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ducasseMixxit: you can still download images with the old server installer00:07
ducasseMixxit: which release is this?00:08
aidrocsidAnyone know a way I can lock my mouse to a single screen while running dual monitors in 18.04?00:09
Mixxit16.4.1 and 16.4.1000:11
Mixxitive also tested it on 18 but the docs were for 1600:11
Mixxit16.10* i mean not 16.4.1000:12
aidrocsidMixxit, for mouse lock?00:12
ducasseMixxit: 16.10 is eol, no point in installing that00:13
Mixxitim about to try 18.04.100:13
Mixxitbut im pretty sure the doc https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/advanced-installation.html.en-GB#software-raid00:14
Mixxithas not been updated to match 18s new install ui00:14
Mixxitso right now i cant install with raid on two disks00:14
Mixxitgreat00:18
ducasseMixxit: here's the old installer - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04/release/00:18
Mixxitnow my screen is just garbled00:19
Mixxitthats the one ive justed booted ducasse00:19
Mixxithttps://imgur.com/a/9N7i65l00:21
Mixxitnomodeset does the same btw00:21
xibalbahey all, looking for some help to NAT my ens160 (LAN) traffic through my tun0 interface (SSH). I've done the following https://8n1.org/14114/5bd1, but when I point a machine at this 'tunneler' system to use as a gateway i dont see any traffic going into tun0 when checking via tcpdump / tshark00:23
xibalbai can ping between my two tun0 interfaces though00:23
xibalba192.168.99.100 → 192.168.99.200 ICMP 84 Echo (ping) reply00:24
fasslaidrocsid, i don't know about something ready for that, though i once intercepted mouse and keyboard to zoom in the ui when a specific keyboard mouse was used, you maybe could use it to not forward mouse events to the other screen. not sure about the details though anymore, it was some time ago00:26
fasslor maybe this still works? https://superuser.com/a/177487/50575400:28
Mixxitvga=640 got around the issue so far for me00:30
Mixxitattempting install now00:30
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MadLambHello, I have my battery icon indicator oscilating constantly from charging/not charging. I tried to google but wasn't able to come up with a solution. Any ideas?00:33
MadLambUbuntu 18.10, ThinkPad T440p00:34
Mixxitthis documentation makes no sense i think its wrong00:39
Mixxityou cant do what it says even on the old installer00:39
Mixxitok i kinda worked it out a bit but the doc is definitely not correct00:43
Mixxitnew problem is installing system says 'could not find any live images'00:43
Mixxitall this suffering beause i bought amd :(00:44
Mixxityet they are good the ones for drivers right00:44
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Mixxitthanks anyway guys00:57
Intelo_How much a laptop be constantly used in 24 hours for cpu usage above 70% and 90% ram. A laptop like m6700?01:16
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CoolerZcan someone help? I am trying to do   chmod 400 file01:31
CoolerZbut the permissions being set are -r-xr-xr-x01:32
marcodiegoCoolerZ, what permissions exactly do you want?01:36
OneM_IndustriesSo, I have a failing HDD.01:42
OneM_IndustriesI already have a replacement, same size, slightly different type.01:42
OneM_IndustriesIs transferring everything over as simple as just copying the old drive over to the new, and physically replacing the old with the new, or will there be other steps?01:43
CoolerZanyone?01:44
kk4ewtOneM_Industries,  boot into a live image and dd old one to the new one01:44
OneM_IndustriesThat's it? No fiddling with UUIDs etc?01:44
kk4ewtthats is01:45
OneM_IndustriesNice.01:45
CoolerZmarcodiego, i think i already posted the command01:45
CoolerZyeah chmod 40001:45
Intelo_How much a laptop be constantly used in 24 hours for cpu usage above 70% and 90% ram. A laptop like m6700?01:45
kk4ewtCoolerZ,  which makes no sense01:46
CoolerZi know right?01:46
CoolerZwhy is it changing to -r-xr-xr-x ?01:46
kk4ewtwhat file is it01:46
CoolerZits a .pem key file01:47
kk4ewtno you changing to 400 makes no sense01:47
CoolerZthats whats required by ssh01:47
fengshaunI'm running ubuntu 18.10 and have noticed minimized applications don't show up on the sidebar01:47
kk4ewtno idea where you are getting that from01:47
fengshaunit used to work in 18.0401:47
fengshaunalso, the sidebar is visible in the login screen01:48
CoolerZanyway its always worked on other ubuntu oses01:48
fengshaunI suspect something is borked01:48
CoolerZi don't know why its not working now01:48
CoolerZhmm thats weird01:48
CoolerZchmod 700 sets all the permissions ons01:49
CoolerZdid something change with the chmod command?01:49
kk4ewtno 700 set rwx--- ---01:50
CoolerZkk4ewt, well its not doing that01:50
CoolerZits setting it to rwxrwxrwx01:50
kk4ewt400 would be -w- --- ---01:50
CoolerZkk4ewt, no 400 is read only01:50
CoolerZby owner01:50
kk4ewtyes which since your key is in your home folder should be 60001:51
OerHeksjups01:52
kk4ewt-rw-------. 1 jbwillia jbwillia 1.8K Aug 28  2015 id_rsa01:52
CoolerZoh i found it https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/8101:52
CoolerZsome wsl bs01:52
CoolerZkk4ewt, why 600? its not supposed to be written to01:53
CoolerZalso its not in my home folder01:53
p0aHello01:58
p0aI want to install apache + PHP on a local directory that I can later remove, how can I do this?01:58
alazyI'm beginning to use software that isn't packeged as a .deb. Mostly, I  git clone https://github... into a ~/gits folder and then make install etc., but this doesn't record the source URL or allow easy updates. What's a better way?02:01
OerHeksfor easy removal a lot of trouble, easiest way is moving your documentroot https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-move-an-apache-web-root-to-a-new-location-on-ubuntu-16-0402:01
OerHeksalazy, a better way would be searching for a PPA that gives debs and updates02:02
OerHeksor snap packages02:03
alazyOerHeks: Sure, but this is specifically for when there *isn't* a PPA or deb or snap - there's nothing available but a github or gitlab URL. I'm surprised if there isn't a tool to track github repos and download them all.02:11
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gofioit seems like if I ask for a channel list the program crashes :-/04:30
lotuspsychjegofio: freenode has a very large list, better search channels with !alis04:31
gofiothanks lotuspsychje :-) That was my guess, but thanks for verification04:34
gofiowonder if there's anybody else with ubuntu 17.10 here...04:35
lotuspsychjegofio: 17.10 is end of life04:35
lotuspsychjegofio: we advice to install a supported version (from the topic)04:35
gofioyeap, thanks again. It has been my first attempt into linux and did not know was the worst choice I could make :-D04:37
lotuspsychjegofio: what do you mean?04:38
gofioI also made a partition over windows 7 without license from the ubuntu instalation pendrive...(also not recomended). But oh well, before I format the entire hard disk and start from scratch and install the 14.04 version I'm lookin how far can it go now I'm already into it04:40
gofioI mean I did not know version 17.10 was what it is04:40
gofiothis channel looks very promising :-)04:42
WixyHey all. Is there a way to make all windows show on the taskbar vertical panel (what is it called?) on wayland?04:42
Wixyit's really frustrating when you have multiple windows of the same application and you can't find where it is because the thumbnail it shows is too small to differentiate04:42
Wixyreally time consuming04:43
WixyDock, that's what the bar is called!04:44
WixyI don't want windows of the same application to be collapsed into one single icon04:45
gofiodoesn't have that icon like multiple dots:? one dot per window04:45
Wixyyes, I don't want that behavior. I would rather have two separate icons so it's easier to get one window of the other04:46
Wixythe question is how04:46
lotuspsychjeWixy: look into dconf-editor04:46
lotuspsychjeWixy: there are some dock behaviour settings you can adjust there04:46
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gofioI'm using version 17.10 but when I point to the icon it pops the windows I have open, dunno04:47
lotuspsychjegofio: dont give advice from an eol version please04:47
gofiodid i give advice lotuspsychje ?04:48
WixyI can select any of the grouped windows from the dock icon, but it's time consuming. I always select the wrong window since it's hard to differentiate them depending on the application04:49
lotuspsychjegofio: we dont support end of life versions here, so sharing your experience isnt usefull neither from 17.1004:49
WixyI've wasted so much time that way I just want windows to be ungrouped04:49
Wixysame for the task switcher, windows are grouped. I don't want that04:49
lotuspsychjeWixy: look into dconf-editor04:49
Wixyyep, I'm installing it04:49
gofiois there a channel where 17.10 can be discussed lotuspsychje  :?04:50
lotuspsychjeWixy: then search for dash-to-dock and click action04:50
lotuspsychje!discuss | gofio sure04:50
ubottugofio sure: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!04:50
gofiothanks ubottu04:51
gofiogotta love those bots04:51
Wixylotuspsychje, I don't think any of the alternatives help04:53
Wixyskip, minimize, launch, cycle-windows, minimize-or-overview, previews (that's the default) or quit04:54
lotuspsychjeWixy: did you try cycle windows?04:54
Wixyyes04:54
Wixyit's even worse than before. if you have 5 windows you need to click 5 times to get the correct one in worst case scenario04:55
lotuspsychjeWixy: there's also alt+TAB to switch stuff04:56
Wixyand 2-3 times in avg scenario04:56
Wixyyeah, I know, and that is also grouped by application -.-04:56
Wixyexact same problem04:56
lotuspsychjeWixy: yeah it isnt exactly unity style but..04:57
Wixymaybe I should change desktop env?04:57
lotuspsychjeWixy: unity can still be installed if you like04:57
Wixyunity does the same doesn't it?04:57
lotuspsychjeWixy: think unity uses better overview on right mouse click on the icon04:59
lotuspsychjeWixy: also the gnome 'activities' button shows all your open windows05:00
Wixythat's all suboptimal if windows changes positions and the content is not clear only looking at the preview. for IDEs for instance I have a hard time when more than one window is open05:02
WixyI'll try dash-to-panel, based on this answer https://askubuntu.com/questions/1081658/disable-window-grouping-in-dock-on-ubuntu-17-10-18-0405:02
lotuspsychjeWixy: to work organized i use all 4 workspaces05:03
lotuspsychjeWixy: if you open 4 terminals on 1 workspace, you can do alot of work already right05:17
lotuspsychjeWixy: then clicking the terminal icon, transfers you to the right workspace05:18
Wixyoh really? dast-to-panel is better than docks, for me at least. but it lacks some configs docks has :(05:31
WixyI think I'm changing desktop environment...05:31
lotuspsychjeWixy: there is also docky if you like05:32
Wixylet me see05:32
lotuspsychjeWixy: been playing with it in the past05:32
Wixythe main issue with dash-to-panel is I couldn't find how to remove the title from the icons, so they're no icons but large... buttons with text05:33
Wixyand that it doesn't appear on both monitors, only one monitor is supported05:33
Wixydash-to-dock support not having titles and dual monitor05:34
Wixybut not ungroup windows05:34
Wixycome on!05:34
lotuspsychjeWixy: perhaps you can create a bug wishlist?05:34
lotuspsychjeWixy: seems like something usefull to add as feature05:34
WixyI'll be changing env before that bug wishlist is addressed, but yeah I would probably :P05:35
lotuspsychjeWixy: you create and ill add affected too05:35
Wixydo you know anything like what I'm looking for?05:35
Wixyprobably on kde?05:35
lotuspsychjeWixy: maybe there are some tiling packages that could do the trick, but never really used those05:36
Wixyungrouped windows, only icons and dual monitor seems to be the 3 key features I'm looking for05:36
lotuspsychjehmm05:36
Wixyonly icons is not a must-have actually, ungrouped windows and dual monitor are05:36
WixyI'm trying docky now05:37
Wixydefinitely not docky, it fails at both must-have features05:39
lotuspsychjeWixy: havent used it in a while05:40
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Wixylotuspsychje, ok, I couldn't make it work, I'm back to dash to dock... now configuring workspaces. is there a way to isolate windows into workspaces?06:13
Wixyalt+tab on one workspace shows all windows in all workspaces06:13
lotuspsychjeWixy: dont think there's a hack for that06:13
Wixyso what's the point of having workspaces?06:14
lotuspsychjeWixy: with gnome-tweak-tool you can define workspaces on main screen, or alls creens06:15
Wixywell, there's a point of course, but...06:15
lotuspsychjeWixy: if you use 4 workspaces, and keep programs divided on same workspace, you can work organized06:15
Wixyalso on docks I see windows from all workspaces06:15
Wixygosh, I've been using Linux for +15 years now but these moderns desktop environments are so annoying!06:16
lotuspsychjeWixy: i also use super+page down switching workspaces06:17
cfhowletteasy enough to set it to a single desktop window ...06:17
Wixycfhowlett, what do you mean?06:17
cfhowlettif you prefer, you can have a single workspace rather than multiples06:18
lotuspsychjeWixy: 4 terminals workspace1 4 firefox workspace2 etc06:18
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: he's looking to ungroup his windows06:18
Wixyactually that's all I wanted ^06:18
cfhowlettd'oh!06:18
cfhowlett!me goes back to <lurk> mode06:18
ubottucfhowlett: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:18
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: and im out of ideas06:19
Wixybut it's impossible in dash-to-docks, so I switched to dash-to-panels, but it'll only appear in one window, then docky, but it sucks... where is the normal stuff? :P06:19
lotuspsychjeWixy: create the wishlist bug :p06:19
slingamni'm using 18.04 and i have a lot of [UFW BLOCK] spam in dmesg06:20
slingamni am not concerned at all about brute-force attacks06:20
slingamnwhat's the right way to disable this functionality in ufw?06:20
cfhowlettslingamn, you mean kill ufw altogether?06:21
slingamner, sorry, i just want to disable everything related to rate limiting06:21
slingamnbut keep the basic allow/deny rules06:21
slingamnoh, hmm06:21
slingamnthese are all [UFW BLOCK], not [UFW LIMIT BLOCK]06:21
WixyI'm done, I'm installing kde and/or xfce. gnome totally missed the point imho -.-06:22
slingamnso i guess i just want to suppress all of this logging...should i just delete those lines from /etc/ufw/user.rules ?06:23
lotuspsychjeslingamn: perhaps the #netfilter channel know06:25
slingamnyeah, could be06:25
slingamni commented out the lines that appeared to be logging-related and did a `systemctl restart ufw.service`, the firewall rules are still in effect06:27
slingamnso that's probably fine06:27
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Wixylotuspsychje, still around?07:26
lotuspsychjeyes07:27
AndyChow888Hello lotuspsychje07:28
WixyI'm back just to say KDE was the answer to my current and future problems. seriously, it's much more better. it supports dual monitor, ungrouping (application based, which is much better), windows are isolated by workspace, etc07:28
lotuspsychjeWixy: glad you sorted it!07:29
lotuspsychjehi AndyChow88807:29
qwebirc8980Hello, I'm in need of help. I have an Asus X470-Gaming Plus motherboard with a Ryzen 2700, trying to fresh install 18.10 and am encountering issues with xhci/mmio. ERROR Transfer event for unknown stream ring slot 1 ep 2 it takes about 5 minutes for the usb de to load. I was able to get it installed after an hour or so of waiting for the timeouts to take place. I attempted using the 4.18 latest kernel while this appeared to chan07:41
qwebirc8980https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cwKxCzwmRF/ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K94HNgVHFr/07:54
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jnorhep! so I install the pkg php-fpm and php-cli.. trying to rollout some simple app and getting "requires the PHP extension 'dom' to run".. what pkg do I need to install to be able to enable this extension?08:32
jnorahhh php-dom lol okay :-D08:33
lotuspsychje!info php7.2-xml | jnor this what you need?08:33
ubottujnor this what you need?: php7.2-xml (source: php7.2): DOM, SimpleXML, WDDX, XML, and XSL module for PHP. In component main, is optional. Version 7.2.10-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 110 kB, installed size 421 kB08:34
jnorthank yeah08:40
cfhowlett!ping08:51
ubottupong!08:51
Nexilva##linux is a full of retards. I hope #ubuntu is not.08:51
NexilvaThat's okay though. Sauvin is old. He'll die soon.08:53
NexilvaJust a few more years. :)08:53
NexilvaMost of them are old and senile. Will die soon.Np.08:54
lotuspsychjeNexilva: do you have an ubuntu question?08:54
NexilvaYes. While I do, I'm just waiting for these old idiots to die.08:54
lotuspsychjeNexilva: please focus on ubuntu issues only here, this is not a regular chat08:55
NexilvaI had an ubuntu issue which was made worse by a linux op named sauvin08:56
Nexilvalotuspsychje: please tell me more.08:56
lotuspsychjeNexilva: come to ubuntu-discuss08:57
NexilvaNo thank you. I don't like to join more channels.08:57
lotuspsychjeNexilva: then please dont use this one, for chitchat08:57
NexilvaFeel free to stop making me talk anytime.08:58
NexilvaNo one's asking you to hold a conversation with me.08:58
peanutbutter144i recently upgraded to ubuntu 18.10 from ubuntu 18.04 and i don't like the new theme. how do i change it back?09:09
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: install gnome-tweak-tool to manage your themes easy09:25
peanutbutter144lotuspsychje: thanks, but it still doesn't look like it did, the top panel and dock are the wrong colour. how do i change those back to what they looked like in 18.04?09:29
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: what is the theme you selcted?09:30
peanutbutter144lotuspsychje: https://i.imgur.com/q8D8ZOk.png09:31
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: yes, that should be the theme for bionic09:33
peanutbutter144lotuspsychje: it still doesn't look the same09:33
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: have you tryed enabling other themes as a test? see if it influences09:34
peanutbutter144lotuspsychje: there is only one shell theme available, it's called "Default"09:37
peanutbutter144i think that's what changes what the dock and top bar look like09:37
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: that might be baked in 18.1009:41
peanutbutter144lotuspsychje: here's a screenshot of the system menu thing, you can see it still uses the yaru theme because of the blue sliders https://imgur.com/NFeA08S09:41
peanutbutter144is there really no way to change it back?09:42
peanutbutter144the new theme is just too flat for me, i don't want to have to use outdated software so that i can have the full ambiance theme...09:42
peanutbutter144sorry the proper image link is here https://i.imgur.com/NFeA08S.png09:44
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: im looking into dconf-editor but i dont see values for top bar09:46
peanutbutter144lotuspsychje: i remember installing a snap to try out the yaru theme in ubuntu 18.04, is there a package i can install to get the old theme in 18.10?09:47
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: thats the community theme snap, i dont think theres a default snap/package to revert no09:47
peanutbutter144lotuspsychje: ok :(09:48
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: you could add a new !bug if you like09:49
lotuspsychje!info light-themes | peanutbutter144 or try this?09:50
ubottupeanutbutter144 or try this?: light-themes (source: ubuntu-themes): Light Themes (Ambiance and Radiance). In component main, is optional. Version 16.10+18.04.20181005-0ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 447 kB, installed size 17243 kB09:50
lotuspsychjesays installed here on bionic peanutbutter14409:51
peanutbutter144light-themes is already installed on my computer09:51
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: yeah thats what i was thinking..09:52
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: i would consider a bug, mentioning you cant revert to proper ambiance even with light-themes installed09:52
ducassepeanutbutter144: themes sometimes evolve and change between releases, the old look might no longer be available09:52
peanutbutter144ducasse: i understand, but the old shell theme must be available from somewhere, right?09:53
peanutbutter144even if it's unofficial09:53
ducassewhy must it?09:54
peanutbutter144well i assume it's available on the ubuntu bionic repositories09:54
peanutbutter144maybe i could download a .deb from there and install it manually?09:54
ducasseyes, but that is not guaranteed to work on cosmic09:54
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: mixing package versions across different ubuntu versions isnt a great idea neither09:55
peanutbutter144lotuspsychje: yeah but it's only a theme, not a critical system component09:55
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: the default theme on bionic is ambiance, wich is in light-themes09:56
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: as ducasse says, new ubuntu versions bake new styles in09:56
peanutbutter144lotuspsychje: ok, i guess i'll just have to live with the new theme09:58
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: you dont have other DE's installed that could interfere?09:58
peanutbutter144no, i only use the default desktop09:58
lotuspsychjekk09:58
peanutbutter144are there any other shell themes that have a similar style to ambiance that i could install?09:58
ducassepeanutbutter144: you could try to get the theme from bionic, but it's not something we support09:59
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: if nobody files a bug, next release might have same issue still09:59
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: if you like to see a feature next release, consider a wishlist bug?09:59
peanutbutter144lotuspsychje: that might be a good idea10:00
peanutbutter144how do i file a wishlist bug?10:00
Ben64i made my own theme10:00
Ben64took some time but you could do it too10:00
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: ubuntu-bug gnome-shell10:00
peanutbutter144lotuspsychje: thanks10:00
lotuspsychjepeanutbutter144: feel free to share the bug url after, we can help affect10:01
Ben64also there's gtk3 themes and gtk2 themes and themes that have both, so you might have to mix and match bits to get what you want10:01
peanutbutter144here's the bug link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/180623410:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1806234 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "no way to switch back to bionic shell theme" [Undecided,New]10:13
MoehHi! I want to run a python script during boot and from googling / stack overflow I see a couple different ways to do that: create service in /etc/init.d/, adding line to /etc/rc.local, adding it to the crontab with "@reboot". What would be the recommended way in my case?10:30
Moeh(it is a ubuntu server, no gui)10:31
vltMoeh: If I just wanted to run it without any supervision I’d add a "@reboot" crontab.10:50
MadLambI'm having some charging/performance issues on my ubuntu. The battery indicator keeps alternating between charging/not charging and my CPU keeps getting throttled. Thinkpad 440p, Ubuntu 18.10. Any ideas?10:50
Kali_Yugahello apparently I messed up my boot partition :(... I have to remove ubuntu for now. if I install windows boot loader I only get an "Boot Agent" until I reinstall grub with boot repair. my problem now is I have 2 windows partitions showing up in grub in sda1 and sda5?? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S6MF86QVjV/ how do I fix my boot record restore windows for now?10:54
Moehvlt: thx! I also want to make sure that it is always running, so my idea is that I add two entries, one with "@reboot" and one which uses flock to attempt to re-run it every minute (and does nothing if it is already running). Does that make sense?10:55
MathisenKali_Yuga, if you want to fix just windows bring it to ##windows10:56
lotuspsychjeMadLamb: did you check if your bios is up to date?10:57
MadLamblotuspsychje, no10:57
lotuspsychjeMadLamb: on those thinkpads we have a lot of users with acpi issues10:58
lotuspsychjeMadLamb: did you notice the same issues on LTS?10:58
lotuspsychje!info laptop-mode-tools | MadLamb see also10:59
ubottuMadLamb see also: laptop-mode-tools (source: laptop-mode-tools): Tools for Power Savings based on battery/AC status. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.71-2ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 83 kB, installed size 378 kB10:59
MadLamblotuspsychje, yes, I was on LTS until last week and I was getting this annoying clicking noise10:59
MadLamblotuspsychje, same thing, battery  indicator going crazy10:59
MadLamblotuspsychje, my bios version is 1.14, latest one is 2.5111:00
MadLamblmao11:00
Kali_Yugaokay but why do I have 2 Windows boot partitions now in grub after using boot-repair?11:01
lotuspsychjeMadLamb: doublecheck also your software-centre sometimes there are firmware updates11:01
MadLamblotuspsychje, that is fine11:02
MadLamblotuspsychje, sadly lenovo only offering .exe files to update bios11:03
lotuspsychjeMadLamb: does fwupdate -l gives you something?11:05
lotuspsychjeMadLamb: check how they extract the exe's here: https://medium.com/@BladeCoder/flash-your-lenovo-ideapad-laptop-bios-from-linux-using-uefi-capsule-updates-a82e455ea29c11:06
lotuspsychjeMadLamb: keep in mind playing with firmwares 'can' brick your device, so before proceeding read the manuals for your device11:09
Kali_Yugacan I remove the second boot partition in grub somehow?11:09
vltMoeh: If I in fact wanted something that not just runs once I’d use systemd.11:10
MadLamblotuspsychje, fwupdate -l gives empty output11:10
lotuspsychjeMadLamb: ok tnx11:10
lotuspsychjeMadLamb: seems like we cant get your firmware tru fwupdate11:11
lotuspsychjeMadLamb: this tutorial describes to make an usb for firmware: https://www.devopsderek.com/blog/2017/10/15/updating-thinkpad-firmware-with-linux/11:11
MadLamblotuspsychje, I have the usb stick ready already11:13
MadLamblotuspsychje, wish me luck :D11:13
lotuspsychjeMadLamb: good luck!11:13
MadLambbrb11:13
Moehvlt: thx! Will have a look into it. You don't think it is overkill for a simple python script?11:16
TheMesquitoP11:27
MadLamblotuspsychje, bios  update went well11:33
MadLamblotuspsychje, lscpu | grep MHz -> CPU MHz:             798.155, CPU max MHz:         3100,0000, CPU min MHz:         800,000011:33
MadLamblotuspsychje, the CPU Mhz keeps oscillating between ~800 and ~2300 together with the battery indicator11:37
leonardusVLC crashes when I try to play a video. Anyone know how to fix?11:59
leonardusHere is the log https://pastebin.com/3gAvcRgT11:59
leonardusHere is the terminal output https://pastebin.com/K6WdbTht11:59
lotuspsychjeMadLamb: can you pastebin your syslog please12:09
lotuspsychjeleonardus: wich ubuntu version are you on?12:10
leonardus18.1012:10
leonardusThis problem started after I got a new graphics card and installed AMD's drivers from their website12:11
lotuspsychjeleonardus: i presume you have amdgpu installed12:11
leonardusYes12:11
lotuspsychjeleonardus: check the dri option here: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux12:12
leonarduslotuspsychje: Do I need to add the PPA?12:12
lotuspsychjeleonardus: lets try the dri options only first, as your logs spit out dri issues12:13
leonardusOk12:13
leonardusthere is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf on my system12:13
lotuspsychjeleonardus: how about here: xorg: /usr/lib/xorg /usr/include/xorg12:14
leonardusyeah, no xorg.conf in any of those either12:15
lotuspsychjeleonardus: are you sure amdgpu loaded correctly? sudo lshw -C video, at bottom driver= should mention12:17
leonarduslotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/hdKQHsMn12:18
lotuspsychjeleonardus: yep looks good12:18
leonardusI ran `sudo find / -name "xorg.conf"`12:19
leonardusthe only result was: /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-intel/xorg.conf12:19
RonaldsMazitishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/180487412:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1804874 in linux (Ubuntu) "can't reconnect USB mouse/ USB mouse stops working after a while" [Medium,Incomplete]12:28
RonaldsMazitisso I have this problem12:28
RonaldsMazitiswith mouse12:28
RonaldsMazitisI installed mainline kernel12:28
RonaldsMazitisthis morning woke up with disk errors12:28
RonaldsMazitisand was thrown in initramfs12:29
RonaldsMazitissomehow fixed errors12:29
lotuspsychjeleonardus: not sure why its not there for you12:30
BluesKajHi folks12:31
IarlaAnybody know how to ensure USB 2 is working in a Win XP guest on Virtualbox?12:46
MathisenIarla, https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usb_devices_view.html12:48
MathisenIarla, or just use wmic command in cmd. dont know syntax doh12:49
IarlaThanks Mathisen, I haven't come across these before.12:49
Mixxithey guys12:58
Mixxiti have a ubuntu server box setup but i had to do it with a massive cable running across my house to the router12:59
Mixxitits terminal only and im wondering can i make this machine wifi only that auto logs in on bootup?12:59
Mixxiti saw this guide but https://askubuntu.com/questions/909477/installing-ubuntu-server-on-laptop-cant-recognize-wifi-card13:01
Mixxiti think its using the old networking stack13:01
Mixxitas i don thave ifconfig and stuff13:01
Mixxiti have enp6s0 etc for my lan13:01
Mixxitso i have got so far as installing wpasupplicant and adding the config but now im not sure on the next step13:01
MathisenMixxit, pastebin the config you talking abut13:03
Mathisenabout*13:03
Mathisenim assuming it is /etc/network/interfaces ?13:03
Mixxitno i dont have that13:04
Mixxitits using the new network setup13:04
Mixxitsomeone helped me before in here but i cant remember where he said it was13:04
Mixxiti think it was in some .d folder? perhaps something to do with systemd?13:04
Mixxitits all confusing this new stuff hehe13:04
Mathisenok pastebin the config anyway13:05
Mixxitwhich config?13:05
Mixxithttps://pastebin.com/A0CiFjYS13:05
Mixxitthis is ip address13:05
Mathisenthe on you talking about " and adding the config but now im... "13:05
Mixxitthats my ethernet enp6so13:05
Mixxitso im expecting to see a second one for my wifi adapter13:05
Mixxitbut i dont know where the network settings have moved to to add a new adapter13:06
Mathisenip link ?13:06
Mathisenif you want to know name of you wifi adapter13:06
Mixxitoh wait i think i remeber it was called netplan13:07
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Mixxithttps://pastebin.com/9DSP4xs613:07
Mixxitthis is my ethernet adapter13:07
Mixxitthis is iplink: https://pastebin.com/3JdpFS8F13:07
Mixxitno wifi showing there13:07
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Mathisenoh you dont even have your wifi listed there13:08
Mixxitthi sis my lspci13:08
Mixxithttps://pastebin.com/SDQbNSDd13:08
Mathiseni dont see any wifi card there or am i blind13:09
Mixxitoh one sec maybe i unplugged13:09
kk4ewtlsusb13:09
Mixxithttps://pastebin.com/SVjEPyMw13:10
Mixxitoh yay it shows on iplink13:10
Mixxitnoop state DOWN13:10
Mixxithttps://pastebin.com/Af2mW4hi13:11
Mixxitmy wpa supplicant config: https://pastebin.com/rs3n1UJ813:11
Mathisenso far so good13:13
Mixxitso i guess do i make a netplan thing?13:13
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Mixxitmaybe add it to the ethernets tree?13:14
Mathiseni dont know what netplan is.. someone else need to answer that13:14
Mathisenyour configuration looks ok so far atleast13:14
Mixxitok well ill hve a google now i remembered where its stored13:14
Mixxitoh cool looks like there is a wireless tree in netplan config13:16
Mixxitmaybe i dont need wpasupplicant then13:16
Mixxithttps://pastebin.com/g8hN0Cek13:17
Mathisenyou do want wpasupplicant.. but whatever netplan is nope13:18
Mathisenthis should work fine for you https://www.linuxbabe.com/command-line/ubuntu-server-16-04-wifi-wpa-supplicant13:18
Mathisengo from step3 and forward13:19
Mixxitthanks13:19
RonaldsMazitishttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CFDww2yTJR/13:23
RonaldsMazitisso no mouse is connected?13:23
RonaldsMazitisI hate restarting pc just to connect mouse13:23
RonaldsMazitiswhy the hell it takes restart for ubuntu to connect mouse13:23
Mixxitps2?13:24
RonaldsMazitiswut13:26
MathisenRonaldsMazitis, if it is a ps2 mouse as Mixxit asked a reboot is usaly needed, if usb it should work strait away13:27
RonaldsMazitishttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yNQWndgPH7/13:28
RonaldsMazitisUSB13:28
RonaldsMazitismouse13:28
RonaldsMazitisthis is what last happened in cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log13:28
RonaldsMazitisit just removes device13:28
RonaldsMazitisand that's it13:28
RonaldsMazitiswhy ubuntu does not connect13:28
JC_Yangneed to install kernel debug symbols, but can't locate linux-image-4.4.0-139.generic-dbgsym package, what's wrong?13:31
JC_Yangmy bad, typo in my question, the package name is linux-image-4.4.0-139-generic-dbgsym13:32
Mixxitok all sorted guys thanks13:36
Mixxithave a great weekend!13:36
Mixxit(for anyone reading irc logs i just added the config into teh wpa supplicant file and did netplan generate netplan update)13:36
Intelohttps://imgur.com/a/sS094YU the ram is full. That means, cpu is limiting in performance? Should I enable swap ?13:38
blackflowIntelo: where do you see RAM in that picture13:39
Intelo16g13:40
Inteloblackflow, 3rd last13:40
blackflowIntelo: that's not a proper measure. See what  "free -m" on command line says. Also read  https://www.linuxatemyram.com/13:42
Inteloblackflow, https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/wzNmNxYV7T/13:44
blackflowIntelo: you've got 3G available from 16G total. That's plenty13:45
Inteloblackflow,  so buff/cache should not be counted?13:46
Inteloblackflow,  what is buff/cache?13:46
blackflowIntelo: however, always having a few Gs for swap is a good thing. there's always _some_ application memory that's not used (especially with modern bloatware softwares), and that will be swapped out.13:46
blackflowIntelo: the "available" column is all you need to know how much memory is ready to be used if an application needs it.13:46
blackflowIntelo: read that link for explanation13:46
Inteloblackflow,  won't swap hit performance13:48
Inteloand wear ssd13:48
blackflowno. swapping out unused pages is good. swap storm caused by lack of ram is not good.13:49
Inteloblackflow,  for 16 g ram, how much swap should / could be used for optimal performance13:50
Inteloand non wearing of ssd13:50
blackflowI'd give it 2G13:50
Intelook so swap size be 2g and all of it could be used?13:50
blackflowmodern SSDs won't wear out so easily. they have very good wear leveling algos. you'd need to be churning out hundreds of GB per month to have it worn out in years to come13:51
blackflowIntelo: that really depends on your use case. in my experience, 2G is "about enough" for some average desktop use13:52
blackflowand if you're worried about SSD wear, you can monitor "LBAs written" SMART attribute, or whatever the name is for your model, with smartmontools. Modern SSDs are rated for tens and hundreds of TBs for their lifetime13:53
lotuspsychjeleonardus: got out of your issue yet?13:54
leonardusno13:54
leonardusI think the problem is that I still have some old nvidia drivers installed13:55
leonardusbut I'm still not entirely sure13:55
lotuspsychjeleonardus: but you have an amd card?13:55
leonardusYeah I used to have a 750Ti and I just upgraded to an RX 58013:55
blackflowIntelo: btw, use a swapfile, and not a partition, that way you can re-create a larger one, should 2G swap prove insufficient (which I doubt)13:56
lotuspsychjeleonardus: maybe you should purge all, and start over the amdgpu install, from that link i gave you13:56
leonarduslotuspsychje: this?: sudo apt-get remove --purge '^nvidia-.*'13:57
lotuspsychjeleonardus: if you think you still have nvidia, yes sudo apt purge nvidia*13:57
lotuspsychjeleonardus: but also the amdgpu drivers, and reinstall those too, perhaps itl create a new xorg13:58
Inteloblackflow,  how to check where is my swap13:59
Inteloblackflow,  looks like /swapfile                                 none            swap is a file14:01
blackflowyeah that'd be the default14:01
Intelook14:01
Inteloblackflow,  wondering if I have 4 ram slots, 8gx2 slots filled. I can just buy one more 8g and make it 8gx3 slots? Some people say "always have even slots filled"14:04
Mixxitok so now i have to do netplan apply everytime i boot14:05
Mixxitelse wifi hasnt started14:06
Mixxit:(14:06
blackflowI'm not really familiar wiht memory slotting that much, to answer that. All I know is, it's not as intuitive as one would think. For example   https://superuser.com/questions/110031/is-it-faster-to-have-four-times-2-gb-or-two-times-4-gb-of-ram-with-a-dual-channe14:06
blackflowIntelo: ^^^14:06
LUCKeRHi, isn't /launchpad.net supposde to provide the code of the PPA?14:06
MathisenMixxit, as why i linked you to a simple way that just set upp a service on boot with just wpasupplicant14:06
LUCKeRI'm having troubles with firejail14:07
Inteloblackflow, ok14:07
lotuspsychjeLUCKeR: you can install firejail right from the official repos if you want14:08
leonarduslotuspsychje: Yeah video playback still isn't working14:12
lotuspsychjeleonardus: did you add that dri stuff to xorg?14:12
leonardusthere's still no xorg.conf there14:13
lotuspsychjeodd14:13
leonarduslotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/b3Zck0We14:13
KaiXXLAre you allowed to post a link? I'm having troubles with a PPA.14:14
Foorackdo I need both core and core18 snaps?14:15
lotuspsychjeleonardus: try adding dri to: 00-amdgpu.conf14:18
lotuspsychjeleonardus: Option "DRI" "3"14:19
leonarduslotuspsychje: I've modified it according to the article and it looks like this now https://pastebin.com/AR40CpP014:20
leonardusshould it be something different?14:20
lotuspsychjeleonardus: looks good14:21
leonardusgreat, I'll reboot now14:21
lotuspsychjeleonardus: gl14:21
lotuspsychjeKaiXXL: we dont really support external ppa's here, whats your issue exactly?14:24
leonarduslotuspsychje: I've rebooted and it still crashes. This is in the xorg log though, it says it's using DRI3 (line 295): https://pastebin.com/pEykbLBa14:25
lotuspsychjeleonardus: can you see if vlc spits out the same dri errors now?14:26
KaiXXLlotuspsychje https://launchpad.net/~deki/+archive/ubuntu/firejail no PPA code?14:26
lotuspsychjeKaiXXL: you can install firejail right from the official ubuntu repos if you like14:27
leonarduslotuspsychje: It just says "segmentation fault" now. 1 sec, I'll upload the vlc log14:27
leonardushttps://pastebin.com/41NxL6zz14:28
KaiXXLlotuspsychje thanks, but it's a way older version?14:28
leonardusand here's the terminal log: https://pastebin.com/jRJy6AqY14:28
lotuspsychje!latest | KaiXXL14:28
ubottuKaiXXL: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.14:28
lotuspsychjeleonardus: is this the snap vlc or the apt vlc?14:28
leonardusPretty sure it's apt. How do I make sure, though?14:29
BluesKajKaiXXL,  newest isn't always best14:29
lotuspsychjeleonardus: apt-cache policy vlc14:29
leonardushttps://pastebin.com/2VuSi77F14:29
KaiXXLBluesKaj, true but it's lacking the lts release14:30
lotuspsychjeleonardus: didnt you say you was on cosmic?14:30
TheMesquitoPersonally if you want the most current packages you should use a rolling releases distro14:30
leonardusYeah I'm on 18.1014:30
lotuspsychjeleonardus: then your vlc evrsion should be:  Version 3.0.4-2build1 (cosmic)14:31
KaiXXLubottu, thanks14:31
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)14:31
leonardusoh, I could swear I was on 18.1014:31
lotuspsychjeleonardus: lsb_release -a14:32
leonardusDescription:Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS14:32
leonardusguess I was wrong14:32
Mixxitok so i attempted that guide Mathisen14:32
lotuspsychjeleonardus: no sweat14:32
Mixxitbut i get authentication timeout14:32
lotuspsychjeleonardus: anyway, seems like you have the apt version14:33
lotuspsychjeleonardus: does it crash on launch, or after playing a video?14:33
Mixxitto rule out the router, i have also made my phone into a hotspot and tried to connect with that14:36
Mixxitbut i still get the SME: Trying to authenticate with MAC (SSID=... etc14:36
BluesKajKaiXXL, is this the version you want?  https://firejail.wordpress.com/download-2/release-notes/14:40
MixxitMathisen i think its the card so ill go grab another :-)14:41
KaiXXLBluesKaj, yes 0.9.56-LTS14:41
BluesKajtry githib14:42
BluesKajgithub rather14:42
KaiXXLBluesKaj, here are dbes and the like but no PPA from what I've seen14:43
KaiXXL*there14:43
leonarduslotuspsychje: after playing a video14:44
piesquaredHow do I start a program, like a game, that needs a display in on an ubuntu server?14:44
leonarduspiesquared: you generally shouldn't be running a display on a server14:45
piesquaredBut, say, i want to afk on this game14:46
piesquaredim not gonna keep it up on my desktop.14:46
lotuspsychjeleonardus: are you on wayland or xorg?14:46
leonarduspretty sure Xorg14:46
piesquarediirc theres a way, but idk how it works14:47
lotuspsychjeleonardus: try purge vlc, remove the configs too and reinstall14:47
leonarduspiesquared: you can put it in a separate workspace, if you're using ubuntu with gnome14:47
piesquaredhuh?14:47
lotuspsychjeleonardus: and test another player too, like smplayer?14:47
leonarduspiesquared: what version of ubuntu are you using?14:47
piesquared14.x14:48
BluesKajKaiXXL, check this out https://launchpad.net/~deki/+archive/ubuntu/firejail14:48
piesquaredi have an outdated server.14:48
TheMesquitoI thought 14.04 was LTS untill this year14:49
leonardusYeah 14.x is reaching EOL, if it hasn't already14:49
TheMesquitoEr next year rather14:49
leonardusApril 2019 I think14:49
TheMesquitoIt's 5 years of support, so yeah14:49
TheMesquitoI assume when 19.04 shows up it will go EOL14:50
piesquared(im starting to think i have a 15 year old computer actually)14:50
piesquaredIts hosted for free remotely14:50
hans_what is the ext4 default relatime timeout where atime will be updated regardless of mtime?14:51
hans_(apparently it's distribution-specific, with Red Hat defaulting to 1 day)14:51
leonarduslotuspsychje: VLC does not work, but SMPlayer does14:51
leonardusmpv also works14:51
TheMesquitopiesquared: you should really check what version it is, esp if the server is connected to the internet, witch it obviously is since it's a remote machine14:52
piesquaredi think its like 14.714:53
piesquareddoes it matter?14:53
leonardusI don't think 14.7 exists14:53
TheMesquitoWell 14.7 is not a version14:54
piesquaredoh, lol, well idk then14:54
TheMesquitoIt's normally x.04 or x.1014:54
piesquaredis it prettymuch always safe to upgrade if you have a 15 year old server?14:55
piesquaredbut back to my original question...14:55
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piesquaredisnt there a software that can let you have a "display"?14:55
TheMesquitopiesquared: well it's important to know because an EOL OS is dangerous to run when it's Internet facing, since it will no longer have security updates14:56
leonardusI strongly advise against having a display on an internet-facing server, for security reasons14:56
piesquaredwell, ill take that risk.14:57
TheMesquitoI mean, you can run X on the server, but it's not recommend on anything Internet facing and really not at all14:57
hans_piesquared, cat /etc/*release* | pastebinit14:57
piesquaredX?14:57
hans_what? why would X give a damn about you running a server on the same system? (it doesn't care)14:57
hans_piesquared, X.org~14:58
piesquaredok, im just confused and out of time.14:58
piesquaredthanks.14:58
hans_leonardus, explain14:58
hans_why is a desktop (say, lxde-core? i run lxde-core on a few internet-facing servers) be a security issue?14:59
leonardusWidens the attack surface.14:59
leonardussee: https://it.slashdot.org/story/18/10/26/2112214/trivial-bug-in-xorg-server-gives-root-permissions-on-linux-bsd-systems14:59
blackflowthe problem is not in having a desktop per se, but if xorg or any other xorg applications, have any public facing ports open. in itself, xorg doesn't by default, so it's irrelevant in that aspect.15:01
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lotuspsychjeleonardus: what kind of video is that you try to play15:13
lotuspsychjeleonardus: your system up to date also?15:17
sappheirosi am not able to file a bug; please see #ubuntu-bugs; what should i do?15:23
lotuspsychjesappheiros: ubuntu-bug packagename15:24
lotuspsychjesappheiros: perhaps before filing the bug, as your issue to the channel, volunteers can take a look15:25
lotuspsychjeaks15:25
lotuspsychjeask15:25
sappheiroslotuspsychje: i already did that, and my error is in the final step of the process that initiates, i.e. completing the webform at launchpad.net15:28
sappheirosi asked here hoping someone would respond there, because i've already asked #ubuntu-bugs and no one has yet responded.15:28
sappheiros(i.e. maybe someone is here who is not looking at that channel at the moment, and my messages here would cause them to look at that other channel)15:29
lotuspsychjesappheiros: can you provide us some details, of what doesnt work exactly?15:29
sappheiroslotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/m4DypRhn38/15:32
BluesKajsappheiros, , that's not what we want to know , what's actually happening on your pc that you think needs debugging15:34
lotuspsychjesappheiros: try to clear your browsers cache, and try login back to launchpad15:34
sappheirosflash installed through Muon has 'Context3D not available' error at pogo.com15:35
sappheirostried to play chess at pogo.com; was told to install flash; installed 'flashplugin-installer' from Muon Package Manager (Discover freezes every time I try to use it) after closing firefox web browser; opened firefox went back to pogo.com now it says "Context3D not available! Possible reasons: wrong wmode or missing device support." when I enter the chess room: the frames of the right username list and chat load, but nothing else loads with that15:35
sappheiroserror message displayed instead in the center of the flash frame (i suppose it's called). help.ubuntu.com indicates this is a bug, because what Ubuntu purports to do -- install flash from the Muon Package Manager -- does not successfully install flash. I will try to uninstall this package from the Muon Package Manager and instead follow the Adobe Flash download link from pogo.com and try a manual install. (My hypothesis is that the Muon package is15:35
sappheirosoutdated.)15:35
sappheirosdid you get two messages just now, "flash installed ..." and a second "tried to play ... is outdated.)"?15:35
lotuspsychjesappheiros: your ubuntu version please?15:36
sappheiros18.10 (lubuntu i386)15:36
sappheirosi managed to submit it finally -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/180625215:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1806252 in firefox (Ubuntu) "flash installed through Muon has 'Context3D not available' error at pogo.com" [Undecided,New]15:37
lotuspsychjesappheiros: have you tryed installing lubuntu-restricted-extras15:38
sappheirosi don't remember. i have youtube, if that implies an answer15:38
lotuspsychjesappheiros: try to install, to see15:38
TheMesquitoYouTube has not used flash in years, they use HTML5 by default now15:39
sappheirosoh.15:39
sappheirosshould i uninstall that flashplugin-installer before installing lubuntu-restricted-extras?15:40
sappheirosi'm using the Muon Package Manager because Discover freezes every time i've tried using it15:40
lotuspsychjesappheiros: no, you can just try the restricted extras15:42
sappheirosdoes canonical make money from ubuntu by selling technical support?15:42
lotuspsychjesappheiros: cannonical does payed support also yes15:43
sappheirosi don't understand how a company making free software profits (financially)15:44
lotuspsychjesappheiros: you can discuss this in #ubuntu-discuss15:45
sappheirosi installed lubuntu-restricted-extras and there is no change to pogo.com chess's error message15:46
sappheiros(which is: Context3D not available! Possible reasons: wrong wmode or missing device support. )15:46
lotuspsychjesappheiros: ive tested your pogo chess, working here with flash15:47
sappheirosyou have 64-bit system, not 32-bit?15:47
lotuspsychjesappheiros: oh wait, its not, same 3D error15:47
lotuspsychjesappheiros: i think you need to file a bug against their website, not ubuntu15:48
sappheirosa page from 2 years ago suggests it is the flash install https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/111502215:48
lotuspsychjesappheiros: there must be some flaw in their code15:49
LantiziaAnyone have an old Ubuntu 10.04 (preferably 32-bit) official disc (in cardboard sleeve) - like what shipit.ubuntu.com used to send out... laying about the place?  perhaps I could buy?  just to add to my collection :D15:49
sappheiroshow do you know it is pogo's fault and not an outdated package in the Muon Package Manager?15:49
TJ-Lantizia: won't the ISO file do?15:49
LantiziaTJ-, it's a physical collection :)15:49
LantiziaISO's files are more like - a list :P15:50
lotuspsychjesappheiros: ive just tested it for you on 18.04.1 , same error15:50
TJ-Lantizia: you can write the ISO to a disc :)15:50
sappheiroslotuspsychje: is it not possible that the ubuntu developers have not updated their flash package since before 18.04.1?15:50
LantiziaTJ-, not the same :)15:50
TheMesquitoLantizia: If you can't find  find one, you could always make a clone :p15:50
TheMesquitoSeeing how 10.04 is so old, I don't think anyone would have the disk anymore15:51
BluesKajsappheiros, the discover gui can be buggy, suggest you install the original muon via the console, sudo apt install muon and use that instead of discover15:51
Lantiziayou'd be surprised - i recently bought 5.04 (32-bit) and 5.10 (64-bit) off ebay  - both official in-cardboard ship-it releases15:51
TJ-Lantizia: try ebay, I see some there15:52
sappheirosBluesKaj: what benefit does muon have over muon package manager?15:52
LantiziaTJ-, see above ^15:52
Lantiziai'm here because I've exhausted ebay lol15:52
lotuspsychjesappheiros: the flashplugin from the repos, seem pretty up to date to me, mentioning 2018 11 2015:52
BluesKajsappheiros, are you usin muon-discover just plain muon?15:52
BluesKajor15:52
sappheiroslotuspsychje: darn. :( should i just forget flash all together and play chess elsewhere? ... BluesKaj: which is from the start menu in bottom left corner?15:53
sappheirosi'm using the start menu's muon package manager15:53
TJ-Lantizia: you should email someone at Canonical; maybe they have some in a storage box somewhere :)15:53
Lantiziaessentially I'm after this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Ubuntu_10.04_CDs.jpg15:53
TheMesquitoContact someone at Canonical, maybe they have some in a dusty warehouse somewhere  :P15:54
LantiziaTJ-, that's an idea15:54
LantiziaTheMesquito, same - good idea :)15:54
sappheirosi will try chess.com15:54
lotuspsychjesappheiros: holdon, let me test on chromium15:54
Lantiziai'm making an insane box that quad boots (using an iSCSI HBA card) WinME, OS X 10.6, WinXP and finally Ubuntu 10.0415:55
BluesKajsappheiros, which Desktop Environment are you using?15:55
sappheiroslubuntu (qt?)15:55
sappheirosi think lubuntu 18.10 uses some qt thing15:55
BluesKajyup, irt's plain muon afaik15:55
LantiziaWinME for the 9x games, WinXP for the early NT-era games, OS X 10.6 for older macOS games (inc. PPC based ones as it still had rosetta)  and finally... Ubuntu 10.04 - the last version to still have OpenSoundSystem v3 - needed for many turn of the century linux games :)15:56
Lantiziaso it'd be nice to have all 4 OS's in their original discs on a shelf some place :)15:56
Lantizialuckily that's even possible for OS X 10.6 as that was the last to have physical media15:56
lotuspsychjesappheiros: works on chromium + pepperflash15:57
lotuspsychjesappheiros: i will add myself affected, and add experience15:58
sappheirosthank you15:58
sappheirosi am able to play the computer at chess.com and they say an account is free to play people, so it looks like chess.com > pogo.com for chess15:58
TJ-Lantizia: if you follow the 'form' link here you might be able to reach the correct people at Canonical. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ShipIt15:59
sappheirosis pepperflash an alternative to adobe flash?15:59
LantiziaTJ-, looks like it for LoCo teams - i got the form up but it says any requests from anyone else will be rejected16:01
lotuspsychjesappheiros: pepperflash you can install for chromium-browser16:01
Lantiziagot a few contacts for people at canonical over the years anyways16:01
Lantiziaif any of them still work there i'm sure they'll point me in the right direction16:01
TJ-Lantizia: yes, but all you need do is ask for a contact and explain what you're trying to do16:01
kostkonLantizia, both alsa and pulse can emulate oss if you 'ask' them to, though16:02
Lantiziakostkon, look at the authors at the top of the page... https://sourceforge.net/projects/osspd/16:03
lotuspsychjesappheiros: updated your bug16:03
kostkonLantizia, i rest my case16:04
Lantiziai mean I could run all 4 of these OS's in a VM - i can find work arounds for running all this software with hacks and tricks on a modern ubuntu (even the windows stuff, maybe not the mac stuff)16:04
Lantiziapoint is - sometimes it's nice to use real hardware with the reference OS16:05
Lantiziaand I'm itching to try these iSCSI HBA cards16:05
Lantiziai ought to be able to make the machine diskless - and snapshot the OS's at any point I like16:05
maksimaHello, I tried to install simula from source (cim v 3.37 but kept getting errors running anything "segmentation fault") is there any simula version I can install using package manager? I need that for university project.16:13
adrian_1908maksima: It even segfaults on the most basic program, yes? Never used Simula, just asking.16:16
maksimaadrian_1908: yes, even "hello world" does.16:17
adrian_1908maksima: no idea. I've heard of Simula before but judging by websearch, it seems to be of very low popularity these days (even in academia). Maybe try building the 5.1 version from https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/cim/ and see if that runs any better.16:25
maksimaadrian_1908: will try now..16:27
tellus83Hello, i don't know if this it the righet place for this but. I have 2 motherbord whit LAN Bypass .. One of them i found the memory adress to change the state of this in the doc of the motherbord. But not for the secund one. Is there a way to find it ?16:30
leonarduslotuspsychje: avi, mp416:33
maksimaalso failed.. simset.c:2:10: fatal error: ../../lib/cim.h: No such file or directory adrian_1908 ..16:33
lotuspsychjeleonardus: real weird, system up to date to latest also?16:34
TJ-maksima: it looks like there are some missing build dependencies16:34
adrian_1908maksima: when does that error occur, during `./configure`?16:35
maksimaadrian_1908: no, during 'make'16:35
leonarduslotuspsychje: I've run apt update && apt upgrade16:37
lotuspsychjeleonardus: allright mate, mets create a bug on it?16:38
TJ-maksima: look at the build log; it is /full/ of awful errors, undefined symbols. The code quality is abbismal16:38
lotuspsychjelets16:38
leonardusI'm not entirely sure that it's a bug16:38
hans_what is the latest version of samba available for 18.04?16:38
leonardusmaybe it's just something wrong with my system16:38
TJ-maksima: near the start for example, missing toupper symbol, because the file doesn't #include <ctype.h>16:38
lotuspsychje!latest | hans_16:38
ubottuhans_: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.16:38
lotuspsychjeleonardus: what do you suspect?16:39
leonarduslotuspsychje: driver issue maybe16:39
TJ-!info samba bionic | hans_16:39
ubottuhans_: samba (source: samba): SMB/CIFS file, print, and login server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 2:4.7.6+dfsg~ubuntu-0ubuntu2.5 (bionic), package size 872 kB, installed size 11109 kB16:39
lotuspsychjeleonardus: sudo lshw -C video ?16:39
hans_thanks. the info provided at https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/samba is incorrect16:39
lotuspsychje+2 points TJ-16:39
leonarduslotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/ZZrVRpJB16:39
hans_(namely, "samba is not available for 18.04")16:39
lotuspsychjeleonardus: seems active16:40
maksimaTJ-: you are right... the code quality is rubbish!16:40
adrian_1908TJ-: right. I think Simula is largely abandoned. It's weird, I could swear I heard of it on multiple occasions but it barely returns any search results (relatively speaking).16:40
TJ-hans_: packages.u.c site is currently broken due to broken generator scripts16:40
hans_that explains it16:40
lotuspsychjeleonardus: im pretty sure, vlc would work on a liveusb 18.04.116:40
maksimaTJ-: are there any simula compilers anywhere that work? adrian_190816:41
hans_lotuspsychje, been there done that can confirm16:41
TJ-maksima: there are SO many warnings-as-errors being reported I'm almost convinced they've changed the build system and not updated the source or instructions. There's only 1 file that includes ctype.h, and that is src/file.h which isn't included in other source files16:41
adrian_1908maksima: you need to work with it frequently, yes? Otherwise I'd just use an online compiler.16:42
TJ-maksima: no others that I'm aware of16:42
maksimaTJ-: adrian_1908 I will need it for the next 2 months..16:42
hans_!info 18.10 bionic16:46
ubottuPackage 18.10 does not exist in bionic16:46
hans_!info samba 18.1016:46
ubottu'18.10' is not a valid distribution: artful, artful-backports, artful-proposed, bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-16:46
hans_sorry16:47
adrian_1908exclamation-mark <package> bionic :)16:48
adrian_1908exclamation-markinfo that is16:48
TJ-maksima: it looks like it needs some env defines to include the correct headers16:49
senapshi all, i have installed danted and ocserv in ubuntu server 16.4, but i don't have any access to filtered websites i tried to bypass using danted or ocserv. but, i can connect to ocserv and then use my danted service!17:00
lotuspsychjesenaps: come join to #ubuntu-server please17:00
senapslotuspsychje, thanks. didn't know there was a channel for that.17:02
lotuspsychjesenaps: welcome17:02
maksimaTJ-: i am not very with C, but from your point of view, should I try making 5.1 code work or should I look for some other compilers ?17:03
TJ-maksima: I'm working through the source errors now, fixing them, if you can wait around a while17:12
maksimaTJ-: if you help with that, I would really appreciate it if you even push into github for other people too! :)17:14
maksimaTJ-: I will stand by..17:14
hellslingerI noticed that 18.04 automatically connected to my neighbor's iPhone over bluetooth, and I've never connected before. How do I prevent this from happening? This may have happened while my wireless was down for a short time17:23
BluesKajau17:25
BluesKajac17:25
BluesKajoops17:25
BluesKajhellslinger, no pw proection maybe17:26
hellslingerBluesKaj: right, but I don't want my machine to connect to his phone just because his phone doesn't have pw... is that what you mean?17:27
BluesKajyup17:27
hellslingerright, that doesn't seem like secure behavior, and it seems like there should be a way of disabling that. It's also rude for my machine to do that17:28
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BluesKajthink your neighbor's Iphone is jailbroken17:36
BluesKajbbl17:42
SimonNLhellslinger: type hciconfig --help in terminal ( install hciconfig if needed)  there is a block option in it17:45
SimonNLhellslinger: block by mac17:45
inquisitiv3It seems that the Ubuntu Package Search cant find any packages. Is it just me or are you people also having this problem?18:04
inquisitiv3https://packages.ubuntu.com/18:04
OerHeksthere are 2 search windows, with a lot of options18:07
inquisitiv3I try to search packages by writing their name in the textbox below the heading "Search package directories".18:11
inquisitiv3No matches, regardless what I search for.18:11
inquisitiv3And I've tested "firefox" and "openjdk".18:11
coconutinquisitiv3: it's true, it only find packaged under Trusty or ALL.18:14
coconut*packages18:15
TJ-maksima: Who told you you need to use this? It is so full of fundamental breakage whoever wrote and published it should be sent to Antarctica!18:16
OerHeksif you use the 2nd window, packages that *contain* files whose names contain the keyword > https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=openjdk&mode=filename&suite=cosmic&arch=any18:16
inquisitiv3coconut: Do you know of a place there one can check if Canonical already know about the problem?18:16
OerHeksand then there is cosmic-updates, and so on18:16
OerHeksi agree, not that easy tool, but for advanced users pretty helpfull18:17
TJ-inquisitiv3: packages.u.c generating scripts are currently broken. Use "apt-file" to search locally instead18:19
OerHeksoh, it works here..18:19
TJ-inquisitiv3: "sudo apt install apt-file; sudo apt-file update; apt-file search '*path/to/file/fragment*' "18:19
inquisitiv3TJ-: Thanks for the info! The reason I tried the website is because I'm currently on a Debian system.18:21
RonWhoCaresHow do I configure a second ip address on my Ubuntu Desktop 18.04, using the same network and netmask as the server?  In other words my IP address is 192.168.0.81 .  I also need it to connect with a server that uses IP addresses that are 10.#.#.# ?18:21
RonWhoCares(In other words 2 IP addresses total)18:22
ioriainquisitiv3, use whohas18:23
jellyRonWhoCares has a single local physical network segment, but some machines have a 192.168.0.x/24 IP, and some have a 10.9.1.x/24 IP configured.  RonWhoCares wants to add a secondary 10.9.1.x/24 IP to the "my IP" machine ^ to be able to reach a 10.9.1.x/24 system18:27
RonWhoCaresjelly: I just found this: https://askubuntu.com/a/547300/453336   Is that what you are describing18:27
TJ-inquisitiv3: you could create an ubuntu container for it, that's what I do for searching in releases other than the host is running18:28
jellyRonWhoCares: ip address add ... commands are appropriate but low level and their result is temporary, lost after reboot.18:29
coconutinquisitiv3: nope i don't know whether canonical already knows...  but i estimate it's a problem for more than a week now. So i guess they do.18:29
jellyRonWhoCares: /etc/network/interfaces is probably NOT the optimal place to store permanent config on 18.0418:29
RonWhoCaresjelly: Bullet 2 is for permanent18:30
inquisitiv3TJ-, coconut: Thanks for the help and tips!18:30
jellyRonWhoCares: and it's not explicitely said to work on 18.0418:30
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TJ-maksima: I think you can consider GNU cim-3.37 and cim-5.1 as write-offs - they are so broken it is not worth wasting time on them. You should make some loud complaints to anyone that tells you to use it18:34
RonWhoCaresjelly: What I added didn't work :/18:35
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sircleWhat could be wrong with ssh https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nvP3f2bHD2/18:46
RonWhoCaresjelly: I've just posted my question on askubuntu.com18:47
TJ-RonWhoCares: if you're using desktop then Network Manager looks after such things, so you need to open the nmapplet in the notifcation area, choose "Edit Connection..." then choose the connection, goto the IPv4 tab, and add the additional details there18:48
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kreyrenTJ-: i was able to solve the issue with broken USB reciever by using virtualbox + windows 10 + Logitech Gaming Software which in it's root folder has firmware update for all supported headsets including firmware for USB reciever. I'm sharing this issue here since i still believe that ubuntu caused this issue with corrupted firmware on USB reciever. (Sorry for the long message)18:57
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ducassekreyren: iirc fwupd can update the firmware for the logitech unified receiver19:01
kreyrenducasse: This is not unified reciever its reciever for G533. Note that i'm sharing the solution in case this happends to other ppl19:03
ducassekreyren: ah, ok. i just mentioned it fyi, maybe it was relevant to your issue :)19:03
kreyrenducasse: There is unified software from Logitech, but it didn't detected it. Seems that unified is used for old headsets and mouses. o.o19:05
ducassekreyren: my logitech mouse uses it, it's a couple of years old19:06
kreyrenducasse: noted19:06
* mouses perks up19:07
spinningcathey19:13
spinningcatis there a program for making windows bootable in ubuntu?19:13
kreyrenspinningcat: bootable in ubuntu meaning like using virtual machine or making an ISO?19:14
TJ-kreyren:  are you able to reproduce Ubuntu corrupting the device ?19:15
spinningcatiso19:15
ducassespinningcat: there's something called woeusb, iirc19:16
kreyrenspinningcat: My course of action would be to format it into a right filesystem (like using gparted) and then extracting the windows iso (which is available from official website usually) using `dd`. Check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CreateIsoFromCDorDVD19:16
kreyrenspinningcat: i have also a good experience using rooted android phone and drivedroid or its alternative.19:17
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kreyrenTJ-: i wasn't but its my best bet assuming available info.19:18
kreyrenspinningcat: Got it? Ask if you need more info no question is stupid.19:18
spinningcatwoeusb sounds handy19:23
TheMesquitoIt works very well. I've only had one USB not boot while using it but that was bc of a faulty USB not woeusb19:25
Kazdaxwhere do i find the screen lock option in ubuntu ?19:27
sirclehttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nvP3f2bHD2/ ssh issue19:28
Kazdaxgot it19:29
phox_hi! My wifi used to work perfectly, then i ran a command i didnt understand and now it doesn't find any networks. How do i see if the driver is correctly installed and loaded?19:30
Mathisenphox_, what command did you run19:31
phox_Mathisen, i ran:  sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi-opt.conf <<< "options iwlwifi bt_coex_active=N"19:32
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Mathisenphox_, ok so open upp the file again and remove the added line19:34
Mathisensudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi-opt.conf19:34
phox_Mathisen, I mistakenly deleted it acctually, stupidly. I want to use a driver called "40-rtl8723be.conf" in that folder. Do i still need that iwlwifi-opt.conf?19:38
Mathiseni cant answer that. sorry19:40
Mathisensomeone else in here may know19:40
maksimaTJ-: I just hoped I can find a working Simula compiler.. I was told that v3.37 should work, but seems that was wrong..19:41
databitsdid anyone respond to my question ?19:55
databitsmy chat window closed out19:55
Mathisendatabits, just ask again19:56
databitsMy audio is going out if my login screen pops up.... so if I let it sit without touching it for a while.19:56
databitswhen I restart the computer it fixes the audio problem.19:56
databitsbut if the login screen pops up it goes out again. Does anyone know how I can fix this?19:57
Kazdaxlock screen ?19:57
Kazdaxjust disable the lock screen19:57
databitswhere do I find the setting for that ?19:58
Kazdaxon the power button ...the setting icon19:58
Mathisenis not that just ignoring the problem and not a fix19:58
Kazdaxwell yea i did my part19:58
databitsya I know19:58
Kazdaxits what i know19:58
fluvvellscircle, at what stage did your ssh issue occur?19:58
Mathisendatabits, what if you just run pavucontrol or alsamixer when audio is away anything not right in there ?19:59
databitsok where in the settings is the lock screen ?19:59
Kazdaxyou should see privacy19:59
databitsI'm going to disable it so I don't lose my audio for now19:59
Kazdaxunder privacy you should have the option to toggle it off20:00
databitsthanks20:00
InteloSending mail via echo "My message" | mail -s subject user@mail.com    works fine but when I send via a thirdpart nodemailer (nodejs lib), it says lost connection after RCPT. 451 4.3.0  <user@mail.com>: Temporary lookup failure;20:00
Kazdaxnp20:00
Kazdaxnoproblem20:01
databitsanyone have any idea what might be causing the audio to quit once the lock screen pops up ?20:03
hatsat32hello20:12
ducassephox_: rtl8723be is a very problematic chipset on linux20:13
hatsat32hello20:14
LissajousPatternhi20:24
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kgeeI started with stock ubuntu 18 and installed cinnamon. My wifi connects in cinnamon. Now when I try unity or kde my wireless refuses to connect or even give me a list of nearby networks20:41
kgeeI'm not sure why network settings are desktop environment specific, but does anyone know why kde wont connect?20:42
TJ-kgee: sounds like it broke some libraries20:44
kgeeTJ-, any guess as to which you suspect? Its inconvenient because I dont have internet in kde so troubleshooting is made even harder20:45
ioriakgee, no idea about kde, but on unity you can try to restart network-manager20:45
kgeeioria, I can try that20:45
kgeeswitching environments. brb20:46
kgeehuh, rebooting the machine and logging straight into KDE worked. I suspect the DEs use different conflicting applications20:50
kgeethanks!20:50
bpromptkgee:    not all DE launch the same network manager, some may use gnome-nm-applet, some may use Wicd UI, KDE uses neither, they use their own Plasma widget to connect20:52
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bpromptkgee:   so the wifi drivers are fine and the NetworkManager daemon may well be running, but the network connections UI is that one that wasn't working20:53
SailorMoonI was just about to say, IIRC kde uses plasma-nm20:53
TJ-kgee: pro tip: in a shell you can use "nmtui" (text user interface) and "nmcli" (command-line interface)20:53
TJ-kgee: e.g. "nmcli con up 'Connection name' "20:54
TJ-kgee: and "nmcli con" to list the connections and their current state20:54
kgeeyeah, the applet loaded in my kde system tray, but all the option were greyed out. Now after a reboot it just autoconnected to the existing config. Command line options are great, but if you don't have them memorized its hard to remember them without being able to hit google20:55
kgeeI'll try to remember nmcli for next time20:55
kgeethough I hope to just stick with one DE and not hit this again20:55
bpromptkgee:   if the options were grayed out, usually means NetworkManager daemon isn't running, that or the wifi is off, and you can turn that off on many machines with a slider/switch on the side or even a keynboard combination20:56
bpromptkgee:   you can always jolt the wifi driver by reinstalling it20:57
kgeebprompt, it wasn't the physical switch. Wifi was working just fine before the login/logout to change DEs. Purely a software thing. likely a config conflict or resource lock from two competing applications20:58
MadLambI'm having an issue with battery/charging on ThinkPad T440p with Ubuntu 18.04. Every 5 seconds my battery  indicator switches between charging/charged. That also switches my CPU performance from ~3000 Mhz to 700 Mhz. Any idea of what might be going wrong?20:58
bpromptkgee:   right.... sounds like it... then it was the network connections app20:58
TJ-kgee: communcation is done via Dbus so possibly the environment was wrong20:58
TJ-MadLamb: check the kernel log for clues: "journalctl -b"20:59
jasabellahmmmm is http://packages.ubuntu.com down?22:19
coconutjasabella: might well be. I have seen a complain about the search capability of it today.22:21
hyperlumicAppears to be. I was getting nonsensical responses from queries earlier.22:21
hyperlumicThings like "linux-image-virtual" not existing in bionic.22:21
Ooljasabella: not responding at all for me22:22
hyperlumicSame.22:23
jasabellayeah i was getting no search results a few hours ago, thought it'd be ok by now22:24
Tr4shhello I have this error when I install package or upgrade the system https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/msBSMXh24G/ how I can fix it?22:28
jdownie@Tr4sh... does this help22:29
jdowniesudo dpkg-reconfigure -a22:29
jdownie?22:29
Tr4shjdownie: nope..i tried also sudo apt install -f but same error22:30
hyperlumicWhat command did you enter to get that error?22:33
jdownieWhoa, looks like it's not a simple issue22:34
jdowniehttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233826722:34
Tr4shhyperlumic: with sudo apt upgrade or sudo apt install [package]22:34
Tr4shjdownie: hmm so the solution is to reinstall the system? =-O22:42
Ooldid you try sudo apt-get install -f  ?22:42
Oolok I see22:42
OerHeksi think you need to run apt full-upgrade22:43
Tr4shOerHeks: I did it, also apt dist-upgrade22:44
OerHekswhat linux is this? mint?22:47
Tr4shlubuntu with ubuntu 18.0422:50
Nexilvahttps://amzn.to/2zC8q9z Does this SSD need driver?22:52
tomreynNexilva: no affiliate links here, please22:55
NexilvaHuh? I get from heardware chennel22:59
NexilvaI use Kubuntu22:59
NexilvaI go there?22:59
Nexilvahardware22:59
OerHeksbasicly an ssd does not need a driver22:59
OerHeksjust make sure your system has the latest bios update, and have fun23:00
auctusmy dell laptop with a haswell cpu running 18.04 no longer recognizes my hdmi external monitor, and i cant figure out why; it worked a few days ago and all ive done in the past few days is install wine and libsdl223:11
auctusactually its a DVI monitor with an HDMI->DVI cable, has worked fine all year23:11
OerHeksmaybe it is just the FN + monitor intern/ext key23:12
auctusi tried that, nothing comes up, nothing listed in displays either, xrandr says nothing connected to HDMI23:13
auctusxrandr --query says HDMI-1 disconnected23:14
auctusits a software thing for sure, the monitor shows the little unplugged thing when you unplug the hdmi, so the monitor somehow knows its connected, but ubuntu doesnt23:18
Tr4shi solved with this command sudo apt-get --reinstall install python3-debian (if someone had the same issue)23:23
tadauahello.. i want to install linux.. i see ubuntu is popular.23:39
tadauabut i see desktop.. it looks something that is ment for tablets..23:39
OerHeksthere are many desktops, see !flavors23:40
OerHeks!flavor23:40
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours23:40
tadauais there something that reminds more of a classic desktop ?23:40
tadauagnome2 -> gnome3.. just..what happend?23:40
tomreynif you prefer the mre classic gnome2 looks, then look into budgie, mate, xubuntu23:42
tadaualubuntu seems what i want.23:43
Youndertadaua, linux mint is a gnome 2 desktop lookalike23:45
OerHeks.. but we do not support mint, just saying23:50
tadauai desided to go for lubuntu.. i dont need some fancy desktop with lots of eyecandy. its looks like a simple classical type one.23:50
OerHeks!info Gnome-Pie23:51
ubottugnome-pie (source: gnome-pie): visual application launcher for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (bionic), package size 278 kB, installed size 1781 kB23:51
YounderThere is a big family called debian and ubuntu is a part of that universe. So is linux mint and rasperrian for that matter. The setup for ubuntu is different, but otherwise all debian systems behave in a similar matter23:52
tadauawhats diff between debian and ubuntu. besides ubuntu beeing more upto date?23:53
YounderLike the setup of apache in ubuntu is different than for most other debian installs.23:53
Younderubuntu is more minimalistic. debian includes everything and the kitchen sink. Form a security perspective installing only what you use is preferable.23:55
auctusstill googling and still cant figure it out, hmm.23:57
tadauaso.. basically what you are saying is that.. with ubuntu i end up doing alot of sudo apt-install this and that after the install compared to debian?? since when i want X app install it already has the libs and stuff?23:57
tadauagcc/g+ stuff and all that23:58
Youndertadaua, Well I do. But it depends on what you are using the system for.23:58
tadauatake over the world :D23:59

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