[05:07] <chcknrub> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g099Qb8r_ZI
 I must be blind where is the option to disable single click on dolphin.
[06:32] <jaafar> Anyone having issues with the fans running max after suspend on 18.10?
[07:29] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:30] <lordievader> jaafar: What does `sensors` say about the temperatures?
[07:55] <jaafar> lordievader: hey thanks for responding. I've rebooted in the meantime (always clears it up) but let's see what I get right now with the fans back to normal
[07:56] <jaafar> cores range from 39C to 42C
[07:56] <jaafar> I feel like that was the case with the high fans as well but I can't swear to it
[07:59] <lordievader> Does it still happen after the reboot?
 Hi all . Got problem still. Is here in boot menu anything what's blocking booting kubuntu from external harddrive ?
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/VLpziueL/file_11494.jpg
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/hOJSf4JH/file_11495.jpg
 Turning on uefi don't allow me to boot from harddrive and damage windows on C so I can't boot pc at all
 I dont want to turn on uefi cuz I am scared I wont be able to  boot windows again
[08:17] <TheBassMan> do you have windoz on a separate drive ? always a good  move
[08:18] <jaafar> lordievader: it happens after the first suspend, pretty consistently
[08:18] <jaafar> so... not directly after reboot, but after the first suspend after reboot
[08:19] <jaafar> It was not happening in 18.04, just started after the upgrade
[08:19] <jaafar> Also at the same time my networkmanager gets very strange... tries to connect to networks that aren't there, shows wifi as disabled (it is enabled), etc.
[08:19] <jaafar> though this may be an unrelated problem
[08:32] <lordievader> Hmm, I had a laptop once with a similar issue years ago. Was never able to fix it.
 @TheBassMan, Bootable pendrive/cd ? Yes
[09:05] <TheBassMan> Virus288- pull the power on the windows drive and then boot also customised boot delete ? what is that ?
 @TheBassMan, I just saying what hp support and some other people told me
 That changing legacy on uefi damage windows and don't allow to boot it
[09:41] <diogenes_> Virus288, what's the issue?
[09:49] <TheBassMan> virus288, windows will not boot in legacy. diogenes, seems he cannt boot from usb
 @TheBassMan, I got harddrive ( external harddrive ) with kubuntu on it . I boot kubuntu from it every day on my main pc and it's working perfect . Problem started when I moved it to another pc
 HP elitebook 840 g1 . It got legacy boot with windows 10 on it with 'safe boot' disabled
 I can't boot my harddrive ( kubuntu from external harddrive )
 On its internal harddrive there is win 10 .
[09:51] <diogenes_> Virus288, if there is windows 10 then most likely it's UEFI
 It's not
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/dwaOI0P3/file_11496.jpg
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/fyRyEfe5/file_11495.jpg
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/bUfgg8QJ/file_11494.jpg
[09:52] <diogenes_> Virus288, do you even get to the boot option menu? do you see you HDD listed there?
 I see it there
 I hope it
 But pc boot windows
 Same when I changed priority of boot . I set external harddrive as first boot
 Still open windows
[09:53] <diogenes_> and the PC you always run kubuntu, is it UEFi?
 My main pc is legacy+uefi
 Here it's only legacy
 I can't change to uefi
 I did install kubuntu on legacy+uefi
[09:54] <diogenes_> what's you partition scheme of the HDD? gpt or mbr?
 Mbr
[09:58] <diogenes_> and can you run: inxi -Fx | hc termbin.com 9999
[09:58] <diogenes_> sorry
[09:58] <diogenes_> wrog
[09:58] <diogenes_>  inxi -Fx | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:58] <diogenes_> this one ^^^
 whats that ?
 I am new to al of this
 Trying to learn some :D
[10:00] <diogenes_> that will show your sysinfo
[10:00] <diogenes_> you gonna get a link
[10:00] <diogenes_> that you share here
 1 small lil thing
 What should I do xd?
[10:03] <diogenes_> so i can see your system setup like partitions and all the things
 I wrote </>  inxi -Fx | nc termbin.com 9999 in cmd
 IT says I dont have acces
[10:05] <diogenes_> hehe i thought you are on kubuntu now?
 I cant boot it
 I got 6h of free timem
[10:06] <diogenes_> you can boot it on another pc
 I booted windows since I canoot boot kubuntu and I hope some1 can help me\
 @diogenes_, yes . BUt right now I dont any with me
[10:06] <diogenes_> ok ok i see, so what happens when you swich uefi mode in bios?
 I didnt do it yet in this laptop and I dont want to do it . I read many people's comments about hp that this pc after changing on uefi wont allow to boot windows again
 Even after changing boot again to legacy
[10:08] <diogenes_> everything can happen with windows
 I guess . i woudnt even care about this windows if it would be my pc
 But since its my friend pc which I did borrow for a few days , I dont want to damage it or delete his files
[10:09] <diogenes_> then there's really nothing you can do
[10:09] <diogenes_> unfortunately
 :/
 Thx anyway
[10:10] <diogenes_> np
 Or....
 When I go home and install kubuntu again BUT in rufus I would set legacy?
 I had legacy+uefi
 If I would set ONLY legacy. ANy way to make it bootable?
[10:10] <diogenes_> yep try legacy only
[10:11] <diogenes_> rufus will do the rest
 thx
[10:12] <diogenes_> yw
 Any possilibty to make full backup?
[10:13] <diogenes_> there is pleny of tools
 I got steam installed + chrome + 2 games nd 10 gb of files
[10:13] <diogenes_> for backup
[10:13] <diogenes_> one quick that comes to mind is dejadup
 But I want to backup this kubuntu and resotre it on legacy
 Will ur app work?
[10:14] <diogenes_> i haven't testen it, i'm on a slightly different distro so my distro has it's own backup utility
 What a u using?
 I dont like ubuntu = laggy 4 me , mint = nahhh , elementary..... xd
 Looking 4 something like windows so kubuntu was best 4 me
[10:16] <diogenes_> Virus28, i use MX Linux
 looks nice
[11:06] <jubo2> Hello and big thanks for the awesome desktop OS
[11:07] <jubo2> I got a need. I need to encrypt a directory in such a way that #1 if the HDD gets stolen no-one else can access the files there and #2 adding files to the directory is easy and straightforward
[11:07] <jubo2> What should I use? I'm on Kubuntu 18.04.1
[11:32] <jubo2> Prlly this: https://linuxconfig.org/create-encrypted-folders-with-plasma-vault
[12:36] <lordievader> If you're adventurous you want to go with LUKS, full-disk encryption.
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[15:28] <alekksander> BluesKaj: hi. i figured out the problem i was asking You about yesterday
[15:29] <alekksander> turns out it wasn't my fault, but a bug. i've changed wifi password to be stored as not encrypted and wifi doesn't turn on and off and on again at system start
[17:04] <rainehdaze> I've been trying to get wifi to work with a new adapter, and after getting the drivers installed for it things are... almost working. But whenever I try to connect through the gui, it just sticks on "configuring interface" then nothing happens. Via command line and "error: connection activation failed: (53) the wi-fi network could not be found." and similar
 How do I turn off single click mode for dolphin.
[19:18] <Piraty> kubuntu is official spin of ubuntu?
[19:19] <Piraty> so 18.04 is the same package config than regular ubuntu? (except -unity +plasma obviously)
 yes
[19:19] <Piraty> thanks Linuxophil
[19:22] <Piraty> I am an advanced linux user, but i never used ubuntu before. does it have graphical integration for package updates? something that a not-so-experienced-linux-user might understand (i think of some notify widget that says: "you can update N packages" or similar)
[19:26] <Merc>  yup
[19:26] <Piraty> also kubuntu?
[19:26] <Merc> default kde desktop has update notification thing
[19:26] <Merc> yup
[19:27] <Piraty> very well then, kubuntu it will be on the newlaptop for the lady on christmas
[19:27] <Merc> :-)
[19:27] <Piraty> (but just because for some reason my favourite distro refused to boot) ;)
[19:28] <Merc> heh that happened to me a few years ago, i had a new PC and fedora refused to boot to installer
[19:28] <Merc> so i started using ubuntu
[19:29] <Merc> i still prefer rpm/dnf to ubuntu tools, but i got used to them
[19:29] <Piraty> where can i find ubuntu/kubuntu sources? they're not highlighted on both webpages
[19:29] <Piraty> at least not on the front
[19:29] <Merc> no idea
[19:31] <BluesKaj> package sources?
[19:31] <Piraty> not sources of packages, sources of package makefiles (dunno how it's called in debian's terms)
[19:32] <Piraty> build recipies
[19:32] <Piraty> to find out what flags + patches are used etc
[19:33] <Merc> the package sources
[19:34] <Piraty> wouldn't that be tarballs of each packaged project?
[19:35] <Merc> yeah but the build instructions are in there too
[19:35] <Piraty> ah right, that's how debian does it
[19:36] <Piraty> according to sources on the net, hardware support on 18.04 is limited, 18.10 works better. can i have 18.04 installed and add a 4.19 kernel still?
[19:38] <Merc> you can do anything you like, but distributions work best when you stick to distribution packages.  if you go outside that, only your skill in systems administration can save you if something goes wrong
[19:39] <Merc> do you feel lucky?
[19:41] <Piraty> i do that all the time on my own machines, don't worry about me
[19:42] <Merc> alright then, you know very well a linux system is a kernel +GNU utils, you can install any kernel you like :)
[19:43] <Piraty> ubuntu doesn't stack kernels i guess but only keep latest by default kernel package?
[19:43] <Piraty> Merc: Gnu utils not neccesarily... ;)
[20:20] <valorie> Piraty: why not write a live USB and try it out on the new laptop?
[20:21] <valorie> you can try both the LTS and 18.10 and see which works the best
[20:21] <Piraty> i did already, 18.04 has elemtary issue
[20:21]  * valorie is on 18.10 and very happy with it
[20:21] <Piraty> yeah i want to renfore usage of lts
[20:21] <Piraty> but currently doesn't work nice
[20:21] <valorie> that's too bad
[20:21] <Piraty> and i def don't want to reinstall in 3month or whenever 18-lts gets 4.19 kernel
[20:22] <valorie> did you try adding backports?
[20:22] <valorie> !backports
[20:22] <Piraty> personally, i live on the edge using Void Linux with many custom packages, but that is not what the lady would like
[20:23] <valorie> that page is slightly dated but still accurage
[20:23] <valorie> accurate
[20:23] <valorie> I've been using backports for years and have not once had a problem
[20:23] <Piraty> are kernels backported?
[20:24] <Piraty> so i can use the new one?
[20:24] <valorie> that I don't know
[20:24] <valorie> there is a edgers PPA or so
[20:24] <Piraty> meh
[20:25] <Piraty> ;)
[20:25] <valorie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[20:25] <valorie> how did I forget this
[20:25] <valorie> completely supported, not a ppa
[20:25] <Piraty> staying on 18.10 and dropping to an lts (maybe it next lts supersedes current 18.10?) is possible? that would technically be no downgrade
[20:26] <valorie> well, I personally can't stand outdated software so I never stay on LTS
[20:26] <valorie> but I get why people do that
[20:26] <valorie> 18.10 has been great for me
[20:26] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.14.4 on Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) powered by Linux 4.18.0-12-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 1499-1500/3800 MHz, RAM: 8932/32118 MB, Storage: 380/1144 GB, 226 procs, 13.5h up
[20:27] <Piraty> woot 4.15 ??
[20:27] <Piraty> 32g yikes
[20:27] <valorie> yeah, it's a big box
[20:27] <valorie> lol
[20:28] <valorie> very nice System 76 laptop
[20:28] <valorie> 4.15 what?
[20:29] <valorie> I have Plasma 5.14.4 on the 4.18.0-12-generic kernel
[20:29] <bprompt> the installation of 18.x is less than 10gbs, so 32gbs is just probably about 10gbs of mp3/mp4s and a few other apps =)
[20:29] <Piraty> i can read that, i referred to the diagram on the LTS-ES
[20:29] <valorie> ok
[20:29] <bprompt> well, I use 16.04 and happy with it =P
[20:29] <valorie> bprompt: nice
[20:30] <valorie> not everyone wants the latest, which is fine
[20:30] <valorie> as long as security updates are done
[20:30] <bprompt> very stable for what I run, as far as outdate software, well the LTS is meant that it is not so much the case, I installed chrome 72 and firefox 64, about an hour ago
[20:31] <Piraty> as long as amazon advertising is not introduced again i'm fine with having an ubuntu machine in my networ
[20:32] <bprompt> valorie:    new doesn't always equate "good", simply new, often enough, but it glitches now and then, I did install 18.04, it broke a few things, fixed them, it broke some more so it was too much to bother when in 16.04 everything runs smooth
[20:32] <valorie> yup, linux is all about choice
[20:32] <valorie> it ain't religion
[20:33] <bprompt> and I run many KDE apps, not Kwin though, I run LXQT, very light and good window manager, so plasma is not an issue, but I do run quite a bit kde apps
[20:33] <valorie> me too
[20:33] <bprompt> kde as well as QT apps
[20:34] <valorie> I'm a big fan of Falkon, the new browser
[20:34] <valorie> I have to fall back to chrome for a few genealogy plugins that are available for it only
[20:34] <valorie> other than that it Just Works
[20:34] <Piraty> why is there no i3buntu?
[20:35] <valorie> i3buntu?
[20:35] <Piraty> ;)
[20:35] <bprompt> new browser?  chrome no good? heheh, for file manager I use mostly either Krusader or Konqueror, Konqueror has lots of tabs and view-splits I use, since I often open 5 or so directories at once
[20:35] <valorie> konqueror used to be my favorite
[20:35] <valorie> it got to be not so good as a browser
[20:35] <valorie> and now dolphin is awesome for files
[20:36] <bprompt> correction, I don't use Konqueror as a webbrowser, but as a file manager, yes, it has a filemanager profile
[20:36] <valorie> rekonq died....
[20:36] <valorie> right, it used to be my most-used app --- after Konversation
[20:36] <bprompt> as a file manager is pretty good, you can not just do multitabs but also multi-views, horizontal and vertical, and do that quite a bit, I open 3 or 5 directories at once
[20:37] <valorie> haven't tried it recently
[20:37] <valorie> oh my, not even installed
[20:38] <Piraty> not far away and systemd will ship a webbrowser, don't worry
[20:38] <valorie> lol
[20:39] <valorie> give lennert credit for sticking around to help fix systemd
[20:39] <bprompt> Piraty:   right, just another Chromium fork =P, might as well get chrome or chromium
[20:40] <Piraty> lol valorie
[20:41] <Piraty> "fix systemd" as in merge all the things that could possibly be merged (and also those that shouldn't)?
[20:46] <valorie> no judgements from me -- that is all fought in areas I'm not involved with
[20:46] <valorie> by the time the changes are accepted into Debian they seem to work
[21:31] <Merc> valorie: when it is time to upgrade from 18.10, a system can be upgraded using apt, right?
[21:31] <valorie> yes
[21:31] <Merc> it'ls not like i will have to reinstall my OS or anything
[21:31] <Merc> ok
[21:31] <valorie> exactly
[21:31] <valorie> however, it's good practice to make sure that your backups are recent and complete
[21:31] <Merc> someone earlier today said to me "i dont like 18.10 cuz it means you have to update every 6 months"
[21:31] <valorie> pfff
[21:31] <Merc> but it's like, so what, you just run a command
[21:31] <Merc> BIG DEAL
[21:31] <valorie> exactly
[21:32] <valorie> it does mean rebooting
[21:32] <Merc> but i am gonna check out this backports
[21:32] <Merc> i didnt know about backports
[21:32] <Merc> yeah rebooting is no problem
[21:33] <Merc> soooo ah
[21:34] <Merc> LTS enablement gets you a newer kernel?
[21:34] <Merc> does 18.10 have newer enablement kernel?
[21:34] <valorie> I have 4.18.0-12-generic right now
[21:35] <valorie> is that newer? I don't know
[21:35] <valorie> works for me
[21:36] <Merc> merc@thinkpad:~$ uname -a
[21:36] <Merc> Linux thinkpad 4.18.0-12-generic #13-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 14 15:17:05 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:37] <Merc> hmm
[21:38] <valorie> if you have some special needs, #ubuntu-kernel is a helpful channel
[21:39] <valorie> probably a bit quiet this time of year; I notice a lot of the full-timers are off on holiday about now
[21:40] <Merc> nah i was just curiouys
[21:40] <Merc> s/curiouys/curious
[21:40] <Merc> i have no need for a newer kernel
[21:46] <Merc> ooooh im installing backports KDE!
[21:46] <Merc> i am adventurous!
[21:46] <Merc> i might die :-/
[21:50] <valorie> lol
[21:50] <valorie> there is always PPA-purge
[21:50] <valorie> !ppa-purge
[21:51] <valorie> I've used it and it works
[21:51] <valorie> :-)
[21:58] <Merc> it doesnt matter, if my KDE breaks i will just install windows 10
[22:01] <valorie> haha
[22:01] <valorie> I have a win10 VM for some genealogy apps I can't get to run properly in wine
[22:02] <valorie> don't use it very often though
[22:04] <Merc> i was kidding. i have a win10 machine next to me for games
[22:04] <Merc> but i like working in linux desktop, so i bought an old thinkpad for desktop use
[22:05] <Merc> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KjhZSqTXCsANvmk6tuEOfikiHp3Z38BE/view?usp=sharing
[22:05] <Merc> best of both worlds!
[22:05] <valorie> it ain't religion -- it is tools!
[22:05] <Merc> yup...right tools for the right job
[22:08] <Merc> my only concern is that some config file has been changed and my desktop will suck
[22:08] <Merc> ok brb!
[22:11] <Merc> welp, nothing blew up
[23:12] <coderphive> anybody here use an Anne Pro 2>
[23:12] <bprompt> not I