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| duflu | tjaalton, oh! the new package will also fix GLX (https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/54ac09717cd8c49259f53a4a227d903ebe8e0a32) | 06:52 |
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| duflu | Because: PKG_CHECK_MODULES(WAYLAND_EGLSTREAM, [wayland-eglstream-protocols >= 1.0.2] | 06:53 |
| tjaalton | duflu: cool | 06:58 |
| duflu | tjaalton, which leaves only a kernel bug in the nvidia driver (it likes to make the kernel eat a whole core's worth of CPU) | 07:02 |
| duflu | Apparently within the application thread, since the two add up to 100% | 07:02 |
| tjaalton | oh that one | 07:36 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:56 |
| duflu | Hi oSoMoN | 08:00 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 08:00 |
| duflu | tjaalton, I was about to report a bug unless you have one? | 08:00 |
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| oSoMoN | ricotz, good morning, I'll handle firefox 65.0b4 build1, unless you're already on the case? | 08:04 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, I will do it | 08:05 |
| oSoMoN | as you wish | 08:05 |
| tjaalton | duflu: hmm no I was wrong, there used to be a bug which ate ram, not cpu | 08:06 |
| acheronuk | oSoMoN: hi. do you happen to have the libreoffice s390x test fails on your radar? | 08:11 |
| oSoMoN | acheronuk, I didn't, but I'll look at that | 08:12 |
| acheronuk | oSoMoN: thanks. will block via dep tree quite a few KDE things, plus some gtk/gnome desktop things I think | 08:15 |
| didrocks | good morning | 08:17 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks | 08:20 |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 08:20 |
| duflu | tjaalton, my work here is done: bug 1808108 | 08:21 |
| ubot5 | bug 1808108 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-410 (Ubuntu) "nvidia-drm.modeset=1 incurs very high CPU usage in [kworker/u16:1+events_unbound]" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1808108 | 08:21 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 08:24 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN, ça va ? | 08:26 |
| oSoMoN | enrhumé, mais ça va | 08:27 |
| oSoMoN | et toi? | 08:27 |
| didrocks | ça va, pas enrhumé, mais il fait bien frisquet là… | 08:27 |
| didrocks | duflu: I think you should change the status back so that it's taken into account (re: g-s SRU bug) | 08:28 |
| didrocks | and maybe ping bdmurray | 08:28 |
| duflu | didrocks, done. But if it causes more argument then I abstain. We still have yet to even get the mutter fix into disco | 08:39 |
| didrocks | duflu: well, I think changing the status was what created the argument, if it was just one comment mention and not dramatized, we wouldn't get into that situation | 08:42 |
| didrocks | let's see | 08:42 |
| duflu | also 'rls-cc-notfixing' sounds wrong | 08:43 |
| duflu | It's a regression and we're going to fix it anyway | 08:43 |
| didrocks | I guess it's just to remove from the tracking list, but yeah, the tags is misleading | 08:43 |
| Laney | yo | 09:02 |
| willcooke | morning | 09:03 |
| duflu | o/ Laney willcooke | 09:03 |
| duflu | (not to scale) | 09:04 |
| Laney | what's being dramatised? | 09:04 |
| Laney | hi duflu | 09:04 |
| duflu | Laney, waving at a distance | 09:04 |
| didrocks | hey Laney, willcooke | 09:05 |
| Laney | hey didrocks | 09:07 |
| Laney | how you doin'? | 09:08 |
| seb128 | good morning (from the train) desktopers | 09:09 |
| didrocks | Laney: freezing, just lost 10°C in a day :p | 09:09 |
| didrocks | you? | 09:09 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 09:09 |
| oSoMoN | good morning seb128 | 09:09 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks oSoMoN | 09:09 |
| seb128 | hey Laney willcooke | 09:09 |
| oSoMoN | hey Laney, willcooke | 09:09 |
| seb128 | didrocks, so it's only 25°C now in the south? :p | 09:10 |
| * seb128 hides | 09:10 | |
| Laney | brrrrrrrrrrr, just checked the weather for didrocks | 09:11 |
| didrocks | sureeeeeee, I might need to put a T-Shirt now! scandalous :p | 09:11 |
| Laney | it is actually cold | 09:11 |
| * Laney brings a hot water bottle | 09:11 | |
| Laney | hey seb128 oSoMoN | 09:11 |
| didrocks | hot chocolate time! | 09:11 |
| Laney | just watching the govt fall apart a bit more here... | 09:11 |
| willcooke | /o\ | 09:11 |
| didrocks | Laney: that as well is better with a warm chocolate :) | 09:11 |
| * Laney has a nice hot cup of tea | 09:12 | |
| Laney | that's what duty requires of me | 09:12 |
| didrocks | heh | 09:12 |
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| Laney | need to retweet that tweet from Cameron | 09:15 |
| === seb128_ is now known as seb128 | ||
| seb128_ | why a country with no hill or mountain has those tunnels?! | 09:25 |
| didrocks | heh | 09:28 |
| seb128_ | ok, going to change train so close laptop for a bit, bbl | 09:34 |
| andyrock | morning! | 09:59 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock, how are you? | 09:59 |
| seb128 | oh btw did you end up looking at Sarah's problem with will? | 09:59 |
| willcooke | hey andyrock | 09:59 |
| andyrock | hey seb128 ! it looks like it is a driver issue | 10:00 |
| seb128 | on intel? | 10:01 |
| andyrock | seb128: the journal was filled of "video bus: device removed" messages when the problem shows up | 10:01 |
| andyrock | seb128: yep | 10:01 |
| andyrock | seb128: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/MRgtMY5DRt/ | 10:01 |
| seb128 | :/ | 10:01 |
| seb128 | did you check with Timo or looked upstream if that's a known issue? | 10:02 |
| andyrock | something we need to look into but nothing I could fix/debug in few hours | 10:02 |
| andyrock | I was planning to ask Timo today | 10:02 |
| seb128 | k | 10:02 |
| andyrock | yesterday night I replaced the palmrest of my laptop \o/ | 10:03 |
| andyrock | now I got a US keyboard | 10:03 |
| willcooke | Sarah has a work around which she's happy with for now. Thanks for the help andyrock | 10:05 |
| willcooke | I didnt get home until 2am last night. The train I was going to get was cancelled, and then someone was "taken ill" and they cancelled a load of other trains. Sat on the station for 2 hours in the cold. :( | 10:06 |
| seb128 | :( | 10:09 |
| seb128 | what's the workaround? (being curious/it can be useful for other users) | 10:10 |
| willcooke | ctrl-alt-f1, ctrl-alt-f2 | 10:13 |
| willcooke | :) | 10:13 |
| seb128 | lol | 10:14 |
| seb128 | k, another train with lunch at the station, bbl | 11:02 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, the train hopper | 11:21 |
| oSoMoN | acheronuk, for tracking purposes, I filed bug #1808147 (and I'm actively looking into fixing it) | 12:00 |
| ubot5 | bug 1808147 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "autopkgtests fail on s390x" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1808147 | 12:00 |
| acheronuk | oSoMoN: thank you :) | 12:00 |
| andyrock | willcooke: can you create the post for the next week team updates? | 12:39 |
| willcooke | oops | 12:41 |
| willcooke | andyrock, done: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/monday-17th-december-2018/9081 | 12:43 |
| willcooke | thanks for the reminder | 12:43 |
| andyrock | danke | 12:43 |
| * andyrock finally found a nice place to work from with good wifi, vibe, coffee and food | 13:18 | |
| seb128 | nice! | 13:18 |
| Laney | :3 | 13:25 |
| jbicha | seb128: I happened to see your comment on bug 1798861 maybe it's good to mention those comments here also (or somewhere) since I get a lot of bugmail | 14:18 |
| ubot5 | bug 1798861 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Tooltips flicker constantly in GTK3 applications" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798861 | 14:18 |
| seb128 | jbicha, hey, ok, noted | 14:19 |
| willcooke | oSoMoN, forgot to say yesterday, no problems with n-m yesteday at all | 16:26 |
| oSoMoN | willcooke, excellent, thanks! should we go ahead with SRUing n-m 1.10.14 to bionic? | 16:27 |
| oSoMoN | get it into bionic-proposed and get some more testing by a wider audience | 16:27 |
| willcooke | yeah, lets go to proposed. I think seb might have had some other updates which were waiting to get that one out, so sync with him when he's back, but yeah, proposed would be good | 16:29 |
| willcooke | we can leave it there for a while to be double sure | 16:29 |
| willcooke | if needed | 16:29 |
| oSoMoN | ok, I'll talk to Seb when he's around | 16:30 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, willcooke's feedback on n-m 1.10.14 in bionic is positive, wdyt of going ahead and pushing it to bionic-proposed to get it tested by a wider audience? | 17:01 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, if someone wants to do that, sure | 17:02 |
| seb128 | I'm out of that one though | 17:02 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, that's not going to conflict with other staged n-m SRUs ? | 17:03 |
| seb128 | I think it's too much change/going to be tricky to validate and get regression free, but if someone feels like trying I'm not going to stop them | 17:03 |
| seb128 | no | 17:03 |
| seb128 | I had planned to SRU .10 as a first round, but didn't get to it yet | 17:03 |
| seb128 | and if we are people more ambitious I don't want to be in the way | 17:03 |
| seb128 | n-m doesn't have a standing expection though | 17:03 |
| seb128 | so we need test cases for several of the issues that are reported in launchpad/fixed and proper detailled of all the changes between our version and the one SRUed | 17:04 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, I'm in no rush to get that done, so SRUing .10 first seems like a reasonable thing to do | 17:04 |
| seb128 | well, it sounded like you have the newest version ready | 17:05 |
| seb128 | you should probably go for it then | 17:05 |
| oSoMoN | also, I don't have a personal interest in it, just trying to move forward that bug, but it might not be worth it overall | 17:05 |
| seb128 | I can help you listing launchpad bugs that are fixed/need to be documented in the changelog if you want | 17:05 |
| seb128 | well, we had the discussion before | 17:05 |
| seb128 | I personnally think it's a big chunk and it makes it risky | 17:05 |
| oSoMoN | agreed, it's risky | 17:06 |
| seb128 | but I tend to be quite conservative which has downsides | 17:06 |
| oSoMoN | being conservative with an LTS doesn't sound bad | 17:06 |
| Laney | missing out on most of these fixes https://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/tree/NEWS?h=1.10.14 doesn't feel that great to me | 17:11 |
| Laney | but not interested in rehashing the old debate | 17:11 |
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| seb128 | shrug | 17:15 |
| seb128 | I'm going to say it one time I then I stop, if someone who is better than me at understanding n-m and how to test it properly feel confident doing that SRU please step up and do it | 17:16 |
| seb128 | I'm just not that person | 17:16 |
| seb128 | I'm not stopping anyone from doing it | 17:16 |
| seb128 | and yeah, in an ideal world we land the new cool upstream versions and there is never any regressions and we can party and be happy :) | 17:17 |
| Laney | all those party worthy CVE fixes | 17:19 |
| seb128 | Laney, I'm unsure what you are aiming at here? My statement is that I only feel confident doing a SRU I can understand and that I would go to .10 (or maybe .12) so I propose doing that if it helps | 17:19 |
| seb128 | Laney, telling me that I'm a chicken for not wanting to SRU more isn't helping | 17:19 |
| Laney | not sure that's what happened | 17:19 |
| seb128 | k, I don't understand where you try to get then | 17:19 |
| Laney | putting the other side, is that not allowed? | 17:20 |
| seb128 | sorry, maybe you can reformulate on what you were suggesting doing? | 17:20 |
| Laney | you stated what you think are the downsides and then I responded with a link to what we would miss out on by not doing it | 17:20 |
| Laney | don't really see the confrontation here, :/ | 17:20 |
| seb128 | k, sorry I didn't meant to say there were downside | 17:20 |
| seb128 | I meant that I didn't feel confident being the one landing those big changes because I don't understand n-m (and IPv6 in particular) enough | 17:21 |
| seb128 | I guess then we need to keep looking for someone who is? | 17:21 |
| seb128 | which might be oSoMoN then? :) | 17:22 |
| Laney | I thought oSoMoN was basically going nto do it | 17:22 |
| seb128 | +1 from me | 17:22 |
| seb128 | I said earlier he should go for it if he feels like doing it | 17:22 |
| Laney | k | 17:23 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, do you just basically need a sponsor? | 17:23 |
| seb128 | (poor Olivier, chromium & firefox & libreoffice and now we land a tricky n-m SRU on you :/) | 17:24 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, Laney, do you want to work together to land that one? | 17:24 |
| Laney | can do sponsoring if that's needed | 17:29 |
| seb128 | thx | 17:29 |
| seb128 | I can help with listing bugs to include in the changelog and making them SRU compliant, at least for those where I understand the issue/how to test it | 17:30 |
| Laney | is in ubuntu-desktop though so should be good | 17:31 |
| seb128 | ah, right, Olivier has the power :) | 17:31 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, k, up to you, if you feel like doing it I would suggest we upload before holidays and let it in proposed at least over holidays | 17:32 |
| oSoMoN | I can do that one, but don't be misleaded into thinking that I understand n-m, because I don't | 17:44 |
| oSoMoN | your suggestion makes sense | 17:44 |
| Laney | nobody does, it's one of our ongoing problems | 17:46 |
| Laney | that can work both ways though - if we want to ask upstream for help on issues, it's better to be closer to their current releases | 17:46 |
| Laney | on the other hand we'd be less well placed to actually fix things | 17:46 |
| seb128 | they updated only to .12 in fedora, I wonder if there is a specific reason, we should maybe ask them (thomas is upstream/the one updating there) | 17:48 |
| willcooke | k, gotta go - l8r all | 18:28 |
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