[05:34] <deepfriedbrain> hi! my thinkpad t430s doesn't hibernate with ubuntu studio 18.10, when I try to shut it.
[05:35] <Eickmeyer> deepfriedbrain: Hibernation is disabled by default in Ubuntu and all flavors due to UEFI SecureBoot requirements.
[05:36] <deepfriedbrain> ah, okay! thank you! is there a workaround?
[05:36] <Eickmeyer> Are you dual-booting?
[05:36] <deepfriedbrain> no
[05:37] <Eickmeyer> Then yes. Disable SecureBoot in your BIOS and you should be good to go, but there might be some other steps depending on your computer.
[05:38] <deepfriedbrain> okay, i first will have to try that. many thanks!
[05:38] <Eickmeyer> deepfriedbrain: Further steps here if necessary: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/10/enable-hibernate-ubuntu-17-10/ Granted it's a year old, but should still work.
[06:05] <deepfriedbrain> Eickmeyer: so, hibernation does work, but i can't seem to get it working with my lid closed, i have to do it manually.
[06:07] <Eickmeyer> deepfriedbrain: That's a known limitation of the xfce desktop, I'm afraid.
[06:08] <Eickmeyer> deepfriedbrain: This might help you, but I'm not 100% positive on that: https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager/faq
[06:09] <Eickmeyer> Do try the power settings though: https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager/preferences
[06:10] <Eickmeyer> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[06:27] <deepfriedbrain> Eickmeyer: sorry, i logged off again. hibernation works now when i close the lid, but the screen stays black when i reopen it. but this seems to be an issue with the kernel, perhaps. https://askubuntu.com/questions/996217/black-screen-after-hibernation so i'll wait...
[16:58] <Eickmeyer> if deepfriedbrain comes back, it's an xfce issue, workaround is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1259339/comments/31
[19:17] <windowsrefund> hello
[19:18] <windowsrefund> I'm under the impression that 18.10's Ubuntu Studio Controls is meant to replace the use of qjackctl. That said, I've configured USC accordingly but I see no evidence that jack is running. I also do not see a2jmidid running.
[19:20] <Eickmeyer> windowsrefund: If you launch qjackctl or patchage, you'll find the evidence that Jack is running.
[19:20] <windowsrefund> but USC is touted as a replacement
[19:22] <Eickmeyer> That's correct, but it has no integrated patchbay, which is where qjackctl or patchage comes in. USC configures Jack in a way that qjackctl cannot.
[19:22] <windowsrefund> something about USC is clearly not working. I suggest this since "Bridge ALSA to jack MIDI (turn on a2jmidid)" is checked. However, I don't see any a2jmidid process running.
[19:22] <Eickmeyer> windowsrefund: open Patchage, you'll see that the midi bridge is running.
[19:24] <windowsrefund> hmmm
[19:24] <windowsrefund> I don't even have that installed
[19:24] <Eickmeyer> Are you using Ubuntu Studio or did you install Ubuntu Studio Controls on top of something else?
[19:25] <windowsrefund> nope, native US
[19:25] <Eickmeyer> I ask because Patchage is installed by default.
[19:25] <Eickmeyer> Okay, easy fix then, install Patchage.
[19:25] <windowsrefund> ok, I installed patchage
[19:25] <Eickmeyer> Okay, launch it.
[19:26] <windowsrefund> ok, running it
[19:26] <windowsrefund> I guess it's working
[19:26] <windowsrefund> yea
[19:26] <Eickmeyer> Ubuntu Studio Controls is made to be "set and forget" with the majority of the routing and work being done with other applications such as Ardour, qjackctl, and Patchage. It doesn't need to be running for Jack to run.
[19:26] <windowsrefund> a2j
[19:27] <windowsrefund> it's still very confusing. I started asking these questions after firing up Ardour and seeing it complain that it could not connect to JACK
[19:27] <Eickmeyer> I've never had that issue and I've used Ardour extensively.
[19:28] <windowsrefund> trying again now that Patchage is running
[19:28] <Eickmeyer> Patchage also doesn't need to be running, but I like it as a handy graphical way to do routing.
[19:28] <Eickmeyer> ymmv
[19:28] <windowsrefund> ok that worked
[19:28] <windowsrefund> but patchage seems ....... buggy
[19:29] <Eickmeyer> Patchage is out of active development. We're working on a replacement, but that might take a couple releases.
[19:29] <windowsrefund> now that Ardour is running, the [ardour], [system], and a few other sections within Patchage are kinda "dancing" around
[19:29] <windowsrefund> like, they are wobbling :)
[19:29] <Eickmeyer> Namely working on brininging in Catia from KXStudio, I'm actively working with the developer on that.
[19:30] <windowsrefund> ok, I really don't want to use Patchage then
[19:30]  * windowsrefund uninstalls
[19:30] <Eickmeyer> You can file a bug report against patchage, but it will fall against deaf ears since it's not actively developed.
[19:30] <windowsrefund> wouldn't carla be the move?
[19:30] <windowsrefund> I mean carla does everything
[19:30] <Eickmeyer> Also working on that.
[19:30] <windowsrefund> I see
[19:30] <Eickmeyer> I have it to the point where it will run, but the wine bridges won't work. Very much work in progress, but I'm working with upstream on that.
[19:31] <windowsrefund> wine?
[19:31] <windowsrefund> like that windoze emulator thing?
[19:31] <Eickmeyer> The wine stands for "Wine Is Not An Emulator", it just adds a compatibility layer.
[19:32] <Eickmeyer> The wine bridges in Carla allow one to use Windows VST plugins on Linux.
[19:32] <windowsrefund> I have to believe that's the last thing that's needed :)
[19:32] <windowsrefund> but I'm going off topic
[19:32] <Eickmeyer> You wouldn't believe the demand for it.
[19:32] <windowsrefund> well yea
[19:32] <windowsrefund> sadly
[19:33] <Eickmeyer> But yes, there's a lot that is work-in-progress. Ubuntu Studio, as a flavor, almost died, so there's a lot that we're working on in terms of innovation and rennovation.
[19:34] <Eickmeyer> Ubuntu Studio Controls was a step in that direction. Next is bringing the benefits of Ubuntu Studio to all of the Ubuntu flavors so that one can work in their desktop environment of choice.
[19:34] <Eickmeyer> But yes, getting off topic.
[19:34] <Eickmeyer> Glad things are working now.
[19:35] <windowsrefund> I'm going to log back into xfce4 to see if I can just fire up Ardour this time
[19:35] <windowsrefund> brb
[19:36] <Eickmeyer> FYI, Ardour doesn't need Jack, and the developers of Ardour discourage it unless you absolutely need to route between programs.
[19:39] <windowsrefund> yea, I may look into just using ALSA at some point
[19:39] <windowsrefund> just trying to get to a place where I understand my workflow well enough to go about exploring things like that
[19:39] <windowsrefund> I'm not there yet
[20:20] <Eickmeyer> windowsrefund: Completely understandable.