 @KMyers @Ivoriesablaze found a picture on reddit of both the keyboards we were talking about https://i.redd.it/jivktltnr2x01.jpg
 Someone has that keyboard at the office. He 3D printed it and the keys.
 The one with the orange keys.
 yeah, we're all gonna give that a shot as well, i think
 It looks like the dactyl really is 1:1 with the kinesis without the bulk and is a little smaller than the manuform (the brown one)
 I like the idea of the layers and that I can take it with me as portable, which complements the kinesis
 @KMyers That numberpad in the middle, I imagine you could do something like that or another custom keypad for your arrow and special keys
 or just use a keyboard layer
 https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=57 looks like they average about a dollar per switch and the dactyl has about 70, but I think some distributors you can get it for under a dollar
 interesting
 how many keys do you think minimum?
 70 I think
 hm... still a pretty sizable investment
 Yes, you could put cheaper switches in but that's the buy-in for a mechanical keyboard
 true
 You said you liked red?
 yep