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[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
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[15:38] <Piraty> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-upgrading-ubuntu-desktop#1
[15:38] <Piraty> i cannot find that in kubuntu
[15:39] <Piraty> ah it's the Muon, yes?
[15:40] <Piraty> (i am on 18.04) i switched the version channel to "new version" already, but update to 18.10 is not offered
[15:43] <BluesKaj> kubuntu use the KDE/Plasma Desktop. it's not the same as the Ubuntu default desktop called Gnome
[15:46] <Piraty> i know
[15:47] <Piraty> upgrade instructions advise to use "update-manager -c", which is not present here
[15:49] <BluesKaj> open a terminal, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[15:50] <Piraty> ok, it downloads nothing from ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic ...
[15:50] <Piraty> should i sed 's/bionic/<??>' in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> what exactly are you trying to do?
[15:51] <Piraty> upgrade from 18.04 to 18.10
[15:52] <BluesKaj> sudo do-release-upgrade, but turn the LTS only flag off in the discover/muon package manager first
[15:52] <Piraty> that i did, let's see
[15:53] <hggdh> Piraty: do you understand that 18.10 is only suported for 9 months? And that you will need to upgrade to 19.04 *and* 19.10 to get to the next LTS (20.04)?
[15:54] <Piraty> yes
[15:54] <Piraty> but it is neccesary now, current 18.04 kernel (4.15) does not recognize the touchpad correctly and i need to hand t his laptop over very soon (christmas, yeah!)
[15:57] <Piraty> hggdh: when 18.10 ends support, i can still do-release-upgrade, no?
[15:57] <Piraty> to jump on whatever is new then?
[15:58] <hggdh> Piraty: yes, and no. You can upgrade from 18.10 to 19.04 *only*
[16:04] <Piraty> that is fine, since i want to on an lts channel here, but cannot right now
[16:04] <Piraty> (assuming xx.04 is ubuntu-lts always)
[16:05] <Piraty> will 19.04 be available when 18.10 is eol?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> 19.04 will be available in April , that's what 19.04 means , yr and month
[16:06] <Piraty> ah
[16:07] <Piraty> so a version is lts when ubuntu declares it to be
[16:07] <hggdh> Piraty: LTSs come every 2 years, on even years
[16:07] <Piraty> breakage is not to be anticipated i hope? otherwise it wouldn't make sense to me
[16:08] <hggdh> so it is 16.04, 18.04, and (next one is) 20.04
[16:08] <Piraty> hggdh: thanks for clarifing the version scheme
[16:10] <hggdh> there is no breakage (for a varying definition of "breakage"). upgrades from current LTS to next LTS are supported. Nothing, on the other hand, is guaranteed about the presentation layers
[16:10] <hggdh> (meaning they will stay like they were, or not)
[18:16] <Piraty> ok, thanks hggdh
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[23:45] <mattfly> im on linux kubuntu 18.04 and seems like something powersaving keeps disabling my keyboard in a usb hub
[23:45] <mattfly> any idea what can it be?