[00:00] oh, then install mint asap [00:00] but then I use salt stack as a provisioning tool to keep track of changes i make to the system. That way if I have to install from backup saltstack can help me restore all the packages the way I like them. [00:01] Younder: ubuntu minimalistic and debian kitchen sink? you got it the wrong way around, son. [00:01] tried it on the TV too, doesnt work there either, so its like the laptop just doesnt see any HDMI anywhere, hmm [00:06] alright what in the actual fuck, rebooted (again), have not touched any config files, updated or installed anything today, reboot didnt fix it an hour ago, and yet now its fixed [00:06] so problem solved... i guess :p [00:06] alright.. time to install this lubuntu, no more coffee in my cup and usb stick done. === WoC` is now known as WoC [00:41] is there a software to connect remote desktop of windows? [00:42] spinningcat: any of a number of RDP clients (including Remmina) [00:42] spinningcat: i assume yuo mean to connect *to* remote desktop sessions of Windows [00:42] not connect *from* Windows to Ubuntu for remote desktop sessions of the Ubuntu system [00:43] teward, yes [00:43] from ubuntu yes [00:43] remmina let me check that [00:51] Anydesk works both, from ubuntu, and from windows. So you can control from either. [00:53] has anyone successfully scaled two different PPI monitors in ubuntu ? [00:54] I have a 4k and a 1080p, and the window controls and fonts are... disparate! [00:55] running Ubuntu 18:04 [00:59] Ubuntu lock screen keeps freezing after it locks from inactivity [00:59] and the sidebar (where the icons are on the left) shows up in lock screen [00:59] I have had to hard reset multiple times because of it [00:59] this is 18.10 [00:59] no issue in 18.04 [01:00] any solutions to this issue? [01:00] if not, how can I go about downgrading? [01:00] and how I restart the display manager? systemctl restart gdm3 doesn't do anything [01:00] I've lost work because of this issue [01:01] Tin_man, with any desk someone have to need your connection [01:03] not mine [01:03] just dial in and control my ubuntu from my windows.. or vise versa [01:04] it has unattended access [01:06] snap instead of apt? [01:07] i just did sudo apt install anydesk [01:07] i did [01:07] sudo snap install remmina [01:07] i've not tried remmina. might sometime. [01:08] i have anydesk [01:08] ubuntu also have teamviewer [01:08] now remmina [01:09] yes I also like teamviewer, but they kinda pissed me off, so i went with anydesk. [01:09] fengshaun: i've never heard of that being an issue, but as for downgrading there's no easy way to downgrade - mostly, you'd just do a clean install of the older version after backing up your data and then restore the data afterwards. [01:09] unlikely that anydesk the binairy blob is in our repos [01:10] btw would you trust such service through their servers? [01:11] all i use mine for is mudane chores, so not worried, I use it mostly to check on my dogs, through webcams.. when my wife and I are out. [01:26] I'm having a problem.... when my lock screen pops up it is causing my audio to stop working. When I restart the audio works again. Any idea's ? [01:32] teward, *sigh* that's unfortunate [01:51] hey guys, what file manager lets me execute binary files and scripts from it? [01:52] i know thunar and nautilus don't let me, but is there any others that do? [01:54] maybe you need the nautilus-admin plugin [01:54] !info nautilus-admin [01:54] nautilus-admin (source: nautilus-admin): Extension for Nautilus to do administrative operations. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.3-1 (bionic), package size 7 kB, installed size 56 kB [01:54] roracle: you can tell nautilus to run scripts in the preferences [01:59] OerHeks: this will allow executing binary files and .desktop/links/symlinks as well? The issue is, I have a few pieces of software that only download in binary format (one easy example is ioQuake3) and it traditionally doesn't allow for it in the newer file managers (I'm not sure why, it's a rather basic function, and the explination from devs isn't convincing) [02:01] also tgm4883 see my above mention oerhek [02:02] roracle: it should, It would be easy enough to test [02:03] well i'm going between desktops testing things out, and i'm about to just do a fresh install because now i have too many config files and too many settings to too many things in my menus (and it's easier to just do a fresh install at this point) so i want to make sure i'll be able to install something that gets right to the point. [02:04] lol it feels like i'm back in the day running Mandrake with all these apps that do the same things lol [02:04] roracle: you shouldn't need to install anything to make that work [02:04] roracle: also, you shouldn't need to install, you could just make a new account [02:04] yeah, it just seemed to be complicated when i first started doing all this, that's the problem [02:05] so i'm at the point where i've backed things up and just ready for something fresh, no worries about all that really, i just want to make sure i install a distro that is going to have full capabilities of what i wanted to do here [02:06] but if nautilus can do this then there isn't an issue going to base ubuntu again, which seems to work best most of the time. but i have yet another issue which is the global-menu (i really liked that feature from OSX and Unity, but now it seems like a pipe dream) === mouton-jaune is now known as beaver === capella|away is now known as capella [03:53] <_Sym_> hi, I just installed 18.04 and I'm having an issue with livepatch-notif being defunct [03:54] <_Sym_> is there a way to fix that? [03:54] <_Sym_> fresh install [04:30] tinycorelinux is really neat stuff. [04:46] dcore is the ubuntu version but its minimal space requirements were still like 400 mb [04:48] i can fully load tinycore with dev packages and still be under 1gb [04:48] pcmanfm file manager [04:50] dcore is not the ubuntu version of tinycore [04:50] i used bionic packages for it [04:51] it uses sceload instead of tceload [04:51] It's not an official release and it's only affiliation is it uses the ubuntu repos for it's packages [04:52] The closest thing Ubuntu has is Ubuntu Core : https://www.ubuntu.com/core [04:52] it crappy part is the sce files need to be extracted each boot [04:52] its not like the tce squashfs packages [04:55] Ubuntu core 16 lts looks outdated [05:09] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/18/stable/current/ === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius [05:22] hello [05:22] how do you COMPLETELY disable video ouput [05:22] i'm trying to passthrough intel integrated graphics [05:23] and cannot do that because it vomits letters and changes mode when booting [05:23] I want to see nothing while booting [05:23] is that possible? [05:23] i was wondering how licences are suposed to be distributed in packages on the system ? /usr/local/licences/appname.licence ? [05:24] Hi, can you advice, i did upgrade from xenial -> bionic, and now it asks me to remove tons of packages... I checked a random package for which release it belongs to, and it says it's from bionic... Why it want's to remove it ? [05:25] https://pastebin.com/Yp4Q9Mm5 [05:26] Net|: they're usually in /usr/share/doc/pkgname/copyright [05:26] thanks [05:29] because bionic is retarded [05:31] nothing fucking works [05:32] Is there a good (preferably cli/curses) documentation reader for packages like weechat-doc? Or are we really supposed to apt-file and then less it all? [05:49] is there any way that I can limit the buffer/cache used on ubuntu 14.04? My os is using too much memory for cache/buffer, the application is running lack of memory, sometimes it failed to allocate memory. [05:50] Did the kernel package get renamed? [05:50] From linux-image-* to something else [05:51] epicmetal, ? what kernel package? [05:52] Ouyes: for example the package that owns /boot/vmlinuz* on 18.10 [05:52] I don't have an installed system in front of me to check [05:52] epicmetal, how to check that? I get a ubuntu 14.04 amd64 [05:52] Too old [05:53] Doesn't matter, I'll check later [05:53] Just trying to see if 18.10 is affected by this ext4 data loss bug [05:54] Seems like it's 4.18 but I'm not sure if an update bumps it [06:03] Ouyes: buffer/cache doesn't stop applications from using memory [06:04] Ben64, it is , the free memory become really low, then there will be memory allocation failure [06:05] Ouyes: that just means you ran out of memory, it's not because of cache [06:56] Q: are LXD containers just hardened lxc, with seccomp and apparmor, etc, or do they use kvm in addition to that? I can't find a straight answer, I hear it called a "hypervisor" though, and I'm curious how this works. [07:03] adamantium: they don't use kvm, ask in #lxcontainers for details [07:04] Anyone managet to install zathura mupdf plugin on ubuntu? [07:07] ducasse: ty for that channel .. === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje === capella is now known as capella|away [07:33] Hello, you probably know it already or I want to report it, but archives are broken, they are recursively redirecting to the same folder. [07:52] pixel6692: wich archives [07:55] lotuspsychje: for example: http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ when i go to /ubuntu/, I get back to ubuntu ... or is it only for me? [07:58] pixel6692: yep, same issue on my side [07:58] same for de. sk. etc, etc. [07:58] tnx for the report pixel6692 we will spread the word [08:01] pixel6692: the #ubuntu-mirrors guys say its normal behaviour, simlink to / [08:04] One of my monitors (TV that i use as a monitor) keeps black screening randomly. Can you help me diagnose it and fix it? [08:05] kreyren: as in flickering or it goes black parmanently and you have to do something? [08:05] This issue seems to be triggered by running Artifact. [08:05] SwedeMike: Goes black randomly and then it recovers. [08:05] kreyren: how long is it black? [08:06] SwedeMike: i would say up to 5 sec max. [08:06] hello seniors, is there a way to sync android xiaomi, with ubuntu 18.04.1 without 3rd party cloud? .. i need to sync my libreoffice, notes, calendar, gnome todo. [08:06] thank you for advise [08:07] kreyren: what resolution are you running? HDMI-cable? graphics hardware? [08:07] SwedeMike: HDMI cable on 1080p 50/60Hz running AMD7870 on vulkan-mesa-drivers and AMDGPU. [08:08] kreyren: how long is the HDMI cable? [08:08] (radeon is blacklisted in /etc/default/grub) [08:08] SwedeMike: 2m +- [08:08] Note that it worked on Gentoo/Windows no issue before. [08:09] kreyren: ok, that was interesting information. [08:09] kreyren: if you would have mentioned that initially you would have saved both of us a lot of time. [08:10] SwedeMike: meaning? [08:10] kreyren: then I wouldn't have asked you any of the questions I asked you above. [08:10] SwedeMike: i dont understand? [08:11] kreyren: I tried to help you diagnose a potential hardware problem when there was none. [08:11] SwedeMike: ? [08:13] kreyren: most likely this is a driver problem. I have idea how to solve that. If you would have said before that it worked with a different operating system that would have ruled out a HW problem and I wouldn't even had to spend any time on it because I have no idea how to diagnose this driver problem. [08:14] http://xyproblem.info/ [08:14] SwedeMike: o.o [08:15] SwedeMike: ok thanks for the info [08:38] do you guys have any quick input method for English, when you are trying to key in long words, can the input method auto-generate when you typed the beginning 4 or 5 letters? [08:59] so I have a ubuntu installer on a USB, everytime I reformat the USB I always get booted by the installer prompt whne booting with the usb in [08:59] is there a way to wipe out the usb completely [08:59] I suspect there is a bootloader thing still present on the key [09:01] azi`, sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1k count=2048 [09:01] change sdX to your usb [09:02] is this gonna get rid of the parition table as well? [09:02] everything yes [09:02] Mathisen: and more if partition 1 starts at sector 34! [09:03] Mathisen: thanks [09:03] i kinda took it for granted that whatever was on sdX was ok to delete [09:03] TJ-, so it would not mather [09:04] Mathisen: if the entire device is being (re)formatted then the boot-loader wouldn't survive. azi` Are you formatting the entire USB, or partitions on it? [09:08] TJ-: entire usb [09:11] azi`: in which case doing e.g. "sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdZ" would wipe out any existing bootloader in sector 0. [09:14] TJ-: but doing what Mathisen suggested would not be a good idea? [09:15] azi`: well, no, not if you've just written a file-system to the device! [09:15] not a bad idea, his idea may be more "sane" [09:16] azi`: what Mathisen was recommending was wiping out any remains in the partitioning free space of a boot loader - that won't be there if the entire device is a file-system [09:16] azi`: the problem is, the term "formatting it" is confusing since we can never be sure what the "it" is - the entire device, or a partition :) [09:16] i see, thank you guys [09:17] azi`: and if by reformatting you mean writing another ISO image to it ... we'd expect it to boot :) [09:18] yeah i am making a bootable usb [09:18] since you guys seem to know this area [09:18] do you know if its possible to crete a bootable usb [09:18] that I can remove once ubuntu is loaded? [09:18] could have just dd whatever iso to your usb directly then [09:19] ie so that ubuntu is running completely from the ram [09:19] azi`: sure, it's often done that way with full disk encryption [09:19] azi`: Oh, hang on, that is something else entirely! [09:20] azi`: when a Live ISO boots, it mounts a read-only squashfs and then makes a tmpfs overlay (tmpfs is RAM). It still needs the squashfs to be there on the USB itself though [09:21] azi`: any *changes* get written only to RAM, but the PC still needs read-only access to the USB to load parts of the squashfs (which is the root file-system) [09:21] right [09:21] I wonder if there is a way to overcome that [09:24] azi`: there is, but it would require some manual customisation. Assuming the PC has plenty of RAM (say at least 8GB) it would be possible to copy the squashfs into a RAM tmpfs using scripts in the initialramfs (initrd.img), and then pivot onto that rather than the USB. Once userspace starts the USB would be free to go [09:25] by manual you mean a script that would do that? [09:25] or system to system dependant customisation [09:28] azi`: an additional custom script added into the ISO image === Butterfly^ is now known as Guest89290 === mkv is now known as m4v [09:58] I have a strange problem at home, maybe someone can help: I have a PC with a gtx760 and latest nvidia driver 415.xx, running ubuntu gnome [09:59] xrandr sees my TV at 60 hz, nvidia-settings too, but in ubuntu settings the refresh rate can't go higher than 30hz [09:59] and it's ofc rendering at 30hz [09:59] seems like mutter can't catch the correct refresh rate [09:59] any help is greatly appeciated [10:01] zoologist: i think ive seen a bug about mutter & refresh limit passby recently [10:02] i've seen stuff like this on gitlab for various issues, but people are locked at 60hz because of hardcoded values, which is not my case [10:03] also my gtx 760 is kinda old and i haven't tried 304 driver which seems to be the last to correctly support it [10:03] zoologist: can you check, if this suits your case? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1763892 [10:03] Launchpad bug 1763892 in mutter (Ubuntu Cosmic) "144Hz/120Hz monitor but mutter seems to cap rendering at 60FPS" [Medium,Triaged] [10:03] but i feel it's a mutter problem [10:03] zoologist: wich kernel are you on mate? [10:04] last available as i upgraded yesterday [10:04] bionic? [10:04] is 18.10 running wayland by default ? [10:04] lotuspsychje: 18.10 [10:04] zoologist: no, xorg is default [10:04] the bug report is for wayland i think [10:05] so it doesn't cover my case unfortunately [10:06] zoologist: a few ideas: test an LTS live to compare, try another kernel, try wayland login [10:06] lotuspsychje: i'll try tonight, thank you [10:09] zoologist: i think, if there are known bugs about mutter not taking the correct rate, your case is something similar right === mkv is now known as m4v [10:20] Hello everyone! [10:20] Can someone please help me with this : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2407182 ? === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius [10:25] afx_, a semi-recent ubuntu podcast talked about how you could re-program a second keyboard so that every key on it the second keyboard could be used as a programmable function key (ie. you can determine what each key does)... I don't remember much about it, but it may be useful to your 'quest'.. [10:30] guiverc, the strange thing is that the OS does not differentiate the keypress with NumLock enabled and disabled [10:32] yes I'm not surprised with that (given the discussion, it was every key, or combination, eg. ctrl+1, shift+1 - but didn't allow for numlock on/off), but given it was programmable, I'd suspect you'd just have to toggle state on/off as to which function is called/performed... === mkv is now known as m4v [10:35] lotuspsychje: yes it seams to be. From what i understand about the issues tho is that they fallback on hardcoded values, which are missing their proper refresh rate [10:36] mine doesn't seem to have hardcoded values, i get 30,03hz and a bunch of others close to 30 [10:36] guiverc, this is the output of xev https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NJ5jzKtzy3/ [10:36] guiverc, keycode is 90 but keysym is KP_Insert / KP_0 [10:38] lotuspsychje: and it the bug report it states wayland, i'm on Xorg [10:39] afx_, i know nothing about it sorry, I just have two keyboards on my machine (my beloved model m, plus another with media keys) & liked the idea of using more than 5-7 keys on the second keyboard on my desk (plus my other desk..) [10:40] (that's the main reason I took interest & remember some of the podcast talk..) [10:40] guiverc, so have you tried what this podcast was talking about ? [10:40] afx_: usually there are 2 symbols associated with those keys. NumLock on should select the first, NumLock off the second [10:40] Not yet I suppose :) [10:41] nope - i loved the idea, and would love to, but haven't tried (and doubt I would.. - it was interesting to me..) [10:41] TJ-, is there a way I can force that feature , cause atm I think there is only one symbol associated [10:42] guiverc, ok np [10:46] afx_: in your forum post you said "However when I set the keyboard shortcut ..." ... how/where are you setting the shortcut, because the symptom sounds like that tool is actually using the underlying key-code, not the key-symbol [10:49] TJ-, https://ibb.co/cbJkgrz [10:50] With NumLock ON/OFF same shortcut is triggered , i.e. Switch to workspace 1/2 , TJ- [10:50] afx_: is the Gnome? [10:50] TJ-, yes [10:51] afx_: I don't use that so not familiar with what it does under the hood, but if NumLock works in normal typing, the symtpoms you describe match the behaviour I suggested [10:52] TJ-, "NumLock on should select the first, NumLock off the second " . This behaviour is what I need [10:54] in normal typing NumLock works correctly, when assigning to keyboard shortcuts same keysymbol is selected regardless of NumLock's state [10:54] afx_: right, but it sounds like the shortcut is mapped to the underlying key-code, doesn't it? because the key has 1 key-code but the symbol is changed based on another key's state [10:54] afx_: I gave up on Gnome years ago [10:55] TJ-, exactly . Would love to change this behaviour [10:56] perhaps with 3rd party software like xmodmap or xbindkeys? [10:58] afx_: you want your keyboard to send different keycodes based on whether the numlock light is illuminated? [10:58] I mean I guess it's possible to reprogram one to do that, but literally nothing expects that behaviour [10:58] Triffid_Hunter, this is my problem https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2407182 [11:00] Triffid_Hunter: no, it is expected to emit key symbols, but it apparently isn't doing that [11:00] and this is my settings in Gnome https://ibb.co/cbJkgrz [11:01] Insert (keypad) is somehow indicating that the shortcut will be trigged ONLY from keypad where Insert is typed when NumLock is OFF [11:02] afx_: this might give you a clue to follow up https://askubuntu.com/questions/317448/keyboard-shortcuts-are-not-working-with-numlock-key-on [11:02] afx_: e.g. "Mod2" key [11:02] afx_: maybe there's another shortcut that is interfering? [11:03] let me check [11:05] Unfortunately no ! The only assignment to Insert is the one I made for move to workspace [11:08] afx_: this sounds interesting: "With this option selected, using Shift with keys on the numerical pad when NumLock is off extends the current selection." [11:09] afx_: this is apparently in the Keyboard preferences as "Shift with numpad keys works as in MS Windows." [11:09] afx_: not clear how old that is though. Here's the page in case it helps: https://people.gnome.org/~bmsmith/build/prefs-keyboard.html [11:12] TJ-, ok with Shift and NumLock off , I get 0 when typing 0/Ins . It's like I have NumLock ON . this is confusing :) [11:12] sry will be back asap === TheHonorableKitt is now known as ThKitten === geodb27_ is now known as geodb27 === HappyHotDog is now known as HappyHoHoHotDog [11:51] hello everyone. i'm thinking of buying an intel core2 laptop for the purpose of learning linux with the ubuntu distro. would a core2 be good enough as in decent/quick for even the display environment [11:57] Hi, I have lubuntu 18.04. recently I had fresh install (i needed to use windows for a while then I return back). I'm using openconnect for vpn. after using it for several hours, everything (especially things that interact with terminal) get freeze. when I try to restart system, it show trying to stop "avahi" but it can't. I've searched but hadn't find anything useful. [11:59] alish what is your error log say, if you have one. i dont know ubuntu but i know centos. well alittle but perhaps i can help [12:00] I'm going to find it. [12:10] Finalight, this is log before system freeze=> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xC4GhXGT9P/ [12:15] alish; hmm [12:15] alish; did you read https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/271-i-can-ping-through-the-tunnel-but-any-real-work-causes-it-to-lock-up-is-this-an-mtu-problem [12:16] alish; wait, openconnect [12:16] i'm using openconnect from ubuntuu repos [12:16] There is a channel #openconnect apparently. [12:17] Maybe they can provide help as I cannot :( [12:17] alish; i think people will be here if you can wait [12:18] Finalight, thanks, I'm here (til next freeze :D ) [12:18] I paste my question there [12:23] Hi folks [12:24] Hi , can you advice ? I'm just upgraded from xenial -> bionic [12:24] and trying to install teamaviewer [12:24] But got into trouble [12:25] https://pastebin.com/5c5zSXAb [12:26] XATRIX, just use gdebi [12:26] alish: the same [12:27] XATRIX: teamviewer is not an official package of ubuntu, it adds external ppa's to your system that 'could' get you in trouble [12:28] lotuspsychje: sure, but it doesn't want to install neither from ppa, nor from the directly downloaded .deb [12:29] i think i have some problems with that libqt5gui5 lib [12:29] xatrix, have you checked that .deb file added any source to sourcelist? [12:30] no, it didn't [12:32] xatrix, I was thinking about installing qt separately. although I'm not sure. [12:32] it seems they built the app using qt5 [12:33] ok, but can i do it via apt ? [12:35] https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=qt5&searchon=names&suite=all [12:35] hello, i have a .sh script who works, but when i try to execute from pam.d folder/sshd,some if functions doesn't work anymore : session optional pam_exec.so seteuid /etc/ssh/login-notify.sh , is this executed with a different interpretor or something? [12:35] xatrix, or finding your version from qt => https://wiki.qt.io/Install_Qt_5_on_Ubuntu [12:40] can anyone help? [12:41] !patience | Rembo [12:41] Rembo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [12:41] XATRIX: unmet dependencies mostly result out of adding external ppa's to your system [12:43] XATRIX: maybe take a look in your sources.list? [12:43] guiverc, I think something like this would work https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/35649/second-keyboard-to-run-commands [12:43] lotuspsychje: ok, lets see [12:43] TJ-, check this ---^ too [12:45] thanks afx_ :) === alephnull_ is now known as alephnull === akemacer__ is now known as akemacer [13:35] hi [13:35] im trying to unzip a file https://pastebin.com/A0QC03P6 [13:35] what does it mean? [13:37] dingir_: what it says; there is a file where directory is expected [13:37] but whats the matter [13:37] on windows it works just as normal [13:37] do i need to add extra options? i dont understand whats going on [13:38] there is no file where directory is expected [13:38] unzip *is expected to create it [13:40] dingir_: it is possible the .zip file has been extended and contains both a file and directory of the same name; use "unzip -l ..." to check that [13:41] hrmm [13:41] dingir_: which ubuntu release are you using? [13:41] why does it work on windows [13:41] UnZip 6.00 of 20 April 2009 [13:45] dingir_: Which version of ubuntu are you running? Also, the fact that "it" works on Windows is completely unrelated. [13:45] no im on gentoo [13:46] !gentoo | dingir_ [13:46] dingir_: Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Arch Linux, Manjaro, Slackware (using other packaging systems) [13:47] !mint | dingir_ [13:47] dingir_: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) [13:47] i see [13:47] dingir_: good luck. Feel free to try #gentoo [13:47] looks like it's an incorrectly formatted ZIP file; directory paths SHOULD have a trailing / ... if not it is likely a zero-length file is created instead [13:47] may the force be with me [13:48] yea the file is bad im pretty sure about it [13:48] what a bunch of morons its from tplink website itself [13:48] never happened to not be able to unzip a file, wow! [13:50] in 18.04 my thunderbird icon does not show number of new messages, what am i missing? [13:55] sruli: the snap or the apt thunderbird? [13:56] lotuspsychje: apt thunderbird [13:56] sruli: do you mean email count inside thunderbird, or actually on the dock icon? [13:57] lotuspsychje: in the icon dock [13:57] sruli: in unity or gnome? [13:58] lotuspsychje: gnome, i have it installed on 3 machines works in 2 but not on my main one, google wasnt helpful [14:00] sruli: your 2 other computers are also gnome? [14:00] lotuspsychje: yes same apt thunderbird [14:02] sruli: is this what happens to you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1726116 [14:02] Launchpad bug 1726116 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Thunderbird "unread email" counter doesn't always update when unread emails are opened" [Medium,Confirmed] [14:02] lotuspsychje: no, it just does not display a counter at all [14:02] hmm [14:04] sruli: could you launch thunderbird from terminal please, see if we can catch errors? [14:04] lotuspsychje: just tested it, it only shows the counter for the first new email time after launching it, after that no more counter [14:05] sruli: so it does work, for the first [14:08] lotuspsychje: yes only for the first, but i only realised it because i tried to restart it before for this normally it would run for weeks without restart [14:08] sruli: try sending an email to yourself with thunderbird closed, then launch [14:08] installed 8.04 and noticed that when battery power ends, it shuts down (instead of going to sleep or hibernate). where to check these settings please? [14:09] diskin: i hope you mean 18.04? [14:09] lotuspsychje, yes, sorry! [14:10] I had 8.04 too, but it was years ago.. [14:12] lotuspsychje: now it works hasnt been for the past week, will monitor it and see what happens [14:12] !yay | sruli [14:12] sruli: Glad you made it! :-) [14:13] lotuspsychje: i didnt do nada, some magic wand at work here, i dont like magic [14:13] sruli: alot of magic happens in #ubuntu [14:13] ;-) [14:13] diskin: you can check the gnome systemsettings energy [14:14] !info laptop-mode-tools | diskin ==>also handy [14:14] diskin ==>also handy: laptop-mode-tools (source: laptop-mode-tools): Tools for Power Savings based on battery/AC status. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.71-2ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 83 kB, installed size 378 kB [14:15] lotuspsychje, settings -> power say: automatic suspend, when on battery, delay: 20 min [14:16] thanks, installed laptop-mode-tools, will research and monitor [14:17] diskin: personally i disable hibernate, when computer not in use i shutdown [14:19] lotuspsychje, I'm normally on AC power, but sometimes I forgot to plug it in when come home. Decided to "train" my battery, but got pulled to something else and when returned, it was shut down [14:24] Hi, I want to use midi-over-bluetooth on linux [14:25] Everywhere they say it should work out of the box with the bluez stack. Apparently, the bluez stack is what ubuntu uses (can you confirm?). But I get no midi after pairing and connecting the controller. [14:25] I tried to run "debian/rules binary" in the source directory after apt source bluez [14:25] And it seems like "--enable-midi" is not ON in the configuration. [14:25] Questions: 1) is debian/rules binary the right way to rebuild the package and 2) is editing the rules file the right way to change the way configure is invoked? [14:27] and 3) how do I prevent future upgrades to override my choice? And 4) how can I create a ppa with my modified version and keep it up-to-date automatically?? And I stop for now and await your answer :) [14:28] diskin: perhaps set auto hibernate on battery 5min [14:29] lotuspsychje, I don't have this option, only suspend, and it did not work. but I will restart (after installing laptop-mode-tools) and check again [14:29] diskin: in power options you should have an automatic hibernate option [14:30] lotuspsychje, perhaps it depends on bios settings, or such. I don't have it. [14:30] diskin: https://i1.wp.com/websiteforstudents.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/ubuntu_power_suspend.png?resize=640%2C460&ssl=1 [14:31] vincenzoml: 1) no, src debs are built with special tools like dpkg-buildpackage; 2) I think so, yes; 3) you can't, you have to manage it manually; 4) https://askubuntu.com/questions/71510/how-do-i-create-a-ppa [14:34] vincenzoml: small correction to 3), I guess you can raise epoch and the upstream updates won't be considered as "newer". but you'll have to keep an eye on such updates and rebuild your own package accordingly [14:34] vincenzoml: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#version [14:38] blackflow, thanks; using "manual" mode (debian/rules binary) produced "dh_install: Cannot find (any matches for) "usr/lib/*/libbluetooth.so.3"" at some point and it stopped, which comes as a surprise anyway [14:38] I'll retry with dpkg-buildpackage [14:39] vincenzoml: btw, you'll need all the building dependencies installed. Take a look at this: https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingTutorial [14:41] blackflow, I used to rebuild packages like ten years ago, so I did the basics, installed build-deps, figured out that with "--enable-midi" I also need libasound2-dev, and started the build, but it is surprising that it exits with error after such steps [14:42] Now I'm following a guide suggesting to use "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b" ... in the meantime perhaps I could locate the official ubuntu guide [14:42] * tarzeau switched to using debuild [14:43] Perhaps I could follow this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb but it uses debuild, as @tarzeau suggests [14:44] vincenzoml: sure. it's been a while since I did it too so perhaps that's a better tool [14:44] anyway, I just rebuilt the packages and reinstalled them. Do you know wheter it is sufficient to "service restart bluetooth"? [14:46] YESSS... [14:47] my sensel morph is now connected via bluetooth, good bless linux. So blackflow I suppose I only have to build the ppa... and submit a bug for enabling that option perhaps [14:48] won't hurt. [14:48] i need a micr scanner, cannot find any which support linux, anyone know any? [14:49] Now to the more serious support things. Even since when I didn't replace bluez with my own, I have this device that stays connected for a while, and then starts disconnecting and reconnecting. On the machine (vaio pro 13) bluetooth was never reliable, but how can I debug the specific issue? [14:52] ever since when you didn't.... can you rephrase that pls? you just segfaulted my brain. [14:52] (and BT on linux is a mess) [14:53] blackflow, I meant: even with the original package [14:54] "Even", not "ever", but sorry for messing up with english :) [14:54] Yes bluetooth in linux is sometimes a mess [14:57] Hey guys, working on a client server running Ubuntu 18.04, trying to get wifi up and running but no luck so far. [14:57] 18.04 now uses Netplan it seems. [14:58] It is a backup server so not production. === Class7_ is now known as Class7 [15:17] I need a browser for a massively old machine. Installed current lubuntu but the web browser constantly crashes. Connection is otherwise fine, except for the browser. a little digging shows that most modern browsers require SSE2 (which I do not have) [15:18] Ive tried a few but most everything crashes out of the box. Firefox, chromium, maxthon, qupzilla, and palemoon. Best was qupzilla, but only worked on 16.04 :( [15:18] MWM, what's your cpu ? [15:19] Figured out my issue, nvm. [15:19] athlon xp2600+ = cpu [15:19] MWM: seems it was not build for a real x86 [15:19] Debian had that bug, too but then fixed it [15:20] I may cry if I have to install debian. Ive already cycled through several different OS's before settling on lubuntu (which works in every other respect) [15:20] 10.600 EUR for a unigine designer llibrary. OMG [15:21] MWM, can you paste /proc/cpuinfo ? i think that cpu supports sse [15:21] And.. I bought it ;) [15:22] One of these day's we have tot to do a FOSS ws. DUNS [15:22] I cant paste it. Im using another machine for this chat. I can look though. SSE*2* though isnt listed in the specs for the cpu. Ill check on the actual machine though.... [15:23] MWM, never mind [15:23] SSE is listed under "flags" SSE2 is not though [15:24] MWM, yeah [15:24] SSE2 is supported on virtially all intel CPU's for the øast decade [15:25]