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| lubot | Barika was added by: Barika | 15:51 |
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| lubot | <Barika> (Photo, 992x1280) https://i.imgur.com/CQBRsvw.jpg | 15:52 |
| lubot | <Barika> Asking these questions in the right channel? | 15:53 |
| lubot | <teward001> Barika i think it depends on the specific applications, in most cases you'd have to compile newer software versions yourself, or use snaps or flatpaks | 15:54 |
| lubot | <teward001> or stay on the latest release of Lubuntu every time | 15:54 |
| lubot | <teward001> or backport software packages yourself like I do in some cases | 15:54 |
| lubot | <teward001> in most cases, you're going to run into version-locked packages in the repositories though due to how the package repos policies are | 15:55 |
| lubot | <teward001> of which Simon knows these well | 15:55 |
| lubot | <teward001> ... sorta. | 15:55 |
| lubot | <teward001> *shot* | 15:55 |
| lubot | <Barika> So flameshot is an example. | 15:55 |
| lubot | <Barika> Looks like its on really old version missing a lot of fixes. | 15:56 |
| lubot | <teward001> that one you can blame on Debian | 15:56 |
| lubot | <teward001> since the version in Ubuntu is autosynced from Debian | 15:56 |
| lubot | <teward001> you'd either need to package it yourself per the flameshot packaging documentation or compile it yourself and install manually | 15:56 |
| lubot | <Barika> That is the one thing I love about arch is the community keeps packages pretty updated. | 15:57 |
| lubot | <Barika> I always had issues compiling myself missing the right version of dependencies etc.. | 15:58 |
| lubot | <Barika> But then the challenge with Arch is that some third party like my scanner and VPN only release packages for more mainstream distro. | 15:59 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Then Ubuntu isn't for you. | 15:59 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> And neither is Lubuntu. | 15:59 |
| lubot | <teward001> Ubuntu targets stability, not cutting-edge | 15:59 |
| lubot | <teward001> the closest you'd get is Debian Sid | 15:59 |
| lubot | <teward001> and that's not Ubuntu/Lubuntu | 15:59 |
| lubot | <Barika> Yeah i guess I am trying to discover how people manage things when they run into these issues in their distro of choice. | 16:00 |
| lubot | <teward001> power users like me backport the things they need or package the newer versions into PPAs for their own use | 16:01 |
| lubot | <teward001> or compile them by hand | 16:01 |
| lubot | <teward001> but such power users are hard to come by | 16:01 |
| lubot | <Barika> Ubuntu varients great for third party support. Arch great for have latest package support and easy install. | 16:01 |
| lubot | <teward001> (and I do packaging stuff for the Ubuntu SErver Team so I'm fairly fluent in that) | 16:01 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @teward001 [(and I do packaging stuff for the Ubuntu SErver Team so I'm fairly fluent in tha …], *just nginx | 16:02 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> *shot* | 16:02 |
| lubot | <teward001> oh I do more packaging contribs than you realize lol | 16:02 |
| lubot | <teward001> my fingers just aren't everywhere unlike yours. | 16:02 |
| lubot | <teward001> *cough* | 16:02 |
| lubot | <Barika> Yeah I am not a power user and have tried in past only to completely jack my system up by installing dependent packages that then mess up other things sometimes. | 16:03 |
| lubot | <Barika> Looks like sid version is at one of later releases of flsmeshot. | 16:06 |
| lubot | <teward001> well... there's newer versions in Cosmic too | 16:14 |
| lubot | <teward001> but meh | 16:14 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @teward001 [well... there's newer versions in Cosmic too], *Disco | 16:14 |
| lubot | <teward001> @tsimonq2 you need to learn to rmadison | 16:15 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @teward001 [@tsimonq2 you need to learn to rmadison], So do you | 16:15 |
| lubot | <teward001> *rolls eyes, then goes back to backporting newer Wireshark things for Bionic for himself* | 16:16 |
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