[03:09] Eickmeyer: the Ardour devs do not want to spend time supporting jack. Paul doewsn't really do audio recording as he spends almost all of his time coding and I might note that Robin almost always starts Ardour with the "Dummy" back end so as not to disturb whatever desktop audio he is listening to. [03:10] Yet they have said they think jack should not be used even though it is the only way to do a number of things they just don't do because it is too hard (without jack) [03:12] The Ardour devs have stated they don't support plugins and yet sugest using plugins rather than jack !?!? [03:16] So, anyway, jack is not dead... or unnessessary either. Computer audio is not in great shape... with any OS.