| Avion | slidinghorn: the response to lsblk doesnt tell me that | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| slidinghorn | Avion, try parted /dev/sd* 'print' (where "*" is the drive letter - sda, sdb, etc) | 00:01 |
| TJ- | Avion: "sudo blkid" will include info on the file-system type | 00:01 |
| TJ- | Avion: or "lsblk -f" will do the same | 00:01 |
| Avion | slidinghorn: rescue mode said I had to do it manually and some other think said I had to donit from usb. thats where I am now. | 00:02 |
| Avion | slidinghorn: this tecmint page looks like I could have done it from recovery | 00:03 |
| slidinghorn | Avion, Well let's just continue from USB, since that's where we're at now. Both TJ-'s suggestion and my own will give you the information you need | 00:04 |
| Avion | TJ-: blkid was perfect. i knew I installed it at the end of the drive. (to start, way back, I used windows to divide the rest of drive in 8 partitions so I could experiment with different distros. ✓ | 00:06 |
| Avion | TJ-: fsck -Nc /dev/sbd1 - that didnt work. i am lost | 00:14 |
| TJ- | Avion: what type is the file-system, and what way 'didn't work' | 00:16 |
| Avion | TJ-: oops mistyped. fixed. it says: there are differences between boot sector and its backup. this is mostly harmless. -- now gives me three choices: copy original to backup or copy backup to original or no action | 00:20 |
| Avion | TJ- oh, lsblk -f was more helpful. my filesystem is actually sda6 | 00:26 |
| TJ- | Avion: what program are you using that reports that? Generally there is no backup of a boot sector unless a tool has previously been used to create one | 00:26 |
| Avion | TJ-: my bad, i was checking the flash drive. found the right partition. fixed it. it is booting. (inpostednto reddit and hadnt tried recovery and what i showed reddit was the wrong thing to show them. - today I tried recovery and that led me on this successful path.) THANK YOU and slidinghorn | 00:29 |
| xdruppi | is it possible to change my bios time through ubuntu? | 00:44 |
| xdruppi | is there any command line program for that? | 00:45 |
| xdruppi | i just want my date and time to be synced | 00:46 |
| OerHeks | hwclock --systohc and hwclock -hctosys | 00:47 |
| OerHeks | https://www.thegeekstuff.com/2013/08/hwclock-examples/ | 00:48 |
| bray9082_ | Is there an easy way to move an ubuntu install to a new hard drive? | 00:48 |
| xdruppi | thanks OerHeks | 00:49 |
| bray9082_ | Could I just copy the files from one drive to another then update fstab? | 00:50 |
| slidinghorn | bray9082_, See if this helps: https://askubuntu.com/a/741727 | 00:50 |
| bray9082_ | slidinghorn: That will work but | 00:54 |
| bray9082_ | Would installing grub to a new drive copying the contents of the root partition over and updating fstab also work? | 00:54 |
| bray9082_ | Oh wait don't listen to me | 00:54 |
| bray9082_ | slidinghorn: Thanks for the info | 00:55 |
| === capella|away is now known as capella | ||
| Avionfly | peace out | 01:06 |
| bray9082_ | Is 32gb big enough for ubuntu? | 01:39 |
| iosecure | My Ubuntu Server deployment uses 2GB. | 01:40 |
| iosecure | So, the short answer is "it depends." | 01:40 |
| alazy | I'm using xsel/xclip. Sometimes a final "enter" aka "\012" is at the end, and I'd like to remove that. How can I use tr or sed to remove the last character if it's "/012"? | 02:20 |
| iosecure | sed 's:\\012::'? | 02:23 |
| iosecure | Actually, that probably wouldn't work. | 02:23 |
| iosecure | s:\n:: | 02:24 |
| iosecure | Newline? | 02:24 |
| alazy | bind M-C-p run "xsel -o -b | tr -d '\' | tmux load-buffer - | tmux paste-buffer" | 02:31 |
| Geo | Hi, I'm installing 18.04 desktop, and the installer hangs when it gets to the 'installation type' screen- it doesn't allow me to pick a type (the screen I see listed on tutorials don't appear). Instead, I get what looks to be where the partition list goes, and "+ - Change" buttons at the bottom. Clicking any of these completely freeze the installer. Has anyone run into this? | 02:31 |
| alazy | Nevermind, that should have been tr -d | 02:32 |
| alazy | '\012' | ... but it'll delete all \012's, not just the last when it's the last character | 02:32 |
| iosecure | sed '${/^\012$/d;}' file | 02:34 |
| iosecure | That'll delete the last line of the file IF the only content on the line is that character. | 02:35 |
| iosecure | Or, at least, in theory. | 02:40 |
| ZaZaQR | hi | 02:41 |
| jmadero | anyone here using Thunderbird in Ubuntu 18.04, specifically thunderbird 60.2.1 | 02:48 |
| slidinghorn | jmadero, that's the version that comes in the Bionic repositories. What is your actual question? | 02:50 |
| OerHeks | that would cover all versions https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=thunderbird | 02:51 |
| jmadero | I don't see a calendar in it at all . . . which is confusing because Google is telling me one should exist | 02:51 |
| jmadero | I've got a beta version downloaded which has a calendar but it appears like the google calendar extension is broken in that | 02:51 |
| slidinghorn | jmadero, the calendar feature is an extension called Lightning | 02:52 |
| OerHeks | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1797945 | 02:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1797945 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Lightning incompatible with Thunderbird 60.2.1" [High,Confirmed] | 02:52 |
| OerHeks | known issue | 02:52 |
| jmadero | I'm seeing that Lightning is incorporated into Thunderbird after 58.* | 02:52 |
| jmadero | which makes sense as it works fine in my beta release | 02:52 |
| jmadero | just without Google Calendar integration it's essentially useless for me | 02:52 |
| TJ- | jmadero: the calendar is there on 18.04; there's 3 icons top-right, the one with measles brings up the calendar | 02:53 |
| OerHeks | https://support.mozilla.org/nl/questions/1229874 with some promising fixes | 02:53 |
| jmadero | TJ-: yeah I see that in beta, not in the stable release in the repos | 02:53 |
| jmadero | OerHeks: checking out the link now | 02:54 |
| TJ- | jmadero: ahh! seems I have both installed :D | 02:54 |
| OerHeks | in short, wipe and reinstall xul-ext-lightning | 02:54 |
| jmadero | I didn't even have xul-ext-lightning installed | 02:57 |
| jmadero | installing it didn't do anything though | 02:57 |
| OerHeks | pkill thunderbird # something like that ? | 02:58 |
| jmadero | no good - this is super frustrating since it appears like it's environment specific | 02:59 |
| jmadero | well - it's profile specific, this is now interesting | 03:02 |
| Geo | Hi, I'm installing 18.04 desktop, and the installer hangs when it gets to the 'installation type' screen- it doesn't allow me to pick a type (the screen I see listed on tutorials don't appear). Instead, I get what looks to be where the partition list goes, and "+ - Change" buttons at the bottom. Clicking any of these completely freeze the installer. Has anyone run into this? | 03:24 |
| jmadero | Geo: have you successfully installed other versions? | 03:40 |
| jmadero | Geo: when you see boot loader starting in live - press "e", replace "quiet splash" with "nomodeset", see if that helps | 03:43 |
| ShadowyHorseman | Hey Guys, I'm new to Ubuntu. Does anyone know why redirection loops happen during installation of third-party packages? I tried installing Minecraft.deb and few other apps and they don't install easily because of this issue. | 03:48 |
| ShadowyHorseman | Well.. actually they don't install at all. | 03:49 |
| jmadero | redirection ;oops? | 03:57 |
| Geo | jmadero: on other machines, yes | 04:00 |
| Geo | I'll try, thanks | 04:00 |
| Geo | other install media, too (?) | 04:01 |
| ShadowyHorseman | jmadero https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xDzRWTQcVR/ | 04:03 |
| OerHeks | looks like this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1099638/installing-minecraft-deb-tries-to-install-but-gives-a-redirect-loop | 04:06 |
| CodeMouse92 | OerHeks: That's because that's him ;) | 04:06 |
| CodeMouse92 | But the answer didn't work. (Yes, I'm chatting w/ him on the phone. He's actually my best friend IRL) | 04:07 |
| DonaldKBrown | I'm back. Slightly different question. I was looking at https://askubuntu.com/questions/194027/locking-with-usb-drive, but the answers are all out-dated. The suggested cuttlefish PPA doesn't work on 18.04, and the pamusb package is no longer available, as well. Is there anyway, possibly using evdev rules, to make my computer lock when a particular USB device is unplugged? | 04:07 |
| CodeMouse92 | ShadowyHorseman: Question...what happens when you run 'sudo dpkg -i ~/Downloads/Minecraft.deb' | 04:07 |
| OerHeks | remove that and change to snap https://snapcraft.io/minetest | 04:08 |
| ShadowyHorseman | don't even get me started on minetest | 04:09 |
| CodeMouse92 | ShadowyHorseman: And then pastebin the output | 04:09 |
| ShadowyHorseman | CodeMouse92 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jg7Y5gSM8V/ | 04:11 |
| === imsurit_ofc1 is now known as imsurit_ofc | ||
| CodeMouse92 | ShadowyHorseman: Start the application "Software & Updates" | 04:13 |
| CodeMouse92 | Under the Ubuntu Software tab, what value does 'Download from:' have? | 04:13 |
| ShadowyHorseman | 'Server for Canada' | 04:15 |
| CodeMouse92 | ShadowyHorseman: Try 'Main Server' | 04:15 |
| CodeMouse92 | Set that, and then enter the password. | 04:15 |
| CodeMouse92 | Then try the 'sudo apt install' again | 04:15 |
| ShadowyHorseman | Says: Failed to download repository information. Check your Internet connection. Details: v E:The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/shimmerproject/ppa/ubuntu bionic Release' does not have a Release file. | 04:17 |
| CodeMouse92 | ShadowyHorseman: Ahhh, okay, so it sounds like you've tried to install some other application from a PPA (private package repository).... | 04:18 |
| CodeMouse92 | And it doesn't like it much now. So, go to the Other Software tab... | 04:18 |
| CodeMouse92 | Find that in the list, and uncheck the box for it. | 04:18 |
| Bashing-om | ShadowyHorseman: http://ppa.launchpad.net/shimmerproject/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ : not supported in bionic. | 04:19 |
| ShadowyHorseman | reload worked... so... i guess I might retry? | 04:21 |
| CodeMouse92 | Yes, with the apt install command | 04:21 |
| ShadowyHorseman | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kjhYDWqRWg/ | 04:24 |
| CodeMouse92 | That's definitely odd, that it would be be magnling that source URL for gconf2.... | 04:25 |
| CodeMouse92 | Bashing-om: any ideas? ^^^ | 04:25 |
| OerHeks | check your sources.list.d folder, this http://172.83.31.249:80 repo is not legit AFAIK | 04:26 |
| ShadowyHorseman | bear with me OerHeks... what command do I use to check that? | 04:27 |
| Bashing-om | CodeMouse92: ShadowyHorseman looking , | 04:28 |
| Bashing-om | !info gconf2-common bionic | 04:30 |
| ubottu | gconf2-common (source: gconf): GNOME configuration database system (common files). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.6-4ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 683 kB, installed size 6379 kB | 04:30 |
| CodeMouse92 | Bashing-om: His sources seem borked, based on the URL | 04:31 |
| OerHeks | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1063364/ubuntu-18-04-apt-get-upgrade-problem-redirection-loop-encountered | 04:31 |
| OerHeks | mediacom | 04:31 |
| Bashing-om | ShadowyHorseman: " and 204 not upgraded. " . Try ' sudo apt update ' . | 04:32 |
| OerHeks | maybe the packages are not compromized, but their traffic route seems to be a wonky ride | 04:32 |
| CodeMouse92 | I suspect overriding the DNS may well help. | 04:35 |
| ShadowyHorseman | So apparently changing the mirror to mirrors.usinternet.com fixed the problem. I hate you mediacom. | 04:40 |
| Geo | jmadero: no dice | 04:44 |
| CodeMouse92 | ShadowyHorseman: Awesome. Based on that, then, change your DNS. See instructions here. https://1.0.0.1/ | 04:44 |
| ShadowyHorseman | OerHeks, Bashing-om and CodeMouse92 thanks you guys, now I can get stuff done!! | 04:45 |
| Bashing-om | ShadowyHorseman: Here to help :) | 04:53 |
| === msalvatore_ is now known as msalvatore | ||
| bray9082_ | If I were to install ubuntu then replace my root partition with a root partition from a different ubuntu install and updated fstab appropriately would the OS boot? | 06:16 |
| bray9082_ | I would rather just install ubuntu rather then try to install just grub | 06:17 |
| doge-doge | what's the better option: using a preconfigured compton config or sudo saving a custom xorg file (with compositing pipeline) per nvidia driver? for a gtx 1060. | 06:33 |
| doge-doge | i would assume installing nvidia is theoretically better performance over Nouveau? | 06:39 |
| lotuspsychje | doge-doge: we reccomend adding the ubuntu graphics ppa for gtx cards | 06:49 |
| lotuspsychje | doge-doge: from there you can try nvidia 390,396 or 410 | 06:50 |
| doge-doge | i just installed the driver through the software updater settings and it seemed fine installed... | 06:50 |
| lotuspsychje | doge-doge: ubuntu-drivers list to see what your system suggests | 06:50 |
| lotuspsychje | doge-doge: sure, if you are happy with ubuntu's current driver and everything is working you can keep that | 06:51 |
| lotuspsychje | bray9082_: in most cases ubuntu adapts to your hardware/system but make a backup before you experiment ok | 06:52 |
| lotuspsychje | bray9082_: for example and old ubuntu install on ssd, you put the ssd into a new system will adapt itself to the new system | 06:53 |
| doge-doge | in regards to screen tearing and overall performance, i'm reading that forcing the composition pipeline should be your first option since compton itself claims it can never replace the driver's abilities | 06:53 |
| lotuspsychje | bray9082_: of course a fresh install is mostly adviced | 06:53 |
| lotuspsychje | doge-doge: well driver versions can differ alot on performance, best driver is the one performing best on your card/system | 06:54 |
| doge-doge | idk, digging around the nvidia-ultil app (by sudo since you need to save the xorg file) seems like a highly-skilled use-case | 06:56 |
| doge-doge | i've always been told to *never* run any gui per sudo | 06:56 |
| doge-doge | i think that's why gksu got burried? | 06:57 |
| lotuspsychje | doge-doge: yes for security reasons running sudo GUI has been disabled on 18.04 | 06:58 |
| doge-doge | lol, so you have to generate the xorg file manually and copy it over? | 06:58 |
| lotuspsychje | doge-doge: currently fiddling around with the xorg file is not needed anymore | 06:59 |
| doge-doge | how else would nvidia retain custom configs for the next session? | 06:59 |
| lotuspsychje | doge-doge: of course there are always 'special' cases that might need some tuning here and there | 06:59 |
| === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotus|NUC | ||
| aaafakerobot | hiya, | 07:29 |
| aaafakerobot | quick question : can i bold the first line of the terminal, eg "user@pc:~" and make it BOLD? | 07:29 |
| aaafakerobot | even if im not running X? | 07:29 |
| doge-doge | aaafakerobot, you can specify all the font configs in your bash.rc file...can you mention my name here, I want to test out the correct notification sound | 07:32 |
| ducasse | aaafakerobot: depends on your font, but most likely | 07:33 |
| doge-doge | ducasse, can you mention me? | 07:33 |
| doge-doge | i want to know if "beep" is the right entry lol | 07:33 |
| ducasse | aaafakerobot: i'd guess you activate bold with an escape sequence | 07:33 |
| aaafakerobot | hmm ok | 07:34 |
| ducasse | doge-doge: sure, but this isn't really the place | 07:34 |
| aaafakerobot | doge-doge: | 07:34 |
| doge-doge | ok thanks it worked | 07:34 |
| aaafakerobot | :D wuff! | 07:34 |
| aaafakerobot | ok ducasse, can you tell me whats the name of that line thingy? i dont know whats it called (so i can google it) | 07:35 |
| doge-doge | the notification sounds in MATE need a serious update from legacy settings | 07:35 |
| aaafakerobot | doge-doge: bash.rc or .bashrc? | 07:35 |
| doge-doge | i always found customizations in .bashrc | 07:36 |
| ducasse | aaafakerobot: it's contained in a variable, PS1 | 07:36 |
| ducasse | aaafakerobot: there's a list of escape sequences here - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4842424/list-of-ansi-color-escape-sequences | 07:36 |
| ducasse | aaafakerobot: bold is one of them | 07:36 |
| aaafakerobot | thank you! | 07:37 |
| ducasse | you're very welcome | 07:38 |
| aaafakerobot | ok what the heck? | 07:40 |
| aaafakerobot | i have 2 ssh instnaces open, one of them automatically got bolded and the 2nd one didnt? | 07:40 |
| aaafakerobot | ooh | 07:40 |
| aaafakerobot | i think i just made everything bold | 07:41 |
| ducasse | aaafakerobot: you need to turn bold off again at the end of PS1 | 07:41 |
| aaafakerobot | lol :D | 07:41 |
| aaafakerobot | oh no i havent touched bashrc at all, just testing in cli | 07:42 |
| aaafakerobot | i did "echo -e "\033[1m" and everything got bolded, EVERYTHING | 07:42 |
| aaafakerobot | i wonder what i did wrong. | 07:42 |
| aaafakerobot | and then i reset it with "echo -e "\033[0m"" | 07:43 |
| ducasse | yep, that will turn bold on, you need to turn it off again | 07:43 |
| aaafakerobot | hmm ducasse i still dont understand PS1, there's a lot of instances of PS1 in bashrc, | 07:44 |
| aaafakerobot | ok nvm | 07:45 |
| aaafakerobot | i think i understand | 07:45 |
| aaafakerobot | YESSSS | 07:47 |
| aaafakerobot | IT WOKED | 07:47 |
| aaafakerobot | *worked, not woke, but i guess its woke now | 07:48 |
| aaafakerobot | thanks guys | 07:48 |
| Skyrider | Greetings everyone | 07:48 |
| ducasse | aaafakerobot: have fun :) | 07:48 |
| Skyrider | For the past few months that I've tried ubuntu 18.04, I had multiple network issues (no internet) and random packages disappearing (such as ufw). | 07:50 |
| Skyrider | For some odd reason using sudo dhclient eth0 fixed it for the time being, but I am rather curious as to why this is all happening. | 07:50 |
| ducasse | Skyrider: how are you configuring your network - netplan? | 07:52 |
| Skyrider | One would think. | 07:58 |
| Skyrider | netplan exists and should be default. Yet none o the netplan commands work | 07:58 |
| ducasse | are you using networkd or network manager? | 07:59 |
| Skyrider | Everything was working fine until a kernel update reboot requirement.. after that, the entire net died. | 07:59 |
| Skyrider | Good Q... I usually never touch the stuff as its set to dhcp anyway. | 08:00 |
| Skyrider | But I remember a file that pinpointed that manplan was used. | 08:01 |
| Skyrider | and /etc/netplan does exist, but netplan itself is an unknown command. | 08:01 |
| ducasse | Skyrider: does 'type netplan' return anything? | 08:05 |
| Skyrider | type netplan: not found | 08:07 |
| ducasse | might not be properly installed | 08:07 |
| ducasse | can you pastebin the output of 'apt policy netplan.io'? | 08:08 |
| iresf | hello everyone | 08:09 |
| iresf | i want to create a ubuntu base distro, what is the best to do it with ubuntu 16.04 or 18.04 ? | 08:10 |
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| ducasse | shouldn't matter | 08:12 |
| Skyrider | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2GgZry6n3r/ | 08:12 |
| Skyrider | Though this isn't the first time i'm having network issues on ubuntu 18.04 | 08:12 |
| ducasse | ok, it's not installed at all | 08:12 |
| Skyrider | ufw is also missing | 08:14 |
| ducasse | if you're using network manager you can just make sure networking is configured there | 08:14 |
| ducasse | how did you install? | 08:15 |
| SlidingHorn | iresf: I mean, it's simply a matter of preference, really, but if I had to make a recommendation, I'd say 18.04. Its support is extended until 2028 now. | 08:15 |
| Skyrider | Unit network-manager.service could not be found | 08:16 |
| Skyrider | Same for network & networkd | 08:17 |
| iresf | SlidingHorn : may you guide me to customize ubuntu 18.04 or 16.04 i need to change logo of ubuntu in boot stage also i need to install some application and then i need to have them in iso | 08:17 |
| === lotuspsychje__ is now known as lotuspsychje | ||
| ducasse | Skyrider: ok, how did you install? | 08:18 |
| Skyrider | I didn't, was pre-installed with the image. | 08:18 |
| Skyrider | Everything was working fine last week, including ufw. But after a reboot (and kernel update), stuff broke down | 08:18 |
| ducasse | iresf: this is a bit outside what is supported here | 08:18 |
| Skyrider | Now multiple packages appear to be missing | 08:18 |
| ducasse | Skyrider: seems so, yes | 08:19 |
| iresf | ducasse : where should i looking for help ? | 08:19 |
| ducasse | iresf: i don't know, ##linux maybe? | 08:20 |
| === enko-h is now known as enko | ||
| iresf | thank u | 08:22 |
| Skyrider | Not sure why a kernel update would break stuff | 08:24 |
| Skyrider | Second time this happened on 18.04 :-\ | 08:24 |
| nekoseam | how could a kernel update ever POSSIBLY break something? it's not like it's the core to Linux! | 08:27 |
| lotuspsychje | in reality things can happen when booting kernel versions | 08:28 |
| ducasse | the question is probably more why it would remove other packages, which it never should | 08:29 |
| === daniel is now known as Guest59374 | ||
| afakerobot | hiya once again. | 08:35 |
| afakerobot | on startup, i get an error message "lsdhelper: cannot conenct to x server | 08:36 |
| afakerobot | i dont care about X, i just want the error to be suppressed | 08:36 |
| afakerobot | because i have to press enter to start my work, so its 1 extra keystroke | 08:36 |
| afakerobot | https://i.imgur.com/ZfuTKAX.png | 08:39 |
| afakerobot | so before i can start, i have to press enter atleast once | 08:40 |
| afakerobot | i want the error message to be suppressed, so it doesnt show up. | 08:40 |
| afakerootbot | hiya, question : when i do apt-get install/update, it checks THIS address "http://192.168.160.90" | 09:14 |
| afakerootbot | and eventually fails | 09:14 |
| afakerootbot | how do i restore repositories via CLI? | 09:14 |
| SlidingHorn | afakerootbot: check this out: https://askubuntu.com/a/586601 | 09:15 |
| afakerootbot | SlidingHorn: thank you. | 09:18 |
| afakerootbot | SlidingHorn: PERFECT, worked | 09:38 |
| jerbot_ | hello | 09:55 |
| jerbot_ | is Ubuntu One good? | 09:55 |
| afakerootbot | jerbot_: DEPENDS. | 10:05 |
| esselfe | Hi, what should I do to have gkrellm start when my session opens? I'm using Ubuntu 18.04.1 Bionic | 10:14 |
| esselfe | with gnome. Should I create a desktop file in /etc/xdg/autostart? | 10:16 |
| tarzeau | where can i find PPA testers? | 10:22 |
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| === _SimonNL is now known as SimonNL | ||
| Zteam | Hi all! | 11:34 |
| === SimonNL is now known as _SimonNL | ||
| Zteam | I have a problem with fstrim since I upgraded Ubuntu from 18.04 to 18.10 fstrim on my ssd takes over 7 minutes this is happening once a a week and results in a very huge boot time | 11:36 |
| Zteam | It worked great on Ubuntu 18.04 | 11:36 |
| capella | I thought trim on ssd was deprecated | 11:44 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 11:46 |
| Zteam | capella, why would it be that? my install sure run it | 11:46 |
| capella | I mean it works but induces unneeded wear | 11:46 |
| * capella re-reading | 11:47 | |
| prof2004 | hi, I have a problem with hplip accessing my hp_laserjet_mfp_m426dw | 11:52 |
| prof2004 | have had installed hplib3.17.10 with std ubuntu 18.04 | 11:53 |
| prof2004 | did print, but no scanning | 11:53 |
| prof2004 | have got the latest version hplip from HP Linux Imaging and Printing Website: 3.18.12 | 11:54 |
| prof2004 | did the install without error | 11:54 |
| prof2004 | system detected the printer, told me to run hp-plugin in user mode | 11:55 |
| prof2004 | did it | 11:55 |
| prof2004 | get an error in verifying the installation package | 11:55 |
| prof2004 | skipped the error | 11:55 |
| prof2004 | proeceed until the end with an error message error: python gobject/dbus may not be installed | 11:56 |
| prof2004 | running scan2pdf gives error: open of device hpaio:/net/hp_laserjet_mfp_m426dw? ip=192.168.0.5& queue=false failed: ERROR during device i/o | 11:57 |
| prof2004 | tried to remove the hplib 3.18.12 and to install the 3.17.10 again | 11:58 |
| prof2004 | now, I have both version displayed and scanning does still not work | 11:58 |
| Zteam | prof2004, if the driver is for a 32bit system and you are on a 64 bit system you need to install ia32-lib (it's renamed now but if you try to install that from terminal APT will tell you the right name) | 11:58 |
| prof2004 | your help is welcome | 11:58 |
| prof2004 | sudo apt install ia32-lib leads to package not found | 12:00 |
| Zteam | prof2004, ops my bad. its ia32-libs | 12:04 |
| Zteam | prof2004, it will still tell you that the package doesn't exist, but it should suggest another package instead | 12:05 |
| prof2004 | is it ok to install these two packages? lib32ncurses5 and lib32z1? I do not want to harm my system? | 12:06 |
| Zteam | prof2004, yes, it should be. that worked to solve my issues with my Brother Scanner, but I can't guarentee it will work for you, but it's worth a try | 12:08 |
| prof2004 | done | 12:09 |
| prof2004 | scanner still not found, do I have to do additional steps, reboot or so? | 12:09 |
| zetheroo | How to troubleshoot the issue here? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HZPKFm3BKD/ | 12:10 |
| Zteam | prof2004, nope, if that was your problem it should been working now | 12:10 |
| prof2004 | no, then I have still the problem | 12:11 |
| prof2004 | may be, we can together remove/purge all hp components, and do a fresh hplip install? | 12:12 |
| prof2004 | A first step would be, to have the package hp components only installed | 12:12 |
| prof2004 | it should work, I have checked, that my printer is supported since hplip 3.15.11 | 12:13 |
| prof2004 | now I have a mix of 3.17.10 and 3.18.12 | 12:14 |
| lukeramsden | anybody else having trouble accessing naked ubuntu.com? www.ubuntu.com works fine, but other subdomains (like the ones used by apt) are refusing connections | 12:15 |
| lukeramsden | trying to determine if it's my network or if it's the site | 12:15 |
| prof2004 | apt works fine for me | 12:15 |
| Zteam | apt works for me too | 12:21 |
| Zteam | prof2004, try to run hpscan from a termianl and see if it gives you any clues | 12:23 |
| zetheroo | for some reason I cannot install freeradius-mysql in 18.04 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HZPKFm3BKD/ | 12:24 |
| zetheroo | How to find out why? | 12:24 |
| prof2004 | error: No device selected/specified or that supports this functionality. | 12:24 |
| ddoobb | Hey guys I'm on 18.04 and I just found out that my system does not have LibreOffice Impress, it only has Writer, Calc, and Math. Is this expected, and how can I get LibreOffice Impress without undoing the LTS-ness of my LibreOffice install | 12:33 |
| Zteam | prof2004, you might find this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne | 12:34 |
| Zteam | ddoobb, just install it from software center | 12:36 |
| ddoobb | Zteam it's not there | 12:36 |
| Zteam | ddoobb, go to a terminla and run these commands: | 12:38 |
| Zteam | ddoobb, sudo apt update | 12:38 |
| Zteam | ddoobb, sudo apt install libreoffice-impress | 12:39 |
| prof2004 | hp-check -r brings up a lot of info and some errors | 12:39 |
| prof2004 | have to read it carefully, will come back | 12:39 |
| ddoobb | thanks Zteam | 12:42 |
| talin | hello. i've added "root soft nofile 8192" to /etc/security/limits.conf and restarted. it seems no change has taken effect. process is running as root, but cat /proc/<pid>/limits still says 1024? | 12:45 |
| Zteam | ddoobb, you are welcome :) | 12:49 |
| === littlebit1 is now known as littlebit | ||
| BillD73 | Not looking for Android Virtual Box help, it's and issue on graphics with ubuntu 16. While setting up an AVD I cannot see what at the bottom of dialog box, print is truncated I can see the cancel and OK buttons but cannot see what is written next to it and OK button does not become available(likely a config issue) but with being able to see what written idk. my little Acer resolution only has a 1024x600 max. Any suggestions? | 13:25 |
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| vlt | BillD73: What is an AVD? | 13:47 |
| BillD73 | vlt: Android Virtual Device | 13:48 |
| vlt | BillD73: First idea that comes to mind: Run a larger vncserver session and scroll or scale. | 13:53 |
| zetheroo | How is it that after I removed a package and rebooted the system that the service of that package is still running? | 13:53 |
| iosecure | Which package? | 13:54 |
| zetheroo | zabbix-agent | 13:54 |
| zetheroo | I'm going to try and reinstall it regardless | 13:55 |
| BillD73 | vlt: I'll check that out | 13:58 |
| olabaz | Hi, I'm on 18.10 and I use a laptop with an external monitor. When I have the displays set to "Join Displays" and I set the dock to my external monitor it goes on laptop screen. When I set it to laptop screen it goes on the external monitor. Is there a way to fix this? | 14:00 |
| === capella is now known as capella|away | ||
| lolswitch | I'm thinking of flashing the ubuntu iso to my lenovo's recovery partition, booting from there, installing from there (no usb pen drive or optical drive) | 14:18 |
| pragmaticenigma | lolswitch: I'm not certain, but i don't think that will work | 14:19 |
| lolswitch | k what's the best way to get ubuntu on? | 14:19 |
| iosecure | Why wouldn't that work? | 14:20 |
| iosecure | It's a common technique that VPS providers use to bootstrap installations that they don't provide images for. | 14:20 |
| alephnull | I have SecureBoot setup and /proc/keys shows me the Canonical keys. However, when I build a module with dkms, modinfo does not show signer or sig_key. I do see "~Module signature appended~" with hexdump. | 14:20 |
| alephnull | Where are the keys that are used to sign the modules? | 14:21 |
| iosecure | Stored securely on Canonical's systems, I'd expect. | 14:21 |
| iosecure | To do otherwise would circumvent the protection that secure boot is intended to provide. | 14:22 |
| alephnull | iosecure, So how do I sign DKMS modules? Enroll my own key? | 14:22 |
| pragmaticenigma | iosecure: VPS is different than a physical system. Most recovery partitions are signed for the recovery module in the bios to verify it hasn't been tampered with. Bios recovery may not recognize the partition for booting | 14:22 |
| pragmaticenigma | lolswitch: The best way is to follow the instructions on ubuntu's website for installing | 14:23 |
| pragmaticenigma | lolswitch: Either burning the ISO to DVD-ROM for boot, or flashing the image to a thumb drive | 14:23 |
| alephnull | I figured it must be generating a key somewhere on the filesystem. | 14:23 |
| pragmaticenigma | !usb | lolswitch | 14:23 |
| ubottu | lolswitch: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 14:23 |
| lolswitch | that would mean to mount the disk and run setup like a fucking faggot | 14:24 |
| iosecure | pragmaticenigma: KVM VMs are in general indistinguishable from physical systems. No one said that he had to boot from the recovery option. As long as the partition entry is set to the correct type, BIOS should recognize it as any other bootable partition. | 14:24 |
| iosecure | lolswitch: Language. | 14:24 |
| pragmaticenigma | lolswitch: watch you language | 14:24 |
| === capella|away is now known as capella | ||
| lolswitch | k | 14:24 |
| pragmaticenigma | lolswitch: This channel only supports the official methods for installation that are documented by the community and Ubuntu developers. The method you described isn't supported here, you're welcome to try it, but it is very unlikely anyone here will be able to provide assistance | 14:27 |
| Ascavasaion | I am trying to get wifi to work on this laptop. ethernet works. lspci shows both wireless and wired network cards. iwconfig only shows enp7s0 and lo, neither having wireless extensions | 14:37 |
| gotpunk | dmesg show any errors? | 14:38 |
| gotpunk | what chipset? | 14:38 |
| Ascavasaion | 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01) | 14:39 |
| gotpunk | Ascavasaion: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer | 14:41 |
| gotpunk | if that doesn't work, or errors, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer | 14:41 |
| Ascavasaion | gotpunk, Do I need to reboot or soemthing for that to work? | 14:43 |
| Ascavasaion | gotpunk: firmware-b43-lpphy-installer does not exist | 14:47 |
| Ascavasaion | Let me reboot | 14:47 |
| gotpunk | nobody tell him i just googled that shit | 14:49 |
| gotpunk | and it was the first(second?) result | 14:49 |
| Ascavasaion | gotpunk: It worked!!! thank you | 14:52 |
| gotpunk | np! | 14:53 |
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| === leona is now known as Miklo | ||
| rapidwave | I've been having trouble with latest kernel using Bionic. When I try to boot, I get a black screen and never shows anything. | 15:08 |
| rapidwave | If I use the first older kernel, it gets to loading some kind of RAM, but hangs. | 15:08 |
| alephnull | Where is the MOK stored on disk? | 15:09 |
| === SimonNL is now known as _SimonNL | ||
| strixdio | ubuntu 18.04 (updated) and 18.10 both have flickering issues for a few minutes when I log into my desktop. This doesn't seem to happen when I am running live, but only after I apt upgrade. 3D controller [0302]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1cbb] (rev a1) VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:3e9b] | 15:10 |
| strixdio | running nouveau and i915 | 15:11 |
| lordcirth_ | rapidwave, can you tell/show us what this "some kind of RAM" screen looks like? | 15:11 |
| strixdio | hmm, not sure why lspci doesn't show what kind of GPU the nvidia is.. it is a nvidia quadro P1000. | 15:14 |
| Roden | is there a way to increase the size of things in the default de for 18? | 15:16 |
| lordcirth_ | strixdio, you should probably install the nvidia driver | 15:16 |
| Roden | 18.04 DE has really tiny scroll bars and buttons | 15:16 |
| Roden | the 200% zoom stuff is nonsense | 15:17 |
| lordcirth_ | strixdio, or, this might be related: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1038973/linux/2-same-quadro-p1000-cards-but-only-one-can-install-ubuntu-/ | 15:17 |
| strixdio | lordcirth_: I am leaning this way, though I'm not used to ubuntu.. there won't be any issues with it right? as in, kernel updated but driver not? | 15:18 |
| Roden | it doesn't change line height so everything gets smushed out | 15:18 |
| strixdio | lordcirth_: I'm wanting ubuntu installed to my USB drive to be my "just works" distro. | 15:18 |
| lordcirth_ | strixdio, so long as you are installing from the graphics-drivers ppa for the right version (bionic) there shouldn't be a mismatch. | 15:18 |
| strixdio | oh, ppa. :/ | 15:19 |
| lordcirth_ | strixdio, alternatively, try turning off desktop animations; perhaps the flickering will stop | 15:19 |
| strixdio | Alright, thanks for the help :) | 15:21 |
| CookieM | Roden, gnome-tweak-tool to the rescue | 15:21 |
| strixdio | I'll consider both options. Probably the nvidia blob since that's the direction I was leaning anyway. | 15:21 |
| rapidwave | lordcirth_ I believe it's just a line trying to load initram | 15:25 |
| Draconiator | <Draconiator> Question - does Lubuntu support the Intel 945 graphics chipset? I may be running on generics right now. | 15:25 |
| Draconiator | <Draconiator> this is my ollllllld netbook BTW, 1GB RAM, 1.6ghz intel atom | 15:25 |
| Draconiator | oh and I forgot, running 16.04 as well, seems to run great on this thing. | 15:25 |
| Roden | CookieM, there are 61000 possibilities for gnome-tweak-tools{tab} | 15:25 |
| Roden | could you recommend a dead ringer, mate? | 15:26 |
| lordcirth_ | Draconiator, pretty sure the Lubuntu and Ubuntu kernels are the same. | 15:26 |
| lordcirth_ | And the Intel drivers are just kernel modules, last I checked | 15:26 |
| Draconiator | ah so I don't need to do anything. | 15:27 |
| lordcirth_ | Yeah intel works with everything | 15:27 |
| Roden | Is the synaptic pad behavior for you guys in ubuntu also wonkers? | 15:27 |
| Roden | Click-and-hold left-mouse and can't highlight terminal text | 15:28 |
| Roden | only terminal, though | 15:28 |
| lordcirth_ | Roden, I recall having problems with synaptic years ago, but not recently | 15:28 |
| Roden | I can highlight in hexchat but not in terminal | 15:28 |
| lordcirth_ | Roden, to double check, is the terminal running anything, like 'top'? | 15:28 |
| Roden | no. | 15:28 |
| lordcirth_ | And this is gnome-terminal? | 15:29 |
| Roden | I was going to state a problem here and then maybe at wine | 15:29 |
| Roden | I don't know. I'm a freshie on 18.04 | 15:29 |
| Roden | I typed version: no dice. | 15:29 |
| Roden | I'm going to have to break out the google fu in a minut. | 15:30 |
| Roden | I don't want to, though. | 15:30 |
| lordcirth_ | Roden, the default terminal on Ubuntu 18.04 is gnome-terminal. | 15:30 |
| Draconiator | I did run 18.04 on here for a while, but this one seems to bemore geared to low power devices, and it's perfect for my needs | 15:30 |
| Roden | okay then it is. | 15:30 |
| lordcirth_ | Roden, just in case, try installing xterm and running it | 15:30 |
| Roden | Shouldn't I be able to highlight stuff in the nome term? | 15:31 |
| lordcirth_ | Roden, yes, you should, but this could help us narrow down the problem | 15:31 |
| Roden | Oh, it's huge, lo | 15:31 |
| Roden | When I hit ctrl-alt-t I get the same nonsense | 15:32 |
| Roden | okay xterm is up | 15:32 |
| Roden | Same nonsense in xterm | 15:33 |
| Roden | and also my eyes are bleeding because the font is so small | 15:33 |
| Roden | have you ever seen any situation other than Ubuntu where every font would be less than 9? | 15:33 |
| Roden | I think high school was 12 if they were rigid and uni was 16 double-spaced all-around. | 15:33 |
| Roden | I haven't used 10-font since gradeschool, lordy. | 15:34 |
| Roden | seems like a major oversight by the gnome | 15:34 |
| Roden | the background is fantastic, though, isnt it? Look at that. It's like a hephalumph | 15:35 |
| Roden | Oh, it's a squirrel's head or maybe a beaver | 15:35 |
| Draconiator | I can't believe they didn't choose "drowsy donkey" as the name of the next one. | 15:36 |
| Draconiator | 18.04, codenamed Bionic Beaver. | 15:36 |
| strixdio | lordcirth_: huh, nvidia's driver does the same exact thing. | 15:36 |
| Roden | no they have to make something good to give it a cool name. lol | 15:36 |
| Roden | they can use drowsy donkey when there's a user-friendly release. | 15:37 |
| Roden | i'd love to make one, some day. | 15:38 |
| Roden | I bet we could make it happen, guys. Let's all meet up at the guild house this weekend and talk it over, shall we? | 15:38 |
| Roden | Beer on Strix. Draco the major d? | 15:38 |
| Roden | Drake left. | 15:40 |
| strixdio | So this issue with my graphics started a few days ago. I had a fairly fresh install from about two weeks ago (tops). I updated it sometime in the past few days and got this issue. | 15:40 |
| herald85 | anyone knows why apt tries but fails to download linux-headers-4.4.0-140_4.4.0-140.166_all.deb ? | 15:41 |
| strixdio | ever since, even on fresh installs (update during install) I get this flicker issue with the quadro p1000 | 15:41 |
| Roden | Is there a magnifying glass hotkey? | 15:41 |
| strixdio | even on the nvidia driver | 15:41 |
| strixdio | this goes for 18.04 and 18.10 | 15:41 |
| strixdio | dmesg | grep -i nvidia > http://dpaste.com/2T7X03A | 15:43 |
| Geo | Hi, I'm installing 18.04 desktop, and the installer hangs when it gets to the 'installation type' screen- it doesn't allow me to pick a type (the screen I see listed on tutorials don't appear). Instead, I get what looks to be where the partition list goes, and "+ - Change" buttons at the bottom. Clicking any of these completely freeze the installer. Has anyone run into this? | 15:43 |
| Roden | Isthere a way to select text in the terminal using only the keyboard? | 15:52 |
| Haris | hello all | 15:57 |
| Haris | what's the pkg containing php5 mod on 14.04 lts | 15:58 |
| Roden | I used screen. it works | 15:58 |
| Roden | apt install screen | 15:58 |
| Roden | Didn't work at all. | 15:59 |
| Roden | Just writing it out: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. | 16:00 |
| Roden | gotta look at it tomorow i guess nn | 16:02 |
| SlidingHorn | Haris: are you running the desktop or server version? | 16:19 |
| lolswitch | how do i install ubuntu without a usb drive or optical drive on an oob windows laptop? canonical doesn't have that documentation. | 16:26 |
| lolswitch | anyone in here knowledgeable about canonical? | 16:26 |
| popey | That's tricky. You could setup a PXE boot server on the network to serve up an ISO | 16:27 |
| popey | But it's way easier to find a USB key. | 16:27 |
| teward | lolswitch: without a USB stick, you'd have to deploy a PXE boot server to serve the ISO up. | 16:46 |
| teward | if that's not an option then you're out of luck | 16:46 |
| leftyfb | teward: you said what popey already said | 16:51 |
| teward | didn't see popey's message :| | 16:51 |
| pragmaticenigma | teward: it was immediately following the requestors message? | 16:56 |
| teward | pragmaticenigma: might've been missed, my connection to my bouncer was flaky and for this channel I don't keep the backlogs after they're relayed, and if the client still listed as connected it'd not store in the buffer | 16:57 |
| teward | :| | 16:57 |
| teward | in either case, no need to shoot me because of an accidental statement of echoing what another user said when I can't see that | 16:57 |
| pragmaticenigma | no worries | 16:57 |
| ioria | considering that the user didn't even reply maybe repeating does good (repetita iuvant) | 17:06 |
| hazrpg | Hey all, just wondering if anyone else is experiencing an issue booting ubuntu 16.04 - i keep getting dropped into (initramfs) console, i had this issue before and opened up a launchpad on it a few months back but no update on it... and now it's affecting a kernel that was previously fine. The error before the console is that /sbin/init could not be found on the filesystem. Any thoughts? | 17:23 |
| ioria | hazrpg, can you boot in recovery mode and enable networking ? | 17:29 |
| hazrpg | ioria, i think it still kicks me to initramfs, but i will double check that now | 17:30 |
| === crimastergogo_ is now known as crimastergogo | ||
| hazrpg | No i get the same message on recovery | 17:54 |
| ioria | hazrpg, then you need a livecd | 17:56 |
| xitan | Hi, I'm using Wine to run Windows app under Ubuntu without any problems so far. Sadly the context menu (right-click) always opens on the wrong monitor. Any ideas how to fix this? | 17:58 |
| Richard_Cavell | /join #winehq | 18:01 |
| xitan | ah well thanks :) | 18:01 |
| roboto | can anyone help with fixing qt. it seem severely broke here. no google hits have worked. removed all of qt, rebooted, reinstalled, and still broke | 18:05 |
| coderman1 | if i have a file that was a binary file (.gz) and i uploaded it to an FTP site in ascii mode, is there anyway to recover it back to binary? the ftp copy is the only copy that i have now | 18:37 |
| Haris | what's the pkg containing php mod on ubuntu 14.x | 18:38 |
| compdoc | there seem to be ASCII text to binary converters, but who knows | 18:38 |
| lordcirth_ | Haris, libapache2-mod-php, I think | 18:41 |
| Haris | ah | 18:41 |
| hazrpg | This is the bug I initially filled a while back, now it affects all kernels: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-signed-hwe/+bug/1800250 | 18:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1800250 in linux-signed-hwe (Ubuntu) "Latest kernel boots to (initramfs) console on Dell Inspirion 15 7577" [Undecided,New] | 18:41 |
| Haris | its not listed under https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/php/ | 18:42 |
| Haris | where is it under https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ | 18:42 |
| Haris | its under https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/httpd/ | 18:43 |
| Tenkawa | hello. Is there any good method/guide to explain how to integrate xscreensaver in ubuntu 18? | 18:43 |
| lordcirth_ | Haris, https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/httpd/libapache2-mod-php5 | 18:43 |
| Tenkawa | or is it completely deprecated? I kinda miss the variety of screensavers | 18:43 |
| lordcirth_ | Tenkawa, It's in 18.04, when I installed xubuntu-desktop, I got it | 18:44 |
| lordcirth_ | From minimal, not the Xubuntu iso | 18:44 |
| Tenkawa | ok.. let me take a look | 18:44 |
| leftyfb | Haris: you do know trusty will be EOL and unsupported in about 4 months right? | 18:45 |
| Haris | completely? | 18:46 |
| nacc | Haris: unless you pay Canonical for ESM :) | 18:46 |
| Tenkawa | lordcirth_: yeah I was definitely missing a ton of packages | 18:46 |
| nacc | Haris: lordcirth_: it's libapache2-mod-php5 on 14.043 | 18:46 |
| Tenkawa | updating now | 18:46 |
| Haris | no comment on it for now | 18:47 |
| leftyfb | Haris: yes. It's LTS which is generally supported for 5 years. You are 2 LTS releases behind. You are 9 ubuntu releases behind in total. | 18:47 |
| Tenkawa | brb | 18:49 |
| nacc | Haris: no comment? | 18:49 |
| Haris | I'v already apprised those who need to be apprised of this fact months ago | 18:50 |
| leftyfb | Haris: Just letting you know. Come April, you'll no longer be able to get support for it. Not unless you pay for ESM from Canonical. But likely not here at all. | 18:53 |
| Alina-malina | i am wondering if someone used before youtube streaming API in linux, can somenoe give me instructions how to do that? | 18:56 |
| Tenkawa | lordcirth_: perfect | 18:57 |
| Tenkawa | that was you who answered my q right? | 18:58 |
| leftyfb | Alina-malina: your question has nothing to do with ubuntu. You should try other channels. Maybe one related to the programming language you're trying to use. | 18:58 |
| lordcirth_ | Tenkawa, np. I'm actually planning on using something else, when I can be bothered. lol | 19:00 |
| Alina-malina | lol... | 19:00 |
| Tenkawa | that worked perfectly | 19:00 |
| sere_ | is there a program specificly for cursors or icons.. gimg is good but it cannot create .ani files and i really dont want to switch to windows just for that ?? | 19:02 |
| ruid | why does middle click to paste only work on certain applications? | 19:06 |
| ruid | and how do I make it work on everything? | 19:06 |
| Haris | just sent a soft reminder via email to decision makers', action takers' asking them to plan upgrade | 19:06 |
| Haris | done my part | 19:06 |
| Voziv | I've been using a few snaps (discord, slack, phpstorm) for a little while now. When I click a link in slack if my browser isn't already open it opens with the slack icon. Does that mean my browser is then running within the slack snap? | 19:07 |
| === daniel is now known as Guest16395 | ||
| popey | Voziv: no, but that's odd, I'll take a look into it | 19:12 |
| pragmaticenigma | Voziv: Is Firefox your default browser? | 19:13 |
| popey | Voziv: might be worth starting a thread on the snapcraft forum if you have a moment, forum.snapcraft.io | 19:13 |
| popey | because that sounds like a bug | 19:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | popey: It's not necassarily a bug, depending on the default browser. Snaps are sandboxed by default. If it is providing Firefox as it's own browser. Mozilla Firefox is built to share one instance of the process, to avoid creating a bunch of firefox processes on a single machine | 19:14 |
| popey | The Slack snap does not provide Firefox. | 19:15 |
| pragmaticenigma | popey: Do you know for sure? | 19:15 |
| nacc | it's classic, iirc | 19:15 |
| popey | Yes, I worked with Slack to make it | 19:15 |
| pragmaticenigma | Moving on, if Slack can launch Firefox from it's sandboxed instance, then Firefox would live in the sandbox. But if Firefox is already running, it's going to share the original process | 19:16 |
| popey | Slack is a classic (unconfined) snap | 19:16 |
| CheetahPixie | Greetings, folks. | 19:19 |
| CheetahPixie | I have some questions. | 19:19 |
| CheetahPixie | A friend's computer has a broken iGPU, but a working framebuffer. | 19:19 |
| CheetahPixie | I want to switch his install to llvmpipe. | 19:19 |
| CheetahPixie | How do I do that? | 19:19 |
| CheetahPixie | I've found temporary, per-program ways to do it | 19:20 |
| CheetahPixie | but I want to make all of X11 run on llvmpipe. | 19:20 |
| ducasse | !enter | CheetahPixie | 19:21 |
| ubottu | CheetahPixie: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone. | 19:21 |
| lordcirth_ | A program I'm debugging keeps writing files to /tmp, and then deleting them. I'm trying to use inotifywait | cut | xargs cp to rescue them for debugging before they get deleted. But xargs, even with -L1, doesn't seem to execute them right away. | 19:22 |
| lordcirth_ | I think it might be waiting until the pipe closes? | 19:22 |
| lordcirth_ | Yeah, it is | 19:24 |
| CheetahPixie | so, it boils down to this: how do I make an Ubuntu install use llvmpipe instead of *any* other driver? There's a lot of results on Google for getting *away* from llvmpipe, but nothing on how to go the other way. | 19:30 |
| hays_ | I am seeing something very unusual and I have no idea how to troubleshoot. I am accessing 127.0.0.1 on a system and it is connecting to another machine on the same network. Any ideas how to dig into this? | 19:40 |
| lordcirth_ | hays_, lol what? 'ip route get 127.0.0.1' | 19:41 |
| hays_ | hold on i might disconnect briefly | 19:41 |
| Voziv | pragmaticenigma: Yeah it's my default. File browser also does the same thing. So if I download a file in slack and press "open containg folder", the resulting file window has a slack icon | 19:43 |
| hays_ | lordcirth_: local 127.0.0.1 dev lo src 127.0.0.1 uid 43322 cache <local> | 19:43 |
| lordcirth_ | hays_, ok. So when you are "accessing" 127.0.0.1, what port and program are you using?: | 19:44 |
| hays_ | lordcirth_: its a python requests module to a REST API, and i'm doing http://127.0.0.1:9080 | 19:45 |
| Voziv | popey: Will do | 19:45 |
| lordcirth_ | hays_, ok, and you've got something listening on 9080? Perhaps somebody made an ssh tunnel? | 19:45 |
| pragmaticenigma | Voziv: ( popey ) so it would appear that the bug may not be with Slack (or the snaps) at all, but instead something else. | 19:46 |
| hays_ | lordcirth_: i checked that with ps -ef | grep ssh | 19:46 |
| hays_ | so I don't think so... | 19:46 |
| lordcirth_ | hays_, lsof -i :9080 | 19:47 |
| popey | pragmaticenigma: what's the suspect? | 19:47 |
| pragmaticenigma | popey: Is file manager a snap as well? | 19:47 |
| lordcirth_ | hays_, also, are you quite sure that the request library is really using localhost, and not, say, an IP from config file someone wrote a while ago? | 19:47 |
| popey | pragmaticenigma: nautilus? no | 19:48 |
| Tenkawa | hays_: also netstat -anp | grep 9080 on the host running the listening process | 19:48 |
| hays_ | lordcirth_: lsof command shows nothing | 19:48 |
| lordcirth_ | hays_, so, nothing is listening for it on localhost | 19:48 |
| pragmaticenigma | popey: Then I wonder if it is a bug with Mozilla Firefox, inheriting the icon of the calling application? | 19:48 |
| hays_ | tcp6 0 0 :::9080 :::* LISTEN - | 19:48 |
| lordcirth_ | Oh, it's listening on ipv6 only? | 19:48 |
| hays_ | apparently? Althtough I've tried http://[::1]:9080/ and I had similar results | 19:49 |
| lordcirth_ | Still, that doesn't explain how it's somehow getting routed | 19:49 |
| hays_ | right | 19:50 |
| lordcirth_ | hays_, in another terminal, 'tcpdump -i lo'. Then send a request | 19:50 |
| hays_ | the REST API I am using returns a UID and I am getting a UID for another machine | 19:50 |
| Voziv | pragmaticenigma: (popey) This is what my snap list returns: https://gist.github.com/Voziv/e938d3e6d60eab7effc03dfc57bd48a2 | 19:51 |
| hays_ | lordcirth_: a fair amount of noise when I do that | 19:51 |
| Voziv | Indeed it's a classic snap though | 19:52 |
| hays_ | lordcirth_: but nothing bursts through when I make the request | 19:52 |
| nacc | pragmaticenigma: i'm pretty sure it is, and chrome has this problem too, afaict | 19:52 |
| Voziv | Is there a way I can check to see if the process is sandboxxed? | 19:53 |
| lordcirth_ | hays_, tcpdump -i lo 'port 9080' should filter it down. | 19:53 |
| lordcirth_ | Try watching your lan interface instead of lo. | 19:53 |
| hays_ | lordcirth_: I have multiple lan interfaces. any way to watch them all? | 19:53 |
| hays_ | lordcirth_: confirmed lo is empty | 19:54 |
| lordcirth_ | hays_, -i any | 19:54 |
| hays_ | hmm ok im getting nothing. one sec | 19:55 |
| hays_ | ok yeah nothing. hmm | 19:56 |
| hays_ | I've tried it with grep also | 19:56 |
| hays_ | that.. makes no sense. hold on trying to see if I see it over the explicit IP address | 19:57 |
| Tenkawa | whats the current debug step? | 19:57 |
| hays_ | lordcirth_: OK if I access via 10.194.59.5 I see the packets | 19:57 |
| hays_ | lordcirth_: by via localhost I see no packets | 19:57 |
| hays_ | but I do get a response... | 19:58 |
| lordcirth_ | hays_, so, the packets are being sent from 10.194.59.5 | 19:58 |
| lordcirth_ | ? | 19:58 |
| hays_ | lordcirth_: if I run a test where I access the local API via the actual IP address of the machine I am on, I get the 'correct' answer, and I see it in tcpdump | 19:58 |
| lordcirth_ | Oh, interesting | 19:58 |
| hays_ | if I access via 127.0.0.1, I see nothing | 19:58 |
| hays_ | but I get a response | 19:58 |
| Tenkawa | hays_: you wont | 19:59 |
| hays_ | but its from another freaking machine | 19:59 |
| lordcirth_ | Try 127.0.1.1 | 19:59 |
| hays_ | like its a GUID and its from another machine | 19:59 |
| nacc | hays_: is it possible that some machine on your network has the hostname 'localhost' ? | 19:59 |
| Tenkawa | 127.0.0.1 is non routeable without | 19:59 |
| Tenkawa | a arp | 19:59 |
| `mist_ | hey guys | 19:59 |
| lordcirth_ | Tenkawa, what? | 19:59 |
| iosecure | 127.* is nonroutable, period. | 19:59 |
| lordcirth_ | Yeah, but he shouldn't need a route. | 19:59 |
| lordcirth_ | He should be able to connect to himself via 127.0.0.1 | 20:00 |
| Tenkawa | iosecure: ideally yes... | 20:00 |
| iosecure | Assuming the process is listening on that account. | 20:00 |
| Tenkawa | but the stack can get confused | 20:00 |
| iosecure | Tenkawa: Not ideally. It's nonroutable, at all. | 20:00 |
| iosecure | s/account/address/ | 20:00 |
| lordcirth_ | iosecure, when he sends a request to 127.0.0.1, a different machine answers. | 20:00 |
| `mist_ | hey guys, i've got a machine that's not doing so hot | 20:00 |
| `mist_ | its saying welcome to emergency mode | 20:00 |
| lordcirth_ | `mist_, what did you change recently? Update? | 20:01 |
| hays_ | lordcirth_: 127.0.1.1 yields same results as 127.0.0.1 | 20:01 |
| `mist_ | lordcirth_: i had a power outage | 20:01 |
| iosecure | hays_: 127.anything will go to localhost. | 20:01 |
| hays_ | nacc: I don't think so.. let me check | 20:01 |
| lordcirth_ | It was worth a shot | 20:01 |
| Tenkawa | it suppose to | 20:01 |
| iosecure | lordcirth_: Then he's got something attached to localhost that's proxying traffic elsewhere. | 20:01 |
| lordcirth_ | iosecure, yeah, that's what we are trying to find. | 20:01 |
| Tenkawa | if its not.. something is way wrong | 20:01 |
| lordcirth_ | `mist_, what Ubuntu version? | 20:01 |
| `mist_ | so i would really appreciate if someone could help me getting this machine back up and running. I'm not even sure where to start | 20:01 |
| iosecure | That's the only way that 127.* would go to any other host. | 20:01 |
| nacc | hays_: alternatively, take your machine off the network, and verify that 127.0.0.1 responds locally | 20:02 |
| Tenkawa | hays_: you dont have any iptables rules do you? | 20:02 |
| `mist_ | 16.04.3 | 20:02 |
| lordcirth_ | `mist_, if it's dropping to emergency, there should be an error message? | 20:02 |
| `mist_ | yeah it says something about iSCSI FAILED during the boot | 20:02 |
| hays_ | nacc: can't take it off not an option unfortunately | 20:02 |
| nacc | hays_: but it's an option to have it not work? :) | 20:02 |
| hays_ | Tenkawa: not sure. DOn't think so | 20:02 |
| iosecure | nacc: Asking the real questions. :) | 20:03 |
| `mist_ | i can't ssh into it, not sure why, sshd is running. i'm assuming its one of the things that's broken | 20:03 |
| Tenkawa | hays_: you dont use the firewall do you? | 20:03 |
| hays_ | nacc: the machine is in another state. I could get on an airplane. rather not | 20:03 |
| `mist_ | so the only access i have is console, which makes it hard for me to copy and paste | 20:03 |
| nacc | hays_: you have console access? take the network down and bring up just lo | 20:03 |
| hays_ | Tenkawa: I didn't configure this machine. I don't think fw is on, and I don't think any filters are enabled | 20:03 |
| lordcirth_ | `mist_, if you have a smartphone handy, you could screenshot & upload to imgur | 20:03 |
| Tenkawa | ok.. just wanted to make sure someone hadnt possibly changed a rule making things act up | 20:04 |
| hays_ | I have ILO access.. I'd need to figure that out. another person knows how to do that. Hey guys I need to run so I might drop off. THanks for the help, I might be back later. This is a real stumper | 20:04 |
| Tenkawa | wheew thank goodness for ilo | 20:04 |
| `mist_ | is there any way i can get the info from bootup to show when logged into the emergency mode? it's not in dmesg | 20:05 |
| Voziv | pragmaticenigma: (popey) I created a thread on snapcraft.io as requested: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/slack-opening-file-browser-firefox-and-chrome-in-the-snaps-context/8969 | 20:05 |
| Tenkawa | `mist_: does this machine run off of iscsi storage? if not what kind? | 20:05 |
| hays_ | how do i check if fw is disabled? | 20:06 |
| popey | Voziv: thank you! | 20:06 |
| `mist_ | Tenkawa: it's a vm, so i'm guessing it's vmware virtual iscsi controller | 20:06 |
| hays_ | I checked iptables-save and its empty | 20:06 |
| `mist_ | ufw status hays_ | 20:06 |
| Tenkawa | `mist_: thanks | 20:06 |
| hays_ | ok inactive | 20:06 |
| Tenkawa | saved me having to look that u p | 20:07 |
| Tenkawa | er up | 20:07 |
| `mist_ | =) | 20:07 |
| hays_ | this is so weird. how could it be getting a GUID from another machine on the network and I don't see traffic over 9080 | 20:07 |
| hays_ | on any interface | 20:07 |
| `mist_ | i help someone, someone else helps me, karma and so on | 20:07 |
| lordcirth_ | hays_, some sort of vpn/tunnel, probably? | 20:07 |
| lordcirth_ | `mist_, so, can you upload a screenshot of the vm error? | 20:07 |
| `mist_ | lordcirth_: yeah i'm rebooting it now to get the error to show | 20:08 |
| Tenkawa | `mist_: did you say you were able to pastebin or not? | 20:08 |
| Tenkawa | ahh good | 20:08 |
| hays_ | i guess i could try to strace? | 20:08 |
| `mist_ | https://drive.google.com/file/d/14afOgavhNYEMe-nF6FFlBuvSRsw-ClcV/view?usp=sharing | 20:11 |
| `mist_ | here is one | 20:11 |
| `mist_ | https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AbCwUUQvBGqYC6qf29otPK4YAGlscSkZ/view?usp=sharing | 20:11 |
| pragmaticenigma | Voziv: sounds like a good plan, will keep an eye on it for its progress | 20:11 |
| `mist_ | there might have been more but those are the only ones i managed to snap | 20:11 |
| lordcirth_ | `mist_, ok, so it seems it's unable to mount some filesystems. In the shell, look in /etc/fstab and see what it's trying to mount | 20:13 |
| Tenkawa | yeah | 20:13 |
| lordcirth_ | Also look in journalctl -xb like it says | 20:13 |
| `mist_ | i can't run journalctl -xb, it says the 'main' package is not installed and tells me to install systemd =/ | 20:14 |
| lordcirth_ | fun | 20:14 |
| Tenkawa | definitely looks storage related | 20:14 |
| lordcirth_ | lsblk -f ? | 20:14 |
| lordcirth_ | I suspect even / might not be mounted properly | 20:14 |
| `mist_ | not sure what output to expect there, it looks reasonable | 20:14 |
| `mist_ | root is mounted correctly it seems | 20:14 |
| lordcirth_ | Your filesystems show up? | 20:14 |
| `mist_ | yeah, there is just root and a swap partition that isn't mounted | 20:15 |
| lordcirth_ | ext4? | 20:15 |
| Tenkawa | correct sizes> | 20:15 |
| `mist_ | yeah | 20:15 |
| Tenkawa | er ? | 20:15 |
| Tenkawa | read write or read only? | 20:15 |
| `mist_ | its not showing sizes in that command but df -h shows correct sizes | 20:15 |
| Tenkawa | if read omly go to /sbin | 20:15 |
| `mist_ | writeable, i just changed fstab to comment out some nfs shares just to make sure | 20:15 |
| Tenkawa | lordcirth_: ubuntu's fsck has a nochange option right to test check right? | 20:16 |
| * Tenkawa is use to debian | 20:16 | |
| iosecure | fsck has that in general | 20:16 |
| Tenkawa | iosecure: i never assume what distros change | 20:17 |
| Tenkawa | I've been burned before | 20:17 |
| `mist_ | there seems to be some other errors before the ones i screenshotted | 20:17 |
| `mist_ | but i can't catch them, its too fast. Any way we can see the "boot console log" from maintenance mode? | 20:17 |
| iosecure | If you've seen a difference that dramatic in a standard utility, it's likely due to a version difference, not a distro difference. | 20:18 |
| Tenkawa | journalctl will show you | 20:18 |
| `mist_ | and i an't run journalctl =D | 20:18 |
| Tenkawa | doh thats right | 20:18 |
| SlidingHorn | is there a way for me to figure out which, if any, packages are incompatible with python3 and must use python2 instead? | 20:18 |
| nacc | SlidingHorn: why do you ask? | 20:18 |
| iosecure | SlidingHorn: If you have packages installed that require either one, they'll pull it in as a dependency. | 20:18 |
| * Tenkawa tries to remember the raw device/char it pulls that from | 20:19 | |
| `mist_ | if i try to install systemd (to repair) it says Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels:12 Extra junk at end of file | 20:19 |
| SlidingHorn | nacc: I'm setting up Atom for a python IDE and it would make my life easier if python2.7 weren't installed at all | 20:19 |
| `mist_ | oh boyyyy | 20:19 |
| Tenkawa | `mist_: ouch | 20:19 |
| `mist_ | that file is corrupted | 20:19 |
| SlidingHorn | (if that wouldn't mess up other applications, that is) | 20:19 |
| `mist_ | if i vim it half shows up and the rest is just jibberish | 20:19 |
| iosecure | SlidingHorn: Then try removing python2.7 and see which other packages it wants to remove. | 20:19 |
| nacc | SlidingHorn: try to remove python2.7 and see what breaks. (i recommend -s to simulate) | 20:20 |
| nacc | SlidingHorn: but, afaik, there are still archive packages tghat rely on python2 | 20:20 |
| Tenkawa | you might want to shutdown the vm and do an integrity check on its storage | 20:20 |
| lordcirth_ | `mist_, dmesg | 20:20 |
| SlidingHorn | ...that's a "no" hahaha - it would pull out half of my DE | 20:21 |
| iosecure | Then there you go. | 20:21 |
| lordcirth_ | And yeah, it's possible the vm disk format is corrupted, in which case you won't fix it from inside the VM | 20:21 |
| Tenkawa | lordcirth_: yeah i'm worried it mightve happened outside the vm | 20:22 |
| Younder | Did i mation I one tried to install Python 3 as standard only to find half of ubuntu's intefrace failed ;) | 20:22 |
| `mist_ | first error is proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.automount: Refusing to start, unit to trigger not loaded | 20:22 |
| nacc | Younder: well, that's not supported so ... no duh? :) | 20:22 |
| Younder | nacc, This was back in 2006 and i didn't know any better.. | 20:23 |
| ioria | `mist_, have you already run fsck ? | 20:23 |
| nacc | Younder: fair enough was also much worse to do so back then | 20:23 |
| `mist_ | ioria: i have not, how do i unmount root and run it without everything going haywire? | 20:23 |
| ioria | `mist_, from Recovery | 20:24 |
| `mist_ | fsck won't execute properly it seems | 20:25 |
| ioria | `mist_, what does it mean ? | 20:25 |
| `mist_ | /lib/recovery-mode/recovery-menu: line 79: /bin/systemctl: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error | 20:25 |
| `mist_ | most likely the systemctl binary is corrupt | 20:25 |
| ioria | `mist_, use a livecd | 20:25 |
| `mist_ | i think i'm going to cut my losses and call it a night... i'll try and save all the files i can from the machine and see where i end up | 20:27 |
| lordcirth_ | `mist_, you don't have backups? | 20:27 |
| `mist_ | i do, but they're old | 20:27 |
| iosecure | Then you don't have backups. | 20:28 |
| `mist_ | =) | 20:28 |
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| Younder | On the whole I have learn't alo of things since then. Like keep loca installations in /usr/local and back them up seperately. Preferably keep them in a seperate partion. | 20:28 |
| lordcirth_ | back them up separately? Do you keep state in /usr/local? | 20:29 |
| `mist_ | oh wait i think i might be able to salvage this | 20:29 |
| Younder | Asl /usr/local has etc directories use them instead of /etc | 20:29 |
| `mist_ | i've got zfs snapshots of this iscsi block | 20:29 |
| `mist_ | daily | 20:29 |
| IdahoMan | newbe here ... Anybody used RUFUS or ETCHER with 18.10 desktop ? | 20:30 |
| Younder | lordcirth_, No I sometimes do a full reinstall. And then I wnat te clean of installed from CD. Then I use a salt-stack script to install additional packages. The I reinstall /usr/local and /home | 20:30 |
| iosecure | Yes. Run it in DD mode. | 20:30 |
| lordcirth_ | Younder, so, what's in /usr/local that isn't in Salt? | 20:31 |
| ioria | IdahoMan, it does not work ? | 20:31 |
| Younder | lordcirth_, THat dependo on you, I have Mathemaica, Unigine, fes | 20:31 |
| IdahoMan | Thats the funny part ... it does on the 18.04 LTS but I cant get a bootable USB on the 18.10 desktop ... | 20:32 |
| lordcirth_ | IdahoMan, sure the ISO downloaded correctly? | 20:32 |
| ioria | IdahoMan, how it fails ? | 20:32 |
| IdahoMan | good question ... downloaded it several times ... always looks the same on the disk ... did not do any digital (sha etc) checks | 20:33 |
| Younder | That rearly fails.. | 20:34 |
| IdahoMan | Says that two files are missing at boot time ... (should have written the names) | 20:34 |
| IdahoMan | Have used RUFUS before ... its been reliable ... Etcher is new try | 20:35 |
| lordcirth_ | IdahoMan, yeah, check what files fail and tell us | 20:36 |
| lordcirth_ | Was it the kernel and initrd? | 20:36 |
| Younder | lordcirth_, They are propriatary so I can't share them | 20:36 |
| IdahoMan | Will do ... will be back later | 20:36 |
| IdahoMan | bye for now | 20:36 |
| ioria | IdahoMan, maybe this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1798171 | 20:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1798171 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "System fails to boot with \EFI\BOOT\mmx64.efi - Not Found" [Undecided,Fix released] | 20:37 |
| IdahoMan | tks | 20:37 |
| IdahoMan | that looks familar | 20:37 |
| ioria | IdahoMan, not confident, but try to disable secure boot | 20:38 |
| IdahoMan | tks | 20:38 |
| IdahoMan | quit | 20:38 |
| serard | hello | 20:38 |
| Younder | ioria, Done that one. Luckely don't need it anymore now that NVIDIA has sha256 | 20:39 |
| serard | i'm using 18.04 : what is listening on port 53 ? | 20:39 |
| ioria | IdahoMan, /quit maybe | 20:39 |
| iosecure | serard: Likely resolved running its local resolver. Port 53 is DNS. | 20:39 |
| iosecure | serard: ps -ef | grep resolved | 20:40 |
| teward | serard: likely, it'd be resolved | 20:40 |
| Younder | For the record Ubuntu checks athe signatue of all files on startup using sha256. If a system fails to provide this it fails | 20:40 |
| teward | blah beaten | 20:40 |
| teward | (mobile interenet is sloowwwww) | 20:40 |
| iosecure | Younder: Not all. Very few, in fact. | 20:40 |
| Tenkawa | sudo netstat -anp | grep 53 | 20:40 |
| serard | . /lib/systemd/systemd-resolved | 20:40 |
| * Younder like fiber .. 512 Mb/s urr | 20:40 | |
| iosecure | serard: Correct. That's the default configuration. | 20:40 |
| serard | how can I disable this ? | 20:40 |
| iosecure | serard: You don't. | 20:40 |
| iosecure | serard: You didn't even know what it was, why would you then ask how to disable it? You don't know what you're disabling. | 20:41 |
| serard | I want to install PowerDNS | 20:41 |
| popey | serard: do you no longer want to be able to access other hosts? (like, websites) | 20:41 |
| Tenkawa | that will tell you process is bound to port 53 | 20:41 |
| serard | and it cannot bind 53 because... there's a dns server | 20:41 |
| Younder | iosecure, Can you elaborate? | 20:41 |
| iosecure | serard: You didn't know how to determine what's listening on a port, but you want to run a DNS server? | 20:42 |
| serard | iosecure, yes, I'm skipping steps, sorry | 20:42 |
| * Tenkawa agrees with iosecure | 20:42 | |
| Tenkawa | dns is not something to take lightly | 20:42 |
| Tenkawa | or to jump into | 20:42 |
| iosecure | Younder: For secure boot purposes, integrity checks are run on a very small number of files. Only those involved in booting, really. | 20:42 |
| Tenkawa | without doing proper research | 20:42 |
| iosecure | serard: Running a DNS server without a very good understanding of DNS mechanics will turn you into a vector for denial of service attacks, among many other security issues. | 20:43 |
| serard | I need a simple service that let me map DNSes to IPs within a WLAN. Already done that. Want to re-do it again :) | 20:43 |
| Younder | iosecure, well yes, but that involves critical device drivers, yes | 20:43 |
| serard | It's not for "production" use, it is for development environment use | 20:43 |
| lordcirth_ | serard, should be ok if you make sure it's not accessible from the outside | 20:43 |
| iosecure | Younder: And that's it. Your statement of "For the record Ubuntu checks athe signatue of all files on startup..." was inaccurate. | 20:43 |
| iosecure | lordcirth_: No. | 20:43 |
| lordcirth_ | iosecure, how so? | 20:43 |
| iosecure | It's 2018. The notion that 'internal' networks are more trustworthy than external ones should have died years ago. | 20:44 |
| Younder | iosecure, That is why I asked for a specification. | 20:44 |
| Tenkawa | indeed | 20:44 |
| serard | how so running a pdns as local dns server with rest api to manipulate it (some thing like software defined thing) | 20:44 |
| Tenkawa | whats internal vs external now | 20:44 |
| Tenkawa | everything is connected | 20:44 |
| lordcirth_ | iosecure, I'm unaware of a DOS attack involving DNS that works without the attacker being able to send DNS requests to the server? | 20:45 |
| iosecure | lordcirth_: "among many other security issues." | 20:45 |
| iosecure | lordcirth_: Words have meaning. If DoS attacks were the only issue, I wouldn't have used additional words. | 20:45 |
| lordcirth_ | iosecure, ok, so could you give an example, then? | 20:45 |
| iosecure | In general, treating internal networks as safe, and therefore okay to do dumb stuff on, is a fallacy. | 20:46 |
| lordcirth_ | Ok, that's a reasonable point. | 20:46 |
| iosecure | If you wouldn't put it on the internet, don't put it on your internal network, either. Rational exceptions are made for things that are only designed to function on internal networks. Samba, etc. | 20:47 |
| Younder | I usually block ports on all my machines and only explicitly allow them if I use them to avoid suprises | 20:48 |
| lordcirth_ | iosecure, ok, so how does he get DNS on his LAN, then? | 20:48 |
| Younder | UFW is your friend | 20:48 |
| iosecure | lordcirth_: By learning how the hell DNS works and how to properly admin a DNS service, of course. Not knowing how to check what process is using a port doesn't suggest that he has the expertise needed to run a DNS server properly. | 20:48 |
| serard | waaaah, I'm sooo sorry for being so duummb. | 20:49 |
| Younder | iosecure, DNS is hard to master. The Oreilly book on Bind helps, but it if far to easy to make a boo-boo | 20:49 |
| lordcirth_ | iosecure, fair enough, though it occurs to me that it *shouldnt* require a lot of expertise to do such a simple and common thing simply. It suggests a tooling problem. | 20:49 |
| iosecure | serard: What are you using for a router? | 20:49 |
| iosecure | lordcirth_: Many foundational network services suck. | 20:50 |
| lordcirth_ | s/simply/safely/ | 20:50 |
| lordcirth_ | true dat | 20:50 |
| iosecure | lordcirth_: And that's the root of the problem. These services were never designed with security or hostile use in mind. | 20:50 |
| iosecure | See also: SMTP. | 20:50 |
| chrismatthews | Anyone familiar with pci-dss? I'm wondering if using *.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org for time servers is the best practice, and that is documented anyplace. | 20:50 |
| iosecure | chrismatthews: Most of the ntp.org pools provide acceptable time sync for PCI-DSS purposes. | 20:50 |
| iosecure | chrismatthews: You could use a regional pool, if you wish. us.pool.ntp.org | 20:51 |
| Younder | chrismatthews, I have synced my personal cluster to it for years, never a problem | 20:51 |
| iosecure | chrismatthews: Realistically, you won't get better time sync without running your own stratum 1 server, i.e. connected to a GPS receiver. | 20:52 |
| chrismatthews | Thanks, I thought so. I did get a question about it so I am wondering if that is documented as an industry best practice | 20:52 |
| iosecure | chrismatthews: If they really want to get antsy, use NIST's time server. | 20:52 |
| Younder | I have systems that test for 'skew'. That is system configuration issues that are different from machine to machine | 20:52 |
| iosecure | chrismatthews: time.nist.gov | 20:53 |
| chrismatthews | good point, thanks. | 20:54 |
| Younder | GPS is cantally controlled by a atomic clock in Boulder Colorado.. | 20:54 |
| iosecure | Servers, more accurately. | 20:54 |
| serard | iosecure, I'm running a VM using vbox driven by vagrant. I want a simple service that let me map IP=DNS and with a simple REST api to manage thoses. This is basically what pdns gives me. | 20:54 |
| Younder | centrally | 20:54 |
| Ben64 | Younder: no | 20:55 |
| Younder | Ben64, no what? | 20:56 |
| Ben64 | gps doesn't work how you describe | 20:56 |
| iosecure | They themselves are atomic clocks of fantastic accuracy. | 20:56 |
| Ben64 | bingo | 20:57 |
| Younder | GPS is satellites in orbit, but the control center is in Boulder Colorado. | 20:57 |
| Younder | iosecure, right | 20:57 |
| iosecure | Actually, it's the 2nd SOPS at Schiever AFB. | 20:58 |
| iosecure | Colorado Springs. | 20:58 |
| lordcirth_ | Regardless, there are reasons that GLONASS exists | 21:01 |
| Younder | Whatever redundancy is good | 21:02 |
| technobi | 2018-12-13 00:00:00 | ETH | 92.465 LOL | 21:25 |
| technobi | Sorry | 21:25 |
| D[4]ni | Hey, so I upgraded to 18.10 yesterday and my notifications don't match my theme anymore :( | 21:27 |
| D[4]ni | They're just plain white | 21:27 |
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| Bob_Dole | are there any known issues with the ryzen 5 2500U, and specifically dell lattitude 5575's where the graphics doesn't work right? every other reboot it seems like it fails to read the vbios portions of the bios and can't start the gpu, here's a snippet of dmesg I think is relevant https://pastebin.com/x7MB1Bvv | 22:01 |
| Bob_Dole | I've tested plain, and on various PPAs, ubuntu 18.04 and 18.10 and all of it gets the same behavior, where sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. | 22:02 |
| acebrianjuan | Hi all | 22:09 |
| acebrianjuan | I'm using 18.04 | 22:09 |
| acebrianjuan | I'd like to know if there's a simple way to hide the files on my desktop or switch to a different desktop | 22:10 |
| OerHeks | acebrianjuan, gnome-tweak tool can do that, hiding desktop icons | 22:11 |
| OerHeks | !info gnome-tweak | 22:11 |
| ubottu | Package gnome-tweak does not exist in bionic | 22:11 |
| acebrianjuan | I'm about to record my screen to make a video tutorial and I'd like to have my desktop clean | 22:11 |
| OerHeks | !info gnome-tweak-tool | 22:11 |
| ubottu | gnome-tweak-tool (source: gnome-tweaks): adjust advanced settings for GNOME - transitional package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.28.1-1 (bionic), package size 1 kB, installed size 12 kB | 22:11 |
| OerHeks | show icons/disable icons/show mounted drives only .. | 22:12 |
| acebrianjuan | ok, gnome-tweak-tool seems to do the job | 22:15 |
| acebrianjuan | thank you guys | 22:15 |
| OerHeks | have fun! | 22:15 |
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| squidthesid | Does anyone have experience running CentOS in KVM? | 22:31 |
| squidthesid | I'm going through setup and I can't connect to internet | 22:31 |
| nacc | squidthesid: #centos? | 22:31 |
| nacc | squidthesid: this is the ubuntu support channel. | 22:32 |
| squidthesid | Well, I'm running it on a virtual machine in ubuntu | 22:32 |
| squidthesid | but I'll try asking there too | 22:32 |
| nacc | squidthesid: do other guests work in KVM? | 22:32 |
| nacc | squidthesid: how are you using KVM? virt-manager? | 22:32 |
| squidthesid | yeah, virt | 22:32 |
| squidthesid | virt-manaer | 22:32 |
| squidthesid | managed to get it to work, but without networking | 22:32 |
| nacc | squidthesid: how are you expecting networking to work? bridge? NAT? | 22:33 |
| squidthesid | nacc, not sure. Just going through a video tutorial and he's not explaining much. Should I use bridge? | 22:34 |
| squidthesid | He's got it set to eth0 | 22:35 |
| squidthesid | but that's not working for me | 22:35 |
| nacc | squidthesid: well ... you should know this when you are setting up your VMs | 22:36 |
| nacc | squidthesid: eth0 in the guest? it depends on the guest | 22:36 |
| squidthesid | sorry, first time using KVM, so I'm new to it all. | 22:37 |
| squidthesid | I'd assume I'd want a bridged network connection? | 22:37 |
| nacc | squidthesid: normally, without any configuration by you, i believe libvirt will create a virbr0 and use that | 22:38 |
| nacc | squidthesid: and all your guests will be on that virtual subnet (192.168.1.22/24 by default, i believe) | 22:39 |
| nacc | squidthesid: do you have the device? (virbr0) | 22:39 |
| nacc | squidthesid: also, in virt-manager, you should be able to see the guest config, etc. and see what network device and type is attached | 22:40 |
| squidthesid | netlet me check virt-manager | 22:40 |
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| squidthesid | I do have virbr0 | 22:42 |
| squidthesid | according to ifconfig | 22:42 |
| squidthesid | nacc, should I just add a bridge connection to the guest OS? | 22:43 |
| squidthesid | in the setup | 22:44 |
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| nacc | squidthesid: yes, i would try that ... tbh, it's the default, i'm pretty sure | 22:47 |
| nacc | squidthesid: are you doing a virt-install or did you use virt-manager and boot a disk image? | 22:47 |
| squidthesid | virt-manager | 22:48 |
| nacc | squidthesid: have you tried using virt-install directly? | 22:48 |
| squidthesid | According to the virtual network interface, Netwrok is set to Virtual Network default NAT, and Device model is virtio | 22:48 |
| squidthesid | let me try that | 22:48 |
| squidthesid | nacc, I think I found a guide to setup the network on KVM properly using virt-manager. I'll report back and see if that works | 22:52 |
| nacc | squidthesid: gl! | 22:52 |
| squidthesid | thanks. Networking is foreign to me, so I'm going in blind. Sorry about the questions | 22:53 |
| squidthesid | nacc, just one last question. If I'm using a VPN on my host OS, will I need t do anything special for the configuration for the guest OS or will it work as is? | 22:54 |
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| nacc | squidthesid: for the guest to route over the VPN, you mean? | 22:56 |
| squidthesid | yeah. | 22:56 |
| nacc | squidthesid: uh, it depends on the configuration and such, I'm not 100% tbh | 22:56 |
| squidthesid | hmmm. I'll just go with the default and see what happens | 22:57 |
| squidthesid | and tweak if needed | 22:57 |
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| chrismatthews | how can I set up ubuntu 16 to reqiure oth a keyfile and a password? | 23:58 |
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