[00:00] <kinghat> how do you get grub to show at boot?
[00:02] <kinghat> would it not have been installed?
[00:04] <kinghat> I don't get grub when I boot up.
[00:08] <kinghat> left shift or ESC doesn't work.
[00:09] <kinghat> hmm not installed. is grub not being installed by default normal?
[00:11] <teward> kinghat: no it's not normal.
[00:12] <teward> and had there been a grub installation failure it probably would've said so in the logs as a failure to install
[00:13] <kinghat> so is my system borked?
[00:51] <kinghat> looks like grub is installed but i just cant get it to show up for some reason: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/046574cb/
[00:51] <kinghat> is it the ESC or left SHIFT or something like that?
[00:57] <kinghat> lol that's the grub i get. no keys do anything https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/cGioOJe6/irccloudcapture2268390190753378140.jpg
[02:50] <Ouyes> hey guys,  the memory usage is going higher and higher on my server, both the ram and swap, is this indicating a memory leakage?
[03:22] <qman__> not directly, no
[03:23] <qman__> it means you're using more resources, which could have any number of causes including normal activity
[03:54] <kinghat> ikonia: you still around?
[04:04] <OerHeks> odd, first you stated grub was borked visable on your system..
[04:07] <kinghat> ya
[04:08] <kinghat> not sure why. maybe it was the monitor? i started a live usb to see if i could run boot-repair, and did, but that didnt fix it. so i figured i could use the live usb to alter the sudoers file, which worked.
[07:12] <MJCD> heya
[07:12] <MJCD> I have never set up or run a mailserver before
[07:12] <MJCD> but want to do so for a new site, hosted locally
[07:12] <MJCD> what's the easiest method of doing so :)
[07:39] <ducasse> MJCD: postfix, plus dovecot for pop3/imap. see the ubuntu wiki, there's an article on setting up postfix.
[07:40] <MJCD> ducasse, someone else just recommended in terms of management postfixadmin
[07:40] <ducasse> MJCD: i've not used that myself, so can't comment - sorry
[07:41] <ducasse> MJCD: you should do a bit of research and reading, running a mailserver is not for the faint of heart or newbies (not saying you're either)
[07:42] <MJCD> I'm a newb at mail servers
[07:42] <MJCD> but network admin and programmer of 20 years
[07:42] <MJCD> I
[07:42] <MJCD> should be able to figure something basic out haha
[07:42] <MJCD> I mainly want a gui
[07:42] <MJCD> because i'm a gui-guy
[07:43] <ducasse> i can't help with that, i just use ssh and vim :)
[07:44] <MJCD> haha grooooosss ;p
[07:44] <MJCD> I want a puppet gui too
[07:45] <MJCD> manage network SOE graphically
[07:46] <ducasse> there's also #postfix if you run into problems
[08:17] <MJCD> appreciated
[08:17] <MJCD> thanks for your time
[09:16] <jamespage> o/
[09:35] <die7> somehow ntp settings in preseed file are ignored
[09:35] <die7> # Time zone config
[09:35] <die7> d-i time/zone string Etc/UTC
[09:35] <die7> d-i clock-setup/utc boolean true
[09:35] <die7> d-i clock-setup/ntp boolean true
[09:35] <die7> d-i clock-setup/ntp-server string myserver.com
[09:42] <oskie> hello, trying to set up md/LVM on boot disk during Bionic server installation, but the partitioner menu doesn't allow me to continue
[09:42] <oskie> is it even possible?
[10:02] <bipul> Hi , I'm facing Network issue while running Ubuntu-server 18.04 in bridge mode in VirtualBox. Does anyone know how to resolve this?
[10:02] <bipul> die7, Which ubuntu server are you installing via preseed method?
[10:11] <die7> bipul: 16.04
[10:11] <bipul> die7, Are you modifying the .iso file?
[10:13] <die7> bipul: no, using cobbler
[10:13] <bipul> cobbler?
[10:14] <die7> bipul: yepp, using cobbler for automated system deployment, using cobbler and preseed file
[10:15] <bipul> Link please?
[10:15] <die7> bipul: what you mean with link?
[11:09] <ahasenack> good morning
[12:09] <kstenerud> Can anyone help setting up sbuild? I'm following the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild but I get stuck on step 10: mk-sbuild bionic
[12:09] <kstenerud> E: 10mount: mount: /run/schroot/mount/bionic-amd64-68f38ca0-4bcb-49c5-846c-c658ada8421e/scratch: special device /home/karl/schroot/scratch does not exist.
[12:09] <kstenerud> E: bionic-amd64-68f38ca0-4bcb-49c5-846c-c658ada8421e: Chroot setup failed: stage=setup-start
[12:14] <ahasenack> kstenerud: not that I have seen that error before, but are you doing this in an lxd?
[12:15] <kstenerud> yes
[12:15] <ahasenack> maybe apparmor is denying something
[12:15] <kstenerud> hmm strange... I've made the container privileged
[13:26] <ahasenack> kstenerud: rbasak hi, what's up with https://code.launchpad.net/~kstenerud/ubuntu/+source/at/+git/at/+merge/358655, does it need sponsoring or is it stuck somewhere?
[13:36] <ahasenack> rbasak: what should the merge state of this mp be: https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/symfony/+git/symfony/+merge/359137
[13:36] <ahasenack> rbasak: because since then, it became a sync
[13:37] <ahasenack> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/symfony/+publishinghistory
[13:37] <ahasenack> so it was merged at that time, but now?
[13:41] <ahasenack> kstenerud: rbasak: are you guys around?
[13:42] <kstenerud> yes
[13:43] <kstenerud> I think it just needs sponsoring
[13:43] <ahasenack> kstenerud: I have the above question about at, and bug #1606331 where rbasak asked a question about a fix for tomcat you did and I sponsored in november
[14:56] <oskie> it is 2018 (almost 2019). do we need a separate swap partition still
[15:02] <cpaelzer> umm, do we have any php7.2 on trusty?
[15:02] <cpaelzer> rbasak: ahasenack: kstenerud: ^^ ?
[15:02] <cpaelzer> I didn#t think so
[15:07] <kstenerud> not sure a ctually
[15:07] <cpaelzer> there is none (as I expected) according to my checks
[15:07] <cpaelzer> just wondereing as I hada  bug on triage with apache mod 7.2+5 breaking when both enabled on trusty
[15:11] <nacc> cpaelzer: that's a bogus bug
[15:11] <nacc> they eitehr are running ondrej's ppa
[15:11] <nacc> cpaelzer: or they have hacked their system together
[15:11] <nacc> pretty sure i know which one you mean
[15:12] <nacc> L: #1807484 ?
[15:12] <nacc> LP: #1807484 ?
[15:13] <cpaelzer> yep
[15:13] <cpaelzer> nacc: hiho btw
[15:13] <cpaelzer> yeah such a ppa would be my assumption as well
[15:13] <nacc> cpaelzer: hi! :) and yeah
[15:41] <teward> cpaelzer: bet you $10 that it's using Ondrej's PPA
[15:41] <teward> also good morning to all
[15:45] <cpaelzer> hiho teward
[15:46] <cpaelzer> the problem is no one is betting against it
[15:47] <teward> cpaelzer: which means I:InstantWin :P
[15:48] <teward> ... now if only the systme would stop yeling to me about nginx being stuck in proposed because IT'S PERL'S FAULT I'd be able to focus on things like trying to help with backports' queues >.<
[16:21] <kinghat> so after i mistakenly removed my only user from the sudoers group, i was able to statically set it via visudo by sshing into the machine by using a live boot in root mode. now that i have added the user back to the sudo group can i remove the user from the static line in sudoers?
[16:22] <nacc> kinghat: now that you know how to fix it, test it and try? seems like that should be fine, presuming you did it right :)
[16:24] <kinghat> also, there is a group in the sudoers file called admin. it has less privs than the sudo group so a user doesnt need to be a part of admin if they are already part of sudo?
[16:25] <mason> teward: The only problem with Perl is that not enough people understand its pure, unadulterated goodness!
[16:25] <nacc> kinghat: did you read the corresponding comment?
[16:25] <teward> mason: no, actually, it's because perl works with everything and things'll explode if you aren't careful in version bumps
[16:25] <teward> so it's not autoreleased from proposed :P
[16:26] <mason> teward: Is that a Perl issue or a CPAN issue?
[16:26] <teward> neither.
[16:26] <kinghat> nacc: your comment? or is there a comment you are referring to in the sudoers file?
[16:26] <nacc> kinghat: in the sudoers file by default
[16:26] <teward> mason: too complex to explain here, at least not with the time I have.
[16:27] <mason> teward: Alright. My personal experience is that base Perl is wonderfully backwards-compatible, and that it's when you start pulling in random other bits that the whole tower becomes unstable.
[16:27] <kinghat> "# Members of the admin group may gain root privileges"?
[16:28] <nacc> kinghat: right
[16:31] <kinghat> may?
[16:31] <kinghat> "# Allow members of group sudo to execute any command" for sudo.
[16:33] <Ussat> does Ubuntu server have anything like :  authconfig --enablekrb5 --enablekrb5kdcdns --enablekrb5realmdns --update . this configures kerberos to use t=whats already in krb5.cong without a gui
[16:36] <ahasenack> rbasak: can you perhaps sponsor this? https://code.launchpad.net/~kstenerud/ubuntu/+source/at/+git/at/+merge/358655
[16:36] <ahasenack> since you approved it
[16:52] <rbasak> OK
[17:11] <sarnold> no doubt if you write your perl like it's 5.004 then things will just work for decades
[17:15] <teward> sarnold: so then all you have to worry about is {InsertOpenSSLChangesHere} :P
[17:15] <teward> and it explodes everything xD
[17:16] <mason> sarnold: Don't give away my secret.
[17:34] <sarnold> teward: but when that ssl 0.9 client connects, it'll Just Work! :D
[17:34] <sarnold> mason: hehehe
[17:34] <teward> sarnold: lol.
[17:34] <mason> sarnold: SSLeay please. Let's not get all postmodern.
[17:35] <teward> sarnold: is that before or after the server disables TLS1, 1.1, and 1.2 in favor of TLs 1.3 + Modern ciphers LOL
[17:35] <teward> the server the scripts connect to*
[17:37] <sarnold> mason: lol ssleay.. man..
[19:03] <Angryele> Hey don't suppose anyone can give me a hand? Running Ubuntu Server 18.04.1 LTS having dpkg issues while installing mysql
[19:05] <teward> Angryele: what issues specifically?
[19:08] <Angryele> I'm trying to figure out the main problem, when I sudo apt-get install mysql-server I get  this error http://prntscr.com/lt7vz7    dpkg dependency, sub process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[19:08] <sarnold> scrollup
[19:09] <sarnold> the first error is probably higher up the terminal
[19:10] <teward> sarnold: it's in the screenshot - configure-symlinks: no such file or dir
[19:11] <sarnold> teward: but *why* didn't mysql-common unpack correctly?
[19:12] <Angryele> http://prntscr.com/lt7y6n  entire thing incase you wanted it
[19:12] <sarnold> dang
[19:12] <sarnold> apt-get purge all the mysql packages and try again?
[19:13] <Angryele> Yeah done that before but I'll show you that message if its different
[19:14] <Angryele> Tried updating/upgrading everything before  and when I try apt purge mysql "E: Unable to locate package mysql"
[19:16] <TJ-> Angryele: did you confirm mysql-common was correctly installed?
[19:17] <Angryele> No have not
[19:19] <TJ-> Angryele: that's the package the contains the file that is apparently missing, so I'd "sudo apt --reinstall install mysql-common" first to ensure that is good
[19:21] <Angryele> http://prntscr.com/lt82n2  Full error I got
[19:21] <nacc> uh, not using ubuntu packages
[19:23] <nacc> Angryele: you are using mariadb's packages and mixing them with the ubuntu ones
[19:24] <TJ-> nacc: nicely spotted
[19:24] <Angryele> I might of actually, been stuck on this problem for a good couple of hours so might of done that once is one of the google search fixes
[19:25] <nacc> TJ-: it's probably the number one user error in this channel :)
[19:28] <Angryele> Whats the recommended fix? Have a mediocre amount of skill, doing this on my friends request as he wants to transition from windows server to ubuntu server but promptly fainted seeing the "all terminal" interface
[19:28] <nacc> Angryele: remove that repository and all packages from it
[19:33] <Angryele> Ok now I remembered what happened. Was going through old stuff was installing the pterodactyl game panel I must of installed mariaDB there. Thanks Nacc!