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[15:51] <lubot> Barika was added by: Barika
[15:52] <lubot> <Barika> (Photo, 992x1280) https://i.imgur.com/CQBRsvw.jpg
[15:53] <lubot> <Barika> Asking these questions in the right channel?
[15:54] <lubot> <teward001> Barika i think it depends on the specific applications, in most cases you'd have to compile newer software versions yourself, or use snaps or flatpaks
[15:54] <lubot> <teward001> or stay on the latest release of Lubuntu every time
[15:54] <lubot> <teward001> or backport software packages yourself like I do in some cases
[15:55] <lubot> <teward001> in most cases, you're going to run into version-locked packages in the repositories though due to how the package repos policies are
[15:55] <lubot> <teward001> of which Simon knows these well
[15:55] <lubot> <teward001> ... sorta.
[15:55] <lubot> <teward001> *shot*
[15:55] <lubot> <Barika> So flameshot is an example.
[15:56] <lubot> <Barika> Looks like its on really old version missing a lot of fixes.
[15:56] <lubot> <teward001> that one you can blame on Debian
[15:56] <lubot> <teward001> since the version in Ubuntu is autosynced from Debian
[15:56] <lubot> <teward001> you'd either need to package it yourself per the flameshot packaging documentation or compile it yourself and install manually
[15:57] <lubot> <Barika> That is the one thing I love about arch is the community keeps packages pretty updated.
[15:58] <lubot> <Barika> I always had issues compiling myself missing the right version of dependencies  etc..
[15:59] <lubot> <Barika> But then the challenge with Arch is that some third party like my scanner and VPN only release packages for more mainstream distro.
[15:59] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Then Ubuntu isn't for you.
[15:59] <lubot> <tsimonq2> And neither is Lubuntu.
[15:59] <lubot> <teward001> Ubuntu targets stability, not cutting-edge
[15:59] <lubot> <teward001> the closest you'd get is Debian Sid
[15:59] <lubot> <teward001> and that's not Ubuntu/Lubuntu
[16:00] <lubot> <Barika> Yeah i guess I am trying to discover how people manage things when they run into these issues in their distro of choice.
[16:01] <lubot> <teward001> power users like me backport the things they need or package the newer versions into PPAs for their own use
[16:01] <lubot> <teward001> or compile them by hand
[16:01] <lubot> <teward001> but such power users are hard to come by
[16:01] <lubot> <Barika> Ubuntu varients great for third party support. Arch great for have latest package support and easy install.
[16:01] <lubot> <teward001> (and I do packaging stuff for the Ubuntu SErver Team so I'm fairly fluent in that)
[16:02] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @teward001 [(and I do packaging stuff for the Ubuntu SErver Team so I'm fairly fluent in tha …], *just nginx
[16:02] <lubot> <tsimonq2> *shot*
[16:02] <lubot> <teward001> oh I do more packaging contribs than you realize lol
[16:02] <lubot> <teward001> my fingers just aren't everywhere unlike yours.
[16:02] <lubot> <teward001> *cough*
[16:03] <lubot> <Barika> Yeah I am not a power user and have tried in past only to completely jack my system up by installing dependent packages that then mess up other things sometimes.
[16:06] <lubot> <Barika> Looks like sid version is at one of later releases of flsmeshot.
[16:14] <lubot> <teward001> well... there's newer versions in Cosmic too
[16:14] <lubot> <teward001> but meh
[16:14] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @teward001 [well... there's newer versions in Cosmic too], *Disco
[16:15] <lubot> <teward001> @tsimonq2 you need to learn to rmadison
[16:15] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @teward001 [@tsimonq2 you need to learn to rmadison], So do you
[16:16] <lubot> <teward001> *rolls eyes, then goes back to backporting newer Wireshark things for Bionic for himself*