[00:12] <rantic> Anyone here using Ubuntu on a Dell XPS 13 by chance? I'm having a terrible time with display scaling in Gnome on Ubuntu 18.04
[00:12] <rantic> 100% is too small and 200% is massive, I don't seem to have any options like 150% etc ... and just modifying the font scaling only fixes half the problem
[00:30] <OerHeks> rantic, gnome tweak gives more options, scaling
[00:31] <rantic> OerHeks, it only includes font scaling - which unfortunately doesn't help with the UI elements etc
[00:31] <OerHeks> ah, correct https://i.stack.imgur.com/4Xh9c.png
[00:34] <OerHeks> whole article, with xrandr solutions, not sure this is an answer https://askubuntu.com/questions/1029436/enable-fractional-scaling-for-ubuntu-18-04
[00:49] <virmaha> hello. I've a file with 755 permission and owned by root. I can open/ls it with my normal user account. However, another file with 644 and owned by root cannot be opened/ls unless I use sudo
[00:49] <virmaha> why is that?
[01:03] <meskes> Hey, i'm 'new'. With Linux, that is.
[01:03] <meskes> Anyone know anything about aircrack related things?
[01:05] <meskes> All 1168 of you are boring.
[01:08] <ducasse> meskes: explain what you're trying to achieve, and ask your actual question
[01:09] <meskes> Well, I was wondering about general knowledge,
[01:09] <meskes> You see,
[01:09] <rfm> virmaha, check the permissions on the containing directories
[01:10] <meskes> ducasse: I'm looking for help with something to do with wifite, the tool.
[01:10] <meskes> ducasse: Nevermind, i have that found out
[01:17] <meskes> list
[01:20] <fishcooker> i tried to change priority and nicelevel using start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --chuid "$FAIL2BAN_USER" --nicelevel 13 --iosched 'idle' --exec $DAEMON but it won't change the prio and nice level https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MzgznDnn6C/
[01:21] <meskes> ducasse: Hey, this is the real meskes. I've got a friend's son here, trying to learn the ropes. I'm going help him along, and get him up to speed about how to formulate questions and the like and let him know why it's not a good idea to ask a very general question such as he's asked. :)
[01:23] <meskes> ducasse: Sorry about that. Really, I am.
[01:26] <ducasse> meskes: np
[01:26] <meskes> Thanks, brother. Appreciate it.
[01:30] <virmaha> rfm: thanks,..that was it
[01:38] <rfm> fishcooker, unless you're on a really old ubuntu, systemd is used not sysv init, so editing the start-stop-daemon line in the init.d script will have no effect
[01:41] <rfm> fishcooker, you probably want to use the Nice= setting in a systemd drop-in (read the systemd.unit man page)
[01:43] <Some_Person> I'm about to image a drive using dd... what parameters should I pass in to make it go relatively fast?
[01:43] <Some_Person> The drive in question is an NVMe SSD
[02:22] <rfm> Some_Person, just set the block size up to a megabyte or so
[03:20] <kuz3> not trolling
[03:53] <amazoniantoad> How do I tell if I'm using unity or gnome?
[03:54] <nadeko> Should tell you in settings under info
[03:55] <amazoniantoad> tbanks
[04:17] <mIk3_08> amazonian: https://askubuntu.com/questions/695947/do-i-have-gnome-or-unity
[05:44] <MrSassyPants> someone tell me where xorg.conf is actually located
[05:45] <MrSassyPants> It used to be /etc/X11/ but that's probably no longer the case, where it actually seems to be is /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d which is not even listed in the man page as a valid place
[05:45] <SwedeMike> MrSassyPants: it's typically not needed nowadays.
[05:46] <ducasse> MrSassyPants: there isn't one by default anymore, if there is it's in /etc/X11/
[05:46] <SwedeMike> MrSassyPants: so it's not strange if you don't have it
[05:46] <MrSassyPants> Well, obviously it is somehow being used and composed, if nothing else, by nvidia-drivers
[05:47] <MrSassyPants> Because the way I understand configless xorg to work and the way it seems to work with installed nvidia drivers differs significantly
[05:48] <MrSassyPants> so I need to take control back from ... such things and I can't very well do that without actually being in control of the conf
[05:50] <MrSassyPants> according to the xorg logs it uses *both* of those .d folders as sources for the config
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> MrSassyPants: how about you tell us what you reaal are trying to do?
[05:50] <SwedeMike> MrSassyPants: nothing stops you from creating an xorg.conf if you need to. But it's not strange that you do not have one currently.
[05:51] <MrSassyPants> gpu pass through to kvm, detaching a driver from X and reattaching it without having to restart X
[05:54] <Randolf> How are things coming along for getting OpenSSL updated to v1.1.1?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !latest | Randolf
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Randolf: we reccomend, if you need a higher package, try out a higher ubuntu version so packages dont get mixed up
[05:57] <Randolf> I'm already using Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, and I keep it upgraded with apt.
[05:57] <Randolf> OpenSSL 1.1.1 improves security as it brings in support for TLSv3.
[05:58] <JustAPerson> Been running into intermittent issues with my 18.04 installation booting. Here is a picture of the boot messages https://i.imgur.com/qNYaKwa.jpg  right now I can't even access the recovery prompt
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> JustAPerson: thats the last line you see?
[05:59] <JustAPerson> lotuspsychje: it hangs at that
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !info openssl cosmic | Randolf
[06:00] <Randolf> Sorry, I meant TLS v1.3.
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> Randolf: if security flaws are found, you will receive system updates on bionic too
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> Randolf: but we reccomend to keep the packages for the specific ubuntu version
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> JustAPerson: can you provide us a bit details of your install? recent iso? system specs? did ubuntu work before on your machine?
[06:05] <Randolf> lotuspsychje:  It's been recommended to stay away from PPAs, and I've found that I can do that for every installation except for one which needs PHP 5.
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> Randolf: try apt-cache search to install packages you need on your system
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> Randolf: what doesnt work on your current php version from bionic?
[06:10] <Randolf> Huh?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> Randolf: you say you need php 5?
[06:11] <Randolf> I don't.  One client does, and so I had to use a PPA to get that working.
[06:11] <Randolf> The other clients who need PHP are all on PHP 7.2 now.
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> Randolf: ok and why did the client need php5?
[06:12] <vigilant> hi buddies
[06:12] <vigilant> stat=Deferred: Connection timed out with hotmail-com.olc.protection.outlook.com.
[06:12] <vigilant> Dec  5 06:08:16 atlantis sm-mta[17415]: wB560GcZ017412:
[06:12] <vigilant> Why could this be happening?
[06:12] <vigilant> I am using sendmail to send an email
[06:12] <vigilant> and it is timing out
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> vigilant: more a question for ##networking ?
[06:12] <vigilant> okay
[06:32] <ZaZaQR> hello
[06:41] <Randolf> lotuspsychje: The client had old code, and said they didn't have the resources to upgrade it.
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> Randolf: ubuntu is free to upgrade?
[06:42] <Randolf> lotuspsychje: I've been able to get other clients to upgrade to new versions of software, but this one can't do it.
[06:42] <Randolf> So, moving from PHP5 to PHP7 results in a lot of stuff that doesn't work for many projects that are designed to work with PHP5.
[06:42] <Randolf> Fortunately, there is a PPA that makes it possible to run PHP5.
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> ok allright
[06:43] <Randolf> I'm not going to try to justify it, and I'm not going to tell my client that they have no choice when there's a choice.
[06:43] <Randolf> They know my recommendation, but at the end of the day it is what it is.
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> Randolf: just keep in mind production + not upgrade/updating is a dangerous hobby
[06:44] <hwweiler> havent used linux in a few months, probably made my life harder than it needed to be... how do i get softlinks to list with ls ?
[06:44] <hwweiler> only if i use fullpath with ls does the softlink show
[06:46] <hwweiler> not sure what you call the first column of the output of ls -la, but iirc there should be a indication of links there and also on the last colum with file -> file
[06:47] <Randolf> lotuspsychje: I agree.  This isn't a hobby for me.  I've been running internet servers professionally since the early-to-mid 1990s.
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> great Randolf
[06:48] <Randolf> lotuspsychje: Did it with Novell NetWare for a while, but mostly used NetBSD until recently, so Ubuntu is still a bit new to me, but I have the security aspects sorted at least, and I find most of it is pretty much the same as Unix anyway.
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> feel free to idle in #ubuntu-discuss Randolf
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> hwweiler: see also ##linux or #bash for commands in the terminal
[06:53] <hwweiler> lotuspsychje: i figured it's a ubuntu thing to hide it per some config file
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> hwweiler: if you feel its ubuntu related, no problem
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> hwweiler: just trying to widen your options :p
[06:54] <hwweiler> lotuspsychje: im following your tip, as it seems here im in the wrong tz and everyone is sleeping
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> hwweiler: alot of europe will wake in the next hour here, idle a bit or re-ask in a while it will get solved for sure
[06:56] <hwweiler> maybe you know this
[06:56] <hwweiler> lotuspsychje: i've created a softlink in both directions is that a problem? i forogt in which order they are meant to be done
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> hwweiler: is this what you need? https://ubuntuhak.blogspot.com/2013/04/symbolic-links-in-ubuntu.html
[06:59] <hwweiler> lotuspsychje: ? no.. i though we were on the same page
[07:08] <Uzzi> where can I find details about http://dell.archive.canonical.com/updates/dists/ (for example specific repo for Dell Precision 5520)?
[07:12] <Steven_M> Hi all, ever since I installed the proprietary Nvidia graphics driver, my system hangs on boot. I've tried blacklisting these kernel modules (https://pastebin.com/raw/vSdFuX3T), as one forum suggested, but it didn't help. I'm using Ubuntu 18.10. any ideas?
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> Steven_M: wich chipset and driver version please?
[07:29] <CoolerZ> how do you install the openvpn vlient on ubuntu 18.04 lts?
[07:30] <CoolerZ> client*
[07:35] <Steven_M> lotuspsychje: nvidia gforce GT 525M, the tested version of the driver from the additional drivers panel. I can't remember the version number sorry.
[07:51] <Steven_M> lotuspsychje: any ideas
[07:52] <zamba> i'm trying to get rid of a linux-image-extra package.. it seems autoremove has made an attempt of removing it earlier as well..
[07:52] <zamba> https://pastebin.com/6b3XZxeh
[07:52] <zamba> what do i do?
[07:56] <Ben64> zamba: sudo dpkg --force-all -P <package>
[07:57] <zamba> sh: echo: I/O error
[07:57] <zamba> what's this?
[08:03] <zamba> Ben64: no, that didn't help
[08:16] <ducasse> zamba: you can try reinstalling it with apt before purging it, 'apt install --reinstall ...'
[08:16] <PCoves> Hi.
[08:16] <zamba> i believe i found the problem, /run was full
[08:16] <PCoves> A coworker of mine needs to start bitlbee on boot.
[08:16] <PCoves> But systemctl enable bitlbee wont work.
[08:16] <zamba> and that created all kinds of havoc
[08:16] <PCoves> Is there any known trick?
[08:52] <CoolerZ> hey
[08:52] <CoolerZ> anyone here use openvpn?
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> CoolerZ: best to ask your question to the channel
[08:53] <CoolerZ> how do i get openvpn to set / restore the dns settings automatically each time i connect / disconnect?
[08:53] <vlt> CoolerZ: `apt install openvpn`
[08:53] <CoolerZ> do i need this? https://roy.marples.name/projects/openresolv
[08:54] <CoolerZ> currently i can connect to my openvpn server and connect to different ip addresses, ping them, etc
[08:54] <CoolerZ> however dns isn't setup properly, its still using the old dns settings that were there before connecting to openvpn
[08:54] <CoolerZ> so no domain names get resolved
[08:55] <PCoves> Hey, how would you start bitlbee on boot when "systemctl enable bitlbee" does not work?
[08:55] <CoolerZ> i found articles like these https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OpenVPN#DNS
[08:55] <CoolerZ> saying i need to set some config, but i am confuse
[08:55] <CoolerZ> d
[08:59] <tchakatak> o/
[09:00] <CoolerZ> help?
[09:00] <CoolerZ> i am on ubuntu 18.04 btw
[09:00] <tchakatak> CoolerZ: what is your problem ?
[09:04] <CoolerZ> tchakatak, openvpn isn't setting the dns properly
[09:06] <tchakatak> CoolerZ: generally this kind of problem come from your openvpn file
[09:06] <tchakatak> did you set on the ovpn file the dns ?
[09:07] <CoolerZ> tchakatak, set on? what?
[09:07] <CoolerZ> i have a .ovpn file
[09:07] <tchakatak> CoolerZ: First, are you the provider of the VPN
[09:08] <CoolerZ> yes
[09:08] <tchakatak> ok
[09:08] <CoolerZ> in a sense
[09:08] <tchakatak> so
[09:08] <Finalight> AHA! BUSTED! Lol kiding
[09:08] <CoolerZ> i am running openvpn on a amazon ec2 instance
[09:08] <tchakatak> in the ovpn file (where you have the config) you can include something like this
[09:08] <tchakatak> up /etc/openvpn/update-resolv-conf
[09:08] <tchakatak> look on github for the update-resolv-conf
[09:09] <CoolerZ> tchakatak, about that, that script doesn't exist on my system
[09:09] <CoolerZ> i checked
[09:09] <tchakatak> yes
[09:09] <tchakatak> this script is on github
[09:09] <CoolerZ> only verify-cn is there in that folder
[09:10] <CoolerZ> do i need to install openresolv? https://github.com/masterkorp/openvpn-update-resolv-conf
[09:10] <tchakatak> https://github.com/masterkorp/openvpn-update-resolv-conf
[09:10] <tchakatak> yes
[09:10] <tchakatak> do you have git on your system ?
[09:12] <CoolerZ> yeah
[09:12] <CoolerZ> i installed it
[09:12] <CoolerZ> and now the script is there
[09:13] <tchakatak> do you use systemd-resolv or openresolv ?
[09:13] <CoolerZ> do i just put the "up /etc/openvpn/update-resolv-conf" line anywhere inside the .ovpn file?
[09:13] <tchakatak> if you use openresolv yes :)
[09:13] <tchakatak> and dont forget to down it
[09:13] <CoolerZ> tchakatak, well i installed openresolv
[09:14] <tchakatak> if not when your connexion will be terminated the dns will not update
[09:14] <CoolerZ> i am guessing systemd-resolv is the default
[09:14] <CoolerZ> tchakatak, how do i check what i am using?
[09:14] <tchakatak> on the serverside you have to push the dhns with push dhcp-options
[09:14] <CoolerZ> tchakatak, yeah the server is already pushing the settings
[09:15] <tchakatak> if you installed it it should work oob
[09:15] <tchakatak> remember to put a +x flag on the script also
[09:16] <CoolerZ> yeah it has that
[09:16] <tchakatak> then try
[09:17] <CoolerZ> so where do i put the up and down line in the .ovpn file?
[09:17] <tchakatak> before the Certs
[09:17] <tchakatak> i have this in mine :
[09:17] <tchakatak> script-security 2
[09:17] <CoolerZ> after verb 3?
[09:18] <tchakatak> up /etc/openvpn/update-resolv-conf
[09:18] <tchakatak> depend of your file.
[09:18] <tchakatak> down /etc/openvpn/update-resolv-conf
[09:19] <CoolerZ> WARNING: Failed running command (--up/--down): external program fork failed
[09:19] <Finalight> Would you all recommend 4GB or 8GB. I think 16 would be overkill, in terms of memory
[09:19] <CoolerZ> WARNING: External program may not be called unless '--script-security 2' or higher is enabled. See --help text or man page for detailed info.
[09:19] <tchakatak> as i said put script-security 2
[09:19] <tchakatak> Finalight: depend of your usage
[09:20] <CoolerZ> tchakatak, also i have this line  dev tun  as the 2nd line in my .ovpn file
[09:20] <CoolerZ> shouldn't it be tap? client has tap and server has tun ?
[09:21] <tchakatak> CoolerZ: i sended you a part of my config in pm, feel free to copy :)
[09:21] <Finalight> tchakatak; it won't be that crazy. just maybe some ftp/web, definitely learning. but i don't want the desktop environment to be sluggish
[09:22] <CoolerZ> tchakatak, yours doesn't have the tun tap line
[09:22] <ducasse> Finalight: which desktop?
[09:22] <tchakatak> Finalight: i use 8g of ram, 16 would be really nice when i use some vm... if not right now i use around 300mb :) but everything in cli with i3 etc...
[09:22] <tchakatak> depend of your config
[09:22] <Finalight> ducasse; whatever one it comes with. but i really dislike the default.
[09:23] <ducasse> Finalight: if you're going to run a desktop environment and a browser i'd get 8gb
[09:24] <Finalight> ducasse thank you, and you asl well tchakatak
[09:24] <Finalight> as*
[09:24] <tchakatak> CoolerZ: That depend of your serverside.
[09:38] <PCoves> Hey, how would you start bitlbee on boot when "systemctl enable bitlbee" does not work?
[09:41] <sud0x3> PCoves: Did you check why the service failed? or the status of the service?
[09:43] <PCoves> Nop, as it's for a remote coworker.
[09:43] <tchakatak> PCoves: first look at journalctl -xe
[09:43] <tchakatak> also journalctl status bitlebee
[09:43] <PCoves> Thanks
[09:43] <tchakatak> if the process is not handled by systemd then you have to create your own module for it
[09:46] <sud0x3> There should be a systemd unit with the package from the ubuntu repo.
[09:47] <tchakatak> sometime you have no systemd unit
[09:49] <sud0x3> If you didnt install it from the official repo then you might not have it, otherwise you will. Dont know what other reson there would be for it not to be there if you used official packages.
[09:49] <PCoves> It's from official repo.
[09:49] <PCoves> She assured me.
[09:51] <tchakatak> Even if its from the official repo sometime you dont have the systemd unit for certain modules
[09:51] <sud0x3> tchakatak: certain modules as in? packages == modules?
[09:51] <tchakatak> certain packages sorry
[09:52] <sud0x3> Either way bitlebee has provided systemd unit files, https://github.com/bitlbee/bitlbee/tree/master/init
[09:52] <sud0x3> unless ubuntu team removed them
[09:53] <sud0x3> PCoves: Your logs should point you in the right direction then, hard to help with little information.
[09:54] <PCoves> Yep, those infos are hard to get from my coworker as well :-\
[09:55] <tchakatak> PCoves: journalctl -xe
[09:55] <tchakatak> Why not ssh on her computer ?
[09:55] <tchakatak> or vnc ?
[09:56] <sud0x3> I suggest you dont use things like bitlebee if you find it hard to get the log without help. Have you tried just running bitlbee normally to see the error intead of using the service.
[09:59] <PCoves> sud0x3: bitlbee works perfectly well on my (arch) box.
[10:00] <PCoves> It's not for me.
[10:01] <afx_> Hello ! Following this tutorial https://lampjs.wordpress.com/2015/06/26/remapchange-your-secondaryusb-keyboard-keys/ , are changes done with xkbcomp persistent?
[10:05] <tchakatak> afx_: it should be.
[10:06] <afx_> tchakatak, is there a way I can revert to default layout ?
[10:06] <afx_> Should I keep a backup maybe?
[10:07] <tchakatak> afx_: you can loadkeys for your current session
[10:09] <afx_> tchakatak, can you guide me through please?
[10:09] <sud0x3> PCoves: If you cant instruct them to give you a log, they arent going to cope very well with bitlebee if it breaks in any way if they cant get it to start.
[10:09] <sud0x3> Regardless nobody here can help with "it wont wont", need to provide some more information.
[10:09] <ducasse> afx_: you would need to load the new layout you created each time x is restarted
[10:10] <afx_> ducasse, no problem for now as this is only atest
[10:10] <tchakatak> afx_: if you made modification to a keyboard map, and you want to revert to uk for the current session for debuging purpose, you can just open a terminal and type 'loadkeys uk' or 'loadleys us'
[10:12] <afx_> tchakatak, what I really need atm is to make temp modifications to the keyboard map, ie when I restart I would like to have it back as it was at first place
[10:13] <PCoves> I'll send her here, might be more efficient, you guys are right.
[10:13] <tchakatak> afx_: you could use an .xinitrc file
[10:14] <tchakatak> like creating your owm map, and load it itch reboot trough the .xinitrc file.
[10:14] <afx_> tchakatak, isn't that for persistent / startup configuration ?
[10:15] <tchakatak> oh, you just want to have your modification for the session ?
[10:15] <afx_> tchakatak, I need the opposite. I want to test some modifications only for this session
[10:15] <tchakatak> sorry i understood the inverse
[10:15] <afx_> no problem :)
[10:16] <tchakatak> afx_: take a look around setxkbmap
[10:17] <afx_> tchakatak, let me check
[10:18] <afx_> ah setxkbmap -layout us , should work tchakatak
[10:18] <tchakatak> yep.
[10:18] <afx_> and for multiple layouts setxkbmap -layout us,it for example yes?
[10:19] <tchakatak> i need to check the doc, but i supposed :)
[10:19] <afx_> no problem
[10:19] <afx_> this must be it
[10:20] <tchakatak> https://www.dotkam.com/2007/06/25/custom-keyboard-layout-in-ubuntu-or-just-linux-2/
[10:20] <tchakatak> take a look at this
[10:20] <afx_> another thing if anyone knows . there are times that my system boots without the wifi indicator top right in Gnome panel . I am on Ubuntu 18.04 . Any help for this ?
[10:20] <tchakatak> afx_: networkmanager-applet ?
[10:20] <afx_> tchakatak, ah that is very nice
[10:21] <afx_> this applet has also sound, settings along with networking but that could be it
[10:22] <tchakatak> normally gnome have is own stuff, but you can use network-manager-applet aswell
[10:24] <afx_> tchakatak, https://imgur.com/a/gmCea0Y
[10:24] <azi`> so I am running debootstrap and everything finishes OK, yet the program exit code is 2
[10:24] <azi`> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4CST5qF2Qp/
[10:24] <azi`> what could be the reason for this?
[10:24] <tchakatak> afx_: thats not nm applet, but the gnome stuff
[10:26] <tchakatak> afx_: take a look around gnome-tweaks / extensions / network
[10:26] <tchakatak> azi`: i would say the gpg key wich is not there ?
[10:26] <tchakatak> W: Cannot check Release signature; keyring file not available /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg
[10:27] <arndff> Hello! I have a serious problem. Installed Okular which has a light theme by default. Wanted to make it dark. Installed qt5-style-plugins && qt5ct -- it didn't work out.
[10:27] <tchakatak> it install what you want, but cant verify the signature.
[10:27] <afx_> tchakatak, There are Ubuntu appindicators , Ubuntu dock both disabled
[10:27] <arndff> Then there occurred another problem -- when I run my laptop, I have 2 workspaces (by default). After that, I have 4-5 workspaces outta nowhere. WTF???
[10:27] <azi`> tchakatak: wouldn't that just be a warning?
[10:27] <tchakatak> azi`: should. maybe a bug ?
[10:27] <azi`> tchakatak: in any case, do you know how to fix the keyring problem so I can verify?
[10:28] <tchakatak> azi`: just add the gpg key
[10:28] <tchakatak> afx_: then activate them :)
[10:28] <tchakatak> arndff: empty workspace ?
[10:28] <arndff> Yes, 5 workspaces, mate. I'm going crazy.
[10:29] <arndff> I don't use workspaces..............................................
[10:29] <tchakatak> arndff: you can remove them
[10:29] <arndff> Don't know how?
[10:29] <arndff> And they appear outta nowhere...
[10:29] <tchakatak> arndff: look in gnome tweak tools ( not using gnome myself but if i remember well they are there-
[10:29] <azi`> tchakatak: hm.. I have no idea where to get that specific keyring and how to activate it
[10:29] <afx_> tchakatak, ok let me restart
[10:29] <azi`> tchakatak: in any case would you say that this is a bug in debootstrap or the proper way it works?
[10:30] <tchakatak> $ gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv-keys 0x673A03E4C1DB921F
[10:31] <azi`> tchakatak: thank you. could you tell me where did you got the last hex string from? for educational purposes
[10:31] <tchakatak> azi`: keyring.debian.org :)
[10:32] <azi`> tchakatak: hm.. seems like it causes the same error : W: Cannot check Release signature; keyring file not available /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg
[10:33] <afx_> tchakatak, seems to be working , appreciate for your help !
[10:33] <tchakatak> afx_: No problem :)
[10:34] <tchakatak> https://debian-administration.org/article/82/Working_with_Debian_GPG_Keys
[10:39] <azi`> tchakatak: thanks, hopefully I figure it out
[10:52] <azi`> tchakatak: seems to be failing even without the warning https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WWsRSdyyC3/
[10:52] <azi`> tchakatak: would you consider that to be a bug?
[11:05] <anddam> in packages.ubuntu.com I see both nginx-full and nginx-extras provide /usr/sbin/nginx in bionic, is this clash expected?
[11:10] <Kake_> How can something be temporarily in $PATH? Is it loaded from etc/environment when the session starts and it just adds to that list in memory?
[11:15] <blackflow> anddam: they conflict each other, can't install at the same time
[11:15] <blackflow> Kake_: by exporting a modified PATH to the shell.   export PATH=$PATH:/foo/bar      for example
[11:15] <ducasse> Kake_: you can overwrite the entire variable whenever you want
[11:16] <anddam> blackflow: ah makes sense
[11:16] <anddam> thanks
[11:23] <Orvalvisje> hello
[11:24] <Orvalvisje> ubuntu 16: I would like help to copy a program dvd, (tried with VLC, but did not work), but to complicate matters, sometimes the dvd is recognized, sometimes it is not
[11:25] <hexhaxtron> Anyone knows an application that shows the location of a picture in Google Maps?
[11:26] <Orvalvisje> i don't know if it matters, but i am owner of the dvd, i just want to make a copy onto HD because the dvd is starting to show scratches and all, and it is not possible to buy it anymore, nor finding an online version (i don't know what the vlue is of my word, but here it is)
[11:27] <Orvalvisje> i tried to copy it in windows (the name of the program is blank at the moment), but without success
[11:28] <blackflow> Orvalvisje: https://askubuntu.com/questions/147800/ripping-dvd-to-iso-accurately     assuming there aren't hidden track or some other DRM protection
[11:29] <hateball> Could just use DD to make an ISO
[11:29] <hateball> dd*
[11:34] <TJ-> Orvalvisje: I recall there is a program designed to copy scratched media but forget its name right now. I had to use it a few months ago
[11:36] <Orvalvisje> i am not really that educated in using the terminal, blackflow
[11:36] <Orvalvisje> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image_name.iso    so, the "image_name is the name that i will give it then?
[11:38] <blackflow> Orvalvisje: that's the ISO file you'll be storing the ripped DVD yes.
[11:38] <Kake_> Yeah, okay. So I have 2 python programs in my path. How can I make sure the one I want is found first? I tried to put the correct path first, but didn't seem to help
[11:38] <vlt> Orvalvisje: The name of the written file will be "image_name.iso".
[11:38] <blackflow> not sure if /dev/cdrom is the correct device, or if /dev/dvd is. it's been quite a few years since I've seen a DVD :)
[11:38] <Orvalvisje> ok, i typed it in the terminal, and no text or anything or progress is shown, but i can hear the dvd running
[11:39] <blackflow> yes that's how dd works. I don't think it has a progress bar and I think on linux ctrl-t (SIGINFO) doesn't work
[11:39] <Kake_> Oh wait, it doesn't seem to have loaded the path properly, I'll try to restart
[11:40] <Orvalvisje> ok, thanks blackflow ... i'll wait until the noise stops
[11:41] <blackflow> Orvalvisje: actually I guess I was wrong. dd has status=progress option, at least on bionic's version of dd
[11:43] <vlt> Orvalvisje: You can send SIGUSR1 to the dd process to make it print some stats while copying.
[11:55] <Orvalvisje> ok, i have an iso file now, how can i make it work, without using a dvd? suffice to copy it onto a usb-stick?
[11:55] <Orvalvisje> by the way, when finished, some info appeared in the terminal
[11:56] <hateball> Orvalvisje: define "make it work"
[11:59] <Orvalvisje> well, make it play ... i tried to drag it into playlist of vlc, but it does not work ... it is an interactive DVD, in windows it uses autoplay ... also, when trying to copy the iso file onto usb, it just stopped with "0 seconds left" (the time windows keeps showing, did not close automatically)
[11:59] <blackflow> Orvalvisje: uhm... is that a windows program?
[12:00] <Orvalvisje> it ran in ubuntu sometimes as well, but not stable or sometimes the dvd was recognized, other times not
[12:01] <Orvalvisje> on the dvd it says linux (redhat 7.3 or higher)
[12:03] <blackflow> Orvalvisje: CDs/DVDs usually have an autoplay file (autorun.inf iirc) that by convention tells systems that mount the disk, which program to start. which  means you could be able to start it directly, after you mount the ISO to  a directory. for that, see for example this:  https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-iso-image-under-linux.html
[12:03] <blackflow> it's possible the file manager will mount/open the ISO file when doubleclicked too, I don't know
[12:04] <blackflow> Orvalvisje: so what's actually on the disk?
[12:05] <Orvalvisje> it is a study program that i use to teach dutch. It is a program dvd that also contains clips and sounds
[12:09] <Orvalvisje> ok, i tried it on a small pc (with no dvd player) and mounted (in win 10) the iso file that i copied on a usb ... on running it asks that i have to put the original dvd in the (missing) tray instead of the backup
[12:11] <Orvalvisje> i am going to switch pc ... i'll be back
[12:12] <Orvalvisje> hello
[12:18] <blackflow> Orvalvisje: you can try copy the ISO back to a new DVD, keep the ISO around for backup. You'll need a DVD burner for that. Brasero comes to mind, not sure what other programs there are (and wodim for command line). If, however, that still doesn't work, my guess is the original had some DRM scheme or hidden tracks and you can't copy it just like that.
[12:19] <Orvalvisje> blackflow, i really wanted to avoid using another DVD, as i wanted it to work on my small laptop, where there's no dvd drive .... but i think you might be right, though
[12:29] <TJ-> Orvalvisje: it /may/ be possible to loop-mount it and symlink /dev/cdrom to the loop device to fool the software - depends on how the software is checking for the original media
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:42] <vlt> Hello. What tool can give me a short summary of the hardware (CPU, memory and board type, disks, ...) my Ubuntu is runnning on?
[12:42] <Orvalvisje> ok tj and blackflow.... i copied the iso file on a dvd, however, it says on playing that i need to run the original dvd ... i'm fed up ... dvd 1 vs poor me 0
[12:42] <Orvalvisje> gonna give up
[12:44] <ducasse> vlt: inxi, for example
[12:44] <Orvalvisje> just wanna thank you for your time and effort
[12:44] <vlt> ducasse: Thanks.
[13:10] <tloader11> Hello people! I have a question regarding the compilation of https://github.com/tbsdtv/linux_media/ , I'm using ubuntu 18.04LTS but alway seem to get this error: 'error: code model kernel does not support PIC mode' ,, Does anybody know how to force PIC mode or something like that to complete compilation?
[13:19] <hans_> when will ubuntu update to codeblocks 17.12? (major release from december 2017)
[13:20] <hans_> tloader11, did you custom-compile your kernel?
[13:22] <tloader11> Hi hans, No, i did not :p
[13:23] <uio1> Hello - I'm using Geany with a dark theme, so the text colour is light. When I print to file with GTK native printing, the pdf text is light too, and therefore not easily read. How can I use dark theme and print?
[13:24] <blackflow> tloader11: but that's a whole kernel source that you linked
[13:25] <newtoubuntu> Hey, I tried to install ubuntu (18.04) on my Laptop but I ran into a problem with the video output during startup. Is this the right channel for questions or should I switch to another?
[13:25] <uio> .
[13:25] <uio> I've noticed that Gedit dark theme does not have this issue
[13:26] <uio> \joint #geany
[13:27] <uio> \join #geany
[13:28] <uio> Has Ubuntu IRC changed recently? A few years ago it was very busy!
[13:28] <blackflow> uio: https://xkcd.com/1782/   (sorry, offtopic, but couldn't resist)
[13:29] <tloader11> blackflow: it's a kernel module, right? From what I understood it might be possible that my kernel source is too old
[13:29] <uio> blackflow: haha!
[13:29] <blackflow> tloader11: that repo is the whole kernel source, not just a module
[13:30] <blackflow> I have no idea what you're trying to do otherwise.
[13:30] <uio> blackflow: But it's really changed! Five years ago here were hundreds of questions all the time!
[13:31] <blackflow> yeah it's nice now. not too crowded.
[13:32] <sheen> Hello there, I have issues with minidlna. Program is working fine (I can instantly find my dlna server with vlc on local machine), but when using an external device like Samsung TV or Android phone, it take 10 minutes to find minidlna, and when finally connected, it can crash after 30min of viewing. UFW disabled for purpose, maybe a multicast route issue. I don't have this issue on Windows, dlna connect instantly even on external device. Any help welcome, than
[13:32] <sheen> ks.
[13:34] <qwebirc91042> hello
[13:35] <coz_> heu
[13:35] <tloader11> blackflow: I don't know what I'm doing >,<
[13:35] <coz_> hey
[13:35] <qwebirc91042> my first time here, how do i change my name, or can't i lol?
[13:36] <blackflow> tloader11: that's not something I can fix :)
[13:39] <tloader11> blackflow: thought so, hahah
[13:42] <bitlan> hello, i have ubuntu 18.04 desktop  on my laptop (lenovo E480 with nvme disc SAMSUNG MZVLB256HAHQ-000L7 )  nvme disc spec. seq. READ speed is ~3000MB/s but when i tried hdparm -tT /dev/nvme0n1 i got only  ~1300MB
[13:42] <bitlan> i tried debian 9 live booted from USB - max 1600MB/s
[13:42] <bitlan> any ideas why ?
[13:44] <newtoubuntu> The problem is as follows: The startup sequence always ends in a blackscreen (glowing black not off) this is also the case for the live cd. I managed to install ubuntu using the kernel option nouveau.modeset=0 but this leaves me with a very low resolution. I tried to install the nvidia driver (nvidia-340) but this led to a similar/the same blackscreen problematic that can not be circumvented with nouveau.modeset...
[13:45] <markey165> My machine is using "vesa" as its graphics driver. How do i change it to use "modesetting"? (Running Mate on Ubuntu 18.04)
[13:45] <markey165> I have 3 monitors which were working on Gnome, but when i switched to Mate, only 1 monitor is working, and i think its because my machine is now using the vesa driver.
[13:45] <newtoubuntu> My graphics card is a GT 130M and I am trying to run Ubuntu 18.04.
[13:46] <markey165> Any help appreciated?
[13:49] <newtoubuntu> Would you recommend to try and fix the propper Nvidia drivers or stick with vesa (because of kernel parameter) and try to adjust the resolution? Advice for any viable approach would be really awesome since I am stuck at this for days :(
[13:52] <Neptu> hej anyone knows how to bond 2 network cards into 1 conection to get more throwput?
[13:54] <markey165> Is this the right channel for ubuntu help questions?
[13:54] <slidinghorn> markey165, yep :) Feel free to ask your question (with as much detail as possible) and someone will help if they know the answer
[14:00] <TJ-> Neptu: yes, but depends on what is at the other end of the connection; LACP is one option
[14:01] <TJ-> Neptu: here's a config I use for bonding 4 NICs to a switch to do that. http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/systemd-networkd-bonding.txt
[14:22] <markey165> When i run inxi -G it says "Display: server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: vesa unloaded: fbdev,modesetting ...............how do i change my driver from vesa to "modesetting"?
[14:26] <ducasse> markey165: save http://termbin.com/aozg as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-modesetting.conf and restart x
[14:31] <Neptu> TJ-: I have a 1 cloud machine with 2 nicks and a big cache i just want to boost throwput against serveral other machines in the cloud reading from that one
[14:31] <Neptu> TJ-: is not a question to get more speed is a question to handle more connections and throwput
[14:32] <TJ-> Neptu: that'll only work if you've got a switch in-between you can configure the bonding on
[14:32] <Neptu> TJ-: sorry no switch only one machine and 2 network cards
[14:33] <TJ-> Neptu: if you're going to bond NICs there has to be something at the other end to unbond the link
[14:33] <Neptu> TJ-: all i can do is play with the ubuntu
[14:33] <TJ-> Neptu: you could bond between 2 hosts as a point-to-point link, but that won't benefit multiple hosts
[14:34] <Neptu> TJ-: maybe then is not exactly what Im looking for.. the idea is that all servers will still connect to same ip but the reply can come from one or another
[14:34] <TJ-> Neptu: that sounds like load-balancing
[14:34] <spacecrab> yeah boosting the availability of shared storage is going to work better with either CDN-like implementations, or load balancing
[14:34] <Neptu> TJ-: yep problem donno how to do loadbalacing ifconfig level
[14:34] <spacecrab> if you mean to get serious locally, you'll need more than a couple NICs likely
[14:35] <spacecrab> @TJ- mentioned the possibility of bonding, but that's up to not only your OS, but also your networking equip which it sounds like is not an option
[14:36] <spacecrab> protip: this is why architecture surrounding NAS and SAN devices are so complicated sometimes
[14:42] <TJ-> Neptu: are these systems bare-metal or virtual machines?
[14:42] <CoolerZ> hey
[14:42] <CoolerZ> i installed whois, because for some reason its not installed by default in ubuntu 18.04 lts
[14:42] <Neptu> TJ-: virtual machines
[14:43] <CoolerZ> but its printing some weird message instead of showing the A record
[14:43] <TJ-> Neptu: so the links may depend on the underlying host, and the network infrastructure
[14:43] <blackflow> CoolerZ: it's not an essential tool. Pastebin the message?
[14:43] <TJ-> CoolerZ: whois is for registry queries; "dig" is for DNS record queries
[14:43] <CoolerZ> https://paste.pound-python.org/raw/ijhXT62f9zOi7d3KFrUK/
[14:44] <blackflow> CoolerZ: right, there's no whois entry for www.google.com
[14:44] <blackflow> whos entries are usually not set for subdomains. contrary to popular belief, www is a subdomain.
[14:46] <Neptu> TJ-: the nics are independent units which on the other side have max of bw... what i intent is to aggregate the bw  to be able with only one vm to handle more concurrent connections
[14:46] <blackflow> (and lol yeah, my brain read your post as "showing no record", you need dig for DNS)
[14:47] <CoolerZ> blackflow, what is whois?
[14:47] <CoolerZ> i thought it was for querying dns records
[14:48] <blackflow> CoolerZ: it's domain ownership registry.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHOIS
[14:49] <TJ-> Neptu: more concurrent connections does not require aggregate bandwidth; you could achieve that with round-robin DNS with both NICs
[14:50] <blackflow> CoolerZ: if you want to query DNS records, you need a tool like `dig` from dnsutils
[15:08] <uio> Vive Debian!!
[15:08] <Neptu> TJ-: is a way yes
[15:11] <leftyfb> uio: can we help you with something?
[15:12] <uio> leftyfb: I had  a question about Geany a while ago, but I found the Geany channel. Thanks, though!
[15:13] <markey165> ducasse: Sorry just seen your reply. I didn't think Ubuntu 18.04 used xorg.conf anymore? That dir doesn't exist on my system. Should it be there?
[15:15] <mouses> markey165: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1051343/where-is-the-xorg-conf-file-in-ubuntu-18-04
[15:18] <markey165> mouses: I have that page open funnily enough. It gives a list of places to look for the xorg.conf file, but having looked, it doesn't exist in any of those locations
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> markey165: How did you install Ubuntu on your system?
[15:19] <varaindemian> Anyone knows if I can update the bios of my machine without having to install windows?
[15:20] <varaindemian> https://support.lenovo.com/ro/en/downloads/ds102110
[15:20] <varaindemian> this is the iso
[15:20] <markey165> Might be worth mentioning, i installed mate (which i think removed Gnome), then uninstalled it, as I thought it hadn't worked properly, and ended up with no desktop at all.  I think in the process it removed some packages it now needs
[15:20] <pragmaticenigma> varaindemian: There are methods for running the BIOS upgrade tools, but it depends on who made your system and what method they use to update the BIOS
[15:21] <pragmaticenigma> markey165: You installed Ubuntu MATE?
[15:21] <hans_> varaindemian, the "BIOS Update (Bootable CD)
[15:21] <hans_> " probably doesn't care what your OS is, the OS compat list is completely irrelevant (not to mention misleading), you don't need Windows to burn an ISO to a disk and boot up from it.
[15:21] <markey165> pragmaticenigma: Default install direct from DVD ISO. I then installed mate (which i think removed Gnome). I then uninstalled mate (as i thought it hadn't installed properly) and on reboot, i found i had no desktop manager at all. I managed to reinstall mate, the only issue is I am now stuck on ONE monitor and stuck in VESA mode
[15:21] <hans_> all you need is a CD burner, an empty CD, and dd. alternatively use an USB stick & dd
[15:23] <pragmaticenigma> markey165: If this is a recently installed system, I honestly would just start from the beginning again with the desire Ubuntu flavor you desire to run. Trying to fix it after the fact, is really complex and more time intensive then just starting over. If you have a bunch of stuff already configured in there, we can make a best effort
[15:24] <pragmaticenigma> But it may still have some bugs and glitches
[15:26] <markey165> pragmaticenigma: haha yes, I was half considering this, but thought, how hard can it be to change a Video driver lol. So it seems simply installing Mate, and then Removing Mate has removed far more than expected.
[15:26] <markey165> and left my machine stuck in VESA mode
[15:27] <ioria> markey165, propably it removed xserver-xorg-core
[15:28] <markey165> ioria: I ran apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core to fix that
[15:28] <pragmaticenigma> markey165: I suspect ioria is on the right trail. There was probably a dependency somewhere that got removed which triggered Xorg to also be removed. There is a lot more than xserver-xorg-core needed though. Hence the recommendation to just start from scratch. Otherwise you'll be playing wack-a-mole with us till we find "most" of the packages that are missing
[15:29] <ioria> markey165, what you have as graphic,intel ?
[15:30] <vlt> Hello. `convert --version` on Ubuntu 18.04 tells me "ImageMagick 6.9.7". On https://flif.info/software.html it says "ImageMagick supports FLIF since versions 6.9.4-5 and 7.0.1-7". But convert file.png file.flif creates another PNG image. Any idea how to produce a FLIF?
[15:40] <pragmaticenigma> vlt: what are you using to verify flif format?
[15:40] <ioria> !info flif-tools cosmic
[15:45] <pragmaticenigma> i can't even find the package to install it ioria
[15:46] <ioria> pragmaticenigma, it's for cosmic ... 18.10
[15:46] <pragmaticenigma> ah
[15:46] <ioria> pragmaticenigma, trying to compile it on bionic
[15:50] <mmlj4> how do I tell from bash what version of ubuntu I have?
[15:51] <leftyfb> mmlj4: cat /etc/issue , or lsb_release -a
[15:52] <mmlj4> ah, got it... apt/sources.list
[15:52] <mmlj4> that too, thanks
[15:52] <Finalight> or lsb_release -a
[15:52] <leftyfb> mmlj4: sources.list is a very poor and incorrect way to determine
[15:56] <vlt> pragmaticenigma: I looked at the output of `file file.flif` which said PNG, the file size is nearly identical and a hexdump of the first bytes looks very much like PNG format.
[15:57] <markey165> ioria: inxi -G reports "Graphics:  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 630 driver: N/A"
[15:58] <ioria> markey165,  xserver-xorg-video-intel, and better paste  lspci -nnk
[15:59] <vlt> !info flif-tools bionic
[16:04] <ioria> vlt, the cosmic source seems to work
[16:04] <ryuo> I have a printer hooked up to one Ubuntu system and shared through CUPS, but any other Linux systems on my network don't respect the default printer settings set on the remote CUPS server. Is there anyway to force them to do so?
[16:05] <markey165> ioria: ok I reinstalled the intel package (although i think i had already done that) , and got....0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 5 not to upgrade.
[16:05] <markey165> ioria: The relevant line from lspci is >> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 630 [8086:5912] (rev 04) 	Subsystem: Dell HD Graphics 630 [1028:07a1]
[16:06] <ioria> markey165,  i'am going afk for few minutes; please paste lspci -nnk
[16:07] <lunacat> Not going to the @UbuntuSverige Sprint this week feeling bad physical and mental
[16:08] <pragmaticenigma> lunacat: Welcome to the support channel, do you have a support issue we can help with? For commentary and other topics, please check out the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[16:09] <markey165> ioria: output of lspci -nnk https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X8fqSNwVPN/
[16:10] <lunacat> pragmaticenigma: sent it in #ubuntu-se where its home, sorry
[16:13] <markey165> ioria: Also the folder "/lib/modules/4.15.0-42-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm" appears to be missing i915 Intel driver files, that are present in another machine of the same model
[16:20] <ioria> markey165,   dpkg -l | grep 4.15.0-42
[16:21] <TJ-> markey165: ioria: should have: /lib/modules/4.15.0-38-lowlatency/modules.alias:alias pci:v00008086d00005912sv*sd*bc03sc*i* i915
[16:21] <TJ-> markey165: so the i915 module claims the modalias for that device 8088:5912
[16:22] <nacc> markey165: do you not have the -extra kernel package installed, possibly?
[16:23] <ioria> TJ-, sounds complicated
[16:23] <markey165> ioria: TJ-: Ok whilst trying to figure out what packages were missing, we found linux-image-generic was missing. That has insalled a TON of stuff, including the missing i915 folder in the previously mentioned location
[16:23] <markey165> ioria: TJ-: I'm just going to reboot and see if this fixes the issue!
[16:23] <ioria> oky
[16:27] <sentiment> hello back
[16:28] <sentiment> TJ-: following our conversation about my botched upgrade to 18.04, now I will paste some logs from the upgrade.
[16:28] <sentiment> Which upgrade log file should I paste though?
[16:29] <sentiment> there are four files: main.log , history.log, apt-term.log, apt.log
[16:33] <sentiment> anybody there?
[16:33] <sentiment> can somebody please help me fix this botched upgrade?
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> !patience | sentiment
[16:35] <sentiment> thank you
[16:35] <nacc> sentiment: probably pastebin them all separately
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: for better solving, try to re-ask your original issue to the channel, current volunteers dont know where you stopped
[16:35] <sentiment> oh you are here nacc , good :)
[16:35] <nacc> sentiment: i'm about to be on the phone, but yeah, use pastebin and provide any logs you can
[16:36] <sentiment> I think nacc knows though, right?
[16:36] <nacc> sentiment: and probably the output of `sudo apt update; sudo apt -f install`
[16:36] <nacc> sentiment: i'm just one of many volunteers
[16:36] <sentiment> ok, thank you. God bless you
[16:38] <sentiment> how can I redirect the output of cat to the clipboard?
[16:38] <sentiment> I don't want to open those files one by one
[16:38] <nacc> !pastebin
[16:38] <nacc> !pastebinit
[16:39] <sentiment> ok thanks
[16:39] <markey165> ioria: TJ-: Bingo, that was it! The missing package was linux-image-generic. My 3 monitors are all now working :-)
[16:39] <ioria> markey165, ok
[16:40] <sentiment> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Ph3xtksdBk/
[16:40] <sentiment> nacc: great command! :)
[16:40] <markey165> ioria: thanks for your help :-)
[16:40] <ioria> markey165, no prob
[16:40] <sentiment> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5HSKFjG6Yp/
[16:41] <sentiment> I think these two are enough. first one was main.log and the latter was history.log
[16:41] <sentiment> also, there are various folders with the timestamps being all one day
[16:42] <sentiment> those were from the first folder
[16:42] <sentiment> I was not sure which one should I paste
[16:42] <sentiment> just the times are different
[16:42] <tchakatak> sentiment: still working on your upgrade ?
[16:42] <sentiment> tchakatak: yeah :/
[16:43] <sentiment> actually, been using Windows for the most part because I didn't feel like fixing it or whatever since then
[16:43] <tchakatak> sentiment: As i said the other time, why are you not reinstalling completly the os. Your squashfs error was from your removable media
[16:44] <tchakatak> (there is no real excuse to use windows. :x)
[16:45] <sentiment> Because I prefer to save my net traffic. OK I know I am wasting the more precious time in your opinion...
[16:45] <sentiment> I wanted to actually try to fix and put some time into it before giving up
[16:46] <sentiment> I believe I haven't tried that yet
[16:46] <sentiment> just random apt commands was not much of a try tbh
[16:46] <tchakatak> Thing is, fixing that kind of broken system is really hard for a beginer.
[16:47] <sentiment> so is that a conclusion based on the log?
[16:47] <tchakatak> its definetly not impossible but, really hard.
[16:47] <sentiment> I see
[16:48] <sentiment> If I have to do a fresh install, I'd install 16.04 again and then I might try to upgrade it.
[16:48] <tchakatak> No.
[16:48] <tchakatak> install directly a 18.04
[16:48] <sentiment> but you mentioned something about removable media..
[16:48] <tchakatak> you will not save any bandwith by doing so
[16:48] <sentiment> oh ok
[16:49] <tchakatak> if you use 16.04 and upgrade, or download 18.04 you will use almost the same
[16:49] <sentiment> are you sure? because well the OS is already installed and it will be well... an upgrade no?
[16:50] <sentiment> can you please answer my question about the logs?
[16:50] <sentiment> you said something about removable media
[16:50] <tchakatak> if i remember well last time you had error using squashfs no ?
[16:51] <tchakatak> there is upgrade your system cant do because some dependencies are broken
[16:51] <sentiment> and do you recommend installing 18.10 instead of 04 if I go that route?
[16:51] <TJ-> sentiment: the log shows grub-pc post-installation script failing with exit code 10
[16:52] <TJ-> sentiment: try this manually: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" ... this may generate a similar error, but helps us narrow it down
[16:52] <sentiment> tchakatak: I don't remember. I mean, there were some problems with some packages according to dpkg and  I sortted them out
[16:52] <sentiment> now there are no warnings or errors according to dpkg
[16:52] <sentiment> same for apt-get
[16:53] <slyjester> I need some guidance one troubleshooting GUI perf degradation over time. Logging out and back in again seemed to help. Not sure where to start looking for problems. Anyone have suggestions?
[16:53] <sentiment> TJ-: OK, but there are newer folders for the upgrade, and that one was from the first try. Should I continue?
[16:53] <sentiment> Should I paste the logs from the last upgrade log folder?
[16:54] <sentiment> or should I do as you suggested?
[16:54] <TJ-> sentiment: did the last upgrade seem to succeed, but left the system in an unstable state?
[16:54] <sentiment> yes it did
[16:54] <sentiment> there was some message about it as well at the end of upgrade
[16:55] <sentiment> something like not everything went right
[16:55] <sentiment> I think it must be in the last log
[16:55] <sentiment> let me see
[16:55] <TJ-> sentiment: I forgot now, so can you describe, exactly, what specific errors you're experiencing now?
[16:56] <sentiment> well, the biggest one is that the old X desktop fails to respond completely. I am using wayland right now
[16:56] <sentiment> but even in wayland, Nautilus crashes, and banshee and rhythmbox can't play anything
[16:56] <sentiment> I see them reporting errors in the terminal, not easy to fix as far as I can see.
[16:57] <TJ-> sentiment: can you capture and pastebin the nautilus errors? they may give a clue
[16:57] <sentiment> yes
[16:58] <sentiment> gowd this is exciting :p
[16:59] <sentiment> TJ-: GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 20:29:00.471: g_type_add_interface_dynamic: assertion 'G_TYPE_IS_INSTANTIATABLE (instance_type)' failed
[16:59] <sentiment> before that , is a warning:
[17:00] <sentiment> Two different plugins tried to register 'NautilusDiscBurn'.
[17:01] <sentiment> trying to remove or reinstall that plugin now
[17:02] <coz_> sentiment,  out of curiosity, did you try   sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[17:04] <coz_> sentiment, not that it will solve the issue, however it may
[17:05] <sentiment> I did yes
[17:05] <TJ-> sentiment: ahhh, now I'm recalling. Plugins!
[17:06] <sentiment> but that package is not even installed
[17:06] <sentiment> NautilusDiscBurn
[17:07] <sentiment> there is autilus-extension-burner though
[17:08] <sentiment> installed it now... am I on the right path?!
[17:08] <sentiment> now purging it
[17:08] <Soltis> I have a .bash_profile that contains exclusively "echo $PATH" - nothing else. When I run su - x for that user, it outputs "echo: command not found". Note nothing in my configs is tampering with $PATH; everything is stock. This is on Ubuntu 16.04 - what exactly is going on?
[17:09] <fallenour_> hey everyone, Ive got a unique issue, and I know its not really ubuntu related, but I figured Id ask anyways. I need help getting a bios update on my servers. Can anyone offer any advice? I have the firmware im supposed to have from dell, but i cant get the ISO to build properly it seems.
[17:09] <sentiment> TJ-: no avail
[17:09] <Soltis> Note that it also fails with builtins like "export" if I attempt to export a variable in the bash_profile
[17:09] <TJ-> sentiment: seems like all extensions are installed under /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/nautilus/extensions-3.0/
[17:09] <TJ-> sentiment: try this: "dpkg -S /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/nautilus/extensions-3.0/"
[17:10] <TJ-> sentiment: that command will list packages and the files they contain that match that path
[17:11] <sentiment> ok got rid of one warning at last, but still crashes of course
[17:11] <sentiment> ok
[17:12] <sentiment> good command :)
[17:12] <sentiment> deja-dup, nautilus-extension-brasero:amd64, nautilus: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/nautilus/extensions-3.0
[17:12] <sentiment> I did reinstall them all numerous times though
[17:12] <sentiment> the deja-dup and brasero packages
[17:13] <sentiment> when I removed dup nautilus nagged that it needs to be installed
[17:13] <TJ-> sentiment: it might be worth temporarily removing them to try and narrow down the cause, those errors in the log may not be the cause of the problem
[17:13] <sentiment> it didn't say so explicitly though
[17:13] <sentiment> ok
[17:14] <dr4ken> folks, which are the commands for upgrading from 16.04 to 18.04 trough APT/trminal?
[17:14] <tchakatak> apt dist-upgrade ?
[17:14] <spacecrab> ^
[17:14] <sentiment> dr4ken: don't do that! :p
[17:14] <tchakatak> sentiment ...
[17:15] <spacecrab> iirc now-a-days dist-upgrade is a lot more trustworthy than it used to be :P
[17:15] <sentiment> just enjoy the stability you have now
[17:15] <spacecrab> also 18.04.1 has been my daily driver for like 3mo now and is going exceedingly well. happy to be on gnome again
[17:15] <sentiment> unless you want to be occupied for a week trying to fix the upgrade
[17:15]  * sentiment runs
[17:16] <tchakatak> sentiment its because you had a lot of custom stuff on your distrib and you didnt let it finish correctly
[17:16] <sentiment> I don't know really
[17:16] <sentiment> I am a cautious person most of the time
[17:16] <tchakatak> dr4ken: be sure you have update and upgrade everything before updateing
[17:16] <sentiment> I only had PPAs for Microsoft and Opera
[17:17] <sentiment> ^ oh and I did that too
[17:17] <rfm> dr4ken, the official instructions are in the release notes, look for "to upgrade on a server system" for the CLI.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes
[17:17] <sentiment> maybe the mirrors were at  fault , dunno
[17:17] <tchakatak> sentiment computer fault ? :)
[17:17] <sentiment> TJ-: purged them all
[17:17] <dr4ken> tchakatak, sentiment, spacecrab, what about "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y && sudo do-release-upgrade" ?
[17:17] <sentiment> now there is only one error:
[17:17] <sentiment> Settings schema 'org.gnome.DejaDup' is not installed
[17:18] <TJ-> sentiment: does Nautilus crash ?
[17:18] <dr4ken> rfm, exactly im reading that page, but they mention do-release-upgrade
[17:18] <tchakatak> dr4ken: look at the manual
[17:18] <sentiment> yes
[17:18] <sentiment> TJ-: that error led me to install one of those extensions
[17:18] <tchakatak> dr4ken: then do as they say :)
[17:18] <sentiment> DejaDup
[17:18] <slyjester> Anyone else notice gnome GUI becoming laggy over time in 18.04 / 18.10? (using nvidia drivers)
[17:19] <spacecrab> @dr4ken oyu're right, do-release-upgrade should be the last step and is the command which actually brings you to a new release
[17:19] <dr4ken> yeah the thing is, i dont know the diff. between apt dist-upgrade and do-release-upgrade
[17:19] <TJ-> sentiment: then we can use the debugger to capture the crash: "gdb --args nautilus" then at the (gdb) shell prompt type "run" and wait until the process crashes
[17:19] <sentiment> tchakatak: I don't know really, something went wrong and I don't think I did anything wrong.
[17:19] <spacecrab> dr4ken disconnected right as he asked lol
[17:20] <sentiment> I mean I didn't have 'lots' of custom stuff etc
[17:20] <spacecrab> welcome back
[17:20] <sentiment> TJ-: holy crap, do we have to go that deep now?
[17:20] <spacecrab> @dr4ken dist-upgrade upgrades _all_ packages to latest on current version, while do-release-upgrade actually does the major version upgrade
[17:21] <dr4ken> spacecrab, so basically, do-release-upgrade method should be only used AFTER an apt update&upgrade right?
[17:21] <TJ-> sentiment: if the program crashes of course; it'll give us an exact stack trace of what is failing
[17:21] <sentiment> it crashed now
[17:21] <spacecrab> i would only do it that way @dr4ken, yes. but i'm sure it has it's own checks too. can't hurt, in any case.
[17:21] <sentiment> ok it says libglib2.0
[17:21] <sentiment> problem with that
[17:22] <TJ-> sentiment: OK, type "bt full2 to get a backtrace and pastebin the trace itself
[17:22] <sentiment> Thread 1 "nautilus" received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
[17:22] <sentiment> 0x00007ffff7906e11 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
[17:22] <TJ-> sentiment: oops, typo. "bt full"
[17:22] <sentiment> No symbol "full2" in current context.
[17:22] <sentiment> ah ok
[17:23] <sentiment> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SFfdnQdCVB/
[17:24] <sentiment> should I reinstall that lib?
[17:24] <sentiment> glib
[17:24] <sentiment> if it's a stacktrace, then that one is at fault
[17:24] <sentiment> it's the last call right?
[17:24] <TJ-> sentiment: no. you said you uninstalled the dejadupe extension?
[17:24] <sentiment> yes
[17:25] <TJ-> sentiment: stack frame #8 is in /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-3.0/libdeja-dup.so  so the file is still there. Was nautilus running when you did the uninstall? is another instance of nautilus running besides the one you're currently testing?
[17:26] <TJ-> sentiment: that file should have been removed when the package was removed, unless it was held open by an active process
[17:27] <sentiment> I see no nautilus at all
[17:27] <sentiment> that is the problem. it crashes
[17:27] <sentiment> let me check though
[17:27] <sentiment> give me one minute
[17:28] <nacc> TJ-: possibly that path is a symlink? i wonder if it isn't cleaned up properly
[17:28] <rfm> Soltis, got to be something strange in /etc/profile.  (Not thinking of an option that says "disable builtins", though.)
[17:29] <nacc> could `dpkg -S` that path to make sure
[17:29] <TJ-> nacc: I don't think so, it's the only .so in the package
[17:29] <nacc> TJ-: in 18.04 that's  not the correct path
[17:29] <nacc> deja-dup: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/nautilus/extensions-3.0/libdeja-dup.so
[17:29] <sentiment> oh this is getting interesting... brb :)
[17:29] <TJ-> nacc: oh good spot!
[17:29] <rfm> Soltis, what does "type echo" say in that shell?  how about "./bin/echo $-" (to see the 'set' options..)
[17:31] <nacc> TJ-: sorry, i should have said that first, found that from apt-file
[17:31] <nacc> TJ-: and i wonder if they moved in 16.04 -> 18.04 and something left a symlink behind (i only see one symlink in the path you referred to on  my 18.04 system)
[17:33] <TJ-> nacc: I'm wondering that too; checking in a container
[17:34] <TJ-> aha sentiment deja-dup: /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-3.0/libdeja-dup.so
[17:34] <TJ-> sentiment: that is from 16.04
[17:36] <TJ-> sentiment: nacc: right, so it looks like the 16.04 package(s) haven't been removed during the upgrade
[17:37] <nacc> TJ-: right, we should be able to see by `apt-cache policy deja-dup` or by dpkg itself
[17:37] <nacc> on that path, i mean (`dpgk -S /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-3.0/libdeja-dup.so`
[17:37] <TJ-> nacc: I suspect as deja-dup was removed we won't see anything :)
[17:38] <nacc> hopefully not :)
[17:38] <TJ-> nacc: this is a left-over due to the broken release-upgrade I think; which makes detecting other similar breakages ... problematic
[17:38] <nacc> but it's a good sanity check ;)
[17:38] <nacc> TJ-: ah could be
[17:38] <TJ-> can't use debsums
[17:39] <TJ-> the only way would be to use debsums from a grafted-on 16.04 /var/lib/dpkg/info/* to check for 16.04 files present
[17:39] <nacc> right
[17:39] <nacc> alternatively, if that's just a symlink, delete it and see if the problem goes away ;)
[17:39] <TJ-> I've done that before with an overlay mount but I doubt sentiment is in a position to do that
[17:40] <TJ-> nacc: right, but this is just one of a range of other symptoms
[17:40] <sentiment> nacc: no path found matching pattern /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-3.0/libdeja-dup.so
[17:41] <TJ-> I suppose we could use debfoster to get a list of top-level packages from 18.04, then apply that in a container/chroot of 16.04, *then* overmount to /var/lib/dpkg/info/ and run debsums
[17:41]  * sentiment shivers
[17:41] <TJ-> sentiment: this is trivial compared to some stuff I have to do :P
[17:41] <ntd> still no openssl updates?
[17:41] <ntd> CVE-2018-0732, CVE-2018-0734, CVE-2018-0735, CVE-2018-0737, CVE-2018-5407
[17:41] <sentiment> haha
[17:41] <ntd> over a week old
[17:42] <sentiment> so now... I first try to remove that symlink
[17:42] <sentiment> right?
[17:42] <sentiment> then continue from there?
[17:42] <nacc> ntd: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2018/CVE-2018-0732.html already fixed everywhere
[17:42] <TJ-> sentiment: yes
[17:42] <ntd> also: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/11026
[17:42] <ntd> can you believe this...
[17:42] <TJ-> sentiment: is it a symlink, or a file?
[17:43] <nacc> ntd: please read the rest of them, and see what their status is. no point in asking this cahnnel for info taht is readily available to you
[17:43] <ntd> nacc, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2018/CVE-2018-5407.html
[17:43] <ntd> etc
[17:43] <JimBuntu> ntd: CVE-2018-0732 was originally publishedon NVD back on 6/12/2018
[17:43] <ntd> yeah, the first one is oooold
[17:43] <nacc> ntd: right, and that tells you everything anyone in the support channel can tell you.
[17:44] <ntd> CVE-2018-5407, bionic still vuln
[17:44] <sentiment> TJ-: a file
[17:45] <sentiment> ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV)
[17:45] <ntd> not the end of the world, but i get antsy because ub usually trail deb by weeks when it comes to openssl
[17:45] <sentiment> so can't remove it I guess
[17:45] <sentiment> so it's getting touch from here right?
[17:45] <TJ-> sentiment: nacc OK, so this could be affecting other packages. But for now, delete that file and try nautilus
[17:46] <ntd> in addition to that *freaky* new systemd vuln i linked to (https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/11026):
[17:46] <nacc> ntd: in any case, this isn't really a support topic. You coudl try #ubuntu-hardened (I feel like I have mentioned that channel to you in the past, but I migth be misremembering)
[17:46] <ntd> https://usn.ubuntu.com/3816-3/ <--- In order to continue to support this configuration, the fixes for CVE-2018-6954 have been reverted"
[17:46] <ntd> "We apologize for the inconvenience."
[17:47] <nacc> ntd: do you have a support question?
[17:47] <ntd> really? you reverted the remote root vulnfix is systemd "because reasons"?
[17:47] <ntd> in
[17:47] <sentiment> TJ-: nautilus kind of stuck now... timeout was reached error
[17:47] <pragmaticenigma> ntd: Do you have a support question. If not, your conversation belongs in the #ubuntu-offtopic channels
[17:47] <sentiment> didn't open, neither did it crash
[17:47] <nacc> ntd: that is not a remote root volunerability.
[17:48] <ntd> afaik it is if you systemd does dhcp
[17:48] <TJ-> sentiment: I have the feeling there are other stray files from 16.04 lingering
[17:49] <sentiment> yeah
[17:49] <sentiment> how long will you be here? unfortunately I have to leave now
[17:50] <TJ-> sentiment: At this point it does point to needing to do a clean (re)install of 18.04; Save /home/ /etc/ and possibly some bits under /var/ if you databases and other configs
[17:50] <sentiment> OK bbl... thanks for the help :)
[17:51] <TJ-> sentiment: I seem to recall you wanted to limit bandwidth use, but to fix this as it stands would need to do a chroot install of 16.04 to be able to detect the problem files
[17:51] <sentiment> so not worth it ... OK point taken tchakatak ;)
[17:51] <sentiment> bye all
[17:52] <raidghost> How is USB support when it comes to qemu and virtual machine?
[17:52] <tchakatak> told you
[17:52] <sentiment> haha
[17:54] <tchakatak> raidghost: really good ?
[18:47] <prof2004> hi
[18:49] <prof2004> I have a problem to start ubuntu 18.04.1 after the latest system update
[18:50] <lordcirth> prof2004, what happens?
[18:50] <prof2004> system hangs after Msg starting daily APT upgrade and clean activities
[18:51] <ioria> prof2004, your kernel ?  uname -r
[18:52] <prof2004> I was wundering, if the radeon fx 460 was not addressed well, and have extracted the card from the system
[18:52] <prof2004> 4.15.0-42-generic
[18:53] <ioria> prof2004, you mean rx ?
[18:53] <prof2004> yes, sorry
[18:54] <ioria> prof2004, can you boot with 'nomodeset' ?
[18:55] <prof2004> what do I have to do, to set this option?
[18:55] <TJ-> prof2004: how about checking the logs with "journalctl -b -1 -p warning"
[18:56] <ioria> prof2004, if yo canno login , in some way, we cannot collect infos
[18:57] <ioria> prof2004, do you see the Grub screen at boot ? if not, press shift or esc and press 'e'
[18:57] <prof2004> i am logged into the system, after using recovery mode, but system is very slow and the resolution is low and cannot be modified. Only 2 of my 3 monitors are working
[18:58] <prof2004> journalctl -b -1 - p warning is entered since minutes but no answer
[18:59] <ioria> prof2004,  this happened after an upgrade ?
[18:59] <prof2004> yes, 2 days ago, I have done the system upgrad as so often before, but instead of the reboot system hangs, no other modification
[18:59] <TJ-> prof2004: it might take a few seconds but not minutes; I wonder if there's an I/O error on the storage device
[19:00] <ioria> prof2004,  cat  /var/log/apt/history.log  | pastebinit
[19:00] <TJ-> prof2004: try "dmesg" if you have a console that is still usuable, look for I/O errors
[19:01] <ioria> prof2004,  could be a kernel issue  with amdgpu and 4.15.0-42
[19:01] <prof2004> when i just entered control C to finish journalctl, there comes a list of lines printed out
[19:02] <ioria> prof2004,  have you tried a previous kernel ?
[19:02] <prof2004> udo (my system) systemd-tmpfiles: unsafe symlinks encountered in /dev/...... (several files)
[19:03] <prof2004> yes, i have tried
[19:03] <prof2004> I have also made a mem check, everything seems ok
[19:03] <ioria> prof2004,  can you paste this  ?  cat  /var/log/apt/history.log  | pastebinit
[19:05] <prof2004> I have entered it, but display hangs again, may be not the system, but the display
[19:05] <prof2004> will try control c again
[19:06] <prof2004> it is the display driver not working well
[19:06] <prof2004> pastebinit is not installed
[19:06] <prof2004> shall i install?
[19:06] <ioria> prof2004,  sudo apt install pastebinit
[19:06] <prof2004> ok, wait a minit
[19:08] <prof2004> done
[19:09] <ioria> prof2004,  paste the url you got
[19:09] <prof2004> result is http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VbKtGmwGn9/
[19:10] <prof2004> I am on another system to chat with you, so I needs some time to type everything
[19:12] <prof2004> I got the system started, going into recovery mode, added network support, entered root, made an apt update, and full upgrade
[19:13] <prof2004> after that, i have restartet from recovery mode, getting the system info, that from here not all graphics driver  are starting
[19:13] <prof2004> but the system has started, with the low graphics mode and only 2 monitors
[19:14] <prof2004> when I do a normal start, the system hangs again
[19:14] <ioria> prof2004,  but right now are you logged in console or in the gui de?
[19:15] <prof2004> i am logged in the gui
[19:15] <prof2004> have a terminal window open
[19:15] <ioria> prof2004,  cat /proc/cmdline  (you can paste here)
[19:15] <prof2004> some of the information in the window is only refreshed, when I move the cursor across
[19:18] <ioria> prof2004,  sy, but i don't understand why you cannot chat from that machine ...
[19:20] <AUXORION> hi
[19:20] <AUXORION> can someone give me an echo
[19:20] <prof2004> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-42-generic root=UUID=1cc12ebe-9674-46ab-9a0a-cc038fa9a835 ro recovery nomodeset
[19:20] <hggdh> AUXORION: sorry, did not understand you
[19:20] <prof2004> I can try to do, wait pls
[19:20] <AUXORION> That's good enough
[19:21] <AUXORION> First time using irssi, wasn't sure if it joined okay
[19:21] <AUXORION> l8r
[19:22] <prof2004> have hexchat installed, but have to login as prof for the first time, pls wait
[19:25] <prof2004> system told me, host unknown
[19:26] <prof2004> may be, we can go on with the chat here
[19:26] <ioria> prof2004,  do you have connectivity on that pc ?
[19:27] <prof2004> yes
[19:27] <prof2004> ping google.de works
[19:28] <ioria> prof2004, ok...  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[19:29] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9nNMzvwTyZ/
[19:29] <aux> :)
[19:33] <ioria> prof2004,this is almost useless ,in recovery mode
[19:33] <prof2004> so, what do I have to do?
[19:34] <prof2004> I am no on freenet on the ubuntu system
[19:34] <ioria> prof2004, can you reboot and try to open a console  (ctrl+alt+f2 ) ?
[19:34] <prof2004> have to manage to register me as prof2004
[19:34] <prof2004> yes, I will do and will be back soon
[19:35] <ioria> prof2004, not in recovery, i mean
[19:36] <prof2004> ok, so how can I start in console mode?
[19:38] <ioria> prof2004, ctrl+alt+f2
[19:38] <prof2004> during boot?
[19:39] <ioria> prof2004, sorry, sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[19:39] <prof2004> I am now out of the system, it has startet normal and stalled
[19:39] <ioria> prof2004, ok wait ...
[19:40] <prof2004> shall I go back to system recovery mode?
[19:40] <ioria> prof2004, please, reboot normally your system (not in recovery); let it boots and when it halts try to press ctrl+alt+f2
[19:40] <prof2004> ok
[19:41] <prof2004> yes, done
[19:41] <prof2004> login as root?
[19:42] <ioria> prof2004, nope, paste again Xorg.0.log
[19:42] <ioria> prof2004, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[19:42] <prof2004> I am no logged in as user
[19:42] <prof2004> will do the cat
[19:42] <ioria> prof2004, why ?
[19:43] <prof2004> I got the console login
[19:43] <prof2004> root did not work
[19:43] <prof2004> but my user login worked
[19:43] <ioria> prof2004, why do you want login as root ?
[19:44] <prof2004> no idear, to get all rights? Sorry about my action
[19:44] <ioria> prof2004, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[19:44] <prof2004> there is now a modification to my system, during my typing here
[19:45] <prof2004> it is fallen back to the start frequence an stalles again
[19:45] <prof2004> contrl alt F2 does not work now
[19:45] <prof2004> system hangs
[19:46] <ioria> prof2004, are you saying that your tty console has loggeg you out ?
[19:46] <ioria> *logged
[19:47] <prof2004> yes, it has vanished, and the system msgs from the normal startup have coming up on the screen
[19:47] <ioria> prof2004,  press ctrl+alt+f3
[19:48] <prof2004> no reaction
[19:48] <ioria> prof2004,  wait a bit and try again
[19:48] <prof2004> ok
[19:49] <prof2004> no reaction
[19:50] <ioria> prof2004,  reboot -> grub -> advanced options -> recovery -> resume
[19:53] <prof2004> have my login
[19:53] <ioria> prof2004,  cat /etc/default/grub  | pastebinit
[19:55] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dgqcJczWZh/
[19:56] <ioria> prof2004,  why have you changed it ?
[19:56] <prof2004> sorry, what do you mean?
[19:56] <ioria> prof2004,  drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug  and drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug
[19:57] <ioria> prof2004,  drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug  and GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=None
[19:57] <prof2004> I do not understand
[19:57] <ioria> prof2004,  it's not the default  version
[19:58] <prof2004> I am totally confused now. I have got the graphics card out of the system, as I told you before, to eliminate a possible graphics error
[19:59] <strangerr> When I create an apparmor profile for mariadb, the service refuses to start due to denial of access to 'run/systemd/notify'. when I add that path with rw access to the apparmor profile for mariadb, the service still fails to start due to denial of access to that socket.
[19:59] <ioria> prof2004,  this is the default version : http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qGSv7T3GG9/
[19:59] <prof2004> The asus prime Z370 has its own graphics
[20:00] <prof2004> So what are you telling me, what did I wrong and what shall I do?
[20:01] <strangerr> i did notice that apparmor is referencing the socket using the relative path 'run/systemd/notify' but the convention within apparmor profiles is to use an absolute file path. i think this discrepancy is why my rule is not taking effect.
[20:01] <ioria> prof2004,  cd /etc/default/grub   and backup that  file (grub,i mean) and replace with the version i pasted
[20:02] <strangerr> my question is: what file do i look into editing to change the path mariadb is using to speak with the systemd notify socket/=
[20:03] <strangerr> i want to trace how systemd is starting mariadb.service
[20:03] <ioria> prof2004,  cd /etc/default/
[20:04] <prof2004> done
[20:04] <prof2004> I am in default
[20:04] <prof2004> lol
[20:04] <ioria> prof2004,  cat /etc/default/grub  | pastebinit
[20:04]  * Matrix8967[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/FFFyeSePmpgMKgfMAJHXRcUa >
[20:05] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/z99PSpjF8W/
[20:05] <ioria> prof2004,  told you to replace that file
[20:06] <prof2004> sorry, I did not understand, I will make a copy and what is the file I have to use instead of?
[20:07] <prof2004> do you mean the file "grub" do you?
[20:07] <ioria> prof2004,  first backup:  sudo cp grub grub.back
[20:07] <prof2004> ok, i will do
[20:08] <prof2004> done
[20:09] <ioria> prof2004,  sudo nano  grub  , and replace the content with this :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qGSv7T3GG9/
[20:09] <prof2004> ok, wait a moment
[20:10] <Matrix8967[m]> This got me fixed up I think...
[20:10] <Matrix8967[m]> Carry on.
[20:10] <Matrix8967[m]> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3595/list-explicitly-installed-packages/3624#3624
[20:11] <okdana> strangerr: i don't know very much about apparmor, but could it be that you need it to be /{,var/}run/...?
[20:18] <ioria> prof2004,  just a copy/paste
[20:19] <prof2004> done
[20:19] <ioria> prof2004,  cat /etc/default/grub  | pastebinit
[20:20] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h36Hs7B4cs
[20:20] <prof2004> It needs more time, because the display is not working well
[20:20] <ioria> prof2004,  sudo update-grub
[20:21] <prof2004> done
[20:21] <ioria> prof2004,  reboot if it fails we try with the 'amdgpu.dc=0' parameter
[20:22] <prof2004> ok, wait
[20:23] <prof2004> I got the ubuntu std boot window with the 5 red dots below of ubuntu
[20:24] <prof2004> the start stalls now
[20:24] <prof2004> there are 2 other monitors working now.
[20:24] <prof2004> and the monitors are now dark
[20:24] <prof2004> all
[20:25] <ioria> prof2004,  if stuck, reboot in recovery and we change /e/d/grub with a new parameter
[20:26] <prof2004> when I did ctr alt del, all 3 monitors listed the boot messages and system restarted
[20:27] <prof2004> I will restart in recovery mode now
[20:27] <prof2004> again with resume?
[20:27] <ioria> prof2004,  have we choice ? :þ
[20:28] <prof2004> no, lol
[20:28] <prof2004> if it works someday, let me understand what happens
[20:29] <ioria> prof2004,  atm it's not working
[20:30] <prof2004> that is, what I have thaught, that is, why I have got the RX card out of the system
[20:30] <ioria> prof2004,  you pulled it out ?
[20:31] <prof2004> yes, I told you, to eliminate an error reason
[20:31] <prof2004> I thaught, that the system will easier start with the on board graphics
[20:31] <ioria> prof2004,  paste    lspci -nnk| pastebinit
[20:32] <ioria> prof2004,  i lost that part
[20:32] <prof2004> I had already a lot of work to bring the rx up and running under ubuntu 16, and while migrating on 18
[20:32] <prof2004> I am a not so young IT prof, so I learned to eliminate problems step by step :-)
[20:32] <ioria> prof2004,     lspci -nnk| pastebinit
[20:32] <prof2004> ok
[20:33] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/p9Bkqcxfsv/
[20:35] <ioria> prof2004,    so you are busing intel and intelmodule not loadind ?
[20:35] <ioria> *using
[20:35] <prof2004> should so, yes
[20:35] <prof2004> the graphics is not running good, refresh is not working well
[20:35] <ioria> prof2004,   sudo apt install --reinstall linux-generic
[20:36] <prof2004> ok
[20:37] <prof2004> done, but no so much happens
[20:37] <prof2004> nothing is loaded down
[20:37] <prof2004> 2 dpkg warnings
[20:38] <ioria> prof2004,  paste them
[20:38] <prof2004> file list of paket libroutermanager-plugins-gstreamer1 is missing
[20:38] <prof2004> file list of paket libroutermanager0 is missing
[20:38] <azi`> can someone help me out with this issue? it only happens if I run gpg as sudo:
[20:38] <azi`> gpg --recv-keys 01EA5486DE18A882D4C2684590C8019E36C2E964
[20:38] <azi`> gpg: keyserver receive failed: No data
[20:39] <azi`> otherwise its all fine
[20:39] <prof2004> system has de-packed linux-generic 4.15.0.42.44 and made a setup
[20:40] <ioria> prof2004,  what desktop are yoiu using unity or gnome-shell ?
[20:41] <prof2004> the new one, i think it is gnome, right
[20:41] <prof2004> how can i check?
[20:41] <ioria> prof2004, env | grep -i desktop
[20:42] <prof2004> gnome
[20:44] <ioria> prof2004, the only issue i can see now is the 8th intel core cpu
[20:44] <prof2004> you mean this wonderful i7 8700 cpu?
[20:45] <ioria> prof2004, yes... :)
[20:45] <prof2004> is the cpu damaged?
[20:45] <ioria> prof2004, idt so
[20:45] <prof2004> ok, so I have to contact my supplier
[20:46] <ioria> prof2004, reboot
[20:46] <prof2004> ok
[20:47] <prof2004> all 3 monitors are working with the dots
[20:47] <prof2004> the dots have stalled
[20:47] <prof2004> I remember, that I had this behavior, when I moved to 18.04
[20:48] <prof2004> On 16.04 I have used the drive form the RX supplier, but they not working under 18.04
[20:48] <prof2004> but here we got something else, I do not remember the name, but it worked well
[20:49] <prof2004> the system is still stalled
[20:49] <ioria> prof2004  i915.alpha_support=1 maybe ?
[20:49] <prof2004> what do you mean?
[20:50] <prof2004> after a dark monitor, now the messages are displayed
[20:50] <ioria> prof2004  it was for 16.04 and cofee lake
[20:50] <prof2004> last one, started hold until boot process finishes up
[20:51] <prof2004> this msg was already before
[20:52] <prof2004> when starting user sessions
[20:53] <prof2004> last one before was started LSB: Starts or stops the xinetd daemon..
[20:53] <ioria> prof2004  still black ?
[20:53] <prof2004> no, read my last posts
[20:54] <ioria> xinted daemons ? still exists ?
[20:54] <prof2004> yes
[20:55] <prof2004> and what i have seen before, when I have pushed the main button of the system to restart, the system showed some more messages to go down, it was not dead
[20:55] <prof2004> I think it is waiting for something
[20:56] <ioria> prof2004  xinetd it's no more in use,afaict
[20:56] <prof2004> I have no clue, it is what is printed out
[20:57] <prof2004> is there any way to reinstall the system without loosing all my setups and data?
[20:57] <ioria> prof2004  start thinking it's not agraphic issue
[20:58] <prof2004> you know, the system worked fine since month with the setup and hardware, until the last system update
[20:59] <teward> prof2004: a reinstall probably wouldn't solve the problem because when you apply updates again you'll have a similar problem.  but unless your /home/ data is in a separate partition there is no easy way to reinstall while keeping your configs, etc. the same (you'd have to back up your data first to another device)
[20:59] <ioria> prof2004  boot the 4.15.0-39 kernel (or what you have as spare)
[20:59] <prof2004> data is no problem
[21:00] <prof2004> ok, i will do a normal boot from the prev kernel
[21:01] <prof2004> i am starting with .39
[21:02] <ioria> prof2004  i saw a libunity update in your history.log,so i asked you what de were in use
[21:02] <prof2004> sorry?
[21:02] <ioria> never ind
[21:02] <ioria> *mind
[21:03] <prof2004> I do not understand
[21:03] <ioria> not relevant
[21:04] <prof2004> the system starts with the .39 version similar to the other version, currently all monitors are black
[21:04] <ioria> prof2004  run out of ideas, maybe keep asking or come back back tomorrow .... we'll find a fix
[21:05] <prof2004> If I do create a live usb and start from this usb stick, and it works, than there should be a problem with the curr. setup, right?
[21:05] <ioria> right
[21:05] <prof2004> system is on again with the same status, waiting for boot process
[21:06] <prof2004> Let us finish our trials right now. Many thanks to you, ioria, for your support.
[21:06] <prof2004> I will try the usb stick and come back here afterwards, may be tommorow.
[21:09] <prof2004> good night to all
[21:17] <diverdude> hi, i have windows 10 installed on C-drive. There are only 20G left on C drive. I have also a D drive with 800G left. Is it possible to install ubuntu as a dual boot on D drive? What implications might it have?
[21:23] <sabrehagen> My cli applications are rendering incorrectly under tmux and I can't figure out why. Ubuntu 14.04, tmux 2.8, $TERM=xterm-256color, zsh. https://i.imgur.com/dbAL0EO.png
[21:24] <sabrehagen> How should I proceed on debugging this issue?
[21:30] <okdana> locale issue?
[21:35] <glaucom> hi all
[21:35] <glaucom> how start libreoffice from php ?
[21:35] <glaucom> https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/001b2f50e3bb96ea9e3d6a07c8c76f3c/image.png
[21:35] <glaucom> https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/95aa434b653e1b326482f2578376fee5/image.png
[21:36] <diverdude> hi, i have windows 10 installed on C-drive. There are only 20G left on C drive. I have also a D drive with 800G left. Is it possible to install fedora as a dual boot on D drive? What implications might it have?
[21:36] <teward> glaucom: you would have issues doing that from within PHP
[21:36] <teward> because PHP doesn't have the GUI access
[21:36] <diverdude> not fedora, i mean ubuntu
[21:37] <glaucom> i can start libreoffice from php script
[21:40] <nacc> glaucom: are you running debian?
[21:40] <nacc> glaucom: also, your question is probably meant for a php specific channel, like #php
[21:41] <glaucom> debian, ubuntu , same problem
[21:41] <nacc> glaucom: you said "how start libreoffice from php ?" and "i can start libreoffice from php script"
[21:41] <nacc> glaucom: so ... you know the answer to your own question?
[21:42] <nacc> glaucom: or do you mean from a webservice?
[21:42] <glaucom> webservice
[21:43] <nacc> glaucom: what would that even mean? a webservice would spawn libreoffice on your webserver?
[21:43] <glaucom> yes
[21:43] <glaucom> on server runing php , open in lxde libreoffice gui
[21:43] <nacc> glaucom: how is that at all useful? in any case, you need php support for this, as it has nothing to do with ubuntu really
[21:44] <zzero1> 148f:3070 (rtl8187l ) @Linux xubuntu 4.15.0-29-generic #31-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 17 15:39:52 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux modules loaded  rt2800usb rt2x00usb rt2800lib rt2x00lib Not working. Need some guidance (Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS)
[21:44] <zzero1> is there any precompiled package with the drivers ?
[21:45] <zzero1> modprobe rtl8187 says I do not have any rtl8187 kmodule installed
[21:46] <nacc> rtl8187.ko is in the -extra package
[21:47] <zzero1> this does not seem to compile
[21:47] <nacc> zzero1: ?
[21:47] <nacc> zzero1: there is nothing to compile in the extra package
[21:47] <zzero1> https://github.com/Dekadencee/rtl8187-Linux-Driver
[21:47] <zzero1> sorry
[21:48] <nacc> zzero1: 1) you are running a very out of date kernel (-29 and 18.04 is on -42). 2) do you have the corresponding -extra modules package installed? (linux-modules-extra-4.15.0-29-generic)
[21:48] <zzero1> well I'm running from live usb
[21:48] <zzero1> no hdd at the moment
[21:49] <nacc> zzero1: that answers, to some degree, 1)
[21:49] <nacc> zzero1: can you answer 2) ?
[21:49] <zzero1> hold on
[21:49] <zzero1> yes
[21:50] <nacc> `dpkg -S rtl8187.ko` in a pastebin
[21:50] <zzero1> set to manually installed.
[21:50] <kinghat> i had some funny stuff happen when installing VB: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/eeb0e2ca/ and now something similar with a snap package: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/f91e2f11/
[21:50] <roadfish> I'm on Linux and MacOS and a relative of mine is on Windows. We are using Skype but I'm wondering if there is something else.
[21:50] <roadfish> I see this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VoIP
[21:51] <nacc> kinghat: your systemd appears fubar
[21:51] <roadfish> Any opinions on a good voip if the other person is on Windows.
[21:51] <zzero1> https://privatebin.net/?9d1ebae063d2f8ab#z/Zs6xY5PQAb16uljSh9BN3xLVf7A60MgSiTlOCoOCM=
[21:51] <kinghat> lol
[21:51] <nacc> roadfish: skype works fine, or you can use google hangouts/meet
[21:51] <roadfish> I don't need to be part of some large network like Sype
[21:51] <roadfish> /s/Sype/Skype
[21:52] <nacc> zzero1: and what does `sudo modprobe rtl8187` say?
[21:52] <xamithan> webrtc
[21:52] <roadfish> nacc: ok, so lots of Linux people stick with Skype.
[21:52] <roadfish> I'm just annoying because my Skype account is blocked up.
[21:52] <nacc> roadfish: dunno, just saying it does work. I don't know what "blocked up" means
[21:53] <roadfish> I mean something went wrong with my Skype account recently.
[21:53] <nacc> roadfish: ok. not really a topic for here :)
[21:53] <roadfish> ok, sure sorry ... I'll drop this whole Skype thread
[21:53] <roadfish> I was just here to ask if there are Ubuntu people using something besides Skype.
[21:54] <zzero1> registered new interface driver rtl8187
[21:54] <roadfish> Hopefully that's more on-topic
[21:54] <nacc> zzero1: so ... it works fine? you said before it doesn't.
[21:54] <leftyfb> roadfish: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:55] <nacc> roadfish: unfortunately, polling for software isn't really a support topic. I'd suggest the channel leftyfb recommended or even just #linux. Be patient. Search around a bit too
[21:55] <roadfish> Thanks. Don't want to pollute this channel. Thanks for telling me where to go.
[21:56] <kinghat> nacc: like not fixable?
[21:57] <de-facto> Is there a good lightweight IDE for CPP? CodeBlocks is extremely annoying and unstable...
[22:02] <de-facto> compiling with CodeBlocks lets it just crash almost 50% of the cases!
[22:10] <CarlFK> can I resize a vfat fs?  like this is 782m, I want to bump it up to 1g    http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/cosmic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz
[22:10] <Platonides> CarlFK: yes
[22:10] <qwebirc95665> hi, i just got an error: Failed to register: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Connection ":1.178" is not allowed to own the service "org.nutty" due to AppArmor policy
[22:10] <Platonides> as with most filesystems, gparted can do that nicely in a graphical way
[22:10] <qwebirc95665> i tried to open nutty
[22:11] <qwebirc95665> is apparmor my antivirus or somethin?
[22:11] <CarlFK> Platonides: do you know how I can script it?
[22:12] <hyperlumic> qwebirc95665: AppArmor is a system that prevents things from doing things they shouldn't.
[22:13] <qwebirc95665> oh
[22:13] <Platonides> CarlFK: then you need to look at the underlying program used to do that...
[22:13] <qwebirc95665> hyperklumic how can i found out if apparmor was wrong or nutty?
[22:17] <qwebirc95665> https://pastebin.com/hMtjCdmY
[22:28] <CarlFK> Platonides: does parted need a partition table?  and is vfat aka fat16 or 32?  im looking at https://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_chapter/parted_2.html#SEC25
[22:31] <Goop> Hey, so I've been trying to use my XP-pen tablet with Ubuntu LTS 18.04, but the driver from them won't seem to execute. Here, let me pull up some of the errors and things that I've tried.
[22:33] <kinghat> nacc just has this happen after puter started acting up and had to hard reset: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/mOECtGoF/image.png and then terminal log is doing this: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/1b0c50ea/
[22:36] <Goop> Okay, so here is more information on my issue with getting the XP-pen drawing tablet to work on Ubuntu: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8GQMQwxVHS/
[22:57] <ash_worksi> does it follow FHS to put apgdiff ("Another Postgres Diff tool") files in `/usr/local/lib` and create a file called `/usr/local/bin/apgdiff` to run the command `java -jar "$(find /usr/local/lib/apgdiff/ -type f -name 'apgdiff-*.jar')" "$@"` ?
[22:58] <Goop> Okay, so I may have found a solution for my problem. However, gksudo does not exist in 18.04, what is the solution?
[22:58] <ash_worksi> ^ sounds like a riddle
[22:58] <ash_worksi> "I am a solution, but I do not exist. What is the solution?"
[23:00] <ash_worksi> "32 white horses on a red hill; first they chomp, then they stomp, then they stand still. What are they?"
[23:00] <ash_worksi> (I guess it should be 16 white horses on 2 red hills)
[23:01] <ash_worksi> but then it wouldn't rhyme
[23:25] <erisco> systemd keeps starting my service on boot even though I removed the multi user target... any ideas?
[23:35] <xamithan> did you do a systemctl disable service
[23:35] <hyperlumic> 68 seconds.
[23:35] <hyperlumic> They were here for a total of 68 seconds.
[23:35] <xamithan> oh