[16:02] <juliank> o/
[16:03] <cyphermox> o/
[16:03] <rbalint> o/
[16:04] <cyphermox> vorlon: you around to chair?
[16:04] <tdaitx> o/
[16:05] <cyphermox> I'll take that as a no
[16:05] <cyphermox> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[16:05] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Dec  6 16:05:50 2018 UTC.  The chair is cyphermox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:05] <cyphermox> #topic Lightning rounds
[16:06] <cyphermox> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson rcj philroche Odd_Bloke fginther juliank platonical tobikoch)
[16:06] <cyphermox> tdaitx sil2100 rcj xnox mwhudson juliank infinity fginther bdmurray platonical Odd_Bloke cyphermox philroche doko rbalint tobikoch vorlon
[16:06] <tdaitx> * openjdk-11 update with autopkgtests
[16:06] <tdaitx>   - seeing lots of failures in the ppa builds, disk space was reported as a problem, but vbuilders have 60 GB disk
[16:06] <tdaitx>   - still got failures afre removing intermediate testsuite files
[16:06] <tdaitx>   - arm and intel failed, ibm worked fine, launchpad team said nothing was changed so package changes were probably at fault
[16:06] <tdaitx>   - more often disk usage sampling finally indicated a testsuite that grew by 30 GB in less than 2 minutes (local build is faster and on a ssd)
[16:06] <tdaitx>   - investigating which particular tests are at "fault", then decide to either ignore them (depending on importance) or free space somewhere else
[16:06] <tdaitx> * openjdk-11 migration to bionic
[16:06] <tdaitx>   - local rebuilds of packages that need patching and must be build with openjdk-10
[16:06] <tdaitx>   - sorting out what new package dependencies are being used on debian since cosmic
[16:06] <tdaitx> (done)
[16:06] <gaughen> sil2100 is in CPT, and riding back to the hotel
[16:06] <gaughen> rcj
[16:07] <rcj> * tons of vacation
[16:07] <rcj> (done)
[16:07] <gaughen> xnox is out today
[16:08] <gaughen> may be on airplane
[16:08] <gaughen> mwhudson is sleeping hopefully
[16:08] <gaughen> juliank,
[16:08] <juliank> * magic apt stuff
[16:08] <cyphermox> super moo powers! yay
[16:08] <juliank> https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/commit/294b5e77a25d2600e7f3ce12a996d1694b5be817
[16:08] <juliank> (done)
[16:09] <cyphermox> fginther:
[16:10] <fginther> * Partner calls
[16:10] <fginther> * Posted job opening: https://boards.greenhouse.io/canonical/jobs/1456314
[16:10] <fginther> (done)
[16:10] <fginther> bdmurray:
[16:10] <bdmurray> submitted RT #115646 re staging ET access to porter-i386.canonical.com
[16:10] <bdmurray> submitted RT re updating daisy code in Error Tracker
[16:10] <bdmurray> reported oopsrepository bug LP: #1805912 - and fixed it too
[16:10] <bdmurray> also fixed another bug regarding writing to BucketMetadata
[16:10] <bdmurray> worked with IS regarding failed daisy update and also a separate bad unit
[16:10] <bdmurray> modified ET mojo spec not to use rabbitmq-stats plus some other stuff
[16:10] <bdmurray> merged libreoffice bionic badtest hint from osomon
[16:10] <bdmurray> reviewed rbalint's monster unattended-upgrades SRU
[16:10] <bdmurray> review of Ubuntu Bug Control application from Canonical employee
[16:11] <bdmurray> special SRU review / release of netplan.io for Bionic
[16:11] <bdmurray> worked on allowing ubuntu-release-upgrader to attempt an upgrade with
[16:11] <bdmurray>  PPAs enabled
[16:11] <bdmurray> Now errors.ubuntu.com doesn't have any strange releases on the front page, something Adam had brought up a bit ago.
[16:11] <bdmurray> It was a bit complicated but looks nice now.
[16:12] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[16:12] <bdmurray> platonical:
[16:12] <platonical> * Livecd-rootfs SRUs:
[16:12] <platonical> https://code.launchpad.net/~codyshepherd/livecd-rootfs/bionic-proposed-snaps-manifest/+merge/359645
[16:12] <platonical> https://code.launchpad.net/~codyshepherd/livecd-rootfs/xenial-proposed-snaps-manifest/+merge/359649
[16:12] <platonical> * Bug verification on LP: #1801134
[16:12] <platonical> * Partner image work
[16:12] <platonical> (done)
[16:12] <platonical> Odd_Bloke:
[16:12] <Odd_Bloke> * Various partner pieces of work
[16:12] <Odd_Bloke> * Investigated using Sentry for build system error tracking
[16:12] <Odd_Bloke> * Moved old trusty releases to our S3 archive to free up disk space on the cloud-images.u.c host
[16:12] <Odd_Bloke> (done)
[16:12] <Odd_Bloke> cyphermox:
[16:12] <cyphermox>  MIR: review gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons
[16:12] <cyphermox> - plymouth: update upstream patches for keyboard deactivation
[16:12] <cyphermox> - Secure Boot/ grub SRU testing (Windows 10 / MAAS chainloading) (bug LP: #1792575)
[16:12] <cyphermox> - netplan:
[16:12] <cyphermox>  - finishing up tunnel support (integration tests + parent device issues)
[16:12] <cyphermox>  - workaround for device matching issues when MACs are shared
[16:12] <cyphermox> - Whitepaper: writing up Secure Boot PKI stuff.
[16:12] <cyphermox> - debugging NM+dnsmasq autopkgtests fail in disco
[16:12] <cyphermox> (done)
[16:14] <tobikoch> p_hilroche is ooo
[16:14] <tobikoch> doko:
[16:14] <doko> - packaged GCC 7.4 release, update 8.2
[16:14] <doko> - some MIRs
[16:14] <doko> - preparing bionic test rebuild
[16:14] <doko> - OpenJDK 12 packaging, reviewed new OpenJDK 11 packaging changes
[16:14] <doko> - fixing various ftbfs
[16:14] <doko> - debhelper merge (pending since June)
[16:14] <doko> (done)
[16:14] <rbalint> * meld new upstream release 3.18.3
[16:14] <rbalint> * created unattended-upgrades mirror on Salsa with CI config
[16:14] <rbalint>   https://salsa.debian.org/rbalint/unattended-upgrades
[16:14] <rbalint> * followed up on unattended-upgrades SRU regressions
[16:15] <rbalint> * fixed old LP: #1806678 in git
[16:15] <rbalint> * fixed LP: #1806076 on apt's side in git
[16:15] <rbalint> * collected bzr branches of one round of Foundation's packages for git conversion
[16:15] <rbalint> * proposed check for motd news format:
[16:15] <rbalint>   https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/ubuntu-motd/check-news-format/+merge/360195
[16:15] <rbalint> * also for nicer minimized motd:
[16:15] <rbalint>   https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/livecd-rootfs/separate-motd-minimized/+merge/360193
[16:15] <rbalint> * fixed foolscap autopkgtest
[16:15] <rbalint> * packaged new twisted 18.9.0 upstream
[16:15] <rbalint> (done)
[16:15] <tobikoch> * mfdiff refactoring
[16:15] <tobikoch> * vanguarding
[16:15] <tobikoch> * some image build parallellelization work
[16:15] <tobikoch> * minor amount of partner work
[16:15] <tobikoch> (done)
[16:16] <cyphermox> #topic Release incoming bugs
[16:16] <cyphermox> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:16] <cyphermox> (and this time I got the right URL)
[16:16] <cyphermox> bdmurray: anything on that report you want to talk about?
[16:16] <bdmurray> I noticed Adam took bug 1797335 but there isn't a card for it
[16:17] <bdmurray> So should we create one?
[16:18] <gaughen> he's got it in the glibc sru he's working on
[16:18] <gaughen> bdmurray, so yes, to creating one and it should go straight to in progress
[16:18] <bdmurray> gaughen: ack
[16:18] <gaughen> bdmurray, you'll create it?
[16:18] <bdmurray> bug 1805490 was raised by seb
[16:18] <bdmurray> gaughen: when my system is working better yes
[16:19] <gaughen> let me do it then
[16:19] <cyphermox> bdmurray: not new
[16:19] <cyphermox> I'll take it though, see if there's more to get out of this now
[16:19] <gaughen> cyphermox, bdmurray and I'll card this one too
[16:19] <bdmurray> cool
[16:19] <cyphermox> gaughen: ta
[16:20] <bdmurray> then there is bug 1804673 which may have an upstream fix
[16:20] <gaughen> I have one quesiton on that last one
[16:20] <cyphermox> wow
[16:20] <gaughen> is this warm enough that we should look at it in the next couple of weeks, or can it wait until Jan?
[16:20] <cyphermox> is that not a desktop bug?
[16:21] <juliank> I'd cherry-pick the gnutls one, that should be trivial, but not sure about SRU testing
[16:21] <bdmurray> no, seb said gnutls is ours which is true
[16:21] <cyphermox> ok
[16:21] <cyphermox> well, yeah, gnutls is ours
[16:22] <cyphermox> my point was it's easy to use gnutls wrong in gnome-music that would lead to a segfault
[16:22] <juliank> APT uses gnutls, so I tend to take care of it when I see it somewhere
[16:22] <cyphermox> but since it's been tracked down to gnutls itself
[16:22] <gaughen> I'll card this beasty also bdmurray, it does look like one we should look at
[16:22] <cyphermox> juliank wants to take it?
[16:22] <gaughen> sounds like it
[16:22] <juliank> yeah
[16:22] <cyphermox> cool
[16:23] <bdmurray> Then there is bug 1805027 which I'm keeping an eye since I experience it too
[16:24] <juliank> who uses comcast mail servers anyway?
[16:25] <bdmurray> people forced to?
[16:25] <cyphermox> it's a fun bug
[16:26] <juliank> Can reproduce to
[16:26] <cyphermox> yup
[16:26] <juliank> resolvectl query works, but actually using it fails
[16:26] <cyphermox> it's quite likely EDNS foobar
[16:26] <juliank> (on disco)
[16:26] <cyphermox> (so that inflight SRU that may or may not be in disco?)
[16:27] <cyphermox> xnox isn't around to claim it, but it can probably wait until he's there?
[16:27] <gaughen> so it's confirmed to NOT be addressed by the latest systemd sru?
[16:27] <cyphermox> we only confirm it's not fixed in disco
[16:27] <bdmurray> gaughen: no, it is not. Although I tested it and it didn't help.
[16:27] <juliank> it's definitely not fixed in yesterday's disco upload
[16:27] <cyphermox> no clue if the SRU is applied is disco. certainly /should/ be
[16:27] <gaughen> I carded it
[16:28] <cyphermox> so maybe it's not the same bug
[16:28] <bdmurray> juliank: you tested it on disco?
[16:28] <juliank> that includes " resolved: Increase size of TCP stub replies."
[16:28] <cyphermox> we do have all the info to fix it though, so it's just a matter of how fast it needs to be addressed
[16:28] <juliank> yes, with  239-7ubuntu15
[16:28] <cyphermox> heh
[16:28] <juliank> cyphermox: before the release
[16:28] <juliank> :D
[16:28] <cyphermox> well, yeah
[16:28] <cyphermox> but I mean "before xnox is available" or not
[16:29] <cyphermox> I can easily go debug it
[16:29] <juliank> Given that this affects a small group of users, does not seem that high priority
[16:29] <gaughen> cyphermox, I don't think it's that hot
[16:29] <bdmurray> i think there is a danger of people modifying systems in a bad way
[16:29] <cyphermox> just not sure if that's a good idea priority-wise ;)
[16:29] <cyphermox> bdmurray: yeah
[16:29] <gaughen> cyphermox, I don't think it's a jam it in the current iteration
[16:29] <cyphermox> juliank: it affects a "small" group of many users, the most likely to modify their systems in a bad way, sadly
[16:30] <bdmurray> Its what I did for my dad.
[16:30] <gaughen> I've carded it and put it towards the top of general distro
[16:30] <cyphermox> cool
[16:30] <cyphermox> bdmurray: anything else?
[16:30] <juliank> it definitely sounds like a fun bug
[16:31] <bdmurray> I kinda wanted to talk about samba ownership but I guess Steve should be around for that.
[16:31] <doko> is it ours?
[16:31] <gaughen> doko, it's shared with server
[16:31] <cyphermox> ack
[16:32] <gaughen> bdmurray, I planned to chat with Josh about it later today
[16:32] <cyphermox> punt until later then?
[16:32] <cyphermox> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[16:32] <bdmurray> Oh, it looks like somebody is on it.
[16:32] <cyphermox> #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:32] <cyphermox> doko:
[16:33] <cyphermox> (samba is nice segway)
[16:33] <doko> the only one is imagemagick
[16:33] <cyphermox> ohh
[16:33] <doko> freeipa is not ours, people are trying to migrate to openjdk-11 from -8
[16:34] <cyphermox> ok
[16:35] <rbalint> i can take imagemagick for next week, we have a history with ruby-rmagick :-)
[16:36] <cyphermox> card then?
[16:36] <gaughen> sure, I'll create it and put it in your queue rbalint
[16:36] <cyphermox> ok; moving on
[16:36] <cyphermox> #topic AOB
[16:36] <cyphermox> anything else from anyone?
[16:37] <rbalint> bdmurray, thanks for the monster u-u SRU review! :-)
[16:37] <bdmurray> rbalint: hopefully the rest of the process is smooth
[16:38] <rbalint> it looks like so so far
[16:39] <cyphermox> alright
[16:39] <rbalint> aob: i plan converiting low-traffic Foundations packages from bzr to git without further coordination, if you want yours to be held back please add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/MigratingFromBzrToGit
[16:40] <cyphermox> thanks everyone! :)
[16:40] <cyphermox> #endmeeting
[16:40] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Dec  6 16:40:02 2018 UTC.
[16:40] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-12-06-16.05.moin.txt
[19:54] <mIk3_08> Hello everyone...
[19:56] <tsimonq2> Heyaaa
[19:56] <tsimonq2> Anyone else here from the UMB?
[19:59] <mIk3_08> hi tsimonq2...
[19:59] <tsimonq2> Hey, how are you?
[20:00] <mIk3_08> im good. you?
[20:00] <tsimonq2> Pretty good.
[20:00] <tsimonq2> mIk3_08: I don't know if anyone else will show up, sorry. :(
[20:01] <mIk3_08> that's okay.
[20:01] <tsimonq2> But I do have a question after seeing your application that would be good to get answered at some point - have you worked with anyone who might be able to advocate for you?
[20:04] <mIk3_08> actually, no. im just working on the translations. and applying for the membership to the officially part of it.
[20:05] <mIk3_08> i mean to be officially part of the ubuntu membership.
[20:06] <tsimonq2> Ahh.
[20:06] <mIk3_08> mostly filipino official ubuntu member here in philippines... i think they are so busy to reply
[20:06] <tsimonq2> mIk3_08: Has anyone had to review your contributions? Maybe ask them.
[20:07] <tsimonq2> I say that because typically we like to see two or more testimonials.
[20:07] <tsimonq2> But it's not a hard requirement. :)
[20:10] <mIk3_08> tsimonq2: okay tsimonq2. i'll find way for that.
[20:10] <tsimonq2> Thanks.
[20:10] <tsimonq2> And sorry we couldn't get quorum today.
[20:11] <mIk3_08> well That's okay.
[20:18] <mIk3_08> tsimonq2: i have a question for you...
[20:20] <mIk3_08> is it okay to ask?...
[20:21] <sarnold> mIk3_08: people come and go on irc all the time, it's best to just ask questions and see :)
[20:21] <tsimonq2> ^ :)
[20:21] <tsimonq2> Heya sarnold :D
[20:21] <sarnold> afternoon tsimonq2 :)
[20:22] <mIk3_08> tsimonq2 : If nobody can give a testimonials for me coz it seems that they are so busy. Am I not qualified to be official member of ubuntu?
[20:22] <tsimonq2> mIk3_08: Your application must be extremely strong if that is the case.
[20:23] <tsimonq2> But, other members will ask the question, and they may feel differently.
[20:23] <tsimonq2> I am one member with one opinion. ;)
[20:25] <mIk3_08> hey sarnold: my internet is so slow... i you give me your wiki. if its okay so that i can know your background. if thats okay. :-)
[20:25] <mIk3_08> can you give me your wiki.?
[20:26] <mIk3_08> if its okay for you sarnold.
[20:26] <mIk3_08> i mean the links
[20:26] <sarnold> mIk3_08: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/sarnold
[20:28] <mIk3_08> we have a big internet problem here in philippines and the price is high even loading with wiki ubuntu take time
[20:28] <sarnold> ubuntu wiki is *insanely* slow
[20:29] <mIk3_08> not only in wiki but also with the other website... takes a lot of time to successfully view the page.
[20:30] <teward> sarnold: maybe we need to poke SA?
[20:31] <mIk3_08> hi teward... what is SA?
[20:31] <teward> mIk3_08: i was specifically talking to sarnold, but I was referring to slowness globally on the wiki needing to be sent up to the canonical sysadmins
[20:31] <teward> you can otherwise ignore my comments, I'm not actually part of the UMB, I just lurk :)
[20:32] <sarnold> teward: heh, they're aware it's pretty poor.. dealing with spam on it takes a lot more system time than it could / should, and switching to something else would requir a huge amount of human time..
[20:33] <sarnold> teward: I wish we could do something more like https://9p.io/wiki/plan9/plan_9_wiki/  "Anyone with a Plan 9 installation can edit the wiki pages. People new to a wiki should play around in the sandbox to gain familiarity with the concept."
[20:34] <mIk3_08> hehehe :-) thanks by the way for the concern. ahhhh the page of sarnold is successfully loaded and i've seen that    tsimonq2 is writing a comment with your page. hey, tsimonq2 can you also make a comment in my page. hehehe
[20:35] <teward> speaking of "your page", you do have one yes? :P
[20:37] <mIk3_08> are you asking to me teward? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/mIk3_08
[20:37] <sarnold> "This page does not exist yet"
[20:37] <teward> that'd be because mlk3_08 is the page I found on the UMB page
[20:37] <mIk3_08> https://launchpad.net/~mlk3-08
[20:37] <sarnold> this exists https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mlk3_08
[20:37] <teward> mIk3_08: i think you failed to type the page name right, is that supposed to be an L or an I?  :P
[20:38] <mIk3_08> Il
[20:42] <mIk3_08> hey teward and sarnold can you help give testimonial on my https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mlk3_08
[20:42] <teward> I don't know you, i can't testify for or against currently.  E:NOINFORMATIONTOSHARE
[20:45] <mIk3_08> hehehe...that's okay teward np
[20:46] <teward> mIk3_08: if you need testimonials they should be from other people who you've worked with in the Ubuntu world at large
[20:46] <teward> otherwise the testimonials are useless :P
[20:49] <mIk3_08> i did not work with anyone teward. i try my self to volunteer but they always say no.
[20:50] <mIk3_08> how about to you teward sarnold and tsimonq2. for the sake of testi...
[20:56] <mIk3_08> i think its no again tewar...
[20:57] <mIk3_08> i mean teward :-P
[21:00] <mIk3_08> i have to go guys....
[21:00] <mIk3_08> Bye..
[21:01] <mIk3_08> Thanks for the time.