[00:34] <guiverc> wxl is there a task on phab.lubuntu.me that relates to what I'm trying to do? [lubuntu-default-settings] or just 4be7e413ec21.  (the link provided also links to 0229d7cbb2e3 which deletes a file I do see on my lubuntu 18.04 system)
[00:35] <guiverc> i have `debbuild -S --no-sign` (only warning about ancient-standards),  then `debsign -k..source.changes`, and `dput ppa:gui..` to get successfully uploaded packages .. but I don't see them & have no idea as what issues if any lp has  (first time I've used a ppa).   anyone got any clues on where i should look?
 @guiverc what're you attempting to do?  upload the packages to a PPA for builds?
[01:07] <guiverc> a very slighly modified lubuntu-default-settings_0.54.21 (the .2 is Simon's, the .21 as I've also made change, but i'm primarily trying to learn! - relates to prior wxl asked question)
[01:07] <guiverc> sorry teward ^
[01:09] <guiverc> also all changes I've done locally; not via git - i clone'd & did it all locally, assuming it's not the issue - my plan was to do it non-local when I understand what I'm doing :)
 guiverc: so you aren't seeing it when uploaded to the PPA, you mean?  Did you receive an email about it being accepted or rejected?
[02:48] <guiverc> :)  my ppa is empty, i looked for email in gmail & saw none.. didn't look in personal email.. will look
 an email about accept/reject will go to your primary email address on Launchpad
 so always check that first :P
 if you get absolutely no message then you did something wrong, if you got a reject it'll explain why
[02:57] <guiverc> i must have done something wrong, I see no email in personal either, and just checked, gmail is my preferred
[03:00] <guiverc> i think I recall reading you should use development release (19.04) - my steps were done on 18.04 box (where I plan to test) - is this an issue?
[03:02] <wxl> no that's right
[03:02] <wxl> try uploading it again
[03:02] <wxl> whatever you use to build must be the same system as you're targeting
[03:03] <wxl> so it sounds like 18.04 is right
[03:06] <guiverc> yep. 18.04 is my target.  -- some output from commands http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7hK62cJSMG/  (copied to txt file; were performed yesterday)
[03:07] <wxl> oh
[03:07] <wxl> i see the problem
[03:07] <wxl> you didn't sign the original and it failed because of that, right?
[03:08] <wxl> and that's why you did the debsign, right?
[03:11] <guiverc> yeah the packaging instructions gave me the --no-sign .. ; and yep that's why i signed later in step not in instructions
[03:12] <teward> um
[03:12] <teward> which instructions
[03:12] <wxl> well the instructions for uploading to a ppa (at the bottom of the tutorial) are meant to supercede that
[03:12] <teward> because wxl and I are in agreement the instructions are... well, wrong for PPA destined uploads
[03:13] <wxl> i set the basic tutorial (which does not expect one to have to upload to ppa's) to --no-sign to save people the hassle of gpg
[03:13] <guiverc> teward, https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging-tutorial/  (yep basic; and I'm not following exactly anyway)
[03:13] <teward> wxl: oh so when I futz with things per that tutorial...
[03:14] <teward> I can just do my traditional `debuild -S` because gpg is a requirement on my case because nginx in ubuntu-server :P
[03:14] <guiverc> at this stage I'm NOT intended for real, it's ppa to learn & test... [first]
[03:14] <teward> guiverc: right, but for PPA destined test builds
[03:14] <teward> you have to have the gpg part
[03:14] <wxl> yeah
[03:14] <wxl> i wish phab wiki's had indexes
[03:14] <wxl> sigh
[03:14] <teward> PPA uploads must be GPG signed with a key tied to your Launchpad account
[03:15] <wxl> i should probably split the sections out into separate pages
[03:15] <teward> (just like direct uploads into the standard Ubuntu repos requires the GPG signature too)
[03:15] <wxl> anyways, here's the deal. let's say you do this:
[03:15] <teward> wxl: yeah that might be a good idea
[03:15] <wxl> 1. build unsigned
[03:15] <wxl> 2. upload
[03:15] <wxl> it gets rejected
[03:15] <wxl> and then:
[03:15] <wxl> 1. sign
[03:15] <teward> wxl: or you won't get it processed at all
[03:15] <wxl> 2. upload
[03:15] <wxl> it gets rejected
[03:15] <wxl> or ^^
[03:16] <wxl> the fix: increment the version (i usually append somehting like ppa2 or whatever), rebuild (signed, of course), and upload
[03:17] <guiverc> how does the ppa upload know it's from me  (if it's unsigned.. couldn't it be anyone uploading?)
[03:18] <teward> guiverc: it actually ignores unsigned
[03:18] <teward> as i said earlier
[03:18] <teward> you MUST have a GPG signed upload
[03:18] <teward> for a PPA to accept
[03:18] <wxl> look at the bottom of the tutorial for the ppa instructions
[03:18] <teward> that GPG signature will tie to a specific public key which you will have to generate/setup
[03:18] <teward> i'll let wxl help you
[03:18] <teward> while I get more drunk :)
 unrelated Simon is now possessed.  *hides*
[03:19] <wxl> XD
[03:20] <guiverc> yeah I looked lower down (all of instructions), but as I'm not yet understanding (no light bulb moment yet), I forget everything...  .. will try & follow what you've advised - thanks teward & wxl 
[03:20] <wxl> it'll come :)
[03:27] <guiverc> :)\
[03:27] <guiverc> :)
[04:42] <wxl> hey @foxns3 what's up
[05:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Bugs] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) : 
 how to Build a Custom  debian Linux Distribution?
[05:54] <wxl> totally offtopic, sorry
 How does lubuntu build its own iso?
[05:55] <wxl> ubuntu provides the infrasturcture
 Where can I send a link?
[05:56] <wxl> a link to what?
 ubuntu infrasturcture
 about infrasturcture
[05:57] <wxl> so you want someone to send you a link, right? you said you want to send a link but i don't think that's what you mean
[05:59] <wxl> you might try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
 well
 @lubuntu_bot thx
 Hi, I've installed breeze, which should contain breeze-dark theme, how can I configure lxqt to use that currently it only shows the light version in lxappearance-qt
 Okay, somehow get it work with cp from /usr/share/color-scheme to ~/.config
 Fwd from acheronuk: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2018-December/011755.html
 Fwd from acheronuk: Xubuntu drop i386 iso
 Привет всем
[17:46] <wxl[m]> It's time for us to drop 32 bit now
[17:46] <kc2bez> It would help with my hoarding addiction.
 I'm +1.
 I'll prep an announcement later.
 Привет всем
 Есть русские?
 @dthprsnd [Привет всем], Please speak English.
 Okay)
 @tsimonq2 so 32bit ISOs are going away then since Lubuntu is the only one to still have them.
 since Xubuntu now stopped 32bit ISOs I assume
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