[00:06] <sgen> So Im trying to preseed a ubuntu 18.04 install on a virtualbox vm with packer
[00:07] <sgen> The install is hanging on choosing which disk to install to
[00:07] <sgen> Im not sure if theres a default working preseed file for 18.04. Im using one that worked for 12.04 but I suspect something may have changed
[00:07] <sgen> This is my preseed file https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kXQ6XSmKYZ/
[01:51] <Galactor> Hello! Is there an easy way to make a back-up of my current lubuntu/i3wm set-up that includes my settings and installed programs, but not my misc. files like word documents, pictures, etc?
[01:52] <Galactor> all my important documents are backed up to the cloud, but if anything ever happened and my current OS and features needed to be reinstalled, it would take me weeks. It was a huge effort to configure my machine properly due to my use of odd software, wonky drivers, personal preferences, etc.
[02:09] <rfm> Galactor, the wiki has a pretty good article on the various ways to take backups and restore from them. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[02:15] <rfm> Galactor, and the Arch wiki has a full example of using rsync (including a list of the filesystems that don't need to be backed up)  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Rsync#Full_system_backup
[02:17] <Galactor> rfm:  Thank you for the info! I'll look into it
[02:29] <ahi2> alacarte and menulibre wont allow me to make and save changes to the applications menu. any ideas?
[02:30] <ahi2> fresh install. worked fine on previous install of 18.04.1
[02:33] <texla> How to change fonts size on grub 2.02 menu in ubuntu 18.04
[02:35] <rfm> texla, pretty good answer in https://askubuntu.com/questions/54067/how-do-i-safely-change-grub2-screen-resolution
[02:38] <texla> rfm, Tried that uncommented grub-gfxmode and changed from 640x480 to 1920x1080 and ran update grub no changed in menu
[02:41] <rfm> texla, as the answer says. 16x9 modes don't seem to work.   try a 4x3?  may have to try several before you find one that works...
[02:42] <texla> rfm, Where do I find different modes
[02:44] <rfm> texla, read step 1 of the askubuntu answer, where it mentions the videoinfo command
[02:46] <texla> rfm, one commentor said when he tried videoinfo he cound not exit program ???
[02:47] <rfm> texla, so just hit the reset button, you're way early in the grub boot process
[02:48] <JFox762> How do I check to see why my Wifi Indicator has a question mark on it?
[02:48] <texla> rfm, Thanks for the info will try that program
[02:50] <JFox762> ??
[03:31] <Kremator> folks, usually how much last deprecated release mirrors online?
[03:31] <Kremator> i mean, i know 14.04 is going to be supported until april next year, for how much time it's repositories are going to be online
[03:33] <leftyfb> Kremator: I would not rely on Ubuntu 14.04 repositories being online past the EOL date
[03:35] <Kremator> leftyfb, and does nto canonical have something like "archive" repositories just as debian project?
[03:35] <Kremator> because i would probably have to downgrade to 14.04 because reasons...
[03:35] <Kremator> but it only have 6 months more of support or so
[03:35] <leftyfb> Kremator: why do you need 14.04?
[03:36] <Kremator> leftyfb, i have a mobile AMD 7520g gpu, it can only use 2 screens at the same time if i use flgrx
[03:36] <leftyfb> Kremator: have you tried 18.04?
[03:37] <Kremator> the new video open driver/stack works wonders perf wise. but since my card is not _Strictly_ supported i lack some features
[03:37] <Kremator> leftyfb, yes, same problem
[03:37] <Kremator> its not the release is just my card not being completelly fully supported anymore
[03:37] <Kremator> with flgrx works wonderful
[03:39] <leftyfb> Kremator: you tried the drivers from AMD's website?
[03:39] <Kremator> leftyfb, the flgrx is only installable in 14.04 and 15.10
[03:40] <Kremator> after that those drivers doesnt work anymore in *buntus
[03:40] <leftyfb> Kremator: drivers from AMD's website. Not flgrx. Did you try the drivers from the AMD website? It's a binary
[03:40] <Kremator> leftyfb, i though AMD didnt release "drivers" anymore but just straight worked onto the open stack
[03:43] <leftyfb> Kremator: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-prorad-lin-18-20
[03:43] <leftyfb> looks like it might not work with your chipset though
[03:43] <leftyfb> maybe time to upgrade
[03:43] <Kremator> leftyfb, too poor for that otherwise i would had upgraded long time ago
[03:44] <Kremator> and sadly, to a laptop without AMD card
[03:44] <Kremator> they basically left me out in the air too soon
[05:15] <Miar> Hey, I am having some issues having palm detect enabled while typing on my touchpad. Could someone help?
[05:19] <Rembo> how can i install openssl 1.0.0 alternativ to current version of openssl on debian 9?
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> Rembo: this is ubuntu support here
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> Rembo: whats your endgoal exactly?
[07:11] <amazoniantoad> Why would a vm just turn off after having been turned on? I keep turning on my vm's and then they seem to turn off on their own after some time.
[07:11] <amazoniantoad> Using xen
[07:20] <godmachine81> not sure if this is the place to ask a more advanced question regarding zram/swap on older systems, or would it be better asked in #kernel or #linux?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> amazoniantoad: ca you launch vm from terminal? see what errors you get?
[07:21] <godmachine81> only relevance I see to ubuntu is that the system i'm tuning is running 18.04 LTS
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> !swap | godmachine81
[07:22] <godmachine81> lol
[07:22] <godmachine81> thanks lotuspsychje i know what swap is
[07:22] <godmachine81> my question involves more in depth things like dirty pages and dirty ratios
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> godmachine81: if its related to ubuntu, just ask your question to the channel?
[07:23] <godmachine81> anyway the system is an old ibm thinkcentre (pre-lenovo) and it has 4GB ram but 3GB is usable.  The system runs flawless until it gets about 20 hours of uptime and a few FF/chrome tabs opened.  when it starts swapping the disk I/O is overwhelming
[07:24] <godmachine81> so i'm trying to tune it to optimal, as I know a lot of this swapping isn't necessary, and it often happens at times when there isn't any activity
[07:24] <amazoniantoad> lotuspsychje, I launch from terminal using virsh and it launches just fine
[07:24] <godmachine81> i've done picked through the cron jobs and scheduled tasks.  i've watched the memory consumption with top/htop.
[07:25] <godmachine81> zram seems to add a lot of improvement.  I'm seeing mixed things online about vm.swappiness=10 and vm.swappiness=100 while using zram
[07:26] <godmachine81> i know that using only zram and no disk swap is just a disaster waiting to happen when the actual physical memory is fully used.  my zram priorities are 5 and the swapfile priority is -2 which seems approrpiate
[07:27] <godmachine81> i'm curious to what a good setting for the dirty ratio settings and the swappiness is in a system like this with low memory, a hdd that's not optimal and probably just 5400rpm anyway.
[07:28] <amazoniantoad> lotuspsychje, so it just says, "booting from hard disk" and then just powers off
[07:28] <godmachine81> yea i could upgrade the hardware, but I tend to prefer to get as much use as possible out of things without forking out the $$.  this machine is about a $20 PC and it works wonderful for its purposes until the I/O issue
[07:29] <godmachine81> lotuspsychje: now see why i asked if this was the approripate chan to ask such a thing?
[07:30] <godmachine81> i know you guys are usually overwhelmed with questions by non-technical users or people completely new to computing
[07:31] <godmachine81> i've been a Linux SysAdmin for going on 20 yrs, and do a lot of devops related work.  I definitely could figure this out on my own, but I'd appreciate some pointers for anyone else that might have exerienced a similar situation on old hardware running new kernels/os
[07:41] <WoC> grub question, when using grub-mkimage, do one still have to use ins_mod for each of the embedded modules ?
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> godmachine81: do you have preload installed?
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> godmachine81: there are many tweaks you can do, to make a system go smoother overall
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> amazoniantoad: details about your installed vm?
[08:06] <godmachine81> lotuspsychje: i know how to optimize a system for smoothness but this is all pertaining to how the kernel is handling memory/cache
[08:06] <godmachine81> not sure what you are referring to as 'preload'
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | godmachine81
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> godmachine81: older machines= choose a mightweight flavor, with updated kernel
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> lightweight
[08:08] <godmachine81> i definitely don't need to preload things into memory based on what it 'thinks' i am going to do
[08:08] <godmachine81> lotuspsychje: of course, i'm running xubuntu, configured to a bare minimal resource friendly config
[08:08] <ddoobb> For regular people is the LTS or the latest vresion recommended?
[08:08] <godmachine81> and using a 4.19.4 kernel with zram
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> ddoobb: the users choice ddoobb
[08:09] <godmachine81> ddoobb: lts is recommended for people who want to install a stable system and not be nagged about updates often
[08:09] <godmachine81> LTS is good for setting 'automatic updates' to security patches only and only upgrading when a new LTS is available
[08:10] <godmachine81> regular releases are more for those who just can't go without the bleeding edge software
[08:11] <godmachine81> LTS versions of ubuntu usually have backports for the new software introduced in new releases
[08:11] <godmachine81> so unless you just want to test the overall system and contribute to development then i'd suggest a LTS release
[08:13] <godmachine81> if you plan to do dist-upgrade on a daily basis and you are OK with things being broken from time to time, then there is no benefit in using LTS.  but if you want a stable system you configure to your liking, and you don't desire unwanted change, then LTS is recommended
[08:26] <littlelisper> exit
[08:28] <Steven_M> Hi, how do I verify http://ftp.citylink.co.nz/ubuntu-releases/18.10/SHA256SUMS against http://ftp.citylink.co.nz/ubuntu-releases/18.10/SHA256SUMS.gpg?
[08:33] <Steven_M> anyone?
[08:37] <Steven_M> which key do I need to import etc?
[08:41] <shaarad> Setven_M: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSHA256SUM
[08:41] <shaarad> is that something you wanna check?
[08:47] <hexhaxtron> Hi! I just installed Ubuntu and it looks really good! However everything is very very slow. Any help with this?
[08:48] <shaarad> hexhaxtron: what's your system configuration? which version of Ubuntu did you install?
[08:50] <shaarad> you can do some basic information gathering with commands like free -m or top to see how much memory is occupied and which processes are taking the top CPU
[08:51] <Steven_M> shaarad: I know how to sha256sum the iso and check it against the hashes file, but I don't understand how to check the hashes file against its gpg sig?
[08:52] <shaarad> Steven_M: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto ?
[09:03] <Steven_M> shaarad: Thank you. :-)
[09:03] <shaarad> Steven_M: no issues! Glad o help
[09:04] <Steven_M> :)
[10:18] <boritek> hello
[10:18] <boritek> what will be the next default filesystem in ubuntu after ext4?
[10:18] <boritek> is it btrfs or xfs or something else?
[10:19] <boritek> or zfs?
[10:26] <feedbackmonitor> Hi, I am trying to partition an SSD drive I bought a couple of weeks back but gparted keeps reporting failures. Do I have ay options at this point?
[10:35] <feedbackmonitor> Why can't gparted format an ssd drive?
[10:36] <ikonia> feedbackmonitor: it can
[10:36] <feedbackmonitor> ikonia, Gparted says different
[10:36] <feedbackmonitor> Gparted says you may as well buy a Mac
[10:36] <ikonia> feedbackmonitor: I suspect that's something specific to your system
[10:36] <feedbackmonitor> Abd never ever look back
[10:37] <ikonia> feedbackmonitor: don't be silly - id didn't say that
[10:37] <feedbackmonitor> End quote
[10:37] <ikonia> feedbackmonitor: what's the real problem,
[10:37] <feedbackmonitor> gparted sucks
[10:37] <ikonia> feedbackmonitor: either state the REAL problem or please be quiet
[10:37] <ikonia> this channel isn't for messing around
[10:37] <V7> feedbackmonitor: What error do you get?
[10:37] <feedbackmonitor> I have this nextstart TX external hard drive reader, could that be the culprit, maybe you cannot format drives on those things
[10:38] <ikonia> feedbackmonitor: is the drive "seen" by the system ?
[10:38] <V7> feedbackmonitor: SD is not SSD
[10:38] <feedbackmonitor> NexStar TX
[10:39] <V7> This is a case for 2.5''
[10:39] <feedbackmonitor> Well I was formatting and then I get 'cannot complete, input/output error'
[10:39] <V7> Check dmesg
[10:39] <feedbackmonitor> I was trying to make it go ntfs
[10:39] <feedbackmonitor> I used gparted and kde partition
[10:40] <feedbackmonitor> same results, maybe if I open up my machine, yank out some drives, reboot and try to format while the stupid ssd is inside
[10:40] <ikonia> feedbackmonitor: stop with the silly comments, I won't ask again
[10:41] <V7> feedbackmonitor: Do you see the same situation w/o NextStar TX?
[10:41] <feedbackmonitor> ikonia, I am reporting what is happening
[10:41] <ikonia> feedbackmonitor: yeah, so do it without the silly comments
[10:42] <feedbackmonitor> Now gparted just scans the drives and does nothing, the scanner indicated is going left to right and back like Kit's dcanners from nightrider
[10:42] <ikonia> V7: the chipset in that caddy looks very questionable
[10:42] <feedbackmonitor> I think Ubuntu does not like the external hard drive reader
[10:42] <ikonia> V7: I suspect it's probably not got solid suport and is resetting
[10:42] <feedbackmonitor> Normally I am able to format a drive with ease
[10:42] <V7> ikonia: Probably
[10:43] <ikonia> V7: it's nothing well supported like the oxford chipset, looks like it's some questionable chipset, with various comments about it
[10:43] <V7> feedbackmonitor: Try with conneting this SSD directly
[10:43] <feedbackmonitor> V7, Yeah, I am going to kick my mobo rip out some drives and then shove that ssd in and reboot
[10:44] <ikonia> feedbackmonitor: pretty sure you're not going to do any of that
[10:44] <feedbackmonitor> It's almost 6 am and I have spent too much time with this
[10:44] <nekowaiidesu> hi all.. last night i was playing SWAT4 with PlayOnLinux. game crashed and i had to hard reset. now when i boot, the machine gets to login screeb and my fans just start spinning like mad. dont think i ever heard them rev this fast
[10:44] <feedbackmonitor> Hulk smash
[10:44] <nekowaiidesu> xubuntu 18.04
[10:44] <ikonia> feedbackmonitor: do you mean "I'm going to take the disk out of the caddy and put it in the machine directly"
[10:45] <nekowaiidesu> any ideas? i dont have adsl, and very limited mobile data (how im here) - so i cant spend a load of time searching the web for solutions
[10:45] <V7> feedbackmonitor: Next time, please, take a time and remove any unsupported/unknown/strange hardware and try making it as usual before attempting try new features
[10:45] <ikonia> nekowaiidesu: can you login ?
[10:46] <nekowaiidesu> yes i can login normally. its just unsettling with my fans sounding like a 747
[10:46] <ikonia> nekowaiidesu: it may just be writing crash dumps from the previous hard reset
[10:46] <ikonia> nekowaiidesu: check the temperatures and give it a short while to calm down
[10:46] <ikonia> nekowaiidesu: you also maybe having a hardware failure
[10:47] <nekowaiidesu> i was worried about gpu failing too, but it seemed to be okay on my live boot xububtu
[10:47] <nekowaiidesu> so i figured its more likely some kind of playonlinux/ubuntu/swat4 catastrophe
[10:48] <ikonia> nekowaiidesu: try booting into safe mode
[10:50] <nekowaiidesu> im goinf to give it a few minutes to spin. sadly its a pretty fresh install so i dont have much software
[10:51] <nekowaiidesu> my CPU is idling at like 1% .. dont know how to see gpu temps and stats
[11:03] <nekowaiidesu> sorry for false alarm - it seems to be fixed after reseating gpu . think i am in denial that its my hardware :")
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> boritek: whats your purpose exactly
[11:46] <kreyren> fresh installation of ubuntu, USB headset (G533 logitech) not working, can you provide more info?
[11:46] <kreyren> resp. not detected in pavucontroll in ubuntu's settings
[11:48] <kreyren> anyone here?
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: could you pastebin the output of: tail -f /var/log/syslog after plugin your headset
[11:48] <tchakatak> mhh
[11:49] <tchakatak> are you using the proprietary dongle ?
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: your ubuntu version and kernel version would also be handy
[11:50] <kreyren> ok one moment
[11:51] <kreyren> https://pastebin.com/Qz7P6tNn tail -f /var/log/syslog
[11:51] <kreyren> its ubuntu 18.10 using 4.15.0-39-generic
[11:52] <kreyren> upgraded from 16.04 since 18.04.1 and 18.10 are corrupted from source on squashfs (tested on two devices)
[11:52] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:52] <Apachez> anyone else noticed that the lockscreen in ubuntu 18.10 has a flaw where the desktop screen will be visible before you type in the password?
[11:52] <tchakatak> Apachez: depend witch de you use.
[11:53] <Apachez> de ?
[11:53] <tchakatak> and how it is configured
[11:53] <tchakatak> Desktop Environment
[11:53] <Apachez> using the default one
[11:53] <Apachez> unity went missing in 18.04
[11:53] <blackflow> Apachez: yea, I've noticed it on 18.04 even
[11:53] <Apachez> so its gnome or whatever default it is
[11:53] <Apachez> might add that this is an upgraded installation since ehh 16.04 or so
[11:54] <Apachez> so 16.04 -> 16.10 -> 17.04 -> 17.10 -> 18.04 -> and now 18.10
[11:54] <XATRIX> Hi guys, can you advice ? I'm trying to upgrade my xenial to bionic
[11:54] <XATRIX> But i always have the same error during do-release-upgrade
[11:55] <XATRIX> https://pastebin.com/ZcV7n1Kr
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: your kernel doesnt look right for cosmic
 meaning?
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: it should be  4.18.0.11.12
[11:55] <XATRIX> what's wrong with my setup
[11:55] <kreyren> ok trying to update
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: .39 kernel is for bionic
[11:55] <ni1s> Is it possible to create a "meta" package or set where I can specify  multiple *-dev packages for easy install or removal
 using Ukuu to update the kernel is sane?
[11:56] <ni1s> iirc gentoo had "sets" where you could specify packages if you needed
[11:56] <kreyren> meaning https://github.com/teejee2008/ukuu
[11:56] <blackflow> ni1s: sure, it's possible to build your own meta package that pulls in whatever you want as a dependency
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: for git issues, contact the git maintainer, thats something ubuntu cant be responsible of
 i'm asking what the recommended way to update the ubuntu kernel?
[11:58] <blackflow> apt upgrade
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: i never said update the kernel, i said your kernel seems not correct for cosmic
[11:58] <tchakatak> kermyt: you want to upgrade or you want a custom one ?
 my fault then, what do you recommend?
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: well first we need to investigate why your cosmic has bionic kernel?
[11:59] <tchakatak> kreyren: did you use Ukuu ?
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | XATRIX
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: also, try to disable ppa's before the upgrade process
[12:01] <XATRIX> lotuspsychje: sure, i disabled all ppa's before i started. but still get error. you can see it in the pastie
[12:01] <kreyren> No i had issues with ISO of ubuntu 18.04.1 and 18.10 (results in squashfs error from ubuntu source on two different devices) so i installed 16.04 and updated it on 18.10 using do-release-upgrade to 18.04.1 and then again on 18.10 with changes /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:02] <tchakatak> kreyren: why would you do that like this ? what kind of issue did you had ?
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: yes, im seeing compare issues xenial kernel vs xenial HWE in your logs
[12:02] <tchakatak> btw there is a bug with the new kernel (4.19) and ext4
[12:02] <kreyren> tchakatak: SQUASHFS error it woudn't load the installer
[12:03] <XATRIX> lotuspsychje: sorry, what should i do ?
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: could you pastebin: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade first please?
[12:03] <tchakatak> kreyren: did you check the install media ?
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: lets see if apt complains about something first
[12:03] <tchakatak> Oo
[12:04] <XATRIX> lotuspsychje: yeap, check it pls, https://pastebin.com/pZYDpKiA
[12:04] <kreyren> tchakatak: yes i've used NTFS and EXT4 and redownloaded the iso multiple times.
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: uname -a also please?
[12:05] <tchakatak> first did you try to update to the latest state of your 16.04 ?
[12:05] <kreyren> tchakatak: yes using apt update, upgrade and dist-upgrade
[12:06] <XATRIX> lotuspsychje: Linux SYSADMIN-NB 4.4.0-139-generic #165-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 24 10:58:50 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:06] <kreyren> tchakatak: same on 18.04.1
[12:06] <kreyren> prior to invoking do-release-upgrade
[12:06] <XATRIX> lotuspsychje: i wonder, what causes apt, think it should remove update-manager O_O
[12:06] <tchakatak> can i have the exact error ?
[12:07] <kreyren> tchakatak: i try to reproduce sec
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: yes thats weird, just noticing in your logs
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: maybe before lts upgrade, try moving towards HWE kernel?
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> !hwe | XATRIX
[12:08] <kreyren> tchakatak: i dont have the old iso so i try to redownload it
[12:08] <tchakatak> kreyren: no problem :)
[12:08] <kreyren> (old meaning downloaded today, but removed due mensioned issue)
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: im also unsure why system says this: 2018-12-01 14:53:21,712 DEBUG Comparing 4.4.0-139 with 4.15.0-39
[12:09] <XATRIX> no idea
[12:09] <XATRIX> i had ukuu kernel 4.19 installed before
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> uh
[12:09] <XATRIX> I removed, and got back to original
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: something must have scrambled things..
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: try to move to 4.15 xenial HWE kernel
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: after that try update-manager -c
[12:11] <XATRIX> do i have to remove 4.4 kernel before ?
[12:11] <ntd> no
[12:11] <XATRIX> alright
[12:11] <tchakatak> kreyren: where come from the iso ?
[12:12] <kreyren> tchakatak: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/513033574337740831/518398835559497738/DSC_0243.jpg?width=445&height=594
[12:12] <tchakatak> kreyren: Official website ?
[12:12] <kreyren> tchakatak: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/513033574337740831/518398835559497739/DSC_0242.jpg?width=709&height=532
[12:12] <kreyren> yes
[12:12] <tchakatak> kreyren: it look likes a problem with your media
[12:12] <kreyren> also this ISO was downloaded using UPC mirror in czech republic
[12:13] <kreyren> trying other media now
[12:13] <tchakatak> kreyren: i really think it come from the USB
[12:13] <tchakatak> device
[12:13] <kreyren> tchakatak: used this device no issues for other linux distros.
[12:14] <V7> 12:17 AM How's this possible? Isn't this 00:17 PM?
[12:14] <kreyren> meaning gentoo, argent and systemrescuecd
[12:14] <V7> tchakatak: Hey there :)
[12:15] <tchakatak> V7: Hey :)
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: another idea would be, trying a liveusb to test your headset usb, see if it works from there
[12:15] <kreyren> USB headset worked today on argent linux (30 mins ago)
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: wich kernel was that?
[12:15] <kreyren> i have custom kernel on argent linux
[12:15] <XATRIX> ok, let's see
[12:15] <V7> Got BMC password hashes, our manager didn't give us any credentials documnet because he's hadn't arrived today ...
[12:15] <kreyren> based on 4.18.65 i think
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: id reccomend trying this on ubuntu LTS, then start testing other kernels
[12:16] <tchakatak> V7: Enjoy
[12:16] <V7> If someone could help :D ADMIN:$rakp$7f53b9ef19000000734397720626e8999871cd0847e45c4f0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000140541444d494e$b1bb7f7c2f5d17ca2f7ba016c461174f1701afb2
[12:17] <XATRIX> lotuspsychje: the same crap...
[12:17] <V7> This's already not funny, but ..
[12:17] <tchakatak> kreyren: i could reproduce the same kind of error than you while removing the usb device
[12:17] <XATRIX> https://pastebin.com/nvyDJDdm
[12:18] <kreyren> tchakatak: So its confirmed?
[12:18] <tchakatak> i really think its your media
[12:18] <tchakatak> not the iso itself
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: you are booted into .39 kernel now?
[12:18] <XATRIX> yeap
[12:19] <kreyren> tchakatak: i try to verify and file a bug report if present then
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: can you pastebin us your sources.list too please?
[12:19] <kreyren> tchakatak: updating the kernel should fix the issue with headset?
[12:19] <TJ-> XATRIX: what is "ubuntu.org.ua" - that name doesn't resolve for me, and it is NOT an authorised mirror of the ubuntu archives eeither
[12:20] <XATRIX> https://pastebin.com/GmVn3YBv
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: see what TJ- adviced
[12:20] <XATRIX> TJ it's about the fastest mirro which i try to connect from my current location
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> !sources | XATRIX try revert to the orirignal xenial ones
[12:21] <XATRIX> alright i'll try
[12:21] <tchakatak> kreyren: why do you want to have a kernel updated and not the full distrib ?
[12:22] <kreyren> tchakatak: meaning? it seems to be 18.10 with wrong kernel
[12:22] <TJ-> XATRIX: there is a problem though, since DNS cannot resolved "ubuntu.org.ua"
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> tchakatak: he has like the bionic kernel, on cosmic
[12:22] <tchakatak> kreyren: ok. lets comeback from the begining in this things. you want to upgrade to 18.10 right ? and you have a sqashfs problem
[12:22] <tchakatak> lotuspsychje: then ukuu
[12:23] <tchakatak> but it will not work
[12:23] <tchakatak> tryed it. way too much problems
[12:23] <XATRIX> TJ-: i can
[12:23] <kreyren> tchakatak: now i'm already on 18.04 i've used 16.04 and upgraded it due the issue with SQUASHFS on 18.04.1 and 18.10
[12:23] <XATRIX> TJ-: 64 bytes from mirror.mirohost.net (89.184.72.161): icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=43.7 ms
[12:23] <tchakatak> kreyren: if you want a custom kernel , use UKUU and install the latest one, but they are NOT supported.
[12:23] <kreyren> *no
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: lsb_release -a ?
[12:23] <TJ-> XATRIX: must be something weird going on with DNS in Ukraine then
[12:24] <tchakatak> 18.04 on 4.19 is broken.
[12:24] <kreyren> lotuspsychje: outputs 18.10 cosmic
[12:24] <XATRIX> TJ-: seems, like. BTW i switch to the main one mirror
[12:24] <tchakatak> so kreyren your on 18.10
[12:25] <kreyren> tchakatak: i believe so, but as i said the issue is with USB headset not detected in ubuntu (G533 logitech)
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: you might wanna report this .ua problem to #ubuntu-mirrors too perhaps
[12:25] <TJ-> XATRIX: The reason I mentioned it was in case you've been affected by a man-in-the-middle attack
[12:25] <XATRIX> the same error i have still
[12:25] <tchakatak> kreyren: can you please put the dongle and give us the result of tail /var/log/syslog ?
[12:26] <kreyren> tchakatak: https://pastebin.com/Qz7P6tNn
[12:26] <XATRIX> my apt still wants to remove update manager during upgrade
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: apt update after your sources.list fix
[12:27] <kreyren> tchakatak: is it sufficient?
[12:28] <tchakatak> kreyren: i look at it
[12:30] <TJ-> kreyren: tchakatak wanted a NEW tail, not the one you posted 1/2 hour ago
[12:30] <tchakatak> kreyren: can you paste the result of dmesg | grep usb
[12:30] <XATRIX> lotuspsychje: yea, but i think it does the same during upgrade procedure
[12:30] <tchakatak> and yes, a NEW tail -_-
[12:30] <kreyren> tchakatak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B728RyJ35C/
[12:30] <dedze> Hi, is this good configuration for UFW? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/whhcdhW5xT/
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: an idea perhaps: try to remove update-manager and reinstall?
[12:31] <kreyren> tchakatak: new tail https://pastebin.com/aBp6461Z
[12:32] <kreyren> tchakatak: invoked tail.. pugged-in USB reciever waited for 30 sec and CTRL+C
[12:32] <tchakatak> ok
[12:32] <XATRIX> lotuspsychje: yea, i did it. still no go
[12:32] <tchakatak> kreyren: not like this
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> dedze: perhaps the #netfilter guys might help you on that
[12:33] <kreyren> tchakatak: how then?
[12:33] <dedze> Thank you
[12:33] <tchakatak> let me check the dmesg first and i tell you how to
[12:33] <kreyren> ok
[12:33] <kreyren> thanks btw
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: did you chnage your sources to another country?
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: .us for example
[12:35] <TJ-> tchakatak: are we expecting a USB storage device, or did I miss something?
[12:35] <tchakatak> TJ-: its the avnera AV6201
[12:35] <XATRIX> lotuspsychje: yea, i set to Main. http://i.imgur.com/9X11eDz.png
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: its a logitech headset usb
[12:35] <tchakatak> we are expecting a sound device
[12:35] <kreyren> tchakatak: Avnera AV6201 seems to be the reciever that is used for G533 headset
[12:35] <TJ-> tchakatak: OK, I got confused with someone else's issue then!!
[12:36] <tchakatak> kreyren: i know
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: ok and you did sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade after?
[12:36] <XATRIX> sutr
[12:36] <XATRIX> sure
[12:36] <TJ-> tchakatak: the issue looks to be that there is no device driver that recognises that device, so I'd first recommend "pastebinit <( lsusb -v )" to determine what the device endpoints are
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: come join in #ubuntu-mirrors please?
[12:37] <tchakatak> TJ-: i'm trying to fine a driver for him online
[12:37] <limbo_> My machine won't boot. Starts up to a black screen, can't even get into grub options by holding down shift. Earlier, I could get it to boot by selecting an old kernel, but whenever I'd log into my desktop the session crashed and booted me back to the login screen.
[12:38] <limbo_> Any ideas? I'm downloading a 18.10 iso to put on a usb stick now.
[12:38] <kreyren> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NMC7JMZg9X/
[12:38] <tchakatak> limbo_: version ?
[12:38] <TJ-> tchakatak: there is no linux driver for 170D:0100 in the kernel, up to 4.19, that claims that as a modalias
[12:38] <tchakatak> 4.19 is already in the repo in ubuntu ?
[12:38] <kreyren> if it's relevant it worked on older version, but i dont remember the kernel
[12:38] <kreyren> 4.19 is in UKuu
[12:39] <limbo_> tchakatak: 18.10
[12:39] <kreyren> (sorry if im annoying)
[12:39] <tchakatak> kreyren: i know its in ukuu
[12:39] <kreyren> ok ok sorry
[12:39] <tchakatak> but everything in ukuu is not in official
[12:40] <kreyren> is that a problem?
[12:40] <tchakatak> but yes you can try 4.19.4
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: your graphics card chipset please?
[12:40] <kreyren> 4.19.4 in Ukuu?
[12:40] <tchakatak> kreyren: well you can have instabillity, incompatibility...etc
[12:40] <tchakatak> kreyren:
[12:40] <tchakatak> yes
[12:40] <TJ-> tchakatak: no, I'm just pointing out even mainline kernel doesn't have that device claimed as a modalias for any driver
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> hey ioria
[12:41] <kreyren> or is there something like .config and recompiling the kernel?
[12:41] <ioria> lotuspsychje, hi lotus, how are you doing ?
[12:41] <tchakatak> kreyren: you dont need to do anything with ukuu
[12:41] <TJ-> kreyren: did you install some out-of-tree driver yourself for that device?
[12:41] <kreyren> TJ-: no this is fresh installation
[12:41] <tchakatak> TJ-: he is on a fresh install
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> ioria: a braincracker for you lol: XATRIX tryes LTS upgrade https://pastebin.com/nvyDJDdm we tryed sources move to .us and move to HWE, but no dice
[12:41] <limbo_> lotuspsychje: When I was able to boot to the login screen, I was running a 1070 over hdmi. then I only got blackscreens after a few reboots, so I removed the card and am using 7700k iGPU.
[12:42] <tchakatak> limbo_: did you just upgrade the kernel ?
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: to bypass black boots on GTX cards try !nomodeset
[12:42] <TJ-> kreyren: the other thing I'm suspicious of is the lsusb report for that device looks to me to be incomplete... as if the device isn't fully reporting its capabilities. Does it by chance have some kind of standby/low power button on it?
[12:43] <kreyren> TJ-: there seems to be a button on it, but i'm not sure if its even functional.. seems to be cosmetic or covering unwanted feature
[12:43] <ioria> lotuspsychje, a borked upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 ?
[12:43] <kreyren> 4.19.4 installed restarting
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> ioria: he cant upgrade yet
[12:44] <ioria> lotuspsychje, i see
[12:44] <blackflow> kreyren: don't use 4.19 yet, it has that nasty ext4 corruption bug
[12:44] <ioria> XATRIX, what happens when you try to run do-release-upgrade from terminal ?
[12:44] <limbo_> tchakatak: yes. But only due to regular system updates. Is there an issue with recent kernels? (I forgot to mention, I had better luck booting to login scren by using an older kernel)
[12:45] <limbo_> lotuspsychje: I was going to try that, if I could get into grub again.
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> ioria TJ- XATRIX the #ubuntu-mirrors confirmed its not a source issue neither, rather upgrade bug
[12:45] <ioria> ah
[12:46] <XATRIX> ioria: most of time, i do release-upgrade from CLI
[12:46] <ioria> XATRIX, yes... and ?
[12:46] <tchakatak> limbo_: yes.. there is something about kernel crash when ext4 old version is migrated to new one
[12:46] <tchakatak> this bug is in 4.19
[12:46] <kreyren> using 4.19.4-041904-generic didn't resolve the issue
[12:47] <kreyren> USB reciever is still not present in ubuntu settings nor usable
[12:47] <tchakatak> kreyren: just to be sure, what does says pulseaudio ?
[12:47] <kreyren> tchakatak: in ubuntu settings it detected TV reproductors
[12:48] <tchakatak> kreyren: can you please take a look at pulseaudio (like pavucontrol) and see if the usb device is not just mute ?
[12:48] <kreyren> checking
[12:48] <kreyren> apting pavucontrol
[12:48] <kreyren> tchakatak: device is not present in pavucontrol
[12:49] <tchakatak> no more idea.. TJ- ?
[12:49] <limbo_> tchakatak: Any idea how to check if that affects me?
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: try your device in 18.04.1 LTS live
[12:49] <tchakatak> limbo_: so far i just heard of this problem, take a bit a look on the web
[12:49] <TJ-> kreyren: tchakatak the 'lsusb' shows the device reports the interface device class 3 (HID) but USB AUdio Class is 1 .... that explains the problem. I don't know why the device is doing that though
 How do i downgrade? changing /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:50] <TJ-> tchakatak: the only thing I can imagine is the device needs some kind of usb_modeswitch
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: kernel switching isnt done with editing sources
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | kreyren
[12:51] <TJ-> tchakatak: kreyren as in line 33 of the pastebin, "bInterfaceClass         3 Human Interface Device"
[12:51] <XATRIX> ioria: https://pastebin.com/SWj39QTg
[12:51] <tchakatak> TJ-:  ok
[12:51] <kreyren> lotuspsychje: so changing /etc/apt/sources.list and using previous kernel?
[12:52] <tchakatak> TJ-: just found this https://github.com/pwr/Solaar
[12:52] <limbo_> tchakatak: That's super hard to do when I don't have a working computer.
[12:52] <TJ-> kreyren: tchakatak this looks related: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3282479/razer-mano-war-usb-dongle-problem.html
[12:53] <ioria> XATRIX, do you have some packages pinned ?
[12:54] <tchakatak> TJ-: found something about unifying reciver
[12:54] <TJ-> kreyren: tchakatak also this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/LogitechG/comments/48jdzt/trying_to_return_broken_logitech_g933_seems_like/
[12:54] <XATRIX> ioria: i have no idea :(
[12:54] <kreyren> TJ-: in gentoo it worked using `CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO` isn't there some alternative to it on ubuntu?
[12:56] <Lantizia> OK quick game of... "guess which component in Ubuntu has the bug"... I pop a DVD-ROM disc in the drive and get this... https://i.snag.gy/vt86RQ.jpg
[12:56] <ioria> XATRIX,  that is the tail of main.log, OK, but i asked you what happens when you run again do-release-upgrade cmd ....
[12:56] <Lantizia> I get the same on the command line... https://i.snag.gy/XHGV96.jpg
[12:56] <Lantizia> Unless I specify the type (which you'd think it could autodetect)... https://i.snag.gy/wJlnr9.jpg
[12:56] <TJ-> kreyren: that option is already enabled
[12:57] <XATRIX> ioria: i did it one more time, and the paste of the main log, is the latest one
[12:57] <XATRIX> or do i misundestand you ?
[12:57] <TJ-> kreyren: you can check with "grep CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO /boot/config-$(uname -r)"
[12:57] <V7> Can we suggest password's lengths by looking at haschat/johntheripper hashfiles? For example admin's password is longer than ADMIN's, right? https://hastebin.com/ocoduqexub.bash
[12:58] <tchakatak> sorry, needed to reboot
[12:58] <kreyren> TJ-: CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO=m
[12:58] <kreyren> set it to included mby?
[12:58] <ioria> XATRIX,  run ' do-release-upgrade'   and paste the error  you got
[12:58] <XATRIX> ok
[12:59] <TJ-> kreyren: try "sudo modprobe snd-usb-audio"
[12:59] <Dreaman> XATRIX:  se the setting remova only stable
[12:59] <BluesKaj> sometimes snd_usb_audio is listed as "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, hence it's blocked
[12:59] <XATRIX> https://pastebin.com/jaqMkRaZ
[12:59] <Dreaman> all
[12:59] <XATRIX> ioria:
[12:59] <Dreaman> set
[13:00] <TJ-> kreyren: is it loaded? "lsmod | grep snd-usb-audio"
[13:00] <kreyren> sudo modprobe snd-usb-audio outputs nothing
[13:00] <kreyren> lsmod | grep snd-usb-audio
[13:00] <TJ-> kreyren: *nix command don't unless there is a problem
[13:00] <ioria> XATRIX,  ppa, external sources, or pinned packages
[13:00] <kreyren> outputs also nothing
[13:00] <BluesKaj> kreyren, then it's loaded
[13:00] <kreyren> ok
[13:01] <XATRIX> ioria: nothing enabled. bu ti don't know about pinned packeges, how can i check it out ?
[13:01] <TJ-> kreyren: OK, so the module isn't loaded
[13:01] <kreyren> i just remembered i think i was able to change the volume using headset on 18.04.1
[13:01] <ioria> XATRIX,   paste  sudo apt-get update
[13:02] <BluesKaj> kreyren, but it might be at -2 so that means it's bypassed
[13:02] <kreyren> -2 meaning?
[13:02] <XATRIX> ioria: https://pastebin.com/StfLpKzq
[13:02] <TJ-> kreyren: aha, the underscore is needed! "lsmod | grep snd_usb_audio" will show it loaded I bet
[13:03] <kreyren> btw. i can't change the volume using headset now so it was probably detected on 18.04.1 in theory downgrading the alsa+pulseaudio?
[13:03] <TJ-> BluesKaj: no -2 just prevents the device being the default device
[13:03] <BluesKaj> minus 2  means  it's a negative it has to 0 or plus 1,2 etc
[13:03] <BluesKaj> be
[13:03] <ioria> XATRIX,   cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:03] <kreyren> https://pastebin.com/m2QuWp07 TJ-
[13:04] <kreyren> let me try to change the /etc/apt/sources.list from cosmic on bionic to test it
[13:04] <kreyren> or you have other ideas?
[13:05] <XATRIX> ioria: http://paste.debian.net/1053966/
[13:05] <BluesKaj> TJ-, I ran 2 audio cards for a while , Card 0 and card +1 and both worked as options
[13:05] <ioria> XATRIX,   why do you have this : deb http://archive.canonical.com/ precise partner
[13:06] <XATRIX> ioria: no idea
[13:06] <ioria> XATRIX,   try to remember,please
[13:06] <XATRIX> possilby i did upgrade from the precise in past
[13:06] <ioria> XATRIX,   apt-cache policy
[13:07] <TJ-> BluesKaj: the point is though, the /device/ is not presenting as a USB Audio Class so the driver won't bind to it anyhow
[13:08] <XATRIX> ioria: http://paste.debian.net/1053967/
[13:09] <BluesKaj> TJ-, I had to choose which option in the player, VLC/Audio/Audio device
[13:10] <BluesKaj> TJ-, so it's not showing up at all
[13:10] <TJ-> kreyren: tchakatak: BluesKaj: there is no audio software device node being created, because the USB so-called unifying receiver has dropped into a failure mode (there are massive numbers of these reports affecting these devices; usually it required a firmware upgrade or more to fix)
[13:10] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:11] <kreyren> TJ- reciever worked few mins ago i believe that its unlikely
[13:11] <BluesKaj> bloody usb audio, what a pita
[13:12] <kreyren> how do i downgrade on 18.04.1 ? https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-downgrade-ubuntu-linux-system-to-its-previous-version results in https://pastebin.com/dDWJz1Yu
[13:12] <ioria> XATRIX,   do you have a /etc/apt/preferences   file?
[13:13] <BluesKaj> audio on linux is a dog's breakfast at the best of times
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> heh
[13:13] <XATRIX> ioria: no
[13:13] <XATRIX> only preferenced.d folder, but it's empty
[13:14] <BluesKaj> kreyren, what about pavucontrol , is it listed there?
[13:14] <XATRIX> ioria: i have much ppa's in sources.list.d folder, but it's disabled
[13:14] <kreyren> its not listed in pavucontrol
[13:14] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:14] <TJ-> kreyren: the evidence is in front of you; the device IS NOT presenting a USB Audio Class
[13:15] <kreyren> TJ-: let me try it on argent linux then, rebooting
[13:15] <TJ-> kreyren: here's a datasheet for the averna chipset in it: https://fccid.io/X5B-PL051014T/User-Manual/Datasheet-2399158
[13:15] <ioria> XATRIX,  usually, i purge them with ppa-purge , but i think there is also a problem with unsupported packages from the precise repository
[13:15] <XATRIX> ioria: but how to find em
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: its hard to know what you did to your system before
[13:16] <ioria> XATRIX,  with aptitude
[13:17] <XATRIX> yea, i understand
[13:18] <XATRIX> maybe i can give a temaviewer if you have some time ? i'm totally stucked in this
[13:19] <ioria> XATRIX,  aptitude search ~i -F "%s# %p"
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> ioria: if that can help, he also played with ukuu, kernels switching
[13:20] <ioria> lotuspsychje, why ?
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> not sure
[13:20] <limbo_> I ran boot-repair, and now I can get a TTY shell on the machine by opening TTY2. the GUI still won't start though. Also, every time I switch back to TTY1, it's just a single cursor in the top right, that's frozen for a minute or two. (while frozen, I can't switch back to tty2)
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> ukuu says more easy switching kernels?
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: did you try to get in with !nomodeset?
[13:22] <limbo_> lotuspsychje: not yet, couldn't get into grub menu.
[13:22] <ioria> XATRIX,  also this:  grep Package /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-amd64_Packages
[13:22] <limbo_> lotuspsychje: just tried booting again, but there was no reacction to me holding down shift.
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: how about ESC
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: you dualboot or singleboot ubuntu?
[13:24] <limbo_> ok, that works, but I think I held it too long, and now I'm at a "grub>" prompt
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: good!
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | limbo_
[13:24] <limbo_> single boot, sepaerate drive for /home/
[13:24] <XATRIX> ioria: i have no such... maybe i can provide teamviewer, if you have a time ?
[13:24] <ioria> XATRIX,  grep Package /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-amd64_Packages
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: great, after entering your system with nomodeset try to install the nvidia driver
[13:25] <XATRIX> ioria: grep: /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-amd64_Packages: No such file or directory
[13:25] <ioria> XATRIX,  paste  /var/lib/apt/lists/
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: teamviewer & sharing su might not be the best idea on irc
[13:26] <limbo_> lotuspsychje: I have removed my 1070 and am currently using my iGPU. You think this would be easier with the card in?
[13:26] <XATRIX> lotuspsychje: i can do it via PM
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: yes, put back your gtx in, otherwise its a waste of your big card right
[13:26] <limbo_> also, how do I get from a grub> shell thing to the menu?
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> !pm | XATRIX
[13:26] <XATRIX> ioria: http://paste.debian.net/1053969/
[13:27] <XATRIX> lotuspsychje: yea, i understand
[13:27] <ioria> XATRIX,  grep Package archive.canonical.com_dists_precise_partner_binary-amd64_Packages
[13:27] <ioria> XATRIX,  you have that file
[13:27] <XATRIX> http://paste.debian.net/1053970/
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: we have a lot of users with good experiences with the ubuntu graphics drivers ppa on gtx cards
[13:28] <ioria> XATRIX,  check if you have one of those installed
[13:29] <XATRIX> ioria: at least i have skype installed. it is in this list
[13:31] <Kreyren> TJ- headset it working on argent Linux so I suspect bug in 18.10
[13:31] <Kreyren> Loading backup ATM since Ubuntu corrupted argent (causing freezes)
[13:32] <ioria> XATRIX,  nope, then you need to run apt-cache policy on that pkg and be sure it's from xenial and not from precise
[13:32] <TJ-> Kreyren: then there must be something in argent enabling the USB audio class. did you collect the lsusb output from it so we can compare?
[13:33] <XATRIX> ioria: http://paste.debian.net/1053973/ seems it's like from precise
[13:33] <Kreyren> TJ- Will provide after a backup is finished.
[13:33] <ioria> XATRIX,  very good, go on
[13:34] <XATRIX> ioria: simply remove it ?
[13:34] <ioria> XATRIX,  no, sy, it's not installed
[13:34] <XATRIX> skype-bin:i386					deinstall
[13:34] <XATRIX> skypeforlinux					install
[13:34] <XATRIX> dpkg get selections says
[13:35] <ioria> XATRIX,   it's not installed
[13:37] <ioria> XATRIX,  try this :   grep Package archive.canonical.com_dists_precise_partner_binary-amd64_Packages | awk '{print $2}' | xargs dpkg -l
[13:38] <XATRIX> ioria: http://paste.debian.net/1053976/
[13:41] <ioria> XATRIX,  try this :   grep Package archive.canonical.com_dists_precise_partner_binary-i386_Packages | awk '{print $2}' | xargs dpkg -l
[13:41] <XATRIX> http://paste.debian.net/1053977/
[13:42] <limbo_> lotuspsychje: how do I stop the grub menu thing from dropping to that minimal bash shell thing when I hold esc?
[13:42] <ioria> XATRIX,  apt-cache policy  acroread-bin:i386
[13:43] <XATRIX> yes, it's from precise
[13:43] <XATRIX> and installed
[13:43] <limbo_> Seems like hitting esc makes it appear, and also makes it disapear and enter a shell-like environment in grub.
[13:44] <ioria> XATRIX,  this is an example, but might be the case with others : i suggest you remove/purge all of them
[13:49] <XATRIX> nothing changed
[13:49] <XATRIX> i removed all 'evil' packages
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: is there anything you recall from the past you should tell us?
[13:50] <XATRIX> but still the same error duing do-release-upgrade
[13:51] <XATRIX> lotuspsychje: no idea, it was an update from precise -> xinial. i tried different kernels, i tried beta graphic drivers + beta xservers
[13:51] <ioria> XATRIX,  you can't upgrade precise to xenial
[13:51] <ioria> XATRIX,  there is trusty in the middle
[13:52] <XATRIX> yea, maybe i mistake
[13:52] <XATRIX> i remember i did an upgrade befoe
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: maybe an apt autoremove, kernel cleanup and bleachbit can clean your system?
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> !kernelcleanup | XATRIX
[13:52] <ioria> XATRIX,  purge the ppa, commnet the precise source in sources.list
[13:53] <ioria> *comment
[13:53] <XATRIX> yea
[13:53] <XATRIX> how can i find all packages from ppa ?
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: normally we cleanout the ppa's with ppa-purge to disable the ppa's AND the packages that come with it
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: on this condition, the user recalls his ppa url's
[14:02] <limbo_> running " grep -RoPish 'ppa.launchpad.net/[^/]+/[^/ ]+' /etc/apt | sort -u | sed -r '''s/\.[^/]+\//:/''' " lists ones on your system. I've got that aliased to apt-list-ppas.
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: try bleachbit
[14:07] <XATRIX> done bleachbit
[14:07] <XATRIX> still no go
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: then consider a clean install 18.04
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: you can save your /home from the setup or back in front
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> *backup
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> XATRIX: if your system borks before upgrade, its not a good base to proceed agree?
[14:08] <limbo_> lotuspsychje: ok, managed to boot with nomodeset. (could also get into desktop) The section under software and updates says I have the proietary nvidia driver installed. (nvidia-driver-390 (propietary, tested))
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: for your card, i would test a 396 from the ubuntu graphics ppa
[14:09] <XATRIX> i have tons of software setup before. i have to resetup and reconfigure too much
[14:10] <limbo_> ppa URL?
[14:12] <limbo_> ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ?
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: yes
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[14:14] <kreyren> Can anyone download Ubuntu 18.10 or 18.04.1 and try to boot it? Just to confirm that it's corrupted as I claimed ?
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: you can also try the 410 version
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: its not corrupted
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: iso's get verrified before
[14:15] <limbo_> kreyren: I booted the 18.10 release from the downloads page from USB about an hour ago, worked fine for me.
[14:15] <kreyren> lotuspsychje tried 4 medias now all results in squasfs error all the time on two different PCs
[14:15] <kreyren> limbo_ interesting thanks for info
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: your software to create the usb?
[14:16] <kreyren> Drivedroid, gparted and extracting the content of the Ubuntu ISO on it.
[14:17] <kreyren> Tried NTFS and EXT4 as filesystems
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: try the ubuntu disc creator tool
[14:17] <kreyren> Also same method worked for Debian, arch, Gentoo and argent..
[14:17] <blackflow> kreyren: wait, "extracting the content of the Ubuntu ISO" does not sound correct
[14:18] <limbo_> kreyren: try imaging the iso onto the USB drive. usin dd, gnome-disks, etc..
[14:18] <blackflow> the ISO is an image that you byte-for-byte apply to the USB drive
[14:18] <kreyren> blackflow: that's practically what ISO creators are doing.. what is the recommended approach?
[14:18] <limbo_> kreyren: restore the disk image as-is onto a usb drive.
[14:19] <kreyren> limbo_ can you give me your checksum of ISO you used?
[14:19] <blackflow> kreyren: from windows? I'd use windd. I have no idea what those "ISO creators" do. For windows ISOs, for example, it's NOT byte-for-byte image, at least it wasnt' pre-win10
[14:20] <kreyren> blackflow no from argent or systemrescuecd I meant general like ubuntu disk creator tools etc .
[14:21] <limbo_> kreyren: 818affdaea8d38bbbe620009bfa788a7cbc583c7c61c2d278f61dd3c43e030a0  Downloads/ubuntu-18.10-desktop-amd64.iso from sha256sum
[14:21] <blackflow> kreyren: just saying that "extracting ISO content" sounds wrong. one shouldn't be concerned with the content of the ISO file. just apply it byte-for-byte from offset 0 of the USB device, ie dd
[14:22] <kreyren> limbo thanks
[14:23] <kreyren> blackflow I try, but same method worked for other distros and checksum is correct too.. I rather suspt that it's bios config
[14:23] <limbo_> kreyren: if you are on windows, unetbootin/rufus are hand-holdy enough ways to get a bootable USB stick. (why are you even trying to copy the contents out of the iso?)
[14:24] <kreyren> TJ- argent needs recompiling lots of packages since my backup was old I will provide requested info once it's finished and verify if the driver is working on 18.04.1 as I suspect issue in 18.10
[14:24] <kreyren> Limbo: no lol I'm on argent which is Gentoo fork.. Im not using Windows anymore
[14:26] <kreyren> Limbo: based on provided information I understand that it's the correct approach but I try using 'dd' too
[14:26] <blackflow> kreyren: how? what's the dd command you're using?
[14:28] <kreyren> blackflow I was using GUI since I never had issues with other ISO will try did once argent is finished compiling.
[14:28] <blackflow> what?
[14:30] <kreyren> blackflow I was using ark on argent and Drivedroid on Android
[14:30] <kreyren> (Drivedroid allows rooted phones to be mounted as installation media)
[14:30] <blackflow> kreyren: you said you tried using 'dd' too
[14:30] <blackflow> dd is command line, and I was wondering what exact command you used
[14:31] <kreyren> blackflow: no I said that I will try `dd`
[14:32] <blackflow> ah, ok, I misunderstood then.
[14:33] <kreyren> gtg
[14:33] <blackflow> kreyren: dd if=/path/to/iso_file.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=128k            where /dev/sdb is the proper device for the USB stick, make sure you don't accidentally overwrite your main OS disk. no partition number, nothing but raw disk device under /dev .  check the manpage of dd to see what these options do
[14:33] <blackflow> oh, hug it.
[14:34] <limbo_> lotuspsychje: I tried installing the 410 version from the "additional drivers" window, but still get a black screen unless I use nomodeset. when I use nomodeset I can boot to the login screen, but the screen stays black for a very long time after logging in. (I hought it had froze before my mouse showed up)
[14:36] <blackflow> limbo_: btw, you sure that the nvidia driver is actually being used?
[14:38] <limbo_> blackflow: pretty sure, as it's acting like it. The ones added by the ppa are marked as open-source, but are called "driver metapackage nvidia-driver-410"
[14:38] <limbo_> Is there a better way to check?
[14:38] <blackflow> limbo_: yeah in actual xorg log, see what driver is attempted
[14:41] <limbo_> What'm I looking for?
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: this is 18.10 you are on right?
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: pastebin the output, so volunteers can all take a look
[14:42] <limbo_> I am. I was just planning on doing that. /var/log/Xorg.0.log , right?
[14:43] <blackflow> or ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log    if our xorg is run as non-root
[14:43] <blackflow> look at their timestamps if you're uncertain. the correct one will have the latest
[14:43] <blackflow> *if your
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: can you recall your gtx working on other ubuntu versions?
[14:45] <solsTiCe> hi. I can't play mp4/aac audio file with audacious. This is a 4 years old bug supposed to be fixed. So ?
[14:46] <OthenUser> Hello all=) Are there freeradius server specialists here?
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> OthenUser: this looks like a good tutorial: https://thebackroomtech.com/2018/08/16/how-to-install-freeradius-on-ubuntu/
[14:48] <limbo_> lotuspsychje: yes. It worked fine yesterday before I updated some software on 18.04 and rebooted my system. (I upgraded to 18.10 in a bad attemt to fix it, as I suspected broken packages or something)
[14:48] <limbo_> blackflow: Here you go: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CTvRTHsSqY/ The one in my home folder is really old.
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: this is info, you should have provided us from the start
[14:49] <limbo_> also worth noting that my PC hadn't been rebooted since ~50 days before I rebooted it yesterday.
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: after wich software update did your screen turn black?
[14:50] <limbo_> lotuspsychje: updating all availible packages in aptitude.
[14:51] <BluesKaj> aptitude still around?
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: would have been good, to see dpkg logs to see what could borked it
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> solsTiCe: details? bug url?
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> limbo_:  if i was you, i would reinstall 18.04.1 and see what happens, in the future if something goes bad on LTS try to investigate first instead of upgrading to non-lts as a fix
[14:56] <limbo_> lotuspsychje: I still have the logs. I just don't know which one to give you. Here's everything from /var/log/dpkg.log.1 from that package upgrade. (based on time) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2HqvpQRTWc/
[14:56] <blackflow> limbo_: k, so yeah, that shows nvidia is really  used
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: that seems like a real big update, was that after you clean installed 18.04?
[15:01] <limbo_> no, I'd been using 18.04 since I upgraded from 17.10 (and so on since I first installed ubuntu) Each time using do-release-upgrade to do the update.
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: ok tnx
[15:02] <limbo_> Is there a Q&A somewhere so I can divulge as much relevent info as I can about my setup?
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> !info inxi | limbo_
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: after install inxi -F
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: another idea, would be trying to boot another kernel from your system in current state
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> limbo_: dmesg is also mostly used for troubleshooting your system
[15:12] <limbo_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CYTS9Ms69R/ < inxi -F
[15:14] <alnr> my icon launcher is not displayed until i click 'activities'. Its there after rebooting, this happens some time later. i'm on 18.04.1 LTS. anyone know what this issue is?
[15:14] <limbo_> lotuspsychje: I've tried looking at dmesg, but I don't seen anything obvious in there. I've been trying the most and second most recent kernels on boot, and until I used nomodeset, the latest one would only black screen. The second most recent one (can't recall number) booted, but the desktop crashed back to the login screen when I signed in.
[15:43] <Helenah> I'm using an Nvidia GPU with 8 display outputs to allocate seats around my house. I'm using nested X servers per monitor and assigning paricular keyboards to them.
[15:43] <Helenah> The problem is, I don't know the ordering of outputs on my card.
[15:43] <Helenah> You'd think the first port on the card would be DP-0, etc, but this is not the case.
[15:54] <ntd> cd /sys/class/drm
[15:54] <ntd> card0-DP-0/status
[15:54] <ntd> connected/disconnected
[16:01] <Wafficus> Hi there, can anyone help me install Unity 3D for Ubuntu?
[16:10] <ZeZu> pipe: Too many open files
[16:10] <ZeZu> really?
[16:10] <ZeZu> I thought that limit was immensely large
[16:12] <grkblood13> how do i completely wipe an sd card thats hosed beyond repair? even dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb doesnt seem to return it to its virgin state
[16:13] <ZeZu> then it's dead
[16:13] <ZeZu> that write directly to every sector
[16:13] <ZeZu> but also
[16:13] <grkblood13> no matter what the partition table says?
[16:13] <ZeZu> idk how you're define it's virgin state
[16:13] <grkblood13> pre-partitioned
[16:14] <jeremyb> I would use a hammer
[16:14] <ZeZu> oh you need to remove and reinsert or resync the part table
[16:14] <grkblood13> yes
[16:14] <ZeZu> pre-partitioned = you can't get it back there after zero you need to do yourself
[16:14] <blackflow> there's no partition table after that dd
[16:14] <ZeZu> there is none but the kernel doesn't necessarily know
[16:15] <blackflow> "hosed beyond repair" usually implies "can't do anything with it", so... I don't understand the question here :)
[16:15] <ZeZu> yeah
[16:15] <ZeZu> I'm now thinking he meant the bit about pre-partitioned : it needs to be done
[16:15] <grkblood13> hosed beyond repair meaning the data on it. cant save it.
[16:16] <ZeZu> no after you ran dd it was a goner
[16:16] <ZeZu> if you want it to work again
[16:16] <Helenah> ntd: I got card0 dir in that sys directory path you gave me, however, there is no status file.
[16:16] <ZeZu> use gparted or something
[16:16] <ZeZu> saves you from messing with it manually
[16:16] <grkblood13> gparted doesnt recognize it
[16:16] <ntd>  /sys/class/drm$ cat card0-DP-1/stats
[16:17] <ntd> status even
[16:17] <ZeZu> what do you mean it doesn't recognize that it exists?
[16:17] <ZeZu> or that there are filesystems there?
[16:17] <grkblood13> it doesnt show up
[16:17] <blackflow> grkblood13: not sure what you're trying to do, but that dd command will wipe out all sectors on the drive, starting from 0 up to as much as possible. whatever dd can't reach (because of bad sectors), you can't reach, theree's no returning to "virgin state"
[16:17] <ZeZu> gparted has a drop down box,  it doesn't show drives like windows
[16:18] <grkblood13> i know...
[16:18] <ZeZu> you need to select the same device you're running dd command on
[16:18] <ZeZu> Well idk how it could show up in /dev and not be in gparted
[16:18] <ZeZu> that's ... new
[16:18] <ZeZu> use fdisk manually
[16:18] <ZeZu> fdisk /device
[16:18] <blackflow> /dev/sdb   according to that dd
[16:18] <ZeZu> indeed
[16:18] <ZeZu> h for help
[16:19] <ZeZu> create new part table
[16:19] <ZeZu> create new part
[16:19] <ZeZu> leave all defaults
[16:19] <ZeZu> write
[16:19] <ZeZu> then you should see a partition
[16:19] <ZeZu> which can be formatted
[16:30] <acoctres> Dumb question.   How do I use serial port stuff in ubuntu Usually I use putty on windows Is there a native way in linux to type stuff into com0?
[16:30] <ntd>  /dev/tty*
[16:30] <ntd>  /dev/ttyS*
[16:47] <TJ-> Humorous issue; using the hotkeys for display brightness -/+ the notification popup shows the Bell icon :)
[17:17] <limbo_> GUI stuff seems to be working on my machine now, as long as I boot with nomodeset. Although, my motherboard's sound output isn't being detected anymore. The only output channel is HDMI out.
[17:28] <kreyren> TJ- Now i have a problem that you mensioned it seems that ubuntu is causing some kind of software issue on USB reciever to the point where it's not detected even on argent. Can you provide more info?
[17:29] <kreyren> Is there in theory a way to fix the firmware on the reciever?
[17:30] <TJ-> kreyren: Everything I read suggests those devices (the unifying receiver) fail internally in as much as the firmware, or its stored config, get corrupted
[17:31] <kreyren> TJ-: I see, can you recommend course of action?
[17:31] <TJ-> kreyren: /but/ I read one report that was confirmed by 3 people where they powered the PC (laptops I thiink) down completely and removed the battery for an hour and that solved it. That tells me the USB device probably needs a full power drain to cause an internal reset.
[17:32] <kreyren> TJ- There is also a button on the PCB of the reciever (i disassemble it) i tried to press it, hold it and press it multiple times which seems to not do anything.. There aren't any super capacitors so if thats a case it would already by drained i believe
[17:33] <TJ-> kreyren: so if you have a desktop PC you can plug that into (or it is on a desktop PC already) power it down, unplug from the wall, the **press the power button to start it**. That will drain internal capacitors and may also drain any residual in the USB device itselc
[17:34] <TJ-> kreyren: From what I read that button is used to put the device into firmware update mode. I saw several reports where that was done and an LED started rapidly flashing to indicate the firmware update mode... this was in the context of the device failing on Windows PCs and Logitech's recommended firmware update fix
[17:34] <kreyren> TJ-: I believe that its drained but it won't even flash an internal LED to me it seems that the firmware that i loaded on the chip got corruped cause of ubuntu..
[17:35] <TJ-> kreyren: Ubuntu doesn't do anything, the devices themselves seem easy to get themselves corrupted.
[17:35] <kreyren> TJ-: The device worked for 4 years no issues on gentoo the moment i tried it on ubuntu its not working..
[17:35] <TJ-> USB works by asking the device to enumerate its functions (which is what lsusb -v reports). It's up to the device to internally initialise itself, both hardware and internal firmware.
[17:38] <kreyren> I see.. but it still seems as that ubuntu *somehow* corrupted the data on chip that is on USB reciever.. Can you recommend course of action for this usecase assuming that i'm correct?
[17:39] <kreyren> or like can i in theory mount it?
[17:40] <TJ-> kreyren: what is the actual brand and model number on? All I know so far is it is an AV6201 chipset
[17:41] <kreyren> in /var/log/syslog it outputs as Avnera AV6201 on PCB it says PLOTECH 6 84V-0 E169497 1645K TU747HF HB1607-DONGLE-R2 20160929
[17:41] <kreyren> and there is a table with V 1 2 3 4 and HW SW let me make a photos for you
[17:43] <TJ-> kreyren: You're not going to believe this, but I'm looking at a solution that simply sticks a thin piece of paper inside the module - it fixes a problem due to the contacts not making full contact!!
[17:44] <kreyren> lol show me
[17:44] <TJ-> kreyren: this seems to be the first, but there are more that follow on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NlYRsVJB74
[17:45] <kreyren> saw that too but its a different reciever :/
[17:45] <TJ-> kreyren: it makes sense... over time the spring-contacts lose their springiness and make intermittent connections
[17:45] <kreyren> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/513034194243289108/518482086605357057/DSC_0244.jpg?width=709&height=532
[17:46] <kreyren> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/513034194243289108/518482087033045012/DSC_0245.jpg?width=449&height=598
[17:46] <kreyren> lol the lightning is terrible let me fix it
[17:47] <TJ-> kreyren: OK, so yours has the USB A soldered in place
[17:47] <sonicwind> lol at that video TJ-
[17:48] <TJ-> kreyren: /if/ the cause is physical/electrical, with similar devices I've found that the connector pins solder pads sometimes have gone dry-joint or fractured... I've fixed that on countless devices by reflowing the solder/adding a little more.
[17:48] <TJ-> kreyren: can you detect even slight flexing of the USB A connector against the PCB?
[17:49] <kreyren> none flex sorder joints seems good
[17:49] <kreyren> better images: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/513034194243289108/518483600841375753/DSC_0250.jpg?width=709&height=532
[17:49] <kreyren> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/513034194243289108/518483600841375754/DSC_0251.jpg?width=709&height=532
[17:51] <kreyren> There is this button that seem damaged but its okay it just looks worse on the camera
[17:51] <kreyren> it seems that my paper clip damaged the outter layer
[17:54] <TJ-> kreyren: is it connected to a USB 3 or USB2 port?
[17:54] <kreyren> USB2 trying USB 3
[17:55] <TJ-> kreyren: OK, the usual issue is the other way around but it is worth trying any permuation
[17:56] <kreyren> same on USB3
[17:56] <TJ-> kreyren: it was a long shot :)
[17:57] <kreyren> anything is helpful.. is there any way i can reprogram the chip on PC?
[17:57] <kreyren> or in theory mount it somehow?
[17:58] <TJ-> kreyren: the only thing I've seen is the Logitech firmware update via Windows, but if that isn't a Logitech branded device that isn't going to help you
[17:59] <kreyren> its logitech G533
[17:59] <kreyren> i try it
[18:01] <TJ-> kreyren: that's the model I've seen lots of failure reports about
[18:01] <kreyren> source? afaik there was issues with G933
[18:03] <kreyren> https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=G533+issue&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 Quick google search revels just bunch of end-users not knowing how to configure it in window GUI o.o
[18:04] <TJ-> kreyren: the logitech model number is for the HID itself (headset, keyboard, mouse, etc.) - the same unifying receiver is used by multiple devices
[18:04] <kreyren> meaning?
[18:09] <kreyren> installing W10 in VM
[18:10] <kreyren> its already lagging lol
[18:12] <happyhobo> I need help with something that isn't in the repositories but would be great if it was.
[18:13] <ioria> happyhobo, like what ?
[18:14] <happyhobo> Well   I don't like the gnome interface but I install ubuntu to have a solid base to install deepin because deepin is antiquated on some packages.  I used tutorial after tutorial to install deepin and all it did was make a mess.
[18:14] <happyhobo> I installed*
[18:16] <ioria> happyhobo, iirc, there is the leaeasy ppa
[18:17] <happyhobo> It didn't work.  There was something about unsecured repository, gga-pg
[18:18] <happyhobo> Also the tutorials are for 18.04 not 18.10
[18:18] <ioria> happyhobo, are you on cosmic ?
[18:18] <happyhobo> yes'm
[18:19] <ioria> happyhobo, the ppa is for bionic, so ... how did you install deepin ?
[18:21] <happyhobo> Is there a tutorial for cosmetic?
[18:21] <ioria> cosmetic ? nope
[18:22] <Izoch> hey guys, after reading this blogpost https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/11/15/openstack-summit-berlin-mark-shuttleworth i noticed that it says that 18.04 will be supported for the next 10 years; but the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes#Support_lifespan (also here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases) does not seem to be updated to reflect the announcement. Not sure why this is so i thought i should just drop a line in here :)
[18:23] <happyhobo> [1]MrMobius:   Which part of Virginia?
[18:23] <TJ-> Izoch: I suspect it means Canonical's ESM, not community support :D We've heard nothing about it
[18:24] <hggdh> ^ +1
[18:24] <happyhobo> ioria:   I added the repositories after the keyring
[18:24] <kreyren> TJ-: How do i make virtualbox to see the Reciever to be used for W10 ?
[18:24] <kantlivelong> is there a standardized way to auto renew service account kerberos tickets?
[18:24] <ioria> happyhobo, lost you, sy
[18:24] <TJ-> kreyren: no idea; I don't use virtual box. PResumably some kind of USB pass through?
[18:24] <happyhobo> it wouldn't let me ioria  sorry it's cosmic not cosmetic
[18:25] <happyhobo> forgive the et
[18:25] <ioria> happyhobo, what repo did you add ?
[18:26] <happyhobo> http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2013/07/install-linux-deepin-desktop-on-ubuntu.html      this is what I did.
[18:26] <happyhobo> It failed.
[18:27] <kreyren> anyway thanks for helP TJ
[18:27] <happyhobo> Deepin has an antiquated firefox and several other packages.  Ubuntu is incredible and up to date.  If I could combine the amazing dde and ubuntu I'd be cookingg.
[18:28] <happyhobo> ubuntu has random deepin packages default it looks like but nothing major ioria
[18:29] <ioria> happyhobo, you see that those instructions are  for raring  ?
[18:29] <happyhobo> Um really, that's like 99.04
[18:29] <happyhobo> I can
[18:29] <happyhobo> 't find the one for cosmic
[18:30] <ioria> happyhobo, 'cause there is none : http://packages.linuxdeepin.com/ubuntu/dists/
[18:31] <ioria> happyhobo, why don't you just run deepin in vm
[18:31] <happyhobo> I want to run it straight.  I do too much to bounce in and out of vm
[18:31] <happyhobo> I have trouble saving and mounting and all of that with vm.
[18:32] <ioria> happyhobo, then use bionic
[18:32] <happyhobo> I would love to but I don
[18:32] <happyhobo> t know how without a tutorial
[18:32] <happyhobo> bionic and cosmic will interweave, I know that much.
[18:33] <ioria> happyhobo, no, you reinstall ubuntu (18.04) the use the ppa
[18:34] <happyhobo> How do I use the ppa?
[18:34] <happyhobo> brb
[18:38] <RonaldsMazitis> hello
[18:39] <RonaldsMazitis> if I randomly unplug my mouse and then start using touchpad I can
[18:39] <RonaldsMazitis> 't
[18:39] <RonaldsMazitis> reconnect mouse
[18:39] <RonaldsMazitis> till restart
[18:39] <RonaldsMazitis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1804874
[18:39] <RonaldsMazitis> I made bug report
[18:40] <RonaldsMazitis> guy said I had to go to upstream kernel
[18:40] <RonaldsMazitis> never have tried that
[18:40] <pikapika> Hi
[18:40] <RonaldsMazitis> in fact, my mouse is dead right now
[18:41] <pikapika> Does Ubuntu come with a program via which one can see which programs are using the Microphone, and give/revoke mic perms to programs?
[18:43] <pikapika> oh nevermind found it
[18:43] <happyhobo> ioria:   due to the complicated nature of this and the fact that I would be stepping backward would I be better served to use Deepin and fight to get the antiquated packages up to date
[18:53] <RonaldsMazitis> lsusb shows no mouse
[18:59] <hggdh> RonaldsMazitis: so you are not going to check on upsteam kernels, correct?
[19:06] <RonaldsMazitis> I don't remmeber last time I have installed kernel manually
[19:06] <RonaldsMazitis> hddgh
[19:06] <RonaldsMazitis> hggdh
[19:12] <ioria> RonaldsMazitis, may i ask you why you have compiz installed on  18.04 ?
[19:13] <hggdh> RonaldsMazitis: instructions are in the link, in the bug. Pretty much, your only hope is to try and find out which kernel broke it (or fixed it)
[19:16] <RonaldsMazitis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds
[19:17] <RonaldsMazitis> this does not seem easy
[19:17] <RonaldsMazitis> I think I will get more problems by doing this
[19:17] <RonaldsMazitis> than fixing my mouse
[19:17] <RonaldsMazitis> I don't understand how mouse can be problem in 18.04
[19:18] <RonaldsMazitis> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.20-rc4/
[19:20] <RonaldsMazitis> okay I'm down for kernel version 4.20
[19:20] <RonaldsMazitis> lol
[19:21] <vach0n> RonaldsMazitis: I wasn't here when you explained your issue. Can you tell me what your issue is? :-)
[19:21] <RonaldsMazitis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1804874
[19:23] <amazoniantoad> Why would a vm just turn off after having been turned on? I keep turning on my vm's and then they seem to turn off on their own after some time.  I tried to investigate what was going on and my vm's just say "booting from hard disk" and then just power off. Here is the command I use to install the vm: sudo -S virt-install --name test-1 --ram 200 --disk path=test-1.img,format=raw --noautoconsole -v --import
[19:24] <RonaldsMazitis> let's how "high" linux works
[19:24] <RonaldsMazitis> linus torvalds prolly sparked it
[19:25] <RonaldsMazitis> of course after fixing intel security problems
[19:27] <RonaldsMazitis> ukuu says that it is only 4.19.6
[19:27] <RonaldsMazitis> not 4.20
[19:29] <RonaldsMazitis> it also say there are some changes about USB
[19:41] <azi`> is there any variant of ubuntu that will run swiftly on a machine with only 32gb disk?
[19:42] <gordonjcp> azi`: any of them
[19:42] <gordonjcp> 32GB is masses
[19:42] <gordonjcp> azi`: the more "full-featured" versions like "normal" Ubuntu will need quite a bit of memory and a fastish processor
[19:43] <azi`> yeah I am not really concerned with using it for day to day
[19:43] <azi`> so I can install the vanilla ubuntu
[19:43] <azi`> if i only have 32GB of disk space?
[19:43] <SwedeMike> azi`: yes, that's plenty.
[19:43] <gordonjcp> yeah, the installer is only about 2GB
[19:43] <gordonjcp> all expanded out it's about 4GB or something
[19:43] <SwedeMike> azi`: if you had said 4GB I'd be worried. 8GB might be a streth if you want to do more. 32GB is plenty.
[19:44] <ioria> azi`, maybe ram and cpu are relevant too
[19:44] <gordonjcp> yeah
[19:44] <gordonjcp> everything except /home on this laptop is about 12GB
[19:44] <gordonjcp> and that's got masses of stuff installed, truly masses
[19:46] <azi`> right, makes sense now that you told me =)
[19:47] <leonardus> How do I enable direct rendering? I just got a new RX 580 and I don't think direct rendering is enbaled.
[19:47] <leonardus> enabled*
[19:47] <yveslevier> This is a test
[19:54] <RonaldsMazitis> I'm now on 4.19.6
[19:54] <RonaldsMazitis> mouse has not disconnected yet
[20:05] <RonaldsMazitis> no mouse still can't reconnect
[20:05] <RonaldsMazitis> :<
[20:05] <leonardus> How do I install AMD GPU drivers?
[20:07] <amazoniantoad> leonardus, their website should allow you to download the drivers.
[20:12] <NerdTheThird> arent those already baked into the kernel?
[20:12] <amazoniantoad> maybe, probably. But you can also get the drivers from their website
[20:12] <NerdTheThird> tru
[20:12] <blackflow> I'd start with in-kernel ones
[20:12] <amazoniantoad> yeah definitely
[20:12] <NerdTheThird> i still they are baked into the kernel, so no need
[20:13] <NerdTheThird> idk
[20:13] <leonardus> Is it possible that the drivers from their website are better?
[20:13] <NerdTheThird> nah
[20:13] <NerdTheThird> i think those in kernel are better optimized
[20:13] <blackflow> I think it's the very same thing
[20:13] <NerdTheThird> then again, im talking out of my ass here, so double check it
[20:13] <leonardus> How do I check to make sure direct rendering / 3d acceleration is on?
[20:13] <blackflow> unless you really thing they're wasting time with two different codebases for..... what purpose?
[20:13] <NerdTheThird> optimization, idk
[20:14] <amazoniantoad> leonardus, the drivers from their website will definitely be the latest
[20:14] <ioria> leonardus, glxinfo | grep render
[20:16] <NerdTheThird> i like your nickname ioria
[20:16] <ioria> ok
[20:16] <NerdTheThird> ok
[20:16] <amazoniantoad> What about me?
[20:17] <NerdTheThird> also dope
[20:17] <amazoniantoad> I'm a slimy toad
[20:17] <NerdTheThird> that's cool if you're into such stuff
[20:17]  * amazoniantoad rebbit
[20:17] <amazoniantoad> Watch out NerdTheThird, if you touch me you could get warts
[20:17] <NerdTheThird>  ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!
[20:17] <amazoniantoad> lol
[20:22] <NerdTheThird> where does your nickname comes from?
[20:22] <NerdTheThird> inb4 amazon
[20:22] <Linux-Hippie> amazoniantoad, it's not the warts I'm worried about, it's the poison
[20:22] <ioria> NerdTheThird, are you mit ?
[20:23] <Linux-Hippie> The hallucinogenics I don't mind so much.
[20:25] <NerdTheThird> am i what?
[20:25] <ioria> sorry
[20:25] <NerdTheThird> mit is myth in my language, but i don't believe you're asking me that lmao
[20:25] <NerdTheThird> I AM A LEGEND
[20:25] <NerdTheThird> _insert dramatic music_
[20:27] <ioria> NerdTheThird, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
[20:27] <NerdTheThird> nah, i'm south east europe
[20:28] <NerdTheThird> kek
[20:28] <ioria> NerdTheThird, ok, sy
[20:28] <NerdTheThird> no need to apologize
[20:33] <CarlFK> how do override this wiht the apt command?  APT::Install-Recommends "false";
[20:33] <CarlFK> i installed qemu, but now I want the recommends
[20:34] <ntd> apt-get install package --no-install-recommends
[20:34] <ntd> --reinstall and the opposite
[20:35] <CarlFK> reinstall - that's what i need ... i think...
[20:36] <SkyWay> i have a transmission user <debian-transmission> and it can not write to folder .. drwxrws---   2 rock64 rock64     6 Mar 19  2018 completed
[20:37] <SkyWay> i did `sudo usermod -a -G rock64 debian-transmission`
 but still no
[20:37] <SkyWay> what can i do ?
[20:37] <NerdTheThird> use qbittorrent
[20:38] <SkyWay> :))
[20:38] <SkyWay> using transmission for 4 years now
[20:38] <ntd> or let the transmission user have perms for the dir?
[20:38] <SkyWay> i think it's a matter of chmod
[20:38] <SkyWay> ntd, i added debian-transmission to rock64 group
[20:38] <NerdTheThird> idk qbittorent can search torrents from within itself
[20:38] <SkyWay> isn't that suppose to be enough ?
[20:38] <SkyWay> am i missing something?
[20:39] <ntd> SkyWay, you should do it the other way around
[20:39] <ntd> that way rock64 users have access to transmission files, not the other way around
[20:39] <SkyWay> i'm listening :)
[20:39] <ntd> ofc, appropriate chmod
[20:40] <CarlFK> how do I see what the recommends are?
[20:40] <SkyWay> ntd, groups debian-transmission
[20:40] <SkyWay> shows debian-transmission : debian-transmission rock64
[20:40] <ioria> CarlFK,  apt-cache depends pkg
[20:41] <SkyWay> so you say to `chown -R debian-transmission: /path` ?
[20:41] <ioria> CarlFK,  orapt-cache show pkg
[20:41] <SkyWay> so that the owner is transmission .. no ?
[20:52] <eelstrebor> when creating a dual boot machine, do i need to create a separate efi partition for each OS?
[20:54] <compdoc> you would think a boot manager would handle that, but Ive never done it so I'll shutup now
[21:03] <TJ-> eelstrebor: no
[21:05] <eelstrebor> didn't think so - seems redundent to have more than 1 - been having trouble getting ubuntu and windows 10 to install on a ssd so i was wondering
[21:06] <Mixxit> hey im trying to install ubuntu server but the install screen is showing twice and all weird
[21:08] <Mixxit> i cant select the language properly due to it
[21:10] <Mixxit> blob:https://imgur.com/3890a500-a358-420c-8f64-c6898bd80985
[21:10] <Mixxit> https://imgur.com/a/OVbO7td
[21:11] <eelstrebor> not sure if i can do anything about this since it seems it's a hardware issue and not firmware: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Vx32nQnmyV/
[21:12]  * eelstrebor hates error messages that can't be fixed or easily fixed
[21:13] <eelstrebor> looks like there's a patch for fwupd at github but i don't like messing with unofficial stuff
[21:18] <Mixxit> i have do nomodeset to get around it for now guys
[21:18] <Mixxit> but i dunno why its all screwy like that
[21:19] <Mixxit> and wow the new install gui is very fancy :)
[21:24] <Schnabeltierchen> Mhm is someone good with curl? i´m trying to send some data via curl gathered by some script, but i cant get curl to send the variable. any idea? https://nopaste.xyz/?450364e7c14f38cd#I7gfHr3H5x5PJn4ulOKpmmc2l/F9rJIYZ1RxgI+nfrk=
[21:30] <gambl0r3> how do i open a executable file?
[21:32] <wpk> gambl0r3: ./filename
[21:32] <wpk> (to execute it)
[21:32] <eelstrebor> Schnabeltierchen, my programming skills are rusty but don't you have to initialize x to some integer value?
[21:33] <Schnabeltierchen> eelstrebor the infos gathered are good, i checked them with "echo $text" instead of curling it...
[21:34] <gambl0r3> wpk, i did that but nothing happens
[21:34] <gambl0r3> ls
[21:35] <evilaim> I have an email server, I send email to a gmail account, goes into spam.  Is there a way to stop that from happening server side?
[21:35] <gambl0r3> it seems like all it did was show the contents of the executable file
[21:37] <Schnabeltierchen> gamblor3 try "sh filename"
[21:37] <Schnabeltierchen> or chmod +x filename
[21:37] <OerHeks> check if the file is executable, or check the manual
[21:42] <wpk> gambl0r3: if nothing happens (no error) then the file was executed
[21:43] <gambl0r3> the file is executable file but i had to move it o /usr/bin/
[21:43] <gambl0r3> then it worked. thanks
[21:44] <gambl0r3> anyone can recommend a good linux book? no pdf's.
[21:54] <ikonia> gambl0r3: bit off topic here
[21:59] <pa> hi
[21:59] <Schnabeltierchen> hu
[21:59] <pa> anyone on a touchscreen notebook/tablet?
[22:00] <pa> i somehow can't get multitouch to work in kde plasma, even in applications
[22:03] <NerdTheThird> try with ubuntu
[22:03] <NerdTheThird> gnome has better touch support afaik
[22:06]  * WoC looks for a phone with pre-installed uBuntu ;]
[22:07]  * WoC realizes the search is futile...
[22:08] <NerdTheThird> you can install ubuntu on your phone, you just need the right phone
[22:08] <WoC> NerdTheThird, wouldnt happen to know anything about that ?
[22:09] <WoC> i.e. which phone ?
[22:09] <NerdTheThird> https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
[22:09] <WoC> i thought ubuntu-touch was eol
[22:10] <NerdTheThird> community continued making it
[22:10] <WoC> k, great news, ty
[22:10] <NerdTheThird> np, but do more research about it
[22:11] <NerdTheThird> i'd rather go with something like lineageOS or sailfishOS
[22:12] <WoC> hammerhead ?
[22:12] <NerdTheThird> what?
[22:13] <WoC> no outstanding issues on the hammerhead, nexus 5
[22:13] <WoC> do you know if android is still on it?
[22:14] <NerdTheThird> on what?
[22:14] <WoC> nexus 5, hammer =head
[22:14] <NerdTheThird> idk dude
[22:15] <WoC> k, ty though
[22:15] <NerdTheThird> np
[22:15] <WoC> not a android fan
[22:16] <Mixxit> how do i install ubuntu on a ryzen in raid configuration?
[22:16] <WoC> android too slow and too retarded compared to ubuntu
[22:16] <Mixxit> lspci says i have raid bus controller 7916 rev 61 and raid bus controller 43bd (rev 02)
[22:16] <Mixxit> but does not see the drive
[22:17] <Mixxit> ive tried version 18.04, 18.10 and am now trying 19.04
[22:20] <OerHeks> for Raid, see https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/advanced-installation.html.en
[22:31] <Mixxit> this is software raid right
[22:57] <MadLamb> Hello, I have my battery icon indicator oscilating constantly from charging/not charging. I tried to google but wasn't able to come up with a solution. Any ideas?
[22:58] <SwaggerArch> MadLamb: power supply
[22:58] <SwaggerArch> MadLamb: tower or laptop?
[22:59] <MadLamb> SwaggerArch, laptop. Thinkpad T440p
[22:59] <MadLamb> SwaggerArch, Ubuntu 18.10
[22:59] <guiverc> Mixxit, just fyi:  i use hardware raid on a couple of servers, `lsblk` does not see any physical drives (though I can smartctl to them with options), - lsblk see's a large 'disk' which is made up of drives my hardware raid controller controls
[22:59] <OerHeks> is your laptop able to work on that battery?
[22:59] <SwaggerArch> MadLamb: check if brick is hot plugged in all the way and
[23:00] <MadLamb> SwaggerArch, brick?
[23:00] <NerdTheThird> charger
[23:00] <MadLamb> yes I'm sure it is
[23:01] <SwaggerArch> MadLamb: Hot or smoking hot?
[23:01] <SwaggerArch> MadLamb: how long has this laptop been running without a restart?
[23:03] <SwaggerArch> MadLamb: got windows installed on dual boot and no problems then yes you have a issue with idicator
[23:35] <MadLamb> Hello, I have my battery icon indicator oscillating constantly from charging/not charging. I tried to google but wasn't able to come up with a solution. Thinkpad T440p, Ubuntu 18.10. Any ideas?
[23:47] <Mixxit> guys this doesnt seem to work for me
[23:47] <Mixxit> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/advanced-installation.html.en
[23:47] <Mixxit> i dont have half the options it describes at the top
[23:47] <Mixxit> mine looks like a new file system thing
[23:52] <Mixxit> i have like a red installation ui that looks different ot the old ones
[23:57] <Mixxit> so if i try to use the new uis create raid method, it says i must put two active volumes into the raid array but then says if i put all disks into the raid array there will be no where to put the boot partition