/update_excuses_by_team.html
[16:46] <juliank> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/disco/update_excuses_by_team.html
[16:46] <doko> LINK https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html
[16:47] <rbalint> i'm already on twisted
[16:47] <doko> currently doing java-common
[16:47] <doko> anyone automake-1.16? s390x only
[16:48] <doko> and ubuntu-image?
[16:49] <sil2100> I'm looking at ubuntu-image, I *fixed* it
[16:49] <sil2100> I mean, still might need some re-runs here and there
[16:49] <gaughen> sil2100, did you find some rand?
[16:49] <sil2100> But I did the 'xnox' thing to get rid of the py36 env thing
[16:49] <sil2100> gaughen: not yet!
[16:51] <doko> sil2100: then please give back the tests (I did it now for the pyyaml trigger)
[16:51] <vorlon> sil2100: yes; is that your status?
[16:53] <sil2100> - Preparing for trip next week
[16:53] <sil2100> - Kernel SRU reviews
[16:53] <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases (not as many as usually though)
[16:53] <sil2100> - Testing ubuntu-image 1.5
[16:53] <sil2100>   * Pushing out a hotfix version to fix the strange py36 failure
[16:53] <sil2100> - Pi3 armhf/arm64 work:
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Lots of testing trying to figure out the reasoning for the images not booting
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Tweaked the uboot.env to fit the bigger kernel - stuff now boots
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Created a temporary livefs project for testing the whole build process
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Iterated on the cosmic image, making it build on livefs, pushing out missing fixes
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Iterating on the bionic image, finding missing pieces and making it build the image
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Checking on the spamming of firmware messages on the console on bionic
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Started cleaning up all the branches
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Released livecd-rootfs and u-boot to disco
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Preparing SRU paperwork + the SRU backports
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Prepared ubuntu-cdimage changes for the new raspi3 devices
[16:54] <sil2100> - Preparations for the sprint meetings next week
[16:54] <sil2100> (done)
[16:54] <sil2100> doko: yeah, I pushed the buttons already
[16:54] <sil2100> Will make sure those are passing now with the new version
[16:55] <vorlon> #endmeeting
[16:55] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Nov 29 16:55:13 2018 UTC.
[16:55] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-11-29-16.00.moin.txt
[16:55]  * tribaal waves hi to everyone
[16:55] <juliank> hey tribaal
[16:55] <tribaal> hey juliank
[17:02] <sil2100> o/
[17:03] <tribaal> sil2100: \o