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databitsI'm having some troubles here. For some reason my computer is taking a long time to boot.00:09
databitscould someone help me out ?00:09
math4u22list00:11
math4u22#list00:12
malwar3hun73rrypervenche, you still around?00:20
math4u22Drone r u here00:26
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malwar3hun73rany rsyslog gurus?01:38
krytarikMeta questions..01:45
ub3g33kI copy/paste rsyslog configs I find on google...  Does that count?01:47
leftyfbmath4u22: can we help you with something?01:56
jkgiMy laptop is suggesting I upgrade to version 18.04 LTS. When I try, it complains that api.snapcraft.io isn't up. It really isn't up. Is it better to wait for it to be repaired, or to go ahead without it? I have never used it and was not aware it existed until now.02:02
math4u22leftyfb>should I upgrade to 18 from 17.0402:06
leftyfbmath4u22: I always suggest a fresh install.02:07
math4u22i have noticed some problems with 17.04 that require a restart02:08
leftyfbmath4u22: 17.04 is EOL and not supported anymore02:09
math4u22ok02:09
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jkgiMy laptop is suggesting I upgrade to version 18.04 LTS. When I try, it complains that api.snapcraft.io isn't up. It really isn't up. Is it better to wait for it to be repaired, or to go ahead without it? I have never used it and was not aware it existed until now.02:38
rypervenchemalwar3hun73r: You should ask your question and someone may be able to help.02:38
dviolamy amdgpu drivers keeps freezing my system02:43
dviolaubuntu 18.0402:43
dviolaany ideas?02:43
dviolaI'm using oibaf ppa02:43
ZaZaQRhello02:44
math4u22leftyfb: I have a multiboot usb with 17.04 which I used to install 17.04.  I saved an 18.04 torrent iso on a second usb.  I have no idea how to install the 18.04 in place of 17.04. Is there a YouTube which would help with the upgrade install?02:50
leftyfbmath4u22: follow the same instructions you used to create the multiboot usb02:51
math4u22leftyfb: I purchased the multboot usb with several versions of ubuntu. When I look in the ubuntu 17.04 directory there are 10 sub directories one which is named “isolinux” when I open this directory there are about 90 files, but no iso file.03:07
leftyfbmath4u22: you don't stick iso's on a usb flash drive to get them to boot03:07
leftyfbmath4u22: why do you need multiple versions of ubuntu?03:08
math4u22I picked the most recent version of ubuntu 17,04 64 bit03:09
leftyfbmath4u22: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows03:10
math4u22ok i'll check it out, thank you03:10
leftyfbHere's a 10yo from youtube showing you how to do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIhYitXwJfE  .. found on google by searching "install ubuntu onto usb"03:11
SysGhostFor creating bootable USB drives with linux from within Windows, I can recommend LinuxLive USB Creator03:17
alephnullIs it possible to install Ubuntu with secure boot on? I have a new Thinkpad X1CG6 and it will not boot the USB I created using "Startup disk creator".03:49
leftyfbalephnull: why do you need secure boot?03:51
BlankspaceHi03:55
alephnullleftyfb, Because it is usually on by default and if there is a problem, I'd like to file a bug and fix it.03:56
BlankspaceMy ubuntu keeps logging off03:56
leftyfbalephnull: just disable it03:56
BlankspaceI dont know why03:56
BlankspaceAnd you then you get that screen where you have to enter pwd03:56
BlankspaceTo login again03:56
alephnull*sigh*03:56
BlankspacePlease help me someone why is this happening03:57
Blankspace:/03:57
BlankspaceIt logs out automatically03:58
BlankspaceWithin minutes of me logging back in03:58
leftyfbBlankspace: what version of ubuntu?03:58
Blankspace16.0403:58
leftyfbalephnull: the answer is, yes, it's possible03:59
BlankspaceWhat do i do04:02
alephnullleftyfb, thx04:07
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BlankspaceAnyone?04:15
guivercBlankspace, your DEsktop is Unity (ie. standard Ubuntu, not Ubuntu-GNOME)?04:16
BlankspaceHow to know that?04:17
guivercBlankspace, it was just a thought - the only time I've been logged out for no good reason was with gnome (added extensions causing crash; logout occurs)... The fix is to remove extensions & it should resolve, then slowly add them back until you know which causes issue ..   (my thinking, but it likely won't help you.. it's a gnome thing)04:19
BlankspaceLast night it was working fine04:20
BlankspaceI dont know what happened04:20
BlankspaceI didnt install anything04:20
BlankspaceNo addons04:20
BlankspaceOr extensions04:20
guivercBlankspace, you could login to terminal , and next time it logs you out, look at logs to look for clues, ie. `dmesg` (you'll possibly see error messages as that will point to cause.. it could be memory, disk failing or hardware issue .. etc - could be software too, but currently you have no clues04:21
BlankspaceLike if i login to guest account it doesnt logs me out04:22
guivercthe altnerative is just next time it occurs, don't re-login to gui, switch to terminal & `dmesg >dmesg_crash_2018-12-09` etc. then you can view, find line & get help here etc - info to chase down your issue04:22
BlankspaceCan i login to guest user and type dmesg in terminal04:23
BlankspaceI dont know how to switch to terminal04:24
BlankspaceWhat is tpm error04:26
guivercmy suggestion was to switch to [text] terminal, ie. ctrl+alt+f4 and look there (ctrl+alt+f7 should return you to gui), it's just easier (in my opinion) to view logs/info without affecting data you're trying to view  (gui hides the info such as error that causes your logout, text terminal won't be logged out until shutdown)04:26
BlankspaceIt doesnt show anything04:31
BlankspaceWhen i type dmesg dmesg_crash_2018-12-0904:32
guivercit was `dmesg >filename` (where the filename was an example that I'd likely use, ie. date & clue as to what it was)  .. it contains the dmesg output so you can scan it... a log since boot, it would be best to look there just after crash/logout, as easier to find useful clues .. if nothign there, i'd `sudo journalctl` & look there .. ie. looking thru logs looking for clues; but should be easier to find clues if event you're looking for04:35
guivercjust occurred04:35
guivercit was a suggestion only - what I could think of Blankspace04:36
BlankspaceGuiverc thank you for helping. I am trying to reboot04:39
BlankspaceIt stopped logging out for a while04:39
BlankspaceI'll check once again by rebooting if it logs me out again04:40
BlankspaceIt got resolved by itself. It seems.04:44
cfhowlett!ping04:55
ubottupong!04:55
leonardusHow do I restore the boot manager? Some stupid windows update did something to it, and now my computer boots into Windows 10 by default. I'm on Ubuntu right now.05:38
leonardusIt used to boot into grub and let me select between ubuntu and windows, I found a workaround which was to manually select it from BIOS every time I boot, but I'm looking for a more permanent solution05:39
redwheelbarrowhey, anyone here know of an up to date Rails install doc for Ubuntu?05:42
redwheelbarrowI keep having my install break for varying reasons. I'd like to use RVM to install it all05:43
leonardusredwheelbarrow: not able to help you but just wanted to say great username05:47
mantis`Hi all. I'm using 18.04 on an asus laptop. I've got a funny sound issue. System sounds work work fine. But I'm not getting sound from firefox or chrome. Mplayer can play an audio track. But vlc can't05:49
mantis`what could be happening? how do I go about debugging the issue?05:50
leonardusmantis`: bring up the "pulseaudio volume control" application, are there any programs muted in the "playback" tab?05:50
mantis`leonardus: Is "pulseaudio volume control" the same as the sound settings in gnome's 'Settings' panel?05:51
leonardusmantis`: no, but check the "applications" on that too while you're at it05:52
mantis`When I bring that up, there is a tab called 'Applications'. It has sound settings for chrome an mplayer. They all have volume up to full05:52
leonardusare the switches to the right of them turned on?05:52
mantis`yep05:52
mantis`leonardus: so I guess the next step is finding the pulseaudio volume contol05:53
leonardusmantis`: does firefox/vlc show up on there when you open them?05:53
redwheelbarrowanyone know where to find an up to date rails install document for ubuntu05:53
mantis`leonardus: no. just two slots for chrome. The slot for mplayer just dissapeared. That's prolly cos the track I was playng from the commandline completed05:54
mantis`oh05:56
mantis`leonardus: I just installed pavucontrol. I can see that chrome isn't muted. But looking at the 'output devices' tab, it appears that the sound is being channeled through to the HDMI port05:58
mantis`I don't have the device actually plugged into an HDMI output though05:58
leonardusmantis`: can I see a screenshot?05:58
leonardusjust of the output devices tab05:59
mantis`https://imgur.com/a/xgh3mSP06:01
mantis`leonardus: I'm looking around both pavu control and the gnome sound settings for a switch, to switch from hdmi output back to just using the devices own sound output. I can't see anything.06:05
leonardusyeah, I'm not sure, sorry. try idling here maybe someone will come along06:06
mantis`k06:06
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gear4hi07:14
gear4i get this in my ubuntu https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/329827854152105994/521221539937386496/20181209_100811.jpg07:14
gear4any ideas why ?07:14
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Net|pkg-config for glib2 is not working good09:16
Net|brb double checking09:17
Net|cflags is working but libs nothing shows up09:17
eFfeMHi, I'm trying to install/use a printer connected to my tp-link router, the install worked put when I try to print a document the Document printer status applet says "Printer "Canon-PIXMA-iP4500" may not be connected; cups says "the printer is in use" and the printer is sitting idle. Anyone an idea what could be wrong ?09:17
Net|nm its working now09:18
eFfeM(btw this is on 16.04.0509:21
Net|$(OBJECTS) $(LDFLAGS) if you have troubles linking its because ldflags needs to be after objects in makefiles09:21
gimpnixonhello09:21
ducasseeFfeM: how is it connected to your router - network cable or usb?09:23
eFfeMducasse: usb09:23
eFfeMducasse: router is tl-wdr5300, printer spooler is started, usb connection is there (if I unplug the usb cable the led associated with it goes off, replugging makes it go on again)09:24
ducasseeFfeM: sorry, i've never tried that so can't help.09:25
eFfeMducasse: no problem, thanks for trying09:25
kab0mHow do i run a qml-script from bash cli? If i try "qml -apptype widget -I /usr/lib/kid3/plugins/imports /usr/share/kid3/qml/script/ExportCsv.qml" i get "qml: could not find a Qt installation of" error09:26
ducasseeFfeM: i'd try restarting the spooler and double-check the settings on the router, only other suggestion i've got is to get support from the manufacturer. have you got access to a windows machine?09:27
eFfeMducasse, I think this worked under windows but that was long ago,  I already rebooted router, restarted printer spooler on router and restarted cups but to no avail09:29
eFfeMwill for this print job probably move the printer and connect directly09:29
ducasseeFfeM: i'd try asking for help here again on a weekday, or later today. weekends are quiet here, especially at this time.09:31
ducassegood luck, though09:32
eFfeMducasse: thanks, will try that and will try windows later, for now just moved the printer and connected directly, that worked so my urgent need is resolved09:32
kab0mHow can i run qml-scripts?10:02
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imihello, I believe my machine contains a GPS module. how can I find out, and how can I use it? For instance, is there a commandline tool which just prints my cordinates to stdout and then quits?11:11
ikoniaimi: lspci and lsusb will show all PCI and USB bus devices11:12
ikoniasee if there is a GPS device listed in it, I doubt there is11:13
ikoniaI can't think of many devices that are not built for a specific function that would contain a GPS device in them11:13
imiikonia: ok then my second guess is there is no GPS device in my machine. I'm goind to buy one11:19
imiwhat sort of device is best for linux?11:21
SimonNLhttps://www.systutorials.com/docs/linux/man/8-gpsd/    imi does this help you in any way11:27
Discy /list11:44
SircleMy battery says 60% charging. And its that since forever11:59
SircleWhat does this means?11:59
lotuspsychje!info laptop-mode-tools | Sircle try this12:00
ubottuSircle try this: laptop-mode-tools (source: laptop-mode-tools): Tools for Power Savings based on battery/AC status. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.71-2ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 83 kB, installed size 378 kB12:00
SircleI missed the last message. Can the one messaged it, repeat it?12:03
lotuspsychjeSircle: try to install laptop-mode-tools12:03
lotuspsychjeSircle: try also from terminal: upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT012:03
Sircleok12:04
Sirclewhat does this usually means though?12:04
lotuspsychjeSircle: it means, if something is wrong with your battery, you can do a few tests to find out whats going on exactly12:05
Sirclelotuspsychje:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/W2mM8ySxGp/12:06
Sirclewill be back in 1012:06
lotuspsychje!rootirc | oberasp12:15
ubottuoberasp: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.12:15
Sirclelotuspsychje:  all looks ok?12:16
lotuspsychjeSircle: it looks like its on 60% like you say12:16
Sirclelotuspsychje:  why would it not go above it12:18
lotuspsychjeSircle: have you tryed taking battery out, plug in again? perhaps also a bios firmware update12:18
Sirclelotuspsychje:  I think it might be the battery life issue12:18
lotuspsychjeSircle: yes, i also suspect it12:18
lotuspsychjeSircle: try also another ubuntu version maybe boot up a liveusb as a test?12:22
Sirclelotuspsychje:  ok12:24
BluesKajHey folks12:47
prof2004hi ioria12:52
ioriaprof2004, hi12:52
alephnullleftyfb, Turns out Secure boot is supported out of the box. I was just using the image wrong.12:53
prof2004I have tried to get the LG monitor running with the internal graphics card from Intel,i91512:54
prof2004using the displayport12:54
prof2004I do only get 4 resolutions, the best is 1024x76812:55
prof2004the monitor is not identified properly12:55
prof2004Then I have installed the rx graphics card from AMD12:56
prof2004in the first step, it was not doing well, so I made some trials with mixed card usage12:56
prof2004afterall, I have reset the bios to standard values and have all 3 monitors attached to thr rx card12:57
ioriamixed card usage ?12:57
prof2004and it works12:57
ioriaprof2004, very good12:57
prof2004yes, you can use the internal card, and the external card together12:58
ioriaprof2004, ok12:58
prof2004I am really wondering, the internal card does not identify the monitor in the right way, the external does12:59
prof2004I am no trying to make the system stable, as you told me, it is a mess12:59
prof2004I have deleted all the sources for other programs, only http://ppa.launchpad.net/clipgrab-team/ppa/ubuntu bionic main is still there13:00
prof2004and http://ppa.launchpad.net/oibaf/graphics-drivers/ubuntu, but this is not marked as active13:01
prof2004It is open source driver package13:01
ioriaprof2004, usually we advice to stick with official respositories sources13:02
prof2004looking to the web at https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers13:02
prof2004it seams, that the mesa driver in my system are from there, do they?13:03
ioriaprof2004, dpkg -l | grep mesa | pastebinit13:03
prof2004Reverting to original drivers needs to enter sudo ppa-purge ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers13:04
prof2004http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TDnQXw9cJz/13:04
prof2004I a little bit afraid, if I do purge the drivers, nothing works again13:05
prof2004because updating to 18.04 made me crazy, because the drivers from AMD, working fine in 16.04, did not work anymore13:05
prof2004after searching the internet, I found the mesa solution, which was working13:06
ioriaprof2004, apt-cache policy libopenvg1-mesa | pastebinit13:07
prof2004http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZmkYqVHHr7/13:07
prof2004this is the output for xrandr13:07
ioriai see13:08
prof2004http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xvfTQjSrvp/13:08
ioriaprof2004, you still have old leftover, but probably not an issue13:10
prof2004how can I get rid of the old stuff?13:11
ioriaprof2004,  sudo apt purge libopenvg1-mesa13:11
prof2004shall I purge the ppa source from oibaf?13:11
ioriaprof2004,  i think you already did that13:12
prof2004done, libroutermanager-plugins-gstreamer1 is missing, as well as libroutermanager013:13
prof2004config data from libopenvg1-mesa:amd64 (10.1.3-0ubuntu0.6) are deleted13:13
prof2004no, ioria, I am waiting for a go :-)13:13
ioriaprof2004,  your version of libopenvg1-mesa is 10.1.3, and it's not supported anymore; so we are just removing completely that pkg13:15
ioriaprof2004,  do the same for libgles2-mesa13:17
ioriaprof2004,  the last btw can be reinstalled with the correct version (18.0.5)13:18
prof2004ok, i will remove these packages, and than, I shall install libgles2-mesa again?13:20
ioriaprof2004, apt-cache policy libgles2-mesa | pastebinit13:21
prof2004sudo apt remove libopenvg1-mesa, makes nothing, because package libopenvg1-mesa:i386 is not installed13:23
prof2004http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mk72wtW2dS/13:23
prof2004the same for libgles2-mesa13:24
ioriaprof2004, apt-cache policy libgles2-mesa:i386  | pastebinit13:25
prof2004http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3N7pMXWyYT/13:26
ioriaprof2004, and i told you 'purge' not 'remove'13:26
ioriaprof2004,  sudo apt purge  libgles2-mesa:i38613:26
prof2004done for both packages13:28
ioriaok13:28
prof2004shall I now install libgles2-mesa13:28
prof2004?13:29
prof2004and what is with ppa-purge of the oibaf source? shall I do it?13:29
ioriaprof2004,  it's not required, but you can .. why did you install it ?13:30
prof2004I do not remember, it was during my trials to find a solution. I did not have this chat for help at this time13:30
ioria!info libgles2-mesa13:31
ubottulibgles2-mesa (source: mesa): transitional dummy package. In component universe, is optional. Version 18.0.5-0ubuntu0~18.04.1 (bionic), package size 5 kB, installed size 65 kB13:31
ioriaah, transitional dummy package13:31
ioriaprof2004,  i don't think you'll need it13:31
prof2004ok13:33
prof2004so we are done, do we?13:35
ioriaprof2004,  maybe :þ13:35
prof2004I have one more problem actually13:36
prof2004I am using an HP photosmart 7510 with intigrated scanner13:37
prof2004Scan SW is scan2pdf13:37
prof2004scan2pdf does not find the scanner anymore. It was working before.13:38
prof2004setup of scan2pdf says, using interface libimage-sane-perl13:39
ioriaprof2004,  and simple-scan  can find the scanner ?13:40
prof2004no, no scanner found13:40
prof2004I had already this problem before, and think I have reinstalled something from HP with apt13:41
ioriaprof2004,  did you installed the drivers from HP or what ?13:42
prof2004http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4vTpwrScQp/13:42
ioria*install13:42
ioriaprof2004,  that hw should be supported by hplip13:45
prof2004I have had driver installed from HP in 16.04, but they did not work anymore with 18.0413:45
prof2004I have deinstalled, because I found the hint, that ubuntu has support for printing and scanning from HP devices build in13:46
ioriaprof2004,  when it stopped working exactly ?13:47
prof2004I do not know, but now, the system is up and running, I was just trying to scan something and it does not work13:48
prof2004this was before we have made our changes today13:48
prof2004I need scan and printing to run my office activities13:49
ioriaprof2004,  ls /usr/lib/sane13:50
prof2004access not possible, file or folder not found13:51
ioriaok13:51
ioriaprof2004,  usb or wifi ?13:53
IoloIs it possible to change which partition landscape-sysinfo reports the usage of, or preferrably to add more partitions to the report?13:53
prof2004wifi13:53
prof2004there is no sane directory, indeed13:54
prof2004wrong, I found one13:54
ioriaprof2004,  no idea about wifi : try this https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223234413:55
prof2004usr/lib/x86_64ölinux-gnu13:55
ioriaprof2004,  yeah, i have to go afk,ry later13:55
prof2004cu, thank you13:56
ducasseprof2004: try reinstalling hplip if it isn't properly installed already13:59
prof2004hi ducasse, sudo apt install hplip reinstall ?14:00
ducasse'sudo apt install --reinstall hplip'14:03
prof2004have purged and after that installed14:04
prof2004no scanner found by simple scan14:04
prof2004oha, wait a minute ...14:05
ducassedoes it say which backend it tries?14:07
prof2004it seams to me, that the printer has a network problem, it is a shame for me, sorry14:09
prof2004I will check and come back, if the problem persists, thank you14:09
ducassecan you find out which ip address the printer is on and try to ping it?14:10
zzero1what is  the latest kernel for bionic ?14:13
ducasse!info linux-image-generic bionic14:13
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.15.0.42.44 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 15 kB14:13
prof2004the printer is actually not accessed to the wlan, which it was always. Have to go for that. cu14:13
zzero1!info linux-image-generic bionic14:14
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.15.0.42.44 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 15 kB14:14
zzero1thanks ducasse14:14
ducasseyw14:15
Richard_CavellI have a .xml file that I am able to view as though it were a text file.  Is there an application for Ubuntu 16.04 in the repos that will enable me to view this .xml file in some other way?14:16
tchakatakRichard_Cavell: what other way ?14:17
Richard_CavellI don't know.  It just seems like it was meant to be interpreted in some other way14:18
tchakatakYou could use an ide/text editor with color like atom.. really good for walking trough stuff like this14:18
tchakataka xml is not interpreted.14:18
tchakatakits basically text organised in a certain way.14:18
tchakatakwhat would you like to do with your xml file exactly ?14:19
Richard_CavellI don't even know.  It just seems like it could be presented graphically14:21
coz_Richard_Cavell, you open it in firfox, i beleive to see what it's about14:23
coz_firefox14:24
enchoI have been running Ubuntu (14.04, 16.04 and now tried instlaling 18.04) on my Toshiba Satellite C55-C laptop. It has a Broadcom wifi chip 43xxx (can't provide exact number coz I booted into Windows now in order to have networking).14:25
enchoThe install CD (neither the Live-desktp nor the actual innstaller) see my wifi card. This has been like that since 14.04 and is actually quite annoying and I am very hopefu with every new version of ubutu that this problem would be resolved but so far it is not happening.14:25
enchoSo I end up with linux installed without wifi networking and the it's  a huge pain in the ... to try and make it work.14:25
enchoIs there any way to make the installer see this card?14:26
enchoOh and yes - the wireless is enabled in the BIOS and during the installation (the LED is ON)14:26
enchoAs a matter of fact it works now (in windows 7)14:27
ducasse!broadcom | encho try reading this14:27
ubottuencho try reading this: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx14:27
ducasseencho: afaik you need to install first and then install the broadcom drivers14:29
cybercryptohi there14:30
cybercryptoI am searching for a way to display downspeed and upspeed graph sum, together... in conky. anyone has any clue where I should look?14:30
cybercryptodownspeed and upspeed in separate graphs are very obvious.14:31
cybercryptois there a way to 'sum up' both in a single graph?14:31
ducassecybercrypto: i'm sure there's a script here that does that - https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28186514:32
cybercryptoducasse: thanks, let me take a look.14:34
ducassecybercrypto: that thread is over a 1000 pages, though, so happy hunting :)14:34
cybercryptoducasse: hunting? yeap... that's the linux spirit brow, thanks.14:35
coz_encho,  not to promote "distro-hopping" but you can also try fedora 29 which has in their repos a bcm43xx-fwcutter.x86_64 : Firmware extraction tool for Broadcom wireless driver14:38
coz_, I have not used it so I have no further instructions for it14:38
ducassecybercrypto: you can also ask in #conky, but it's thinly populated14:38
ducassecoz_: that's in the ubuntu repos as well14:39
coz_ducasse, ah cool, thanks14:40
coz_ducasse, never had a need to use on any distro so...14:41
encho@ducasse - thank you I will what you suggested14:41
encho... will *read what you...14:42
enchoit is really quite annoying that this has not been fixed for such long time... after all Broadcom is a major brand... one would think that there's a lot of interest in making these dievice work14:43
ducasseencho: unless i'm mistaken, you just install broadcom-sta-dkms and that will build the driver14:43
ducasseencho: i think it's a licence thing, the driver can not be distributed as a binary with the kernel14:44
enchosame story with my Bluetooth chip :( I have to download firmwares... load them... it's hard to find the correct firmware... etc etc14:44
encho@ducasse - yeah most likely... anyway - I go read now , thanks again :)14:45
encho@coz_ : Yes I have been using Fedora and yes - it does NOT have these problems14:46
encho(so maybe it isn\t a license/binary problem after all?)14:46
enchoUnfortunately Fedora has varios other issues on a laptop and I found that overall Ubuntu is more suitable to use on a laptop and Fedora - as a server14:47
ducassei dunno, it's just the usual reason why drivers are distributed as dkms packages14:48
enchoI do keep this option as a last resort but for now I was hoping I could get my Ubuntu working :)14:48
coz_encho, not so, works great on this laptop14:48
encho'this\ - meaning your laptop or the Toshiba I described?14:48
coz_encho, I don't see why not, but inreality, unless the laptop is in front of me, testing, I cant say absolutely,14:54
coz_encho, I use bot ubuntu and fedora, on even lower end laptops with little to no real issues14:55
coz_encho,  A live iso will let you know14:55
enchocoz_ : a live fedora iso?14:56
coz_encho, yep14:57
coz_encho, you can also try the spins  https://spins.fedoraproject.org/14:58
ducassethis isn't really the place to discuss fedora, though14:58
coz_ducasse,  absolutely true14:59
enchocoz_ : and then things like Nvidia 3d accel drivers? MP3 support? They all work fine for you in fc29?14:59
coz_encho,  you can prvt me14:59
enchoducasse: yes... wrapping it up with this last question14:59
prof2004hi15:08
HaMsTeRsthis is crap.  my wifi disconnected suddenly and required to reboot. and it halt on reboot. when I tried rmmod mwifiex_pcie -f it said the module is busy. the entire linux experience here is definitely lame.  including no battery status and sxits15:20
tchakatakHaMsTeRs: Its not because you dont know how to use linux that it is crap :)15:25
tchakatakwhat is your problem exactly ?15:25
HaMsTeRsproblem 1: no battery status showing, which I'll never know when the system will run out of battery.   problem 2: wifi module randomly corrupted.  once corrupted, I need to cold boot the system by holding the power button15:27
HaMsTeRsit'll not work when using the reboot --force or shutdown -h now command.  it'll hung15:28
HaMsTeRsproblem 3.  all the software I like are not free -- including Binary Ninja, IDA Pro, Sublime15:29
HaMsTeRsand the free versions of it's alternate are like poking a log in the cherry15:29
HaMsTeRs*excuse me15:29
ducasseyou're complaining that some software costs money?15:31
tchakatak:)15:31
tchakatakYup, i love dev for nuts. I can definetly live with that.15:31
tchakatakHaMsTeRs: IDA pro is not free anyway15:32
tchakatakbatterny not showing? depend of your laptop and how did you configure the acpi15:32
tchakatakproblem 2 is generally due to a driver problem15:32
HaMsTeRsfor problem 1, it's more like acpi module15:33
tchakatakyup.15:33
HaMsTeRsI see many acpi error in dmesg15:33
tchakatakdid you google that errors ?15:33
HaMsTeRsyes, and it's a known issue which nobody ever solved15:33
tchakatakreally ? and can you past us that ?15:33
HaMsTeRsa thread opened like a year ago in jakeday15:34
ducasseHaMsTeRs: try this - http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html15:34
tchakatakalso the output of acpi -d15:34
HaMsTeRsok, pls wait15:34
tchakatakyour thing is really old15:34
tchakatakwhat laptop do you use ?15:34
HaMsTeRssurface pro 201715:36
tchakatakacpi -b ?15:36
ducasseaha, there's your problem15:37
tchakataklol15:37
tchakataka surface on linux :)15:37
ducasselast i heard they had known problems running linux15:37
HaMsTeRshere's the thread I'm talking about: https://github.com/jakeday/linux-surface/issues/2815:38
HaMsTeRsacpi -b nothing shown15:38
tchakatakJust to know, what version of ubuntu, what kernel are you using15:39
babouanyone else using protonvpn on Ubuntu and have some sort of simple way to use the CLI launcher sudo command without having to manually type it in every time15:40
tchakatakbabou: no15:40
tchakatakYou can use nm-applet15:40
babouwhats that do?15:41
ducassebabou: set up an alias15:41
tchakatakor an alias15:41
baboui mean its simple, sudo protonvpn-cli -f15:41
HaMsTeRs4.18.16-surface-linux-surface #15 SMP Tue Oct 23 10:33:36 EDT 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | ubuntu 18.1015:41
babouis it worth the effort to set that up?15:41
ducassebabou: 'alias myvpn="sudo protonvpn-cli -f"'15:42
ducassebabou: put that in ~/.bashrc, then you just type 'myvpn'15:42
tchakatakHaMsTeRs: so you use a non official kernel15:43
tchakatakHaMsTeRs: and 2 out of your 3 problems come from the kernel15:43
HaMsTeRsthe official kernel even worst15:43
tchakatakfirst, use a lts version15:44
HaMsTeRseven the touchscreen won't work15:44
HaMsTeRsyes, I moved from 18.04 to 18.1015:44
ducassethat may be, but we don't support what you're running now15:44
HaMsTeRsI'm new, and I want to move to Linux as my main box for daily drive15:45
tchakatakHaMsTeRs: Cool. Then do not use a pseudo kernel based on a github code if you dont know what your doing.15:46
ducassehave you tried a mainline kernel?15:46
HaMsTeRsI don't care which kernel to run, if necessary, I can change to any kernel.  I just want the basic stuffs to work15:46
ducasseif you need a newer kernel at all15:46
babouducasse, do i need to reboot?15:46
tchakataktry to use ukuu and kernel 4.19.415:46
ducassebabou: no, just relogin15:46
babouahh gotcha15:46
baboui'll try it next time i boot, tyvm15:47
tchakatakbut not something custom builded if you dont really know what your doing.15:47
ducassebabou: to try it now, type 'source ~/.bashrc'15:47
babouHaMsTeRs, are you trying to run ubuntu on a surface?15:47
HaMsTeRsbabou, yes.  exactly.  that is, and only that is what I want15:48
babouducasse, that worked15:48
baboutyvm friend15:48
ducassebabou: yw15:48
babouHaMsTeRs, my man, all i have to say is god speed, i use a surface pro 5 with i7, 16gb ram and 512 SSD and that thing is a steaming pile of garbage15:48
HaMsTeRsI tried the mainline kernel, and it's even worst15:48
HaMsTeRsbabou, that's exactly what I'm running15:49
tchakatakHaMsTeRs: wich one ?15:49
babouive been trying to get work to give me something else to use because i work in cybersecurity and I'm a power user, but the board of directors wants all "serious" employees using F****** surface pros15:49
babougod the video output can barely support one 4k monitor15:49
babouFML15:49
HaMsTeRstchakatak, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VdmwDnXHj9/15:50
tchakatakbabou: Work in cybersecurity and having a surface Oo15:50
baboutchakatak, right15:50
babouits garbage15:50
baboui hate it15:50
tchakatakUse a mac, at least you can install whatever you want15:50
babouI want one of those new theloios15:50
babouthelios15:51
babouor a engineer/workstation laptop from lenovo15:51
tchakatakthing is, users of today dont understant that a new computer is not faster than a older one.15:51
tchakataki use a thinkpad :)15:51
babouI can convince them to send me to every training and cert under the sun15:51
baboubuy me $1k 4k dell monitors15:51
babouspend on crazy tings15:51
babouthings15:51
baboubut a proper laptop15:52
HaMsTeRsbabou, i got an x260 from work.  but they locked the bios and didn't enable vtx15:52
tchakatakHaMsTeRs: thats a decent laptop for linux15:52
babouI got them to install docker for a hot second then they got wise on my shenanigans15:52
babounow i'm forced to use the vmware infra to do anything virtual15:52
tchakatakbabou: lxc ?15:52
tchakatakvagrant ?15:52
tchakatakyou have alternatives15:53
baboufor what15:53
tchakatakto docker15:53
baboui am not allowed to run anything virtual on my laptop anymore15:53
tchakatakOo15:53
tchakatakand you work in cybersecurity ?15:53
babouaka: we just bought 4 million dollars in hyperconverged infra use it damnit15:53
babouwe practice a very very very very very strict implementation of least privileged15:54
babouhyper segmentation15:54
HaMsTeRswhy hyperconverge instead of standard vmware + san set?15:55
JesuwopeHey my friends, what is the command in ubuntu to cause page scroll pause?15:55
babouI'm actually trying to get them to set me up on a cloud service with VDI so I can just use my surface as an expensive thin client15:55
JesuwopeA standard Linux option, I'm sure, that I never knew!15:55
babouHaMsTeRs, thats a good question for the server team and I.T. director15:55
baboupersonally I like hyperconverged it performs well, its dense, easy to manage15:55
baboueasier on the rack space usage lol15:55
HaMsTeRsyes, but many of them if limitation during expansion15:56
ducassecan we move this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic and focus on support?15:56
babousorry!15:56
Jesuwoperiiiight15:56
Jesuwopeme 315:56
HaMsTeRsoh VDI.  another expansive piece of toy15:56
HaMsTeRsok15:56
* HaMsTeRs twists ducasse's nipples15:57
desudesudesudesuIs there a way to get more colours in my terminal? I don't just mean the $PS1 part - also preferably if I can download premade configs instead of writing them all myself16:03
desudesudesudesufor example, let's say I use "ifconfig" -- is there a simple way to have the adapter name in one colour, the flags in another colour, the ip info in another16:04
tchakatakback16:04
ducassedesudesudesudesu: not really, unless the program supports that16:04
desudesudesudesuetc etc.. I'm using Xubuntu xfce with the default term if it makes a difference16:04
tchakatakHaMsTeRs: can you rollback on a official kernel and then list us the problem you have ?16:04
tchakatakdesudesudesudesu: simple no. you could use a zsh and put colors / regex in a zshrc16:05
desudesudesudesuducasse, ah thanks. Seems so, couldn't find anything online besides PS1 colours.16:05
ducassedesudesudesudesu: for example 'ls' supports colored output, but that's because it was coded to do so16:06
desudesudesudesutchakatak, thanks, I thought about that :/ But I don't really wanna spend the time making it myself. It will be super tedious lol16:07
tchakatakdesudesudesudesu: so far its the only way i know to add colors for a program who dont support them16:07
HaMsTeRstchakatak, if I roll back to official kernel, the problem would be:  problem 1: battery status not showing, problem 2: wifi randomly disconnect, problem 3: touchscreen not recognized, problem 4: system reboot after sleep16:08
tchakatak+how16:08
ducassedesudesudesudesu: there's a program called 'ccze' that colorises logs, of that helps16:08
tchakatakHaMsTeRs: Sleep problems are really tough.16:08
tchakatakfor the touchscreen you might have a workaround.16:08
tchakatakafter your tablet is really new, and an official microsoft product so...16:09
desudesudesudesuducasse, I'll check it out. Maybe I can copy their colour/regex/parsing methods and apply to a .zshrc16:09
desudesudesudesuThanks <316:09
ducassedesudesudesudesu: np. it's in the repos16:10
leonardusHow do I restore the boot manager? Some stupid windows update did something to it, and now my computer boots into Windows 10 by default. I'm on Ubuntu right now. It used to boot into grub and let me select between ubuntu and windows, I found a workaround which was to manually select it from BIOS every time I boot, but I'm looking for a more permanent solution16:12
tchakatakleonardus: reinstall grub16:13
ducasse!fixgrub | leonardus16:13
ubottuleonardus: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub216:13
ducasseleonardus: if you're booting in uefi mode, just reset the boot order with efibootmgr16:16
chocolatewhat a hack is the reason, ubuntu is not going to write the correct path of my windows boot after update-grub command? or even after the install.... it doesn't recognize the right path....16:19
Solaris444hi all, I'm building a new machine. Any recommendations on hardware?16:21
leonardusSolaris444: what will you be using it for? what is your budget?16:21
leonardusyou also might want to ask in ##hardware16:21
Solaris444@leonardus: It will be for business and coding16:23
leonardusSolaris444: you will get better help in ##hardware16:25
Solaris444ok i'll head there16:26
chocolatehow do you guys fix the grub boot entry?]16:26
encho@ducasse - so the easiest method by far to fix the missing Broadco wireless drivers  -IF-  you have access to a cabled connection...16:28
ducasseSolaris444: in general, try to avoid anything too new, as support might not be quite there yet16:28
enchois to plug it in, then go to Settings->additional drivers and insatl from there :)16:28
ducasseencho: yep16:28
enchoI read the article you gave me and understand those methods as well but there were some problems uninstalling bcmwl-kernel-sources)16:29
enchoso eventually I resorted to the wired connection16:29
encho_coz are you here? .. I can't see you in the list...16:31
enchoI will most likely try your suggestion on my work PC first... coz it takes forever to coplete the download and it will go faster there16:32
chocolatewhat would you do, if you install windows in a hard disk isolated. After you place a new hard disk sda, and place the windows hard disk as sdb, and install Ubuntu. However after all it doesn't boot on windows... how would you proceed?16:35
EriC^^chocolate: what do you mean by doesnt boot on windows?16:37
EriC^^chocolate: if you put the windows disk alone it doesnt boot anymore?16:37
RahulANHello all16:41
RahulANwhat does the green color processes in htop means ? https://imgur.com/a/RfLAxHN16:42
chocolateEriC^^: uuid not found at the boot...16:59
erle-how can I check what Ubuntu version a machine was installed with?17:00
EriC^^erle-: prior to upgrading you mean?17:01
EriC^^chocolate: pastebin "sudo parted -ls"17:02
ioriaerle-, /var/log/installer/media-info17:02
erle-ioria, thanks17:05
ioriaok17:05
tchakataki know its not the place to ask but, does anyone know a good course / tutorial to go with django ?17:05
chocolatehow to recover grub after windows install?17:20
SwedeMikechocolate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows17:20
Richard_CavellI like to play computer games, but when I do my game stutters unless I close down all active applications.  Is there a way for me to tell Ubuntu 16.04 to put all other apps on freeze to free up the CPU/RAM etc?17:24
tchakatak!fixgrub | chocolate17:26
ubottuchocolate: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub217:26
pizzaburgerHello! I have a laptop with a geforce GPU. I've read that Ubuntu sometimes has issues with the drivers. Is this selection appropriate? (imgur link: https://i.imgur.com/X2oQWNB.png) Running Ubuntu 18.10. Thanks!17:32
zzero1how can I start lightdm from chroot ?17:34
tchakatakpizzaburger: you can use this one yes17:35
ikoniapizzaburger: what problem do you think you have ?17:41
ikoniazzero1: I advise you not to try to start X from within a chroot17:41
zzero1care to elaborate ikonia ?17:43
pizzaburgerikonia: I just want to make sure that I have the best option selected considering I can't differentiate between them in terms of performance17:43
zzero1I 've read about crashes17:43
zzero1but17:43
zzero1I'm on a live cd so the hell17:44
ikoniapizzaburger: if you can't differentiate, what does it matter17:44
ikoniazzero1: what is the problem you are trying to fix by chrooting ?17:44
zzero1I 'm customizing an iso image17:45
pizzaburgerikonia: If I could I wouldn't be here. And it matters because I want the best performance.17:45
zzero1https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/x2TvDZGpy2/17:46
ikoniapizzaburger: if you can't tell the difference between the performance what does it matter17:46
zzero1I've found this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/10743/what-to-do-to-run-gui-java-app-in-chrooted-environment17:47
ikoniazzero1: is that from within the chroot ?17:47
zzero1ubuntu17:47
zzero1x6417:47
ikoniazzero1: so that's a a problem if you boot - no chroot17:47
zzero1and yes I'm in ubuntu live usb17:48
ikoniazzero1: or is that the problem you get from within the chroot17:48
ikonia(just to clarify)17:48
zzero1thats the problem I get from within the chroot17:48
ikoniawhy are you doing it within a chroot17:49
ikoniawhy are you just not using ubuntu17:49
zzero1the system that I 'm chrooted in is a live iso17:49
ikoniawhy are you chrooting17:49
ikoniawhy not just boot and use the system17:50
zzero1I'm just trying to customize the iso17:50
ikoniawhy ?17:50
ikoniait feels like you're making a problem17:50
zzero1I have uncompressed the squashfs and chrooted17:50
ikoniathe ISO launches an X server17:50
ikoniawhy not use that as it auto configures it for you17:50
zzero1I'm doing something similar like this guy http://sethc23.github.io/wiki/1_POSTS/2016-03-10-modifying-linux-filesystem-and-live-cd-via-chroot/17:52
ikoniathat wasn't the question17:52
ikoniawhat's the issue with it17:52
ikoniawhy are you not using the X server that the livecd auto starts17:52
zzero1I am17:52
zzero1for the host17:53
ikoniafor the host....?17:53
ikoniawhat are you talking about17:53
zzero1I can start X applications17:53
zzero1the chroot host17:53
zzero1sorry for the confusion allow me to elaborate17:54
zzero1I'm booted via live usb and have a chroot into an other system17:54
leftyfb!enter | zzero117:54
ubottuzzero1: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.17:54
zzero1the host system is ubuntu too. Makes sense ?17:55
ikoniazzero1: what are you talking about the chroot host17:55
ikoniazzero1: there is no host an guest on a livecd17:55
zzero1yes you would be right. I'm just see more from a virtualization standpoint17:56
zzero1see it17:56
ikoniait's nothing to do with virtualisation17:58
ikoniawhat is the problem you are trying to fix17:58
courrierI'm installing an old x86 game on 18.04 (64bits), which complains  "libX11.so.6: no such file or directory" at startup. I assume it is a 32 vs 64 bits issue because /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so actually exists. How is that solvable?17:58
billybigriggerhi all i'm having issues on 18.04 with nvidia drivers, i did a software update, and it updated my nvidia-390 drivers, and now hdmi doesnt work, so i want to purge nvidia drivers and start from scratch can someone help?17:58
courrieras well as /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.617:58
ikoniacourrier: you'll need the 32bit libs too17:59
ikoniaas it will be referencing them17:59
zzero1I know that chroot is not intented for virtualization, but I pretty much is use it like it was intended for it18:04
courrierikonia: yes it's ok thanks, I missed the :i386 packages18:04
zzero1I want to customize the system and then repack it in squashfs form18:05
ikoniazzero1: what is the problem you are trying to solve18:06
zzero1ikonia question the desktop enviroment does include the desktop right ?18:08
ikoniazzero1: have you actually booted the livecd you're trying to modify ?18:08
zzero1no the system I 'm modifying (the unpacked squashfs) resides on a different drive18:09
ikoniazzero1: boot it - take a look at it, understand the product you're working with18:10
ikoniazzero1: doing this blind if you don't even know if it comes with a desktop or not is just silly18:10
zzero1ikonia modifying the system I booted is impossible correct ?18:10
prof2004hi18:11
zzero1ikonia: it should come because I took the standard ubuntu iso image and started modifying from chroot18:11
prof2004may I ask you another question ioria?18:12
ioriasure18:12
ikoniazzero1: it's held in ram18:12
ikoniazzero1: apply a little bit of logic here18:12
slidinghornThis isn't directly ubuntu related, but hoping I might be able to get an answer: In w3m, I have the "external command to display image" set to feh, but for some reason, it keeps opening my DE's image viewer instead.  Is there something I'm missing?18:13
ikoniazzero1: why are you even chrooting, you seem to be creating a problem18:13
prof2004booting up I get always the grub menue, and the boot messages from ubuntu are displayed18:13
prof2004in /etc/grub ther is one entry, do not understand: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug"18:14
ioriaprof2004, and are you sure you don't want the grub menu ?18:14
prof2004you know, if everything is ok, I do not need it.18:14
ioriaprof2004, no there is not, you remove those18:14
prof2004what did I remove?18:14
zzero1well how can I modify the standard ubuntu live iso ? It seems that you have to unpack the squashfs system do your mods and then repack it and create the iso18:14
ioriaprof2004, drm.debug=0xe plymouth:debug18:15
prof2004no, it is there18:15
ioriaprof2004, quite impossible18:15
prof2004shall I paste for you18:15
ioriaprof2004, that it was the old 'grub'18:15
ioriaprof2004, those are debug kernel parameters for intel (probably) and plymouth18:16
rexwin_E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable18:17
prof2004http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zXBYw7G3jz/18:17
rexwin_E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/18:17
rexwin_when trying to run sudo apt-get update18:17
ioriaprof2004, that is the backup of /etc/default/grub18:17
prof2004no, that is my current /etc/default/grub18:19
ioriaprof2004, so ou changed it again18:20
ioria*y18:20
rexwin_can even run root18:20
prof2004no, I was just investigating, why I am in grub menu during startup and how to hidden the boot messages18:20
ioriaprof2004, maybe i'am not clear: that it's not the 'grub' file we worked with18:21
prof2004I have nothing changed, just starting to change, when I have seen this entry18:21
prof2004you know, we have been working with the .39 image, because .42 did not work18:22
ioriaprof2004, no relation with the kernelversion18:22
prof2004oh, ok18:22
prof2004I have no clue, why it is what it is18:22
prof2004have found in ubuntuusers, that the entry should be normally "quiet splash"18:23
prof2004right?18:23
ioriaright18:24
prof2004shall I modify accordingly?18:25
ioriaprof2004, first, you should find out how a system file has been modified 8if not by you)18:27
prof2004ok, what shall I do?18:27
ioriaprof2004, i'am not aware of a piece of sw able to edit grub in that way automatically18:29
prof2004believe me, I do not really understand, what this setup means18:30
ioriaprof2004, i told you , they are debug instructions18:30
prof2004nor would I enter something like this without remembering18:30
prof2004there is the file grub.back in the folder, too, it has the same entry18:33
prof2004this file is the result of the copy, we made before modifying grub18:34
ioriaprof2004, correct, i made you backup that file and i paste for you another version18:35
ioria*ed18:35
prof2004if this is only creating of debug infos, then I should be able to restore the standard values instead18:36
prof2004I have checked the logs, and all errors I could find are known problems of ubuntu18:37
ioriaprof2004, /usr/share/grub/default/grub18:38
prof2004the log also shows, that the debug parameter have been used18:38
ioriasure18:38
prof2004I have found the file, what shall I do?18:40
ioriaprof2004, what you think ?18:41
prof2004copy and use in /etc/default/grub18:41
prof2004?18:41
ioriaprof2004, if you cp that file (/usr/share/grub/default/grub) in /etc/default, the grub file will be overwritten  then you run sudo update-grub18:43
prof2004ok18:43
billybigriggercan someone help me with my nvidia problems18:44
prof2004done18:44
billybigriggeri've tried about 10 times to install a working nvidia driver in 18.04, i had working hdmi output before an update, but it's broken now18:44
slidinghornThis isn't directly ubuntu related, but hoping I might be able to get an answer: In w3m, I have the "external command to display image" set to feh, but for some reason, it keeps opening my DE's image viewer instead.  Is there something I'm missing?18:45
prof2004ioria, shall I do a reboot?18:46
prof2004I will do a reboot, cu18:50
eeinI got a Ricoh Theta V 360 camera a couple of days ago that stopped being recognized as a device. I was able to connect it a few days ago and get some pics off. It shows as charging but nothing in lsusb or dmesg18:51
prof2004i am back again18:52
prof2004ioria, boot was as expected and very very fast :)18:53
prof2004many thanks to you for your help and patience, cu18:53
ducasseeein: can you try another usb cable to make sure it's not a charging only cable?18:54
borgdrone7Hi guys, I am trying to run Ubuntu on Lenovo X1 Yoga 1st gen (i7 6600, 16Gb RAM). It boots but whatever app I start it starts it and closes immediately. I am using Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS. Anyone knows how to solve the issue?18:56
ioriaborgdrone7, can you open a terminal ?19:05
borgdrone7ioria: no, same thing happens, it just closes19:06
borgdrone7I am now downloading 18.10 but probably it will be the same.19:07
ioriaborgdrone7, i think it's a bad install (from a bad media i mean)19:07
borgdrone7Ok, thanks, will try reinstalling19:07
ioriaborgdrone7, how do you do the stick ?19:07
borgdrone7I created bootable drive with itcher19:08
borgdrone7Etcher I mean19:08
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ioriaborgdrone7, it's ok, check the iso then19:10
borgdrone7Ok, thanks19:10
ps-axhi guys... again here..19:12
coconutIs there any recommended partition layout somewhere online?19:16
tchakatakcoconut: not really19:23
tchakatakthe minimum is / /boot swap19:23
tchakataki use / /boot /home swap19:23
tchakatakwith / /home and swap luks / lvm19:24
coconuttchakatak: because i am thinking about a new laptop, and trying to sum up the partitions for it. :)19:25
tchakatakcoconut: having a /home separated is a good thing19:28
tchakatakyou can work on other partition or having a /home between 2 or more distrib if you need.19:28
tchakatakand its also nice to dont have any user data on the /19:28
coconut:)19:30
eeinducasse, I tried that. After reseating several times it came up. Not sure what is going on. From what I understand some usb cables have shortened data pins? Maybe it isnt making contact?19:31
compdoctchakatak, is a samba share a good way to access the same /home from diff distribs?19:31
coconutI need to figure out their sizes though.19:31
eeinoh nm they miswrote is isnt shortened data pins it shorted19:33
eeinthat makes way more sense but that would make a charge only cable. I wouldn't get intermittent results if that were the case with the cable19:34
slidinghornThis isn't directly ubuntu related, but hoping I might be able to get an answer: In w3m, I have the "external command to display image" set to feh, but for some reason, it keeps opening my DE's image viewer instead.  Is there something I'm missing?19:40
ps-axguys i have a question...guide me how to set radeon as my default driver on ubuntu?19:44
ps-axi mean.. i hace read its theone which supports my amd card (radeon hd 5570)19:44
ps-axbut when i start the ubuntu it doesnt send any signal to the monitor19:45
ps-axtried nomodeset and it load.. but only for tty in ctrl + alt + F219:45
ikoniawhat do you mean by default driver19:46
ps-axand also tried with a previous kernel, it seems to runs well but when i got to puss my password it freeze the graphics19:46
ps-axi mean.. it seems like i have fglrx and radeon installed by default19:46
ikoniawhat card do you have and what is the appropriate kernel module to support it19:47
ps-axand when it starts it gimme a error like no UMS support radeon19:47
ps-axmy card is a radeon hd 557019:47
ikoniaand what is the correct kernel module to support that ?19:48
ps-axi readed that radeon free driver is the best19:48
ps-axsemms like i have installed it19:48
ps-axbut still doesnt load19:48
ikoniaok - stop making assumptions19:48
ikoniayou've installed what you think is the correct kernel module, that's a good start19:49
ps-axsorry.. its because im confused19:49
ikoniawhat kernel module is actually being loaded ?19:49
ps-axhow can i check that?19:49
ikoniaok so you don't know ?19:49
ps-axlet me google it19:49
ikoniayou need to not make statements you don't know like "it's not loading it" when you don't know if it's loaded or not19:50
IniGithi19:50
ikoniajust state the problem and people will help if they can, giving incorrect information won't help19:50
ps-axyep19:50
ps-axm,y bad sorry19:50
ioriaps-ax, for the record,fglrx it's not available anymore19:50
IniGitCan somebody tell me why does lsblk lists a different owner for a drive then nautilus>"right click on drive">properties. natilus says I am the owner and lsblk says root19:51
IniGit?19:51
ikoniaIniGit: lsblk shouldn't list an owner19:51
IniGitI executed sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,UUID,RO,RM,SIZE,STATE,OWNER,GROUP,MODE,TYPE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL,MODEL19:52
ikoniaIniGit: -o isn't a alid option19:52
ikoniaoh, I see what you mean19:53
ikoniaIniGit: that's a device owner, not a file system19:53
ikoniawhich is what nautlius shows19:53
IniGitMy problem is that my libreoffice document opens in read only on my new drive and on my desktop it opens correctly not in read only mode19:54
IniGitI thought that their may be an issue with ownership or so19:54
ikoniaIniGit: what file system is on the disk ?19:54
IniGitext419:54
IoloIs it possible to change which partition landscape-sysinfo reports the usage of, or preferrably to add more partitions to the report?19:54
IniGiton both19:54
ikoniaIniGit: I wonder if it's the tmp file being created that's the rpbolem19:55
ikoniaIniGit: or if the drive is just mounted read only19:55
ikoniatry creating a random file on it, see if it's ok with that19:55
IniGit/dev/sdf1 on /media/gernot/DataLinux type ext4 (ro,nosuid,nodev,relatime,data=ordered,uhelper=udisks2)19:56
IniGitdoes ro mean it is read only?19:57
ioriaro19:57
ikoniaIniGit: read only19:58
IniGitthx19:58
IniGitthat's weird. When I remount it via the gnome-disks it gets mounted as rw19:58
IniGitI try a restart19:59
IniGitmaybe I need an entry in fstab19:59
ikonianope19:59
ikoniayou don't19:59
IniGitwhy?20:00
IniGitMaybe it gets always mounted as ro on system startup idk20:00
ikoniawhy do you ?20:00
IniGitI will test it20:00
ikoniano it doesn't20:00
ikoniaif it's getting mounted read only by default, it has a problem20:00
IniGitok20:00
IniGitok I restarted and the drive was mounted as rw again, which is good20:06
ioriaIniGit, but check the permissions :ls -ld /media/user/<drive>20:08
IniGitSeems fine: drwxr-xr-x 5 gernot gernot 4096 Dez  9 20:09 /media/gernot/DataLinux20:11
ioriaok20:11
slidinghornThis isn't directly ubuntu related, but hoping I might be able to get an answer: In w3m, I have the "external command to display image" set to feh (i've tried 'feh', 'feh %f', and 'feh -F %f'), but for some reason, it keeps opening my DE's image viewer (or Firefox, or GIMP) instead.  Is there something I'm missing?20:12
IniGitblkid is printing nothing. blkid alone should normally priont something right?20:12
IniGitahh sudo20:12
ps-axyep guys it tries to load radeon module on the start but it gimme the following error20:13
ps-axVGACON disable radeon kernel modesetting20:14
ps-axradeon:init  Error no RMS support on radeon module20:15
ps-axUMS*20:15
ioriaps-ax,  you don't load radeon 'on the start'20:16
ioriaps-ax,  what ubuntu version and what kernel in use ?20:18
ps-axlatest ubuntu and the kernel is 4-18-0-1220:18
ioriaps-ax,  lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 999920:19
texlaHow to list startup applications in ubuntu 18.04.1 lts20:19
ioriatexla, /etc/xdg/autostart/indicator-application.desktop20:20
ioriatexla, or .config/autostart/20:20
ioriatexla, /etc/xdg/autostart/   i mean20:21
ps-axhttp://termbin.com/zlck20:22
pglewisioria: I believe you're the one who got me back to able to boot due to oibaf yesterday, so thanks a million for that20:22
ps-axthats the list of my pci hardware rght?20:22
ioriapglewis, no problem20:22
ioriaps-ax,  it's ok, ehat's the issue ?20:23
ioria+what20:23
ioriaps-ax,  sorry, ye not loaded20:23
n00balertwhere can I find an ubuntu advanced system administration and troubleshooting guide?20:23
ps-axoh20:23
ioriaps-ax,  dpkg -l | grep fglrx20:24
ps-axit tries to load an intel driver?20:24
ioriaps-ax,  it loads nothing20:24
pglewisI'm concerned that something is persisting the information about those drivers and it may attempt to update/reinstall again in the future if I'm not careful at looking at what's in the updates20:25
ioriaps-ax,  dpkg -l | grep fglrx | nc termbin.com 999920:26
ps-axshows nothing20:26
ioriaps-ax,  cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 999920:27
pglewisbackstory: I orginally installed amdgpu/oibaf from a web search as the docs matched my system and card and I figured it was worth a try to see if there was better performance.  I couldn't boot after install but managed to get things back via recovery mode and (I thought) remove that stuff20:27
pglewisin my defense, the docs for amdgpu mention an uninstall file that does not exist20:28
ioriapglewis, not if you removed the source20:28
ioriapglewis, you mean amdgpu-pro ?20:29
pglewischecking software and updates in other software, file:/var/opt/amdgpu-pro-local is listed20:29
pglewisif I remove that it just returns20:29
ps-axhttp://termbin.com/qft320:29
pglewisand I'm out of my wheelhouse here20:29
ioriapglewis, no good, why do you have oibaf and amdgpu-pro at the sametime ?20:29
ioriapglewis, they are alternatives20:30
pglewismost likely following internet "advice" from web searches, this was intially done a few weeks back20:30
pglewisembarassingly I can't quite recall the full steps that got me there20:30
ioriapglewis, dpkg -l | grep amdgpu20:30
pglewisbut I thought I'd wiped it and things were peachy for a few weeks20:31
ioriaps-ax,  is that a fresh install of 18.10 ?20:32
ps-axyep20:32
ps-axindeed it never loaded after the install xD20:32
pglewishttp://termbin.com/hatj20:32
ioriaps-ax,  redwood 5770 is supported in 18.10 by radeon20:33
ps-axyep20:34
ps-axand i have followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver20:34
ioriaps-ax,  cat /proc/cmdline20:35
ps-axok20:35
pglewisalso, as a refresher, I've done the following regarding oibaf:20:35
pglewissudo ppa-purge ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers20:35
pglewissudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers20:35
ioriapglewis, it's ok... what's the problem now ?20:36
ps-axhttp://termbin.com/iz3o20:36
ioriaps-ax, did you boot with nomodeset ?20:37
pglewisMy concern is that apparently on Friday the software updates brought oibaf back from the dead.  I was juggling 6 tasks at the time and am used to just hitting the "go" button and minimizing so did not study the list20:37
ps-axthe nomodeset was setted by me on the grub20:37
ps-axotherwise it doesnt sent a signal to thew monitor20:37
ioriaps-ax, what happens if you boot without it ?20:37
pglewisI was actually in the process of a software release of my own lol, I chose not to reboot at that time, I chose wisely20:37
ioriai see20:37
ioriaps-ax, maybe it's too old that card20:37
ps-ax:<20:38
ps-axmaybe with other old kernel20:38
ioriaps-ax, you can try dri  false in a custom xrog.conf20:38
ioria*xorg20:38
ps-axdri false?20:39
ps-axgotta google about it20:39
ioriaps-ax, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI20:40
OerHeksps-ax, for that "Radeon HD 5550/5570/5630/6510/6610/7570"   the standard radeon driver should be fine, without nomodeset20:42
ioriaOerHeks, looks like it's not20:43
pglewisSo given my ignorance on what I've done and the fact that oibaf has come back once after thinking I'd removed it, I want to understand how and why that happend and avoid a repeat.  Wasn't how I wanted to spend my Saturday20:43
zzero1ioria: do you happen to know why the xubuntu user is not listed in the /etc/passwd (live iso) ?20:43
ioriazzero1, sorry, nope20:44
zzero1my best guess is that is created on boot every time20:46
ioriaps-ax, that is for intel ,to be honest, but you can try  :   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and put in it this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YM78HBFRqj/20:47
zzero1because I tried to use systemd-nspawn and cannot login20:47
slidinghornThis isn't directly ubuntu related, but hoping I might be able to get an answer: In w3m, I have the "external command to display image" set to feh (i've tried 'feh', 'feh %f', and 'feh -F %f'), but for some reason, it keeps opening my DE's image viewer (or Firefox, or GIMP) instead.  Is there something I'm missing?20:48
eeinOK so something seems to be wrong with the mounting of devices with this computer. I bring it to another ubuntu install and everything mounts fine. If I reboot this problematic laptop into windows it mounts fine there21:10
core7what is a good ppa to get updated git for 16.04 LTS?21:10
core7got it -> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:git-core/ppa21:13
core7thanks21:13
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eeindoes anyone know what handles mounting on 16.0421:19
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OerHeksmount, and fstab21:22
eeinI doubt it is fstab. doesnt that just hold configs for fix mounted devices?21:24
OerHekswhat device does not mount, exactly?21:25
OerHekswith what filesystem21:25
eeinMy Google Pixel 2 XL never prompts in the notification to allow USB transfer it only charges. My Ricoh Theta V 360 camera sometimes mounts sometimes just charges21:26
eein^notification on the phone21:26
eeinthose are all different cables. USB to USB C for the Pixel and microUSB for the Theta21:27
OerHeksthose devices need to be turned on/off the lockscreen to automount, yes21:27
eeintake it to another Ubuntu 16.04 box and they all mount no problem with the same cables21:27
OerHeksbut you say 'problematic laptop' ..21:27
OerHeksmaybe it works with adapter, not just on battery21:28
eeinwhat I mean is it isn;t hardware of the laptop. If I dual boot back to Windows it works fine21:28
eeinjust this 16.04 install is the problem21:28
eeinagain same equipment on another OS or same cables on another 16.04 works flawlessly21:29
eeinjust this install it wont work21:29
craigbass76Is there a way to use openvpn without a certificate? A fellow trying to let me into his only uses a username and pass. I can't even get the save button to light up unless I'm using a certificate.21:30
craigbass76^^ in the edit connection window I mean21:30
OerHekscraigbass76, as you already found out: no. you *can* make a non-encrypted tunnel, see https://forums.openvpn.net/viewtopic.php?t=2422421:34
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tchakatakfor the users of xautolock, how do you make it detect while you have an app running in fullscreen (like a youtube or a netflix video) and dont want to trigger the timer ?21:41
ducassetchakatak: aiui the program that plays the video should set a flag that prevents the idle timer from counting down21:48
computa_mikeTrying to rip an Audio CD to MP3 - I have the ugly codecs installed, but rhythmbox keeps erroring saying 'can't use encoding audio/mpeg due to missing plugins'21:52
computa_mikeI have been able to rip to OGG - but my car won't play them, so I need to rip to MP321:53
kk4ewtcomputa_mike, so ripping audo cd which was likely mp3 to mp3 can be crappy21:58
OerHekscomputa_mike, i use asunder, but carefull, disable ogg in the settings and turn mp3 on21:58
kk4ewtlossy to lossy21:58
OerHeksugly codec = lame ?21:59
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TheWildhello22:05
OerHekshi TheWild22:06
TheWildsay, apt does not serve. Do you have any hints of how to properly look around http://archive.ubuntu.com/ ?22:06
[rg]hey all, is there a way for me to maintain a list of packages (repo) and install them all? or do I just have to make that list myself and make a script to install all the packages?22:12
Krematorfolks, is there an repo or an "official" way of upgrading to a newer kernel in buntus?22:28
Krematori mean, to a newer one than the one setup'd at the "feature freeze  release"22:28
Krematorbecause i have 18.04 but im still on 4.15 and i would like to try 4.19 or 4.20 kernels22:29
vlt[rg]: `dpkg --get-selections` (and then later --set-selections to restore)22:37
[rg]vlt: will that show manually installed packages?22:38
OerHeksKremator, not sure HWE gives that upgrade path, and or .19 / .20 available, 20 is in RC you know22:40
OerHeks!hwe22:40
ubottuThe Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack22:40
OerHekselse install manually the mainline repo22:40
OerHeks!mainline22:40
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds22:40
sappheirosplease help me resolve this bug: i reported the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qpdfview/+bug/180762122:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1807621 in qpdfview (Ubuntu) "missing icon theme and segmentation fault trying to open qpdfview" [Undecided,New]22:45
ikoniasappheiros: how do we resolve it ?22:46
ikonia!infro qpdfview22:50
ikonia!info qpdfview22:50
ubottuqpdfview (source: qpdfview): tabbed document viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.14-1build1 (bionic), package size 346 kB, installed size 1225 kB22:50
ikonia!info qpdfview cosmic22:50
ubottuqpdfview (source: qpdfview): tabbed document viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.17~beta1+git20180514-1 (cosmic), package size 383 kB, installed size 1331 kB22:50
vlt[rg]: Yes.22:52
[rg]vlt: thanks so much, I can script this now22:53
Yukkurihi, i am having a bit broken liveusb with ubuntu, where i can boot in GUI, setup network and make a chroot (if needed). Given that, can i get a non-broken version of ubuntu installer (via deb packages and custom repo maybe) in a chroot?23:13
vltYukkuri: Just use your slightly broken system to download the clean iso image and write that to a USB device.23:20
jmaderohi all - I'm having a nightmare time with basic samba setup, my system is spitting out this error when I try to mount a samba share: mount error(2): No such file or directory23:23
jmaderolol I'm an idiot, scratch that23:24
a1Cypherhey folks.  I recently updated a machine from 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS.  Everything went smoothly but now I am having problems with samba.  My windows machine will not connect and says the password/user is wrong.   SMB is running and I am able to connect to it from other linux machines using smbclient and the expected username/passwod.23:31

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