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didrocksgood morning07:32
dufluMorning didrocks07:45
duflu(really the first one today)07:45
didrocksgood morning duflu ;)07:48
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tjaaltonduflu: btw, eglexternalplatform headers are now in debian new queue.. egl-wayland will follow, but knowing how slowly the queue is processed I should probably upload them for disco too08:11
duflutjaalton, thanks. Is that the exact package name?08:14
tjaaltonduflu: source package yes08:14
tjaalton-dev for the binary08:15
duflutjaalton, that appears to be different to https://github.com/NVIDIA/egl-wayland though, right?08:17
tjaaltonit's needed for egl-wayland08:17
tjaaltonwhich isn't in the queue yet08:18
dufluOh08:18
dufluSo it is08:18
tjaaltoneglexternalplatform uploaded to disco08:24
RAOFtjaalton: oh, could you kindly cherry-pick the two post-1.1.0 commits into egl-wayland?08:27
tjaaltonRAOF: immediately after the tag?08:28
RAOFThey're required for Mir in order to actually have the wl_eglstream_controller symbols exported.08:28
RAOFYeah, immediately after the tag.08:28
tjaaltonalright08:28
RAOFOh.08:29
RAOFYou probably also want https://github.com/NVIDIA/egl-wayland/commit/e3b96b859d6a6d8de717bd3e4a75139553fe702708:29
RAOFSo, maybe just pull master 😀08:30
RAOFThe 1.1.0 release might not have been the finest release to start with 😀08:31
tjaaltonyeah the top commit looks to be required as well08:31
clobranogood morning all o/08:59
didrockshey clobrano08:59
willcookemorning guys08:59
didrocksmorning willcooke09:00
clobranohey didrocks, how's it going?09:00
willcookehi didrocks, bien?09:00
seb128good morning desktopers09:00
didrocksclobrano: I'm good, thanks, yourself?09:00
didrockswillcooke: ça va, et toi ?09:00
clobranodidrocks: I'm good as well :)09:01
willcookej'ai mal aux gorge.09:01
didrocksargh, chacun son tour :p09:01
willcookeThe kids had a sickness bug over the weekend.  Back to normal now, but it was The Exorcist there for a while.  I wonder if I've picked something up from them09:02
dufluMorning clobrano, willcooke, seb12809:02
Laneymew09:02
didrockswillcooke: classical09:02
didrockshey Laney09:02
dufluruf Laney09:02
clobranomorning duflu, willcooke, seb128 :)09:02
seb128hey willcooke duflu Laney clobrano didrocks etc :)09:03
willcookehi seb128, clobrano duflu Laney09:03
didrocksre seb12809:03
Laneywhat's up!!!!!!!09:03
seb128it's monday \o/09:03
LaneyMAKE SOME NOISEEEEEEE09:03
dufluall the desktop people, in the, umm, house09:04
* duflu goes to make a decaf and would offer Laney one too if he was closer09:04
seb128w.e are nice but exhausting, I feel tired and with a start of a cold again :/09:04
Laney:(09:05
didrocksargh seb128 ;)09:05
* Laney brings seb128 a blanket and sends him away09:05
didrocksthe benefit of this is no excuse for a hot chocolate :)09:06
seb128Laney, thx :)09:06
willcookeandyrock, seb128 - I heard back from Michele re: the ordering of the window previews in the launcher.  He's merged the code to make the previews appear in the same order and will be dropping the old way (most recently opened at the top) totally. Could we rebase our Ubuntu branch?  It should have landed in the upstream main now.  Also - I had to ask him something for you and I can't remember what.  I'll search the logs.09:07
seb128willcooke, commit access for andyroc_k09:08
seb128thx09:08
willcookeseb128, damn you're good.09:08
willcookeseb128, just to our branch right?09:08
seb128:)09:08
seb128yes, but unsure you can have acl by branch?09:09
didrocksyeah, you can, this is how it is setup now09:09
didrocksthe thing is that you can't then create new branches09:09
seb128and yeah, it merged it upstream in https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/commit/86f4404df09:09
didrockslike a maintainance branch09:09
seb128well, that's fine I guess, we don't need those as often so requesting an admin is ok09:10
seb128though andy wanted to discuss just moving to use a standard gbp workflow on launchpad as we do for other desktop components09:11
didrocksagreed, and I don't think for non LTS version, those makes sense anyway09:11
didrockshum09:11
didrocksI don't understand why people really hate just git merge && gbp buildpackage09:11
didrocksand prefer a 10 steps long feet process :/09:11
seb128I think the issue is principaly lack of consitency and having to figure out what is the worklow there09:12
didrocksespecially as the current setup create the orig tarball and debian diff for you automatically09:12
didrocksyeah, if I don't have to make releases of it, I think, do the best for you09:12
seb128different location, different acl, different mp process09:12
didrocksI don't care about location/acl09:12
seb128I'm just guessing why he wanted it in the same format/location than others09:12
didrocksyeah, and those makes sense09:12
seb128but let's wait for him to be around rather than guessing :)09:12
didrockshowever, degrading the release process by other a complicated one on this…09:13
didrocksif I'm not the one making upgrade/releases, on it then, I'm fine09:13
didrocksotherwise, I disagree09:13
seb128right09:13
didrocksthe process will never be the same anyway: upstream tarballs won't be named ubuntu-dock09:15
didrocksand there is no debian VCS for ubuntu-dock09:16
didrocks(same than ubuntu-settings and other ubuntu-only projects, we might then want to release tarballs and move all of them if the argument is consistency, which is acceptable, but adding a lot of work for not a real gain + a lot of additional work at each release IMHO)09:20
seb128yeah, let's wait for andyrock, I'm unsure what was his main motivation09:23
seb128if that was the fact that he's difficult to find a sponsor/someone with acls as it's set up today09:23
seb128like I can't merge for him atm09:24
didrocksI have nothing against moving to launchpad, this adds a little bit of overhead, but fine09:24
seb128he's -> it's09:24
didrocksI'm more opposed in changing to a gbp workflow though09:24
seb128right, that sounds fair enough09:24
seb128especially if that's the sort of projects where we do snapshots rather than tarballs09:24
seb128which probably makes sense in that context09:25
didrocksexactly09:25
seb128so +1 from me09:25
seb128I'm fine with either moving the branch to launchpad or adding people to github if that's possible09:25
didrocksI have no strong opinion, the only difference is that we have 2 places to deal with when we add something upstream09:26
didrocksbut I think it's doable09:26
didrocksif we are going to move to launchpad, we'll have to setup a proper project and so on, but nothing too hard09:26
tjaaltonRAOF, duflu: egl-wayland uploaded to both debian new and disco09:31
tjaaltonfinally..09:31
duflutjaalton, you're my hero09:32
RAOFWoot! Thanks!09:32
dufluIs there a URL for it? I can't find it09:33
tjaaltonwhich url are you looking for?09:35
dufluThe Debian page, but I guess it will update within minutes09:36
tjaaltonyeah I think it'll take a while09:37
tjaaltonin the meantime you'll have this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=09:37
tjaalton:)09:37
dufluFor unrelated reasons I was going to do some Nvidia work soon, so I guess I can verify this too09:38
willcookethanks tjaalton duflu RAOF09:43
k_alamseb128: Hi, good morning......we talked about reviewing unity patches10:14
seb128k_alam, hey, yes, were those the 2 u-c-c ones?10:15
k_alamone u-c-c, one u-s-d10:15
k_alamhttps://code.launchpad.net/~khurshid-alam/unity-settings-daemon/media-keys-fix/+merge/35993510:15
k_alamand10:16
k_alamhttps://code.launchpad.net/~khurshid-alam/unity-control-center/fix-image-preview/+merge/35993710:16
seb128I saw them on the list, I try to have a look today10:16
k_alamThanks. :)10:17
* andyrock forgot to say "good morning all"11:52
jbichadidrocks: "no debian vcs for ubuntu-dock" < I guess we could upload it to Debian…12:07
jbichagood morning12:07
seb128jbicha, hey, that comment is not very constructive/useful in the context of the discussion which was about whether it was fine to have the packaging branch or github12:31
jbichaI don't see it as unconstructive12:33
jbichahttps://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator is in Debian, but appindicator is a far simpler extension to package12:33
seb128it has nothing to do with the topic discussed though12:34
seb128but feel free to package it for Debian if you wish12:35
popeyWhere should bugs against https://snapcraft.io/snap-store go? (Also it's a bug that the page doesn't say where bugs go) kenvandine ?12:58
seb128popey, we don't have a standard solution for bug reporting against snaps do we?13:01
jbichaseb128: are you aware of https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snaps-officially-supported-by-canonical/1719 ?13:06
seb128jbicha, yes, why?13:07
popeyseb128: well, i tend to suggest people put bug links in the descriptions13:07
popeyunfortunately the link jbicha provided is outdated13:08
seb128popey, k, that seems suboptimal :(13:08
popeyindeed13:08
seb128well, that page is also a patch-solution at best13:08
seb128not a proper answer to the problem13:08
popeyperhaps we need a bug against the snap store to allow is to expose how to file bugs against the snap-store snap13:09
popey:)13:09
seb128lol13:10
popeyI mean, we do, really. I'll speak to store people and see what the plans are.13:11
seb128that would be nice13:11
popeyhttps://forum.snapcraft.io/t/metadata-key-for-bug-trackers/160413:17
popeylooks like it was already briefly discussed, outcome "use the contact field". So we could do that in the short term.13:17
willcookeAnyone heard of a gnome-shell issue where once the screensaver kicks in you can't get back to a working desktop and have to reboot?14:10
willcooke18.04 machine upgraded from 16.0414:10
popeyYes, if the system updated via unattended-upgrades while the screensaver was up14:10
willcookeoh ho ho14:11
willcookethat14:11
willcookeI thought we'd stopped that from happening though14:11
willcookepopey, aware of a fix?  Is it a dist-upgrade again?14:12
popeyI just dropped to tty and kill the login manager14:12
popeyso effectively reboot14:12
willcookethis is happening all the time though, not just during upgrade14:12
willcookeor am I missing somethign?14:12
popeyoh14:12
popeyI don't know about that14:12
willcookekk14:12
willcookethx14:13
popeynp14:13
seb128willcooke, you mean you updated a 16.04 machine and it looked during the upgrade and you couldn't unlock then?14:17
willcookeseb128, no, it sounds like (and I've not seen the machine in question yet) but everytime the screensaver kicks in (and I assume it's actually suspending) it cant wake up again14:18
willcookeI've asked for logs, but I might go and look at this one, since Sarah said that someone else in the office has the same thing14:18
kenvandinepopey: i'll add bug reporting to the snap-store snap in the store14:18
popey<3 thanks14:18
kenvandineonce i decide where i want that to be :)14:19
kenvandinemy first thought is gitlab14:19
kenvandinebut we're ending up with bugs all over the place14:19
willcookekenvandine, hey!  Is this anything to do with magazine view?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/180614614:24
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1806146 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/gnome-software:11:magazine_chain_pop_head:thread_memory_magazine1_alloc:g_slice_alloc:g_slice_alloc0:g_type_create_instance" [Undecided,New]14:24
willcookeOr just a clash of names14:24
kenvandineclash of names14:24
willcookekk, thx14:24
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popeykenvandine: willcooke I have -1'd our catch up later. Our team are having fewer meetings this week. If you had anything specific to discuss, feel free to ping a mail over <315:37
willcookepopey, ack, wfm15:37
popeyWimpress: ^15:37
kenvandinepopey: wfm15:45
willcookenight all, cubs tonight18:17
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