[02:34] <_marshy> hey guys
[02:34] <_marshy> anyone around?
[11:57] <David_M> Does this system support snaps and flatpaks? Can I use latest XFCE?
[12:18] <brainwash> David_M: both systems are available, but Xfce is not packaged this way
[12:20] <brainwash> David_M: for latest packages you can use the Xubuntu PPAs https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev
[12:22] <David_M> Why are window control buttons so small?
[12:57] <knome> huh, on my 18.04 after the last updates xfsettinds went somehow crazy and created a loop that hogged down all of my resources
[12:57] <al3xprey> how can I add notification badges to docky?
[12:57] <al3xprey> if they are not present natively
[12:57] <knome> ochosi, was that known?
[12:59] <al3xprey> hey
[12:59] <knome> hello.
[12:59] <al3xprey> what's up
[13:00] <knome> well, see above, or for non-support-related chat, #xubuntu-offtopic
[13:01] <al3xprey> how about my docky question?
[13:01] <knome> i don't use docky, so i have no idea, sorry
[13:02] <al3xprey> :(
[13:02] <knome> since it's not shipped by default on xubuntu, it might mean this is the case for majority of people here
[13:02] <al3xprey> ok then, the default xubuntu dock does not include notification badges either
[13:02] <al3xprey> if they are not natively supported
[13:02] <al3xprey> how can this be added to the dock
[13:03] <knome> witty, but i don't know that either.
[13:03] <diogenes_> al3xprey, try cairo-dock instead
[13:04] <al3xprey> cairo-dock didn't have the notification support either
[13:04] <al3xprey> awn included
[13:04] <diogenes_> afaik cairo used to have some options about notifications
[13:04] <knome> so since none of the docks you have tried support those notification badges, maybe it's not possible to have them then?
[13:04] <diogenes_> it was long time since i tried it
[13:04] <knome> or is there a dock/panel that supports those (and with which they actually work)?
[13:05] <al3xprey> nah I was wondering if I can ADD them, since for example Thunderbird has notification badges
[13:05] <al3xprey> on either dock
[13:05] <al3xprey> no plugins in thunderbird
[13:05] <al3xprey> it just works
[13:05] <knome> i imagine it would mean you would need to add the code to the software
[13:05] <diogenes_> al3xprey, ask thunderbird devs about their secret trick :)
[13:05] <al3xprey> yes I just wanted to find someone with experience that has done it
[13:06] <al3xprey> since I couldnt find info in the lists
[13:06] <al3xprey> haha, it's some kind of native notification support
[13:06] <knome> if they had done it for $software, then i'm pretty sure that code would be included in them already, and you would have the feature
[13:06] <knome> it would be sane if they didn't share such code.
[13:06] <knome> it would be *insane*
[13:06] <knome> is what i meant...
[13:07] <knome> out of curiosity, which software lacks the notification support?
[13:08] <al3xprey> Messenger, Slack (has a really stupid notification tray icon in linux), Skype, HexChat as I am using it atm
[13:09] <al3xprey> the windows indicate that there is some kind of an event
[13:09] <al3xprey> but the dock icon has no badges
[13:09] <knome> this is indeed something the software developers should take care of
[13:10] <knome> it's also impossible for anybody else to do that if the software is closed source, like i imagine slack, skype and messenger being
[13:11] <al3xprey> not entirely, the messenger app is mostly built on electron
[13:11] <al3xprey> take it as a browser window with only facebook messenger and SOME code
[13:11] <al3xprey> for things like
[13:11] <al3xprey> ***DRUM ROLL****
[13:11] <al3xprey> notifications.
[13:13] <diogenes_> al3xprey, you can create your own app with nativefier and with the argument --tray /path/to/image/png, and tehre you have it
[16:22] <cyborjedi> hi
[16:23] <cyborjedi> guys
[16:33] <diogenes_> hi