[08:18] <pmjdebruijn> it would seem enabling sync_to_vblank in xfwm is poorly handled by the amdgpu driver
[08:18] <pmjdebruijn> after a while my screen does blank, and doesn't come back, not even for a console
[08:18] <pmjdebruijn> i'll try in-driver tearfree tonight
[08:28] <pmjdebruijn> btw, i'm also see two networkmanager icons sometimes
[08:29] <pmjdebruijn> i'm reading this is a long standig issue? can anybody confirm this?
[08:30] <Iolo> If you do a "xfce4-panel -r" on the command line, does the extra icon go away?
[08:31] <pmjdebruijn> I don't have it now, but i'll try when I have it again
[08:32] <pmjdebruijn> Iolo: but if it does?
[08:36] <syb0rg> I can confirm that is a longstanding issue, as I have experienced it on occasion for some time, pmjdebruijn
[08:37] <Iolo> pmjdebruijn, simply curious. I'm having a similar issue with the redshift-gtk icon.
[08:37] <pmjdebruijn> ah ok
[08:37] <pmjdebruijn> i'll try when I get it
[09:16] <TheWild> hello
[09:18] <TheWild> how I can change the format the date is displayed profile-wide? No, not just the clock - I want to change whole locale. And no, not change the country - I want to change the date format to '%Y-%m-%d'.
[09:19] <diogenes_> TheWild, use orage
[09:20] <diogenes_> then in orage settings in Lin1 one you put: %Y:%m:%d
[09:20] <diogenes_> and gtehre you have it
[09:20] <diogenes_> Line 1*
[09:21] <knome> TheWild, export LC_TIME="locale", where locale is a locale with that date format?
[15:08] <xubuntu15w> Are all the versions 32-bit compatible
[15:09] <xubuntu15w> I'm looking for something to run off of a little bit older laptop it's just not a very powerful one. Dual core atom but it don't support 64-bit as I have tried many times.
[15:10] <xubuntu15w> Just need to know if they will work on 32-bit systems
[15:12] <xubuntu15w> Ok thanks I guess. I'm not mad at you guys I'm just upset that it's not very clear on what your operating system is compatible with thank you
[15:43] <Iolo> Does @daily in my crontab really only run at midnight? I was hoping it actually meant daily, i.e. once every day regardless of what time it is. Do I have to go back to a systemd timer?
[15:44] <pmjdebruijn> Iolo: cat /etc/crontab
[15:44] <pmjdebruijn> Iolo: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/Timers that might suit you better
[15:50] <Iolo> pmjdebruijn, does /etc/crontab function differently from a user-specific crontab?
[15:50] <pmjdebruijn> I don't understand
[15:50] <pmjdebruijn> crontab contains the entry which kicks off /etc/cron.daily
[15:50] <pmjdebruijn> there you will see at exactly what time it's kicked off
[15:51] <pmjdebruijn> but essentially cron isn't really geared for workstations
[15:51] <pmjdebruijn> there was anacron at some point
[15:51] <pmjdebruijn> and it still is there
[15:51] <Iolo> I don't understand either. I'm not using /etc/cron.daily, I'm using the @daily time specifier in my own crontab that I generated with crontab -e
[15:51] <pmjdebruijn> oh
[15:51] <pmjdebruijn> no clue about that
[15:52] <pmjdebruijn> I generally avoid crontab -e
[15:52] <Iolo> Either way though, it does sound like it only runs at a specific time, instead of actually _daily_ like systemd timers can do
[15:52] <pmjdebruijn> Iolo: this is why anacron exists
[15:52] <Iolo> So I guess it's back to systemd timers for me
[15:58] <Andrio> Midnight is still every day as long as the computer is on at that time...