[04:42] <saptech> hello all
[04:43] <wxl> \o
[04:43] <saptech> after updating to 18.10, when I boot I'm taking to this virtual keyboard screen instead of the login screen
[04:43] <wxl> is lightdm running?
[04:43] <saptech> how can I remove the virtual keyboard screen?
[04:44] <saptech> yes lightdm
[04:44] <wxl> well there's your problem
[04:44] <wxl> 18.10 uses sddm
[04:44] <wxl> you have holdovers from 18.04 which creates all sorts of ridiculous issues
[04:44] <saptech> hmmm
[04:45] <saptech> will it be okay to use lxdm? I've had problems with sddm before
[04:45] <wxl> we haven't tested it so you're welcome to try it out
[04:45] <wxl> have you had problems with THIS version of sddm? if not, i'd try it before deciding it's not going to work
[04:46] <saptech> issues with sddm and another distro running plasma5
[04:47] <wxl> that's pretty much unrelated, it sounds like
[04:48] <saptech> I'll see
[04:48] <wxl> you should see this
[04:48] <wxl> ESPECIALLY the very end
[04:48] <wxl> https://manual.lubuntu.me/D/upgrading.html
[04:48] <wxl> it tells you what you should get rid of to not have a total frankenstein system
[04:49] <saptech> that's the info I used to upgrade
[04:49] <wxl> but you didn't do the very end which suggests to remove packages, lightdm included
[04:50] <saptech> I removed most all of it. I left lightdm because I didn't want to use sddm
[04:51] <wxl> well if you don't follow the instructions you're on your own XD
[04:51] <saptech> I do not remember seeing the virtual keyboard with 18.04
[04:51] <wxl> well you could go and tweak the lightdm settings so that there's no virtual keyboard
[04:51] <saptech> but I only used lubuntu for a few months before the upgrade to 18.10
[04:52] <wxl> you probably have a "keyboard" line in there somewhere
[04:53] <saptech> ok
[04:53] <saptech> thanks for the info
[04:54] <wxl> np
[04:55] <saptech> this was my first time trying lubuntu, but became a little disappointed when it was upgrading with lxqt instead of lxde
[04:55] <saptech> I understand why you doing it
[04:56] <saptech> bad experiences with lxqt
[04:56] <saptech> but I'm always willing to give a distro a try
[04:57] <wxl> yeah well lxde has slowed to a crawl. one of its most major developers left it for lxqt (pcman himself). they STILL aren't ready for gtk3, not to mention upcoming gtk4. it's a necessity
[04:57] <wxl> lxqt is under heavy development. if there's something lacking in it, i'm sure you'll find a quick resolution
[04:59] <saptech> interesting
[04:59] <wxl> it's hard to get *translations* into lxde
[04:59] <saptech> I'm going to stick with it and see how it work for me
[05:00] <wxl> if you have problems, file a bug report! we'll work to get it fixed
[05:00] <saptech> ok, good to know
[05:01] <saptech> I'll give sddm a try, since this experience with lxqt is going great with me
[05:02] <wxl> good to hear
[05:06] <saptech> wxl, it we're not using xfburn, what are they using in place of it?
[05:06] <wxl> everytime someone asks me this i have to go look it up because i never burn cds XD
[05:07] <saptech> lol....I do not see a substitute for it
[05:07] <saptech> xfburn is a great burner
[05:07] <saptech> I think people are burning dvd moreso now days
[05:08] <wxl> yeah i don't even bother with those
[05:09] <wxl> k3b
[05:10] <saptech> hmmm
[05:13] <saptech> will k3b pull in a bunch of kde/plasma depends?
[05:13] <wxl> it's included in lxqt.. so assumedly you already have it
[05:14] <wxl> but kde has pretty much modularized all their stuff so there's nothing (except for plasma and pieces related to it) that pull in a whole ton of dependencies
[05:14] <saptech> ok
[05:19] <JohnDoe_71Rus> xfburn +
[05:20] <saptech> :)
[05:20] <JohnDoe_71Rus> and k3b + too
[05:20] <saptech> yes
[05:20] <JohnDoe_71Rus> different case
[05:21] <JohnDoe_71Rus>  xfburn quick burn image
[05:22] <saptech> how well does lxqt apps work with standalone openbox?
[05:22] <wxl> should work fine, but we don't actually include it in our tests
[05:24] <JohnDoe_71Rus> not lxde(qt) but very nice https://commit-digest.org/issues/2006-12-10/files/sensorload14.png
[05:26] <JohnDoe_71Rus> better lxtask
[05:28] <saptech> I normally use the default DE for the family but usually run openbox for myself, and I use the Switch User feature alot. Some distros gave me problems switching users running sddm & lightdm
[05:29] <saptech> I have Mageia as my main OS, Voidlinux, Devuan & now Lubuntu
[05:29] <saptech> that is one reason I stuck with Lxdm for display manager
[05:34] <wxl> i'm not sure lxdm is even very well maintained
[05:35] <saptech> I'm going to try sddm...I need to try it now