[00:07] <Platonides> CarlFK: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table#VFAT
[00:07] <Platonides> it will probably be fat32
[00:30] <strangerr> systemd is giving mariadb.service a relative path to the notify socket, which breaks apparmor. consequently, mariadb is shipping an empty apparmor profile. when I go to write my own, i cant, because ubuntu's systemd implementation is passing a realative path to mariadb. systemd people said it's ubuntu's implementation of systemd, which should not be passing unit-files a relative path. how do i file a bug, or is this a know issue alrea
[00:31] <slidinghorn> !bug | strangerr
[00:32] <strangerr> slidinghorn: thanks mang
[01:10] <Steven_M> nvidia question here: https://pastebin.com/raw/gdzignrE
[01:40] <Kremator> hey folks, just did an upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04, so far so "good" except i have a couple of oddities:
[01:40] <Kremator> 1) all the icons' text in the desktop seems to have a shadow, but it is offset by too much and looks wierd
[01:41] <Kremator> example of the issue: http://i.imgur.com/2LjPNyu.png
[01:46] <slidinghorn> any non-WINE applications look like that?
[01:47] <Kremator> slidinghorn, doesnt looks like
[01:48] <Kremator> and just tested my cs 1.6 (under wine) and it does have odds fonts aswell
[01:49] <slidinghorn> Might be something to ask in #winehq
[01:49] <Kremator> slidinghorn, but those icons are on ubuntu, outside wine
[01:51] <slidinghorn> The icons ship from upstream with WINE, I believe
[01:53] <slidinghorn> plus, those are both pretty old games...they might be pretty close to the ones that came packaged from the publisher
[01:54] <Kremator> slidinghorn, that is happening aswell with other icons wtf
[01:54] <slidinghorn> which ones?  Have another screenshot? Is it another WINE application?
[01:55] <Kremator> slidinghorn, yeah, im uploading the screeshot
[01:55] <AndyChow888> Install the wine fonts
[01:55] <Kremator> nope, even my folders icons shows text with weird text
[01:55] <Kremator> slidinghorn, http://i.imgur.com/mfb4GKB.png
[01:56] <Kremator> AndyChow888, sorry, which is the name of the package?
[01:56] <AndyChow888> ttf-mscorefonts, etc
[01:56] <slidinghorn> Kremator, to make it easy:  sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:56] <AndyChow888> Kremator, the easiest way, for wine, is to install winetricks
[01:56] <slidinghorn> and that
[01:57] <AndyChow888> The restricted-extras won't fix the wine issue.
[01:57] <Kremator> which fonts should i install first?
[01:57] <Kremator> nvm, it has a "all fonts" selection
[02:00] <AndyChow888> Yeah. All fonts is the best. corefonts would probably fix it, but why skimp?
[02:01] <Kremator> yeah, specially when storage space is cheap and plentyful these days
[02:03] <Steven_M> nvidia question here: https://pastebin.com/raw/gdzignrE
[02:03] <rud0lf> is there a simple way to show all the matching packages that are _not_ installed?
[02:03] <rud0lf> i've no practice with apt
[02:04] <Kremator> rud0lf, what do you mean exactly by _not matching_
[02:04] <slidinghorn> apt-cache search term
[02:04] <Kremator> i mean, by _matching_
[02:04] <slidinghorn> rud0lf, you can pipe that in to a less command if the list is too long
[02:04] <rud0lf> for example, matching xfce4-*-plugin that are not installed
[05:37] <qwefytuoityty> '
[05:37] <qwefytuoityty> Ubuntu-Mate 18.04.1. What to do with it? sudo sh nvidiadriver.run = https://screenshots.firefox.com/aAj6X9BccYrTZu24
[05:40] <AndyChow888> page not found
[05:42] <AndyChow888> qwefytuoityty, you want to run nvidiadriver.run?
[05:43] <Triffid_Hunter> qwefytuoityty: don't install nvidia drivers like that, you'll break everything. use https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/dev instead
[05:45] <qwefytuoityty> why not install version NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-410.78.run?
[05:46] <qwefytuoityty> not support version NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-410.78.run for ubuntu?
[05:47] <qwefytuoityty> oh linux
[05:48] <AndyChow888> Blame nVidia. Linux has nothing to do with this.
[05:48] <XenophonF> amen
[05:52] <qwefytuoityty> i can install nvidia driver only from Ubuntu repository, not from nvidia website? https://www.nvidia.ru/Download/driverResults.aspx/140242/ru
[05:54] <AndyChow888> It's safer that way. The nVidia releases are likely compiled for a specif kernel version.
[05:55] <AndyChow888> And if you install from the repository, all the updates etc will work, and the kernel parameters are already setup.
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> Triffid_Hunter: why the /dev and not the whole graphics ppa?
[06:17] <Triffid_Hunter> lotuspsychje: doesn't seem to have 396.54.09 or 415.18.04 which are required for vulkan transform feedback - in turn required for dxvk (wine d3d11 to vulkan translator) to work right
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> ah i see Triffid_Hunter
[06:25] <hateball> Triffid_Hunter: are you looking for nvidia ppa?
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> hateball: a user wanted to install .sh driver from nvidia, Triffid_Hunter suggested the graphics ppa /dev to him
[06:27] <hateball> lotuspsychje: Yeah, that'd be the route to go for 396.54.09
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> hateball: and i wondered why, the /dev and not main
[06:27] <hateball> Add the regular nvidia ppa, and the /dev one
[06:28] <hateball> the dev one doesnt have nvidia-settings and such, so it's clever to have both
[06:28] <hateball> if installing nvidia-driver-396 it'll be prefered from dev
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> hateball: why's that?
[06:28] <hateball> 415.18.04 is however not packaged there yet
[06:29] <hateball> lotuspsychje: why's what?
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> the 396 only dev
[06:29] <hateball> lotuspsychje: you mean why it's not in main?
[06:29] <hateball> it's considered a beta driver by nvidia
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> hateball: no i mean you say 396 its prefer
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> ah i get it now
[06:30] <hateball> I'm saying apt will automagically grab the beta driver from /dev if you have both PPAs, but you also are able to get nvidia-settings and other packages from the main PPA
[06:30] <hateball> those are not part of /dev
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> so if its not an optimus, and ubuntu reccomends 396, go for the dev 396 right?
[06:32] <hateball> I'd go for 396 over 415 right now, unless you have 2080 series card that needs 415 driver
[06:32] <hateball> there were some Unity (game engine) bugs with 415 but they might have been fixed now
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> yeah i always reccomend 390 and 396 to the GTX ones, or check what ubuntu-drivers reccomends
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> but wasnt aware of the dev version
[06:34] <Shmam47> Hey I'm having an issue when booting into my ubuntu 18.04 system. It loads through everything and then I see my cursor on the screen but it doesn't load into the desktop environment unless I ALT+F2 and manually do a `startx`. Once I'm in, I can see sddm-greeter using 25% of my cpu. Any ideas on that?
[06:34] <hateball> lotuspsychje: it's really only needed for bleeding edge DVXK stuff
[06:35] <hateball> DXVK*
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:37] <hateball> the latest native games require 396 anyhows, for vulkan stuff as well
[06:38] <hateball> by latest I mean things like Tomb Raider games and so on, not SuperTux :)
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> hateball: yeah seen alot of users helped by the graphics ppa and latest 390 & 396
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> 410 ive seen problems arise
[06:40] <hateball> yep, 410 and 415 were completely unusable on my system for instance
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: are you on kubuntu 18.04?
[06:40] <Shmam> yep
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: upgraded from 16.04 or so?
[06:40] <Shmam> uhh yea
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: might be handy to see the text booting errors, could you screenshot before you can enter sddm?
[06:41] <Shmam> yeah 1 sec, gonna reboot
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: F1 to see the textboot style,
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> hateball: good to know
[06:42] <Shmam> ok is there a way to screenshot this?
[06:43] <Shmam> before I do the alt+f2 dance
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: your camera, or just saying the last lines to us
[06:43] <Shmam> Everything has the [ OK ] before it so im gonna skip that
[06:44] <Shmam> Started set console scheme.  created slice system-getty.slice     started terminate plymouth boot screen   started login service   started simple desktop display manager... started simple desktop display manager
[06:44] <Shmam> those are the last few lines
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: ok and it freezes there? or can you get to login window?
[06:45] <Shmam> freezes there
[06:45] <Shmam> I get a cursor tho somehow
[06:45] <Shmam> cant select text or anything
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: did you have unity also on 16.04 just kubuntu
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> or
[06:47] <Shmam> I dont think so. how can I check?
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: if you didnt install or use it yourself, it should not so dont worry
[06:48] <Shmam> ok I didn't install it or use unity. I've always been with kde
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: you could try at text boot, entering TTY and purge sddm and reinstall right after
[06:48] <Shmam> how do I do that?
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: when your systemd is booting, press ctrl alt F1 or F2 or F3
[06:49] <Shmam> like when it hangs?
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: that will drop you into a tty, no before it hangs
[06:50] <Shmam> doesnt seem to be working
[06:51] <Shmam> I cant switch it fast enough
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: you see a kubuntu logo loading at boot?
[06:51] <Shmam> I'm in tty2 but its already hanging
[06:51] <Shmam> nope
[06:51] <Shmam> only services starting up
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: its that fast booting or?
[06:52] <Shmam> shouldn't be. I think it hangs before the kubuntu logo
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[06:52] <Shmam> intel with the i7-7700U
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> ok nice
[06:53] <Shmam> I saw that issue online too haha
[06:53] <Shmam> but I dont think thats whats causing my problem
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: normally if you can text boot to give us errors, you should be able to enter a tty before
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: can you still enter a grub recoverymode?
[06:54] <Kremator> folks, i had a 18.04 instance that had an encrypted swap, dumbly, i destroyed that partition from outsid using a live cd, now i created a new swap, put it on the fstab and while my system works again, i get 3 minute 20 seconds of bootime...
[06:55] <Kremator> any suggestion what it could be?
[06:55] <Shmam> yeah 1 sec
[06:55] <Shmam> wow theres a lot of kernels here
[06:55] <Shmam> ok im in recovery mode
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: drop to a rootshell with networking please
[07:00] <Shmam> press enter or ctrl+d?
[07:01] <Shmam> enter for maintenance or ctrl+d to continue
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: first enable the networking
[07:01] <Shmam> whoops. shit
[07:02] <Shmam> can I go back
[07:02] <Shmam> or do I need to restart
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: depends what you did
[07:03] <Shmam> just moved down to root shell prompt and hit enter
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: reboot and activate networking first from recovery menu
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> then drop to the rootshell
[07:03] <Shmam> gotcha
[07:04] <Shmam> alright whats next
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: lets see your kernel first, uname -a gives you .42 ?
[07:04] <Shmam> I picked 4.18.0-3-generic from the grub menu
[07:05] <Shmam> not 100% sure that thats the same one that I use normally. should I go check?
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: 4.18 is cosmic kernel, hmm did you play with mainline?
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: bionic kernel should be 4.15.0-42-generic
[07:06] <Shmam> I also had that option
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> ah kk
[07:06] <Shmam> I had an issue with my ssd so I had to use a newer kernel at some point
[07:06] <Shmam> I don't remember if I switched it back or not
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: ok good to know
[07:07] <Shmam> I can go boot back into my regular system and see what kernel that's using if that would be helpful
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: lets see if your up to date: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[07:08] <Shmam> I don't think networking started successfully. It says temporary failure resolving: xxx
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> hmm ok
[07:08] <Shmam> but I did an apt update and upgrade from the terminal right before I rebooted my system
[07:08] <Shmam> so everything should be up to date
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: ok tnx
[07:08] <eden_> if I"m on 18.10 fresh install on a ssd should I worry about noatime... reading conflicting articles.
[07:08] <eden_> anything I need to do to avoid lowering my ssd lifecycle?
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: as you upgraded 18.04 try to boot kernel 4.15 -42 please
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: lets see if you can get to sddm from there
[07:09] <Kremator> folks, please help, im a bit desperate: http://dpaste.com/3CRKMXT.txt
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> eden_: ubuntu is already tweaked for optimal ssd use
[07:09] <Shmam> boot into recovery there or normal boot?
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> eden_: but there are a few tweaks you still can consider
[07:10] <eden_> lotuspsychje: good news, such as to consider?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: normal boot, but with the right bionic kernel
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> eden_: swappiness= 10, install preload, bleachbit your system for cleaning, use 0 cache on browsers,..
[07:11] <eden_> lotuspsychje, I'll dig into those for good measure, but it sounds like I should expect reasonable life without much concern.
[07:11] <Shmam> lotuspsychje: ok that one has the same issue, stuck on started sddm
[07:13] <lotuspsychje_> sorry dc
[07:13] <lotuspsychje_> !info preload | eden_ also usefull
[07:14] <lotuspsychje_> eden_: what brand of ssd do you have?
[07:15] <eden_> Not sure I have a relatively new flex 15 512gb ssd... its not an... easy laptop to open up.
[07:15] <lotuspsychje_> eden_: you can see the brand from a terminal
[07:15] <eden_> lenovo that is
[07:15] <eden_> interesting looking for that command now
[07:15] <lotuspsychje_> eden_: install inxi, then inxi -F
[07:17] <eden_> vendor: SK Hynix model: HFS512GD9TNG-62A0A
[07:17] <eden_> what the.
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> eden_: ok, check their website if your device firmware is up to date
[07:17] <eden_> looks like a dam cheap ssd, lol
[07:17] <Shmam> so how bout that sddm eyyy
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> eden_: either then that recent ssd brands cant easyly break these days, its the ammount of data flowing tru that influences the lifetime
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: did you see my last advice?
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> Shmam:  Shmam: allrighty, try to get networking going on a rootshell, then sudo apt purge sddm kubuntu-desktop and reinstall right after
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: after reinstall, restart sddm with systemctl
[07:20] <Shmam> rootshell on -42?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: sure
[07:21] <Shmam> I cant get networking working though
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: you got cable?
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: we need networking to be able to reinstall packages
[07:22] <Shmam> right, thats why I waited to uninstall haha
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: another option would be, booting a kubuntu 18.04 live and install over existing, and save your /home from there and rescue system this way
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: or, as a test try to !nomodeset into your system
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset
[07:24] <Shmam> hold on, I need to find a usbc dongle :cry:
[07:25] <Shmam> should be able to get ethernet once I find this boi
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: going for a break first, feel free to ask in the channel where you stuck allright
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> other volunteers read along
[07:33] <Shmam> might dc here while I hook up a network switch
[07:39] <Shmam> ok cool networking over ethernet works
[08:10] <zetheroo> I am using Slack in Ubuntu 18.04 and there is the option in the preferences 'Launch app on login', however it never has worked. When rebooting the app doesn't launch after login and the setting is no longer enabled.
[08:10] <zetheroo> How would one go about troubleshooting this?
[09:03] <lapion> I am having troubles removing files from a ppa that does not exist anymore
[09:04] <iomari> greetings, what is the default vnc gnome client on 18.04?
[09:32] <Shmam> so my crontab doesnt seem to be working. it just has `@reboot /usr/bin/tilda` which doesnt work
[09:34] <ducasse> Shmam: it won't - cron will not have access to your x session, use an autostart job instead to start it on login
[09:37] <Shmam> that worked ty
[09:38] <ducasse> yw
[10:02] <sfdebug> hi, i think my boot is in "fast boot mode" because i can't enter in BIOS Setup, so, does anyone know how can i disable fast boot in ubuntu?
[10:13] <lapion> how long will the 16.0.4 repositories remain InRelease ?
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> lapion: https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
[10:35] <lapion> 16.04.5 is still supported
[10:36] <markey165> Hi guys, anyone here use remmina?
[10:36] <lapion> lotuspsychje, 16.04.5 is still supported
[10:38] <lapion> how long will the 16.04.5 repositories remain InRelease ?
[10:39] <arndff> Hello. I have a very annoying problem. When I'm about to login, if my keyboard layout isn't English but Bulgarian... and I type my password, ctrl+a shortcut doesn't work. If I switch to English layout, the shortcut works fine.
[10:39] <arndff> Also, in google chrome, if my layout is bulgarian -> I can't use keyboard shortcut: ctrl+[1-9] (to switch tabs). If the layout is english, the shortcuts work fine.
[10:40] <arndff> I have no idea why the shortcuts depend on the layout... Shouldn't be like this IMO. Please help me out to fix it.
[10:40] <markey165> I'm fairly new to Linux, and am using Remmina to connect to my windows machines. Works ok, but crashes regularly. I updated it from the Remmina repo but it hasn't fixed the problem. Is there a way i can troubleshoot why its crashing?
[10:47] <prof2004> hi, is ioria in there?
[10:51] <prof2004> I would like to resume the chat we had yesterday night
[10:55] <prof2004> it is my system, ubuntu kernel 4.15.0-42-generic
[10:56] <prof2004> I have now startet with the live system from USB and get the system hang up with error messages
[10:58] <prof2004> somebody else, who can help me?
[11:03] <MJCD> where in ubuntu 18 do you set the default browser?
[11:04] <sebsebseb> hi
[11:06] <diskin> MJCD, click on the top-right panel, click last like (your user name) and choose "Account settings"
[11:06] <arndff> Ubuntu 18.04 non-latin shortcuts sometimes don't work. Help me, please.
[11:07] <MJCD> diskin, thanks heaps
[11:07] <MJCD> <3
[11:08] <arndff> @diskin, can you help me?
[11:08] <diskin> arndff, not sure yet :)
[11:09] <arndff> Okay...
[11:10] <sbraz> hello, i'm migrating a server from i386 to amd64 following https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading and i'm running into a problem with dpkg --set-selections, for instance echo "nagios-nrpe-plugin:amd64 install" | dpkg --set-selections fails
[11:11] <sbraz> whereas apt install nagios-nrpe-plugin works correctly and replaces the i386 pkg with the amd65 one
[11:35] <rory> I have a script that references some file ~/foo
[11:35] <rory> If I am root, and I run this script as a user using "sudo -u username my_script.sh" it is still getting evaluated as /root/ instead of the user's home directory
[11:35] <rory> how can I get it to work as the user I am sudoing as?
[11:39] <rory> OK I found -H option to sudo, thanks rory
[12:39] <arndff> Hello. I have a problem with non-latin keyboard shortcuts with some applications. Can you help me?
[12:40] <arndff> Can't try this solution: https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/ubuntu/java-non-latin-shortcuts as the repo has already been deleted.
[12:40] <arndff> Looking forward for some suggestions because this is really annoying!
[12:43] <platzhirsch> I got really confused when I saw that /etc/resolv.conf kept pointing to 127.0.0.1, it's only later I learned systemd-resolved is setting up a local DNS server, but this one has troubles resolving the DNS connection, never seems to correctly set it when connecting to WiFi
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:51] <kreyren> https://pastebin.com/Ui1nT9Uv how do you resolve this on ubuntu
[12:52] <ioria> kreyren, are you on wayland ?
[12:53] <kreyren> ioria: i think so
[12:53] <kreyren> should i switch on X ?
[12:54] <ioria> kreyren, echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
[12:54] <kreyren> ioria: wayland
[12:54] <ioria> kreyren, what uubntu version ? 18.04 or 17.10
[12:54] <kreyren> 18.10
[12:54] <kreyren> fresh update from 16.04 and 18.04
[12:55] <ioria> kreyren, you 'could' use root gui appon wayland (sudo xhost si:localuser:root) but probably better use Xorg session
[12:55] <kreyren> ok switching on X thanks for info
[12:56] <ioria> np
[13:13] <Aliekezhi> hi, how can I do multiple ssh in one command ? for example, ssh foo, then from foo : ssh bar, but in one single command ?
[13:13] <Aliekezhi> (i tried with ssh foo -C 'ssh bar' without success )
[13:15] <hyperlumic> A more specific example would help.
[13:15] <Aliekezhi> hyperlumic, you want to ssh@myserver1
[13:16] <Aliekezhi> from my server1, you want to ssh to myserver2
[13:16] <Aliekezhi> hyperlumic, how can you do that from one single command ?
[13:16] <hyperlumic> Interactively, or what?
[13:17] <hyperlumic> I get that you're trying to chain SSH sessions, but what is the actual command you're trying to run on server 2?
[13:17] <Aliekezhi> hyperlumic, nothing, I just want to get there without having to do ssh 2 times, but having a preconfigured command in my terminal profile to get there :)
[13:18] <hyperlumic> Not going to work.
[13:18] <geirha> Aliekezhi: you can use ProxyCommand in a host entry in .ssh/config
[13:18] <hyperlumic> ssh user@host somecommand assumes that the command isn't interactive.
[13:18] <ioria> sounds a local/remote  port forwarding
[13:19] <Aliekezhi> hyperlumic, well with ssh myserver1 -C "ssh myserv2" I get an error
[13:19] <hyperlumic> That's my point.
[13:19] <hyperlumic> Though the error would help.
[13:20] <Aliekezhi> "mesg: ttyname failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device"
[13:20] <hyperlumic> As expected.
[13:20] <hyperlumic> You're not going to be able to start an interactive ssh session on server 2 that way.
[13:21] <geirha> Aliekezhi: With an entry like this in ~/.ssh/config: http://ix.io/1vnl   running  ssh bar   will ssh to bar.example.com via foo.example.com
[13:22] <hyperlumic> Using netcat?
[13:22] <hyperlumic> That's secure. </sarcasm>
[13:52] <gst568923> hi guys I have this simple script https://pastebin.com/zMu7vz4q and I would like substitute for cycle with a command 'find' to search inside root folder recursively
[13:52] <gst568923> I have write this, but is wrong: find . -type f -name *.txt -exec mv -n "$(date -r "$filename" +"%Y-%m-%d_$filename")" '{}' \;
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: maybe something for ##linux or #bash ?
[14:04] <JimBuntu> gst568923, I got it this far for you... need to remove the path information for the last use of the {}...      find . -type f -iname "*.txt" -exec sh -c 'cp {} "$(date -r {} +"%Y-%m-%d_{}")"' \;
[14:05] <JimBuntu> gst568923, I was using cp instead of mv to see if it worked, you'll want to swap that once you complete the final one
[14:05] <gst568923> JimBuntu not work
[14:06] <JimBuntu> right, because you "need to remove the path information for the last use of the {}"
[14:10] <geirha> ouch, don't inject the filename into sh. find will *not* sanitize it. Pass it as argument instead.  -exec sh -c 'cp "$1" ...' sh {} \;
[14:15] <radkos> hello
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> welcome radkos
[14:17] <radkos> how can i generate moderated iops on my hdd
[14:17] <radkos> lets say i want to make 10% per process, and if i start three similar processes simultaneously i can get 30%
[14:19] <radkos> whatever bash script i made hdd cache comes across and @$!>?!#
[14:20] <radkos> any idea haw can i make this process constant going around the hdd caching . some kind of /dev/urandom magic or else?
[14:29] <hans_henrik> iirc there is a meta-package that installs whatever-version-of-gcc-used-to-compile-the-current-kernel, any idea what it was called?
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> hans_henrik: share to the channel whats your end goal, volunteers might be able to think along
[14:34] <leftyfb> hans_henrik: build-essential ?
[14:34] <hggdh> ^
[14:38] <asdfgh> hello
[14:39] <asdfgh> anyone know a good application to store passwords ?
[14:39] <Cheez> I use keepassxc on all platforms
[14:40] <hans_henrik> im trying to add some patches to the kernel.   the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel recommends getting the kernel sources with `apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)` - but it doesn't say anything about where the source is located, apparently.
[14:40] <roadmr> asdfgh: if you're ok with something remote, I've been happy with lastpass
[14:40] <hans_henrik> where is the source located after running apt-get source?
[14:41] <teward> hans_henrik: whatever directory you were in
[14:41] <teward> so if you were in /tmp/ it'd download the files and unzip to folders within /tmp./
[14:41] <teward> hans_henrik: type pwd
[14:41] <teward> it'll give you a file directory path, if you didn't change dirs after you rant he command it's in that directory
[14:41] <teward> ran the apt-get source command*
[14:42] <Cheez> teward: the directory where you ran it
[14:42] <Cheez> apt doesn't track source, it just downloads it to wherever you run the command
[14:42] <teward> Cheez: you mean to tell that to hans_henrik not me :P
[14:42] <teward> ^ that
[14:42] <Cheez> sorry
[14:42] <teward> which is what i said
[14:42] <hans_henrik> oh lel, nvm. thanks
[14:45] <hans_henrik> uhm, > Picking 'linux-signed' as source package instead of 'linux-image-4.15.0-42-generic'
[14:45] <hans_henrik> and the download went way too fast
[14:46] <hans_henrik> somehow `apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)`   doesn't get me the kernel source, i think.
[14:50] <leftyfb> hans_henrik: apt-get source linux
[14:51] <leftyfb> though, that won't get the current version. Not sure
[14:51] <hans_henrik> leftyfb: looks like it worked
[14:51] <leftyfb> hans_henrik: That will download only the GA kernel I think
[14:52] <hans_henrik> GA? i'm not using a HWE kernel anyway
[14:52] <hans_henrik> what's GA?
[14:53] <leftyfb> The kernel that got released when your version of ubuntu was released
[14:53] <hans_henrik> anyway, i'm running 4.15.0-42-generic , and "apt-get source linux" is downloading "4.15.0-42.45", so it can't be that far off
[14:53] <hans_henrik> #1 is according to uname -a
[14:54] <leftyfb> which version of ubuntu are you running?
[14:54] <hans_henrik> VERSION="18.04.1 LTS (Bionic Beaver)"
[14:56] <leftyfb> hans_henrik: why do you think you need to compile your own kernel?
[14:57] <hans_henrik> leftyfb: because an aircrack-ng tutorial is telling me to install this patch https://git.kali.org/gitweb/?p=packages/linux.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/patches/features/all/kali-wifi-injection.patch;hb=refs/heads/kali/master  in my kernel
[14:58]  * leftyfb sigh
[14:58] <hans_henrik> ( this 1 to be specific  https://www.aircrack-ng.org/~~V:/doku.php?id=install_drivers )
[14:58] <hans_henrik> supposedly enables raw monitor mode for wifi drivers
[15:02] <leftyfb> hans_henrik: sudo iw list|grep -A10 "Supported interface"
[15:02] <leftyfb> if you see "monitor" in the list, then you are able to put your wifi card into promiscuous mode. No kernel compiling needed
[15:02] <hans_henrik> leftyfb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6dMpNcPwCN/
[15:03] <hans_henrik> i do see monitor mode there
[15:03] <leftyfb> hans_henrik: what is your end goal here?
[15:04] <hans_henrik> leftyfb: record someone signing in to a WPA2-PSK encrypted wifi network, so i can run an offline dictionary attack on the WPA2 password?
[15:04] <leftyfb> hans_henrik: why?
[15:05] <hans_henrik> leftyfb: sorry, i don't want to discuss why i'm doing this.
[15:06] <leftyfb> hans_henrik: then you should not be asking for help with it here. We do not condone such activities. Please stop what you are doing.
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> hans_henrik: there's a ##kernel channel if you need
[15:08] <hans_henrik> i won't ask for help with WPA2 here, i merely wanted help with getting the kernel source.
[15:08] <leftyfb> hans_henrik: you will no longer receive help me from after knowing your intentions are malicious in nature. I'm sure others here will also cease to assist you in your goals for the same reason
[15:09] <leftyfb> "help from me"
[15:09] <hans_henrik> right, feel free to /ignore
[15:11] <leftyfb> hans_henrik: I'll be sure to also point out your intentions to anyone assisting you. To make sure they know they are contributing to malicious activities.
[15:18] <hans_henrik> for the record, secrecy does not imply malice.
[15:18] <leftyfb> hans_henrik: yup
[15:20] <hyperlumic> hans_henrik: If you aren't willing to divulge your reasoning behind something that is otherwise quite possibly illegal without the consent of the monitored party, do not expect a positive response.
[15:25] <hans_henrik> i'm not doing anything illegal, and the monitored party is my own phone.
[15:27] <lordcirth> hans_henrik, then 1) you should have said that instead of "someone" and 2) Why?
[16:17] <perplexity> anyone running ubuntu on a dell 17 7000?
[16:18] <leftyfb> perplexity: that isn't your question
[16:18] <leftyfb> perplexity: what can we help you with?
[16:19] <perplexity> leftyfb: surely it is. im having difficulty install debian on my new laptop as the firmware for my network card is not in any existing deb release. so im wondering if anyone has had success installing ubuntu on it
[16:19] <leftyfb> perplexity: try it
[16:19] <leftyfb> perplexity: try booting a live cd/sub
[16:19] <leftyfb> usb*
[16:19] <perplexity> leftyfb: good answer
[16:19] <perplexity> your right, will do
[16:36] <Dave_Elec> Hey everyone... I did do-release-upgrade from bionic to cosmic and it got an error setting up udev... and crashed and I removed the udev post instalation script and it tried to configure the rest of the packages... and i got a lot of errors... then i dpkg --configured them all and autoremoved un-necessary packages... now when i login i get profile permission errors and preety unstable distro.. what shall I do?
[16:37] <Dave_Elec> It's really messed up
[16:38] <pragmaticenigma> Dave_Elec: Restore your backup, make sure you do not have any third party PPAs enabled when you try again
[16:47] <Dave_Elec> pragmaticenigma: I didn't make one
[16:47] <pragmaticenigma> uhm... that's a tough one then
[16:47] <Dave_Elec> :(
[16:48] <leftyfb> Dave_Elec: make a backup of your files you have on the machine now using a live usb. Then install 18.04 from scratch
[16:48] <leftyfb> Dave_Elec: I wouldn't recommend going with 18.10. Stick with 18.04
[16:48] <leftyfb> But that's just my opinion
[16:49] <leftyfb> or install 18.10 from scratch if that's what you really want
[16:53] <Dave_Elec> So no going back?
[16:53] <leftyfb> Dave_Elec: it's not worth the time it would take
[16:54] <hc027> Hey there. I am in Grub Rescue on a Latin American keyboard, and I can't make an equals sign
[16:55] <hc027> like, it puts keys as though Im on a US keyboard
[16:55] <hc027> so shift 9 is open parens instead of close
[16:55] <hc027> but I cant do equals sign
[16:55] <roadmr> hc027: the equal sign is 2 keys to the right of 0
[16:56] <roadmr> hc027: no shift needed
[16:56] <roadmr> hc027: if you have access to a browser, google "us keyboard layout", that should show you roughly where keys are
[16:57] <hc027> THANK YOU roadmr!!!!
[16:58] <hc027> THANKS!
[16:58] <roadmr> \o/
[17:16] <awer> hi, how do i make this sime bash script run/refresh on the same line "while true; do date; sleep 1; done"
[17:17] <awer> fixed now
[17:28] <nacc> for reference to anyone else. Don't reinvent wheels. use `watch` for the above.
[17:35] <leftyfb> also, tty-clock? :)
[17:35] <Bluefoxicy> anyone having trouble with libnss-winbind in 18.04?
[17:35] <Bluefoxicy> like wbinfo -u shows users, but getent passwd or id fails?
[17:38] <nacc> leftyfb: lol, yeah, i wasn't even looking at the command they were running
[17:39] <Bluefoxicy> o
[17:39] <Bluefoxicy> it looks like 18.04 is moving to lsass for linux
[17:43] <ntd> so, i've got this device with a touchscreen. autorotate doesn't work on bionic but does works on debian testing. looking through logs i can only see modeset changes in syslog
[17:43] <ntd> any way to hunt down the missing package/wrong config?
[17:45] <nacc> ntd: did you enable rotate (it's an icon in the logout menu, iirc, in gnome)
[17:45] <ntd> the button/icon doesn't even show
[17:46] <ntd> on bionic. both button/icon and autorotate present and accounted for on deb :)
[17:46] <ntd> i can manually rotate through settings->devices->display though
[17:47] <tgm4883> ntd: do you have iio-sensor-proxy installed
[17:47] <nacc> ntd: that's unrelated to the accelerometer being detected and functional
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> ntd: last user i talked for a touchscreen had a hard time on gnome, more luck on unity for touch support
[17:47] <nacc> lotuspsychje: it's always been the exact opposite for me :)
[17:47] <ntd> iio-sensor-proxy present
[17:49] <tgm4883> ntd: if you run 'monitor-sensor' and rotate your tablet do you see indications that it knows it's being rotated?
[17:49] <ntd> checking
[17:50] <nacc> ntd: also, is iio-sensor-proxy running?
[17:50] <ntd> working on deb, rebooting
[17:50] <tgm4883> nacc: good question
[17:51] <nacc> i just noticed on both of my 18.04 systems (where rotation was working last week) it's not running and the systemd unit is dead
[17:51] <tgm4883> Might help to know what device it is too
[17:52] <ntd> "waiting for iio-sensor-proxy to appear"
[17:52] <ntd> :)
[17:52] <spacecrab> so debian has devuan, is there something similar for ubuntu?
[17:52] <spacecrab> i prefer the comforts of ubuntu and supportability over debian
[17:53] <ntd> "systemctl start iio-sensor-proxy", still nothing
[17:53] <tgm4883> spacecrab: might help to know what devuan is
[17:53] <spacecrab> basically debian distro w/o systemd
[17:53] <tgm4883> I'm doubtful there is one
[17:53] <tgm4883> at least, not one that I'd want to use
[17:54] <spacecrab> dang. i'll do some research on my own and share back if i find anything worthwhile/well structured
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | spacecrab
[17:54] <nacc> ntd: did it actually start for you?
[17:54] <ntd> journalctl -xe: call to iio-sensor-proxy failed, "the name was not provided by any .service files"
[17:54] <ntd> nope
[17:54] <spacecrab> i understand systemd well and have been architecting automated stuffs with it for a long time
[17:54] <nacc> ntd: right, i'm loooking at that too
[17:54] <ntd> shows in systemctl list-unit-files though
[17:54] <spacecrab> but i am philosophically against it is all
[17:54] <tgm4883> ntd: what device?
[17:55] <spacecrab> so personally id like to remove my usage
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> spacecrab: read the transition part in the wiki
[17:55] <spacecrab> will do. i was a little thrown off by how it says going from upstart to systemd
[17:55] <ntd> device unknown. has some corp branding, dunno what it actually is :)
[17:55] <nacc> spacecrab: ok, then don't use ubuntu, i'd say (systemd is the only supported option)
[17:55] <ntd> logs outputs are all eerily generic
[17:56] <tgm4883> ntd: what tablet?
[17:56] <spacecrab> right, my hopes were the inverse. using an ubuntu without systemd, like how devuan is to debian
[17:56] <spacecrab> but thanks for your input pplz- i'll share if i find anything interesting
[17:56] <nacc> spacecrab: yes, we understood. That's not a supported option.
[17:56] <ntd> trusty+upstart
[17:56] <spacecrab> ^considered that, but it's pretty old now-a-days
[17:57] <ntd> pay for extended support
[17:57] <ntd> :P
[17:57] <spacecrab> hehehe
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> its still supported and esm yeah
[17:57] <spacecrab> i do know a friend at canonical, time to pull strings!
[17:57] <spacecrab> :laugh:
[17:58] <spacecrab> i guess i could just use devuan, i just am not as big of a fan of debian
[17:59] <spacecrab> it never feels "as good" or as well supported
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> spacecrab: come to #ubuntu-discuss
[17:59] <spacecrab> oh, sorry. sure
[18:00] <ntd> running iio-sensor-proxy manually does nothing
[18:01] <nacc> ntd: it doesn't run even manually here
[18:02] <ntd> https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/5/31/3
[18:02] <ntd> https://github.com/hadess/iio-sensor-proxy/issues/71
[18:04] <halvard> How can I scan a specific online IP range? I've tried nmap, but the commands I have found just scans a few
[18:04] <nacc> ntd: does the udevadm command from the gh issue show any devices for you?
[18:04] <halvard> (not locally)
[18:04] <nacc> ntd: or this one: `G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all iio-sensor-proxy
[18:04] <nacc> ** (process:27950): DEBUG: 12:04:40.403: Could not find any supported sensors
[18:05] <nacc> err, just taht first line sorry
[18:05] <ntd> udevadm info --export-db | grep -C 3 iio <- no outout
[18:05] <ntd> trying
[18:06] <nacc> ntd: fyi, this did work ... last week. So it's new that it's failling. I'm going to reboot this machine to test something
[18:07] <ntd> i've been trying to get this working since week 47
[18:08] <ntd> G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all iio-sensor-proxy: ** (process:1234): DEBUG: XX:XX:XX.XXX: Could not find any supported sensors
[18:08] <nacc> ntd: yeah, so it's a kernel issue
[18:08] <nacc> ntd: i'm checking some stuff
[18:09] <ntd> [] acer_wmi: Acer Laptop ACPI-WMI Extras
[18:09] <ntd> [] acer_wmi: Unsupported machine has AMW0_GUID1, unable to load
[18:09] <ntd> def not an acer. also mentioned in that gh issue
[18:10] <ntd> trying to boot bionic with deb kernel 4.9
[18:13] <ntd> doh. /lib/modules won
[18:13] <ntd> doh. /lib/modules won't check out :)
[18:14] <ntd> anyway. wasn't working on 4.15.0-39 and isn't working on -42
[18:18] <nacc> ntd: do you have a /sys/bus/iio directory?
[18:18] <nacc> ntd: and, can you reboot back to debian and see if that is present there, if it's not in ubuntu?
[18:19] <ntd> it was there on deb
[18:19] <ntd> rebooting now
[18:19] <nacc> ntd: interesting, i think that's the bug, but i'm not sure
[18:21] <nacc> ntd: LP: #1792813 may be relevant
[18:21] <ntd> no /sys/bus/iio
[18:24] <nacc> ntd: yeah that's the issue
[18:24] <nacc> would need to go back in the kernels to debug it, i know it did work
[18:29] <ntd> dmesg | grep -i sens: hid-sensor-hub XXXXXXX: item XXXX parsing failed, hid-sensor-hub XXXX: parse failed, hid-sensor-hub: probe of XXXXX failed with error -22
[18:30] <ntd> lshw | grep -i sens: nothing
[18:35] <sirality> hello. i have a script that runs a command and uses xclip to put it on the clipboard and it works fine. i'd like to use it as a keyboard shortcut, and when i do, it does run, but it doesn't affect the clipboard. is there a workaround for this?
[18:37] <nacc> ntd: i just tested (am currently in) 4.19 and also doesn't work. I filed LP: #1807250
[18:37] <nacc> ntd: what kernel is your debian machine on?
[18:37] <ntd> 4.18... something. lemme check
[18:37] <nacc> ntd: and in debian, can you check `lsmod | grep iio` ?
[18:38] <holonium> Hello
[18:40] <holonium> I was wondering if I could get some help setting up virtualbox on Ubuntu 18.10, I have been receiving a large number of Qt errors.
[18:40] <ntd> 4.18.20
[18:40] <nacc> ntd: ok
[18:40] <ntd> hid_sensor_iio_common    16384  7 hid_sensor_gyro_3d,hid_sensor_trigger,hid_sensor_incl_3d,hid_sensor_als,hid_sensor_accel_3d,hid_sensor_magn_3d,hid_sensor_rotation
[18:40] <ntd> hid_sensor_hub         20480  9 hid_sensor_gyro_3d,hid_sensor_trigger,hid_sensor_iio_common,hid_sensor_incl_3d,hid_sensor_als,hid_sensor_accel_3d,hid_sensor_magn_3d,hid_sensor_rotation,hid_sensor_custom
[18:41] <nacc> ntd: and on ubuntu, i assume it comes back empty?
[18:41] <holonium> What are you guys talking about?
[18:41] <ntd> yup
[18:42] <ntd> this also affects sleep and stuff
[18:42] <nacc> ntd: ok, modprobing those modules on my system, /sys/bus/iio shows up
[18:43] <nacc> ntd: i'm still debugging
[18:45] <ntd> iio shows up
[18:46] <nacc> ntd: here udev still doesn't see any devices
[18:47] <ntd> not here either. nothing in dmesg, rotate not working
[18:48] <nacc> and yeah, /sys/bus/iio/devices is empty
[18:48] <nacc> i'm guessing on debian it's not? :)
[18:48] <ntd> mhm
[18:49] <ntd> the acer wmi stuff also present on deb, prolly irrelevant
[18:50] <TJ-> nacc: have you lost some IIO devices?
[18:50] <nacc> TJ-: yeah
[18:50] <nacc> TJ-: apparently :)
[18:51] <ntd> TJ-, appears to be another case of futuristic stuff being tacked onto old kernels :)
[18:51] <TJ-> Some present over ACPI/i2c without a specific driver
[18:51] <nacc> TJ-: it's almost certainly a regression, I'm trying to figure out where :)
[18:52] <nacc> TJ-: well, i'm pretty sure it's wrong for there to be no /sys/bus/iio at all
[18:53] <ntd> TJ-, you still have the opinion that 4.4.0->34 being "incompatible" with amdgpu-pro because of something from 4.8 being tacked onto ubuntu kernel 4.4 is AMDs fault?
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> ntd: can you try hibernate and come back as a test?
[18:55] <Dave_Elec> how can I create "shared to other computers" local network without using NetworkManager?
[18:57] <ntd> systemctl hibernate, Failed to hibernate system via logind: Sleep verb not supported
[18:57] <ntd> suspend did work
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> ntd: some fedora but mentioned it back working after hibernate
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> bug
[19:01] <kreyren> Why is not vulkan with preference for AMDGPU not installed/set by default if amd gpu is detected?
[19:02] <OerHeks> maybe you need to install mesa-vulkan-drivers too ?
[19:02] <OerHeks> !info mesa-vulkan-drivers
[19:03] <kreyren> yep those needs to be installed, but i'm asking to why are they not included by default? (thinking about making a bug report)
[19:03] <kreyren> Since ubuntu is made to work OutOfTheBox..
[19:07] <ntd> nacc, brand of your device?
[19:10] <Dave_Elec> can I use pppd with NeteorkManager service running?
[19:10] <Dave_Elec> It seems like when I start the service pppd stops to work
[19:10] <Dave_Elec> I think NetworkManager is stealing it from pppd
[19:11] <q9> Hi, everytime on gnome when my screen blanks, my audio gets turned off. How do I make the audio surviving the screen blanking?
[19:24] <f3bruary> I dun goofed up my graphics. I added ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers , updated and it broke my graphics (Intel integrated). I tried restoring using ppa-purge but it didn't help. Right now my monitor seems to cycle through the last 3 frames over and over.
[19:32] <xamithan> !nomodeset | f3bruary
[19:34] <nacc> ntd: i have two, yoga 900 and a t470s
[19:34] <nacc> ntd: (lenovo both, that is)
[19:41] <f3bruary> xamithan: I was able to fix it just now. I had to remove "CLUTTER_PAINT=disable-clipped-redraws:disable-culling" from my /etc/environment. I added it to try and get rid of cursor trails
[19:42] <phox_> hi! I seem to have muted the left side of my speakers. How do i unmute? In the settings menu all settings are normal, the slider is in the middle
[19:42] <xamithan> heh,  well you never mentioned that
[19:42] <ntd> on debian all the iio devices are i2c under the hood
[19:42] <ntd> in /sys/bus/i2c there are some differences
[19:43] <f3bruary> xamithan: I know. I added that line right before I added the ppa and rebooted. I assumed it was the ppa that broke my gfx.
[19:43] <f3bruary> xamithan: thanks anyways ;)
[19:44] <ntd> nacc, /sys/class/devices. on bionic is have a 2-002c -> ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.3/i2c-2/2-002c (the smbus controller)
[19:44] <ntd> it's not there on deb
[19:46] <ntd>  /sys/bus/i2c/devices even
[19:52] <nacc> ntd: any difference between the two in `lsmod | grep i2c` ?
[19:53] <ntd> nopr
[19:53] <ntd> nope
[19:53] <nacc> ntd: hrm
[19:53] <nacc> so it's possibly a detection issue
[20:02] <ntd> note: it is present in bus/i2c on *bionic* (iio not working), missing on deb (iio working)
[20:24] <ntd> nacc, you have "hid-sensor-hub 1:2:3:4: parse: failed" in dmesg?
[20:44] <calamari> Is there a minimal installation for Ubuntu, similar to what I'd get if I used debootstrap (no gui, etc)?
[20:44] <ntd> -server?
[20:46] <calamari> hoping for something like the Debian installer, where I don't have to select a gui, or other utilities if I don't want to
[20:47] <ioria> !mini
[20:47] <EDinNY> It's been a long time since I manually used fdisk.  Are Extended Partitions still a thing?
[20:47] <calamari> I'll try that, thanks
[20:50] <ryuo> EDinNY: only for dos/mbr labels. gpt doesn't need that hack.
[21:02] <calamari> the mini iso does not appear to allow me to select
[21:03] <calamari> oops didn't mean to send that, thought I deleted it
[21:05] <patx> hello if my laptop becomes disconnect to the internet it freezes, and if it cant find a network to connect to it during start up at login it also freezes. what can i do to troubleshoot this problem?
[21:05] <calamari> although it didn't have a package select, it gave a minimal system so I'm happy.. thanks :)
[21:32] <yetAnotherHuman> What would you guys recommend as a pastebin type tool?
[21:32] <slidinghorn> yetAnotherHuman, pastebinit comes auto-installed
[21:35] <BlueGriffin> slidinghorn, is this used simply to hold text ?
[21:36] <slidinghorn> BlueGriffin, yes...it's essentially something primarily used to pipe the output of a command into a pastebin, and it returns a URL for you to access it
[21:37] <Towser> hi guys, I'm having problems installing Avast on Ubuntu, can anyone help?
[21:39] <spacecrab> w-why would you wanna do that
[21:39] <leftyfb> Towser: don't
[21:39] <leftyfb> Towser: you do not need it. The only thing it will do for you is take resources
[21:39] <Towser> well, I do need an anti varus
[21:39] <leftyfb> Towser: no, you don't
[21:39] <Towser> virus*
[21:39] <spacecrab> @leftyfb: and increase your attack vector... hilariously enough
[21:40] <leftyfb> spacecrab: not likely, especially if it's running in wine
[21:40] <spacecrab> nah they have a native linux something-or-other
[21:40] <leftyfb> Towser: It is VERY unlikely you will ever come across a virus that will function on your machine, especially one that Avast would prevent
[21:41] <spacecrab> either way though, anything needing enough access to do "security" stuff is gonna increase your attack vector due to the access it has during runtime
[21:41] <spacecrab> i digress, and agree with leftyfb, dont do it
[21:41] <Towser> is there a better anit virus?
[21:41] <leftyfb> Towser: you do not need one
[21:42] <spacecrab> adblocker, and if you want to be paranoid: use noscript
[21:42] <spacecrab> dont install packages from unknown sources, same w/PPAs, etc
[21:42] <slidinghorn> Towser, while they're not particularly needed, take a look at clamav for a linux antivirus.  Like others have said though, you're very unlikely to need one unless you're careless
[21:42] <spacecrab> ^+1 for ClamAV if you _must_
[21:42] <spacecrab> otherwise you can screen individual files with services like virustotal.com
[21:43] <leftyfb> clamav is useless. I'd challenge anyone to go find a virus that you could come across easily that clamav will prevent .... in under an hour.
[21:43] <leftyfb> Towser: why do you think you need an antivirus?
[21:44] <Towser> leftyfb,  because I think my ubuntu got a virus
[21:44] <leftyfb> Towser: it didn't
[21:44] <leftyfb> Towser: why do you think that?
[21:45] <Towser> leftyfb, something keeps popping up asking me to call a number, it's not the internet either
[21:45] <leftyfb> Towser: ok, is one of the popups running right now?
[21:46] <Towser> leftyfb, no, it's random
[21:46] <leftyfb> Towser: close your "internet". Then open a terminal and type: ps -ef |egrep "chrom|firefox"
[21:48] <happyhobo> Can I get help with KDE Neon here?
[21:48] <leftyfb> !ask | happyhobo
[21:48] <tgm4883> Towser: it would be helpful to see a screenshot of this popup
[21:49] <tgm4883> !neon | happyhobo
[21:49] <happyhobo> OK, KDE Neon is kubuntu stripped but it's not an official flavor, does that mean I'm out of luck?
[21:49] <leftyfb> tgm4883: I guarantee you it's a browser window. He's probably got chrome running in the background and some extension installed because they clicked on something they shouldn't have
[21:49] <happyhobo> Gee.
[21:50] <leftyfb> nobody is writing viruses for linux distributions, especially ones that pop up a window to call a numner
[21:50] <leftyfb> number*
[21:51] <leftyfb> Towser: would you like help troubleshooting the issue?
[21:53] <spacecrab> @leftyfb could be a bad browser extension
[21:53] <spacecrab> thats a relatively common problem cross-platform...
[21:55] <tgm4883> spacecrab: there's a lot of things that it could be, but without additional information we're probably at a stopping point
[21:55] <spacecrab> agreed
[21:55] <qwebirc95665> Hello, i rsynced my phone to my pc and have a iron lock and a iron X on it. what does this X mean?
[21:56] <leftyfb> qwebirc95665: what kind of phone? How did you "sync" it?
[21:57] <qwebirc95665> android phone with the app myRSync, the symbols are on the synced folder and subfolder
[21:58] <leftyfb> qwebirc95665: read-only/no permission
[21:58] <leftyfb> they probably got written as root
[21:59] <qwebirc95665> that could be, the secound folder of the SC-card has only the lock and i need there a passwort as well
[22:02] <qwebirc95665> https://postimg.cc/0M0cXppW
[22:04] <Towser> leftyfb, yeah
[22:04] <lordcirth> qwebirc95665, you can right-click and view properties to see permissions.  Or ls -l in a terminal.
[22:06] <okamis> Hello, How do I change permanently my X11 keyboard layout? Using "setxkbmap se dvorak_a5" works for the current session. I tried in xinitrc but it resets as soon as i login as my user. I tried xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard. And I tried localectl
[22:07] <qwebirc95665> thx @ lordcirth, leftyfb
[22:08] <slidinghorn> Asked this in -mate a few hours ago, but no answer yet:  What can I do when my menu doesn't match what it shows in mozo?  Is there just a config file somewhere that I can maintain instead?  (current issue:  Steam shows under "games" in mozo, but not in the menu itself)
[22:08] <slidinghorn> this is in ubuntu MATE, if it wasn't obvious
[22:21] <slidinghorn> I think I may have figured this out:  Steam was also listed under "internet" - I think MATE took the instance that was mentioned later alphabetically as some kind of override, and only "wants" to put it in one place.
[22:22] <Towser> leftyfb, i'm here
[22:34] <seerosengiesser> Hello, I am using Kubuntu 18.10, and I am trying to install the package latte-dock. That does not work unfortunately, it says the package has unmet dependencies. Here is the exact message: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jphsJByJWn/
[22:40] <slidinghorn> seerosengiesser, how exactly are you trying to install it?
[22:45] <calamari> seerosengiesser: you might also try: sudo apt-get update
[22:48] <seerosengiesser> Oh, stupid mistake by me. It installed now, thanks. :D
[22:57] <calamari> happens to all of us :)
[23:05] <slingamn> i'm trying to add a PPA according to the instructions here: https://launchpad.net/+help-soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html
[23:05] <slingamn> however i was not asked to confirm a gpg fingerprint
[23:06] <slingamn> a new keyring appears to have been added to /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
[23:07] <slingamn> is this expected? it seems like i typed `apt-add-repository ppa:bar/baz` and it just silently imported an untrusted key
[23:20] <mindofmateo> Hello.  Is there any way to schedule a system shutdown even if it is asleep?  I have tried searching, but I only find questions about how to schedule shutdown or sleep in general, not to ensure that a shutdown occurs at a specific time even if the system is asleep.
[23:23] <slingamn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine#Adding_Launchpad_PPA_Repositories it sounds like this is the expected functionality of add-apt-repository
[23:30] <imi> hi
[23:32] <imi> despite having a registered username, and despite hexchat being configured to auto identify me, I always end up in #ubuntu-unregged. Is there anything I can do to avoid this?
[23:33] <slidinghorn> imi, I'm assuming that hexchat autojoins before the identify process is complete.  I haven't looked to see if it's possible, but maybe have a delay on the auto-join?
[23:36] <imi> slidinghorn: funny sidenote, I'm using ubuntu 17.10 and hexchat 2.12.4 as shipped by ubuntu 17.10 (18.04 and 18.10 have a bug which basically makes my machine practically unusable)
[23:37] <ntd> nacc?
[23:37] <ntd> TJ?
[23:37] <imi> can't you just make identity check delayed by something like 10 seconds? or delayed indefinitely with the constraint that unregged users don't get voice?
[23:48] <hggdh> imi: you can look at SASL for login. There is nothing we can do, channel-level
[23:54] <imi> hggdh: ok I'll check sasl
[23:55] <imi> ok, I'm restarting hexchat to test my new setting
[23:56] <imi> re
[23:56] <imi> seems to be working