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[13:00] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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[16:29] <mparillo_> I can confirm that the daily ISOs install again (at least in Virtual Box)
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[18:35] <acheronuk> mparillo_: thanks
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 good evening everyone
 @acheronuk if you have a few mins let's discuss the next bunch of things to do?
 @Santa, ok
 so what we have on the table right now is frameworks and apps and its merges
 5.52 isn't available in debian yet
 so let's just upload as it is in the next few days and merge later?
 @Santa, yeah. 5.53 is minumim for upcoming plasma 5.15, so would be nice to have that in the archive before Xmas to be ready
 apps in debian are all over the place in versions, so I have so far been cherry picking off a few merges that make sense
 we don't have backports for 5.53 yet, do we?
 @Santa, not yet. was thinking of it soon if no tar respins happened, which they have not as far as I see
 ok, so we need to get the backports done and upload to the archive
 autotests are fine by the way, no regressions
 anything else to handle for fw 5.53?
 not that I'm aware of. kio should build now while new cmake is not there
 and as far as I know, the breaking commits in cmake will be reverted for now
 allright
 ok, so now let's move on
 I have been doing some stuff about tritemio and KA. so I can now use 5 freaking buildds at groomlake. if the changes don't create any troubles I will replicate the thing in area51. just FYI
 regarding KA I would like to do a new alpha soon, but there's already a couple of new interesting commands: refresh-abi-patch and check-changes
 @Santa, ooooh. :)
 so regarding check-changes: it fails with non zero exit code if you have changes that you didn't push to git
 or the upstream source unpacked
 so if, let's say you are working with a bunch of git clones and you don't remember exactly what you changed you can simply type "do-all check-changes" and you will find out (as long as the programs aren't buggy XD)
 nice
 and the other program, refresh-abi-patch is just to refresh the abi patches as we discussed
 it will work completely well in the next 2.3 alpha 9
 @Santa, good. that is ok to do manually, but very very very tedious, so script will be great
 I was probably going to put off PIM until the new year, so timing works there ;)
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 that being said, I have been using what I did in KA to work a bit on the apps 18.08 packages
 right now what I have is this http://tritemio-groomlake.ddns.net/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/ubuntu-exp3_status_applications.html
 there's a few build failures which might affect the current versions in the archive, so I'm doing right now yet another test rebuild here: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/ubuntu-exp3_status_applications.html
 (will get all the packages in a few mins hopefully)
 so we will have a baseline to compare with 18.08 results
 that being said, I think the best way to go with apps merges is starting to merge 18.08 as we discussed. and we will see how to continue from there...
 yep, one reason I started cherry picking some
 ok, one thing more about apps: syndication
 18.08 still provides syndication if I'm not mistaken
 so we should do 18.08.3, then the one which comes from frameworks
 @Santa, if we update syndcation, then we much update akregator at the same time
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 yes
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 thing is, since this library is going to be part of frameworks, let's avoid the use of the abi manager
 even if there's an abi break
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 debian bumped ABI I think?
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 but we can cope without as longer as we rebuild/update the affected things
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 SIGH
 and the guy who did it is a kde devel 😐
 meaning he could have bumped the thing properly in kde
 (Sticker, 512x345) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/rQJNsQvU/file_11338.webp
 (Sticker, 512x399) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/DX0RGYzv/file_11339.webp
 allright, nevermind. let's go with the abi manager then
 if anything I would try to convince the guy to bump the soname properly
 the >= 18.08 and frameworks syndication are meant to be binary compatible now, so we can do whatever one makes sense on the day
 @Santa, 🤐
 so I think that's it for now
 Indeed. thanks :)
 so my plans from tomorrow and the next days are: get the next KA alpha done, push my changes to apps packages so we could start merging and get the fw 5.53 backports done (unless you get it done first)
[20:06] <valorie> \o/
 changes to apps? I was going to carry on cherrying picking some merges
 mostly refreshing the abi patches, but I wanted to double check that calmly tomorrow in the morning or so
[20:09] <valorie> how do we keep track of applications that release separately from Applications?
 we don't, and that's not cool
[20:10] <valorie> there is supposedly a list for announcing such things but evidently they sometimes don't know about it
 I subscribe to apps announce mails list.
 ftr there's a thing named "persian bazaar" here: https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/black-operations/
 and keep an eye on debian uploads
[20:12] <valorie> "Airbag" lol
[20:12] <valorie> love it
[20:13] <valorie> so Persian Bazaar is a name - cool name -- but basically in the dream stage?
 yeah
[20:13] <valorie> I like that
[20:13] <valorie> if dreams are named they can later take shape
 iirc I have some code which could be used to make a "git-clone-all -r extra" work
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 but I never had time due to the almost unlimited number of incoming things to do
[20:15] <valorie> would that somehow do only releases?
 * I never had time to finish it
[20:15] <valorie> @Santa - sleep is a unix command
[20:15] <valorie> everyone needs it sometimes!
 I could really do with doing more non KDE merges for MOTU, but ***time*** !
[20:16] <valorie> yeah
 I do sleep. the "git-clone-all -r extra" would clone all the git repositories of non-fw/plasma/apps repos
 so from there we could do test rebuilds and that kind of thing
[20:16] <valorie> :-)
[20:17] <valorie> !info gramps
[20:17] <valorie> pffff
[20:17] <valorie> info gramps cosmic
[20:17] <valorie> huh
 @acheronuk, especially since Simon now has less time due to erm..... other interests....
 btw, as an unrelated note this week I explained ¡successfully! to my father how the electricity bill works
 (Photo, 1024x768) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/eh0Xmt1Q/file_11340.jpg
 @Santa, haha
[20:18] <valorie> nice!
[20:19] <valorie> acheronuk: I would have nominated gramps to be merged but it's up-to-date
[20:21] <acheronuk> wft is gramps?
[20:21] <acheronuk> wtf
[20:22] <acheronuk> gotta go for a bit anyway. thanks all
[20:23] <yofel> !info gramps cosmic
[20:23] <yofel> uhuh..
[20:32] <valorie> oh, gosh
[20:32] <valorie> I really needed a second cuppa
[20:32] <valorie> it's the only open-source one with a gui
[20:32] <valorie> of course ugly 'cause gtk
[20:35] <valorie> hi yofel
[20:35] <valorie> how are ya
[20:37] <yofel> well.. I guess? Just not opening IRC that often these days, mostly just when I'm doing KCI maintenance
[20:38] <valorie> it's good to see you
[20:41] <acheronuk> yofel: hi. good to see you
[20:41] <yofel> thanks, *hugs*. Same here. Things going smoothely lately? I'm rather out of touch unless topics end up on the ML. That I try to keep up with
[20:42] <acheronuk> on KCI I've mostly been poking builds manually the last few weeks, since a period where LP was very busy
[20:43] <yofel> timeouts or straight failures?
[20:44] <acheronuk> was timouts as an archive rebuild was beating KCI to the builders through sheer volume and longer amd64 build times
[20:46] <yofel> grmbl, yeah, there are those.. I'm still not sure if increasing the CI timeout makes sense though..
[20:47] <acheronuk> yofel: on KCI maintenance Harold upgraded ansicolor-plugin on Neon CI, and quickly undid it as it broke something 
[20:47] <acheronuk> not 100% sure what, but I saw he had to downgrade
[20:50] <yofel> okay, thanks for the info. I won't touch that then. Do you remember whether he had upgraded to 0.6 or was that 0.5.3?
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[20:52] <acheronuk> yofel: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JJzZmpq8MK/
[20:52] <acheronuk> didn't say the version
[20:53] <acheronuk> ah. job updater.
[20:53] <acheronuk> may not bother us then?
[20:55] <yofel> hm, that MR should be part of 0.5.3, I'll ignore it
[20:55] <yofel> for now
[20:56] <acheronuk> other thing is I have no clue how to fix mgmt_tooling to properly get rid of xenial :/
[20:59] <yofel> uh, *looking*
[20:59] <acheronuk> apologies if jobs running this evening stop you doing anything. as said, I have been mostly poking in quiet periods for LP builders, instead of letting all nightly run
[21:00] <yofel> nah, TBH I did abandoing my plans to do anything after seeing that the CI is busy, but don't worry about it
[21:00] <yofel> *abandon
[21:01] <yofel> oh great, rake failures ^^"
[21:02] <acheronuk> yeah. I can hack around the edges of the tooling, but some of it is just over my head!
[21:07] <yofel> *sigh*, do you know how to export an LXD container? I managed to set one up where one can actually run the tests by hand, but am now regretting I didn't put that on linode -_-
[21:08] <valorie> yofel: there is an #LXD  .....
[21:09] <yofel> ... good point ^^"
[21:09] <acheronuk> I would have to google ;)
[21:11] <valorie> lol
[21:13] <acheronuk> valorie: if you knew how much dev work is just good Google skills, you would be amused....
[21:13] <yofel> true that XD
[21:16] <valorie> acheronuk: my reputation is built on googling
[21:16] <valorie> so yeah
[21:16] <valorie> that's why I made my blog -- so it's easier to find stuff
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[22:08] <yofel> e+
[22:18] <mparillo_> Hi yofel. Not sure what e+ means, but it is nice to see you here.
[22:19] <yofel> hey, yeah, nvm that ^^
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 lxc publish container_name —alias image_name
 lxc image export image_name tarball_name
 lxc image import tarball_name.tar.gz —alias new_image_name
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 yofel: ↑ this
 first 2 commands to export the thing, third one to import the image somewhere else (other host)
[23:16] <yofel> thanks! let me note that down..
 btw, there's a wip incomplete guide for tritemio where that topic is covered: https://git.launchpad.net/~tritemio-maintainers/tritemio/+git/setup-guide/tree/source/chapters/lxd_containers_setup.rst
 also, the great series of blog posts about LXD: https://stgraber.org/2016/03/11/lxd-2-0-blog-post-series-012/
[23:27] <valorie> stgraber is da man
 the lxd man
[23:34] <valorie> for sure
[23:34] <valorie> I might have met him in person in the misty past too
[23:34] <valorie> at the one UDS I got to attend
[23:34] <valorie> good guy