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julianko/16:02
cyphermoxo/16:03
rbalinto/16:03
cyphermoxvorlon: you around to chair?16:04
tdaitxo/16:04
cyphermoxI'll take that as a no16:05
cyphermox#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team16:05
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Dec  6 16:05:50 2018 UTC.  The chair is cyphermox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:05
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cyphermox#topic Lightning rounds16:05
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cyphermoxecho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson rcj philroche Odd_Bloke fginther juliank platonical tobikoch)16:06
cyphermoxtdaitx sil2100 rcj xnox mwhudson juliank infinity fginther bdmurray platonical Odd_Bloke cyphermox philroche doko rbalint tobikoch vorlon16:06
tdaitx* openjdk-11 update with autopkgtests16:06
tdaitx  - seeing lots of failures in the ppa builds, disk space was reported as a problem, but vbuilders have 60 GB disk16:06
tdaitx  - still got failures afre removing intermediate testsuite files16:06
tdaitx  - arm and intel failed, ibm worked fine, launchpad team said nothing was changed so package changes were probably at fault16:06
tdaitx  - more often disk usage sampling finally indicated a testsuite that grew by 30 GB in less than 2 minutes (local build is faster and on a ssd)16:06
tdaitx  - investigating which particular tests are at "fault", then decide to either ignore them (depending on importance) or free space somewhere else16:06
tdaitx* openjdk-11 migration to bionic16:06
tdaitx  - local rebuilds of packages that need patching and must be build with openjdk-1016:06
tdaitx  - sorting out what new package dependencies are being used on debian since cosmic16:06
tdaitx(done)16:06
gaughensil2100 is in CPT, and riding back to the hotel16:06
gaughenrcj16:06
rcj* tons of vacation16:07
rcj(done)16:07
gaughenxnox is out today16:07
gaughenmay be on airplane16:08
gaughenmwhudson is sleeping hopefully16:08
gaughenjuliank,16:08
juliank* magic apt stuff16:08
cyphermoxsuper moo powers! yay16:08
juliankhttps://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/commit/294b5e77a25d2600e7f3ce12a996d1694b5be81716:08
juliank(done)16:08
cyphermoxfginther:16:09
fginther* Partner calls16:10
fginther* Posted job opening: https://boards.greenhouse.io/canonical/jobs/145631416:10
fginther(done)16:10
fgintherbdmurray:16:10
bdmurraysubmitted RT #115646 re staging ET access to porter-i386.canonical.com16:10
bdmurraysubmitted RT re updating daisy code in Error Tracker16:10
bdmurrayreported oopsrepository bug LP: #1805912 - and fixed it too16:10
bdmurrayalso fixed another bug regarding writing to BucketMetadata16:10
bdmurrayworked with IS regarding failed daisy update and also a separate bad unit16:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1805912 in Daisy "BucketMetadata has some junk in it" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180591216:10
bdmurraymodified ET mojo spec not to use rabbitmq-stats plus some other stuff16:10
bdmurraymerged libreoffice bionic badtest hint from osomon16:10
bdmurrayreviewed rbalint's monster unattended-upgrades SRU16:10
bdmurrayreview of Ubuntu Bug Control application from Canonical employee16:10
bdmurrayspecial SRU review / release of netplan.io for Bionic16:11
bdmurrayworked on allowing ubuntu-release-upgrader to attempt an upgrade with16:11
bdmurray PPAs enabled16:11
bdmurrayNow errors.ubuntu.com doesn't have any strange releases on the front page, something Adam had brought up a bit ago.16:11
bdmurrayIt was a bit complicated but looks nice now.16:11
bdmurray✔ done16:12
bdmurrayplatonical:16:12
platonical* Livecd-rootfs SRUs:16:12
platonicalhttps://code.launchpad.net/~codyshepherd/livecd-rootfs/bionic-proposed-snaps-manifest/+merge/35964516:12
platonicalhttps://code.launchpad.net/~codyshepherd/livecd-rootfs/xenial-proposed-snaps-manifest/+merge/35964916:12
platonical* Bug verification on LP: #180113416:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1801134 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu Xenial) "/etc/resolv.conf broken in Xenial minimal" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180113416:12
platonical* Partner image work16:12
platonical(done)16:12
platonicalOdd_Bloke:16:12
Odd_Bloke* Various partner pieces of work16:12
Odd_Bloke* Investigated using Sentry for build system error tracking16:12
Odd_Bloke* Moved old trusty releases to our S3 archive to free up disk space on the cloud-images.u.c host16:12
Odd_Bloke(done)16:12
Odd_Blokecyphermox:16:12
cyphermox MIR: review gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons16:12
cyphermox- plymouth: update upstream patches for keyboard deactivation16:12
cyphermox- Secure Boot/ grub SRU testing (Windows 10 / MAAS chainloading) (bug LP: #1792575)16:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1792575 in shim-signed (Ubuntu Xenial) "Boot failure with efi shims from 20180913.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179257516:12
cyphermox- netplan:16:12
cyphermox - finishing up tunnel support (integration tests + parent device issues)16:12
cyphermox - workaround for device matching issues when MACs are shared16:12
cyphermox- Whitepaper: writing up Secure Boot PKI stuff.16:12
cyphermox- debugging NM+dnsmasq autopkgtests fail in disco16:12
cyphermox(done)16:12
tobikochp_hilroche is ooo16:14
tobikochdoko:16:14
doko- packaged GCC 7.4 release, update 8.216:14
doko- some MIRs16:14
doko- preparing bionic test rebuild16:14
doko- OpenJDK 12 packaging, reviewed new OpenJDK 11 packaging changes16:14
doko- fixing various ftbfs16:14
doko- debhelper merge (pending since June)16:14
doko(done)16:14
rbalint* meld new upstream release 3.18.316:14
rbalint* created unattended-upgrades mirror on Salsa with CI config16:14
rbalint  https://salsa.debian.org/rbalint/unattended-upgrades16:14
rbalint* followed up on unattended-upgrades SRU regressions16:14
rbalint* fixed old LP: #1806678 in git16:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1806678 in rax-nova-agent (Ubuntu) "rax-nova-agent can be upgraded without upgrading python3-novaagent, then it crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180667816:15
rbalint* fixed LP: #1806076 on apt's side in git16:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1806076 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "unattended-upgrade --help raises UnicodeEncodeError when stdout encoding is ascii" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180607616:15
rbalint* collected bzr branches of one round of Foundation's packages for git conversion16:15
rbalint* proposed check for motd news format:16:15
rbalint  https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/ubuntu-motd/check-news-format/+merge/36019516:15
rbalint* also for nicer minimized motd:16:15
rbalint  https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/livecd-rootfs/separate-motd-minimized/+merge/36019316:15
rbalint* fixed foolscap autopkgtest16:15
rbalint* packaged new twisted 18.9.0 upstream16:15
rbalint(done)16:15
tobikoch* mfdiff refactoring16:15
tobikoch* vanguarding16:15
tobikoch* some image build parallellelization work16:15
tobikoch* minor amount of partner work16:15
tobikoch(done)16:15
cyphermox#topic Release incoming bugs16:16
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cyphermox#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs16:16
cyphermox(and this time I got the right URL)16:16
cyphermoxbdmurray: anything on that report you want to talk about?16:16
bdmurrayI noticed Adam took bug 1797335 but there isn't a card for it16:16
ubottubug 1797335 in glibc (Ubuntu) "strstr() on ubuntu18.04 8 times slower than on ubuntu16" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179733516:16
bdmurraySo should we create one?16:17
gaughenhe's got it in the glibc sru he's working on16:18
gaughenbdmurray, so yes, to creating one and it should go straight to in progress16:18
bdmurraygaughen: ack16:18
gaughenbdmurray, you'll create it?16:18
bdmurraybug 1805490 was raised by seb16:18
ubottubug 1805490 in grub2-signed (Ubuntu) "Grub2 Failed to install "efibootmgr failed to register the boot entry: Block device required."" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180549016:18
bdmurraygaughen: when my system is working better yes16:18
gaughenlet me do it then16:19
cyphermoxbdmurray: not new16:19
cyphermoxI'll take it though, see if there's more to get out of this now16:19
gaughencyphermox, bdmurray and I'll card this one too16:19
bdmurraycool16:19
cyphermoxgaughen: ta16:19
bdmurraythen there is bug 1804673 which may have an upstream fix16:20
ubottubug 1804673 in gnutls28 (Ubuntu) "gnutls causes gnome-music segmentation fault" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180467316:20
gaughenI have one quesiton on that last one16:20
cyphermoxwow16:20
gaughenis this warm enough that we should look at it in the next couple of weeks, or can it wait until Jan?16:20
cyphermoxis that not a desktop bug?16:20
juliankI'd cherry-pick the gnutls one, that should be trivial, but not sure about SRU testing16:21
bdmurrayno, seb said gnutls is ours which is true16:21
cyphermoxok16:21
cyphermoxwell, yeah, gnutls is ours16:21
cyphermoxmy point was it's easy to use gnutls wrong in gnome-music that would lead to a segfault16:22
juliankAPT uses gnutls, so I tend to take care of it when I see it somewhere16:22
cyphermoxbut since it's been tracked down to gnutls itself16:22
gaughenI'll card this beasty also bdmurray, it does look like one we should look at16:22
cyphermoxjuliank wants to take it?16:22
gaughensounds like it16:22
juliankyeah16:22
cyphermoxcool16:22
bdmurrayThen there is bug 1805027 which I'm keeping an eye since I experience it too16:23
ubottubug 1805027 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd-resolved can't resolve Comcast mail server addresses" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180502716:23
juliankwho uses comcast mail servers anyway?16:24
bdmurraypeople forced to?16:25
cyphermoxit's a fun bug16:25
juliankCan reproduce to16:26
cyphermoxyup16:26
juliankresolvectl query works, but actually using it fails16:26
cyphermoxit's quite likely EDNS foobar16:26
juliank(on disco)16:26
cyphermox(so that inflight SRU that may or may not be in disco?)16:26
cyphermoxxnox isn't around to claim it, but it can probably wait until he's there?16:27
gaughenso it's confirmed to NOT be addressed by the latest systemd sru?16:27
cyphermoxwe only confirm it's not fixed in disco16:27
bdmurraygaughen: no, it is not. Although I tested it and it didn't help.16:27
juliankit's definitely not fixed in yesterday's disco upload16:27
cyphermoxno clue if the SRU is applied is disco. certainly /should/ be16:27
gaughenI carded it16:27
cyphermoxso maybe it's not the same bug16:28
bdmurrayjuliank: you tested it on disco?16:28
juliankthat includes " resolved: Increase size of TCP stub replies."16:28
cyphermoxwe do have all the info to fix it though, so it's just a matter of how fast it needs to be addressed16:28
juliankyes, with  239-7ubuntu1516:28
cyphermoxheh16:28
juliankcyphermox: before the release16:28
juliank:D16:28
cyphermoxwell, yeah16:28
cyphermoxbut I mean "before xnox is available" or not16:28
cyphermoxI can easily go debug it16:29
juliankGiven that this affects a small group of users, does not seem that high priority16:29
gaughencyphermox, I don't think it's that hot16:29
bdmurrayi think there is a danger of people modifying systems in a bad way16:29
cyphermoxjust not sure if that's a good idea priority-wise ;)16:29
cyphermoxbdmurray: yeah16:29
gaughencyphermox, I don't think it's a jam it in the current iteration16:29
cyphermoxjuliank: it affects a "small" group of many users, the most likely to modify their systems in a bad way, sadly16:29
bdmurrayIts what I did for my dad.16:30
gaughenI've carded it and put it towards the top of general distro16:30
cyphermoxcool16:30
cyphermoxbdmurray: anything else?16:30
juliankit definitely sounds like a fun bug16:30
bdmurrayI kinda wanted to talk about samba ownership but I guess Steve should be around for that.16:31
dokois it ours?16:31
gaughendoko, it's shared with server16:31
cyphermoxack16:31
gaughenbdmurray, I planned to chat with Josh about it later today16:32
cyphermoxpunt until later then?16:32
cyphermox#topic Team proposed-migration report16:32
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bdmurrayOh, it looks like somebody is on it.16:32
cyphermox#link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs16:32
cyphermoxdoko:16:32
cyphermox(samba is nice segway)16:33
dokothe only one is imagemagick16:33
cyphermoxohh16:33
dokofreeipa is not ours, people are trying to migrate to openjdk-11 from -816:33
cyphermoxok16:34
rbalinti can take imagemagick for next week, we have a history with ruby-rmagick :-)16:35
cyphermoxcard then?16:36
gaughensure, I'll create it and put it in your queue rbalint16:36
cyphermoxok; moving on16:36
cyphermox#topic AOB16:36
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cyphermoxanything else from anyone?16:36
rbalintbdmurray, thanks for the monster u-u SRU review! :-)16:37
bdmurrayrbalint: hopefully the rest of the process is smooth16:37
rbalintit looks like so so far16:38
cyphermoxalright16:39
rbalintaob: i plan converiting low-traffic Foundations packages from bzr to git without further coordination, if you want yours to be held back please add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/MigratingFromBzrToGit16:39
cyphermoxthanks everyone! :)16:40
cyphermox#endmeeting16:40
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Dec  6 16:40:02 2018 UTC.16:40
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mIk3_08Hello everyone...19:54
tsimonq2Heyaaa19:56
tsimonq2Anyone else here from the UMB?19:56
mIk3_08hi tsimonq2...19:59
tsimonq2Hey, how are you?19:59
mIk3_08im good. you?20:00
tsimonq2Pretty good.20:00
tsimonq2mIk3_08: I don't know if anyone else will show up, sorry. :(20:00
mIk3_08that's okay.20:01
tsimonq2But I do have a question after seeing your application that would be good to get answered at some point - have you worked with anyone who might be able to advocate for you?20:01
mIk3_08actually, no. im just working on the translations. and applying for the membership to the officially part of it.20:04
mIk3_08i mean to be officially part of the ubuntu membership.20:05
tsimonq2Ahh.20:06
mIk3_08mostly filipino official ubuntu member here in philippines... i think they are so busy to reply20:06
tsimonq2mIk3_08: Has anyone had to review your contributions? Maybe ask them.20:06
tsimonq2I say that because typically we like to see two or more testimonials.20:07
tsimonq2But it's not a hard requirement. :)20:07
mIk3_08tsimonq2: okay tsimonq2. i'll find way for that.20:10
tsimonq2Thanks.20:10
tsimonq2And sorry we couldn't get quorum today.20:10
mIk3_08well That's okay.20:11
mIk3_08tsimonq2: i have a question for you...20:18
mIk3_08is it okay to ask?...20:20
sarnoldmIk3_08: people come and go on irc all the time, it's best to just ask questions and see :)20:21
tsimonq2^ :)20:21
tsimonq2Heya sarnold :D20:21
sarnoldafternoon tsimonq2 :)20:21
mIk3_08tsimonq2 : If nobody can give a testimonials for me coz it seems that they are so busy. Am I not qualified to be official member of ubuntu?20:22
tsimonq2mIk3_08: Your application must be extremely strong if that is the case.20:22
tsimonq2But, other members will ask the question, and they may feel differently.20:23
tsimonq2I am one member with one opinion. ;)20:23
mIk3_08hey sarnold: my internet is so slow... i you give me your wiki. if its okay so that i can know your background. if thats okay. :-)20:25
mIk3_08can you give me your wiki.?20:25
mIk3_08if its okay for you sarnold.20:26
mIk3_08i mean the links20:26
sarnoldmIk3_08: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/sarnold20:26
mIk3_08we have a big internet problem here in philippines and the price is high even loading with wiki ubuntu take time20:28
sarnoldubuntu wiki is *insanely* slow20:28
mIk3_08not only in wiki but also with the other website... takes a lot of time to successfully view the page.20:29
tewardsarnold: maybe we need to poke SA?20:30
mIk3_08hi teward... what is SA?20:31
tewardmIk3_08: i was specifically talking to sarnold, but I was referring to slowness globally on the wiki needing to be sent up to the canonical sysadmins20:31
tewardyou can otherwise ignore my comments, I'm not actually part of the UMB, I just lurk :)20:31
sarnoldteward: heh, they're aware it's pretty poor.. dealing with spam on it takes a lot more system time than it could / should, and switching to something else would requir a huge amount of human time..20:32
sarnoldteward: I wish we could do something more like https://9p.io/wiki/plan9/plan_9_wiki/  "Anyone with a Plan 9 installation can edit the wiki pages. People new to a wiki should play around in the sandbox to gain familiarity with the concept."20:33
mIk3_08hehehe :-) thanks by the way for the concern. ahhhh the page of sarnold is successfully loaded and i've seen that    tsimonq2 is writing a comment with your page. hey, tsimonq2 can you also make a comment in my page. hehehe20:34
tewardspeaking of "your page", you do have one yes? :P20:35
mIk3_08are you asking to me teward? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/mIk3_0820:37
sarnold"This page does not exist yet"20:37
tewardthat'd be because mlk3_08 is the page I found on the UMB page20:37
mIk3_08https://launchpad.net/~mlk3-0820:37
sarnoldthis exists https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mlk3_0820:37
tewardmIk3_08: i think you failed to type the page name right, is that supposed to be an L or an I?  :P20:37
mIk3_08Il20:38
mIk3_08hey teward and sarnold can you help give testimonial on my https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mlk3_0820:42
tewardI don't know you, i can't testify for or against currently.  E:NOINFORMATIONTOSHARE20:42
mIk3_08hehehe...that's okay teward np20:45
tewardmIk3_08: if you need testimonials they should be from other people who you've worked with in the Ubuntu world at large20:46
tewardotherwise the testimonials are useless :P20:46
mIk3_08i did not work with anyone teward. i try my self to volunteer but they always say no.20:49
mIk3_08how about to you teward sarnold and tsimonq2. for the sake of testi...20:50
mIk3_08i think its no again tewar...20:56
mIk3_08i mean teward :-P20:57
mIk3_08i have to go guys....21:00
mIk3_08Bye..21:00
mIk3_08Thanks for the time.21:01
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