[00:07] <ducasse> Mixxit: you can still download images with the old server installer
[00:08] <ducasse> Mixxit: which release is this?
[00:09] <aidrocsid> Anyone know a way I can lock my mouse to a single screen while running dual monitors in 18.04?
[00:11] <Mixxit> 16.4.1 and 16.4.10
[00:11] <Mixxit> ive also tested it on 18 but the docs were for 16
[00:12] <Mixxit> 16.10* i mean not 16.4.10
[00:12] <aidrocsid> Mixxit, for mouse lock?
[00:13] <ducasse> Mixxit: 16.10 is eol, no point in installing that
[00:13] <Mixxit> im about to try 18.04.1
[00:14] <Mixxit> but im pretty sure the doc https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/advanced-installation.html.en-GB#software-raid
[00:14] <Mixxit> has not been updated to match 18s new install ui
[00:14] <Mixxit> so right now i cant install with raid on two disks
[00:18] <Mixxit> great
[00:18] <ducasse> Mixxit: here's the old installer - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04/release/
[00:19] <Mixxit> now my screen is just garbled
[00:19] <Mixxit> thats the one ive justed booted ducasse
[00:21] <Mixxit> https://imgur.com/a/9N7i65l
[00:21] <Mixxit> nomodeset does the same btw
[00:23] <xibalba> hey all, looking for some help to NAT my ens160 (LAN) traffic through my tun0 interface (SSH). I've done the following https://8n1.org/14114/5bd1, but when I point a machine at this 'tunneler' system to use as a gateway i dont see any traffic going into tun0 when checking via tcpdump / tshark
[00:23] <xibalba> i can ping between my two tun0 interfaces though
[00:24] <xibalba> 192.168.99.100 → 192.168.99.200 ICMP 84 Echo (ping) reply
[00:26] <fassl> aidrocsid, i don't know about something ready for that, though i once intercepted mouse and keyboard to zoom in the ui when a specific keyboard mouse was used, you maybe could use it to not forward mouse events to the other screen. not sure about the details though anymore, it was some time ago
[00:28] <fassl> or maybe this still works? https://superuser.com/a/177487/505754
[00:30] <Mixxit> vga=640 got around the issue so far for me
[00:30] <Mixxit> attempting install now
[00:33] <MadLamb> Hello, I have my battery icon indicator oscilating constantly from charging/not charging. I tried to google but wasn't able to come up with a solution. Any ideas?
[00:34] <MadLamb> Ubuntu 18.10, ThinkPad T440p
[00:39] <Mixxit> this documentation makes no sense i think its wrong
[00:39] <Mixxit> you cant do what it says even on the old installer
[00:43] <Mixxit> ok i kinda worked it out a bit but the doc is definitely not correct
[00:43] <Mixxit> new problem is installing system says 'could not find any live images'
[00:44] <Mixxit> all this suffering beause i bought amd :(
[00:44] <Mixxit> yet they are good the ones for drivers right
[00:57] <Mixxit> thanks anyway guys
[01:16] <Intelo_> How much a laptop be constantly used in 24 hours for cpu usage above 70% and 90% ram. A laptop like m6700?
[01:31] <CoolerZ> can someone help? I am trying to do   chmod 400 file
[01:32] <CoolerZ> but the permissions being set are -r-xr-xr-x
[01:36] <marcodiego> CoolerZ, what permissions exactly do you want?
[01:42] <OneM_Industries> So, I have a failing HDD.
[01:42] <OneM_Industries> I already have a replacement, same size, slightly different type.
[01:43] <OneM_Industries> Is transferring everything over as simple as just copying the old drive over to the new, and physically replacing the old with the new, or will there be other steps?
[01:44] <CoolerZ> anyone?
[01:44] <kk4ewt> OneM_Industries,  boot into a live image and dd old one to the new one
[01:44] <OneM_Industries> That's it? No fiddling with UUIDs etc?
[01:45] <kk4ewt> thats is
[01:45] <OneM_Industries> Nice.
[01:45] <CoolerZ> marcodiego, i think i already posted the command
[01:45] <CoolerZ> yeah chmod 400
[01:45] <Intelo_> How much a laptop be constantly used in 24 hours for cpu usage above 70% and 90% ram. A laptop like m6700?
[01:46] <kk4ewt> CoolerZ,  which makes no sense
[01:46] <CoolerZ> i know right?
[01:46] <CoolerZ> why is it changing to -r-xr-xr-x ?
[01:46] <kk4ewt> what file is it
[01:47] <CoolerZ> its a .pem key file
[01:47] <kk4ewt> no you changing to 400 makes no sense
[01:47] <CoolerZ> thats whats required by ssh
[01:47] <fengshaun> I'm running ubuntu 18.10 and have noticed minimized applications don't show up on the sidebar
[01:47] <kk4ewt> no idea where you are getting that from
[01:47] <fengshaun> it used to work in 18.04
[01:48] <fengshaun> also, the sidebar is visible in the login screen
[01:48] <CoolerZ> anyway its always worked on other ubuntu oses
[01:48] <fengshaun> I suspect something is borked
[01:48] <CoolerZ> i don't know why its not working now
[01:48] <CoolerZ> hmm thats weird
[01:49] <CoolerZ> chmod 700 sets all the permissions ons
[01:49] <CoolerZ> did something change with the chmod command?
[01:50] <kk4ewt> no 700 set rwx--- ---
[01:50] <CoolerZ> kk4ewt, well its not doing that
[01:50] <CoolerZ> its setting it to rwxrwxrwx
[01:50] <kk4ewt> 400 would be -w- --- ---
[01:50] <CoolerZ> kk4ewt, no 400 is read only
[01:50] <CoolerZ> by owner
[01:51] <kk4ewt> yes which since your key is in your home folder should be 600
[01:52] <OerHeks> jups
[01:52] <kk4ewt> -rw-------. 1 jbwillia jbwillia 1.8K Aug 28  2015 id_rsa
[01:52] <CoolerZ> oh i found it https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/81
[01:52] <CoolerZ> some wsl bs
[01:53] <CoolerZ> kk4ewt, why 600? its not supposed to be written to
[01:53] <CoolerZ> also its not in my home folder
[01:58] <p0a> Hello
[01:58] <p0a> I want to install apache + PHP on a local directory that I can later remove, how can I do this?
[02:01] <alazy> I'm beginning to use software that isn't packeged as a .deb. Mostly, I  git clone https://github... into a ~/gits folder and then make install etc., but this doesn't record the source URL or allow easy updates. What's a better way?
[02:01] <OerHeks> for easy removal a lot of trouble, easiest way is moving your documentroot https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-move-an-apache-web-root-to-a-new-location-on-ubuntu-16-04
[02:02] <OerHeks> alazy, a better way would be searching for a PPA that gives debs and updates
[02:03] <OerHeks> or snap packages
[02:11] <alazy> OerHeks: Sure, but this is specifically for when there *isn't* a PPA or deb or snap - there's nothing available but a github or gitlab URL. I'm surprised if there isn't a tool to track github repos and download them all.
[04:30] <gofio> it seems like if I ask for a channel list the program crashes :-/
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> gofio: freenode has a very large list, better search channels with !alis
[04:34] <gofio> thanks lotuspsychje :-) That was my guess, but thanks for verification
[04:35] <gofio> wonder if there's anybody else with ubuntu 17.10 here...
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> gofio: 17.10 is end of life
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> gofio: we advice to install a supported version (from the topic)
[04:37] <gofio> yeap, thanks again. It has been my first attempt into linux and did not know was the worst choice I could make :-D
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> gofio: what do you mean?
[04:40] <gofio> I also made a partition over windows 7 without license from the ubuntu instalation pendrive...(also not recomended). But oh well, before I format the entire hard disk and start from scratch and install the 14.04 version I'm lookin how far can it go now I'm already into it
[04:40] <gofio> I mean I did not know version 17.10 was what it is
[04:42] <gofio> this channel looks very promising :-)
[04:42] <Wixy> Hey all. Is there a way to make all windows show on the taskbar vertical panel (what is it called?) on wayland?
[04:42] <Wixy> it's really frustrating when you have multiple windows of the same application and you can't find where it is because the thumbnail it shows is too small to differentiate
[04:43] <Wixy> really time consuming
[04:44] <Wixy> Dock, that's what the bar is called!
[04:45] <Wixy> I don't want windows of the same application to be collapsed into one single icon
[04:45] <gofio> doesn't have that icon like multiple dots:? one dot per window
[04:46] <Wixy> yes, I don't want that behavior. I would rather have two separate icons so it's easier to get one window of the other
[04:46] <Wixy> the question is how
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: look into dconf-editor
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: there are some dock behaviour settings you can adjust there
[04:47] <gofio> I'm using version 17.10 but when I point to the icon it pops the windows I have open, dunno
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> gofio: dont give advice from an eol version please
[04:48] <gofio> did i give advice lotuspsychje ?
[04:49] <Wixy> I can select any of the grouped windows from the dock icon, but it's time consuming. I always select the wrong window since it's hard to differentiate them depending on the application
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> gofio: we dont support end of life versions here, so sharing your experience isnt usefull neither from 17.10
[04:49] <Wixy> I've wasted so much time that way I just want windows to be ungrouped
[04:49] <Wixy> same for the task switcher, windows are grouped. I don't want that
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: look into dconf-editor
[04:49] <Wixy> yep, I'm installing it
[04:50] <gofio> is there a channel where 17.10 can be discussed lotuspsychje  :?
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: then search for dash-to-dock and click action
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | gofio sure
[04:51] <gofio> thanks ubottu
[04:51] <gofio> gotta love those bots
[04:53] <Wixy> lotuspsychje, I don't think any of the alternatives help
[04:54] <Wixy> skip, minimize, launch, cycle-windows, minimize-or-overview, previews (that's the default) or quit
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: did you try cycle windows?
[04:54] <Wixy> yes
[04:55] <Wixy> it's even worse than before. if you have 5 windows you need to click 5 times to get the correct one in worst case scenario
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: there's also alt+TAB to switch stuff
[04:56] <Wixy> and 2-3 times in avg scenario
[04:56] <Wixy> yeah, I know, and that is also grouped by application -.-
[04:56] <Wixy> exact same problem
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: yeah it isnt exactly unity style but..
[04:57] <Wixy> maybe I should change desktop env?
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: unity can still be installed if you like
[04:57] <Wixy> unity does the same doesn't it?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: think unity uses better overview on right mouse click on the icon
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: also the gnome 'activities' button shows all your open windows
[05:02] <Wixy> that's all suboptimal if windows changes positions and the content is not clear only looking at the preview. for IDEs for instance I have a hard time when more than one window is open
[05:02] <Wixy> I'll try dash-to-panel, based on this answer https://askubuntu.com/questions/1081658/disable-window-grouping-in-dock-on-ubuntu-17-10-18-04
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: to work organized i use all 4 workspaces
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: if you open 4 terminals on 1 workspace, you can do alot of work already right
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: then clicking the terminal icon, transfers you to the right workspace
[05:31] <Wixy> oh really? dast-to-panel is better than docks, for me at least. but it lacks some configs docks has :(
[05:31] <Wixy> I think I'm changing desktop environment...
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: there is also docky if you like
[05:32] <Wixy> let me see
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: been playing with it in the past
[05:33] <Wixy> the main issue with dash-to-panel is I couldn't find how to remove the title from the icons, so they're no icons but large... buttons with text
[05:33] <Wixy> and that it doesn't appear on both monitors, only one monitor is supported
[05:34] <Wixy> dash-to-dock support not having titles and dual monitor
[05:34] <Wixy> but not ungroup windows
[05:34] <Wixy> come on!
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: perhaps you can create a bug wishlist?
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: seems like something usefull to add as feature
[05:35] <Wixy> I'll be changing env before that bug wishlist is addressed, but yeah I would probably :P
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: you create and ill add affected too
[05:35] <Wixy> do you know anything like what I'm looking for?
[05:35] <Wixy> probably on kde?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: maybe there are some tiling packages that could do the trick, but never really used those
[05:36] <Wixy> ungrouped windows, only icons and dual monitor seems to be the 3 key features I'm looking for
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[05:36] <Wixy> only icons is not a must-have actually, ungrouped windows and dual monitor are
[05:37] <Wixy> I'm trying docky now
[05:39] <Wixy> definitely not docky, it fails at both must-have features
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: havent used it in a while
[06:13] <Wixy> lotuspsychje, ok, I couldn't make it work, I'm back to dash to dock... now configuring workspaces. is there a way to isolate windows into workspaces?
[06:13] <Wixy> alt+tab on one workspace shows all windows in all workspaces
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: dont think there's a hack for that
[06:14] <Wixy> so what's the point of having workspaces?
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: with gnome-tweak-tool you can define workspaces on main screen, or alls creens
[06:15] <Wixy> well, there's a point of course, but...
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: if you use 4 workspaces, and keep programs divided on same workspace, you can work organized
[06:15] <Wixy> also on docks I see windows from all workspaces
[06:16] <Wixy> gosh, I've been using Linux for +15 years now but these moderns desktop environments are so annoying!
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: i also use super+page down switching workspaces
[06:17] <cfhowlett> easy enough to set it to a single desktop window ...
[06:17] <Wixy> cfhowlett, what do you mean?
[06:18] <cfhowlett> if you prefer, you can have a single workspace rather than multiples
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: 4 terminals workspace1 4 firefox workspace2 etc
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: he's looking to ungroup his windows
[06:18] <Wixy> actually that's all I wanted ^
[06:18] <cfhowlett> d'oh!
[06:18] <cfhowlett> !me goes back to <lurk> mode
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: and im out of ideas
[06:19] <Wixy> but it's impossible in dash-to-docks, so I switched to dash-to-panels, but it'll only appear in one window, then docky, but it sucks... where is the normal stuff? :P
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: create the wishlist bug :p
[06:20] <slingamn> i'm using 18.04 and i have a lot of [UFW BLOCK] spam in dmesg
[06:20] <slingamn> i am not concerned at all about brute-force attacks
[06:20] <slingamn> what's the right way to disable this functionality in ufw?
[06:21] <cfhowlett> slingamn, you mean kill ufw altogether?
[06:21] <slingamn> er, sorry, i just want to disable everything related to rate limiting
[06:21] <slingamn> but keep the basic allow/deny rules
[06:21] <slingamn> oh, hmm
[06:21] <slingamn> these are all [UFW BLOCK], not [UFW LIMIT BLOCK]
[06:22] <Wixy> I'm done, I'm installing kde and/or xfce. gnome totally missed the point imho -.-
[06:23] <slingamn> so i guess i just want to suppress all of this logging...should i just delete those lines from /etc/ufw/user.rules ?
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> slingamn: perhaps the #netfilter channel know
[06:25] <slingamn> yeah, could be
[06:27] <slingamn> i commented out the lines that appeared to be logging-related and did a `systemctl restart ufw.service`, the firewall rules are still in effect
[06:27] <slingamn> so that's probably fine
[07:26] <Wixy> lotuspsychje, still around?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> yes
[07:28] <AndyChow888> Hello lotuspsychje
[07:28] <Wixy> I'm back just to say KDE was the answer to my current and future problems. seriously, it's much more better. it supports dual monitor, ungrouping (application based, which is much better), windows are isolated by workspace, etc
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> Wixy: glad you sorted it!
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> hi AndyChow888
[07:41] <qwebirc8980> Hello, I'm in need of help. I have an Asus X470-Gaming Plus motherboard with a Ryzen 2700, trying to fresh install 18.10 and am encountering issues with xhci/mmio. ERROR Transfer event for unknown stream ring slot 1 ep 2 it takes about 5 minutes for the usb de to load. I was able to get it installed after an hour or so of waiting for the timeouts to take place. I attempted using the 4.18 latest kernel while this appeared to chan
[07:54] <qwebirc8980> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cwKxCzwmRF/ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K94HNgVHFr/
[08:32] <jnor> hep! so I install the pkg php-fpm and php-cli.. trying to rollout some simple app and getting "requires the PHP extension 'dom' to run".. what pkg do I need to install to be able to enable this extension?
[08:33] <jnor> ahhh php-dom lol okay :-D
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> !info php7.2-xml | jnor this what you need?
[08:40] <jnor> thank yeah
[08:51] <cfhowlett> !ping
[08:51] <Nexilva> ##linux is a full of retards. I hope #ubuntu is not.
[08:53] <Nexilva> That's okay though. Sauvin is old. He'll die soon.
[08:53] <Nexilva> Just a few more years. :)
[08:54] <Nexilva> Most of them are old and senile. Will die soon.Np.
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> Nexilva: do you have an ubuntu question?
[08:54] <Nexilva> Yes. While I do, I'm just waiting for these old idiots to die.
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> Nexilva: please focus on ubuntu issues only here, this is not a regular chat
[08:56] <Nexilva> I had an ubuntu issue which was made worse by a linux op named sauvin
[08:56] <Nexilva> lotuspsychje: please tell me more.
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> Nexilva: come to ubuntu-discuss
[08:57] <Nexilva> No thank you. I don't like to join more channels.
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> Nexilva: then please dont use this one, for chitchat
[08:58] <Nexilva> Feel free to stop making me talk anytime.
[08:58] <Nexilva> No one's asking you to hold a conversation with me.
[09:09] <peanutbutter144> i recently upgraded to ubuntu 18.10 from ubuntu 18.04 and i don't like the new theme. how do i change it back?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: install gnome-tweak-tool to manage your themes easy
[09:29] <peanutbutter144> lotuspsychje: thanks, but it still doesn't look like it did, the top panel and dock are the wrong colour. how do i change those back to what they looked like in 18.04?
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: what is the theme you selcted?
[09:31] <peanutbutter144> lotuspsychje: https://i.imgur.com/q8D8ZOk.png
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: yes, that should be the theme for bionic
[09:33] <peanutbutter144> lotuspsychje: it still doesn't look the same
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: have you tryed enabling other themes as a test? see if it influences
[09:37] <peanutbutter144> lotuspsychje: there is only one shell theme available, it's called "Default"
[09:37] <peanutbutter144> i think that's what changes what the dock and top bar look like
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: that might be baked in 18.10
[09:41] <peanutbutter144> lotuspsychje: here's a screenshot of the system menu thing, you can see it still uses the yaru theme because of the blue sliders https://imgur.com/NFeA08S
[09:42] <peanutbutter144> is there really no way to change it back?
[09:42] <peanutbutter144> the new theme is just too flat for me, i don't want to have to use outdated software so that i can have the full ambiance theme...
[09:44] <peanutbutter144> sorry the proper image link is here https://i.imgur.com/NFeA08S.png
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: im looking into dconf-editor but i dont see values for top bar
[09:47] <peanutbutter144> lotuspsychje: i remember installing a snap to try out the yaru theme in ubuntu 18.04, is there a package i can install to get the old theme in 18.10?
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: thats the community theme snap, i dont think theres a default snap/package to revert no
[09:48] <peanutbutter144> lotuspsychje: ok :(
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: you could add a new !bug if you like
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> !info light-themes | peanutbutter144 or try this?
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> says installed here on bionic peanutbutter144
[09:51] <peanutbutter144> light-themes is already installed on my computer
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: yeah thats what i was thinking..
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: i would consider a bug, mentioning you cant revert to proper ambiance even with light-themes installed
[09:52] <ducasse> peanutbutter144: themes sometimes evolve and change between releases, the old look might no longer be available
[09:53] <peanutbutter144> ducasse: i understand, but the old shell theme must be available from somewhere, right?
[09:53] <peanutbutter144> even if it's unofficial
[09:54] <ducasse> why must it?
[09:54] <peanutbutter144> well i assume it's available on the ubuntu bionic repositories
[09:54] <peanutbutter144> maybe i could download a .deb from there and install it manually?
[09:54] <ducasse> yes, but that is not guaranteed to work on cosmic
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: mixing package versions across different ubuntu versions isnt a great idea neither
[09:55] <peanutbutter144> lotuspsychje: yeah but it's only a theme, not a critical system component
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: the default theme on bionic is ambiance, wich is in light-themes
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: as ducasse says, new ubuntu versions bake new styles in
[09:58] <peanutbutter144> lotuspsychje: ok, i guess i'll just have to live with the new theme
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: you dont have other DE's installed that could interfere?
[09:58] <peanutbutter144> no, i only use the default desktop
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> kk
[09:58] <peanutbutter144> are there any other shell themes that have a similar style to ambiance that i could install?
[09:59] <ducasse> peanutbutter144: you could try to get the theme from bionic, but it's not something we support
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: if nobody files a bug, next release might have same issue still
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: if you like to see a feature next release, consider a wishlist bug?
[10:00] <peanutbutter144> lotuspsychje: that might be a good idea
[10:00] <peanutbutter144> how do i file a wishlist bug?
[10:00] <Ben64> i made my own theme
[10:00] <Ben64> took some time but you could do it too
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: ubuntu-bug gnome-shell
[10:00] <peanutbutter144> lotuspsychje: thanks
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> peanutbutter144: feel free to share the bug url after, we can help affect
[10:01] <Ben64> also there's gtk3 themes and gtk2 themes and themes that have both, so you might have to mix and match bits to get what you want
[10:13] <peanutbutter144> here's the bug link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1806234
[10:30] <Moeh> Hi! I want to run a python script during boot and from googling / stack overflow I see a couple different ways to do that: create service in /etc/init.d/, adding line to /etc/rc.local, adding it to the crontab with "@reboot". What would be the recommended way in my case?
[10:31] <Moeh> (it is a ubuntu server, no gui)
[10:50] <vlt> Moeh: If I just wanted to run it without any supervision I’d add a "@reboot" crontab.
[10:50] <MadLamb> I'm having some charging/performance issues on my ubuntu. The battery indicator keeps alternating between charging/not charging and my CPU keeps getting throttled. Thinkpad 440p, Ubuntu 18.10. Any ideas?
[10:54] <Kali_Yuga> hello apparently I messed up my boot partition :(... I have to remove ubuntu for now. if I install windows boot loader I only get an "Boot Agent" until I reinstall grub with boot repair. my problem now is I have 2 windows partitions showing up in grub in sda1 and sda5?? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S6MF86QVjV/ how do I fix my boot record restore windows for now?
[10:55] <Moeh> vlt: thx! I also want to make sure that it is always running, so my idea is that I add two entries, one with "@reboot" and one which uses flock to attempt to re-run it every minute (and does nothing if it is already running). Does that make sense?
[10:56] <Mathisen> Kali_Yuga, if you want to fix just windows bring it to ##windows
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> MadLamb: did you check if your bios is up to date?
[10:57] <MadLamb> lotuspsychje, no
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> MadLamb: on those thinkpads we have a lot of users with acpi issues
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> MadLamb: did you notice the same issues on LTS?
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> !info laptop-mode-tools | MadLamb see also
[10:59] <MadLamb> lotuspsychje, yes, I was on LTS until last week and I was getting this annoying clicking noise
[10:59] <MadLamb> lotuspsychje, same thing, battery  indicator going crazy
[11:00] <MadLamb> lotuspsychje, my bios version is 1.14, latest one is 2.51
[11:00] <MadLamb> lmao
[11:01] <Kali_Yuga> okay but why do I have 2 Windows boot partitions now in grub after using boot-repair?
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> MadLamb: doublecheck also your software-centre sometimes there are firmware updates
[11:02] <MadLamb> lotuspsychje, that is fine
[11:03] <MadLamb> lotuspsychje, sadly lenovo only offering .exe files to update bios
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> MadLamb: does fwupdate -l gives you something?
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> MadLamb: check how they extract the exe's here: https://medium.com/@BladeCoder/flash-your-lenovo-ideapad-laptop-bios-from-linux-using-uefi-capsule-updates-a82e455ea29c
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> MadLamb: keep in mind playing with firmwares 'can' brick your device, so before proceeding read the manuals for your device
[11:09] <Kali_Yuga> can I remove the second boot partition in grub somehow?
[11:10] <vlt> Moeh: If I in fact wanted something that not just runs once I’d use systemd.
[11:10] <MadLamb> lotuspsychje, fwupdate -l gives empty output
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> MadLamb: ok tnx
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> MadLamb: seems like we cant get your firmware tru fwupdate
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> MadLamb: this tutorial describes to make an usb for firmware: https://www.devopsderek.com/blog/2017/10/15/updating-thinkpad-firmware-with-linux/
[11:13] <MadLamb> lotuspsychje, I have the usb stick ready already
[11:13] <MadLamb> lotuspsychje, wish me luck :D
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> MadLamb: good luck!
[11:13] <MadLamb> brb
[11:16] <Moeh> vlt: thx! Will have a look into it. You don't think it is overkill for a simple python script?
[11:27] <TheMesquito> P
[11:33] <MadLamb> lotuspsychje, bios  update went well
[11:33] <MadLamb> lotuspsychje, lscpu | grep MHz -> CPU MHz:             798.155, CPU max MHz:         3100,0000, CPU min MHz:         800,0000
[11:37] <MadLamb> lotuspsychje, the CPU Mhz keeps oscillating between ~800 and ~2300 together with the battery indicator
[11:59] <leonardus> VLC crashes when I try to play a video. Anyone know how to fix?
[11:59] <leonardus> Here is the log https://pastebin.com/3gAvcRgT
[11:59] <leonardus> Here is the terminal output https://pastebin.com/K6WdbTht
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> MadLamb: can you pastebin your syslog please
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[12:10] <leonardus> 18.10
[12:11] <leonardus> This problem started after I got a new graphics card and installed AMD's drivers from their website
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: i presume you have amdgpu installed
[12:11] <leonardus> Yes
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: check the dri option here: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[12:12] <leonardus> lotuspsychje: Do I need to add the PPA?
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: lets try the dri options only first, as your logs spit out dri issues
[12:13] <leonardus> Ok
[12:13] <leonardus> there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf on my system
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: how about here: xorg: /usr/lib/xorg /usr/include/xorg
[12:15] <leonardus> yeah, no xorg.conf in any of those either
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: are you sure amdgpu loaded correctly? sudo lshw -C video, at bottom driver= should mention
[12:18] <leonardus> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/hdKQHsMn
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: yep looks good
[12:19] <leonardus> I ran `sudo find / -name "xorg.conf"`
[12:19] <leonardus> the only result was: /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-intel/xorg.conf
[12:28] <RonaldsMazitis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1804874
[12:28] <RonaldsMazitis> so I have this problem
[12:28] <RonaldsMazitis> with mouse
[12:28] <RonaldsMazitis> I installed mainline kernel
[12:28] <RonaldsMazitis> this morning woke up with disk errors
[12:29] <RonaldsMazitis> and was thrown in initramfs
[12:29] <RonaldsMazitis> somehow fixed errors
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: not sure why its not there for you
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:46] <Iarla> Anybody know how to ensure USB 2 is working in a Win XP guest on Virtualbox?
[12:48] <Mathisen> Iarla, https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usb_devices_view.html
[12:49] <Mathisen> Iarla, or just use wmic command in cmd. dont know syntax doh
[12:49] <Iarla> Thanks Mathisen, I haven't come across these before.
[12:58] <Mixxit> hey guys
[12:59] <Mixxit> i have a ubuntu server box setup but i had to do it with a massive cable running across my house to the router
[12:59] <Mixxit> its terminal only and im wondering can i make this machine wifi only that auto logs in on bootup?
[13:01] <Mixxit> i saw this guide but https://askubuntu.com/questions/909477/installing-ubuntu-server-on-laptop-cant-recognize-wifi-card
[13:01] <Mixxit> i think its using the old networking stack
[13:01] <Mixxit> as i don thave ifconfig and stuff
[13:01] <Mixxit> i have enp6s0 etc for my lan
[13:01] <Mixxit> so i have got so far as installing wpasupplicant and adding the config but now im not sure on the next step
[13:03] <Mathisen> Mixxit, pastebin the config you talking abut
[13:03] <Mathisen> about*
[13:03] <Mathisen> im assuming it is /etc/network/interfaces ?
[13:04] <Mixxit> no i dont have that
[13:04] <Mixxit> its using the new network setup
[13:04] <Mixxit> someone helped me before in here but i cant remember where he said it was
[13:04] <Mixxit> i think it was in some .d folder? perhaps something to do with systemd?
[13:04] <Mixxit> its all confusing this new stuff hehe
[13:05] <Mathisen> ok pastebin the config anyway
[13:05] <Mixxit> which config?
[13:05] <Mixxit> https://pastebin.com/A0CiFjYS
[13:05] <Mixxit> this is ip address
[13:05] <Mathisen> the on you talking about " and adding the config but now im... "
[13:05] <Mixxit> thats my ethernet enp6so
[13:05] <Mixxit> so im expecting to see a second one for my wifi adapter
[13:06] <Mixxit> but i dont know where the network settings have moved to to add a new adapter
[13:06] <Mathisen> ip link ?
[13:06] <Mathisen> if you want to know name of you wifi adapter
[13:07] <Mixxit> oh wait i think i remeber it was called netplan
[13:07] <Mixxit> https://pastebin.com/9DSP4xs6
[13:07] <Mixxit> this is my ethernet adapter
[13:07] <Mixxit> this is iplink: https://pastebin.com/3JdpFS8F
[13:07] <Mixxit> no wifi showing there
[13:08] <Mathisen> oh you dont even have your wifi listed there
[13:08] <Mixxit> thi sis my lspci
[13:08] <Mixxit> https://pastebin.com/SDQbNSDd
[13:09] <Mathisen> i dont see any wifi card there or am i blind
[13:09] <Mixxit> oh one sec maybe i unplugged
[13:09] <kk4ewt> lsusb
[13:10] <Mixxit> https://pastebin.com/SVjEPyMw
[13:10] <Mixxit> oh yay it shows on iplink
[13:10] <Mixxit> noop state DOWN
[13:11] <Mixxit> https://pastebin.com/Af2mW4hi
[13:11] <Mixxit> my wpa supplicant config: https://pastebin.com/rs3n1UJ8
[13:13] <Mathisen> so far so good
[13:13] <Mixxit> so i guess do i make a netplan thing?
[13:14] <Mixxit> maybe add it to the ethernets tree?
[13:14] <Mathisen> i dont know what netplan is.. someone else need to answer that
[13:14] <Mathisen> your configuration looks ok so far atleast
[13:14] <Mixxit> ok well ill hve a google now i remembered where its stored
[13:16] <Mixxit> oh cool looks like there is a wireless tree in netplan config
[13:16] <Mixxit> maybe i dont need wpasupplicant then
[13:17] <Mixxit> https://pastebin.com/g8hN0Cek
[13:18] <Mathisen> you do want wpasupplicant.. but whatever netplan is nope
[13:18] <Mathisen> this should work fine for you https://www.linuxbabe.com/command-line/ubuntu-server-16-04-wifi-wpa-supplicant
[13:19] <Mathisen> go from step3 and forward
[13:19] <Mixxit> thanks
[13:23] <RonaldsMazitis> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CFDww2yTJR/
[13:23] <RonaldsMazitis> so no mouse is connected?
[13:23] <RonaldsMazitis> I hate restarting pc just to connect mouse
[13:23] <RonaldsMazitis> why the hell it takes restart for ubuntu to connect mouse
[13:24] <Mixxit> ps2?
[13:26] <RonaldsMazitis> wut
[13:27] <Mathisen> RonaldsMazitis, if it is a ps2 mouse as Mixxit asked a reboot is usaly needed, if usb it should work strait away
[13:28] <RonaldsMazitis> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yNQWndgPH7/
[13:28] <RonaldsMazitis> USB
[13:28] <RonaldsMazitis> mouse
[13:28] <RonaldsMazitis> this is what last happened in cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:28] <RonaldsMazitis> it just removes device
[13:28] <RonaldsMazitis> and that's it
[13:28] <RonaldsMazitis> why ubuntu does not connect
[13:31] <JC_Yang> need to install kernel debug symbols, but can't locate linux-image-4.4.0-139.generic-dbgsym package, what's wrong?
[13:32] <JC_Yang> my bad, typo in my question, the package name is linux-image-4.4.0-139-generic-dbgsym
[13:36] <Mixxit> ok all sorted guys thanks
[13:36] <Mixxit> have a great weekend!
[13:36] <Mixxit> (for anyone reading irc logs i just added the config into teh wpa supplicant file and did netplan generate netplan update)
[13:38] <Intelo> https://imgur.com/a/sS094YU the ram is full. That means, cpu is limiting in performance? Should I enable swap ?
[13:39] <blackflow> Intelo: where do you see RAM in that picture
[13:40] <Intelo> 16g
[13:40] <Intelo> blackflow, 3rd last
[13:42] <blackflow> Intelo: that's not a proper measure. See what  "free -m" on command line says. Also read  https://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[13:44] <Intelo> blackflow, https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/wzNmNxYV7T/
[13:45] <blackflow> Intelo: you've got 3G available from 16G total. That's plenty
[13:46] <Intelo> blackflow,  so buff/cache should not be counted?
[13:46] <Intelo> blackflow,  what is buff/cache?
[13:46] <blackflow> Intelo: however, always having a few Gs for swap is a good thing. there's always _some_ application memory that's not used (especially with modern bloatware softwares), and that will be swapped out.
[13:46] <blackflow> Intelo: the "available" column is all you need to know how much memory is ready to be used if an application needs it.
[13:46] <blackflow> Intelo: read that link for explanation
[13:48] <Intelo> blackflow,  won't swap hit performance
[13:48] <Intelo> and wear ssd
[13:49] <blackflow> no. swapping out unused pages is good. swap storm caused by lack of ram is not good.
[13:50] <Intelo> blackflow,  for 16 g ram, how much swap should / could be used for optimal performance
[13:50] <Intelo> and non wearing of ssd
[13:50] <blackflow> I'd give it 2G
[13:50] <Intelo> ok so swap size be 2g and all of it could be used?
[13:51] <blackflow> modern SSDs won't wear out so easily. they have very good wear leveling algos. you'd need to be churning out hundreds of GB per month to have it worn out in years to come
[13:52] <blackflow> Intelo: that really depends on your use case. in my experience, 2G is "about enough" for some average desktop use
[13:53] <blackflow> and if you're worried about SSD wear, you can monitor "LBAs written" SMART attribute, or whatever the name is for your model, with smartmontools. Modern SSDs are rated for tens and hundreds of TBs for their lifetime
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: got out of your issue yet?
[13:54] <leonardus> no
[13:55] <leonardus> I think the problem is that I still have some old nvidia drivers installed
[13:55] <leonardus> but I'm still not entirely sure
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: but you have an amd card?
[13:55] <leonardus> Yeah I used to have a 750Ti and I just upgraded to an RX 580
[13:56] <blackflow> Intelo: btw, use a swapfile, and not a partition, that way you can re-create a larger one, should 2G swap prove insufficient (which I doubt)
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: maybe you should purge all, and start over the amdgpu install, from that link i gave you
[13:57] <leonardus> lotuspsychje: this?: sudo apt-get remove --purge '^nvidia-.*'
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: if you think you still have nvidia, yes sudo apt purge nvidia*
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: but also the amdgpu drivers, and reinstall those too, perhaps itl create a new xorg
[13:59] <Intelo> blackflow,  how to check where is my swap
[14:01] <Intelo> blackflow,  looks like /swapfile                                 none            swap is a file
[14:01] <blackflow> yeah that'd be the default
[14:01] <Intelo> ok
[14:04] <Intelo> blackflow,  wondering if I have 4 ram slots, 8gx2 slots filled. I can just buy one more 8g and make it 8gx3 slots? Some people say "always have even slots filled"
[14:05] <Mixxit> ok so now i have to do netplan apply everytime i boot
[14:06] <Mixxit> else wifi hasnt started
[14:06] <Mixxit> :(
[14:06] <blackflow> I'm not really familiar wiht memory slotting that much, to answer that. All I know is, it's not as intuitive as one would think. For example   https://superuser.com/questions/110031/is-it-faster-to-have-four-times-2-gb-or-two-times-4-gb-of-ram-with-a-dual-channe
[14:06] <blackflow> Intelo: ^^^
[14:06] <LUCKeR> Hi, isn't /launchpad.net supposde to provide the code of the PPA?
[14:06] <Mathisen> Mixxit, as why i linked you to a simple way that just set upp a service on boot with just wpasupplicant
[14:07] <LUCKeR> I'm having troubles with firejail
[14:07] <Intelo> blackflow, ok
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> LUCKeR: you can install firejail right from the official repos if you want
[14:12] <leonardus> lotuspsychje: Yeah video playback still isn't working
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: did you add that dri stuff to xorg?
[14:13] <leonardus> there's still no xorg.conf there
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> odd
[14:13] <leonardus> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/b3Zck0We
[14:14] <KaiXXL> Are you allowed to post a link? I'm having troubles with a PPA.
[14:15] <Foorack> do I need both core and core18 snaps?
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: try adding dri to: 00-amdgpu.conf
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: Option "DRI" "3"
[14:20] <leonardus> lotuspsychje: I've modified it according to the article and it looks like this now https://pastebin.com/AR40CpP0
[14:20] <leonardus> should it be something different?
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: looks good
[14:21] <leonardus> great, I'll reboot now
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: gl
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> KaiXXL: we dont really support external ppa's here, whats your issue exactly?
[14:25] <leonardus> lotuspsychje: I've rebooted and it still crashes. This is in the xorg log though, it says it's using DRI3 (line 295): https://pastebin.com/pEykbLBa
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: can you see if vlc spits out the same dri errors now?
[14:26] <KaiXXL> lotuspsychje https://launchpad.net/~deki/+archive/ubuntu/firejail no PPA code?
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> KaiXXL: you can install firejail right from the official ubuntu repos if you like
[14:27] <leonardus> lotuspsychje: It just says "segmentation fault" now. 1 sec, I'll upload the vlc log
[14:28] <leonardus> https://pastebin.com/41NxL6zz
[14:28] <KaiXXL> lotuspsychje thanks, but it's a way older version?
[14:28] <leonardus> and here's the terminal log: https://pastebin.com/jRJy6AqY
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> !latest | KaiXXL
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: is this the snap vlc or the apt vlc?
[14:29] <leonardus> Pretty sure it's apt. How do I make sure, though?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> KaiXXL,  newest isn't always best
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: apt-cache policy vlc
[14:29] <leonardus> https://pastebin.com/2VuSi77F
[14:30] <KaiXXL> BluesKaj, true but it's lacking the lts release
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: didnt you say you was on cosmic?
[14:30] <TheMesquito> Personally if you want the most current packages you should use a rolling releases distro
[14:30] <leonardus> Yeah I'm on 18.10
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: then your vlc evrsion should be:  Version 3.0.4-2build1 (cosmic)
[14:31] <KaiXXL> ubottu, thanks
[14:31] <leonardus> oh, I could swear I was on 18.10
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: lsb_release -a
[14:32] <leonardus> Description:	Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
[14:32] <leonardus> guess I was wrong
[14:32] <Mixxit> ok so i attempted that guide Mathisen
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: no sweat
[14:32] <Mixxit> but i get authentication timeout
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: anyway, seems like you have the apt version
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: does it crash on launch, or after playing a video?
[14:36] <Mixxit> to rule out the router, i have also made my phone into a hotspot and tried to connect with that
[14:36] <Mixxit> but i still get the SME: Trying to authenticate with MAC (SSID=... etc
[14:40] <BluesKaj> KaiXXL, is this the version you want?  https://firejail.wordpress.com/download-2/release-notes/
[14:41] <Mixxit> Mathisen i think its the card so ill go grab another :-)
[14:41] <KaiXXL> BluesKaj, yes 0.9.56-LTS
[14:42] <BluesKaj> try githib
[14:42] <BluesKaj> github rather
[14:43] <KaiXXL> BluesKaj, here are dbes and the like but no PPA from what I've seen
[14:43] <KaiXXL> *there
[14:44] <leonardus> lotuspsychje: after playing a video
[14:44] <piesquared> How do I start a program, like a game, that needs a display in on an ubuntu server?
[14:45] <leonardus> piesquared: you generally shouldn't be running a display on a server
[14:46] <piesquared> But, say, i want to afk on this game
[14:46] <piesquared> im not gonna keep it up on my desktop.
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: are you on wayland or xorg?
[14:46] <leonardus> pretty sure Xorg
[14:47] <piesquared> iirc theres a way, but idk how it works
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: try purge vlc, remove the configs too and reinstall
[14:47] <leonardus> piesquared: you can put it in a separate workspace, if you're using ubuntu with gnome
[14:47] <piesquared> huh?
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: and test another player too, like smplayer?
[14:47] <leonardus> piesquared: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:48] <piesquared> 14.x
[14:48] <BluesKaj> KaiXXL, check this out https://launchpad.net/~deki/+archive/ubuntu/firejail
[14:48] <piesquared> i have an outdated server.
[14:49] <TheMesquito> I thought 14.04 was LTS untill this year
[14:49] <leonardus> Yeah 14.x is reaching EOL, if it hasn't already
[14:49] <TheMesquito> Er next year rather
[14:49] <leonardus> April 2019 I think
[14:49] <TheMesquito> It's 5 years of support, so yeah
[14:50] <TheMesquito> I assume when 19.04 shows up it will go EOL
[14:50] <piesquared> (im starting to think i have a 15 year old computer actually)
[14:50] <piesquared> Its hosted for free remotely
[14:51] <hans_> what is the ext4 default relatime timeout where atime will be updated regardless of mtime?
[14:51] <hans_> (apparently it's distribution-specific, with Red Hat defaulting to 1 day)
[14:51] <leonardus> lotuspsychje: VLC does not work, but SMPlayer does
[14:51] <leonardus> mpv also works
[14:52] <TheMesquito> piesquared: you should really check what version it is, esp if the server is connected to the internet, witch it obviously is since it's a remote machine
[14:53] <piesquared> i think its like 14.7
[14:53] <piesquared> does it matter?
[14:53] <leonardus> I don't think 14.7 exists
[14:54] <TheMesquito> Well 14.7 is not a version
[14:54] <piesquared> oh, lol, well idk then
[14:54] <TheMesquito> It's normally x.04 or x.10
[14:55] <piesquared> is it prettymuch always safe to upgrade if you have a 15 year old server?
[14:55] <piesquared> but back to my original question...
[14:55] <piesquared> isnt there a software that can let you have a "display"?
[14:56] <TheMesquito> piesquared: well it's important to know because an EOL OS is dangerous to run when it's Internet facing, since it will no longer have security updates
[14:56] <leonardus> I strongly advise against having a display on an internet-facing server, for security reasons
[14:57] <piesquared> well, ill take that risk.
[14:57] <TheMesquito> I mean, you can run X on the server, but it's not recommend on anything Internet facing and really not at all
[14:57] <hans_> piesquared, cat /etc/*release* | pastebinit
[14:57] <piesquared> X?
[14:57] <hans_> what? why would X give a damn about you running a server on the same system? (it doesn't care)
[14:58] <hans_> piesquared, X.org~
[14:58] <piesquared> ok, im just confused and out of time.
[14:58] <piesquared> thanks.
[14:58] <hans_> leonardus, explain
[14:59] <hans_> why is a desktop (say, lxde-core? i run lxde-core on a few internet-facing servers) be a security issue?
[14:59] <leonardus> Widens the attack surface.
[14:59] <leonardus> see: https://it.slashdot.org/story/18/10/26/2112214/trivial-bug-in-xorg-server-gives-root-permissions-on-linux-bsd-systems
[15:01] <blackflow> the problem is not in having a desktop per se, but if xorg or any other xorg applications, have any public facing ports open. in itself, xorg doesn't by default, so it's irrelevant in that aspect.
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: what kind of video is that you try to play
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: your system up to date also?
[15:23] <sappheiros> i am not able to file a bug; please see #ubuntu-bugs; what should i do?
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: ubuntu-bug packagename
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: perhaps before filing the bug, as your issue to the channel, volunteers can take a look
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> aks
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> ask
[15:28] <sappheiros> lotuspsychje: i already did that, and my error is in the final step of the process that initiates, i.e. completing the webform at launchpad.net
[15:28] <sappheiros> i asked here hoping someone would respond there, because i've already asked #ubuntu-bugs and no one has yet responded.
[15:29] <sappheiros> (i.e. maybe someone is here who is not looking at that channel at the moment, and my messages here would cause them to look at that other channel)
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: can you provide us some details, of what doesnt work exactly?
[15:32] <sappheiros> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/m4DypRhn38/
[15:34] <BluesKaj> sappheiros, , that's not what we want to know , what's actually happening on your pc that you think needs debugging
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: try to clear your browsers cache, and try login back to launchpad
[15:35] <sappheiros> flash installed through Muon has 'Context3D not available' error at pogo.com
[15:35] <sappheiros> tried to play chess at pogo.com; was told to install flash; installed 'flashplugin-installer' from Muon Package Manager (Discover freezes every time I try to use it) after closing firefox web browser; opened firefox went back to pogo.com now it says "Context3D not available! Possible reasons: wrong wmode or missing device support." when I enter the chess room: the frames of the right username list and chat load, but nothing else loads with that
[15:35] <sappheiros> error message displayed instead in the center of the flash frame (i suppose it's called). help.ubuntu.com indicates this is a bug, because what Ubuntu purports to do -- install flash from the Muon Package Manager -- does not successfully install flash. I will try to uninstall this package from the Muon Package Manager and instead follow the Adobe Flash download link from pogo.com and try a manual install. (My hypothesis is that the Muon package is
[15:35] <sappheiros> outdated.)
[15:35] <sappheiros> did you get two messages just now, "flash installed ..." and a second "tried to play ... is outdated.)"?
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: your ubuntu version please?
[15:36] <sappheiros> 18.10 (lubuntu i386)
[15:37] <sappheiros> i managed to submit it finally -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1806252
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: have you tryed installing lubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:38] <sappheiros> i don't remember. i have youtube, if that implies an answer
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: try to install, to see
[15:39] <TheMesquito> YouTube has not used flash in years, they use HTML5 by default now
[15:39] <sappheiros> oh.
[15:40] <sappheiros> should i uninstall that flashplugin-installer before installing lubuntu-restricted-extras?
[15:40] <sappheiros> i'm using the Muon Package Manager because Discover freezes every time i've tried using it
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: no, you can just try the restricted extras
[15:42] <sappheiros> does canonical make money from ubuntu by selling technical support?
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: cannonical does payed support also yes
[15:44] <sappheiros> i don't understand how a company making free software profits (financially)
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: you can discuss this in #ubuntu-discuss
[15:46] <sappheiros> i installed lubuntu-restricted-extras and there is no change to pogo.com chess's error message
[15:46] <sappheiros> (which is: Context3D not available! Possible reasons: wrong wmode or missing device support. )
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: ive tested your pogo chess, working here with flash
[15:47] <sappheiros> you have 64-bit system, not 32-bit?
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: oh wait, its not, same 3D error
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: i think you need to file a bug against their website, not ubuntu
[15:48] <sappheiros> a page from 2 years ago suggests it is the flash install https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1115022
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: there must be some flaw in their code
[15:49] <Lantizia> Anyone have an old Ubuntu 10.04 (preferably 32-bit) official disc (in cardboard sleeve) - like what shipit.ubuntu.com used to send out... laying about the place?  perhaps I could buy?  just to add to my collection :D
[15:49] <sappheiros> how do you know it is pogo's fault and not an outdated package in the Muon Package Manager?
[15:49] <TJ-> Lantizia: won't the ISO file do?
[15:49] <Lantizia> TJ-, it's a physical collection :)
[15:50] <Lantizia> ISO's files are more like - a list :P
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: ive just tested it for you on 18.04.1 , same error
[15:50] <TJ-> Lantizia: you can write the ISO to a disc :)
[15:50] <sappheiros> lotuspsychje: is it not possible that the ubuntu developers have not updated their flash package since before 18.04.1?
[15:50] <Lantizia> TJ-, not the same :)
[15:50] <TheMesquito> Lantizia: If you can't find  find one, you could always make a clone :p
[15:51] <TheMesquito> Seeing how 10.04 is so old, I don't think anyone would have the disk anymore
[15:51] <BluesKaj> sappheiros, the discover gui can be buggy, suggest you install the original muon via the console, sudo apt install muon and use that instead of discover
[15:51] <Lantizia> you'd be surprised - i recently bought 5.04 (32-bit) and 5.10 (64-bit) off ebay  - both official in-cardboard ship-it releases
[15:52] <TJ-> Lantizia: try ebay, I see some there
[15:52] <sappheiros> BluesKaj: what benefit does muon have over muon package manager?
[15:52] <Lantizia> TJ-, see above ^
[15:52] <Lantizia> i'm here because I've exhausted ebay lol
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: the flashplugin from the repos, seem pretty up to date to me, mentioning 2018 11 20
[15:52] <BluesKaj> sappheiros, are you usin muon-discover just plain muon?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> or
[15:53] <sappheiros> lotuspsychje: darn. :( should i just forget flash all together and play chess elsewhere? ... BluesKaj: which is from the start menu in bottom left corner?
[15:53] <sappheiros> i'm using the start menu's muon package manager
[15:53] <TJ-> Lantizia: you should email someone at Canonical; maybe they have some in a storage box somewhere :)
[15:53] <Lantizia> essentially I'm after this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Ubuntu_10.04_CDs.jpg
[15:54] <TheMesquito> Contact someone at Canonical, maybe they have some in a dusty warehouse somewhere  :P
[15:54] <Lantizia> TJ-, that's an idea
[15:54] <Lantizia> TheMesquito, same - good idea :)
[15:54] <sappheiros> i will try chess.com
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: holdon, let me test on chromium
[15:55] <Lantizia> i'm making an insane box that quad boots (using an iSCSI HBA card) WinME, OS X 10.6, WinXP and finally Ubuntu 10.04
[15:55] <BluesKaj> sappheiros, which Desktop Environment are you using?
[15:55] <sappheiros> lubuntu (qt?)
[15:55] <sappheiros> i think lubuntu 18.10 uses some qt thing
[15:55] <BluesKaj> yup, irt's plain muon afaik
[15:56] <Lantizia> WinME for the 9x games, WinXP for the early NT-era games, OS X 10.6 for older macOS games (inc. PPC based ones as it still had rosetta)  and finally... Ubuntu 10.04 - the last version to still have OpenSoundSystem v3 - needed for many turn of the century linux games :)
[15:56] <Lantizia> so it'd be nice to have all 4 OS's in their original discs on a shelf some place :)
[15:56] <Lantizia> luckily that's even possible for OS X 10.6 as that was the last to have physical media
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: works on chromium + pepperflash
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: i will add myself affected, and add experience
[15:58] <sappheiros> thank you
[15:58] <sappheiros> i am able to play the computer at chess.com and they say an account is free to play people, so it looks like chess.com > pogo.com for chess
[15:59] <TJ-> Lantizia: if you follow the 'form' link here you might be able to reach the correct people at Canonical. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ShipIt
[15:59] <sappheiros> is pepperflash an alternative to adobe flash?
[16:01] <Lantizia> TJ-, looks like it for LoCo teams - i got the form up but it says any requests from anyone else will be rejected
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: pepperflash you can install for chromium-browser
[16:01] <Lantizia> got a few contacts for people at canonical over the years anyways
[16:01] <Lantizia> if any of them still work there i'm sure they'll point me in the right direction
[16:01] <TJ-> Lantizia: yes, but all you need do is ask for a contact and explain what you're trying to do
[16:02] <kostkon> Lantizia, both alsa and pulse can emulate oss if you 'ask' them to, though
[16:03] <Lantizia> kostkon, look at the authors at the top of the page... https://sourceforge.net/projects/osspd/
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: updated your bug
[16:04] <kostkon> Lantizia, i rest my case
[16:04] <Lantizia> i mean I could run all 4 of these OS's in a VM - i can find work arounds for running all this software with hacks and tricks on a modern ubuntu (even the windows stuff, maybe not the mac stuff)
[16:05] <Lantizia> point is - sometimes it's nice to use real hardware with the reference OS
[16:05] <Lantizia> and I'm itching to try these iSCSI HBA cards
[16:05] <Lantizia> i ought to be able to make the machine diskless - and snapshot the OS's at any point I like
[16:13] <maksima> Hello, I tried to install simula from source (cim v 3.37 but kept getting errors running anything "segmentation fault") is there any simula version I can install using package manager? I need that for university project.
[16:16] <adrian_1908> maksima: It even segfaults on the most basic program, yes? Never used Simula, just asking.
[16:17] <maksima> adrian_1908: yes, even "hello world" does.
[16:25] <adrian_1908> maksima: no idea. I've heard of Simula before but judging by websearch, it seems to be of very low popularity these days (even in academia). Maybe try building the 5.1 version from https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/cim/ and see if that runs any better.
[16:27] <maksima> adrian_1908: will try now..
[16:30] <tellus83> Hello, i don't know if this it the righet place for this but. I have 2 motherbord whit LAN Bypass .. One of them i found the memory adress to change the state of this in the doc of the motherbord. But not for the secund one. Is there a way to find it ?
[16:33] <leonardus> lotuspsychje: avi, mp4
[16:33] <maksima> also failed.. simset.c:2:10: fatal error: ../../lib/cim.h: No such file or directory adrian_1908 ..
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: real weird, system up to date to latest also?
[16:34] <TJ-> maksima: it looks like there are some missing build dependencies
[16:35] <adrian_1908> maksima: when does that error occur, during `./configure`?
[16:35] <maksima> adrian_1908: no, during 'make'
[16:37] <leonardus> lotuspsychje: I've run apt update && apt upgrade
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: allright mate, mets create a bug on it?
[16:38] <TJ-> maksima: look at the build log; it is /full/ of awful errors, undefined symbols. The code quality is abbismal
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> lets
[16:38] <leonardus> I'm not entirely sure that it's a bug
[16:38] <hans_> what is the latest version of samba available for 18.04?
[16:38] <leonardus> maybe it's just something wrong with my system
[16:38] <TJ-> maksima: near the start for example, missing toupper symbol, because the file doesn't #include <ctype.h>
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> !latest | hans_
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: what do you suspect?
[16:39] <leonardus> lotuspsychje: driver issue maybe
[16:39] <TJ-> !info samba bionic | hans_
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: sudo lshw -C video ?
[16:39] <hans_> thanks. the info provided at https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/samba is incorrect
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> +2 points TJ-
[16:39] <leonardus> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/ZZrVRpJB
[16:39] <hans_> (namely, "samba is not available for 18.04")
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: seems active
[16:40] <maksima> TJ-: you are right... the code quality is rubbish!
[16:40] <adrian_1908> TJ-: right. I think Simula is largely abandoned. It's weird, I could swear I heard of it on multiple occasions but it barely returns any search results (relatively speaking).
[16:40] <TJ-> hans_: packages.u.c site is currently broken due to broken generator scripts
[16:40] <hans_> that explains it
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> leonardus: im pretty sure, vlc would work on a liveusb 18.04.1
[16:41] <maksima> TJ-: are there any simula compilers anywhere that work? adrian_1908
[16:41] <hans_> lotuspsychje, been there done that can confirm
[16:41] <TJ-> maksima: there are SO many warnings-as-errors being reported I'm almost convinced they've changed the build system and not updated the source or instructions. There's only 1 file that includes ctype.h, and that is src/file.h which isn't included in other source files
[16:42] <adrian_1908> maksima: you need to work with it frequently, yes? Otherwise I'd just use an online compiler.
[16:42] <TJ-> maksima: no others that I'm aware of
[16:42] <maksima> TJ-: adrian_1908 I will need it for the next 2 months..
[16:46] <hans_> !info 18.10 bionic
[16:46] <hans_> !info samba 18.10
[16:47] <hans_> sorry
[16:48] <adrian_1908> exclamation-mark <package> bionic :)
[16:48] <adrian_1908> exclamation-markinfo that is
[16:49] <TJ-> maksima: it looks like it needs some env defines to include the correct headers
[17:00] <senaps> hi all, i have installed danted and ocserv in ubuntu server 16.4, but i don't have any access to filtered websites i tried to bypass using danted or ocserv. but, i can connect to ocserv and then use my danted service!
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> senaps: come join to #ubuntu-server please
[17:02] <senaps> lotuspsychje, thanks. didn't know there was a channel for that.
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> senaps: welcome
[17:03] <maksima> TJ-: i am not very with C, but from your point of view, should I try making 5.1 code work or should I look for some other compilers ?
[17:12] <TJ-> maksima: I'm working through the source errors now, fixing them, if you can wait around a while
[17:14] <maksima> TJ-: if you help with that, I would really appreciate it if you even push into github for other people too! :)
[17:14] <maksima> TJ-: I will stand by..
[17:23] <hellslinger> I noticed that 18.04 automatically connected to my neighbor's iPhone over bluetooth, and I've never connected before. How do I prevent this from happening? This may have happened while my wireless was down for a short time
[17:25] <BluesKaj> au
[17:25] <BluesKaj> ac
[17:25] <BluesKaj> oops
[17:26] <BluesKaj> hellslinger, no pw proection maybe
[17:27] <hellslinger> BluesKaj: right, but I don't want my machine to connect to his phone just because his phone doesn't have pw... is that what you mean?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> yup
[17:28] <hellslinger> right, that doesn't seem like secure behavior, and it seems like there should be a way of disabling that. It's also rude for my machine to do that
[17:36] <BluesKaj> think your neighbor's Iphone is jailbroken
[17:42] <BluesKaj> bbl
[17:45] <SimonNL> hellslinger: type hciconfig --help in terminal ( install hciconfig if needed)  there is a block option in it
[17:45] <SimonNL> hellslinger: block by mac
[18:04] <inquisitiv3> It seems that the Ubuntu Package Search cant find any packages. Is it just me or are you people also having this problem?
[18:04] <inquisitiv3> https://packages.ubuntu.com/
[18:07] <OerHeks> there are 2 search windows, with a lot of options
[18:11] <inquisitiv3> I try to search packages by writing their name in the textbox below the heading "Search package directories".
[18:11] <inquisitiv3> No matches, regardless what I search for.
[18:11] <inquisitiv3> And I've tested "firefox" and "openjdk".
[18:14] <coconut> inquisitiv3: it's true, it only find packaged under Trusty or ALL.
[18:15] <coconut> *packages
[18:16] <TJ-> maksima: Who told you you need to use this? It is so full of fundamental breakage whoever wrote and published it should be sent to Antarctica!
[18:16] <OerHeks> if you use the 2nd window, packages that *contain* files whose names contain the keyword > https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=openjdk&mode=filename&suite=cosmic&arch=any
[18:16] <inquisitiv3> coconut: Do you know of a place there one can check if Canonical already know about the problem?
[18:16] <OerHeks> and then there is cosmic-updates, and so on
[18:17] <OerHeks> i agree, not that easy tool, but for advanced users pretty helpfull
[18:19] <TJ-> inquisitiv3: packages.u.c generating scripts are currently broken. Use "apt-file" to search locally instead
[18:19] <OerHeks> oh, it works here..
[18:19] <TJ-> inquisitiv3: "sudo apt install apt-file; sudo apt-file update; apt-file search '*path/to/file/fragment*' "
[18:21] <inquisitiv3> TJ-: Thanks for the info! The reason I tried the website is because I'm currently on a Debian system.
[18:21] <RonWhoCares> How do I configure a second ip address on my Ubuntu Desktop 18.04, using the same network and netmask as the server?  In other words my IP address is 192.168.0.81 .  I also need it to connect with a server that uses IP addresses that are 10.#.#.# ?
[18:22] <RonWhoCares> (In other words 2 IP addresses total)
[18:23] <ioria> inquisitiv3, use whohas
[18:27] <jelly> RonWhoCares has a single local physical network segment, but some machines have a 192.168.0.x/24 IP, and some have a 10.9.1.x/24 IP configured.  RonWhoCares wants to add a secondary 10.9.1.x/24 IP to the "my IP" machine ^ to be able to reach a 10.9.1.x/24 system
[18:27] <RonWhoCares> jelly: I just found this: https://askubuntu.com/a/547300/453336   Is that what you are describing
[18:28] <TJ-> inquisitiv3: you could create an ubuntu container for it, that's what I do for searching in releases other than the host is running
[18:29] <jelly> RonWhoCares: ip address add ... commands are appropriate but low level and their result is temporary, lost after reboot.
[18:29] <coconut> inquisitiv3: nope i don't know whether canonical already knows...  but i estimate it's a problem for more than a week now. So i guess they do.
[18:29] <jelly> RonWhoCares: /etc/network/interfaces is probably NOT the optimal place to store permanent config on 18.04
[18:30] <RonWhoCares> jelly: Bullet 2 is for permanent
[18:30] <inquisitiv3> TJ-, coconut: Thanks for the help and tips!
[18:30] <jelly> RonWhoCares: and it's not explicitely said to work on 18.04
[18:34] <TJ-> maksima: I think you can consider GNU cim-3.37 and cim-5.1 as write-offs - they are so broken it is not worth wasting time on them. You should make some loud complaints to anyone that tells you to use it
[18:35] <RonWhoCares> jelly: What I added didn't work :/
[18:46] <sircle> What could be wrong with ssh https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nvP3f2bHD2/
[18:47] <RonWhoCares> jelly: I've just posted my question on askubuntu.com
[18:48] <TJ-> RonWhoCares: if you're using desktop then Network Manager looks after such things, so you need to open the nmapplet in the notifcation area, choose "Edit Connection..." then choose the connection, goto the IPv4 tab, and add the additional details there
[18:57] <kreyren> TJ-: i was able to solve the issue with broken USB reciever by using virtualbox + windows 10 + Logitech Gaming Software which in it's root folder has firmware update for all supported headsets including firmware for USB reciever. I'm sharing this issue here since i still believe that ubuntu caused this issue with corrupted firmware on USB reciever. (Sorry for the long message)
[19:01] <ducasse> kreyren: iirc fwupd can update the firmware for the logitech unified receiver
[19:03] <kreyren> ducasse: This is not unified reciever its reciever for G533. Note that i'm sharing the solution in case this happends to other ppl
[19:03] <ducasse> kreyren: ah, ok. i just mentioned it fyi, maybe it was relevant to your issue :)
[19:05] <kreyren> ducasse: There is unified software from Logitech, but it didn't detected it. Seems that unified is used for old headsets and mouses. o.o
[19:06] <ducasse> kreyren: my logitech mouse uses it, it's a couple of years old
[19:06] <kreyren> ducasse: noted
[19:07]  * mouses perks up
[19:13] <spinningcat> hey
[19:13] <spinningcat> is there a program for making windows bootable in ubuntu?
[19:14] <kreyren> spinningcat: bootable in ubuntu meaning like using virtual machine or making an ISO?
[19:15] <TJ-> kreyren:  are you able to reproduce Ubuntu corrupting the device ?
[19:15] <spinningcat> iso
[19:16] <ducasse> spinningcat: there's something called woeusb, iirc
[19:16] <kreyren> spinningcat: My course of action would be to format it into a right filesystem (like using gparted) and then extracting the windows iso (which is available from official website usually) using `dd`. Check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CreateIsoFromCDorDVD
[19:17] <kreyren> spinningcat: i have also a good experience using rooted android phone and drivedroid or its alternative.
[19:18] <kreyren> TJ-: i wasn't but its my best bet assuming available info.
[19:18] <kreyren> spinningcat: Got it? Ask if you need more info no question is stupid.
[19:23] <spinningcat> woeusb sounds handy
[19:25] <TheMesquito> It works very well. I've only had one USB not boot while using it but that was bc of a faulty USB not woeusb
[19:27] <Kazdax> where do i find the screen lock option in ubuntu ?
[19:28] <sircle> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nvP3f2bHD2/ ssh issue
[19:29] <Kazdax> got it
[19:30] <phox_> hi! My wifi used to work perfectly, then i ran a command i didnt understand and now it doesn't find any networks. How do i see if the driver is correctly installed and loaded?
[19:31] <Mathisen> phox_, what command did you run
[19:32] <phox_> Mathisen, i ran:  sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi-opt.conf <<< "options iwlwifi bt_coex_active=N"
[19:34] <Mathisen> phox_, ok so open upp the file again and remove the added line
[19:34] <Mathisen> sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi-opt.conf
[19:38] <phox_> Mathisen, I mistakenly deleted it acctually, stupidly. I want to use a driver called "40-rtl8723be.conf" in that folder. Do i still need that iwlwifi-opt.conf?
[19:40] <Mathisen> i cant answer that. sorry
[19:40] <Mathisen> someone else in here may know
[19:41] <maksima> TJ-: I just hoped I can find a working Simula compiler.. I was told that v3.37 should work, but seems that was wrong..
[19:55] <databits> did anyone respond to my question ?
[19:55] <databits> my chat window closed out
[19:56] <Mathisen> databits, just ask again
[19:56] <databits> My audio is going out if my login screen pops up.... so if I let it sit without touching it for a while.
[19:56] <databits> when I restart the computer it fixes the audio problem.
[19:57] <databits> but if the login screen pops up it goes out again. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[19:57] <Kazdax> lock screen ?
[19:57] <Kazdax> just disable the lock screen
[19:58] <databits> where do I find the setting for that ?
[19:58] <Kazdax> on the power button ...the setting icon
[19:58] <Mathisen> is not that just ignoring the problem and not a fix
[19:58] <Kazdax> well yea i did my part
[19:58] <databits> ya I know
[19:58] <Kazdax> its what i know
[19:58] <fluvvell> scircle, at what stage did your ssh issue occur?
[19:59] <Mathisen> databits, what if you just run pavucontrol or alsamixer when audio is away anything not right in there ?
[19:59] <databits> ok where in the settings is the lock screen ?
[19:59] <Kazdax> you should see privacy
[19:59] <databits> I'm going to disable it so I don't lose my audio for now
[20:00] <Kazdax> under privacy you should have the option to toggle it off
[20:00] <databits> thanks
[20:00] <Intelo> Sending mail via echo "My message" | mail -s subject user@mail.com    works fine but when I send via a thirdpart nodemailer (nodejs lib), it says lost connection after RCPT. 451 4.3.0  <user@mail.com>: Temporary lookup failure;
[20:00] <Kazdax> np
[20:01] <Kazdax> noproblem
[20:03] <databits> anyone have any idea what might be causing the audio to quit once the lock screen pops up ?
[20:12] <hatsat32> hello
[20:13] <ducasse> phox_: rtl8723be is a very problematic chipset on linux
[20:14] <hatsat32> hello
[20:24] <LissajousPattern> hi
[20:41] <kgee> I started with stock ubuntu 18 and installed cinnamon. My wifi connects in cinnamon. Now when I try unity or kde my wireless refuses to connect or even give me a list of nearby networks
[20:42] <kgee> I'm not sure why network settings are desktop environment specific, but does anyone know why kde wont connect?
[20:44] <TJ-> kgee: sounds like it broke some libraries
[20:45] <kgee> TJ-, any guess as to which you suspect? Its inconvenient because I dont have internet in kde so troubleshooting is made even harder
[20:45] <ioria> kgee, no idea about kde, but on unity you can try to restart network-manager
[20:45] <kgee> ioria, I can try that
[20:46] <kgee> switching environments. brb
[20:50] <kgee> huh, rebooting the machine and logging straight into KDE worked. I suspect the DEs use different conflicting applications
[20:50] <kgee> thanks!
[20:52] <bprompt> kgee:    not all DE launch the same network manager, some may use gnome-nm-applet, some may use Wicd UI, KDE uses neither, they use their own Plasma widget to connect
[20:53] <bprompt> kgee:   so the wifi drivers are fine and the NetworkManager daemon may well be running, but the network connections UI is that one that wasn't working
[20:53] <SailorMoon> I was just about to say, IIRC kde uses plasma-nm
[20:53] <TJ-> kgee: pro tip: in a shell you can use "nmtui" (text user interface) and "nmcli" (command-line interface)
[20:54] <TJ-> kgee: e.g. "nmcli con up 'Connection name' "
[20:54] <TJ-> kgee: and "nmcli con" to list the connections and their current state
[20:55] <kgee> yeah, the applet loaded in my kde system tray, but all the option were greyed out. Now after a reboot it just autoconnected to the existing config. Command line options are great, but if you don't have them memorized its hard to remember them without being able to hit google
[20:55] <kgee> I'll try to remember nmcli for next time
[20:55] <kgee> though I hope to just stick with one DE and not hit this again
[20:56] <bprompt> kgee:   if the options were grayed out, usually means NetworkManager daemon isn't running, that or the wifi is off, and you can turn that off on many machines with a slider/switch on the side or even a keynboard combination
[20:57] <bprompt> kgee:   you can always jolt the wifi driver by reinstalling it
[20:58] <kgee> bprompt, it wasn't the physical switch. Wifi was working just fine before the login/logout to change DEs. Purely a software thing. likely a config conflict or resource lock from two competing applications
[20:58] <MadLamb> I'm having an issue with battery/charging on ThinkPad T440p with Ubuntu 18.04. Every 5 seconds my battery  indicator switches between charging/charged. That also switches my CPU performance from ~3000 Mhz to 700 Mhz. Any idea of what might be going wrong?
[20:58] <bprompt> kgee:   right.... sounds like it... then it was the network connections app
[20:58] <TJ-> kgee: communcation is done via Dbus so possibly the environment was wrong
[20:59] <TJ-> MadLamb: check the kernel log for clues: "journalctl -b"
[22:19] <jasabella> hmmmm is http://packages.ubuntu.com down?
[22:21] <coconut> jasabella: might well be. I have seen a complain about the search capability of it today.
[22:21] <hyperlumic> Appears to be. I was getting nonsensical responses from queries earlier.
[22:21] <hyperlumic> Things like "linux-image-virtual" not existing in bionic.
[22:22] <Ool> jasabella: not responding at all for me
[22:23] <hyperlumic> Same.
[22:24] <jasabella> yeah i was getting no search results a few hours ago, thought it'd be ok by now
[22:28] <Tr4sh> hello I have this error when I install package or upgrade the system https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/msBSMXh24G/ how I can fix it?
[22:29] <jdownie> @Tr4sh... does this help
[22:29] <jdownie> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[22:29] <jdownie> ?
[22:30] <Tr4sh> jdownie: nope..i tried also sudo apt install -f but same error
[22:33] <hyperlumic> What command did you enter to get that error?
[22:34] <jdownie> Whoa, looks like it's not a simple issue
[22:34] <jdownie> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2338267
[22:34] <Tr4sh> hyperlumic: with sudo apt upgrade or sudo apt install [package]
[22:42] <Tr4sh> jdownie: hmm so the solution is to reinstall the system? =-O
[22:42] <Ool> did you try sudo apt-get install -f  ?
[22:42] <Ool> ok I see
[22:43] <OerHeks> i think you need to run apt full-upgrade
[22:44] <Tr4sh> OerHeks: I did it, also apt dist-upgrade
[22:47] <OerHeks> what linux is this? mint?
[22:50] <Tr4sh> lubuntu with ubuntu 18.04
[22:52] <Nexilva> https://amzn.to/2zC8q9z Does this SSD need driver?
[22:55] <tomreyn> Nexilva: no affiliate links here, please
[22:59] <Nexilva> Huh? I get from heardware chennel
[22:59] <Nexilva> I use Kubuntu
[22:59] <Nexilva> I go there?
[22:59] <Nexilva> hardware
[22:59] <OerHeks> basicly an ssd does not need a driver
[23:00] <OerHeks> just make sure your system has the latest bios update, and have fun
[23:11] <auctus> my dell laptop with a haswell cpu running 18.04 no longer recognizes my hdmi external monitor, and i cant figure out why; it worked a few days ago and all ive done in the past few days is install wine and libsdl2
[23:11] <auctus> actually its a DVI monitor with an HDMI->DVI cable, has worked fine all year
[23:12] <OerHeks> maybe it is just the FN + monitor intern/ext key
[23:13] <auctus> i tried that, nothing comes up, nothing listed in displays either, xrandr says nothing connected to HDMI
[23:14] <auctus> xrandr --query says HDMI-1 disconnected
[23:18] <auctus> its a software thing for sure, the monitor shows the little unplugged thing when you unplug the hdmi, so the monitor somehow knows its connected, but ubuntu doesnt
[23:23] <Tr4sh> i solved with this command sudo apt-get --reinstall install python3-debian (if someone had the same issue)
[23:39] <tadaua> hello.. i want to install linux.. i see ubuntu is popular.
[23:39] <tadaua> but i see desktop.. it looks something that is ment for tablets..
[23:40] <OerHeks> there are many desktops, see !flavors
[23:40] <OerHeks> !flavor
[23:40] <tadaua> is there something that reminds more of a classic desktop ?
[23:40] <tadaua> gnome2 -> gnome3.. just..what happend?
[23:42] <tomreyn> if you prefer the mre classic gnome2 looks, then look into budgie, mate, xubuntu
[23:43] <tadaua> lubuntu seems what i want.
[23:45] <Younder> tadaua, linux mint is a gnome 2 desktop lookalike
[23:50] <OerHeks> .. but we do not support mint, just saying
[23:50] <tadaua> i desided to go for lubuntu.. i dont need some fancy desktop with lots of eyecandy. its looks like a simple classical type one.
[23:51] <OerHeks> !info Gnome-Pie
[23:52] <Younder> There is a big family called debian and ubuntu is a part of that universe. So is linux mint and rasperrian for that matter. The setup for ubuntu is different, but otherwise all debian systems behave in a similar matter
[23:53] <tadaua> whats diff between debian and ubuntu. besides ubuntu beeing more upto date?
[23:53] <Younder> Like the setup of apache in ubuntu is different than for most other debian installs.
[23:55] <Younder> ubuntu is more minimalistic. debian includes everything and the kitchen sink. Form a security perspective installing only what you use is preferable.
[23:57] <auctus> still googling and still cant figure it out, hmm.
[23:57] <tadaua> so.. basically what you are saying is that.. with ubuntu i end up doing alot of sudo apt-install this and that after the install compared to debian?? since when i want X app install it already has the libs and stuff?
[23:58] <tadaua> gcc/g+ stuff and all that
[23:58] <Younder> tadaua, Well I do. But it depends on what you are using the system for.
[23:59] <tadaua> take over the world :D