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BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:00 |
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mparillo_ | I can confirm that the daily ISOs install again (at least in Virtual Box) | 16:29 |
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acheronuk | mparillo_: thanks | 18:35 |
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IrcsomeBot | <Santa> good evening everyone | 19:20 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> @acheronuk if you have a few mins let's discuss the next bunch of things to do? | 19:20 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> @Santa, ok | 19:21 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> so what we have on the table right now is frameworks and apps and its merges | 19:22 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> 5.52 isn't available in debian yet | 19:22 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> so let's just upload as it is in the next few days and merge later? | 19:22 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> @Santa, yeah. 5.53 is minumim for upcoming plasma 5.15, so would be nice to have that in the archive before Xmas to be ready | 19:23 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> apps in debian are all over the place in versions, so I have so far been cherry picking off a few merges that make sense | 19:24 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> we don't have backports for 5.53 yet, do we? | 19:25 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> @Santa, not yet. was thinking of it soon if no tar respins happened, which they have not as far as I see | 19:26 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> ok, so we need to get the backports done and upload to the archive | 19:27 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> autotests are fine by the way, no regressions | 19:27 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> anything else to handle for fw 5.53? | 19:27 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> not that I'm aware of. kio should build now while new cmake is not there | 19:28 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> and as far as I know, the breaking commits in cmake will be reverted for now | 19:29 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> allright | 19:31 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> ok, so now let's move on | 19:31 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> I have been doing some stuff about tritemio and KA. so I can now use 5 freaking buildds at groomlake. if the changes don't create any troubles I will replicate the thing in area51. just FYI | 19:34 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> regarding KA I would like to do a new alpha soon, but there's already a couple of new interesting commands: refresh-abi-patch and check-changes | 19:35 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> @Santa, ooooh. :) | 19:36 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> so regarding check-changes: it fails with non zero exit code if you have changes that you didn't push to git | 19:37 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> or the upstream source unpacked | 19:37 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> so if, let's say you are working with a bunch of git clones and you don't remember exactly what you changed you can simply type "do-all check-changes" and you will find out (as long as the programs aren't buggy XD) | 19:38 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> nice | 19:39 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> and the other program, refresh-abi-patch is just to refresh the abi patches as we discussed | 19:39 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> it will work completely well in the next 2.3 alpha 9 | 19:40 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> @Santa, good. that is ok to do manually, but very very very tedious, so script will be great | 19:41 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> I was probably going to put off PIM until the new year, so timing works there ;) | 19:42 |
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IrcsomeBot | <Santa> that being said, I have been using what I did in KA to work a bit on the apps 18.08 packages | 19:44 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> right now what I have is this http://tritemio-groomlake.ddns.net/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/ubuntu-exp3_status_applications.html | 19:45 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> there's a few build failures which might affect the current versions in the archive, so I'm doing right now yet another test rebuild here: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/ubuntu-exp3_status_applications.html | 19:47 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> (will get all the packages in a few mins hopefully) | 19:47 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> so we will have a baseline to compare with 18.08 results | 19:48 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> that being said, I think the best way to go with apps merges is starting to merge 18.08 as we discussed. and we will see how to continue from there... | 19:49 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> yep, one reason I started cherry picking some | 19:50 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> ok, one thing more about apps: syndication | 19:51 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> 18.08 still provides syndication if I'm not mistaken | 19:51 |
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IrcsomeBot | <Santa> so we should do 18.08.3, then the one which comes from frameworks | 19:52 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> @Santa, if we update syndcation, then we much update akregator at the same time | 19:53 |
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IrcsomeBot | <Santa> yes | 19:53 |
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IrcsomeBot | <Santa> thing is, since this library is going to be part of frameworks, let's avoid the use of the abi manager | 19:54 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> even if there's an abi break | 19:54 |
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IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> debian bumped ABI I think? | 19:55 |
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IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> but we can cope without as longer as we rebuild/update the affected things | 19:55 |
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IrcsomeBot | <Santa> SIGH | 19:56 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> and the guy who did it is a kde devel 😐 | 19:56 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> meaning he could have bumped the thing properly in kde | 19:57 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> (Sticker, 512x345) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/rQJNsQvU/file_11338.webp | 19:57 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> (Sticker, 512x399) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/DX0RGYzv/file_11339.webp | 19:58 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> allright, nevermind. let's go with the abi manager then | 19:58 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> if anything I would try to convince the guy to bump the soname properly | 19:58 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> the >= 18.08 and frameworks syndication are meant to be binary compatible now, so we can do whatever one makes sense on the day | 19:59 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> @Santa, 🤐 | 20:00 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> so I think that's it for now | 20:03 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> Indeed. thanks :) | 20:05 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> so my plans from tomorrow and the next days are: get the next KA alpha done, push my changes to apps packages so we could start merging and get the fw 5.53 backports done (unless you get it done first) | 20:05 |
valorie | \o/ | 20:06 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> changes to apps? I was going to carry on cherrying picking some merges | 20:07 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> mostly refreshing the abi patches, but I wanted to double check that calmly tomorrow in the morning or so | 20:08 |
valorie | how do we keep track of applications that release separately from Applications? | 20:09 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> we don't, and that's not cool | 20:09 |
valorie | there is supposedly a list for announcing such things but evidently they sometimes don't know about it | 20:10 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> I subscribe to apps announce mails list. | 20:10 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> ftr there's a thing named "persian bazaar" here: https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/black-operations/ | 20:10 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> and keep an eye on debian uploads | 20:11 |
valorie | "Airbag" lol | 20:12 |
valorie | love it | 20:12 |
valorie | so Persian Bazaar is a name - cool name -- but basically in the dream stage? | 20:13 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> yeah | 20:13 |
valorie | I like that | 20:13 |
valorie | if dreams are named they can later take shape | 20:13 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> iirc I have some code which could be used to make a "git-clone-all -r extra" work | 20:14 |
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IrcsomeBot | <Santa> but I never had time due to the almost unlimited number of incoming things to do | 20:14 |
valorie | would that somehow do only releases? | 20:15 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> * I never had time to finish it | 20:15 |
valorie | @Santa - sleep is a unix command | 20:15 |
valorie | everyone needs it sometimes! | 20:15 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> I could really do with doing more non KDE merges for MOTU, but ***time*** ! | 20:16 |
valorie | yeah | 20:16 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> I do sleep. the "git-clone-all -r extra" would clone all the git repositories of non-fw/plasma/apps repos | 20:16 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> so from there we could do test rebuilds and that kind of thing | 20:16 |
valorie | :-) | 20:16 |
valorie | !info gramps | 20:17 |
ubottu | 'disco' is not a valid distribution: artful, artful-backports, artful-proposed, bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports | 20:17 |
valorie | pffff | 20:17 |
valorie | info gramps cosmic | 20:17 |
valorie | huh | 20:17 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> @acheronuk, especially since Simon now has less time due to erm..... other interests.... | 20:17 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> btw, as an unrelated note this week I explained ¡successfully! to my father how the electricity bill works | 20:18 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> (Photo, 1024x768) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/eh0Xmt1Q/file_11340.jpg | 20:18 |
IrcsomeBot | <acheronuk> @Santa, haha | 20:18 |
valorie | nice! | 20:18 |
valorie | acheronuk: I would have nominated gramps to be merged but it's up-to-date | 20:19 |
acheronuk | wft is gramps? | 20:21 |
acheronuk | wtf | 20:21 |
acheronuk | gotta go for a bit anyway. thanks all | 20:22 |
yofel | !info gramps cosmic | 20:23 |
ubottu | gramps (source: gramps): Genealogical research program. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.0-1 (cosmic), package size 6306 kB, installed size 39343 kB | 20:23 |
yofel | uhuh.. | 20:23 |
valorie | oh, gosh | 20:32 |
valorie | I really needed a second cuppa | 20:32 |
valorie | it's the only open-source one with a gui | 20:32 |
valorie | of course ugly 'cause gtk | 20:32 |
valorie | hi yofel | 20:35 |
valorie | how are ya | 20:35 |
yofel | well.. I guess? Just not opening IRC that often these days, mostly just when I'm doing KCI maintenance | 20:37 |
valorie | it's good to see you | 20:38 |
acheronuk | yofel: hi. good to see you | 20:41 |
yofel | thanks, *hugs*. Same here. Things going smoothely lately? I'm rather out of touch unless topics end up on the ML. That I try to keep up with | 20:41 |
acheronuk | on KCI I've mostly been poking builds manually the last few weeks, since a period where LP was very busy | 20:42 |
yofel | timeouts or straight failures? | 20:43 |
acheronuk | was timouts as an archive rebuild was beating KCI to the builders through sheer volume and longer amd64 build times | 20:44 |
yofel | grmbl, yeah, there are those.. I'm still not sure if increasing the CI timeout makes sense though.. | 20:46 |
acheronuk | yofel: on KCI maintenance Harold upgraded ansicolor-plugin on Neon CI, and quickly undid it as it broke something | 20:47 |
acheronuk | not 100% sure what, but I saw he had to downgrade | 20:47 |
yofel | okay, thanks for the info. I won't touch that then. Do you remember whether he had upgraded to 0.6 or was that 0.5.3? | 20:50 |
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acheronuk | yofel: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JJzZmpq8MK/ | 20:52 |
acheronuk | didn't say the version | 20:52 |
acheronuk | ah. job updater. | 20:53 |
acheronuk | may not bother us then? | 20:53 |
yofel | hm, that MR should be part of 0.5.3, I'll ignore it | 20:55 |
yofel | for now | 20:55 |
acheronuk | other thing is I have no clue how to fix mgmt_tooling to properly get rid of xenial :/ | 20:56 |
yofel | uh, *looking* | 20:59 |
acheronuk | apologies if jobs running this evening stop you doing anything. as said, I have been mostly poking in quiet periods for LP builders, instead of letting all nightly run | 20:59 |
yofel | nah, TBH I did abandoing my plans to do anything after seeing that the CI is busy, but don't worry about it | 21:00 |
yofel | *abandon | 21:00 |
yofel | oh great, rake failures ^^" | 21:01 |
acheronuk | yeah. I can hack around the edges of the tooling, but some of it is just over my head! | 21:02 |
yofel | *sigh*, do you know how to export an LXD container? I managed to set one up where one can actually run the tests by hand, but am now regretting I didn't put that on linode -_- | 21:07 |
valorie | yofel: there is an #LXD ..... | 21:08 |
yofel | ... good point ^^" | 21:09 |
acheronuk | I would have to google ;) | 21:09 |
valorie | lol | 21:11 |
acheronuk | valorie: if you knew how much dev work is just good Google skills, you would be amused.... | 21:13 |
yofel | true that XD | 21:13 |
valorie | acheronuk: my reputation is built on googling | 21:16 |
valorie | so yeah | 21:16 |
valorie | that's why I made my blog -- so it's easier to find stuff | 21:16 |
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yofel | e+ | 22:08 |
mparillo_ | Hi yofel. Not sure what e+ means, but it is nice to see you here. | 22:18 |
yofel | hey, yeah, nvm that ^^ | 22:19 |
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IrcsomeBot | <Santa> lxc publish container_name —alias image_name | 23:14 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> lxc image export image_name tarball_name | 23:14 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> lxc image import tarball_name.tar.gz —alias new_image_name | 23:15 |
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IrcsomeBot | <Santa> yofel: ↑ this | 23:15 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> first 2 commands to export the thing, third one to import the image somewhere else (other host) | 23:16 |
yofel | thanks! let me note that down.. | 23:16 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> btw, there's a wip incomplete guide for tritemio where that topic is covered: https://git.launchpad.net/~tritemio-maintainers/tritemio/+git/setup-guide/tree/source/chapters/lxd_containers_setup.rst | 23:17 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> also, the great series of blog posts about LXD: https://stgraber.org/2016/03/11/lxd-2-0-blog-post-series-012/ | 23:19 |
valorie | stgraber is da man | 23:27 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> the lxd man | 23:33 |
valorie | for sure | 23:34 |
valorie | I might have met him in person in the misty past too | 23:34 |
valorie | at the one UDS I got to attend | 23:34 |
valorie | good guy | 23:34 |
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