[00:01] <RobBurke> Bashing-om, Well, there are /dev/loop0 to loop44 listed by blkid. Type Squashfs. Doesn't look right
[00:02] <RobBurke> but fstab lists a floppy, which is actually not present
[00:05] <RobBurke> additionally blkid gives me my win install (on sda1) which is not listed in fstab. Fstab lists swap at sda5, which is not listed by blkid
[00:06] <Bashing-om> RobBurke: loop44 ?? Mever seen that many .. and in my bios I disable the floppy device . But there the point is what is set for the swap in your case .
[00:06] <Bashing-om> Never*
[00:07] <RobBurke> Bashing-om, but blkid does not list a UUID for swap.
[00:09] <Bashing-om> RobBurke: Rut row .. show us in a pastebin ' sudo fdisk - lu ' .
[00:13] <RobBurke> Here: https://pastebin.com/ti3gBRA7 - sorry for not changing language settings beforehand
[00:14] <RobBurke> /dev/sda5 should be my swap - only that this ssid seems not to exist
[00:16] <pressure679> Ubuntu does not show my wifi, only that one, a whole lot of others are shown.
[00:16] <pressure679> Another one had the same issue posted on askubuntu.com but the post was removed.
[00:17] <pressure679> There are similar issues posted on askubuntu.com but no solution for mine.
[00:20] <Bashing-om> RobBurke: Strange that blkid does not see that partition . try ' sudo blkid -c /dev/null ' where The "-c /dev/null" forces blkid to poll the hardware for the UUID so as not take it from an OS cached file.
[00:21] <ikatamoonshots> my default xubuntu 18.04 lvm /luks setup as installed by default https://pastebin.com/0YQkSrjX
[00:21] <ikatamoonshots> swap in fstab https://pastebin.com/2puEEHfY
[00:21] <ikatamoonshots> setup script for additonal swap https://pastebin.com/UDiGZS5u
[00:21] <ikatamoonshots> you can swapoff the existing swap, remove fstab entry and create a new swap maybe that helps?
[00:21] <ikatamoonshots> idk xD
[00:22] <RobBurke> Bashing-om, well, this is interesting: https://pastebin.com/UrwEqxHk
[00:22] <RobBurke> ikatamoonshots, totally forgot about swapon and swapoff
[00:23] <RobBurke> ikatamoonshots, so you are not using uuids in fstab for swap?
[00:23] <ikatamoonshots> i use it quite often as i dont have much ram and have to compile time to time, so i swapon for a session and dont even make the fstab entry if i need larger swap
[00:24] <ikatamoonshots> the paste is from the default install w lvm / luks - the system part uses uuid tough
[00:25] <ikatamoonshots> dev mapper for lvm is static too
[00:26] <ikatamoonshots> only using mapper for swap - anything else i mount with uuid like external disks - but swap reall is flexible location, its mounted after main part anyways - even used external drives with multiple swaps across drives to increase io
[00:27] <ikatamoonshots> but thats just a hack for the missing ram lol
[00:28] <RobBurke> I used to have an actual swap partition, It would be a shame if it goes to waste. I need it most of the time anyway, since I'm permanently running out of ram.
[00:29] <RobBurke> Bashing-om, Can I just use the PARTUUID of my /dev/sda5 in fstab? It seems the whole thing is still there, so that should work, right?
[00:29] <ikatamoonshots> using swapon/off in scripts quite often for same reason - works for me
[00:31] <Bashing-om> RobBurke: Got me ! were me I would delete sda5 and remake the swap partition -  https://askubuntu.com/questions/33697/how-do-i-add-swap-after-system-installation?lq=1 .
[00:35] <RobBurke> ikatamoonshots, It's gonna be my plan definitely if I'm not getting that fixed
[00:35] <RobBurke> Bashing-om, I try that. Deleting it using gparted should do the trick easily
[00:36] <ikatamoonshots> what i posted was swap file, i have another script for swap partition but bashing already posted the a link . im doing fine with just swap files
[00:42] <RobBurke> ok
[00:42] <RobBurke> Bashing-om, ikatamoonshots -  thank you all, enjoy your day!
[00:42] <ikatamoonshots> :)
[00:46] <Bashing-om> robgraves: :) All will work out .. Time and effort .
[01:36] <Gizmo3D> needing some help on 18.04 no hdd space left
[01:41] <Bashing-om> Gizmo3D: For starters pastebin the output of ' df -h ' and ' df -i ' . see what we are working toward .
[01:41] <Gizmo3D> k 1 sec
[01:44] <Gizmo3D> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4tsnn2MNcr/
[01:47] <Bashing-om> Gizmo3D: Well we know the target is root. what shows from ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' ?
[01:50] <Gizmo3D> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HZWfR2PsnV/
[01:51] <Gizmo3D> there is a sda3 but doesn't seem to be used (1.8tb)
[01:57] <Bashing-om> Gizmo3D: "3.9G  3.7G" Nothing in that output that is all that large . but the partition as 3.9 gigs is vewry small . All I can suggest is to enlarge it :(
[01:57] <Gizmo3D> that's where the confusion is
[01:58] <Gizmo3D> it was a clean install with raid 1 (2tb hdds)
[01:59] <Gizmo3D> but seems to ignore all the space
[02:00] <Gizmo3D> and of course i've gone stupid on enlarging (adding sda3 into the mix)
[02:00] <Bashing-om> Gizmo3D: well, the root (/) partition is way small as shown by 'df' . That space was made up when you partitioned the drive for raid .
[02:01] <Gizmo3D> it's hardware raid, ubuntu shouldn't even know
[02:06] <Bashing-om> Gizmo3D: Sorry - do not know how hardware raid works . All we know presently is that / is to small .
[02:06] <Gizmo3D> k tks anyways
[02:07] <OerHeks> remove old kernels with apt autoremove ?
[02:07] <Bashing-om> Gizmo3D: If I knew more I would help more .
[02:08] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Gizmo3D Boot is in good shape .
[02:08] <Gizmo3D> i've extended before under 16.04 but for some reason my brain can't seem to recall how to extend with sda3
[02:10] <Gizmo3D> OerHeks, was a clean load no previous stuff
[02:39] <cuebix> Anyone here familiar with setting up a dns proxy? I'm getting some weird results
[02:39] <cuebix> I'm trying to set it up to get access to us netflix abroad.
[02:40] <cuebix> I can resolve domains with my server and that seems to be working correctly. but for some reason if i try to visit a non-netflix site, i get a 'connection refused' error
[02:40] <me1t> cuebix: since that's illegal, might want to leave that detail out when asking for help :)
[02:40] <cuebix> if i try to visit netflix, it like, kinda half works
[02:40] <cuebix> That's illegal?
[02:41] <me1t> violation of netflix terms surely
[02:41] <cuebix> that's vastly different than being illegal lol
[02:41] <me1t> might be
[02:46] <cuebix> I'm no lawyer, but from the little googling I've done, it doesn't seem to be illegal, but it would violate Netflix terms of service
[02:47] <cuebix> anyhow, I guess I'll try and figure it out on my own
[03:20] <pikapika> Hi
[03:20] <pikapika> How to disable automounting usb drives, etc
[03:20] <pikapika> Of course, via 'dconf-editor'
[03:20] <pikapika> But that seems to be a gnome thing
[03:20] <pikapika> How to do this on xubuntu?
[03:21] <k_sze[work]> Wow, my chat client really mangled my message.
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> pikapika: on ubuntu desktop, i use gnome-tweak-tool to enable/disable automount media
[03:22] <k_sze[work]> I'm going as again, basically this question on StackExchange: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/489487/realigning-gpt-partitions-to-4k-sector-boundaries
[03:23] <pikapika> lotuspsychje, would installing dconf-editor or gnome tweak tools cause any problems given that I have xubuntu?
[03:23] <AndyChow888>  I try to dd a file to a usb-key. Unfortunately, it's way too fast. Any idea what is going on? http://codepad.org/LKibtWC7
[03:25] <SlidingHorn> pikapika: It would just add some extra libraries
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> pikapika: i dont think there's a tweak tool for xubuntu
[03:25] <pikapika> But since the guide says it will affect some 'gnome' values, wont it be that thunar does not follow that rule, or worse
[03:25] <pikapika> both try to do opposite things and lock up
[03:26] <pikapika> wait
[03:26] <pikapika> Let me see if thunar's settings have something about this
[03:26] <pikapika> Yeah
[03:26] <SlidingHorn>  pikapika: I don't have XFCE currently, but take a look at the man entry for thunar-volman
[03:26] <pikapika> It has
[03:26] <pikapika> Thunar has settings for it
[03:28] <pikapika> SlidingHorn, I did it
[03:28] <pikapika> Preferences -> Advanced -> Configure Volume Management
[03:28] <SlidingHorn> pikapika: ah, that's the ticket...glad you got it
[03:29] <pikapika> Thanks still ^_^
[03:31] <duoi> hey
[03:31] <duoi> how can i programatically add something to the crontab
[03:33] <SlidingHorn> duoi: what do you mean by that?
[03:33] <duoi> SlidingHorn echo "* * * * * (/usr/bin/python manage.py send_queued_mail >> send_mail.log 2>&1) >> crontab -l"
[03:33] <duoi> something like that
[03:33] <duoi> that actually works
[03:35] <SlidingHorn> duoi: without looking at the syntax, without sudo, that wouldn't work...
[03:36] <duoi> SlidingHorn my user is root, so it would
[03:36] <duoi> but i don't think you can feed things into crontab -l
[03:37] <me1t> https://www.google.com/search?q=script+to+add+crontab+entry
[03:37] <me1t> there's a couple options provided here
[03:37] <me1t> deploying unit files to /var/spool/cron
[03:38] <SlidingHorn> duoi: check this out: https://stackoverflow.com/a/878647
[03:40] <duoi> SlidingHorn oh wow, thanks homie
[03:40] <duoi> :)
[03:41] <me1t> np
[03:43] <DarwinElf> i want to mount a fuse.sshfs fs on boot.  Blkid doesn't list it as having that stupid UUID field... will that fs still mount right anyway, or is it going to go into emergency mode like if I don't use a UUID for a HDD?
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> !uuid | DarwinElf can this help?
[03:45] <DarwinElf> that just listed something I already said
[03:46] <SlidingHorn> DarwinElf: This is a little old, but it should still be a valid concept: https://askubuntu.com/a/334171/474173
[03:46] <DarwinElf> looks like it will help
[03:47] <AndyChow888> DarwinElf, in fstab you can put a line like "USERNAME@HOSTNAME_OR_IP:/REMOTE/DIRECTORY  /LOCAL/MOUNTPOINT  fuse.sshfs  defaults,_netdev  0  0"
[03:47] <SlidingHorn> AndyChow888: that's what my link recommends, essentially
[03:47] <DarwinElf> that's what I have on more strictly Unix(-like) OSes
[03:48] <DarwinElf> that don't have the UUID for anything
[03:49] <AndyChow888> UUID is a more modern approach, because if you add a hard-drive, the /dev/sdX order might change. UUID prevents that, since the ID is unique. But using UUID is not required.
[03:49] <DarwinElf> actually it is
[03:49] <DarwinElf> I tried to convert my fstab from strictly Unix-like OSes and Kubuntu went into emergency mode without the UUID
[03:50] <DarwinElf> well seems required for HDDs on the same system, I mean
[03:53] <AndyChow888> Well, you might need to regen your grub when changing root UUID. Anyway, if it works, it works.
[03:54] <DarwinElf> it wasn't a root UUID
[03:55] <DarwinElf> but merely an external backup drive also with arguments 0 0, meaning it shouldn't be considered important if it couldn't mount... yet it was considered important enough to crash into emergency mode
[04:15] <me1t> any idea why my lubuntu 18.04 install would not allow me to enable the Trash Can? http://prntscr.com/lw76il
[04:16] <DarwinElf> thanks, TTYL
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> me1t: did you try this on another user?
[04:17] <me1t> i can do that
[04:17] <me1t> probably being a pain because i'm root
[04:17] <me1t> had to jiggle the wires on pulseaudio too
[04:30] <pressure679> There is this curse on Linux.. WiFi posts, askubuntu.com , 14.04, 16.04, 18.04.
[04:31] <pressure679> Good luck.
[05:31] <no-n> does anyone know a good google drive alternative for ubuntu? something that lets you sync directories with the cloud
[05:31] <SlidingHorn> no-n: nextcloud
[05:32] <no-n> thanks. I'll check it out.
[05:32] <_alx_> I don't really understand the /proc folder. Can I check running processes or something?
[05:33] <SlidingHorn> _alx_: ps aux | less
[05:41] <_alx_> SlidingHorn: i'm familiar with ps, but I read that the files the kernel reads is in /proc
[05:45] <_alx_> SlidingHorn: https://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/what-does-this-proc-directory-do-070307
[05:45] <ryuo> _alx_: /proc serves multiple purposes. it can be used to examine running process attributes, but it also holds non-process related data.
[05:46] <ryuo> it overlaps with /sys in some cases.
[05:46] <_alx_> ryuo: interesting!! So can I read the data sometimes?
[05:47] <ryuo> _alx_: /proc and /sys contain special files. sometimes they can be read from as if they were a normal file, but it's dependent on the provider of the file.
[05:47] <ryuo> other times they only respond to special system calls.
[05:48] <ryuo> ioctls i believe.
[05:48] <ryuo> even /dev too.
[05:50] <_alx_> ryuo: that makes a lot of sense! do you know any good resources where I can get more information ?
[05:50] <ryuo> _alx_: not really, though kernel docs are probably the official place.
[05:50] <ryuo> sometimes man pages have something.
[05:51] <AndyChow888> For sys, https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/sysfs.txt
[05:51] <ryuo> hm. man proc has a lot.
[05:51] <_alx_> ryuo: that will work! I'm working on the google CTF from this summer, now that I have time to look at it
[05:51] <AndyChow888> For /proc, https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt , you get the picture
[05:52] <AndyChow888> Usually, you can cat a proc or sys to check the config, or a lot of variables, like cpu temp, ect.
[05:53] <_alx_> AndyChow888: Yes!! Then this is exactly what I need to solve this challenge :)
[05:53] <ryuo> what they do is largely dependent on the kernel module.
[05:53] <ryuo> mostly in the case of /sys
[05:55] <AndyChow888> For example, in my specific hardware, to see the cpu temp, I do "cat /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon4/temp1_input"
[05:56] <ryuo> i mostly use /sys for debugging hardware support issues.
[05:56] <ryuo> E.g., backlight controls.
[05:58] <AndyChow888> Yeah. It gives you a ton of info. It's also good to see if your kernel parameters are set. It's good stuff.
[06:11] <_alx_> ryuo AndyChow888 thanks! I got some reading to do :)
[06:17] <_alx_> I can use /proc/self/exe to read out the current executable
[06:19] <_alx_> dang I think that might be the answer
[06:20] <_alx_> ehh sorry guys
[06:55] <mdemo> Generally what happens with packages in LTS releases that aren't supported anymore upstream? I'm thinking of https://blog.rapid7.com/2018/12/17/charting-the-forthcoming-phpocalypse-in-2019/ in particular.
[06:57] <mdemo> I guess this may be an answer: https://askubuntu.com/questions/318326/what-is-canonicals-lts-support-policy-for-eol-software
[07:29] <Rembo> hello, is udev patch require reboot?
[07:46] <AndyChow888> Rembo, what do you mean?
[08:22] <pi0> need help adding adb to profile
[08:22] <pi0> so it can be accessed from every were
[09:14] <Nowayz> Anybody using Ubuntu 18.10 know how to disable this awful on-screen keyboard
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> anyone feels like to test my bug if reproducable, feel free to add yourself affected, or other ideas to test: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/1790110
[09:14] <Nowayz> It's taking up my entire screen basically and it shifts the window up every time I click into a text field
[09:14] <Nowayz> also hell all
[09:15] <Nowayz> hello all*
[09:20] <epicmetal> How to check if any installed packages have vulnerabilities?
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> epicmetal: testing for security flaws is a complex business
[09:21] <epicmetal> lotuspsychje: as in, CVEs
[09:21] <Nowayz> You mean all installed packages?
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> epicmetal: are you looking to help security hardening, or you want to know if your system is safe?
[09:22] <epicmetal> lotuspsychje: the latter
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> epicmetal: if your system is up to date, there's less chance of security flaws
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> epicmetal: but that doesnt mean you are 100% safe
[09:22] <Nowayz> I don't think he's asking how to use AFL to fuzz applications, just automatically identify known bugs
[09:23] <epicmetal> I keep it patched, but it doesn't mean that the repo patches all vulns
[09:23] <epicmetal> e.g. universe/multiverse
[09:23] <Nowayz> How much software are you worried about
[09:24] <epicmetal> Nothing specifically
[09:24] <epicmetal> Some distros have a checker tool
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> epicmetal: if today a security flaw is found in an ubuntu package, your system 'could' be compromized, if tomorrows its patched & updated your more safe again
[09:24] <epicmetal> Installed packages vs CVEs
[09:24] <epicmetal> e.g. Gentoo has glsa-check
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> epicmetal: but common sense, if your system is up to date at all times, you are good to go
[09:24] <Nowayz> Have you looked at the tool debscan?
[09:24] <epicmetal> Ah
[09:25] <epicmetal> Yeah I vaguely remember this from Debian
[09:25] <epicmetal> Does it apply to Ubuntu
[09:25] <epicmetal> debsecan*
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> epicmetal: also handy is the tool lynis, to see a whole scan of your system where security can improve
[09:26] <Nowayz> @epicmetal Debscan information comes from ubuntu-security tracker
[09:27] <Nowayz> If installed from Ubuntu repository
[09:27] <Nowayz> I believe this is the case, though it would be good to verify
[09:27] <epicmetal> Hmm, there's a lot of vulns
[09:27] <epicmetal> But I just patched
[09:28] <epicmetal> Hmm, this uses security-tracker.debian.org :)
[09:29] <Nowayz> It looks like you are right, I wonder if there is a similar application which queries Ubuntu's own tracker
[09:30] <epicmetal>  /usr/sbin/lynis: 204: .: Can't open /usr/share/lynis/include/consts
[09:31] <epicmetal> Nowayz: not sure :)
[09:36] <Nowayz> Does anybody know how to turn off the screen keyboard for touch-screens?
[09:47] <onjen>  /join #ubuntu-release
[10:05] <epicmetal> Is there some artificial slowdown of the alt-tab dialog appearing in 18.10?
[10:06] <epicmetal> It feels slower to appear than e.g. Debian Stretch
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> epicmetal: keep in mind that 18.10 is a non-tults, if you need stable choose an LTS version of ubun
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> *non-lts
[10:33] <Kyros> such a useful answer
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> !who | Kyros
[10:37] <JimBuntu> !cookie | lotuspsychje
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> tnx :p
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:23] <quix> hello, how to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH for a specific application?
[11:26] <wudo_honour> hi, guy . "..... ..... ..... .!?!! .?... ..... ..... ...?. "what is the code ?
[11:26] <wudo_honour> do you  know that? please tell me .
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> wudo_honour: can we help you?
[11:27] <wudo_honour> I wanna decode like this "..... ..... ..... .!?!! .?... ..... ..... ...?. ?!.?. ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..!.? ..... ..... .!?!! .?"
[11:27] <wudo_honour> what is like that?
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> !support | wudo_honour
[11:27] <JimBuntu> wudo_honour, please define "decode"
[11:28] <wudo_honour> I knew  something like that , call "brainfuck code" . but I did not know about that.
[11:29] <JimBuntu> wudo_honour, please watch the language in this channel. We try to keep it family friendly and safe for work.
[11:31] <quix> that guy is wasting your time
[11:32] <wudo_honour> ok
[11:32] <quix> how to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH for a specific application? export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/path/to/app" ?
[11:32] <quix> I want an app to load i386 libraries instead of x64
[11:33] <JimBuntu> quix, I don't know the proper way ( if there is one for app specific changes ), but yeah, if you change the export and then run the app from that terminal with the modified environment, it should use that modified environment
[11:34] <JimBuntu> You wouldn't change the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the app path though, you would want to change it to the path to the i386 libraries.
[11:35] <quix> what about running the app in terminal like this: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ ./path/to/app
[11:35] <quix> does that change anytihng?
[11:36] <JimBuntu> quix, I don't understand why you are adding the app path to the library path
[11:36] <JimBuntu> Oh, I see
[11:37] <JimBuntu> Yes quix , in that case, the app should be using the environment you ran it from
[11:37] <JimBuntu> Applications can also have their own settings though, so it's not a sure thing.
[11:39] <quix> ok, thanks JimBuntu
[11:53] <zzarr_> Hello!
[11:55] <zzarr_> I have a machine that's running a xen guest
[11:56] <zzarr_> the host accepts ssh connections, but don't have any connection out, the guest accepts connections and can make connections too
[11:57] <zzarr_> the hosts interfaces file looks like this https://pastebin.com/wbun2eci
[11:58] <zzarr_> ohh... it's a dns problem, nevermind
[12:05] <epicmetal> Is it normal to have to drop to a commandline to configure TrackPoint sensitivity? All I get in Gnome is "Mouse Speed" but I want speed and sensitivity (which I've found in /sys/devices)
[12:08] <NTQ> I own a virtual server which has a very low upper limit for inodes I can not change, it's 1,800,000. I am constantly reaching 98% percent or more of used inodes which is a problem. My idea was to create one big file and mount it as a new filesystem to create new inodes. Do you think that is a good idea when increasing the inodes of the main filesystem is not possible?
[12:11] <epicmetal> I've got a process with an empty /proc/foo/cmdline. In ps it shows as "[none]" or "none". What is this?
[12:12] <epicmetal> in systemd-cgls it is sitting directly under -.slice
[12:12] <epicmetal> PID 279
[12:13] <NTQ> epicmetal: Maybe it tries to hide the parameters it was started with?
[12:13] <epicmetal> NTQ: how do I show the true executable?
[12:13] <BlackDex> Hello there. I'm using 18.04, and for some reason when i'm starting gparted (or any other application with sudo) it causes a open file limit reached error. Can't track it down, and it seems to be strange with the default settings. Someone knows about an issue?
[12:13] <epicmetal> I've already tried ps c
[12:14] <NTQ> epicmetal: Perhaps the process does not have a command line? Think kernel threads.
[12:15] <NTQ> Did you try ps aux?
[12:15] <epicmetal> NTQ: yes, it shows as "[none]"
[12:16] <epicmetal> NTQ: strange name for a kernel thread
[12:16] <NTQ> epicmetal: I am no expert in this, this are just assumptions
[12:17] <epicmetal> At least my GUI is pretty
[12:21] <maetthew> Anyone using ProtonMail Bridge Beta and have managed to get it to work? Geary's giving me an error that it doesn't have anywhere to store certificates
[12:27] <maetthew> Here's the error message after I click "Trust forever" when Geary asks me if I want to trust the certificate: https://imgur.com/a/rllzfQa
[12:34] <maetthew> Never mind, found solution here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736640#c27
[13:04] <valla> Hi, anyone here that knows how to set a label to a loopback interface on ubuntu server with netplan?
[13:05] <valla> on older server it would fit in /etc/network/interfaces like "up ip addr add 2.2.2.2/32 dev lo label lo:alabel"
[13:14] <ioria> valla, have you tried with set-name ?
[13:18] <valla> ioria: nope but now I will! =)
[13:19] <valla> ioria: hmmm I get "lo: set-name: requires match: properties"
[13:19] <john_alan> hi
[13:19] <john_alan> anyone about?
[13:19] <me1t> no
[13:19] <john_alan> lol
[13:19] <john_alan> ok
[13:19] <john_alan> are there any good channels for a stoopid question on linux ?
[13:20] <me1t> !ask
[13:21] <ioria> valla, https://netplan.io/examples#loopback-interface
[13:22] <valla> ioria: yeah I did look at that one.. I can set the IP no problem, I just need to add a label as well
[13:24] <john_alan> ok - so I have a really basic question but I googled a lot and I cannot see a clean way to do it. I regularly use command lines apps, such as the Monero wallet, there are times when a command line program will request input (such as the location of a file, etc). I am trying to setup an alias so that I can simply use a single word to refer to a complicatedPath/someFile.name, I can't seem to get it to work using Aliases ?
[13:26] <ioria> valla, if you can't set the label in the yaml file, you can always use the old cmd (ip address add ...) with a hook  https://netplan.io/faq#use-pre-up-post-up-etc-hook-scripts
[13:27] <valla> ioria: aha yeah that might be a workaround
[13:27] <imi> hi how do I make bugs.launchpad.net send me an email when someone responds to a bug I submitted?
[13:28] <me1t> john_alan glad to hear you are using monero :)   what you want is called a symbolic link or symlink
[13:29] <me1t> john_alan usage:   ln -s target link     example:   ln -s monero-gui_blablabla/start_gui.sh  xmrwallet
[13:29] <me1t> trhen you can just do:  ./xmrwallet
[13:30] <mijndert> me1t: or easier and imo more portable, a bash alias
[13:31] <me1t> ah well yes
[13:31] <me1t> that works too
[13:31] <mijndert> alias foo="bar"
[13:34] <geirha> john_alan: Use a function. Unlike an alias, a function can take arguments
[13:34] <john_alan> @me1t @mijndert thanks folks! Yup love Monero. So there isn't a clean way to be able to alias my Monero wallet file and use that alias when prompted by the Monero wallet cli? (other than symlinking the entire app with an input param)
[13:34] <john_alan> @geirha ok will check it out
[13:34] <john_alan> thanks
[13:34] <me1t> dude dont store your wallet password
[13:34] <john_alan> its ledger based, so its only the pub view key
[13:34] <me1t> if you want to add arguments then use the alias method
[13:35] <john_alan> don't worry my opsec is good
[13:35] <john_alan> :D
[13:35] <me1t> you can store the alias in your ~/.bashrc
[13:35] <me1t> and it will be active each session
[13:35] <john_alan> :+1
[13:35] <john_alan> awesome, thanks @me1t
[13:35] <q9> Hi, how do i read the MAC= statement in the nftables-log? Is that documented somewhere?
[13:36] <me1t> put it on a pastebin q9 so we can see it
[13:36] <mijndert> geirha: any arguments will be added after the alias
[13:37] <geirha> mijndert: not exactly. When the first word of a command is an alias, it is replaced by the content of the alias. The alias itself can't act on the arguments (e.g. with "$1" or "$@")
[13:38] <mijndert> geirha: I have an alias for 'git' to 'g' (because I'm lazy) and can still do stuff like 'g status' in which case 'status' is an argument to 'g', or do I not understand your case correctly? :)
[13:39] <john_alan> thanks boys, working like a dream now. Remember Ubuntu+GPG+Monero == happiness, ATH on the way
[13:39] <geirha> mijndert: yes, because it simply replaced g with git, so g status became git status
[13:41] <mijndert> geirha: TIL, thank you
[13:48] <q9> here's some log-line i stole from the web. https://bpaste.net/show/af747b51e54d
[13:49] <q9> I'm  interested in the MAC= part. I know the first 12 numbers are two mac-addresses ,but what are the last 2?
[13:53] <JimBuntu> q9, are you talking about the src and dst?
[13:57] <q9> No, about MAC MAC=00:30:4f:1c:40:1d:f8:ca:b8:45:74:56:08:00   I can't find documentation how to read the nftables-log
[14:02] <cryptodan> q9, have a look at the iptables log reading it should be similar
[14:02] <Teodoro777> Hi, Recently I changed the operating system and I would not want to lose the boxes I had. So I copied all the old files in the same directory .locali / share / gnome-boxes / images of the new operating system (Ubuntu) hoping to read them ... Unfortunately when I go into boxes it does not find anything, as if I had not copied anything. What can I do?
[14:04] <cryptodan> Teodoro777: check permissions
[14:09] <q9> cryptodan: Thanks. It's the ethernet frame type
[14:11] <maetthew> Anyone got an idea why buttons in notifications doesn't do anything when pressed in Budgie 18.10? I'm new to linux desktop enviroments so I'm at loss here
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: an idea could be testing a liveusb 18.04.1 LTS and compare if its working there
[14:14] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: That's an idea, thanks. I'll try that if there are no other suggestions
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: well as you can see, the budgie channel is pretty small so not sure youl get responds there
[14:15] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: Yeah I see that so I crossposted here
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: maybe it can also help, if you screenshot and share to the channel, volunteers can take a look
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: well normally crossposting isnt allowed, but in your case budgie channel is pretty empty so
[14:17] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: I thought about it but not thought it wouldn't really add anything. It's just a normal notification with a "View" button for instance when you mention me in here. Haven't been able to use any buttons on any notifications though
[14:17] <maetthew> Yeah ok, we'll see if any OPs wanna correct me :)
[14:24] <maetthew> Here's a screenshot with contents blurred for reference: https://imgur.com/MlE3vqC
[14:24] <maetthew> The "view" button doesn't do anything when pressed
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: can you tell us what kind of graphics card you have?
[14:25] <maetthew> lspci -v
[14:25] <maetthew> oops :D
[14:26] <maetthew> Nvidia GTX 1080
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: and your driver loaded?
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: you can check that in software&updates tab additional drivers, if budgie has that
[14:27] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: Yeah I think so. I nvidia-390
[14:28] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: https://imgur.com/a/GIo2QQ6
[14:28] <maetthew> That's what you want?
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: an idea could be switching drivers, and also compare if this influences your blur
[14:29] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: I blurred the contents myself with GIMP if that wasn't obvious. It was a message from Caprine (Facebook Messenger app)
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: oh, can you provide more info about that notification button?
[14:30] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: I installed these drivers yesterday, before that I was just running whatever was installed/shipped with Budgie and I couldn't use the buttons then anyway
[14:31] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: I can PM you an unblurred one if you want? It's just the senders facebook profile pic, with their name and excerpt from message.
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: for gtx cards we reccomend also try the ubuntu graphics ppa, the more later drivers like 396 or 410
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: no need for pm tnx
[14:32] <maetthew> https://imgur.com/a/kVRv66O
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: did you try different browsers?
[14:32] <maetthew> Here have a quick look and I can delete it after if you wanna see the whole notification
[14:32] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: As in web browsers? Not sure what that would accomplish? To clarify, it's the same problem no matter the application
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: but this window, is from the system or from FB?
[14:33] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: From system. Notification applet in Budgie desktop settings
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> ok, try the drivers part then maetthew
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: is your system up to date to latest also?
[14:34] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: Allright will do. Thanks
[14:34] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: Yeah upgraded like 12 hrs ago
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: allright tnx, if the drivers dont fix, try an LTS liveusb to compare ok
[14:36] <maetthew> I'm trying to ditch windows and installed Budgie 2 days ago so it's a fresh install. 18.04 initially and I'm pretty sure the problem was there as well but not 100% certain. Upgraded to 18.10 yesterday because of something else that didn't work and read somewhere it might fix it.
[14:36] <maetthew> Yeah will do, thanks
[14:38] <motte> hi, i set up raid 5 and now my dmesg is getting spammed with messages that contain only the drive names of the raid array. see paste - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ncJPKhrrkk/ . why would this happen?
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: if you sure 18.04.1 had the same trouble, might be graphics drivers
[14:40] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: Yeah will try that. Thanks
[14:40] <Industrial> Hi. `which python3` => `/usr/bin/python3` and `which pip3` => `/home/tom/.local/bin/pip3`.
[14:40] <Industrial> I have removed the ubuntu python-pip and python-pip3 packages.
[14:41] <Industrial> What has installed this pip in this location and how do I get rid of it?
[14:41] <josefig> good morning, does the desktop installation process on ubuntu 18.04 supports encrypted partitions ? or should I wait for the installation finishes and then mount it separately ?
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> Industrial: did you add python ppa's of any kind to your system?
[14:44] <Industrial> lotuspsychje: none
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> Industrial: does apt spit out errors of any kind?
[14:47] <Industrial> lotuspsychje: none.
[14:47] <alekksander> my wifi adapter switches on, then off and then on again on system start resulting long delay for stable connection. could someone look at my logs?
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> Industrial: your ubuntu version please?
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> alekksander: your ubuntu version, wifi chipset and driver version please?
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> Industrial: try sudo apt purge python3-pip
[15:05] <maetthew> Am I allowed to paste multi lines (2 in this case) in here?
[15:09] <TheSilentLink> do ubuntu only update fwupd every major release?
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: 2 lines is not flooding, but mainly we try pastebin here
[15:10] <maetthew> @lotuspsychje Yeah got ya
[15:13] <maetthew> Anyone know why I get the following in journalctl when trying to open indicator-kdeconnect?
[15:14] <maetthew> dec 18 15:56:20 mabudgie gnome-software[2827]: failed to rescan: Failed to parse /usr/share/applications/indicator-kdeconnect.desktop file: cannot process file of type application/x-desktop
[15:14] <maetthew> dec 18 15:56:20 mabudgie gnome-software[2827]: failed to rescan: Failed to parse /usr/share/applications/indicator-kdeconnect-settings.desktop file: cannot process file of type application/x-desktop
[15:30] <citrix> Hello All
[15:30] <citrix> what version of Ubuntu is supported with Ryzen 5?
[15:32] <citrix> Any one here ?
[15:32] <pragmaticenigma> !ask citrix
[15:32] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | citrix
[15:32] <citrix> pragmaticenigma, I already asked :)
[15:32] <citrix> what version of Ubuntu is supported with Ryzen 5?
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> citrix: Then have patience, it is possible no one presently has an answer for your question. As for CPU support, there are no processor archetectures that I am aware of that are not compatible with any Linux distribution.
[15:36] <citrix> pragmaticenigma, Yes true :) But actually i tried with ubuntu 18.04.1 but i get a black blank screen
[15:38] <pragmaticenigma> black screens are not usually the fault of the CPU, it is usually an issue with the graphics card.  The top 5 results I receive from google for "Ubuntu 18.04.1 black screen on boot" all have solutions to try to pin point the cause
[15:39] <pragmaticenigma> citrix: best place to start is nomodeset for a kernel option
[15:40] <citrix> you mean just adding "nomodset" in boot/grub
[15:40] <simpledat> Hi. Why is there updates when I run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. But this updates does not appear in Ubuntu Update Manager?
[15:41] <pragmaticenigma> citrix: yes
[15:41] <simpledat> How is the proper way to update the system? Should I use Ubuntu Update Manager or the terminal?
[15:42] <pragmaticenigma> simpledat: both use the same application to process updates and can perform the update. it is possible the update manager is using locally cached data and hasn't updated to see the new additional updates
[15:43] <simpledat> pragmaticenigma: How do you then update the manager to see the new additional updates? How do you solve it?
[15:45] <pragmaticenigma> simpledat: best to let it do its thing. best thing to do to prove to yourself it is working is let the software updater do its thing, then see if there are additional updates when it is done. If it doesn't show anything, then try the command line, if it shows additional updates, install them and move on. You can try some commands like "apt clean all" and "apt autoclean" that may help.
[15:47] <simpledat> pragmaticenigma: How can I let it do its thing when the updates doesnt shows up in the manager? Is this a known issue for Ubuntu however?
[15:49] <simpledat> For Linux Mint I heard that you should use the Update manager do all the updates. Because if you use the terminal to do it, it could broke the updates somehow.
[15:49] <simpledat> broke/mess up the updates*
[15:49] <simpledat> But thats for Linux Mint.
[15:50] <simpledat> If the Ubuntu users should use the update manager then it shoud work probably. right ?
[15:51] <simpledat> I can not be the only one with this issue for Ubuntu. There has to be a way to fix this.
[15:51] <ioria> Phased Updates
[15:52] <simpledat> ioria: What do you mean?
[15:56] <akem> Hey, my usb stick mounts itself as readonly when i plug it; i tried to run fsck.vfat (since it's vfat fs) to fix errors, but it stills automount readonly when i plug it, what should i do to fix this?
[15:58] <pragmaticenigma> simpledat: the software updater doesn't install everything at one time, letting it run, install and then see if there are more updates is what I suggested.
[16:00] <xamithan> You can try to format your stick,  thats about it
[16:00] <xamithan> Otherwise just toss it and get a new one
[16:01] <xamithan> It mounts readonly when it encounters errors
[16:02] <akem> Yes, the errors: "FAT-fs (sdc1): error, corrupted directory (invalid entries)"
[16:02] <akem> But fsck didn't fix, i ran it 2 times.
[16:02] <simpledat> pragmaticenigma: That is exactly what I did. I installed the updates then I refresh the software updater and it say there is no more updates. But when I run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade there is more updates.
[16:02] <xamithan> format might not even fix it.  I've seen those errors with so many sticks
[16:02] <xamithan> They do go bad
[16:03] <stofflswelt> Hi! I just cloned a dualboot hdd using hdclone. Windows boots. But how can I reinstall Grub so that I can boot ubuntu again?
[16:04] <xamithan> boot a livecd,  chroot to your installation,  do a grub-install
[16:04] <stofflswelt> thanks
[16:05] <Gargravarr> stofflswelt: follow the instructions here up to 7. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure
[16:05] <pragmaticenigma> simpledat: If you are concerned then run "apt upgrade" and move on... you're expending way too much thought into the matter
[16:05] <akem> xamithan, I plugged the key on Windows, and it fixed the problem, even on my Ubuntu now it mounts RW...but i don't know why i couldn't fix it directly on Ubuntu.
[16:05] <Gargravarr> then 'grub-install /dev/<your HDD>'
[16:05] <akem> key=usb stick
[16:06] <pragmaticenigma> akem: VFAT is not a native format for linux, tools are limited for what can be done to fix it
[16:07] <simpledat> pragmaticenigma: Im just concern that the software updater doesnt work probably. As you told, the software updater should work as if you did it truth the terminal, right?
[16:07] <Gargravarr> akem: pragmaticenigma: the actual disk repair procedure for VFAT on Linux is 'copy all your data somewhere else and reformat it'
[16:08] <Gargravarr> there is no repair tool
[16:08] <pragmaticenigma> simpledat: as ioria mentioned, there is a thing called staged rollouts... I'm not familiar enough or seen documentation on its implementation. What it typically means is that some updates are not installed right away despite being available. It could be to make sure other updates are installed and showing stability before the next batch. Could be to see if bug reports are coming in from an update before it gets
[16:08] <pragmaticenigma> distributed to everyone and a large storm of bug tickets arrives.
[16:09] <akem> I see, thanks pragmaticenigma, Gargravarr.
[16:09] <Gargravarr> i've encountered this before,fsck.vfat basically does nothing useful
[16:09] <volkswagner> Greetings, I have a fresh install of 18.04.1 server using alternate .iso as kvm client. I reused an existing vm and selected "use entire disk" during install
[16:10] <akem> I think i'll use fat32 or NTFS, cause i want it to be compatible for Windows and Macs, maybe only fat32 for macs...
[16:10] <volkswagner> boot fails but I can’t see any error, I tried recovery then reinstall grub option which fails with exit 1
[16:10] <Gargravarr> akem: Macs support NTFS but in read-only mode. there's experimental read/write through NTFS-3G
[16:10] <Sven_vB> please help with avahi/mDNS on Ubuntu bionic. everything works fine in the live session. after reboot into the installed bionic, `avahi-resolve-host-name xxxx.local` -> "xxxx.local     192.168.xx.xx" but `ping xxxx.local` -> "ping: xxxx.local: Temporary failure in name resolution"
[16:10] <volkswagner> it’s msdos partiion, single partition for / and swap file according to fstab on /dev/vda
[16:11] <pragmaticenigma> akem: FAT32 tends to be the universal disk format for most OS's though its performance is terrible and file size limitations are troublesome
[16:11] <volkswagner> the recovery mode also recognizes disk as /dev/vda
[16:11] <akem> Gargravarr, yeah, but not out of the box, you have to install/configure something.
[16:11] <muhaha> Is there any systemd audit log in Ubuntu?  Or to view system activity I have to install auditd package and then look into /var/log/audit/audit.log, right ?
[16:11] <Gargravarr> pragmaticenigma: i continue to be disappointed with the lack of a decent filesystem that supports >4GB files and works on Windows/Mac/Linux
[16:12] <B1ack0p> hi
[16:12] <Gargravarr> akem: read-only support is there out of the box
[16:12] <akem> pragmaticenigma, yep... but no real alternative.
[16:12] <akem> Gargravarr, ok.
[16:12] <volkswagner> I used this link for .iso http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04.1/release/ubuntu-18.04.1-server-amd64.iso
[16:12] <simpledat> pragmaticenigma: What are you personally do? Are you waiting for the updates from the software updater or do you use the terminal? What is your recommendation?
[16:12] <B1ack0p> i am having this error when i try to update : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dnVgfgFhSn/
[16:12] <Sven_vB> `grep hosts: /etc/nsswitch.conf` -> "hosts:          files mdns4_minimal mdns4 [NOTFOUND=return] resolve [!UNAVAIL=return] dns", `grep -Pe '^[^#]' /etc/resolv.conf` -> "nameserver 127.0.0.53"
[16:12] <xamithan> does exFAT not work on mac os ?
[16:12] <pragmaticenigma> simpledat: I use terminal for my updates
[16:13] <xamithan> Thats what most usb drives come formatted as nowadays
[16:13] <simpledat> pragmaticenigma: That mean you never use the software updater?
[16:13] <nacc> B1ack0p: plese don't paste the tail of the log, paste the entire command and output
[16:13] <pragmaticenigma> simpledat: no, I don't use the graphical interface for updates
[16:14] <B1ack0p> ok
[16:14] <B1ack0p> i am having this error : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4Pf7jQqBJ7/
[16:15] <simpledat> pragmaticenigma: Alright. What about security updates? Dont you think the software updater should updates this right away?
[16:16] <pragmaticenigma> simpledat: depends on the security update and its severity.
[16:17] <hggdh> simpledat: the software updater runs on a schedule -- every day, or every week, during the wee hours of the morning. Depending on how you configure it, it will auto-install security, or leave all for the user to approve
[16:18] <simpledat> hggdh: It doesnt matter how I configure it. The issue here is that even if I press the "Refresh" buttom. The updates doesnt shows up.
[16:18] <britton> On 18.04, trying to do some recording in Audacity. I have a usb interface. I can hear myself find when I turn on the monitor, pretty crisp. Recorded sound is terrible, static and muffled. Any idea how to troubleshoot/fix this issue?
[16:19] <hggdh> simpledat: so, Let's say the soft updater runs at 03:00, and proposes some n updates for approval. You then, at (say) 07:00 manually runs apt update. It is highly probable both will have different update lists
[16:20] <hggdh> well, not "highly probable", but "possible"
[16:20] <pragmaticenigma> simpledat: Most refresh buttons are placebo... If the applicaiton looked and successfully communicated with the update server within the last 24 hours, it won't repull a list until at least 24 hours later
[16:20] <Sven_vB> looks like I need to enable https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/resolved.conf.html#MulticastDNS= . will investigate.
[16:20] <simpledat> Thanks
[16:21] <ioria> simpledat, for the user, the update-manager is safer; gives time to correct problems  (we're not considering bugs here)
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> !sound | britton start here
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[16:28] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: You mentioned the Ubuntu graphics drivers PPA and nvidia-396 and nvidia-410. Is this the correct ppa? Because apt can't find either after I added PPA. ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[16:30] <ioria> maetthew, nvidia-graphics-drivers-410
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: did you sudo apt update?
[16:30] <maetthew> ioria: Ah, all documentation I found named them nvidia-410
[16:30] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: yes
[16:30] <ioria> maetthew, https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[16:31] <maetthew> Hmm, that's the ppa I added
[16:31] <maetthew> E: Unable to locate package nvidia-graphics-drivers-410
[16:31] <maetthew> Still
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> britton: you can try launching audacity from terminal aswell, see if you get errors there?
[16:32] <ioria> maetthew,  nvidia-driver-410
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: ubuntu-drivers list
[16:32] <maetthew> ioria: yeah thats the one cheers
[16:32] <ioria> lol
[16:32] <maetthew> ah useful lotuspsychje
[16:32] <maetthew> So, uninstall old drivers first, right?
[16:33] <maetthew> Or can I just install a later driver?
[16:33] <ioria> maetthew, if you ask me yes
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> ioria: maetthew has a notification window on budgie 18.04 and 18.10 problem, cant click OK
[16:34] <maetthew> Let's see if this fixes it. Will be trying 396 first then 410
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> ioria: https://imgur.com/a/kVRv66O
[16:34] <ioria> maetthew, i usually purge the previous drivers .... lotuspsychje  wghat problem ?
[16:35] <maetthew> ioria: the problem I'm having is that I can't click any buttons from the notification applet
[16:35] <maetthew> Well, I can click them. But nothing happens
[16:37] <ioria> maetthew, budgie desktop ?
[16:37] <britton>  lotuspsychje I saved myself some time, tried a diff mic first and it has to be the setup, mic, or cord etc. ty thou
[16:37] <maetthew> ioria: Yeah. I'm on 18.10 right now. About 90% sure the same problem was in 18.04. I initially did a fresh install of 18.04 two days ago, then upgraded 18.10 about ~12 hrs ago
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> britton: fixxed?
[16:38] <rneese> where do I find pkg maintainers
[16:38] <maetthew> rebooting, brb. wish me luck :)
[16:38] <rneese> qt5libmultimedia-dev is missing
[16:38] <britton> Well, yeah, it's not a system issue. Now gotta figure out if it's the mic cord or other.
[16:38] <ioria> luck
[16:39] <balance1> hi, a friend has a ubuntu server and if he has a usb device plugged in at start up he gets into maintenance mode- why's that?
[16:39] <britton> Any one experience with recording in Ubuntu? Figure I'll shop for a new interface that plays best with Ubuntu/Linux
[16:40] <britton> I use Mac right now, which is great, but been hoping to move everything to my linux, since everything else is.
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> britton: gnome sound recorder works pretty nice
[16:40] <britton> Mean like a hardware box, for MIDI and such.
[16:41] <britton> Probably doesn't matter, I guess most will work but you never know
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> balance1: join #ubuntu-server please for likeminded support
[16:42] <balance1> thanks
[16:43] <Mathisen> britton, https://lmms.io/
[16:43] <rneese> I cant build a pkg because the qt5libmultimedia-dev is missing
[16:44] <rneese> post full error in a min
[16:45] <ioria> !info qtmultimedia5-dev
[16:46] <maetthew> Wtf. Nvidia-396 installation went fine. But now I cant open quassel for some reason.. Have to IRC from my phone.
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:47] <rneese> thanks
[16:47] <ioria> maetthew, start it from terminal
[16:49] <maetthew> Okay so now I'm in irssi instead :P
[16:49] <maetthew> Starting from terminal won't work either
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: try the notifications?
[16:50] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: Yeah I was gonna. I know I can use send-notify to make a notification. But how do I add a button to it? :P
[16:50] <maetthew> Otherwise I have to wait until someone messages me on Facebook :P
[16:51] <maetthew> ioria: This is the output when I'm trying to open quassel from terminal: https://pastebin.com/rw5jv9Xz
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: wich quassel version is that
[16:56] <Piraty> hi. when i install latest ubuntu, can i switch back to lts later ?
[16:56] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: quassel v0.12.5 (dist-f29f852)
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> !info quassel cosmic
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> Piraty: downgrading is not supported
[16:57] <Mathisen> Piraty, yes but not recommended.
[16:58] <Piraty> thing is: i got new hardware that works better with latest, but would like to have lts on there some time
[16:58] <Piraty> to be safe from breakage
[16:58] <maetthew> How the hell do I make notify-send display a button? My google-fu fails me
[16:58] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> i have an old computer. It only supported old ubuntu version (8.10).
[16:58] <Mathisen> Piraty, downgrading will most likely result in major breaking.
[16:58] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> the problem is i can't connect to the web
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: send yourself a FB msg? :p
[16:59] <Mathisen> Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2, look for a diffrent dist then ubuntu
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2: or maybe a lubuntu 16.04
[17:00] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: wow had no idea you could even do that. But that doesn't generate a notification. I'm guessing it's because the message gets "read" by me instantly
[17:00] <ioria> maetthew, and this happened after installing proprietary drivers ?
[17:01] <maetthew> ioria: The quassel problem yes. Right after reboot after installation of nvidia-driver-396
[17:01] <ioria> maetthew,  apt-cache policy quassel
[17:02] <ioria> maetthew,  and  notify-send  "hello world !"    not working ?
[17:03] <maetthew> ioria: https://pastebin.com/09j3tJS9
[17:03] <maetthew> ioria: Yes that works but it doesn't display a button for me to test. I need to create a notification with a button that does something
[17:04] <ioria> maetthew,  ah, xmesssage  (but is ugly)laso zenity
[17:04] <ioria> *also
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: are you sure graphics driver installed correctly?
[17:06] <ppf> i have a pdf that contains caret annotations
[17:06] <ppf> my pdf viewers aren't showing that
[17:06] <ppf> i'm on bionic
[17:06] <ppf> is there anything i can do?
[17:06] <maetthew> ioria: Thanks but's that not the same kind of notification at all. I'm getting notifications from the notification applet in Budgie Desktop Settings if that wasn't clear
[17:06] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: As far as I could tell from the output. There were no errors that I could see
[17:06] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> thanks, lotuspsychje, Mathisen
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> ppf: did you try inkscape
[17:07] <rneese> ppf put that beaver away its to powerfull
[17:07] <rneese> jk
[17:07] <maetthew> ioria: And the only way I found to "force" a similar notification is with notify-send, but I can't figure out how to make a button appear on it
[17:07] <ppf> you guys drunk? ^^
[17:08] <ppf> lotuspsychje: i had not, but why would i?
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> ppf: inkscape seems usefull for pdf editing and more, worth a try?
[17:08] <citrix> I am getting "The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes"
[17:08] <ppf> lotuspsychje: trying to view, not trying to edit
[17:09] <citrix> the drive is of 16 GB but 58 GB
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> ppf: i said 'and more' :p
[17:09] <ioria> maetthew,  No, notify-send doesn't support the use of actions/buttons.
[17:09] <ppf> lotuspsychje: right
[17:09] <ppf> since _all_ the viewers don't show it it's most likely a poppler problem
[17:12] <maetthew> ioria: Ah then I can stop looking. Anyway, the kind of notification I'm talking about is this (but with a button): https://imgur.com/wncQDiy
[17:12] <maetthew> Atleast I think it's the same
[17:13] <ioria> maetthew,  and what command or action has generated that popup ?ù
[17:14] <maetthew> ioria: Well several different applications. But for instance I have "Caprine" installed which is a Facebook messenger client. It displays the profile picture of the sender along with names and an excerpt of their message. And with a "view" button
[17:14] <ioria> ah,isee
[17:15] <ioria> maetthew,  nope, cannot helpyou with that
[17:15] <maetthew> ioria: All right. I'll have to wait and see until someone messages me on facebook then I guess. Hopefully I'll be able to get a screenshot cause they're only visible for a couple of seconds
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: check sudo lshw -C video to make sure your driver loaded?
[17:17] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/VP9tTztD
[17:17] <maetthew> not sure what i'm looking for
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> looks good maetthew
[17:17] <maetthew> k hmm
[17:20] <maetthew> Maybe I should've rebooted between uninstall and reinstall of drivers, could that be an issue?
[17:20] <maetthew> or install of newer drivers rather
[17:20] <rneese> ./usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ludev
[17:21] <rneese> grrr
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> maetthew: wait up for the popup first
[17:21] <maetthew> lotuspsychje: Yeah I'll do that
[17:21] <ppf> rneese: install it :)
[17:22] <rneese> udev is installs
[17:22] <ppf> you need libudev
[17:23] <ppf> !info libudev1
[17:23] <ioria> maetthew,  it opens and crashes or not opening at all ?
[17:23] <rneese> libudev1 is already the newest version (237-3ubuntu10.9).
[17:25] <maetthew> ioria: Quassel? Doesn't open at all. When trying to open from plank there isn't even a response at all (like a "bounce" or something). When trying from terminal it doesn't open at all but it doesn't crash either
[17:25] <ioria> maetthew, do you have a  ~/.config/quassel-irc.org/quasselclient.conf   file?
[17:26] <maetthew> ioria: Yup. https://pastebin.com/dTU0VAhi
[17:28] <rneese> libudev-dev was needed it seems
[17:29] <maetthew> ioria: Output when trying to start from terminal: https://pastebin.com/nZdRbMzg
[17:30] <ioria> maetthew, yes, i googled Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module  and does not seems fatal; what i can suggest is  sudo apr purge quassel ; remove all its files from ~/.config or ~/.cache ; run sudo apt autoremove --purge; and install again quassel
[17:31] <maetthew> Actually that's not all. After like a minute it starts spouting more messages: https://pastebin.com/CXyRRxYf
[17:32] <maetthew> ioria: Yeah I'll try that. I have a feeling this is not exclusive to quassel though as I saw the same error on other commands. I'll try a re-install
[17:32] <maetthew> For instance the same message appears with zenity
[17:33] <ioria> maetthew,  sy, afk ,i'll be back soon
[17:33] <maetthew> ioria: np. thanks for your effort anyway. I gtg in a couple of mins as well
[17:38] <maetthew> ioria: Reinstall seems to have worked. That message still appears from terminal though.
[17:49] <josefig> I have a proliant dl380 g7 and just installed ubuntu 18.04 desktop but it hangs in the login area, the live cd works great. I was reading that it could be the driver it has a ATI ES1000 series, I tried to do blacklist radeon but didnt work it still hangs at login area, any suggests?
[17:51] <ryuo> ... Desktop on a server system?
[17:51]  * ryuo boggles.
[17:52] <ppf> why not
[17:52] <ryuo> No reason, just sounded a bit unusual.
[17:53] <ppf> there's not _so_ much difference
[17:53] <josefig> ryuo, i'm adding a LTSP environment, it worked good on 14.04 LTS but not on 18.04 LTS
[17:53] <josefig> I'm not sure what is the module which is loaded i'm trying something else
[17:53] <deadrom> hi
[17:54] <deadrom> got 2 swap partitions. only 1 is used. swapon -a should use both. does not. needs fstab?
[17:55] <deadrom> ah, it's not in fstab, alright
[17:56] <ryuo> we
[17:56] <ryuo> err
[17:56] <deadrom> different question: 16gb machine, if I want to suspend to disk - need 16gb swap or more?
[18:01] <BluesKaj> no, somewhat larger than the size of your /
[18:01] <rneese> thanks pkg built and works
[18:04] <ioria> maetthew,  what message 'Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module' ?
[19:23] <goodafternoon> hi there
[19:24] <goodafternoon> sudo postconf -e 'home_mailbox= Maildir/' doesn't create the directory Maildir in the user's root directory, is it normal ?
[19:24] <kinghat> anyone seen this before when installing nodejs? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9kOXpQaB/image.png
[19:28] <the-noob> how can I make a host act like a proxy for traffic on a certain port ?
[19:29] <the-noob> i.e. I have a database that is restricted to a subnet and I have ssh access to the subnet
[19:29] <leftyfb> goodafternoon: It is normal since postconf doesn't create anything. It's a configuration utility for postfix
[19:29] <the-noob> but I would like to make a database connection from my computer
[19:29] <the-noob> just doing port forwarding won't work
[19:30] <leftyfb> !details | the-noob
[19:32] <the-noob> I have my computer (A), a server (B) and a database server (C) that accepts connections (3306) only from B. is there a way for my computer (A) to get :3306 traffic forwarded through B to C ?
[19:32] <leftyfb> the-noob: why?
[19:34] <Ben64> let C accept connections from A
[19:34] <the-noob> because I need to do some queries on that database directly
[19:35] <leftyfb> the-noob: run them from B
[19:35] <leftyfb> or login to C from A
[19:35] <leftyfb> and run from A
[19:36] <leftyfb> There's really no point in only allowing traffic from B if you are going to poke a hole somewhere to allow the same thing from A
[19:37] <the-noob> I was hoping there's some SSH trickery allowing something similar to `-L 3306:localhost:3306 B`
[19:38] <the-noob> but that says `-L 3306:forward_to_A:3306` :)
[20:03] <sweb> hello i need to know what's problem on my bridge network.
[20:03] <sweb> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JzGbNbWynW/
[20:03] <sweb> On host ubuntu 16.04 virtmanager show bridge network.
[20:03] <sweb> But 18.04 bridge dosnt exist
[20:03] <sweb> how can i convert my old network config to netplan for using kvm bridge
[20:35] <smellsLikeGoatSp> hi there, I was playing around with /dev/mapper and mounting points for a lvm2 encrypted partion, my previous internal ssd, and now I notice the boot time has considerably slowed down. any take?
[20:35] <smellsLikeGoatSp> I am running 18.04. on a Samsung 860 EVO 1TB
[21:04] <uio> Hello! Could someone help me to see which processor is better?
[21:05] <teward> 'better' is a matter of opinion
[21:05] <uio> teward: For specs :)
[21:07] <teward> if you just want the specs, isn't looking up the specific processors you're looking at the simpler approach?  Because that's what we'd do anyways to give you the informatino you seek...
[21:07] <uio> teward: I tried, but to be honest, I don't understand the output!
[21:08] <uio> teward: But otherwise it would be simpler, yes.
[21:08] <uio> teward: Here is one output of lscpu : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SZZFGkyXc8/
[21:10] <uio> teward: and here is the machine I am comparing it to : Thinkpad X61 7674, Core Duo T7100 2GHz. Here is a link to the machine description : http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X61
[21:11] <teward> uio: that's not informative enough because that's like 10 separate processors for comparison purposes.
[21:11] <teward> uio: anything is going to beat that Atom processor though
[21:12] <uio> teward: It's the first one in the list.
[21:12] <uio> teward: The T7100
[21:12] <uio> teward: Atom one is bad,
[21:12] <uio> teward: ?
[21:12] <teward> uio: well to be fair
[21:12] <teward> they're both... meh
[21:13] <uio> teward: But which is slower?
[21:13] <teward> uio: https://ark.intel.com/compare/29759,58917 is your comparisons chart.
[21:13] <uio> teward: I don't get it...
[21:13] <teward> uio: look for 'base frequency'
[21:13] <teward> the extra 0.06 GHz isn't going to be much of a difference between the two
[21:13] <teward> the Atom is 'newer' the Core Duo is Discontinued
[21:14] <teward> as to which is 'better' or 'worse' depends on your application and use case for the system
[21:14] <uio> teward: I don't know, I find the Atom really slow on Youtube.
[21:14] <uio> teward: Would the Core Duo be better?
[21:15] <uio> teward: Does the cache change anything?
[21:16] <uio> teward: I see that the Core Duo has more cache....
[21:17] <uio> teward: The Atom machine only has 1Gb of RAM, while the X61 has 4Gb. Part of me thinks that this might affect things, but the Atom machine rarely maxes out on RAM, but rather on CPU. Anyway, maybe this is too off topic?
[21:20] <teward> uio: yeah it's a bit offtopic here, because as I said "better" is a matter of opinion and other factors
[21:21] <coconut> uio: this is a type of question for ##hardware
[21:21] <teward> ^ that
[21:22] <uio> coconut: Does ubunu-offtopic still exist?
[21:22] <coconut> yes it does
[21:32] <soft_cement> Has anyone else experienced weirdness with the lock screen on the latest non-LTS desktop release? I just installed Ubuntu yesterday and I've been having this ever since. What happens is...
[21:33] <leftyfb> !enter | soft_cement
[21:33] <soft_cement> ...I'll see the Gnome lock screen, but I'll also see the dock on the left hand side of the screen. That happens pretty consistently. Today after resuming from suspend, instead of a lock screen, I got a really strange version of my desktop that I could kind of interact with, but not really. Doing Ctrl+Alt+F1 and then logging back in got me to my desktop.
[21:34] <soft_cement> leftyfb: sir yes sir o7
[21:34]  * soft_cement clicks heels
[21:34] <leftyfb> soft_cement: don't
[21:35]  * soft_cement would not hesitate to disobey the mighty users of freenode
[21:35] <soft_cement> er
[21:35] <soft_cement> obey*
[21:36] <hggdh> soft_cement: there was a known issue with lock screen. I do not know if it has been corrected already. There *is* a bug on it as well, but I do not have the bug # handy
[21:37] <soft_cement> hggdh: I'll see if I can find it. I guess I could comment on the bug and give my experiences
[21:38] <hggdh> soft_cement: at least add yourself as affected, yes. Thank you.
[21:39] <leftyfb> soft_cement: there's also no reason to act condescending to the people willing to help you out. Lose the attitude
[21:40] <soft_cement> yes sir
[21:41] <soft_cement> hggdh: I got about 1200 results when I search for "lock screen" in Ubuntu bugs. I'm going through them one by one and I don't see anything relevant yet. Any hints for using the search...?
[21:42] <soft_cement> Oh hey, I think I actually found it, never mind.
[21:45] <uio> Any reason why update-initramfs shows up when I just want to install a package?
[21:46] <uio> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-139-generic
[21:46] <uio> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-138-generic
[21:46] <uio> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-134-generic
[21:46] <uio> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-127-generic
[21:46] <uio> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-124-generic
[21:48] <ntd> that package might provide functionality that can come in handy during boot?
[21:48] <leftyfb> uio: because the package you are updating includes some drivers or something that should be included in your initrd for use at boot
[21:48] <ntd> no
[21:48] <ntd> "Q conspiracy"
[21:48] <ntd> :P
[21:48] <leftyfb> ntd: don't
[21:49] <uio> ??
[21:50] <SlidingHorn> uio: for multiple lines, you need to use a pastebin so the bot doesn't time you out for flooding
[21:50] <uio> I tried to install youtube-viewer and mplayer...
[21:50] <uio> SlidingHorn: Yeah I thought that was funny, but it makes sense...
[21:51] <uio> Should  I be worried about these changes? It is taking a long time!
[21:53] <uio> Gzip is using all the CPU in top.
[21:54] <ryuo> uio: anything triggering an initramfs rebuild will do that. to reduce it, consider removing kernels you're not using.
[21:55] <uio> ryuo: This is the first time this has happened...
[21:55] <me1t> someday ubuntu will not fill the disk with kernels
[21:55] <ryuo> unlikely. it's by design.
[21:56] <ryuo> uio: maybe so, but it can be trigger by any package transaction.
[21:56] <ryuo> triggered*
[21:56] <ntd> comes in handy when they release broken kernels
[21:56] <uio> ryuo: So no reason to worry?
[21:56] <ntd> anyone remember that spectre fixup which wouldn't boot on < sandy?
[21:56] <ryuo> uio: other than wasting time, it's a normal design function.
[21:56] <ntd> > sandy even
[21:57] <ryuo> uio: you can reduce the cost of these by removing old kernels.
[21:57] <ryuo> iirc, it may be enough to do: apt autoremove --purge
[21:57] <ryuo> though depends how your APT is configured i believe.
[22:01] <Sven_vB> I'm trying to boot the bionic live session on my PC. on the notebook it works, next thing after text mode messages is a black screen and then the graphical desktop. on the PC instead, I was greeted with a graphical login screen, and `systemctl status gdm3` reports "gdm-autologin][2643]: gkr-pam: no password is available for user". so I restarted gdm3 but now all I see is probably a graphics glitch: three dark red bars with middle red
[22:01] <Sven_vB> bars in betweeen, and the dark bars have a repeating white pattern resembling a chinese lantern. any ideas?
[22:02] <ryuo> Sven_vB: sounds like you found your new flashlight. :)
[22:02] <Sven_vB> the latest `systemctl status gdm3` messages are "Child process -2661 was already dead.¶ Child process 2657 was already dead.¶ Unable to kill session worker process"
[22:03] <Sven_vB> ryuo, :D all I see +on the screen+
[22:03] <uio> ryuo: I recomment youtube-viewer anyway!
[22:05] <Sven_vB> when I stop gdm3, the pattern stays on the screen. shouldn't it return to a text console?
[22:42] <olabaz> hi, I am confused about the reading of %CPU when I run top. I have program that is 600 %CPU does that mean it is using 6 cores?
[22:48] <AsFelix> olabaz, yeah, exactly, you're using 6 cores
[22:48] <olabaz> AsFelix: how is this possible if I didn't parallelize my program?
[22:54] <EriC^^> olabaz: maybe it is multi threaded?
[22:56] <olabaz> EriC^^: I haven't done anything special to the program. Perhaps one of the libraries I'm using is multithreaded?
[22:59] <EriC^^> which program is it?
[22:59] <EriC^^> olabaz: try 'ldd /path/to/program | grep thread'
[23:00] <olabaz> EriC^^: it's something I wrote myself
[23:03] <olabaz> EriC^^: this shows up in that command:  libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007fd7a1bf7000)
[23:03] <EriC^^> aha then it's using pthread which is for multi-threading
[23:03] <deadrom> heya
[23:04] <olabaz> hmm ok
[23:04] <olabaz> thanks i'll try to track down which is doing it then
[23:05] <EriC^^> olabaz: ok, np
[23:05] <deadrom> fresh 18.04.1 install on thinkpad t530 with nvidia GF108M [NVS 5400M]  and intel CPU graphics. should I just install nvidia binary or Prime, too? (nouveau has come a long way but I need more video and 3d punch)
[23:06] <deadrom> or bumblebee rather? I'm all "?"
[23:09] <Bashing-om> deadrom: For gamming (performance) you do want the proprietary driver . and BumbleBee is depreciated in favor of nvidia-prime .
[23:32] <ikatamoonshots> deadrom, used the prop driver few times, you install them by going to init 1 root , stopping desktop env
[23:32] <deadrom> Bashing-om: thanks
[23:33] <deadrom> ikatamoonshots: never had to do that. only to figure which is the latest driver for this chip.
[23:35] <Bashing-om> deadrom: Pastebin - lspci -k|grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' - and I see what Nvidia recommends for the driver .
[23:35] <ikatamoonshots> nvidia has a search tool https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/135161/en-us
[23:35] <ikatamoonshots> found this , maybe thats correct? https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/135161/en-us
[23:36] <ikatamoonshots> searched geforce 108m - theres a 100m series, so that was my best guess
[23:37] <ikatamoonshots> on each drives page you have a tab "supported products"
[23:42] <Sven_vB> switching to openbox fixed the graphics glitch. now I have two machines running Ubuntu bionic, one (live) as a live session and one (installed) from hard disk. Both can avahi-resolve-host-name mDNS hostnames, but only live can ping them. what could be the problem? https://paste.debian.net/hidden/2780a841/
[23:43] <Sven_vB> the last grep command is a lie, seems I miscopied it. it's actually egrep 'Link|Scope|Multi'
[23:45] <Sven_vB> correct diff -> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/6c45e527/
[23:54] <maetthew> Is there anyway to save session (open apps and position) on a reboot? I'm on Budge 18.04
[23:55] <deadrom> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kCzNny2rd8/
[23:55] <R-Z> hey, tried to do an ubuntu distro update 16.04 to 16.04 and got a boot error. "gave up waiting for suspend/resume device /dev/sda2: clean" followed to some file and block numbers
[23:57] <deadrom> driver search at nv reveals 390.87 is latest. seems nvidia has some love for legacy notebooks
[23:57]  * deadrom likes his thinkpad