=== Daemoen is now known as demone === demone is now known as mmercer [00:30] what happened to "-/+ buffers/cache" with `free -mt`? [00:30] chrismatthews, maybe the LUKS pass on usb answer is any help https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19713918/how-to-load-luks-passphrase-from-usb-falling-back-to-keyboard [00:31] is it just the new column instead of a row now? [00:31] yeh nvm looks like its just a col now [00:37] kantlivelong: yes its in the columns now [00:37] not sure how i missed that === killer is now known as killer3 [00:43] hello [00:43] is this a place [00:43] to [00:43] ask for help [00:43] in ubuntu [00:46] oscarvr: yes, however, two things: (1) don't use the enter key as punctuation. (2) ask an actual question to get assistance. [00:47] hello teward Im a beginner in ubuntu [00:47] I installed 18.10 [00:47] my laptop is an acer vx 15 core i5 nvidia gtx 1050 [00:47] oscarvr: Stop pressing enter after every couple words, please. Complete sentences. Describe your issue and ask your question in one go. [00:48] ^ this [00:48] oscarvr: this is nto twitter, you can use actual full sentences and include many thoughts per line. Please do not press enter after every few words. [00:49] ok, I installed ubuntu 18.10 my laptop is an acer vx 15 nvidia gtx 1050, after I log in the desktop and all the icons load but after a few second it is unresponsive [00:53] [00:58] hello. I just scanned an image using 'scanimage --batch' but don't know where the scanned files live [01:03] hi i habe problems with installing ubuntu 18.10 with my nvidia-1060ti optimis the install hangs after a vew minutes (lucky not on at the point that i start partions the hardisk/ssd [01:03] nm. I foudn that the path is simply the pwd [02:04] Been running into an interesting problem with Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS. After installation ( this has happened on 3 different machines now ), moving windows around is SUPER slow. Any idea what could be causing all of this lag specific to simply moving a window around? [02:05] everything else is fine. It's JUST when I try to move a window [02:06] The mouse pointer moves at regular, speed but the windows doesn't follow it. It lags behind greatly [02:07] I'm running gnome-flashback session. I don't know why that would matter though because it worked fine in the previous version of 16.04 [02:07] It's also running with metactiy [02:07] *metacity === capella is now known as capella|away === Yorick_ is now known as Yorick === Yorick is now known as Guest61918 [03:20] Interesting, I'm now also noticing the lag when I use the scrollwheel on my mouse to make text windows scroll up and down === andyhuzhill_ is now known as andyhuzhill [03:33] Are Wacom Tablets supported in Kubuntu 18.04 !? I'm not seeing it if that is the case!? [03:35] My external mic in laptop looks like not working. Any app to test it with? [03:40] hi, does anyone know off hand how to get the power button to actually work to wake up my desktop? I show it enabled in /proc/acpi/wakeup but it doesn't actually wake it and i have to reboot [03:44] Hi [03:44] hello [03:48] Hi [03:52] My external mic in laptop looks like not working. Any app to test it with? === imsurit_ofc is now known as imsurit [04:50] would this at the end of the sshd_config mess up ssh access if sshd -t passed? https://paste.ofcode.org/39i7h7aKdYgR3kNbTa4N2ZV === Ayo is now known as Guest75928 [05:47] I'm trying to print a plain text file in cli using lp. Some lines are too long and wrap. I'd like only the continuation of wrapped lines to print right-aligned. How to? [05:49] any one know why id have @google @amazon come up on my firefox main most visited [05:49] ? [05:50] the only options are unpin and detach [06:01] plutes: thats baked in favorites on firefox [06:02] whats that ? [06:04] plutes: most visited favorites are baked in firefox by default, like amazon, google reddit etc [06:04] plutes: nothing to do with ubuntu [06:08] Need sed help. If a line < 75 characters, and next line < 75 characters, place next line at column 80 of current line. How to (from stdin)? [06:12] A quick question how do I test a specific sshd_config? I could just do sshd -t, but I want to specify a non-standard config. === madmangun is now known as Ue === Ue is now known as isenpai [06:29] Just writing it out: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. [06:30] dpk --get-selections | grep hold returns nothing [06:36] Anyone know if there's an easy way to reverse scroll direction in 18? [06:37] gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad natural-scroll false works for the touchapd [06:37] but about the mouse I don't know [06:38] yep. [06:38] gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.mouse natural-scroll false works for the mouse [06:54] I once found this tool which would create a vm of ubuntu server and let you install apps on it and package it. [06:54] DOes anyone know if that still exists/ [07:00] hi, does anyone know off hand how to get the power button to actually work to wake up my desktop? I show it enabled in /proc/acpi/wakeup but it doesn't actually wake it and i have to reboot === geirha1 is now known as geirha === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius [08:34] is it possible to find out which user installed a package? [08:38] logithack: you can check /var/log/auth.log for the sudo event [08:38] but if they used sudo -i to open a root shell that won't help [08:54] hi guys [08:54] hi [08:54] :D [08:59] am i right in observing that number of ppl here are much less than before? [09:00] The number of people here fluctuates. [09:00] (some aren't actually here, they leave their IRC connected but don't use it) [09:01] ok just observing [09:01] Also, many people left IRC for Slack and other platforms. [09:02] ducasse: i've found what i was looking for, i just logged in as the user i needed via "su " and inspected their .bash_history [09:02] popey, how is slack? [09:03] Pretty, Fat and proprietary [09:03] i thought matrix was the new one [09:04] anyway, it's time to get this rusty old bach an oily upgrade, imo. [09:04] irc is awesome, but anything that isn't being developed is kind of stupid. [09:07] In Ubuntu 18.04 are scripts in /etc/init.d/ still executed at boot? [09:09] Is there no way to see the output of terminal in a log file? [09:09] It just shows my inputs? [09:30] Roden: check out 'script' [09:34] where are system service configs located? [09:35] 'systemctl status freeradius.service' - where does 'freeradius.service' live? [09:38] can anyone explain why terminal is telling me I'm on my intel gpu? Additional drivers says I have two NVIDIA drivers. which should I use? [09:38] the x.org or the NVIDIA. Default is X.Org [09:39] I did a fresh Ubuntu 18.04 LTS install with 4 partitions on SSD: ESP, /, swap, and /home. HDD mounted separately as storage drive. I was just wondering whether partitioning can ever be the cause of other software problems. Like firefox is bugged every startup, teamviewer hangs, new GTX 2080 is severely underperforming. Or is it just a perfectly normal experience for things to not work smoothly out of the box? [09:40] zetheroo: try /lib/systemd/system [09:41] zetheroo: or /etc/systemd/system [09:41] ducasse: ok thanks - found it in the first one [09:42] zetheroo: ypu could also have found it with 'locate freeradius.service [09:43] apeman, yes, it can. [09:44] ducasse: The issue I am having is that Freeradius requires /tmp/radiusd to exist and to be owned by user freerad. I had three lines in the /etc/init.d/freeradius file which took care of this on boot, but since upgrading to 18.04 it's no longer working. [09:44] So I suspected that the /etc/init.d/freeradius file is no longer being executed on boot [09:44] Is this correct? [09:45] Roden: But why/how? Does some software assume things are on the same partition? [09:46] I mean at least they're on the same SSD [09:46] you're making a broad statement, apeman . [09:46] if you're looking only at installing apps that have been reviewed, then the range of possible issues is reduced. [09:46] If you're only installing minor packages and libraries, the risks continue to be reduced. [09:47] zetheroo: if there is a systemd service with the same name, maybe not - i can't say for sure [09:47] but when you have some massive software (which I'm sure you do), it's just possible that it could add a level of difficulty to an error somewhere along the line. [09:48] ducasse: right, that would make sense. Now I am wondering if those three commands can be placed into the service file [09:48] I think it's not likely that you will encounter problems based on the partition layout you've used. You haven't given much info about them.... [09:48] what is ESP? [09:49] EFI system partition. Ubuntu is booting in UEFI mode so it's required. [09:50] Those partitions seem fairly standard so I have no reason to believe you'll get in trouble. I wonder if you can resize them all? [09:50] I'm kind of on a refresher course, myself. [09:50] It probably solves more problems than it fixes to have multiple partitions like that. [09:50] Well the ESP is 550MB, / is 30GB, swap is 32GB (I have 32GB RAM), the rest is /home. I can reinstall everything in one unified partition if necessary [09:51] maybe use a bigger swap [09:51] so /home is like at least 250 gb [09:51] ~450GB [09:51] all the less reason to worry [09:52] I don't think there are many (if any) matter-of-course issues with having multiple partitions like that. [09:52] You're on 18.04? [09:52] apeman: do you use hibernation? [09:52] oh, that's one I remember. [09:53] ducasse: I am going to try it at the least, as I'm going to use Wake On Lan [09:53] but yeah that's the reason why my swap is so big [09:55] the swap size should be okay. [09:57] What could be the problem, if Ubuntu doesn't prompt (UI) for updates? Updating via cli works just fine, but non-technical people will not do that. [09:57] hasdf_: your ubuntu version please? [09:57] hasdf_, most likely the update setting is "off" [09:57] Is there a setting to just prompt for security updates somewhre? [09:57] LTS 18.04 [09:57] yep. system settings [09:57] hey cfhowlett [09:57] yowza^3 lotuspsychje [09:58] does anyone know off hand how to get the power button/kb/mouse to actually work to wake up my desktop from suspend? I show it enabled in /proc/acpi/wakeup but it doesn't actually wake it and i have to reboot [09:59] cfhowlett: thanks. Will the Updater update third-party software? (e.g. Signal messenger added to sources.list [10:00] arch1mede: suspend/hibernate has a lot of acpi bugs across several brands, a few ideas: upgrade your bios to latest, try out other kernels, pastebin your syslog/dmesg and finally create a new specific !bug on your system [10:00] hasdf_, as in not from the software center. I think not. [10:00] man there MUST be a way to switch the active GPU on ubuntu [10:00] anyone here know how at all? [10:01] Roden: you have an optimus/hybrid card? [10:01] lotuspsychje, i have a 980 nvidia dedicated [10:01] but i'm seeing intel as the active VGA [10:01] Roden: if you card has optimus, you need an active nvidia driver + nvidia-prime installed [10:02] Roden: after that you can choose between performance mode vs powersvaing mode from nvidia-settings [10:02] Roden, I had intel/nvidia. switched between the 2 with nvida-prime [10:02] *powersaving [10:02] that's arleady installed [10:02] how do you switch [10:03] Roden, not at my machine at present, but I recall launching prime and selecting the other gpu. IIRC, logout/login was required [10:03] how do you launch it though [10:04] i'm searching it [10:04] Roden: nvidia-prime gets auto installed when installing the nvidia driver [10:06] Roden: software&updates tab additional drivers will show you wich driver you have active currently [10:06] i think i need to log out, boys [10:06] Roden, check this https://www.linuxbabe.com/desktop-linux/switch-intel-nvidia-graphics-card-ubuntu [10:07] Is it possible to add custom commands to a service startup config? [10:08] zetheroo: yes, you can also set them to run before or after the service is started. check the docs [10:08] hello. I need to pass to the terminal curs_inopts when i run some perl script [10:09] https://linux.die.net/man/3/curs_inopts [10:09] how to do that? [10:10] nightmare guys. i'll see if i can figure this out [10:34] ducasse: is this the docs you refer to? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man5/systemd.service.5.html [10:50] ach ... this used to be so simple [10:50] :/ [11:01] still cant figure out on this system why 127.0.0.1 is somehow getting to another machine on the network [11:01] tcpdump filtered by port doesn't show it leaving any interfaces, but I see it on the receiving end--i think on lo of all place [11:01] i don't see any ssh clients running [11:02] iptables is clear, ufw is off... [11:20] hays: try ##networking ? [11:21] yeah, was asking around in there earlier too. [11:21] thing is, i suspect this is not in the network equipment but is a configuration issue on the server(s) [11:28] hays: you running ubuntu servers? [11:28] yes [11:28] hays: join in #ubuntu-server for debug perhaps? [11:32] I cannot find anyone online who is placing multiple commands in services startup config files [11:34] Hi how do i change dns, rightnonw it is set to 127.0.0.53 and internal dns is not working on my domain [11:35] have triet editing netplan and doing netplan aply have edited /etc&resolf.conf [11:46] jcal1981 what does dig google.com show ? [11:52] Does anyone know how to add custom commands to a service startup config? [12:00] Hey folks [12:08] jca1981: First, you don't edit resolv.conf directly. Second, netplan generate, THEN netplan apply. [12:08] jca1981: If that doesn't work, the output of 'networkctl status' would be helpful. [12:10] Hi. Any idea if I can get some confidential information redacted on irclogs.ubuntu.com? I've asked in ops channel, but idk if it's the right channel to ask or not. [12:11] That would the correct channel, but that's a long shot. Once something's on the internet, its out forever. [12:11] Sites get indexed, kept in archives, etc. [12:12] Yea... It sucks, espcially if you had the internet when you were young like me. [12:12] Sorry. :/ [12:13] I guess it's not that bad. It's probably just my name. [12:13] Cheers for the reply. I'll probably just ignore it for now. [12:38] Hi guys. I remembered powertop to give out current power used in watts. But firing it up after a while I cannot find that info anymore. Where did that move? [12:39] RobBurke, desktop or laptop ? [12:39] laptop [12:39] RobBurke, are you plugged ? [12:39] oh wait... the power cord [12:39] yep [12:40] I feel so dumb right now -.- [12:41] no worries === dbugger is now known as Dbugger [12:49] during a swapoff-a i got this, swapoff: /dev/zd0: swapoff failed: Cannot allocate memory [12:51] server has aboutr 80G free ram of 120G [12:56] killall: it is "swapoff -a".... there is a space [13:07] TRPM8, bad typo here :) othwerise it would be command not found ;) [13:09] kilall: ok, just wanted to be sure [13:09] TRPM8, any hint? Im really stuck here :( [13:09] Hi. I'm using ubuntu 18.10 with gnome (standard). When I shut the lid of my laptop, it does not lock the computer. How do I change that? I don't see any obvious mentions of the lid in the settings under "Power" where it used to be. [13:11] killall: looks like not enough RAM? try to killall unnecessary apps, drop all caches from memory and ten swapoff [13:11] Galaxor: I don't know with 18.10 but with 18.04 it is not in energy settings but in confidenciality's [13:12] killall: or a honger process... [13:13] Ool: Hmm. There's a "Privacy" tab. "Automatic screen lock: On". "Lock screen after blank for: Screen turns off". "Show Notifications: On". [13:13] TRPM8, amlmost 50% of ram free (77GB) cached 5G. i doubt it cant cache [13:14] killall: strange. [13:16] killall: how big is the swap? [13:18] So, I have an Asus - Z87-A. I had windows installed on my computer, but have just changed over to ubuntu. I've usually never had problems with this. However, once I boot into the OS once after installing, If i restart, my computer freezes at the motherboard splashscreen. Any ideas what could be going on? [13:18] The only way I can un-freeze it is to reset cmos, and unplug the drives attatched to PC. [13:19] TRPM8, 120GB of total ram, 45 used ram, 8 Gb of total swap, 5 GB of swap used [13:45] Hello ! I am trying to use this https://gist.github.com/t184256/f4994037a2a204774ef3b9a2b38736dc but I am getting [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/dev/input/xxx' [13:45] running this a sudo works fine [13:46] How can I make this work with my current user? === SimonNL is now known as _SimonNL [13:58] add current user to input group [13:58] hello is it possible to encrypt my whole disk after installation? post -install? [13:58] afx_: sudo adduser "$USER" input [13:59] pagios: not with LUKS [13:59] you need to encrypt partition before install [14:00] afx_: after that you need to log in for the group membership to take effect, or you can try it out in the current terminal by running newgrp input (which gives you a new shell where input is added to your list of group memberships) === Ayo is now known as Guest35478 [14:14] thank you very much geirha [14:45] Technically, it's possible with the reencrypt patch for LUKS, but it's definitely not meant for beginners. === Ayo is now known as Guest63305 [14:46] I need to troubleshoot a problem with my Bluetooth mouse not reconnecting after an idle timeout, a resume from suspend, or a reboot. [14:46] Is there a troubleshooting doc somewhere that's updated for 18.04 that I can follow? [14:47] (This seems to be a common problem, but the fixes I tried aren't working.) [15:07] hey, I tried downgrading from ubuntu 18.10 to ubuntu 18.04, because I had some issues with 18.10. Now, trying to install stuff with apt-get gives an "error: unknown flag `from-apt'" message. [15:07] is there anything I can do, or should I just reinstall? [15:08] mort: downgrading isnt really a valid way of doing things [15:09] mort: try to reinstall 18.04 and save your /home from there perhaps [15:09] I know it's not really supported === capella|away is now known as capella [15:11] should i modify the configuration https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel#Modifying_the_configuration if i want to build linux kernel HEAD with a patch ? [15:11] ph88^: we dont advice to compile own kernel here, try to use !mainline instead [15:12] ph88^: or ##kernel perhaps? === _SimonNL is now known as SimonNL [15:12] any idea what program could produce the "error: unknown flag `from-apt'" error message though? Or what steps apt is trying to take which are failing? [15:13] lotuspsychje, i want to compile the kernel to test out a patch [15:16] any reason you dont create a !bug against ther kernel failing? [15:24] good day [15:24] mort: wich command did you enter to get that error? [15:25] lotuspsychje: just 'sudo apt-get install ' [15:26] but I'm in the middle of just installing 18.04 now [15:26] mort: allrighty, good luck [15:28] mort: if you're in the middle of an install, you should not be using apt or apt-get. [15:29] nacc: you're missing some context, I tried downgrading from 18.10 to 18.04, apt-get broke in the way I described, and now I'm just clean installing 18.04 [15:30] mort: oh ok [15:31] mort: yes, apt will break in that case probably becuse downgrading isn't a thing. [15:32] well, it's something people want to do whether canonical wants it or not, and there's plenty of guides on the web about how to do it, some even specifically from 18.10 to 18.04 [15:33] the internet is not a source of truth. [15:33] never said it was [15:33] and this discussion has nothing to with canonical, don't strawman [15:33] it doesn't work, and isn't supported by anyone who actually knows what they are doing. [15:34] doesn't it have everything to do with canonical? Isn't it they who haven't decided to support downgrading? [15:34] no [15:34] I'm not saying they should have done it, it would be more work than it's work I presume, but they certainly could invest a bunch of resources in making downgrades a thing [15:35] mort: installing ubuntu takes like 15min, why the effort of messing around anyhow? [15:36] lotuspsychje: well, if it was as simple as just changing sources.list and pinning packages to bionic, it would've been faster than reinstalling [15:36] mort: even if it was possible, downgrading from a non-lts to LTS is already a bad idea [15:37] mort: it's not, just like upgrades are not. Drop it. [15:37] why would it have been a bad idea if it was possible and unproblematic? [15:37] lets continue this in #ubuntu-discuss mort [15:37] can anybody help me after i went asnd disabled pulseaudio i am getting no sound from firefox? [15:38] gt8ost4l: did you replace pulseaudio with something else? [15:38] nacc: yes alsa [15:38] there's not really anything to continue, I asked if there was something to do and there wasn't, I'm not complaining about or demanding or criticizing anything [15:38] gt8ost4l: and did you verify your alsa config works? [15:39] nacc: what do you mean by alsa config? [15:39] gt8ost4l: like do you have sound via `aplay` ? [15:40] nacc: it all works chrome clementine but mot firefox [15:41] gt8ost4l, FF requires pulseaudio [15:41] BluesKaj: good info :) [15:42] BluesKaj: so there is no a method for ff to support alsa? [15:44] gt8ost4l, no, read https://support.mozilla.org/nl/questions/1209469 === SimonNL is now known as _SimonNL [15:45] gt8ost4l, pulseaudio rides on top of alsa, it doesn't replace alsa, most audio chips need pulseaudio nowadays. You can make alsa do all the work on your music and movies etc, but not on web audio thru a browser, pulseaudio is a must these dats [15:46] dats=days [15:59] Hello! I went to the System & Updates and it says there are no additional drivers available, is that normal? [16:00] Mesp: depends on your hardware and repository configuration. [16:00] I currently have an Acer Swift 3 which should have an MX150 and an i5 in it and it's currently using the i5 but I can't seem to be able to switch it to MX150 so that's where the problems started. [16:01] Mesp: does `lspci` show both devices? [16:01] Also when I open nvidia-settings I get "ERROR: Error querying enabled displays on GPU 0 (Missing Extension)." and that Prime isn't supported when it should [16:01] Mesp: what version of ubuntu, as well [16:01] The only VGA is "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 620 (rev 07)" [16:02] 384.59 gives support for mx150 [16:02] the driver tool can take up to a minute to load available drivers [16:02] No, it says "No available drivers." [16:02] OerHeks: i assume the device should already be visible via `lspci` ? [16:02] nacc yes [16:03] vassilios@swift:~$ lspci | grep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 620 (rev 07) [16:03] Mesp: OerHeks: i guess check bios settings? [16:03] Mesp, nacc, i think so too, set the nvidia as primairy? [16:04] I tried that and on UEFI and on Advanced it says only Intel VTX, intel VTD and SATA Configuration [16:05] I did "sudo prime-select nvidia" and it says with "prime-query" nvidia even after restart but it doesn't seem like it's the nvidia one [16:08] I will try to install 384.59 and see [16:10] OerHeks: dunno, i don't think installing the driver would matter if the device isn't visible, right? I've never used such devices [16:15] maybe nomodeset is used === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh === andyhuzhill_ is now known as andyhuzhill [16:22] Hi I'm trying to mount a smb share on ubuntu server. But get this error: [16:22] mount error(115): Operation now in progress [16:22] Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs) [16:22] Any ideas what the problem is? I couldn't find anything in the man pages [16:23] im0nde: the messages are generic on any error with mount.cifs, iirc [16:23] im0nde: have you tried the debugging steps in https://superuser.com/questions/430163/cifs-share-mount-errors ? [16:24] Hello [16:24] Whenever I try to install 384.59 it says "You do not appear to have an NVIDIA GPU supported by 384.59" which is weird because I do. [16:27] nacc: trying it out. I can't ping it, it seems that Microsoft (it's a azure share) has disabled ping [16:27] I can nslookup it though [16:28] Hey everyone.. I recently installed ubuntu 18.10 and when I try to connect to ppp through NetworkManager, It connects and disconnects after a few seconds. but When I try to connect through wvdial It works fine.. Any fixes? [16:31] Dave_Elec: anything from journalctl indicating a problem? [16:31] im0nde: well, ping is commonlyh blocked and isn't a valid indication of much :) [16:35] I had working 5.1 sound via intel audio on my ubuntu 18.04 system up to and after updating with the recent kernel updates and such. I plugged in a USB headset to use temporarily. It seems that my sound system has gone totally wrong. Now I can only get sound to work via the USB. [16:35] I think what happened is that when I plugged in the USB (which I had done before and it worked no problem) something new in the system wiped out my old configuration [16:36] The sound system seems to be pointed to the S/PDIF -- which is not what I am using. I have 3 analog plugs to my speakers [16:37] so my question is: how do I adjust my sound system to not use S/PDIF but to use the analog jacks? [16:38] I have been google searching, but I haven't been able to land on the right terms for how to configure this [16:39] Hello! [16:40] ovrh, hi === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius [16:41] I have some weird stuff I'd like to show you guys. https://i.imgur.com/SHwXcsR.png This is the System Monitor on my laptop... what's going on? I'm assuming that can't be right, on my previous installation I had just the partitions that actually existed (swap, /home, /, and the windows partition of the dual boot), but this is... a first for me o.o [16:41] nacc: well the storage seems to be there. I just created one with the azure CLI [16:41] so.. seems to be reachable at least [16:42] ovrh: are you talking about those /dev/loop snap dirs? [16:42] yeats: this is the last log https://hastebin.com/isehifejov.nginx [16:42] funkyjive, in alsamixer and pavucontrol [16:43] ovrh: they look like snaps [16:43] lotuspsychje, I'm talking about the huge number of lines in there, and the duplication of things. Some of those entries are clearly duplicated, judging from the sizes and how they change together [16:43] how to send mail to multiple recipients using SendEmail tool?? [16:43] BluesKaj: In pauvcontrol in "output devices", I see the IEC958 ... but it won't let me check anything but Digital Output (S/PDIF) [16:43] lotuspsychje, But yeah, those /dev/loop seem to be quite abundant [16:44] nacc: So, to answer your question: Yes I have tried what it says in that link [16:44] TheMesquito, Snaps? Meaning that everything I install through snap gets its own entry in there? :( === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius [16:44] funkyjive, which audio chip ? [16:46] BluesKaj: Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller [8086:8c20] (rev 04) [16:46] ovrh: https://askubuntu.com/questions/834093/small-snap-loop-devices-visible-in-gnome-disk-utility-or-what-is-the-function-of [16:47] BluesKaj: Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel [16:48] funkyjive, run sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , that should load the driver , there won't be any output from the command [16:48] think it is loaded, but let me try it. [16:50] BluesKaj: in the configuration tab in pavcontrol it says Analog Surround 5.1 Output (unplugged) as an option .... [16:52] BluesKaj: I can't figure out why it says unplugged, when it is plugged in and has been forever. [16:52] BluesKaj: it just feels like some kind of software change or something [16:53] I think it just magically started working. [16:53] I'm going with it. [16:53] BluesKaj: thanks for your help. [16:55] funkyjive, in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, add this line, options snd-hda-intel index=0, that should make the intel driver default (Card 0). you may need to reboot [16:56] TheMesquito, Oh, so it is snaps... But what about those other ones? /var/log, /var/tmp, /usr/src, /tmp, /etc, /etc/*, /tmp [16:57] BluesKaj: let met take a look at that , thanks. [16:57] funkyjive, that should solidify your audio settings [16:59] yeats: anything? [16:59] BluesKaj: I have added that. it is funny that I see index=-2 in there on some other stuff. [17:01] ovrh: can you pastebin the output of `mount` rather than the GUI tool? [17:02] nacc, just `mount`? No arguments? [17:04] ovrh: yes [17:06] nacc, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T4ZKz99CdK/ === _SimonNL is now known as SimonNL [17:20] Yeah Ubuntu doesn't seem to be able to recognise my MX1500 [17:20] ovrh: sorry was on the hpone, looking [17:21] Mesp: do you see errors in `dmesg`? honestly, if `lspci` doesn't see the device, it's not necessarily a bug in Ubuntu clearly. [17:21] funkyjive, index with minus means it's bypassed/ignored [17:21] ovrh: from what i can tell, this might just be abuggy system monitor, it does't undestand loop back mounts [17:22] I don't think I see any errors which are for nvidia [17:22] nacc, No worries, I'm just honestly curious to understand what's going on. Everything seems to work fine, apart from the fact that it renders the Filesystem section of System Monitor useless [17:22] If there was an error in the loading or identifying it would be in dmesg? [17:23] nacc, Makes sense. Is there a better tool I could use? Even cli [17:23] ovrh: right, i understand that. Really it and most tools should just ignore loop mounts for usage purposes [17:23] What's weird is that "Additionals Drivers" says there are no drivers available [17:23] ovrh: i think all have this limitation, tbh; we (ubuntu devs) have talked about modifying `df` to have a flag, but i don't think it went anywhere [17:23] Mesp: well, it won't if it can't see the device [17:23] Mesp, the answer should be in your bios, first check if you have the latest version? [17:24] Mesp: there might be an error unrelated to nvidia, tbc; like the pci controller itself [17:24] Mesp: might be worth pastebinning `dmesg` [17:24] sudo dmidecode -s bios-version prints V.107 [17:24] ovrh: oh i think i might see what's going on [17:24] ovrh: what version of ubuntu is this? [17:24] 18..10 [17:26] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RGDpxdJsz9/ [17:26] nacc, 18.04 [17:26] The xhci error can be fixed with a restart so it's not that [17:27] ovrh: those loop3 mounts are all the core snap [17:27] it's weird that the tool thinks it's mounted all over when `mount` does not [17:27] they *could* be bind mounts [17:28] Mesp: dont' filter it please [17:28] nacc, I'm not sure what's a bind mount. But don't those mountpoint need to stay mounted in order to use the snap apps they are associated with? [17:28] ovrh: i might ask in #snappy [17:29] ovrh: as in, you might :) [17:29] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BG355xVNwP/ [17:29] There you go [17:30] nacc, so, that iio-sensors issue? kinda looks like this affects the kernel from 18.04.0/rtm install media [17:31] Mesp, look at the vendors page, there is a bios update [17:31] Mesp: that's not an ubuntu kerenl. [17:31] Seems like according to Acer there is a Bios version 1.09 and I am on 1.07 not sure if that's that though [17:31] nacc, Okay, will do! Thank you [17:31] nacc , what do you mean? [17:31] ntd: yeah, i reproduced it with the installer. Confusingly, I even tested 16.04 and it didn't work [17:31] Mesp: 4.19.8-041908-generic [17:31] Mesp: that's a build from the mainline PPA. [17:32] What should I to fix it? [17:32] ohhh mainline, no wonder that there are no nvidia drivers [17:32] Mesp: run ubuntu's kernel. You had to have installed this kerenl by hand [17:32] OerHeks: indeed. [17:32] update bios, downgrade kernel [17:33] I will start with BIOS and then see the kernel [17:33] !cookie | nacc [17:33] nacc: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! === crimastergogo_ is now known as crimastergogo [17:37] nacc, yet up-to-date bionic userspace with booted with debian 4.18.20 works? [17:37] i mean, a whole bus class just *poof* and i'm the first to notice? [17:37] since like... april? [17:38] updated bionic gives 4.15.0-42 [17:38] i know [17:38] which appears faulty [17:39] nacc, as in 16.04 with 4.4 or hwe kernel? [17:39] ntd: i don't recall, tbh [17:39] ntd: tbc, i also tried 4.18 on 18.04 and it didn't work [17:39] 4.18.? [17:39] ntd: i'm not sure the class disappeared. I think something else happened. [17:39] ntd: i'm starting to suspect a BIOS update on my laptop(s) [17:39] How much are snaps the same thing as dmg files of mac? [17:40] coconut: not much [17:40] nacc, can't be userspace, otherwise why are deb stable (4.9) and testing 4.18 working fine? [17:40] coconut: they're loopback mounted, and not copy installed. squasfs compressed [17:40] ntd: well, neither of those are possibly the userspace in question. In any case, did you comment in the bug yet? [17:40] apt is more advanced imho [17:41] tarzeau: doesn't that create a lot more ram use then? [17:41] coconut: a bit more, but nowadays, does it matter? [17:41] coconut: since they often don't use system libraries, they do use more ram yes [17:41] coconut: you *want* your ram to be used, anyways [17:42] right right [17:42] nacc: i often see systems run out of ram, and start swapping or OOM reboots [17:42] tarzeau: then you are overcommiting your memory and have insufficient swap [17:42] tarzeau: that's called a configuration error :) [17:42] and we've got systems with 4 GB up to 1.5 TB ram (+2 TB ssd swap) [17:43] nacc: i'm not, but i do say OOM=kernel panic, kernel panic=reboot [17:43] since i don't want to hang around in server rooms over weekends or nights [17:43] to press the reboot button [17:43] tarzeau: in any case, that's irrelevant to my point. [17:44] tarzeau: 'running out of memory' is about memory pressure to satisfy an allocation. Not about the use of memory in the first place. [17:44] i'm sure i have enough ram + swap with 3500 GB [17:44] tarzeau: you *are* overcommmiting your memory if you run out of it or see the OOM killer. That's what it's for. [17:44] if you mean linux kernel setting memory overcommitting, i'm not [17:44] tarzeau: no, i don't mean that [17:45] tarzeau: i mean you are allocating more memory in userspace then there is physical memory in your system. [17:45] you mean i ask for more memory than there is? [17:45] *I* certainly am not, but some users are, yes, however it's multi user systems [17:45] tarzeau: so again, you (as in your system of course), is overcommitted in memory. Which is what I said. [17:46] yes absolutely, i'm aware of that [17:46] nacc, found a backup with xenial 4.4. gonna try booting current bionic with that [17:46] ntd: let me know [17:47] i'm still looking for testers of my ppa (it's about lixgame.com), bionic required [17:50] how do i troubleshoot my mouse prolems? [17:50] problems* [17:51] i have a max master 2s thats connected to my laptop via logitech's "lightspeed" dongle [17:51] but its randomly getting stuck for a few milliseconds (enough to be noticeable) as i move the mouse [17:51] i installed Solaar but its not doing anything to help [17:52] mx master 2s* not max [17:57] nacc, so, 4.4.0-134 confirmed workinhg [17:57] working [17:58] i *could* try the backed up 4.15 xenial hwe kernel, any point to that? [17:58] ntd: intersting, can you put that in the bug? i'll see if that's true here too [17:58] ntd: anything is worth doing, probably. It will eventually require a bisect, I have a feeling [17:58] k, gimme a sec [18:07] nacc, nope, backup up xenial hwe 4.15.0-33 not working === SimonNL is now known as _SimonNL [18:07] and it appears i was testing the kernel from 18.04.1 install media (-29), not rtm 18.04. from the LP it appears you already tried -20 [18:08] anyway iio sensors are working fine on current bionic userspace with xenial 4.4.0-134, debian stable 4.9.8-something and testing 4.18.20 [18:09] just not ub kernel 4.15 (or 4.18 according to you) [18:11] Anyone here good at Terminal problems? Been trying to get my web interface stop "lagging" and disconnecting for a few days now, no luck :/ [18:11] Transmission* I'm getting too tired... [18:18] Shasirax_: wich ubuntu version is that? [18:22] lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, Transmission version 2.94 [18:22] Shasirax_: wich browser and can you describe how the lagging starts [18:25] lotuspsychje: All browsers and generally when I connect to it. Using Firefox and Transmission Remote GUI. It works at first, gets all the info and then whenever a torrent starts dl or ul it just stops connecting. No more info, no errors logged, nothing... [18:25] Hey, so you guys said that my Kernel is not Ubuntu apparently, even though I got it from UKUU so which kernel should I install? [18:27] Shasirax_: a few ideas would be: launching both transmission & browser from the terminal, see if we can catch errors [18:27] Shasirax_: also a tail -f /var/log/syslog in realtime could help [18:28] need some help with wireless. my wife's desktop is getting dl speeds of around 900kbps with ul of near 6Mbps. My dell laptop (this machine) is connected to same 2GHz network and is seeing 10Mbps dl with 6Mbps ul. The desktop as ath9k drivers with AR9485 built in wireless. I put in an airlink N usb adapter and it has the same behavior [18:28] Mesp: when you install ubuntu, the kernel comes with it..what are you trying to do exactly? [18:29] I mean I installed a newer Kernel through UKUU and everything is fine but a guy from here (forgot the name) told me that it's not an Ubuntu kernel and I should downgrade [18:29] Currently I have 4.19.8-041908-generic [18:29] Mesp: wich ubuntu version are you on [18:29] 18.10 [18:30] !info linux-image-generic cosmic | Mesp [18:30] Mesp: linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.18.0.12.13 (cosmic), package size 2 kB, installed size 14 kB [18:31] should I go down to that then? [18:31] lotuspsychje: transmission is launched in terminal. It's on a headless server so I'm doing everything through SSH on my win10 device on the same network. Can't really start the browser from terminal with win10, wish i had a ubuntu computer to test with... [18:31] Shasirax_: Do you have your torrents rate limited in anyway? Do you restrict the number of connections for a torrent? What it sounds like to me is that Tranmission is maxing out the number of connections the system can handle at one time, or the amount of bandwidth used by Tranmission is preventing any other network activity from taking place [18:32] Mesp: thats the current kernel for cosmic so.. [18:32] Alright, thank you! [18:33] Mesp: if you say you have 18.10 that kernel should already be in your list [18:33] Yeah it is. [18:33] I will boot into. [18:33] into it* [18:34] pragmaticenigma: Ohh, that could be it. "max-peers-global": 200. That restricts it to a reasonal amount tho right? The speed has never been a problem before but I'll lower it to see if that helps [18:36] 200 is a lot of connections, especially if the computer is not server level hardware. I have my torrent client setup (Deluge) with a max of 3 connections per torrent with a global number of 80 [18:38] pragmaticenigma: oh, really? Never had a problem with it so far and I have way above 200 torrents in Transmission. Switching down to 80 :) [18:39] Shasirax_: You can have as many active torrents as you want. The setting I'm talking about is the number of connections, it should be in the settings under a bandwidth area [18:41] pragmaticenigma: yeah, I get what you mean :) Settings for Transmission isn't really that straight forward tho. Has to edit the settings file before starting daemon^^ I'm testing it now tho [18:41] Thanks btw [18:42] Shasirax_: Settings for torrent clients are all unique, different network setups, computer setups, and so on affect what you will desire for those settings. Seedboxes can usually max out stuff like that. A computer on a home network with other comptuers, should take a more concervative approach [18:44] ntd: interesting [18:44] ntd: sorry, i need to switch to other stuff right now, if you could put all that in the bug, that would be good [18:45] pragmaticenigma: True true, problem is I got this problem from absolutely nothing. It worked just fine like 3 days ago with the open settings and now, ded. I also have the problem that torrents go to high speed and then it just seem to disconnect or max out cache and drop to 0. [18:46] Shasirax_: sounds like some trial and error to find settings that work best for you. You may also want to research alternative clients that might be better suited to handle your needs. I view Tranmission as a great starter to learning to torrent, but I personally use Deluge as I find it has less issues with what I use it for. [18:47] is there any particular reason why ubuntu versions have silly animal names [18:47] or is it just for fun [18:47] Shasirax_: or follow pragmaticenigma advice with a reinstall of transmission and new config as a test? [18:47] !codenames | leonardus [18:47] leonardus: Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more [18:47] nacc, yeah. i don't have a lp account. registering with the os vendor is kinda a pet peeve of mine [18:48] but this this obviously a bug/regression and it would take someone with clout all of two minutes to verify it [18:50] ntd: bugging out bug, without actually bugging them isnt gonna do much right? [18:50] pragmaticenigma: tested Deluge actually, got problems with permissions and so on. Never had this much problem with Transmission and generally liked it, it's simple and just what I need. I'll try a restall tho... But I don't wanna loose all my torrents and have to add them again :( [18:50] can someone add "Crafty Cobra" to "if you have a magical idea, please add it to the table at the bottom of this page" [18:50] not sure if i have permission to edit the wiki [18:50] lotuspsychje: yeah, will do. Just have to come up with a way to backup the current one [18:51] !contribute | leonardus start here [18:51] leonardus start here: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu [18:51] nacc, also, if you have a t470s you might have noticed that 18.04 rtm kernel would not boot when it was docked? [18:52] Shasirax_: finish your running ones, then unplug your media for safety :p [18:53] lotuspsychje: about 200-300 uploads running :P No "finishing" there. But yeah, I'll kill it^^ [18:53] oof [18:54] kinda warned you guys for several weeks before launch, (and referenced the fedora thread verifying/documenting the issue with that kernel version) but nooo [18:54] !who | ntd [18:54] ntd: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) [18:54] ntd: did you open a bug on that? [18:54] lotuspsychje: pragmaticenigma: Thanks for the help dudes. You're great :) [18:55] Shasirax_: hope it helps [18:55] was told to take it up with someone in ubuntu-kernel [18:55] i did. and the fedora thread should've been plenty of proof [18:57] in short: 18.04 install media could not bee booted on docked haswell->kaby thinkpads [18:58] ntd: ok then you can stop complaining. I'm sorry, if you're not willing to file bugs, you can't expect support [18:58] ntd: i don't use a dock === SysGhost is now known as Gugh [19:16] Hello, am I in the right place to get help ? === Gugh is now known as SysGhost [19:17] hi [19:17] hi [19:18] qwebirc15728: yes you are. Just ask, there are always some reading here... [19:18] booted 18.04.1 from usb stick to ddrescue a full system backup onto a usb3 attached sata SDD on an adapter. at 40MB/s, whioch seems to be usb2 speeds rather. [19:18] what's wrong, how can I go full usb3 speed? hardware: thinkpad t530 on docking station [19:19] I'm trying to have a touchscreen working on a toughbook CF-19 MK2 on Ubuntu, if anybody could advise... [19:21] qwebirc15728, what does it do / not do, what have you tried so far? [19:22] So to summarize because there are weeks I'm trying things, I can't have the touchsreen being properly calibrated, the calibration keeps failing and hte touches aren't properly taken into account... I would like to add that under version i386 16.04 everything was working but as soon as I ass under version 18.04 I meet these problems... === capella is now known as capella|away [19:24] qwebirc15728, what do lspci and/or lsusb say about the device? lsusb | pastebinit [19:24] I guess it's a usb input device [19:25] I did tried all the tricks around xinput-calibrator, and also other settings like you can see here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/673340, someone else meet the same issue but with a more recent computer... On 16.04 it was okay with xinput-calibrator and the changes being reported to 10-evdev.conf file, but now on the latest versions changes made there doesn't seems to b taken into account anymore... [19:27] Collecting info, hold on [19:27] qwebirc15728, maybe this github with xorg.conf is any help ?? https://github.com/nagyrobi/panasonic-cf-19-linux [19:28] https://github.com/nagyrobi/panasonic-cf-19-linux/blob/master/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/99-calibration.conf [19:29] worth a shot [19:30] I seen these links and what is there works for 16.04 but not above... [19:32] My screen is recognized as USB Fujitsu touchpanel [19:32] Hello. I edited this file: /etc/systemd/logind.conf and set: HandleSwitch=hibernate. The problem is when I close my laptop's lid for longer period, the laptop turns off and then my session is lost... [19:32] Does anyone know how can I *fix* the hibernation process? === daniel is now known as Guest33211 [19:35] there is a toughbook forum, maybe they have a fix http://www.toughbooktalk.com/viewforum.php?f=39&sid=f826e657bb6e047c9a577b2bf2495bd7 [19:36] as yours seems old, from 2008, i wonder why it does not calibrate [19:36] eh, usb3 port on docking station actually only is usb2 in system. moved ssd on usb3 adapter to notebook's port -> vroom! 550MB/s [19:36] * deadrom <3 SSDs [19:38] Yes it's not that young, but it does calibrate under 16.04 this is lost when moving to 18.04 so I assumed that there were some changes as how the x driver works from a version to another... I noticed that whatever I put in those files , it doesn't change anything, even values that should prevent Ubuntu from booting ! [19:38] Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/babdf38079eba3da4044a3012d5655ee/pasted.txt [19:38] Any one experience issues with ubuntu server not logging you in? I finished setting up an lxd container and everything. I reboot and boom cannot log in to either root or my unprivilage account anymore???!?!?!?!?! When i go to recovery mode i can easily log-in there no problem. Ive tried resetting the password multiple times and nothing works [19:39] thagabe, did you install an LDAP tool or something? What is in /etc/nsswitch? [19:39] er, /etc/nsswitch.conf [19:39] nacc, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1807250 [19:40] Launchpad bug 1807250 in linux (Ubuntu) "At some point in the 18.04 cycle, /sys/bus/iio has disappeared from my system" [Undecided,Confirmed] [19:40] I'm browsing through the forum you shares... trying to figure if there is something that looks like it... [19:42] lordcirth_ Nothing new was installed. Clean install of ubuntu server w/ docker and lxd. Created a 18.04 container and set up ark (game) server [made it so systemd would start the server on container boot]. Rebooted my server and now i cant login at the login manager [19:42] thagabe, login manager? What about through a tty? [19:42] i meant tty [19:42] Tried tty1-5 [19:42] nothing [19:42] Ah, ok. So in recovery mode, look through /var/log/auth.log and syslog [19:43] In fact, I'm at the step where I try to figure what changed in the evdev driver between the two versions... I noticed that 18.04 is always 64b while my 16.04 was I386 32b, I don't know if it could impact [19:43] What should i keep an eye out for? lordcirth_ [19:44] thagabe, well, auth.log is login attempts. So any sort of auth failure should show up there. syslog should show if something was crashing [19:46] So any idea ? [19:47] @lordc [19:47] thagabe, ? [19:49] lordcirth_: I see the login attempts but I'm not seeing why. [19:50] qwebirc15728, not what you wanna hear but file a bug report and pick an adequate severity [19:50] thagabe, it says auth failed? [19:50] yes [19:50] thagabe, look in /etc/nssswitch.conf and see if there's a source listed other than 'files' [19:50] wait a second [19:51] It might be trying to handle logins using something other than standard /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow [19:51] Do you have any idea where I can file a bug report for Ubuntu ? That might help me as I'm more Debian and iSeries system user usually [19:52] does a unit file on systemd inside a container affect the base os? [19:52] !bug [19:52] Yeah after a kernel upgrade and shit I have no idea why the card is no recognized by ubuntu [19:52] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [19:52] because if it does then maybe the unit file might be trying to do something [19:52] even when the container is off [19:52] also [19:52] thagabe, no, userspace in a container should never affect the outside [19:52] thagabe, however, is it possible you accidentally put the .unit file in the host instead of the guest? [19:53] no [19:53] i did followed this guide and maybe this is why its not working [19:53] https://hostadvice.com/how-to/how-to-install-an-ark-server-on-an-ubuntu-18-04-vps-or-dedicated-server/ [19:54] under the open file limits I did all that on the host os not the container as containers dont have filesystem access [19:55] Thank you that's a step... [19:55] thagabe, the "/etc/pam.d/common-session" change seems likely to be related [19:55] thagabe, try commenting out sessionrequired pam_limits.so in that file and rebooting [19:56] yeah that was going to be my first guess [19:56] Will do once I get home and have access to the server [19:56] Thank you for your time [19:56] I have nothing aganst raising a bug report, that's part of the life of open source OS, it's fine. Maybe we will figure, I could have remain on 16.04 but there some packages I'm looking for where not available anymore :O [19:57] What does the pam_limits.so do anyways? [19:58] Thank you all to have taken some of your time to think with me, and I wish you all the best ! [19:59] thagabe, https://linux.die.net/man/8/pam_limits [19:59] lordcirth_ for "/etc/security/limits.conf" Do i need to put the "*" before soft/hard? [19:59] because i didnt [19:59] and i assumed that was just formatting [20:00] qwebirc15728, please carry on the torch : [20:00] :) [20:00] thagabe, lol. Yes, the * is needed. It means 'all' [20:00] yikes! [20:00] errors [20:00] I will add the "*" [20:00] use /etc/security/limits.d instead of editing the actual /etc/security/limits.conf file. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/457458/issue-on-updating-limits-conf-on-ubuntu-server-18-04 [20:00] gtg [20:01] if that doesnt fix my issue ill run to commenting out the pam line [20:01] Thank you for the help lordcirth_ [20:01] Also a good point, .d directories are good [20:01] np, let me know if it works [20:01] he found out it does not work [20:02] lordcirth_ Can I open firewall ports for specific lxd containers or do i do that as the whole os? [20:03] because right now im leading towards having to open up ports for my container, the base system, and my router [20:03] luckily all of these run linux [20:03] thagabe, if your container doesn't have a firewall set up, you shouldn't need to do anything there [20:03] How are you connecting your container to your LAN? [20:03] On Ubuntu 18.10 should I use Bumblebee or Optimus because my GPU isn't recognized, only the integrated one is. [20:04] Mesp, still no luck after bios update? [20:04] bumblebee is old, prime is current. [20:04] I couldn't do a BIOS update because I need to install Windows [20:05] And for some reason when I put FreeDOS on a USB and install it, it doesn't have it as an option to boot from it. [20:05] oh, install windows or use freedos maybe? [20:05] I downloaded the FreeDOS iso and put it in a USB but on startup it doesn't give me the option to choose it by pressing F12 [20:06] modern mb have a dedicated utility for that iirc [20:06] https://imgur.com/a/jwPRaiC [20:06] That's how the USB looks right now so it should be good. [20:06] But no option to boot from it [20:07] Mesp, modern EFI mobo? On mine I need to go to settings, then choose boot menu. [20:08] Or try F8 [20:08] maybe fwupdmgr works for you too https://itsfoss.com/update-firmware-ubuntu/ [20:08] I can try with F8 [20:08] I will be back once I try [20:09] lordcirth_ I'm new to lxd (and low level linux in general) but after the installed installed lxd I created a new container from the latest img of 18.04 and are working fully on root. I have not set up any networking and using the default br0 to my container [20:12] I will try to reinstall the iso on the USB [20:13] Mesp_, how did you install it the first time? dd? [20:13] Through unetbootin [20:13] I will try to do it through Disk Creator [20:14] I used rufus to make the ubuntu server iso. Ran a sanity check and it spat out 3 errors [20:15] thagabe, with the live-version of server or with the regular one ? [20:18] Startup Disk Creator doesn't recognise the FreeDOS iso weird [20:18] I click it and it doesn't get added [20:18] Mesp_, that tool works only with regular ubuntu-desktopisos [20:18] What tool should I use? [20:19] Mesp_, if you state what are you doing exactly and why .... [20:19] I am trying to install the FreeDOS iso into a USB so I can upgrade my UEFI [20:19] If you are on Linux, use dd. Carefully. [20:19] Yeah I am on Ubuntu [20:19] is there any reason to use low-latency kernels? [20:19] !dd [20:19] Mesp_, upgrade my UEFI ? [20:20] my BIOS* [20:20] to the newer version [20:20] eelstrebor If you need the low-latency ex. audio remixing [20:20] Mesp_, what's your mb? [20:20] mb? [20:20] mother borad [20:20] eelstrebor, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel [20:20] *board [20:21] bios <> uefi :) [20:21] Mesp_, your mother board model [20:21] vassilios@swift:~$ sudo dmidecode -s baseboard-product-name [sudo] password for vassilios: Suntory_KL [20:21] this? [20:22] did you just include your password? [20:22] It's a laptop [20:22] No that's the output [20:22] why do you need to install freedos? [20:22] Mesp_, what laptop model ? [20:22] you can't update uefi via uefi? [20:22] Acer Swift 3 the one with MX150 [20:23] nvidia [20:23] Yeah [20:23] upgrade 16.04 -> 18.04 by do-release-upgrade -d <- does not work, says soemthing about "cannot tell which system upgrades are available." help? [20:23] My problem is that Ubuntu doesn't recognize/read or whatever the MX150 and only sees the integrated one [20:23] Mesp_, or via boot dos [20:23] ah [20:24] And my BIOS version is 1.07 I believe when the new one is 1.09 so it was suggested I upgrade it and see if I have an option for the other card [20:24] Mesp_, lspci -nnk | pastebinit [20:24] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mchNTq3cry/ [20:25] Mesp_, your mb does not provide auto installer? [20:25] deadrom, carefull, the -d = development version, that would be 19.04 [20:25] Mesp_, mb manufacturer [20:25] I am honestly not sure, I have never upgraded the BIOS before and the laptop is relatively new [20:25] * eelstrebor is wondering if a low-latency kernel would fix webcam issues (i.e. skype, motion, etc) [20:26] eelstrebor, unlikely [20:26] webcam video isn't smooth a is blurry [20:27] Mesp_, sudo lshw -c Video | pastebinit [20:27] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bHjrTr7z6M/ [20:27] One second trying to find mb manufacturer [20:28] Mesp_, what's your laptop model? [20:28] without bios update, support for your mx150 is questionable [20:28] Acer Swift 3 [20:28] The model with the MX150 in it [20:28] OerHeks that's why I was looking in FreeDOS, to update bios [20:29] Mesp_ update bios from the bios itself, why do it from OS? [20:29] Last time I checked I don't think I have seen an option [20:29] hmm, our page links to a possible acer solution https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate [20:30] Mesp_, did you try to install the nvidia drivers ? [20:31] ioria, as the nvidia card is not seen, he cannot [20:31] I tried to install the NVidia Drivers 384.95 which gives you MX150 support and afterwards and it said something about not finding MX in the system [20:31] OerHeks, that's why i asked [20:31] Mesp_, dpkg -l grep nvidia | pastebinit [20:32] Mesp_, dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit [20:32] is that mx150 a pci card?? [20:32] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nDmVRYmC3F/ [20:33] what a mess [20:33] Mesp_, what is ? 18.04 ? [20:33] My best guess is it means Ubuntu 18.04? [20:34] Mesp_, cat /etc/issue [20:34] Ubuntu 18.10 \n \l [20:34] all 18.10 drivers [20:34] Mesp_, uname -r [20:34] 4.18.0-12-generic [20:35] asume you have used the driver ppa too .. [20:35] yep [20:36] Mesp_, it's a fresh install of 18.10 ? [20:36] I upgraded it from 18.04 [20:37] But I have no idea if the card was recognized in 18.04 as I didn't mess with it. [20:37] Mesp_, why don't you purge all of that ? [20:37] sudo apt purge? [20:37] Mesp_, wait... yo don't know if 18.04 shows that card ? [20:37] I don't know if it shows the MX150 since I haven't tested it on that. [20:38] I have only tried to access the MX since like yesterday [20:38] I autoremove'd stuff that it didn't need [20:39] OerHeks, same without, same when launching from menu [20:39] Mesp_, sudo apt purge nvidia-driver-390 nvidia-367 nvidia-384 [20:39] done [20:40] Mesp_, sudo apt autoremove [20:40] 410 415 [20:40] I can still 410 and 415 from the Terminal but If I try to install from a file it says it can't find the MX card [20:41] Mesp_, after autoremove paste again dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit [20:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7Xhg6Rvj4q/ [20:42] Mesp_, sudo apt purge nvidia* [20:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cDy8BTVwHC/ [20:43] Mesp_, sudo apt purge libnvidia* [20:44] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4Tk2PSQJRN/ [20:44] Mesp_, sudo apt purge libnvidia-compute-390:i386 [20:45] alright it's empty [20:45] clear [20:45] oops [20:45] Mesp_, ls /etc/modprobe.d [20:46] in sshd_config how do I set minimum password length and lockout timers after x failed attempts. [20:46] Mesp_, ls /etc/modprobe.d | pastebinit [20:47] Does LXD create a btrfs pool? [20:47] ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Q5sWBVq5mn/ [20:47] Because I am running it on ext4 [20:48] but it mentions btrfs on the initial set up of lxd [20:48] Mesp_, rebbot [20:48] Mesp_, reboot [20:48] alright [20:49] ok, it seems a ppa package here is preventing release-upgrade. which annoys me since upgrade told be it owuld disable these for now [20:49] what annoys me more is that it doesnt tell me whcih packages offend [20:49] pointers appreciated [20:51] deadrom, are you still trying to upgrade to 19.04, or 18.04? [20:51] lordcirth_, nono, my fault, 16.04 -> 18.04 [20:51] ioria done [20:51] deadrom, ok, and what error is it returning? [20:51] Mesp_, cat /proc/cmdline [20:51] Mesp_, you canpaste here [20:52] BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.18.0-12-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro quiet splash iommu=pt nouveau.blacklist=1 vt.handoff=1 [20:52] Mesp_, why did you blacklist nouveau ? [20:52] lordcirth_, "cannot calculate upgrades" (or such, LC_ALL=C borks with do-release-upgrade ) [20:52] Because when I was trying to install the NVIDIA it said nouveau might be interrupting [20:52] But then I didn't remove it [20:53] Mesp_, cat /etc/default/grub | pastebinit [20:53] deadrom, can you manually disable your ppas? Are they critical, eg graphics drivers? [20:53] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HtpMkxwTmr/ [20:53] tbh I usually just reinstall every LTS [20:54] Mesp_, why the changes ? [20:54] changes? [20:54] hi [20:55] I used grub customizer to add the blacklist so maybe it did that [20:55] i cant uninstall a package because its systemd service unit fails to stop, how can I force package removal? [20:55] otherwise I didn't mess with it if I recall correctly [20:55] seven-eleven, what package/service? [20:55] Mesp_, you did... sudo cp grub grub.back [20:55] lordcirth_, bareos, third party repository [20:56] cp: cannot stat 'grub': No such file or directory [20:56] Mesp_, cd in /etc/default [20:56] done [20:56] Mesp_, sudo cp grub grub.back [20:56] yeah done [20:56] can't uninstall "bareos-director" [20:57] seven-eleven, 'systemctl stop bareos' doesn't work either? [20:57] Mesp_, in gub remove lines 35-38 [20:57] or "bareos-director" or whatever [20:57] Mesp_, 35-38 of the pastebinit [20:57] lordcirth_, nope bareos-director stop returns an error, i deleted the service file also [20:57] or tried replacing it [20:58] seven-eleven, what error? if you delete it, it won't know how to stop it [20:58] and the default thing? [20:58] lordcirth_, ton of ppas.. give me a moment.. [20:58] Mesp_, we add it (v) in line 10 [20:58] deadrom, also, if the ppas are for newer versions of stuff, you might not need some of them in 18.04 [20:58] Mesp_, quiet splash i mean [20:58] lordcirth_, well i copied nginx.service to bareos-director.service, and when I stop it no error occurs, but the removal still raises an error [20:59] invoke-rc.d: initscript bareos-dir, action "stop" failed. [20:59] seven-eleven, I doubt stopping nginx is going to help... [20:59] lordcirth_, I guess, but how to tell [20:59] done [20:59] Mesp_, cat /etc/default/grub | pastebinit [20:59] lordcirth_, i thought i give it a working systemd unit, I figured nginx.service stop would just return fine [20:59] but not working either hmm [21:00] seven-eleven, you could try just killing the process [21:00] its not running [21:01] Mesp, cat /etc/default/grub | pastebinit [21:02] ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cJQR8qHyv5/ [21:02] Mesp, reboot [21:04] ioria done [21:04] Mesp, lspci -nnk | pastebinit [21:04] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GN9VSdqFRm/ [21:04] when I try shutdown -r now, I get: Operation inhibited by "Package Updater" (PID 1271 "packagekitd", user root), reason is "Package Update in Progress". [21:04] is it safe to kill this process? [21:05] lordcirth_, disabled most ppas, same result [21:05] deadrom, only most? [21:05] causative, probably not a great idea. Is it using CPU? [21:06] Mesp_, sudo update-initramfs -u -k all [21:06] it's using 1% cpu [21:06] but I've been getting this problem for hours [21:06] ioria done [21:07] Mesp_, ever worked that card ? [21:07] The MX? I have never used it [21:07] The laptop is like a month old and I just tried to access it yesterday [21:07] perhaps I can kill it and then clean up the aftermath somehow? [21:07] causative, I would kill it, then run 'apt -f install' to make sure nothing was broken [21:07] clear [21:07] ok thanks I'll try [21:08] lordcirth_: Getting back to you about your earlier question about my containers and how they connect to my lan. They are using the default bridge to my nic. My server is using network manager (i believe) enp0s1 i think and the container is using br0 to bridge. [21:09] Mesp_, ubuntu-drivers list | pastebinit [21:09] thagabe, then only your router's firewall should be relevant [21:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rrBBwdkz4Z/ [21:10] ioria I have to go for a bit, I am leaving freenode on. If you want add my Discord Mephistopheles#3767 [21:10] Mesp_, i'am leaving too, keep asking or come back tomorrow, pls [21:10] lordcirth_, no matter what I do, wont go through. disabled all ppas, still no go [21:10] lordcirth_: Wouldn't ubuntu's firewall prevent people from trying to access my serveR? [21:11] thagabe, depends how you configured it, but with the normal bridge, I believe traffic to the container would get sent to the bridge *before* it goes through the firewall. I could be wrong, though. [21:12] oh lordcirth_ you know what I bet it is, now that I'm running apt-get upgrade, it's prompting me a million times for my password to my encrypted swap partition, maybe packagekitd was stuck there [21:12] http://dpaste.com/0XDX55D [21:12] causative, seems likely [21:13] idk how to fix that or if it's worth the effort [21:13] causative, is your swap not set up correctly? [21:13] probably it's not [21:13] or I wouldn't have this problem [21:14] the swap is working during normal operation though [21:14] seven-eleven, looks like it's trying to stop it through systemd, failing, then trying to stop it with invoke-rc [21:14] so idk why it only causes a problem here [21:14] causative, for now, you could perhaps just swap-off [21:14] lordcirth_, can i not create a fake invoke-rc file that just returns 0 indicating stop worked fine [21:14] seven-eleven, look for the script in /etc/init.d [21:14] ok [21:16] lordcirth_, thanks that worked [21:16] i simple replaced /etc/init.d/bareos with #!/bin/bash echo 1 [21:17] causative: Why not change your swap to be passwordless and get its key from /dev/urandom? [21:17] now its removed fine :-) [21:17] seven-eleven, good [21:17] rypervenche, causative, yes, *if* you don't need hibernate, that is the best way [21:17] I do need hibernate [21:17] Ahhh. [21:18] I came in late to the conversation. Ignore me then :) [21:18] hibernate has been working anyway and the swap appears to be getting filled on system monitor, so I don't know why there's a problem here [21:18] it also doesn't seem to matter what I enter for pw here, I can just hit enter and the upgrade continues without errors [21:19] That's odd [21:20] well, except this error: https://pastebin.com/ZQuJ2ued [21:20] which seems more of a warning [21:20] I'm out, thanks for advice [21:21] perhaps your /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab swap entries are mismatched [22:02] Hello guys, I am back so yeah my problem is that my laptop doesn't seem to recognize my MX150 and instead uses the integrated and I haven't found a fix [22:10] wow that's bad, first time I noticed an app actually removed something from /etc/, not good :-) [22:18] Hey, I want to watch Netflix on Chromium and saw that you need something called widevine for that. Debian offers a .deb package containing this, so can I just install Debian's package on my Ubuntu or is that incompatible? [22:18] I have downloaded it manually from Debian's website, can I install it with dpki -i or would that be bad because it is made for Debian and not Ubuntu? [22:19] *dpkg -i [22:20] no, just enable DRM on FF and install a codec https://linuxconfig.org/watch-netflix-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux [22:21] and google chrome should do this native, without hw rendering [22:21] So there is no possibility to make Chromium work with Netflix? [22:23] i have no clue with chromium and widevine [22:28] Oh well, I don't like Firefox but better than nothing... Thank you OerHeks [23:07] Hi. In Ubuntu 18.10 (gnome), when I close my laptop lid, it suspends the machine. When I open the lid, it is not locked. How do I change that? I want it locked. === jcnmark6_ is now known as jcnmark6 [23:40] is there a way to imag [23:41] e the current state of ubuntu to fall back onto later if something goes wrong [23:41] !backup | MrUnagi [23:41] MrUnagi: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning [23:42] thank you