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cryptodan_mobileHi tatertots00:01
tatertotshi cryptodan_mobile00:05
IniGithi00:21
IniGitI have 2 drives with Ubuntu on it and each drive has it's own Grub on purpose (I want it like that). Now the most recent grub is used and I cannot make it work to switch to the old one. I want to be able to select which one should be used whenever I want. How do I achieve that?00:23
IniGitWhich command do I need to use?00:23
IniGitI tried efibootmgr -c and recreated an entry for the old grub, but it doesent boot into it when I change the order such that it should boot first00:24
cryptodan_mobileTurn one drive off00:24
IniGitI don't want that since the pc is bound to the wall00:24
IniGitThat's much effort00:24
OerHeks2 grubs on uefi ... interesting00:24
IniGitIs there no command to tell the BIOS hey this is the grub you should use00:24
IniGityeah I want it like that00:25
cryptodan_mobileNo00:25
IniGitbut I want to be able to select which one the BIOS should use00:25
IniGitdamn00:25
IniGitare you sure?00:25
IniGitHow does the Ubuntu installer tell the BIOS that the most recent one should be used?00:25
Platonidesefibootmgr should be able to select the entry to use on boot00:25
cryptodan_mobileYou cant unless you go into the bios and tell which boot drive in the uefi menu to select00:26
IniGitok then I assume my created entry does not function correctly00:26
Platonidessome EFI firmware is quite... stubborn00:26
tatertotsyou haven't bothered to test it00:26
IniGitI logged into the old system and did efibootmgr -c00:26
Platonidesbut in theory it can choose that00:26
iosecureIniGit: So, you have two EFI system partitions?00:26
IniGitAnd put it first on the order00:26
cryptodan_mobileIniGit: go into bios and change it there in the efi boot menu00:27
IniGityes on 2 different drives00:27
iosecureDon't do that.00:27
IniGitI changed it to the old one, but it boots into the new grub00:27
iosecureThat's known to cause issues with UEFI implementations.00:27
IniGitso I assume efibootmgr -c did not create the right entry00:27
iosecureYou're the second person in here today with this exact same issue, for the exact same reason.00:28
IniGit:)00:28
IniGithow do I actually find out which partition this UUID is from? I tried sgdisk, but I couldn't find it:00:29
IniGitBoot0000* ubuntu HD(2,GPT,94cace0a-786b-42f1-8424-720b29ffa518,0xe1800,0x32000)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)00:29
IniGitthis is the working one00:29
cryptodan_mobileThe number I assume after hd(200:29
AndyChow88894cace0a-786b-42f1-8424-720b29ffa518 is the UUID. If you want to find out which drive that is, run lsblk or blkid.00:30
IniGitI found it via sudo blkid | grep fa51800:31
IniGitthis entry is the one that does not work correctly:00:31
IniGitBoot0001* Linux HD(1,GPT,b8646c21-a878-4de5-8bdc-2a69fcc6a463,0x800,0xe1000)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\grub.efi)00:31
IniGitany idea?00:32
IniGitlol00:33
IniGitefibootmgr -c actucally created an entry linking to my windows partition00:33
IniGitthat must be a bug00:33
IniGit/dev/sda1: LABEL="Wiederherstellung" UUID="288055D68055AB58" TYPE="ntfs" PARTLABEL="Basic data partition" PARTUUID="b8646c21-a878-4de5-8bdc-2a69fcc6a463"00:33
Platonidesmainly complain to the provider of your firmware...00:33
iosecureblah blah words blah don't have two ESPs on one system.00:34
IniGitwhich motherboards actually do not use Intel firmware? Is there anything with AMD firmware or so?00:34
IniGitI also could try to create the entry manually via efibootmgr -c00:35
iosecureIt's not intel or AMD. It's the motherboard manufacturer's implementation of the UEFI spec.00:36
iosecureAnd, spoiler alert, most of them suck at it.00:36
IniGitoh ok00:36
IniGitthank you00:36
IniGitI have a Gigabyte motherboard00:36
IniGita old one00:36
iosecureThey'll code the typical use cases, and ignore the edge cases. Having two ESPs is an example of an edge case that few of them handle well.00:36
iosecureBy spec, having two ESPs, even on the same disk, is legal.00:37
IniGitYeah but even IMO that doesen't make much sense00:38
IniGit:D00:38
iosecureSure, but the spec says it's legal.00:38
iosecureDoesn't mean firmware or even other OSes tolerate it.00:38
shmamTrying to install `ffmpeg` but getting that it doesn't have an installation candidate. I found it online here so I'm not sure why I can't install it on 18.04 https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/ffmpeg00:48
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OerHekspart of the universe repo, see if you have that enabled00:51
tatertotsshmam: ffmpeg is in the default repos..have you selected a local mirror and all that jazz00:51
shmamWhoops, I'm dumb. Forgot this was a fresh aws instance. Just needed an apt update00:51
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eraserpencil_i give up and I'm gonna ask for help. Trying something less noob-friendly and am installing an ubuntu server  on my laptop alongside windows. Windows 10 is now on a SATA drive while im intending for Ubuntu to be on an NVME drive. I'm tripping up at the section on where to install grub. Do i add it to MBR? Also which drive should I have it on. I've been trying different configs but nothing works.01:48
eraserpencil_I'm expecting the grub screen of Ubuntu at the press of the power button with Windows boot manager as an option. Are my expectations too high?01:49
AndyChow888eraserpencil_, best to install it on the NVME. You shouldn't have to choose the MBR, it should find it itself, and if it detects another os, the behavior should be as you stated.01:57
cryptodan_mobileIt would be nvme*p101:58
eraserpencil_it did not detech the windows partition on the sata drive02:01
badSophiai can’t install vim now?02:16
tomreynonly between 9 am and  5 pm.02:16
badSophia:(02:17
tomreynjust kidding, what, s the problem?02:17
badSophiahas no installation candidate02:17
badSophia:(02:17
tomreynwhat's the command you're running?02:18
badSophiasudo apt-get install vim02:18
eraserpencil_AndyChow888, so i do not add to mbr? do i need to turn on the bootable flag for the partition on the nvme drive?02:18
tomreynwhich ubuntu version is it? (run lsb_release -ds)02:18
badSophia:(02:18
badSophiacommand run not found :(02:19
AndyChow888eraserpencil_, when installing ubuntu server on the nvme, it should handle it automatically.02:19
badSophiatomaw: what’s wrong?02:19
AndyChow888badSophia, if you do "sudo apt update", does it work?02:20
badSophiai will try it02:20
tomreynbadSophia: run this: sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999902:23
badSophiaAndyChow888: :(02:27
badSophiai did it without internet connection02:27
badSophiabut after connecting internet i did it :)02:27
AndyChow888Ok. So now it should work.02:27
badSophiathanks AndyChow888 and tomreyn02:27
tomreynyeay :)02:29
tomreynbadSophia: so vim installed fine, too?02:30
badSophiatomreyn: yeah i installed it after update02:30
badSophia:)02:30
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eraserpencil_andychow888, i know you said the installer will take care of it, but it's not happening02:31
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iosecureeraserpencil_: You're running Windows 10. That means you don't have an MBR.02:39
iosecureWell, technically you do, but... That's a deeper discussion.02:39
iosecureThe point is that you'll be using UEFI to boot Ubuntu.02:39
eraserpencil_yea I had to turn on "allow legacy ROM" in the bios to get a installer working on my display02:42
iosecureThat means you're mixing boot modes. That's NOT going to go well.02:42
eraserpencil_but I chose installing the grub in nvme drive.02:42
eraserpencil_it is not going well. I can confirm that02:42
iosecureYeah, legacy BIOS means it's trying to write bootcode to the post-MBR gap, which isn't usable in GPT, which is what UEFI uses.02:43
iosecureThe required partition to support BIOS booting from GPT doesn't exist. You need to use UEFI.02:43
eraserpencil_So...i am using UEFI, but have "allow legacy ROMs" enabled...otherwise I cant see the cli02:44
iosecureYou're in the installer, right?02:44
eraserpencil_what i just said were settings in bios02:46
iosecureI get that. -.-02:46
iosecureAre you in the installer NOW?02:46
eraserpencil_nope02:46
iosecureWell, let me know when you are.02:47
eraserpencil_ok02:48
eraserpencil_i am in02:48
iosecureAnd you've booted it the same way you have been?02:49
eraserpencil_yes02:49
iosecureSwitch to another tty. 'stat /sys/firmware/efi' - what's the result?02:49
eraserpencil_im not in the gui installer..02:52
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iosecureNo one said you were. Ctrl+Alt+F2.02:52
eraserpencil_that dosent work for me02:53
tomreyneraserpencil_: you seem to have lost all motivation since it didn'T work out the first time. giveit another try, though, iosecure knows how to do it and i'm sure you two can work it out quickly if you can motivate yourself a bit more. if you don't know how to do something, just ask.02:53
iosecureeraserpencil_: Which installer image are you using?02:53
eraserpencil_https://askubuntu.com/questions/919940/installation-of-ubuntu-16-04-usb-live-section?rq=102:54
iosecureBecause I don't know of any Ubuntu installer image since Ubuntu existed that doesn't support multiple TTYs.02:54
iosecureThat's not an image. That's a link to forums.02:54
eraserpencil_yea, that qn has the picture of what im having02:54
iosecureYou haven't booted into the installer yet.02:54
iosecureThat's basically grub.02:55
iosecureSo choose the first option.02:55
eraserpencil_tomreyn, thanks! would really love to figure out multi disks setup02:55
iosecureNow, that said, if that's what you're seeing, you are NOT booting in UEFI mode, and you already have a problem.02:55
eraserpencil_iosecure, now this is tricky... if i disabled "legacy ROM" i have installer screen that's 5x5 cm02:57
tomreynIIRC eraserpencil_ said that booting ubuntu in uefi moode provided no video output. which is probably why they have not changed back to uefi booting02:57
iosecureUnfortunately, legacy boot is not an option given the current constraints.02:57
iosecureTo properly coexist with Windows 10, UEFI boot/install is required.02:58
eraserpencil_i hate windows so much...02:58
iosecureThis isn't a Windows issue.02:58
eraserpencil_okay I'm in BIOS now..02:59
iosecureTo properly coexist with ANY operating system that boots via UEFI, you need to install the other OSes the same way.02:59
eraserpencil_boot list option: UEFI, secureboot: disabled, legacy option rom: enabled, attempt legacy boot: disabled02:59
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iosecureI'm uncertain why the legacy option ROM setting changes this. But that boot screen is definitely NOT UEFI.03:01
eraserpencil_I am in uefi installer now03:04
eraserpencil_do i choose the hwe kernel option or the one without03:04
tomreyneraserpencil_: before you proceed: why are you installing ubuntu server rather than desktop next to your windows desktop? would it not make more sense to assume you want to switch between desktops by multi.booting?03:06
tomreyneraserpencil_: and another questions: why 16.04 rather than 18.04 or 18.10?03:06
cryptodan_mobileiosecure: I had windows 10 using mbr nonefi for boot03:06
eraserpencil_just trying to learn more things i dont understand about linux.03:07
tomreyncryptodan_mobile: yes apparently you can do either BIOS + MBR or UEFI + GPT with windows (and nothing else)03:07
eraserpencil_i have this screen now03:08
eraserpencil_https://askubuntu.com/questions/970368/black-screen-when-uefi-installing-ubuntu-server-16-04-on-gtx-1060-laptop03:08
tomreyneraserpencil_: have you considered running one of the two in a VM, or using WSL? personally i couldn't imagine myself multi-booting between a desktpo and text based server OS on my main computer, I would just not ever boot to the server one.03:09
tomreyn!wsl03:09
ubottuWindows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide03:09
cryptodan_mobileeraserpencil: use the recovery part of the installer and edit /etc/default/grub sns remove quiet splash and update grub.03:09
tomreyncryptodan_mobile: ubuntu is not installed, yet03:10
tomreyneraserpencil_: i'm not trying to convince you to do otherwise, just trying to understand your choices, and to make sure that the effort spent here will actually pay off for you.03:12
fleabeardhi all, I've got the latest stable ubuntu server os installed and have a Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02)03:12
fleabeard that is only sending/receiving in 100mbs mode. Any way I can force it to communicate in 1000mbs mode instead?03:12
tomreynfleabeard: can you get us the numbers in square brackets from "lspci -nn" for this one?03:13
tomreynfleabeard: alsowhich ubuntu version?03:14
fleabeardtomreyn, ubuntu version 4.15.0-43-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 6 14:45:28 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux03:14
tomreynfleabeard: ok, that's your kernel version, which is relevant, but i was more looking for your ubuntu release: lsb_release -ds03:15
fleabeardtomreyn, output from lspci -nn : Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network                                                                                                  Connection [8086:10bd] (rev 02)03:15
tomreynwhat is on the other end of the ethernet wire?03:16
fleabeardtomreyn, the router, it's a TP-Link Archer C9 Gigabit capable router03:17
eraserpencil_haha perhaps i am overly ambitious than what my skillset/knowledge allows. quite interested in a total cli experience from installation to i3, to cli irc...basically any and everything except mail and browser03:17
eraserpencil_i think ill try the desktop installer see how it's done and try the cli installer again03:19
tomreynfleabeard: have you run ethtool or mii-tool against it to see whether ti claims to support GbE?03:20
fleabeardtomreyn, nope, I'll do that now and let you know03:20
tomreynshow "Supported link modes"03:20
tomreyn+ "Advertised link modes"03:21
cryptodan_mobileIs the port you are plugged into on router setup for gige03:21
fleabeardtomreyn, when running: sudo ethtool eth0 it says it cannot get device settings, etc because "No such device" ?03:22
tomreynfleabeard: "ip link" lists your devices, it is probably named differently03:22
fleabeardgotcha03:23
fleabeardis there a preferred text pasting site I can link to for you?03:23
fleabeardI ran lshw -C network and it reports that size: 100Mbit/s and capacity: 1Gbit/s fwiw03:23
tomreyncryptodan_mobile: according to the vendor website, all of the routers' four yellow RJ-45 LAN ports support GbE03:24
tomreyn!paste | fleabeard03:24
ubottufleabeard: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:24
fleabeardtomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H6CxkPtNpk/03:24
cryptodan_mobileOn mine I can config them to use 10, 100, and 1000 along with auto03:25
fleabeardtomreyn, here is my lshw output as well > https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FP89H6D8n5/03:25
tomreynfleabeard: what does it say if you: sudo ethtool -s enp0s25 speed 1000 duplex full03:25
fleabeardtomreyn, I ran that, just waiting for the terminal to respond (I'm ssh'd in)03:26
tomreynoh, so your connection dropped03:27
tomreyni wasn't aware you were doing this remotely over network03:27
fleabeardhah np03:27
fleabeardI'm trying to reconnect, but it seems unresponsive, I'll go check on it in the other room real quick03:28
tomreynfleabeard: also, i think you didnt tell us your ubuntu release, yet: lsb_release -ds03:29
fleabeardtomreyn, I think that may have worked, though for some reason it's only issuing ipv6 addresses now instead of ipv4 :(03:31
tomreynfleabeard: ipv6 or mac address?03:31
fleabeardtomreyn, it says inet603:31
tomreyncan you connect somewhere?03:32
fleabeardtomreyn, I'm not sure if putty allows for ipv6 ssh connections03:32
tomreynYou should input the IPv6 address between brackets, like this: [2001:14c0:2:2f6f::6]03:33
tomreynputty supports ipv6 since v0.5803:35
tomreyn(released in 2004-12-31)03:36
fleabeardtomreyn, sorry, I'm really struggling to get this to connect remotely, lol03:39
fleabeardand as fate would have it, the wife is watching NetFlix on the TV that this box is connected too03:39
tomreynfleabeard: no worries ;-)03:40
WoCAny particular Desktop Environment (DE) better suited for multiple monitor setup?03:40
tomreyneraserpencil_: good luck there witht he desktop installer, come back if you need any help with it.03:40
tomreynWoC: i'd go with the latest default ubuntu03:41
fleabeardtomreyn, I may have to do this at the machine. Can you advise on what my next steps would be? My old eyes can't make out this damn near hexadecimal ipv6 address xD03:41
tomreynfleabeard: do what exactly?03:42
fleabeardtomreyn, like, is there a way to have it use ipv4 over ipv6?03:42
tomreynfleabeard: "the machine" is the remote system you lost connectivity to?03:42
fleabeardtomreyn, correct, sorry for not clarifying03:42
WoCtomreyn, k, not sure which one is default, is that the Wayland or the non Wayland ?03:42
tomreynWoC: non-wayland if you'Re running a supported ubuntu version03:42
WoCok, ty :)03:43
fleabeardtomreyn, I'm guessing I'd have to blacklist the kernel module for ipv6 to get around this?03:43
WoCRight now i use LXQT, but it doesnt seem to save main-screen etc03:43
tomreynfleabeard: i might be able to answer this if i knew the ubuntu version you run there03:43
fleabeardtomreyn, sorry, I just downloaded the latest one tonight and installed it.03:44
fleabeardtomreyn, it's Ubuntu Server 18.04.1 LTS03:44
tomreynthe latest stable release is ubuntu 18.1003:44
tomreynokay03:44
fleabeardmeant LTS, not lates :S03:44
fleabeardbeen a long day, lol03:44
fleabeards/lates/latest03:45
tomreynfleabeard: "sudoedit /etc/gai.conf" and remove the # infront of the "precedence ::ffff:0:0/96  100" line (100, not 10!)03:46
eraserpencil_whats the state on drivers for nvidia gpus? do i use nouveau drivers, nvidia prime or bumblebee03:47
sgianhi all..a longtime linux fan, but not very advanced...have to split my focus for work..03:48
tomreyneraserpencil_: my (rather limited) understanding of the nvidia world is that you most likely want to use the proprietary nvidia drivers, and nvidia prime (but i may well be wrong there).03:49
sgiananyone willing to help with installing authorized keys for automated backup via rsync?03:49
tomreynWoC: i think you'll have more success with gnome 3 or kde403:50
tomreyn* kde 503:50
fleabeardtomreyn, thanks, that got us back on ipv403:51
fleabeardtomreyn, we're still rocking @ 100mbit/s speeds though :/03:52
tomreynfleabeard: nice, nice. you dont happen to have multiple NICs in there, maybe wireless, too?03:52
fleabeardtomreyn, nope, this is the only NIC (onboard) and no wifi adapters or anything of the sort03:52
tomreynfleabeard: okay, i'm just asking because it'd be nice to have a wy to recover more easily without chasing away your wife and walking all the time if the connection will fail again03:53
fleabeardtomreyn, lol, no worries :)03:53
tomreynremotely fixing network interfaces is ... not necessarily a good approach03:53
tomreynthat's unless you have out of band management03:53
fleabeardyeah, I liken it to washing my arse prior to washing my face :P03:53
tomreynfleabeard: more details than i was looking for this time ;)03:54
fleabeardhah03:54
tomreynfleabeard: so you want to keep on trying to make it do GbE remotely, with a good probability of it failing again?03:55
fleabeardtomreyn, of course!03:55
fleabeardshe's not watching anything too important, Trailer Park Boys, so I don't feel as bad interrupting :)03:56
tomreynfleabeard: umm, well. okay, let me do some reading. you can do, too. i suspect youmay want a firmware upgrade, installed to either the device itself or downloaded to ubuntu and placed somewhere in /lib/firmware03:57
tomreynfleabeard: you could also try to make the NIC switch to 1GbE again, using the same command as before. maybe it'd work now thanks to ipv4 preference.03:58
fleabeardtomreyn, sure, lemme give that another go03:58
tomreynfleabeard: if you'll do, be sure to run this command from within a screen or tmux session, though, so you'll be able to see the output03:58
tomreyn* GNU screen03:58
eraserpencil_thanks alot tomreyn03:59
tomreyneraserpencil_: you're welcome!03:59
cryptodan_mobiletomreyn: you are spot on with nvidia comment above03:59
tomreynsgian: hi there. not sure i can help you, since i'm working with fleabeard right now, but you can repeat the question later, also providing more details: what doesn't seem to be working when you do it as discribed on one of the surely many tutorials out there?04:01
tomreyncryptodan_mobile: thanks.04:01
tomreyneraserpencil_: cryptodan_mobile, a potential nvidia user, says what i said about nvidia is correct.04:02
SlidingHorn!details | sgian04:02
ubottusgian: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.04:02
tomreyn!pm | sgian04:03
ubottusgian: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.04:03
sgiantrying to install rsa key on remote machine so that I can push incremental backups through rsync04:03
sgiancreated key, installed into .ssh/authorized_keys in home directry of user that I want to access..04:04
eraserpencil_haha, i can confirm that is good advice04:04
fleabeardtomreyn, ok, issued the command this time at the machine itself, there was no output but a quick 'ifconfig' showed it using ipv6 again, so I did a reboot and it's back to ipv4 @ 100Mbit/s04:04
sgianset permissions to 700 on remote .ssh folder, and 604 on authorized_keys...works, but still prompts for rsa passphrase?04:05
sgianworked through several tutorials, but same result...does anyone have a link that they can verify, and i'll do the homework?04:07
fleabeardtomreyn, if it's of any use to you, I just ran lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net and it's using Kernel driver e1000e04:08
iosecuresgian: Proper permissions for authorized_keys is 0644.04:09
iosecuresgian: The fact that it's prompting for a passphrase for your key means that your private key is encrypted. Has nothing to do with the public key on the other end.04:10
WoCty tomreyn, appreciated && Merry Christmas04:10
tomreynWoC: and to you, you'Re welcome!04:12
iosecuresgian: And please don't send me unsolicited private messages.04:12
tomreynfleabeard: sorry, was reading...04:12
fleabeardtomreyn, same, lol np04:12
iosecurefleabeard: So you know, 'ifconfig' was deprecated like... a decade ago.04:13
fleabeardtomreyn, I'm seeing a lot of ppl saying to recompile the kernel with e1000 instead of the e1000e, which is way above my skillset, so I hope that isn't the fix for this lol04:13
sgianiosecure: ok, ok...sorry, new to irc...how do i address you without pming?04:13
iosecureYou just did.04:13
tomreynfleabeard: good. :) i was actually wondfering whether you'Rd be using a custom compiled e1000 rather than the e1000e which comes with ubuntu (which you should eb using)04:13
fleabeardiosecure, good to know, I'm old school and haven't used linux in a very long time :)04:13
sgianiosecure: ok cool...that was just a guess04:14
iosecurefleabeard: Yeah, it was replaced with the iproute2 toolset. Check out the 'ip' command. 'ip addr' for example.04:14
tomreynfleabeard: i see such posts from 10 years ago, did you spot a current one?04:14
fleabeardtomreyn, nah, these are all ancient as well and no solution given :(04:14
sgianiosecure: so i should recreate the key?04:14
fleabeardI was really hoping to just use ubuntu server for a plex media server instead of installing that hog called Windows 10 on it :(04:14
iosecuresgian: No.04:14
iosecuresgian: Its functioning properly. You could also remove the passphrase from the key, but that diminishes security.04:15
iosecuresgian: As anyone in possession of the keyfile can then use it.04:15
tomreynfleabeard: have a look at dmesg -b, too, maybe paste it as well, it may have hints on why it didnt pick 1GbE in the first place04:16
sgianiosecure: so how do i automate rsync through cront?04:16
sgianiosecure: *cron04:16
* sgian is felling dense04:17
fleabeardtomreyn, dmesg: invalid option -- 'b'04:17
iosecuresgian: Then yes, you'd want to remove the passphrase from the private key.04:17
WoCfleabeard, i'm running a plex server on my ubuntu, no issues04:17
tomreynfleabeard: oh, right, sorry, i mixed this up with jounralctl. just "dmesg" then04:17
iosecuresgian: ssh-keygen -p -f /path/keyfile04:17
iosecuresgian: Enter the current passphrase, and when it asks for the new one, just press enter.04:18
sgianiosecure: and that will allow me to NOT broadcast my password?04:18
WoCfleabeard, but sometimes the startup gets messed up with plexmediaserver04:18
tomreynWoC: i think plex is not the problem for fleabeard, just the network link speed should be higher04:18
iosecuresgian: When would you be broadcasting a password at all?04:18
WoCoh04:18
fleabeardtomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pZfvWwtMJ6/04:19
sgianiosecure: like sshpass or some other mechanism04:19
tomreynfleabeard: ugh, i forgot you'Re using putty04:19
iosecuresgian: For automated usage, you'll want to use keys, not passwords, yes.04:19
tomreynfleabeard: can you" dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999   # then copy + paste the url?04:20
fleabeardsure!04:20
sgianiosecure: or do I even need to do that, as I'm connecting through VPN?04:20
iosecuresgian: It's advised, yes.04:20
fleabeardtomreyn, https://termbin.com/vfuz04:20
sgianiosecure: thank you...let me give that a try...04:21
fleabeardtomreyn, just noticed something in that mess04:23
fleabeardit says link speed was downgraded by SmartSpeed04:23
fleabeard10/100 speed: disabling TSO04:23
fleabeardit's the last few lines of that dmesg output04:23
tomreynfleabeard: thanks. just a side note / observation: current (latest / 2014) mainboard bios for this system is A22 - you have A14 from 2009. update is at https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/drivers/driversdetails?driverId=2DWTY&osCode=WW1&productCode=optiplex-75504:24
fleabeardtomreyn, lmao, sheesh, told you I'm old school xD04:24
fleabeardI think I avoided it because I ran into issues with it not working in the past, but I'll give it another shot04:25
tomreynfleabeard: those link speed downgrade messages are likely a result of us setting the link speed higher than autonegotiation allowed.04:25
tomreynfleabeard: https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/sln171755/updating-the-dell-bios-in-linux-and-ubuntu-environments?lang=en04:27
tomreynfleabeard: something else you could try about ethtool is to have it disable autonegotiation  and force it to 1GbE. might work, but mor elikely this will fail. but its worth a try.04:28
fleabeardtomreyn, I'll give that a try, I thought I saw something about that. Do you know how I would go about disabling that?04:29
fleabeardalso, trying to locate an iso of the bios update, seems like the very much like .exe's :(04:29
tomreynfleabeard: ethtool -s enp0s25 speed 1000 duplex full autoneg off04:29
tomreynfleabeard: note this line on the second dell link i sent above "Note: the BIOS will end in an .EXE extension. Even though Linux can’t open it natively, it will be processed by the BIOS properly"04:31
iosecurefleabeard: Most BIOS update packages like that can be run from a FreeDOS environment.,04:32
fleabeardtomreyn, disabling auto negotiation didn't seem to work out for me :(04:34
tomreynfleabeard: if you have another 1GbE device available, try setting up a link between the two instead. maybe it's actually the router that's causing the issues.04:36
fleabeardsadly, I think I'm gonna have to do the awful task of installing windows on this box so I can get that 1000Mbit/s speed I so desperately need for this project. I appreciate all your help though! It's getting late here and I've got a Christmas dinner to prepare tomorrow lol. Merry Christmas to you and yours!04:37
sgianiosecure:  crud...I rushed, it and now have to start all over again, methinks...I think I understand now, so thank you, you rock04:37
tomreynfleabeard: a pity, good luck with this project and enjoy your dinner.04:38
sgianiosecure: i don't suppose you're a whiz with sonicwalls as well?...naw, I kid...thank you04:39
iosecureDepends on the question.04:39
iosecureBut that would be offtopic here.04:39
WoCLest ofc they are (tm) uBuntu ;)04:40
sgianspecifically working in a highly-interfered rf environ, with a staggering amount of threat detections04:40
sgianthinking of just erecting a faraday cage around the facility..of course, i joke..04:41
iosecureI, too, have worked in a SCIF.04:43
* sgian wishes a good night to all, and to all, a good night04:43
iosecureCheers, and Merry Christmas/Happy holidays.04:43
sgianiosecure: thank you again....appreciate it!04:43
blebjust curious, what license are ubuntu advantage ESM updates distributed under?05:00
bleband like is there anything preventing someone from packaging them and distributing them for free?05:00
zzwhello05:42
zzwMy computer is lenovo,i  have installed the ubuntu,but i can not boot the system,the screen is red and no words05:47
phenihey i am on ubuntu 16.04.5 and am having trouble with mounting smb shares that used to work06:03
pheni`when i try to run umount -a this is the output06:04
phenihttps://pastebin.com/1FCf0rLX06:04
WoCpheni, looks like you are trying to unmount all, on a running system06:05
WoCnot just smb shares06:06
pheniok, how can i diagnose the issue i have then? these smb shares used to mount06:06
phenii have them properly conigured in my fstab06:06
WoCumount is to unmount06:06
WoCyou can use something like umount -a -t smbfs06:07
WoCwhich would only unmount all smbfs06:07
phenishit mount -a not unmount a06:07
WoCt mount -a -t smbfs06:08
pheniok idk why it didnt mount on boot06:08
WoCtry*06:08
phenibut they mounted now06:08
phenilet me reboot and see if they mount again06:08
tomreynzzw: which ubuntu version did you install, and which exactl lenovo model is it?06:08
WoCshould06:08
tomreynzzw: here's an example for a specific model name: Lenovo ThinkPad T470p Laptop06:10
zzwi am sorry,my laptop is old version,g405s06:11
WoCwb pheni , all good?06:12
pheniWoC, idk what caused them to stop mounting, but its fixed now. sorry for the stupid question06:12
pheniyeah06:12
pheni...its been a long day lol06:13
WoCNo worries, Merry Christmas :)06:13
phenimerry christmas!06:13
WoCOne of them days ?06:13
tomreynzzw: okay, which ubuntu version?06:13
zzw16.04 and 18.0406:14
tomreynzzw: both did not boot properly?06:14
zzwtomreyn: yes,06:14
WoCzzw, dual booting ?06:16
WoCi.e. more than one os ?06:17
tomreynzzw: did oyu say anything after "yes"? i got disconnected06:18
WoC<zzw> 16.04 and 18.0406:19
tomreynzzw: i assume the red screen is due to the nvidia graphics chipset this system has. https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/lenovo-g-series-laptops/lenovo-g405s-notebook/parts/PD028121 states this has an nvidia N14M-GE graphics chipset, marketed as GT 720M06:19
zzwno say more06:19
tomreynWoC: thanks06:19
WoCnp06:20
zzwWoC: only one system06:20
tomreyn!nomodeset | zzw: try this06:20
ubottuzzw: try this: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter06:20
zzwthank you very much06:21
zzwall06:21
tomreynzzw: also consider a bios upgrade if yours is old: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/de/en/products/LAPTOPS-AND-NETBOOKS/LENOVO-G-SERIES-LAPTOPS/LENOVO-G405S-NOTEBOOK/downloads/DS03857706:22
zzwmy bios is v 306:22
tomreynokay, so nothing to do there06:23
tomreyn!pm | zzw06:23
ubottuzzw: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.06:23
zzwok06:24
zzwmy cpu and graphic cards are amd06:25
tomreynzzw: hmm then i guess lenovos online documentation must be wrong / misleading.06:26
zzwi go to try the nomodest,thank you all06:26
zzwi will be back later06:27
tomreynzzw: if it wont work, then run the live / installer system from usb again and post the output of these commands:06:27
tomreynzzw: sudo lspci -knn; sudo lsusb06:28
zzwok06:28
tomreyn(post them to https://paste.ubuntu.com)06:28
tomreynbut note down the URLs06:28
zzwyes06:29
tomreynhttps://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/lenovo/g-series/g405s/ states it's an AMD CPU and AMD Radeon HD8570M graphics chipset06:29
zzwthank you tom06:38
tomreynzzw: you're welcome. this is a "GCN (AMD "graphics core next generation") 1st (sub-)generation" graphics card. this subgeneration is codenames "southern islands". it may run with either the older radeon or the newer amdgpu driver. if one of them doesn't work well, you could try the other.06:41
tomreynboth are open source drivers which come with linux.06:42
zzwok06:43
tomreynthe "nomodeset" options is known to help with nvidia graphics occasionally, but i'm not sure it will help you. what you can do is to boot into recovery, which can provide you with a text terminal where you can analyze the situation (maybe guided by here) and see if it can be fixed.06:44
tomreynhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/150367/how-do-i-boot-into-recovery-mode#answers06:45
zzwok06:47
lotuspsychjegood morning and merry xmas to all07:12
shaaradgood morning07:12
shaaradHappy Xmas to you too07:12
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lotuspsychjetnx shaarad07:16
Citizen-Se7enMerry Christmas to all, and to all, a good night :)07:41
CarlFKhttps://github.com/mu-editor/mu/blob/master/debian/control  Depends: bunch of python packages. but the only repo I can find it in is: http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian wheezy08:15
CarlFKwhat's a sane way to get that package installed on ubuntu?08:15
DarwinElfI need a package's (nut) configuration files back.  I reinstalled it but then it didn't recreate /etc/nut08:23
InteloIs there a free software that is close to adobe premier?08:25
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ducasseIntelo: https://alternativeto.net/software/adobe-premiere-pro/?platform=linux08:27
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Inteloducasse,  whats the most popular?08:31
ducassei don't really know, this is something i don't use myself, but kdenlive is the most talked about i think08:32
Intelok08:33
Inteloducasse,  whats the best one to record video and capture screen as well (for making youtube videos)08:34
InteloIs there a problem with boya m1 mic and ubuntu?08:34
ducasseIntelo: i've no idea, sorry08:36
Inteloducasse,  can kdenlive capture from cam?08:36
ducasseIntelo: as i said, i don't use it. try #kdenlive08:37
CarlFKintelo: I use http://shotcut.org08:39
Intelothx08:40
gnnbbHow do I prevent pulseaudio switching to new connected devices?(audio IF from PS4 controller etc.)08:58
Net|https://bootlin.com/blog/mali-opengl-support-on-allwinner-platforms-with-mainline-linux/10:00
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GoopHey, how do I go about starting Thunderbird minimized on my Ubuntu box?10:10
SimonNLGoop: https://askubuntu.com/questions/169437/how-to-start-thunderbird-minimized-on-start-up11:02
SimonNLwasn't that hard to find11:02
nikrewhat do i lose if i dont upgrade to 18.04 from 16.04 but upgrade kernel only?12:51
EriC^^nikre: newer programs and longer support time to name a few12:58
DarwinElfI need a package's (nut) configuration files back.  I reinstalled it but then it didn't recreate /etc/nut14:23
lotuspsychjeDarwinElf: does the manpage show anything usefull?14:26
lotuspsychjeDarwinElf: check also your /home for configs perhaps, with shown hidden folders14:28
lotuspsychjeDarwinElf: or what about /etc/default/nut ?14:29
DarwinElfno, it was in /etc/nut .  I messed it up, deleted it, then expected it to reappear after package deletion & reinstallation14:30
DarwinElfa proper package manager would always install configuration if the area is blank.  That's what installpkg and probably (BSD) pkg* do14:32
lotuspsychjeDarwinElf: did you install nut via apt?14:35
DarwinElfyes14:35
DarwinElfor apt-get14:35
lotuspsychjeDarwinElf: try man nut.conf14:41
DarwinElfi know how to use nut.  I just need the configuration files to be installed like they were originally14:42
lotuspsychjeDarwinElf: if you delete a file its gone, unless you try to recover it back with photorec14:43
DarwinElfthey should be in the package.  Why aren't they in the package?14:43
DarwinElfi don't need my configuration, just the default and stuff like nut.conf.sample14:44
DarwinElfon better distributions than Debian-based, these are part of the package14:44
DarwinElffirst time I installed it they were there.  Now after a reinstall they are not.  It seems something like a deletion log that prevents it from reinstalling configuration14:45
lotuspsychjeDarwinElf: did you reboot also?14:47
DarwinElfno14:47
lotuspsychjeDarwinElf: can these help? https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/tree/master/conf14:47
DarwinElfwell, I did now, but I'm using other configuration14:47
DarwinElfi'm not sure.  It seems the problem was that is altered on some/all distributions14:47
DarwinElfotherwise I wouldn't be in this situation.  I just copied over my configuration from a strictly Unix-like distribution14:47
DarwinElfthat didn't work, so I deleted it14:48
lotuspsychjeDarwinElf: your ubuntu version?14:49
DarwinElf18.0.414:49
lotuspsychje!info nut bionic14:49
ubottunut (source: nut): network UPS tools - metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.4-5.1ubuntu2 (bionic), package size 124 kB, installed size 273 kB14:49
DarwinElfyou have to configure network UPS tools (nut) before running anyway, so it's not like there should've been some log a service was added & started then deleted but it was assuming you didn't delete /etc/nut14:50
DarwinElfi'll look for that14:50
lotuspsychjeDarwinElf: another idea could be, purge nut, then clean your system out with bleachbit, then reinstall nut and reboot, try again clean14:51
DarwinElfi'm not sure what all that is but am willing to learn about it14:51
DarwinElfit wasn't from a PPA; haven't heard of other types of purges14:51
lotuspsychjeDarwinElf: i wasnt talking about ppa, with purge i mean nut uninstall with apt14:53
DarwinElfoh, I might've done that originally14:53
lotuspsychjeDarwinElf: sudo apt purge nut?14:53
DarwinElfyeah, it's not like I know how to delete a Debian-based package otherwise14:54
DarwinElfi did 'apt remove nut'14:54
lotuspsychjeDarwinElf: apt remove keeps config files, purge not14:55
lotuspsychjebbl14:57
DarwinElfok. The problem still seems to be something sinister behind the scenes like systemd14:58
craigbass76I'm seeing the VU meter move when I pluck a string (running a guitar into a mixing board, which is coming in the Line-in jack) but I'm getting no sound. I am getting sound for other things, like youtube. There's a box unchecked or something, but I don't know where.15:09
myselfVU meter on the mixing board, or in Sound / Input / Input Level ?15:09
craigbass76Sound input -- I just enabled Loopback in alsamixer, and that seems to have done the trick.15:11
myselfGood stuff!15:11
craigbass76Not sure where that option is in a GUI anywhere... You seen it ever?15:12
myselfI'm a total noob, no idea ;) but it's not obvious in my GUI..15:19
cow0wHi:) any idea how to send Sysrq over telnet/screen? (sending like the keystrokes and not writing to the sysrq-trigger)15:35
ducassecow0w: try writing the characters you want to send to /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq15:36
cow0wwithout shell.. I want to send like the alt-printscreen key strokes. f.e to reboot hanging kernel15:37
ducassenot without a shell, no15:38
cow0wYou say I can't emulate these keystrokes over a remote machine?;\15:41
iosecureIt requires a shell.15:41
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Nomad_Anyone good with Duplicity and excludes?16:33
mDonchev_Hello16:51
mDonchev_I'm trying to resurrect my old PC with an Asus motherboard with a built-in GeForce chipset and I've installed Ubuntu 18.04 ... it recognised everything but my graphic chipset. I've tried many instructions on the net but nothing.... it went down to 640x480 without any options on the Resolution dropdown. I would appreciate any help to make it work.16:51
TJ-mDonchev_: start with "lspci -nnk -d ::0300" to identify the device16:53
mDonchev_TJ-, VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a (Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc.) ... Kernel modules: nvidiafb, nouveau16:58
tonytMerry Christmas all17:03
mDonchev_TJ-, any idea how to proceed with that issue?17:05
mDonchev_Everything else is found and working ... wifi dongle ... everything...17:06
mDonchev_Should I reinstall Ubuntu 17.x ?17:06
mDonchev_I red somewhere that it will recognize the old nvidia 304 driver and will start working without an issue? Could this be a solution?17:06
vlad_anyone here use phoronix test suite? It seems like the whole thing is buggy, fails to install lots of files, etc.17:07
leftyfbmDonchev_: 17.x is EOLD and unsupported. No, you should not install either of them.17:07
leftyfbs/EOLD/EOL/17:08
ioriamDonchev_, can you paste   lspci -nnk   | nc termbin.com 9999   ?17:09
mDonchev_OK. How to fix my NVidia issue then? I really really want to use17:09
mDonchev_ok ... wait17:09
ioriamDonchev_, but i doubt you can use that card with gnome-shell ....17:11
mDonchev_00:12.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C68 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] [10de:053e] (rev a2) {newline} Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. C68 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] [1043:8308]17:11
ioriamDonchev_, again ,   lspci -nnk   | nc termbin.com 999917:12
mDonchev_https://termbin.com/awbv17:13
mDonchev_It's an old PC as I said earlier.17:14
ioriamDonchev_,   cat /proc/cmdline   (you can paste the line here)17:15
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mDonchev_BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-43-generic root=UUID=665ef274-aaf1-4bb2-9602-5260bab0bff6 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=117:17
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ioriamDonchev_,   did you blacklist nouveau ?17:18
mDonchev_to be frank, from all the manuals that I've tested yesterday, I might have. Not an expert on the low level of linux so17:19
mDonchev_...17:19
mDonchev_probably ... I did without understanding what I'm doing.17:20
mojtabaI have just deployed an Ubuntu machine, it shows '9 packages can be updated. 7 updates are security updates.' but when I run sudo apt-ge t update; sudo apt-get upgrade, nothing happens. Do you know what should I do?17:20
mojtabaWhen I log back in again, it shows me the same messages.17:20
ioriamDonchev_,   lsmod | grep -i nouveau17:20
mDonchev_did that ... no response ... just the prompt again.17:21
ioriamDonchev_,  lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-$(uname -r) | grep nouveau.ko17:21
mDonchev_lib/modules/4.15.0-43-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko17:23
ioriamDonchev_, ls /etc/modprobe.d/  | nc termbin.com 999917:24
mDonchev_https://termbin.com/0mc517:25
TJ-mojtaba: it's possible the MOTD that you see on log-in hasn't been updated17:26
fleabeardhello, anyone know why my gigabit onboard nic is only using 100 Mbps instead of 1000 Mbps? Using ubuntu server 18.04 LTS. The onboard NIC in question is an Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02)17:26
iosecureCheck the cable?17:26
mojtabaTJ-: thanks17:27
ioriamDonchev_, cat  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia-nouveau.conf  | nc termbin.com 999917:27
TJ-mojtaba: the scripts are in /etc/update-motd.d/, you can update it manually with "sudo update-motd"17:28
mDonchev_https://termbin.com/puc617:28
mojtabaTJ-: Thanks for your response and help.17:28
lotuspsychjefleabeard: join #ubuntu-server please17:29
iosecurefleabeard: Ignore him. -.-17:29
ioriamDonchev_, ok, and why did you blacklist nouvea ? there was a problem with it ?17:29
iosecurefleabeard: Anyway, the most common cause I've seen for that is a bad/damaged cable.17:29
iosecurefleabeard: Including leads not properly seated within the connector, or pulled free due to strain.17:30
fleabeardiosecure, I created the cable last night and for all I know it's working fine (cat6)17:30
iosecurefleabeard: Yeah, its happened to me, too. Try another cable if you have one handy?17:30
fleabeardiosecure, I've tried it with a purchased cat5e cable as well and have the same issue, sadly.17:30
iosecurefleabeard: Can you confirm that it's using the e1000e driver?17:31
mDonchev_ioria, When I first installed Ubuntu 18.04 it started on 1024x768 on a monitor that support 1280x1024 ... the dropdown for resolution on the settings was giving me options only up to 1024 so I tried to install the NVIDIA drivers in order to get the normal resolution on my monitor. So I started following several manuals on how to install nvidia.304 (my driver) on the system but obviously they didn't do anything except for me to end with17:32
mDonchev_ a 640x480 resolution (with no options on the dropdown on Settings) as well as probably messing up with the whole drivers field.17:32
fleabeardiosecure, yep, it's using e1000e, e1000e: enp0s25 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: Rx/Tx17:32
ioriamDonchev_, 18.04 by default does not support 30417:32
iosecurefleabeard: And the switch its connected to is a gig switch with the port set to autonegotiate?17:33
mDonchev_yes,17:33
mDonchev_is there a version (not much older than 18.04) that will support it by default?17:33
ioriamDonchev_, we can try with a ppa ,or install 16.0417:33
mDonchev_I'm wishing to resintall the ... ok... so 16.04 is not much older (I assume 2016???)17:33
mDonchev_what I will lose when I go back to 16.04 ?17:33
leftyfbfleabeard: what is it plugged into?17:33
ioriamDonchev_, for now, paste  dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 999917:34
iosecureleftyfb: Good point, I assumed it was a switch.17:34
fleabeardiosecure, yep, as far as I know, it's a TP-Link Archer C9 gigabit router. I believe all ports support gigabit connectivity17:34
mDonchev_https://termbin.com/y8am17:34
iosecurefleabeard: Log on to the router's interface and confirm port configuration. That's all I can think of outside of hardware or media faults.17:35
ioriamDonchev_, 396 ?17:35
mDonchev_what is 396?17:36
ioriamDonchev_, your ppa nvidia version driver; you already tried the ppa, i guess17:36
mDonchev_I think I did that yesterday17:36
ioriamDonchev_, and it's broken;  sudo apt purge nvidia*     and sudo apr autoremove --purge17:37
jpmhI have just  tried to install fail2ban on 16.4 - apt-get shows all is good - and indeed it is running - BUT there is no jail.conf file - what happened, it has always been there in previous versions?17:37
mDonchev_ioria, OK... this is done.17:39
jpmhand I should add, that if I copy the jal.conf file from my old system then there are errors that cause the start to fail17:39
ioriamDonchev_,   dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 999917:39
mDonchev_https://termbin.com/ou0617:40
ioriamDonchev_, sudo apt purge libnvidia*17:40
lotuspsychjeDarwinElf: did you fix the nut issue?17:40
mDonchev_ioria, OK. This removed a bunch of stuff17:42
ioriamDonchev_, sudo apt purge xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-39617:42
mDonchev_it said package "xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-396" is not installed, so not removed17:43
ioriamDonchev_,   sudo apt autoremove --purge17:43
mDonchev_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded17:44
ioriamDonchev_,   dpkg -l | grep nvidia     is empty now ?17:44
mDonchev_it found libnvidia-compute-396:i386, 396.54-0ubuntu0~gpu18.04.117:45
ioriamDonchev_,   dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 999917:45
mDonchev_https://termbin.com/2fjr17:47
ioriamDonchev_, sudo apt purge libnvidia-compute-396:i38617:47
mDonchev_ok . done.17:48
mDonchev_removed it.17:48
ioriamDonchev_, so with nouveau we were unable to set the correct resolution ?17:49
lotuspsychjejpmh: update your system to latest please17:49
mDonchev_it was 1024x76817:49
mDonchev_and the monitor supports 1280x102417:49
ioriamDonchev_,   ubuntu-drivers list | nc termbin.com 999917:50
jpmhlotuspsychje: sadly - running under a container and the most recent LTS available is 16.4 - so not a choice17:50
iosecure16.04 is still supported anyway.17:50
lotuspsychjejpmh: are you using version 0.9.3-1 ?17:50
jpmhlotuspsychje: and anyway, 16.4 should be fully supported17:50
jpmhlotuspsychje: how do I get the version frol fail2ban17:51
iosecurejpmh: 16.04 doesn't go EOL until April 2021. You're fine for a little while.17:51
lotuspsychjejpmh: apt-cache policy fail2ban17:51
lotuspsychjeiosecure: i didnt say upgrade, i said update17:52
iosecurelotuspsychje: You were incredibly vague, actually.17:52
jpmhlotuspsychje:   Installed: 0.9.3-117:52
jpmhlotus - by update - do you mean apt-get update - id so, done already17:52
lotuspsychjejpmh: wich kernel are you on xenial?17:53
mDonchev_ioria, it returns the prompt again without any termbin url17:53
Gregor3000what ISO to USB app should be used for 64 bit linux OS? is rufus the only one that can handle it?17:53
ioriamDonchev_,   run   ubuntu-drivers list    and paste the output on  paste.ubuntu.com17:53
jpmhlotuspsychje: 2.6.32-042stab133.217:53
mDonchev_i'm typing from another computer ... give me a second :)17:54
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lotuspsychjejpmh: what kind of kernel is that?17:54
Gregor3000would using a DVD instead solve the issue that gives error codes like: "Failed to load ldlinux.c32 or SYSLINUX: No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found"17:54
mDonchev_ioria, only one line: nvidia-30417:54
iosecurejpmh: OpenVZ.17:54
iosecurelotuspsychje: ^17:54
lotuspsychjeGregor3000: wich iso are you trying to burn?17:54
iosecureHe did say it was a container.17:54
jpmhiosecure: yes17:55
ioriamDonchev_,   ok,  sudo updatedb    and     locate xorg.conf | nc termbin.com 999917:55
ZeZuIs there new compat. issue w/ the 18.10 iso and vbox 6.0 ?17:55
ZeZuIt won't even boot into the livecd17:56
Gregor3000lotuspsychje: Kubuntu 18.04.1 64 bit. i so far used Yumi, Unetbootin, linuxliveusb creator, i checked the image and hashes match. so donwloaded image is good.17:57
cryptodan_mobileGregor3000: try etcher or rufus in windows17:57
mDonchev_ioria, https://termbin.com/6dxm17:57
lotuspsychjeGregor3000: im always using the ubuntu disc creator like a charm17:58
ioriamDonchev_,   lsmod | grep -i nvidia    is empty ,right ?17:58
mDonchev_yes17:59
ioriamDonchev_,   is this a fresh install of 18.04 or an upgrade from xenial 16.04 ?17:59
mDonchev_fresh one18:00
ioriamDonchev_,   ok,  sudo apt install nvidia-304   and reboot18:00
Gregor3000ok rufus is not an option since it doesn't work on XP. or at least i need to move the image to a newer pc and do the burn there.18:00
lotuspsychjeGregor3000: universal usb installer works also nice from windows18:01
lotuspsychje!usb | Gregor300018:01
ubottuGregor3000: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent18:01
cryptodan_mobileGregor3000: how old is this machine?18:01
iosecureGregor3000: Rufus 2.18 supported XP.18:01
mDonchev_ok ... a lot of error messages of unmet dependencies: xorg-video-abi-11 (to 23)18:02
mDonchev_this was the main problm when I started with installing the drivers.18:02
mDonchev_will I lose a lot if I move to 16.04 from 18.04 ?18:02
ioriamDonchev_,  yes, a bug i think18:02
cryptodan_mobilemDonchev_: what video card18:02
ioriahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-304/+bug/173775018:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1737750 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-304 (Ubuntu) "nvidia-graphics-drivers fail to build [error: implicit declaration of function ‘init_timer’]" [Medium,In progress]18:03
mDonchev_integrated NVIDIA 7025 / nForce 630e18:03
mDonchev_an old ASUS motherboard18:03
ioriamDonchev_,  not been solved so far18:04
mDonchev_yes18:04
mDonchev_should I switch to 16.04 or try different linux distribution?18:04
cryptodan_mobilemDonchev_: you wont get support in new distros for that card you'd likely get better support under ubuntu 14.0418:04
Gregor3000cryptodan_mobile: about 14 years, but it was upgraded :-) single core 64bit AMD, 4GB ram, 2GB Nvidia gt730. the 16.04 was flying on it when i tested it on USB install back in summer.18:05
mDonchev_wow ... even 14.04 ? can I try 16.04 at least ... dont want to feel that old :)18:05
mDonchev_Gregor3000, are you sure?18:05
ioriamDonchev_, i'd try 16.04 (not 14.04)18:05
mDonchev_Gregor3000, 16.04 is my choice ?18:06
mDonchev_ioria, I'm downloading it now18:06
cryptodan_mobile16.04 might be iffy mDonchev_18:06
Gregor3000iosecure: according to the forums on internet i would need to use the latest version to avoid this error. latest version does not work on XP (eventhough website says it does). it would not even launch18:06
ioriamDonchev_, wait ... i mean '16.04' not 16.04.xx18:06
ioriamDonchev_, the build issue is about the 4.15 kernel ....18:07
mDonchev_I just downloaded: ubuntu-16.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso18:07
mDonchev_is this good or ?18:07
ioriamDonchev_, mmmm18:07
ioriamDonchev_, it ships the same kernel18:07
iosecureGregor3000: The latest version of Rufus doesn't support XP or Vista. The site says so.18:08
coz_etcher maybe18:09
cryptodan_mobileGregor3000: use another PC to generate the image18:09
Gregor3000i guess i will have to use another PC. what if i used a DVD? would that work better?18:09
mDonchev_guys, should I try this image: ubuntu-16.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso ?18:09
mDonchev_or should I install something else?18:09
coz_Gregor3000, it should work, not better or worse18:10
coz_Gregor3000,  as long as the iso can be burned to disk18:10
ioriamDonchev_, i'd try 16.04 (not 16.04.x)18:11
Gregor3000mDonchev_ there are 16.04, 16.04.1, 16.04.2... 16.04.5. the first two won't uprade the kernel. others will upgrade kernel when you do an update.18:11
mDonchev_ok18:11
mDonchev_where I can download 16.04 (only) from?18:11
ioriamDonchev_, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.0/18:11
jpmhlotuspsychje: SO, are we stumped on the jail.conf installation issue - if so, thanks for trying to help me18:12
lotuspsychjejpmh: wich ubuntu version did it work previously?18:13
jpmhlotuspsychje: 14.418:13
mDonchev_thank you guys18:14
jpmhlotuspsychje: and it IS working - I just can't configure it - it is almost like they changed something since, as I said, if I copy over the jail.conf file it fails18:14
mDonchev_I'm downloading and testing ...18:14
mDonchev_will get back to let you know ...18:14
lotuspsychjejpmh: https://upcloud.com/community/tutorials/install-fail2ban-ubuntu/18:14
lotuspsychjejpmh: did you setup liek this?18:14
jpmhlotuspsychje: I did the apt-get just as there and was planning to do the cp, but as I say, the file is not there18:15
lotuspsychjejpmh: did you reboot after install?18:17
jpmhlotuspsychje: did not re-boot - how would that bring a missing file into existence?18:18
jpmhlotuspsychje: I certainly can reboot if you think that it may help18:18
coz_give it a try18:19
TJ-jpmh: read "apt-get changelog fail2ban | grep -A 17 0.9.0+git48-gabcab00-1 "18:19
lotuspsychjejpmh: just as a test18:19
jpmhlotuspsychje: I will re-boot - and for what it is worth I did a find for jail.conf and did see: /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/fail2ban/tests/config/jail.conf18:19
mDonchev_ioria what I will lose when I move from 18.04 to 16.04 ?18:21
cryptodan_mobileGregor3000: not likely18:21
mDonchev_what's the difference?18:21
jpmhTJ-: AHA - that is EXACTLY it - YEP - they deprecated the file18:21
ioriamDonchev_, 16.04 uses unity, 18.04 gnome-shell (3)18:21
jpmhTJ-: so how do I find the new instructions?18:22
jpmhlotuspsychje: I think, given TJ's comment and the fact that it does indeed say deprecated, I will skip the reboot18:22
ioriamDonchev_, sr, how much ram do you have ?18:22
lotuspsychjejpmh: kk18:23
jpmhTJ-: lotuspsychje: TY so much - reading: https://askubuntu.com/questions/783190/fail2ban-0-9-0-enabling-jails now18:28
rktaHi, I just upgraded with do-release-upgrade to 18.04. After restart I can't resolve any url. Any hints where I should start looking?18:32
mDonchev_ioria: 2GB18:32
iosecurerkta: What's /etc/resolv.conf say?18:33
ioriamDonchev_, ok18:33
mDonchev_ioria, can you suggest any lighter linux distribution that will support that graphic card?18:33
rktaiosecure: nameserver 127.0.0.5318:33
iosecurerkta: Is systemd-resolved running?18:33
ioriamDonchev_, it's not about the distro... but xubuntu (or budgie) are very good18:34
rktasystemd-resolv --status gave me a list of somethings, dnssec, in-addr.arpa... no indication of not running18:35
mDonchev_ioria, can I find budgie on 16.04 ?18:35
iosecurerkta: Does it report which servers its using for resolution?18:36
ioriamDonchev_, nope18:36
ioriamDonchev_, you shoulduse a ppa18:37
rktaiosecure: I don't see anything that looks like a valid ip or non-local url18:37
iosecurerkta: Might be why. How are you configuring the interface?18:37
rktaiosecure: wicd-curses18:38
iosecureThen you might want to disable resolved and let wicd do what it used to do.18:38
ioriamDonchev_,  someone found a fix for 304 on 18.04 but it's a bit elaborated18:40
rktaiosecure: Just disable it with systemctl or is there more to do?18:40
iosecureStop/disable it, and remove the symlink /etc/resolv.conf18:40
iosecurerkta: I'm not sure what wicd uses to write to resolv.conf, though. It might write directly.18:40
rktak, will try18:41
mDonchev_ioria, where is that fix ..?18:41
ioriamDonchev_,  https://adufray.com/blog/2018/06/02/nvidia-304-127-on-bionic18:41
mDonchev_ioria, shall I try that before I go back to 16.04 ?18:42
ioriamDonchev_,  nope18:42
mDonchev_ioria, why?18:43
ioriamDonchev_,  have you ever installed nvidia from its website ?18:44
mDonchev_yes18:44
mDonchev_that messed up the whole thing :)18:44
ioriamDonchev_,  as i said, it's a bi elaborated18:44
mDonchev_OK18:45
mDonchev_Thank you very very much18:45
ioriamDonchev_,  let's try 16.04, if not working,  we can think something else18:46
mDonchev_ioria, I just booted 16.04 (try Ubuntu) and it did detect the monitor and it is on 1280x1024 and on Settings > Details for Graphics it says: Gallium 0.4 on NV6718:47
rktaiosecure: After disabling and manually adjusting resolv.conf it's working now, thank you. Will see what happends after a reboot though18:47
mDonchev_is this good?18:47
ioriamDonchev_,  sure, good job18:48
mDonchev_can I move the launcher bar to the bottom?18:50
mDonchev_:( like on 18.04 ?18:50
fareastcould someone please guide me in the direction to get opengl working for vmware. I have a dell latitude with intel gma18:51
ioriamDonchev_,  yes18:51
ioriamDonchev_,  install unity-tweak-tool18:52
mDonchev_thank you18:53
ioriamDonchev_,  you're welcm18:53
mDonchev_ioria, if I install Budgie, will I run on the same [roblem with my videocard?19:00
iorianope19:00
mDonchev_ioria, it has a fix for that?19:02
ioriamDonchev_,  why do you want budgie now ?19:03
mDonchev_it looks great :)19:03
mDonchev_I just saw it19:03
ioriamDonchev_,  https://ubuntubudgie.org/blog/2018/05/22/16-04-budgie-remix-end-of-support19:04
mDonchev_so I will run to the same problem with the video as they are 18.04 based?19:05
ioriamDonchev_,  idt so, you can try it https://launchpad.net/~budgie-remix/+archive/ubuntu/ppa19:07
mDonchev_thank you (bow)19:08
mDonchev_will do it now19:08
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phelixI have 18.04 Was having an issue with python and so I used apt-get and purged it. So many  things were removed. I have everything back and working fine. Except the kernel did come with drivers for my ethernet card. But now my ethernet card doesn't work. I am not sure how to get them back. i have even tried installing a newer kernel and ethernet still not working. Anyone have any ideas?20:23
OerHekspython is critical for your system, so.. reinstall it?20:25
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OerHeks!info python320:26
ubottupython3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Version 3.6.7-1~18.04 (bionic), package size 46 kB, installed size 187 kB20:26
OerHeksi wonder how you could remove it and all dependencies20:26
ioriaphelix, and what was the issue with python exactly ?20:27
OerHeksworst case scenario: chroot with a live iso, and reinstall ubuntu-desktop20:29
phelixioria, the issue wasn't actually with python. Something with my apt-get was broken and stuck with it. I couldn't get it to go away so I could use apt-get20:39
Haunted330sorry, we are closed20:39
ioriaphelix, if you removed python, apt won't work20:39
phelixI have re installed python20:39
phelixeverything is working properly now except my ethernet card.20:40
ioriaphelix, paste lspci -nnk20:40
phelixioria, https://pastebin.com/UdkeWT7c20:41
ioriaphelix,  uname-r20:42
ioriaphelix,  uname -r20:42
mDonchev_ioria, ubuntu-budgie started in the perfect resolution ;)20:43
mDonchev_thanks a lot20:43
ioriamDonchev_,  OK, NO PROBLEM20:43
phelixioria, 4.18.0-13-generic20:43
ioriaphelix,  that is for cosmic not for bionic20:44
phelixioria, what does this mean?20:45
ioriaphelix,  it's not a 18.04 kernel20:45
phelixI should upgrade my kernel?20:46
ioriaphelix, you should boot a 4.15 kern20:46
phelixok let me try that.20:47
iosecureioria: That's not necessarily true.20:49
ioriaiosecure, what ? you mean -proposed ?20:50
iosecureNo.20:50
iosecurelinux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 in bionic-updates is 4.18.0-13.20:50
ioriaiosecure,in feb 2019 ?20:50
iosecureSo that kernel version is most definitely available on 18.04.20:50
iosecureRight now.20:51
ioria!info  linux-image-generic-hwe-18.0420:51
ubottulinux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 (source: linux-meta-hwe): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.18.0.13.63 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; s390x)20:51
OerHeksthat ALX driver might not match current kernel20:51
ioriaiosecure, you're right20:51
filifunk2test20:59
filifunk2Merry Christmas20:59
filifunk2I'm trying to fix an issue, I found a solution that says I should use 'sudo cp -avt...' How do I figure out what -avt is?21:01
iosecureman cp21:01
iosecureThe flags are documented.21:01
filifunk2ah thanks21:01
iosecureBut what issue are you trying to fix?21:01
filifunk2I am trying to figure out how to get the latest version of darktable21:02
filifunk2so I run sudo apt-get install darktable (not sure if that is correct) but I get an error when I do that21:02
iosecureWhat error?21:02
filifunk2 dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."21:03
iosecureDid you run the recommended command?21:03
filifunk2I run that and it stops after telling me something about how mysql is already installed and I can force it...but it just gets stuck21:03
filifunk2going to try again so I can get the actual text for you21:04
filifunk2This installation of MySQL is already upgraded to 5.7.24, use --force if you still need to run mysql_upgrade21:04
filifunk2it gets stuck there21:04
iosecureHow large is the existing database?21:05
filifunk2I don't know, but it is possible that I may be running out of space...if that's what you're getting at21:06
iosecuremysql_upgrade can take a while on large databases.21:06
filifunk2ahh ok, I can just run it then go do something else21:06
filifunk2wish there were a way to see what its doing as its doing it21:07
cdevidalHow do I prevent postfix from logging every email to /var/log/syslog?21:31
alt0idHELP UBUNTU PEOPLE! i've installed irssi using the apt-get install irssi and used my classy password21:35
alt0idFaGGoT to let it through and around :: monday night in my room irssi completely broke and21:35
alt0idit started spamming colored letters, how do i fix it?21:35
leftyfb!op | alt0id21:36
ubottualt0id: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax21:36
leftyfbcdevidal: turn off logging21:37
cdevidalleftyfb: I do want logging, just to a different file21:37
cdevidalleftyfb: I think I found the answer https://serverfault.com/questions/514540/how-do-i-stop-postfix-log-info-going-into-syslog21:46
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bray90820Now that ubuntu touch is gone what is a good desktop interface to run on 7 inch tablets22:02
GoopSimonNL, RE: "wasn't that hard to find" I have already looked at that question, and the answer no longer works, as it is a heavily outdated fix. It no longer works on the current version of Thunderbird.22:16
Kumoolbray90820: windows 822:17
bray90820Haha that's not ubuntu22:17
bray90820And not even runable on the raspberry pi anyways22:17
OerHeks raspberian or that mate version22:18
JesuwopeWhat is the best and most unfailing IRC Identd program?22:21
Jesuwope(For Ubuntu)22:21
bindioidentd22:21
Jesuwopethanks22:21
Jesuwope:)22:21
JesuwopeMerry Christmas and Happy New Year.22:22
phelixmy ethernet quit working on my machine. Having a really hard time trying to figure out what could have happened. Anyone able to help?22:41
BuliarousTry   “ip a” and see if you have an eth interface?22:43
phelixwow I finally figured it out.. thanks though22:45
carrot_Hi I'm new to ubuntu OS and just installed 18.04 on my Inspiron-15-7000-Gaming laptop but it's not detecting my external monitor. Is this a common glitch?22:54
guiverccarrot_, i don't use gnome sorry, but i'd suggest opening 'display'  & ensure the screen isn't turned (ie. 'use this display')23:03
OerHekscarrot_, perhaps it is a FN + external monitor issue23:03
OerHeksfn+f823:04
carrot_I haven't had any issues with my external monitor working on my laptop that ran windows.23:06
ryuocarrot_: Poke around in whatever your flavor uses for display management. (or xrandr if you're adventurous)23:08
ryuocarrot_: if other monitors are detected, they may not be used by default.23:08
carrot_I checked the display settings and built in display option is turned on and faded out.23:10
ryuocarrot_: is the monitor powered on and plugged in?23:11
ryuohm.23:11
carrot_lol yes..23:11
ryuorun this command in a terminal and give us the url please: xrandr | pastebinit23:11
carrot_ok23:12
tonytthe turkey is done lol https://i.imgur.com/RuVdn6p.jpg23:16
TJ-tonyt: there is no need to spam every channel with that23:16
carrot_https://pastebin.com/embed_iframe/6pWapAi5  -- I hope  I have this right?23:17
ryuoInteresting. It's not even detectign anything on the external port.23:18
ryuoDP-1 shows as disconnected.23:18
ryuoeDP-1 is the internal display.23:18
TJ-ryuo: carrot_ dual GPUs maybe?23:19
ryuoyes, probably a dual GPU issue.23:19
ryuocarrot_: what's your GPU? nvidia?23:20
carrot_yes23:20
ryuodid you already install the nvidia proprietary drivers?23:20
carrot_I installed the recommended drivers, yes23:20
carrot_nvidia-driver-41523:21
ryuonot fun... dual gpus...23:21
carrot_Is their another linux OS that can work with dual gpu?  I got this laptop due it being compatible with linux.23:25
carrot_* there23:25
myselfcarrot_: just to doublecheck, do you have any other monitors or cables to try, or any other computers to try that monitor with? Sometimes something as dumb as a bent or dirty pin can prevent the i2c DDC channel from coming up, and the monitor won't be detected23:29
myselfI don't know the first thing about dual GPUs, but I've had all sorts of terrible cables :P23:30
xerox123ubuntu 18.04, running xfce4, the shutdown/suspend buttons only log my out and not actually shutdown/suspend my system?23:30
xerox123me out*23:31
xerox123been googling this for days, only ending at incomplete forum threads, any help is appreciated, thanks!23:31
carrot_myself: I'm checking that right now.23:31
blackbird1Hi, I have Windows installes on /dev/sda and Ubuntu on /dev/sdb. But grub detect only Ubuntu. How to make grub detect both of OSs ?23:37
NerdTheThirdtry this and restart `grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg`23:39
NerdTheThirdblackbird123:40
carrot_myself: My external monitor works just fine on my samsung laptop running Windows 10.23:41
carrot_I'm using a HDMI cable.23:41
blackbird1NerdTheThird: Each OS is in seperate hard derive23:42
TJ-carrot_: Have you suspended/resumed the PC since last boot?23:43
carrot_i may have suspended it last night.23:44
blackbird1!paste23:46
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:46
blackbird1NerdTheThird: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S7r5V7MZKV/23:47
NerdTheThirdidk then tbh. it should find windows anyways23:47
pnwiseAnyone complained recently videos not playing in 18.04?23:47
pnwiseI mean sites like youtube23:48
NerdTheThirdif nothing, enter bios and change drive boot order23:48
pnwiseIt is buffering, but is not playing, none of the web videos, even 9gag gifs23:48
pnwiseso strange, it happen the other night in the middle of watching some youtube video23:48
blackbird1pnwise: for me no video play issues.23:48
TJ-carrot_: The reason I ask is we have seen issues around monitor detection due to the PC's firmware ACPI. There are 3 possibilities which you can test: 1) after a cold boot does the monitor show up? 2) if not, do a supend/resume and check again 3) add an acpi_osi option to kernel command line. See http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html23:50
carrot_TJ : I'll try those steps thanks!23:54
TJ-carrot_: I know of at least 2 users that found the acpi_osi workaround fixed it23:55
carrot_ok! Thanks again!23:55
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