[00:01] <cryptodan_mobile> Hi tatertots
[00:05] <tatertots> hi cryptodan_mobile
[00:21] <IniGit> hi
[00:23] <IniGit> I have 2 drives with Ubuntu on it and each drive has it's own Grub on purpose (I want it like that). Now the most recent grub is used and I cannot make it work to switch to the old one. I want to be able to select which one should be used whenever I want. How do I achieve that?
[00:23] <IniGit> Which command do I need to use?
[00:24] <IniGit> I tried efibootmgr -c and recreated an entry for the old grub, but it doesent boot into it when I change the order such that it should boot first
[00:24] <cryptodan_mobile> Turn one drive off
[00:24] <IniGit> I don't want that since the pc is bound to the wall
[00:24] <IniGit> That's much effort
[00:24] <OerHeks> 2 grubs on uefi ... interesting
[00:24] <IniGit> Is there no command to tell the BIOS hey this is the grub you should use
[00:25] <IniGit> yeah I want it like that
[00:25] <cryptodan_mobile> No
[00:25] <IniGit> but I want to be able to select which one the BIOS should use
[00:25] <IniGit> damn
[00:25] <IniGit> are you sure?
[00:25] <IniGit> How does the Ubuntu installer tell the BIOS that the most recent one should be used?
[00:25] <Platonides> efibootmgr should be able to select the entry to use on boot
[00:26] <cryptodan_mobile> You cant unless you go into the bios and tell which boot drive in the uefi menu to select
[00:26] <IniGit> ok then I assume my created entry does not function correctly
[00:26] <Platonides> some EFI firmware is quite... stubborn
[00:26] <tatertots> you haven't bothered to test it
[00:26] <IniGit> I logged into the old system and did efibootmgr -c
[00:26] <Platonides> but in theory it can choose that
[00:26] <iosecure> IniGit: So, you have two EFI system partitions?
[00:26] <IniGit> And put it first on the order
[00:27] <cryptodan_mobile> IniGit: go into bios and change it there in the efi boot menu
[00:27] <IniGit> yes on 2 different drives
[00:27] <iosecure> Don't do that.
[00:27] <IniGit> I changed it to the old one, but it boots into the new grub
[00:27] <iosecure> That's known to cause issues with UEFI implementations.
[00:27] <IniGit> so I assume efibootmgr -c did not create the right entry
[00:28] <iosecure> You're the second person in here today with this exact same issue, for the exact same reason.
[00:28] <IniGit> :)
[00:29] <IniGit> how do I actually find out which partition this UUID is from? I tried sgdisk, but I couldn't find it:
[00:29] <IniGit> Boot0000* ubuntu HD(2,GPT,94cace0a-786b-42f1-8424-720b29ffa518,0xe1800,0x32000)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)
[00:29] <IniGit> this is the working one
[00:29] <cryptodan_mobile> The number I assume after hd(2
[00:30] <AndyChow888> 94cace0a-786b-42f1-8424-720b29ffa518 is the UUID. If you want to find out which drive that is, run lsblk or blkid.
[00:31] <IniGit> I found it via sudo blkid | grep fa518
[00:31] <IniGit> this entry is the one that does not work correctly:
[00:31] <IniGit> Boot0001* Linux HD(1,GPT,b8646c21-a878-4de5-8bdc-2a69fcc6a463,0x800,0xe1000)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\grub.efi)
[00:32] <IniGit> any idea?
[00:33] <IniGit> lol
[00:33] <IniGit> efibootmgr -c actucally created an entry linking to my windows partition
[00:33] <IniGit> that must be a bug
[00:33] <IniGit> /dev/sda1: LABEL="Wiederherstellung" UUID="288055D68055AB58" TYPE="ntfs" PARTLABEL="Basic data partition" PARTUUID="b8646c21-a878-4de5-8bdc-2a69fcc6a463"
[00:33] <Platonides> mainly complain to the provider of your firmware...
[00:34] <iosecure> blah blah words blah don't have two ESPs on one system.
[00:34] <IniGit> which motherboards actually do not use Intel firmware? Is there anything with AMD firmware or so?
[00:35] <IniGit> I also could try to create the entry manually via efibootmgr -c
[00:36] <iosecure> It's not intel or AMD. It's the motherboard manufacturer's implementation of the UEFI spec.
[00:36] <iosecure> And, spoiler alert, most of them suck at it.
[00:36] <IniGit> oh ok
[00:36] <IniGit> thank you
[00:36] <IniGit> I have a Gigabyte motherboard
[00:36] <IniGit> a old one
[00:36] <iosecure> They'll code the typical use cases, and ignore the edge cases. Having two ESPs is an example of an edge case that few of them handle well.
[00:37] <iosecure> By spec, having two ESPs, even on the same disk, is legal.
[00:38] <IniGit> Yeah but even IMO that doesen't make much sense
[00:38] <IniGit> :D
[00:38] <iosecure> Sure, but the spec says it's legal.
[00:38] <iosecure> Doesn't mean firmware or even other OSes tolerate it.
[00:48] <shmam> Trying to install `ffmpeg` but getting that it doesn't have an installation candidate. I found it online here so I'm not sure why I can't install it on 18.04 https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/ffmpeg
[00:51] <OerHeks> part of the universe repo, see if you have that enabled
[00:51] <tatertots> shmam: ffmpeg is in the default repos..have you selected a local mirror and all that jazz
[00:51] <shmam> Whoops, I'm dumb. Forgot this was a fresh aws instance. Just needed an apt update
[01:48] <eraserpencil_> i give up and I'm gonna ask for help. Trying something less noob-friendly and am installing an ubuntu server  on my laptop alongside windows. Windows 10 is now on a SATA drive while im intending for Ubuntu to be on an NVME drive. I'm tripping up at the section on where to install grub. Do i add it to MBR? Also which drive should I have it on. I've been trying different configs but nothing works.
[01:49] <eraserpencil_> I'm expecting the grub screen of Ubuntu at the press of the power button with Windows boot manager as an option. Are my expectations too high?
[01:57] <AndyChow888> eraserpencil_, best to install it on the NVME. You shouldn't have to choose the MBR, it should find it itself, and if it detects another os, the behavior should be as you stated.
[01:58] <cryptodan_mobile> It would be nvme*p1
[02:01] <eraserpencil_> it did not detech the windows partition on the sata drive
[02:16] <badSophia> i can’t install vim now?
[02:16] <tomreyn> only between 9 am and  5 pm.
[02:17] <badSophia> :(
[02:17] <tomreyn> just kidding, what, s the problem?
[02:17] <badSophia> has no installation candidate
[02:17] <badSophia> :(
[02:18] <tomreyn> what's the command you're running?
[02:18] <badSophia> sudo apt-get install vim
[02:18] <eraserpencil_> AndyChow888, so i do not add to mbr? do i need to turn on the bootable flag for the partition on the nvme drive?
[02:18] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version is it? (run lsb_release -ds)
[02:18] <badSophia> :(
[02:19] <badSophia> command run not found :(
[02:19] <AndyChow888> eraserpencil_, when installing ubuntu server on the nvme, it should handle it automatically.
[02:19] <badSophia> tomaw: what’s wrong?
[02:20] <AndyChow888> badSophia, if you do "sudo apt update", does it work?
[02:20] <badSophia> i will try it
[02:23] <tomreyn> badSophia: run this: sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:27] <badSophia> AndyChow888: :(
[02:27] <badSophia> i did it without internet connection
[02:27] <badSophia> but after connecting internet i did it :)
[02:27] <AndyChow888> Ok. So now it should work.
[02:27] <badSophia> thanks AndyChow888 and tomreyn
[02:29] <tomreyn> yeay :)
[02:30] <tomreyn> badSophia: so vim installed fine, too?
[02:30] <badSophia> tomreyn: yeah i installed it after update
[02:30] <badSophia> :)
[02:31] <eraserpencil_> andychow888, i know you said the installer will take care of it, but it's not happening
[02:39] <iosecure> eraserpencil_: You're running Windows 10. That means you don't have an MBR.
[02:39] <iosecure> Well, technically you do, but... That's a deeper discussion.
[02:39] <iosecure> The point is that you'll be using UEFI to boot Ubuntu.
[02:42] <eraserpencil_> yea I had to turn on "allow legacy ROM" in the bios to get a installer working on my display
[02:42] <iosecure> That means you're mixing boot modes. That's NOT going to go well.
[02:42] <eraserpencil_> but I chose installing the grub in nvme drive.
[02:42] <eraserpencil_> it is not going well. I can confirm that
[02:43] <iosecure> Yeah, legacy BIOS means it's trying to write bootcode to the post-MBR gap, which isn't usable in GPT, which is what UEFI uses.
[02:43] <iosecure> The required partition to support BIOS booting from GPT doesn't exist. You need to use UEFI.
[02:44] <eraserpencil_> So...i am using UEFI, but have "allow legacy ROMs" enabled...otherwise I cant see the cli
[02:44] <iosecure> You're in the installer, right?
[02:46] <eraserpencil_> what i just said were settings in bios
[02:46] <iosecure> I get that. -.-
[02:46] <iosecure> Are you in the installer NOW?
[02:46] <eraserpencil_> nope
[02:47] <iosecure> Well, let me know when you are.
[02:48] <eraserpencil_> ok
[02:48] <eraserpencil_> i am in
[02:49] <iosecure> And you've booted it the same way you have been?
[02:49] <eraserpencil_> yes
[02:49] <iosecure> Switch to another tty. 'stat /sys/firmware/efi' - what's the result?
[02:52] <eraserpencil_> im not in the gui installer..
[02:52] <iosecure> No one said you were. Ctrl+Alt+F2.
[02:53] <eraserpencil_> that dosent work for me
[02:53] <tomreyn> eraserpencil_: you seem to have lost all motivation since it didn'T work out the first time. giveit another try, though, iosecure knows how to do it and i'm sure you two can work it out quickly if you can motivate yourself a bit more. if you don't know how to do something, just ask.
[02:53] <iosecure> eraserpencil_: Which installer image are you using?
[02:54] <eraserpencil_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/919940/installation-of-ubuntu-16-04-usb-live-section?rq=1
[02:54] <iosecure> Because I don't know of any Ubuntu installer image since Ubuntu existed that doesn't support multiple TTYs.
[02:54] <iosecure> That's not an image. That's a link to forums.
[02:54] <eraserpencil_> yea, that qn has the picture of what im having
[02:54] <iosecure> You haven't booted into the installer yet.
[02:55] <iosecure> That's basically grub.
[02:55] <iosecure> So choose the first option.
[02:55] <eraserpencil_> tomreyn, thanks! would really love to figure out multi disks setup
[02:55] <iosecure> Now, that said, if that's what you're seeing, you are NOT booting in UEFI mode, and you already have a problem.
[02:57] <eraserpencil_> iosecure, now this is tricky... if i disabled "legacy ROM" i have installer screen that's 5x5 cm
[02:57] <tomreyn> IIRC eraserpencil_ said that booting ubuntu in uefi moode provided no video output. which is probably why they have not changed back to uefi booting
[02:57] <iosecure> Unfortunately, legacy boot is not an option given the current constraints.
[02:58] <iosecure> To properly coexist with Windows 10, UEFI boot/install is required.
[02:58] <eraserpencil_> i hate windows so much...
[02:58] <iosecure> This isn't a Windows issue.
[02:59] <eraserpencil_> okay I'm in BIOS now..
[02:59] <iosecure> To properly coexist with ANY operating system that boots via UEFI, you need to install the other OSes the same way.
[02:59] <eraserpencil_> boot list option: UEFI, secureboot: disabled, legacy option rom: enabled, attempt legacy boot: disabled
[03:01] <iosecure> I'm uncertain why the legacy option ROM setting changes this. But that boot screen is definitely NOT UEFI.
[03:04] <eraserpencil_> I am in uefi installer now
[03:04] <eraserpencil_> do i choose the hwe kernel option or the one without
[03:06] <tomreyn> eraserpencil_: before you proceed: why are you installing ubuntu server rather than desktop next to your windows desktop? would it not make more sense to assume you want to switch between desktops by multi.booting?
[03:06] <tomreyn> eraserpencil_: and another questions: why 16.04 rather than 18.04 or 18.10?
[03:06] <cryptodan_mobile> iosecure: I had windows 10 using mbr nonefi for boot
[03:07] <eraserpencil_> just trying to learn more things i dont understand about linux.
[03:07] <tomreyn> cryptodan_mobile: yes apparently you can do either BIOS + MBR or UEFI + GPT with windows (and nothing else)
[03:08] <eraserpencil_> i have this screen now
[03:08] <eraserpencil_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/970368/black-screen-when-uefi-installing-ubuntu-server-16-04-on-gtx-1060-laptop
[03:09] <tomreyn> eraserpencil_: have you considered running one of the two in a VM, or using WSL? personally i couldn't imagine myself multi-booting between a desktpo and text based server OS on my main computer, I would just not ever boot to the server one.
[03:09] <tomreyn> !wsl
[03:09] <cryptodan_mobile> eraserpencil: use the recovery part of the installer and edit /etc/default/grub sns remove quiet splash and update grub.
[03:10] <tomreyn> cryptodan_mobile: ubuntu is not installed, yet
[03:12] <tomreyn> eraserpencil_: i'm not trying to convince you to do otherwise, just trying to understand your choices, and to make sure that the effort spent here will actually pay off for you.
[03:12] <fleabeard> hi all, I've got the latest stable ubuntu server os installed and have a Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02)
[03:12] <fleabeard>  that is only sending/receiving in 100mbs mode. Any way I can force it to communicate in 1000mbs mode instead?
[03:13] <tomreyn> fleabeard: can you get us the numbers in square brackets from "lspci -nn" for this one?
[03:14] <tomreyn> fleabeard: alsowhich ubuntu version?
[03:14] <fleabeard> tomreyn, ubuntu version 4.15.0-43-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 6 14:45:28 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:15] <tomreyn> fleabeard: ok, that's your kernel version, which is relevant, but i was more looking for your ubuntu release: lsb_release -ds
[03:15] <fleabeard> tomreyn, output from lspci -nn : Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network                                                                                                  Connection [8086:10bd] (rev 02)
[03:16] <tomreyn> what is on the other end of the ethernet wire?
[03:17] <fleabeard> tomreyn, the router, it's a TP-Link Archer C9 Gigabit capable router
[03:17] <eraserpencil_> haha perhaps i am overly ambitious than what my skillset/knowledge allows. quite interested in a total cli experience from installation to i3, to cli irc...basically any and everything except mail and browser
[03:19] <eraserpencil_> i think ill try the desktop installer see how it's done and try the cli installer again
[03:20] <tomreyn> fleabeard: have you run ethtool or mii-tool against it to see whether ti claims to support GbE?
[03:20] <fleabeard> tomreyn, nope, I'll do that now and let you know
[03:20] <tomreyn> show "Supported link modes"
[03:21] <tomreyn> + "Advertised link modes"
[03:21] <cryptodan_mobile> Is the port you are plugged into on router setup for gige
[03:22] <fleabeard> tomreyn, when running: sudo ethtool eth0 it says it cannot get device settings, etc because "No such device" ?
[03:22] <tomreyn> fleabeard: "ip link" lists your devices, it is probably named differently
[03:23] <fleabeard> gotcha
[03:23] <fleabeard> is there a preferred text pasting site I can link to for you?
[03:23] <fleabeard> I ran lshw -C network and it reports that size: 100Mbit/s and capacity: 1Gbit/s fwiw
[03:24] <tomreyn> cryptodan_mobile: according to the vendor website, all of the routers' four yellow RJ-45 LAN ports support GbE
[03:24] <tomreyn> !paste | fleabeard
[03:24] <fleabeard> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H6CxkPtNpk/
[03:25] <cryptodan_mobile> On mine I can config them to use 10, 100, and 1000 along with auto
[03:25] <fleabeard> tomreyn, here is my lshw output as well > https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FP89H6D8n5/
[03:25] <tomreyn> fleabeard: what does it say if you: sudo ethtool -s enp0s25 speed 1000 duplex full
[03:26] <fleabeard> tomreyn, I ran that, just waiting for the terminal to respond (I'm ssh'd in)
[03:27] <tomreyn> oh, so your connection dropped
[03:27] <tomreyn> i wasn't aware you were doing this remotely over network
[03:27] <fleabeard> hah np
[03:28] <fleabeard> I'm trying to reconnect, but it seems unresponsive, I'll go check on it in the other room real quick
[03:29] <tomreyn> fleabeard: also, i think you didnt tell us your ubuntu release, yet: lsb_release -ds
[03:31] <fleabeard> tomreyn, I think that may have worked, though for some reason it's only issuing ipv6 addresses now instead of ipv4 :(
[03:31] <tomreyn> fleabeard: ipv6 or mac address?
[03:31] <fleabeard> tomreyn, it says inet6
[03:32] <tomreyn> can you connect somewhere?
[03:32] <fleabeard> tomreyn, I'm not sure if putty allows for ipv6 ssh connections
[03:33] <tomreyn> You should input the IPv6 address between brackets, like this: [2001:14c0:2:2f6f::6]
[03:35] <tomreyn> putty supports ipv6 since v0.58
[03:36] <tomreyn> (released in 2004-12-31)
[03:39] <fleabeard> tomreyn, sorry, I'm really struggling to get this to connect remotely, lol
[03:39] <fleabeard> and as fate would have it, the wife is watching NetFlix on the TV that this box is connected too
[03:40] <tomreyn> fleabeard: no worries ;-)
[03:40] <WoC> Any particular Desktop Environment (DE) better suited for multiple monitor setup?
[03:40] <tomreyn> eraserpencil_: good luck there witht he desktop installer, come back if you need any help with it.
[03:41] <tomreyn> WoC: i'd go with the latest default ubuntu
[03:41] <fleabeard> tomreyn, I may have to do this at the machine. Can you advise on what my next steps would be? My old eyes can't make out this damn near hexadecimal ipv6 address xD
[03:42] <tomreyn> fleabeard: do what exactly?
[03:42] <fleabeard> tomreyn, like, is there a way to have it use ipv4 over ipv6?
[03:42] <tomreyn> fleabeard: "the machine" is the remote system you lost connectivity to?
[03:42] <fleabeard> tomreyn, correct, sorry for not clarifying
[03:42] <WoC> tomreyn, k, not sure which one is default, is that the Wayland or the non Wayland ?
[03:42] <tomreyn> WoC: non-wayland if you'Re running a supported ubuntu version
[03:43] <WoC> ok, ty :)
[03:43] <fleabeard> tomreyn, I'm guessing I'd have to blacklist the kernel module for ipv6 to get around this?
[03:43] <WoC> Right now i use LXQT, but it doesnt seem to save main-screen etc
[03:43] <tomreyn> fleabeard: i might be able to answer this if i knew the ubuntu version you run there
[03:44] <fleabeard> tomreyn, sorry, I just downloaded the latest one tonight and installed it.
[03:44] <fleabeard> tomreyn, it's Ubuntu Server 18.04.1 LTS
[03:44] <tomreyn> the latest stable release is ubuntu 18.10
[03:44] <tomreyn> okay
[03:44] <fleabeard> meant LTS, not lates :S
[03:44] <fleabeard> been a long day, lol
[03:45] <fleabeard> s/lates/latest
[03:46] <tomreyn> fleabeard: "sudoedit /etc/gai.conf" and remove the # infront of the "precedence ::ffff:0:0/96  100" line (100, not 10!)
[03:47] <eraserpencil_> whats the state on drivers for nvidia gpus? do i use nouveau drivers, nvidia prime or bumblebee
[03:48] <sgian> hi all..a longtime linux fan, but not very advanced...have to split my focus for work..
[03:49] <tomreyn> eraserpencil_: my (rather limited) understanding of the nvidia world is that you most likely want to use the proprietary nvidia drivers, and nvidia prime (but i may well be wrong there).
[03:49] <sgian> anyone willing to help with installing authorized keys for automated backup via rsync?
[03:50] <tomreyn> WoC: i think you'll have more success with gnome 3 or kde4
[03:50] <tomreyn> * kde 5
[03:51] <fleabeard> tomreyn, thanks, that got us back on ipv4
[03:52] <fleabeard> tomreyn, we're still rocking @ 100mbit/s speeds though :/
[03:52] <tomreyn> fleabeard: nice, nice. you dont happen to have multiple NICs in there, maybe wireless, too?
[03:52] <fleabeard> tomreyn, nope, this is the only NIC (onboard) and no wifi adapters or anything of the sort
[03:53] <tomreyn> fleabeard: okay, i'm just asking because it'd be nice to have a wy to recover more easily without chasing away your wife and walking all the time if the connection will fail again
[03:53] <fleabeard> tomreyn, lol, no worries :)
[03:53] <tomreyn> remotely fixing network interfaces is ... not necessarily a good approach
[03:53] <tomreyn> that's unless you have out of band management
[03:53] <fleabeard> yeah, I liken it to washing my arse prior to washing my face :P
[03:54] <tomreyn> fleabeard: more details than i was looking for this time ;)
[03:54] <fleabeard> hah
[03:55] <tomreyn> fleabeard: so you want to keep on trying to make it do GbE remotely, with a good probability of it failing again?
[03:55] <fleabeard> tomreyn, of course!
[03:56] <fleabeard> she's not watching anything too important, Trailer Park Boys, so I don't feel as bad interrupting :)
[03:57] <tomreyn> fleabeard: umm, well. okay, let me do some reading. you can do, too. i suspect youmay want a firmware upgrade, installed to either the device itself or downloaded to ubuntu and placed somewhere in /lib/firmware
[03:58] <tomreyn> fleabeard: you could also try to make the NIC switch to 1GbE again, using the same command as before. maybe it'd work now thanks to ipv4 preference.
[03:58] <fleabeard> tomreyn, sure, lemme give that another go
[03:58] <tomreyn> fleabeard: if you'll do, be sure to run this command from within a screen or tmux session, though, so you'll be able to see the output
[03:58] <tomreyn> * GNU screen
[03:59] <eraserpencil_> thanks alot tomreyn
[03:59] <tomreyn> eraserpencil_: you're welcome!
[03:59] <cryptodan_mobile> tomreyn: you are spot on with nvidia comment above
[04:01] <tomreyn> sgian: hi there. not sure i can help you, since i'm working with fleabeard right now, but you can repeat the question later, also providing more details: what doesn't seem to be working when you do it as discribed on one of the surely many tutorials out there?
[04:01] <tomreyn> cryptodan_mobile: thanks.
[04:02] <tomreyn> eraserpencil_: cryptodan_mobile, a potential nvidia user, says what i said about nvidia is correct.
[04:02] <SlidingHorn> !details | sgian
[04:03] <tomreyn> !pm | sgian
[04:03] <sgian> trying to install rsa key on remote machine so that I can push incremental backups through rsync
[04:04] <sgian> created key, installed into .ssh/authorized_keys in home directry of user that I want to access..
[04:04] <eraserpencil_> haha, i can confirm that is good advice
[04:04] <fleabeard> tomreyn, ok, issued the command this time at the machine itself, there was no output but a quick 'ifconfig' showed it using ipv6 again, so I did a reboot and it's back to ipv4 @ 100Mbit/s
[04:05] <sgian> set permissions to 700 on remote .ssh folder, and 604 on authorized_keys...works, but still prompts for rsa passphrase?
[04:07] <sgian> worked through several tutorials, but same result...does anyone have a link that they can verify, and i'll do the homework?
[04:08] <fleabeard> tomreyn, if it's of any use to you, I just ran lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net and it's using Kernel driver e1000e
[04:09] <iosecure> sgian: Proper permissions for authorized_keys is 0644.
[04:10] <iosecure> sgian: The fact that it's prompting for a passphrase for your key means that your private key is encrypted. Has nothing to do with the public key on the other end.
[04:10] <WoC> ty tomreyn, appreciated && Merry Christmas
[04:12] <tomreyn> WoC: and to you, you'Re welcome!
[04:12] <iosecure> sgian: And please don't send me unsolicited private messages.
[04:12] <tomreyn> fleabeard: sorry, was reading...
[04:12] <fleabeard> tomreyn, same, lol np
[04:13] <iosecure> fleabeard: So you know, 'ifconfig' was deprecated like... a decade ago.
[04:13] <fleabeard> tomreyn, I'm seeing a lot of ppl saying to recompile the kernel with e1000 instead of the e1000e, which is way above my skillset, so I hope that isn't the fix for this lol
[04:13] <sgian> iosecure: ok, ok...sorry, new to irc...how do i address you without pming?
[04:13] <iosecure> You just did.
[04:13] <tomreyn> fleabeard: good. :) i was actually wondfering whether you'Rd be using a custom compiled e1000 rather than the e1000e which comes with ubuntu (which you should eb using)
[04:13] <fleabeard> iosecure, good to know, I'm old school and haven't used linux in a very long time :)
[04:14] <sgian> iosecure: ok cool...that was just a guess
[04:14] <iosecure> fleabeard: Yeah, it was replaced with the iproute2 toolset. Check out the 'ip' command. 'ip addr' for example.
[04:14] <tomreyn> fleabeard: i see such posts from 10 years ago, did you spot a current one?
[04:14] <fleabeard> tomreyn, nah, these are all ancient as well and no solution given :(
[04:14] <sgian> iosecure: so i should recreate the key?
[04:14] <fleabeard> I was really hoping to just use ubuntu server for a plex media server instead of installing that hog called Windows 10 on it :(
[04:14] <iosecure> sgian: No.
[04:15] <iosecure> sgian: Its functioning properly. You could also remove the passphrase from the key, but that diminishes security.
[04:15] <iosecure> sgian: As anyone in possession of the keyfile can then use it.
[04:16] <tomreyn> fleabeard: have a look at dmesg -b, too, maybe paste it as well, it may have hints on why it didnt pick 1GbE in the first place
[04:16] <sgian> iosecure: so how do i automate rsync through cront?
[04:16] <sgian> iosecure: *cron
[04:17]  * sgian is felling dense
[04:17] <fleabeard> tomreyn, dmesg: invalid option -- 'b'
[04:17] <iosecure> sgian: Then yes, you'd want to remove the passphrase from the private key.
[04:17] <WoC> fleabeard, i'm running a plex server on my ubuntu, no issues
[04:17] <tomreyn> fleabeard: oh, right, sorry, i mixed this up with jounralctl. just "dmesg" then
[04:17] <iosecure> sgian: ssh-keygen -p -f /path/keyfile
[04:18] <iosecure> sgian: Enter the current passphrase, and when it asks for the new one, just press enter.
[04:18] <sgian> iosecure: and that will allow me to NOT broadcast my password?
[04:18] <WoC> fleabeard, but sometimes the startup gets messed up with plexmediaserver
[04:18] <tomreyn> WoC: i think plex is not the problem for fleabeard, just the network link speed should be higher
[04:18] <iosecure> sgian: When would you be broadcasting a password at all?
[04:18] <WoC> oh
[04:19] <fleabeard> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pZfvWwtMJ6/
[04:19] <sgian> iosecure: like sshpass or some other mechanism
[04:19] <tomreyn> fleabeard: ugh, i forgot you'Re using putty
[04:19] <iosecure> sgian: For automated usage, you'll want to use keys, not passwords, yes.
[04:20] <tomreyn> fleabeard: can you" dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999   # then copy + paste the url?
[04:20] <fleabeard> sure!
[04:20] <sgian> iosecure: or do I even need to do that, as I'm connecting through VPN?
[04:20] <iosecure> sgian: It's advised, yes.
[04:20] <fleabeard> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/vfuz
[04:21] <sgian> iosecure: thank you...let me give that a try...
[04:23] <fleabeard> tomreyn, just noticed something in that mess
[04:23] <fleabeard> it says link speed was downgraded by SmartSpeed
[04:23] <fleabeard> 10/100 speed: disabling TSO
[04:23] <fleabeard> it's the last few lines of that dmesg output
[04:24] <tomreyn> fleabeard: thanks. just a side note / observation: current (latest / 2014) mainboard bios for this system is A22 - you have A14 from 2009. update is at https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/drivers/driversdetails?driverId=2DWTY&osCode=WW1&productCode=optiplex-755
[04:24] <fleabeard> tomreyn, lmao, sheesh, told you I'm old school xD
[04:25] <fleabeard> I think I avoided it because I ran into issues with it not working in the past, but I'll give it another shot
[04:25] <tomreyn> fleabeard: those link speed downgrade messages are likely a result of us setting the link speed higher than autonegotiation allowed.
[04:27] <tomreyn> fleabeard: https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/sln171755/updating-the-dell-bios-in-linux-and-ubuntu-environments?lang=en
[04:28] <tomreyn> fleabeard: something else you could try about ethtool is to have it disable autonegotiation  and force it to 1GbE. might work, but mor elikely this will fail. but its worth a try.
[04:29] <fleabeard> tomreyn, I'll give that a try, I thought I saw something about that. Do you know how I would go about disabling that?
[04:29] <fleabeard> also, trying to locate an iso of the bios update, seems like the very much like .exe's :(
[04:29] <tomreyn> fleabeard: ethtool -s enp0s25 speed 1000 duplex full autoneg off
[04:31] <tomreyn> fleabeard: note this line on the second dell link i sent above "Note: the BIOS will end in an .EXE extension. Even though Linux can’t open it natively, it will be processed by the BIOS properly"
[04:32] <iosecure> fleabeard: Most BIOS update packages like that can be run from a FreeDOS environment.,
[04:34] <fleabeard> tomreyn, disabling auto negotiation didn't seem to work out for me :(
[04:36] <tomreyn> fleabeard: if you have another 1GbE device available, try setting up a link between the two instead. maybe it's actually the router that's causing the issues.
[04:37] <fleabeard> sadly, I think I'm gonna have to do the awful task of installing windows on this box so I can get that 1000Mbit/s speed I so desperately need for this project. I appreciate all your help though! It's getting late here and I've got a Christmas dinner to prepare tomorrow lol. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
[04:37] <sgian> iosecure:  crud...I rushed, it and now have to start all over again, methinks...I think I understand now, so thank you, you rock
[04:38] <tomreyn> fleabeard: a pity, good luck with this project and enjoy your dinner.
[04:39] <sgian> iosecure: i don't suppose you're a whiz with sonicwalls as well?...naw, I kid...thank you
[04:39] <iosecure> Depends on the question.
[04:39] <iosecure> But that would be offtopic here.
[04:40] <WoC> Lest ofc they are (tm) uBuntu ;)
[04:40] <sgian> specifically working in a highly-interfered rf environ, with a staggering amount of threat detections
[04:41] <sgian> thinking of just erecting a faraday cage around the facility..of course, i joke..
[04:43] <iosecure> I, too, have worked in a SCIF.
[04:43]  * sgian wishes  a good night to all, and to all, a good night
[04:43] <iosecure> Cheers, and Merry Christmas/Happy holidays.
[04:43] <sgian> iosecure: thank you again....appreciate it!
[05:00] <bleb> just curious, what license are ubuntu advantage ESM updates distributed under?
[05:00] <bleb> and like is there anything preventing someone from packaging them and distributing them for free?
[05:42] <zzw> hello
[05:47] <zzw> My computer is lenovo,i  have installed the ubuntu,but i can not boot the system,the screen is red and no words
[06:03] <pheni> hey i am on ubuntu 16.04.5 and am having trouble with mounting smb shares that used to work
[06:04] <pheni> `when i try to run umount -a this is the output
[06:04] <pheni> https://pastebin.com/1FCf0rLX
[06:05] <WoC> pheni, looks like you are trying to unmount all, on a running system
[06:06] <WoC> not just smb shares
[06:06] <pheni> ok, how can i diagnose the issue i have then? these smb shares used to mount
[06:06] <pheni> i have them properly conigured in my fstab
[06:06] <WoC> umount is to unmount
[06:07] <WoC> you can use something like umount -a -t smbfs
[06:07] <WoC> which would only unmount all smbfs
[06:07] <pheni> shit mount -a not unmount a
[06:08] <WoC> t mount -a -t smbfs
[06:08] <pheni> ok idk why it didnt mount on boot
[06:08] <WoC> try*
[06:08] <pheni> but they mounted now
[06:08] <pheni> let me reboot and see if they mount again
[06:08] <tomreyn> zzw: which ubuntu version did you install, and which exactl lenovo model is it?
[06:08] <WoC> should
[06:10] <tomreyn> zzw: here's an example for a specific model name: Lenovo ThinkPad T470p Laptop
[06:11] <zzw> i am sorry,my laptop is old version,g405s
[06:12] <WoC> wb pheni , all good?
[06:12] <pheni> WoC, idk what caused them to stop mounting, but its fixed now. sorry for the stupid question
[06:12] <pheni> yeah
[06:13] <pheni> ...its been a long day lol
[06:13] <WoC> No worries, Merry Christmas :)
[06:13] <pheni> merry christmas!
[06:13] <WoC> One of them days ?
[06:13] <tomreyn> zzw: okay, which ubuntu version?
[06:14] <zzw> 16.04 and 18.04
[06:14] <tomreyn> zzw: both did not boot properly?
[06:14] <zzw> tomreyn: yes,
[06:16] <WoC> zzw, dual booting ?
[06:17] <WoC> i.e. more than one os ?
[06:18] <tomreyn> zzw: did oyu say anything after "yes"? i got disconnected
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[06:19] <tomreyn> zzw: i assume the red screen is due to the nvidia graphics chipset this system has. https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/lenovo-g-series-laptops/lenovo-g405s-notebook/parts/PD028121 states this has an nvidia N14M-GE graphics chipset, marketed as GT 720M
[06:19] <zzw> no say more
[06:19] <tomreyn> WoC: thanks
[06:20] <WoC> np
[06:20] <zzw> WoC: only one system
[06:20] <tomreyn> !nomodeset | zzw: try this
[06:21] <zzw> thank you very much
[06:21] <zzw> all
[06:22] <tomreyn> zzw: also consider a bios upgrade if yours is old: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/de/en/products/LAPTOPS-AND-NETBOOKS/LENOVO-G-SERIES-LAPTOPS/LENOVO-G405S-NOTEBOOK/downloads/DS038577
[06:22] <zzw> my bios is v 3
[06:23] <tomreyn> okay, so nothing to do there
[06:23] <tomreyn> !pm | zzw
[06:24] <zzw> ok
[06:25] <zzw> my cpu and graphic cards are amd
[06:26] <tomreyn> zzw: hmm then i guess lenovos online documentation must be wrong / misleading.
[06:26] <zzw> i go to try the nomodest,thank you all
[06:27] <zzw> i will be back later
[06:27] <tomreyn> zzw: if it wont work, then run the live / installer system from usb again and post the output of these commands:
[06:28] <tomreyn> zzw: sudo lspci -knn; sudo lsusb
[06:28] <zzw> ok
[06:28] <tomreyn> (post them to https://paste.ubuntu.com)
[06:28] <tomreyn> but note down the URLs
[06:29] <zzw> yes
[06:29] <tomreyn> https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/lenovo/g-series/g405s/ states it's an AMD CPU and AMD Radeon HD8570M graphics chipset
[06:38] <zzw> thank you tom
[06:41] <tomreyn> zzw: you're welcome. this is a "GCN (AMD "graphics core next generation") 1st (sub-)generation" graphics card. this subgeneration is codenames "southern islands". it may run with either the older radeon or the newer amdgpu driver. if one of them doesn't work well, you could try the other.
[06:42] <tomreyn> both are open source drivers which come with linux.
[06:43] <zzw> ok
[06:44] <tomreyn> the "nomodeset" options is known to help with nvidia graphics occasionally, but i'm not sure it will help you. what you can do is to boot into recovery, which can provide you with a text terminal where you can analyze the situation (maybe guided by here) and see if it can be fixed.
[06:45] <tomreyn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/150367/how-do-i-boot-into-recovery-mode#answers
[06:47] <zzw> ok
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> good morning and merry xmas to all
[07:12] <shaarad> good morning
[07:12] <shaarad> Happy Xmas to you too
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> tnx shaarad
[07:41] <Citizen-Se7en> Merry Christmas to all, and to all, a good night :)
[08:15] <CarlFK> https://github.com/mu-editor/mu/blob/master/debian/control  Depends: bunch of python packages. but the only repo I can find it in is: http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian wheezy
[08:15] <CarlFK> what's a sane way to get that package installed on ubuntu?
[08:23] <DarwinElf> I need a package's (nut) configuration files back.  I reinstalled it but then it didn't recreate /etc/nut
[08:25] <Intelo> Is there a free software that is close to adobe premier?
[08:27] <ducasse> Intelo: https://alternativeto.net/software/adobe-premiere-pro/?platform=linux
[08:31] <Intelo> ducasse,  whats the most popular?
[08:32] <ducasse> i don't really know, this is something i don't use myself, but kdenlive is the most talked about i think
[08:33] <Intelo> k
[08:34] <Intelo> ducasse,  whats the best one to record video and capture screen as well (for making youtube videos)
[08:34] <Intelo> Is there a problem with boya m1 mic and ubuntu?
[08:36] <ducasse> Intelo: i've no idea, sorry
[08:36] <Intelo> ducasse,  can kdenlive capture from cam?
[08:37] <ducasse> Intelo: as i said, i don't use it. try #kdenlive
[08:39] <CarlFK> intelo: I use http://shotcut.org
[08:40] <Intelo> thx
[08:58] <gnnbb> How do I prevent pulseaudio switching to new connected devices?(audio IF from PS4 controller etc.)
[10:00] <Net|> https://bootlin.com/blog/mali-opengl-support-on-allwinner-platforms-with-mainline-linux/
[10:10] <Goop> Hey, how do I go about starting Thunderbird minimized on my Ubuntu box?
[11:02] <SimonNL> Goop: https://askubuntu.com/questions/169437/how-to-start-thunderbird-minimized-on-start-up
[11:02] <SimonNL> wasn't that hard to find
[12:51] <nikre> what do i lose if i dont upgrade to 18.04 from 16.04 but upgrade kernel only?
[12:58] <EriC^^> nikre: newer programs and longer support time to name a few
[14:23] <DarwinElf> I need a package's (nut) configuration files back.  I reinstalled it but then it didn't recreate /etc/nut
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: does the manpage show anything usefull?
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: check also your /home for configs perhaps, with shown hidden folders
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: or what about /etc/default/nut ?
[14:30] <DarwinElf> no, it was in /etc/nut .  I messed it up, deleted it, then expected it to reappear after package deletion & reinstallation
[14:32] <DarwinElf> a proper package manager would always install configuration if the area is blank.  That's what installpkg and probably (BSD) pkg* do
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: did you install nut via apt?
[14:35] <DarwinElf> yes
[14:35] <DarwinElf> or apt-get
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: try man nut.conf
[14:42] <DarwinElf> i know how to use nut.  I just need the configuration files to be installed like they were originally
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: if you delete a file its gone, unless you try to recover it back with photorec
[14:43] <DarwinElf> they should be in the package.  Why aren't they in the package?
[14:44] <DarwinElf> i don't need my configuration, just the default and stuff like nut.conf.sample
[14:44] <DarwinElf> on better distributions than Debian-based, these are part of the package
[14:45] <DarwinElf> first time I installed it they were there.  Now after a reinstall they are not.  It seems something like a deletion log that prevents it from reinstalling configuration
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: did you reboot also?
[14:47] <DarwinElf> no
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: can these help? https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/tree/master/conf
[14:47] <DarwinElf> well, I did now, but I'm using other configuration
[14:47] <DarwinElf> i'm not sure.  It seems the problem was that is altered on some/all distributions
[14:47] <DarwinElf> otherwise I wouldn't be in this situation.  I just copied over my configuration from a strictly Unix-like distribution
[14:48] <DarwinElf> that didn't work, so I deleted it
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: your ubuntu version?
[14:49] <DarwinElf> 18.0.4
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> !info nut bionic
[14:50] <DarwinElf> you have to configure network UPS tools (nut) before running anyway, so it's not like there should've been some log a service was added & started then deleted but it was assuming you didn't delete /etc/nut
[14:50] <DarwinElf> i'll look for that
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: another idea could be, purge nut, then clean your system out with bleachbit, then reinstall nut and reboot, try again clean
[14:51] <DarwinElf> i'm not sure what all that is but am willing to learn about it
[14:51] <DarwinElf> it wasn't from a PPA; haven't heard of other types of purges
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: i wasnt talking about ppa, with purge i mean nut uninstall with apt
[14:53] <DarwinElf> oh, I might've done that originally
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: sudo apt purge nut?
[14:54] <DarwinElf> yeah, it's not like I know how to delete a Debian-based package otherwise
[14:54] <DarwinElf> i did 'apt remove nut'
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: apt remove keeps config files, purge not
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[14:58] <DarwinElf> ok. The problem still seems to be something sinister behind the scenes like systemd
[15:09] <craigbass76> I'm seeing the VU meter move when I pluck a string (running a guitar into a mixing board, which is coming in the Line-in jack) but I'm getting no sound. I am getting sound for other things, like youtube. There's a box unchecked or something, but I don't know where.
[15:09] <myself> VU meter on the mixing board, or in Sound / Input / Input Level ?
[15:11] <craigbass76> Sound input -- I just enabled Loopback in alsamixer, and that seems to have done the trick.
[15:11] <myself> Good stuff!
[15:12] <craigbass76> Not sure where that option is in a GUI anywhere... You seen it ever?
[15:19] <myself> I'm a total noob, no idea ;) but it's not obvious in my GUI..
[15:35] <cow0w> Hi:) any idea how to send Sysrq over telnet/screen? (sending like the keystrokes and not writing to the sysrq-trigger)
[15:36] <ducasse> cow0w: try writing the characters you want to send to /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
[15:37] <cow0w> without shell.. I want to send like the alt-printscreen key strokes. f.e to reboot hanging kernel
[15:38] <ducasse> not without a shell, no
[15:41] <cow0w> You say I can't emulate these keystrokes over a remote machine?;\
[15:41] <iosecure> It requires a shell.
[16:33] <Nomad_> Anyone good with Duplicity and excludes?
[16:51] <mDonchev_> Hello
[16:51] <mDonchev_> I'm trying to resurrect my old PC with an Asus motherboard with a built-in GeForce chipset and I've installed Ubuntu 18.04 ... it recognised everything but my graphic chipset. I've tried many instructions on the net but nothing.... it went down to 640x480 without any options on the Resolution dropdown. I would appreciate any help to make it work.
[16:53] <TJ-> mDonchev_: start with "lspci -nnk -d ::0300" to identify the device
[16:58] <mDonchev_> TJ-, VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a (Subsystem: ASUSTek Computer Inc.) ... Kernel modules: nvidiafb, nouveau
[17:03] <tonyt> Merry Christmas all
[17:05] <mDonchev_> TJ-, any idea how to proceed with that issue?
[17:06] <mDonchev_> Everything else is found and working ... wifi dongle ... everything...
[17:06] <mDonchev_> Should I reinstall Ubuntu 17.x ?
[17:06] <mDonchev_> I red somewhere that it will recognize the old nvidia 304 driver and will start working without an issue? Could this be a solution?
[17:07] <vlad_> anyone here use phoronix test suite? It seems like the whole thing is buggy, fails to install lots of files, etc.
[17:07] <leftyfb> mDonchev_: 17.x is EOLD and unsupported. No, you should not install either of them.
[17:08] <leftyfb> s/EOLD/EOL/
[17:09] <ioria> mDonchev_, can you paste   lspci -nnk   | nc termbin.com 9999   ?
[17:09] <mDonchev_> OK. How to fix my NVidia issue then? I really really want to use
[17:09] <mDonchev_> ok ... wait
[17:11] <ioria> mDonchev_, but i doubt you can use that card with gnome-shell ....
[17:11] <mDonchev_> 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C68 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] [10de:053e] (rev a2) {newline} Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. C68 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] [1043:8308]
[17:12] <ioria> mDonchev_, again ,   lspci -nnk   | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:13] <mDonchev_> https://termbin.com/awbv
[17:14] <mDonchev_> It's an old PC as I said earlier.
[17:15] <ioria> mDonchev_,   cat /proc/cmdline   (you can paste the line here)
[17:17] <mDonchev_> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-43-generic root=UUID=665ef274-aaf1-4bb2-9602-5260bab0bff6 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1
[17:18] <ioria> mDonchev_,   did you blacklist nouveau ?
[17:19] <mDonchev_> to be frank, from all the manuals that I've tested yesterday, I might have. Not an expert on the low level of linux so
[17:19] <mDonchev_> ...
[17:20] <mDonchev_> probably ... I did without understanding what I'm doing.
[17:20] <mojtaba> I have just deployed an Ubuntu machine, it shows '9 packages can be updated. 7 updates are security updates.' but when I run sudo apt-ge t update; sudo apt-get upgrade, nothing happens. Do you know what should I do?
[17:20] <mojtaba> When I log back in again, it shows me the same messages.
[17:20] <ioria> mDonchev_,   lsmod | grep -i nouveau
[17:21] <mDonchev_> did that ... no response ... just the prompt again.
[17:21] <ioria> mDonchev_,  lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-$(uname -r) | grep nouveau.ko
[17:23] <mDonchev_> lib/modules/4.15.0-43-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko
[17:24] <ioria> mDonchev_, ls /etc/modprobe.d/  | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:25] <mDonchev_> https://termbin.com/0mc5
[17:26] <TJ-> mojtaba: it's possible the MOTD that you see on log-in hasn't been updated
[17:26] <fleabeard> hello, anyone know why my gigabit onboard nic is only using 100 Mbps instead of 1000 Mbps? Using ubuntu server 18.04 LTS. The onboard NIC in question is an Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02)
[17:26] <iosecure> Check the cable?
[17:27] <mojtaba> TJ-: thanks
[17:27] <ioria> mDonchev_, cat  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia-nouveau.conf  | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:28] <TJ-> mojtaba: the scripts are in /etc/update-motd.d/, you can update it manually with "sudo update-motd"
[17:28] <mDonchev_> https://termbin.com/puc6
[17:28] <mojtaba> TJ-: Thanks for your response and help.
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> fleabeard: join #ubuntu-server please
[17:29] <iosecure> fleabeard: Ignore him. -.-
[17:29] <ioria> mDonchev_, ok, and why did you blacklist nouvea ? there was a problem with it ?
[17:29] <iosecure> fleabeard: Anyway, the most common cause I've seen for that is a bad/damaged cable.
[17:30] <iosecure> fleabeard: Including leads not properly seated within the connector, or pulled free due to strain.
[17:30] <fleabeard> iosecure, I created the cable last night and for all I know it's working fine (cat6)
[17:30] <iosecure> fleabeard: Yeah, its happened to me, too. Try another cable if you have one handy?
[17:30] <fleabeard> iosecure, I've tried it with a purchased cat5e cable as well and have the same issue, sadly.
[17:31] <iosecure> fleabeard: Can you confirm that it's using the e1000e driver?
[17:32] <mDonchev_> ioria, When I first installed Ubuntu 18.04 it started on 1024x768 on a monitor that support 1280x1024 ... the dropdown for resolution on the settings was giving me options only up to 1024 so I tried to install the NVIDIA drivers in order to get the normal resolution on my monitor. So I started following several manuals on how to install nvidia.304 (my driver) on the system but obviously they didn't do anything except for me to end with
[17:32] <mDonchev_>  a 640x480 resolution (with no options on the dropdown on Settings) as well as probably messing up with the whole drivers field.
[17:32] <fleabeard> iosecure, yep, it's using e1000e, e1000e: enp0s25 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: Rx/Tx
[17:32] <ioria> mDonchev_, 18.04 by default does not support 304
[17:33] <iosecure> fleabeard: And the switch its connected to is a gig switch with the port set to autonegotiate?
[17:33] <mDonchev_> yes,
[17:33] <mDonchev_> is there a version (not much older than 18.04) that will support it by default?
[17:33] <ioria> mDonchev_, we can try with a ppa ,or install 16.04
[17:33] <mDonchev_> I'm wishing to resintall the ... ok... so 16.04 is not much older (I assume 2016???)
[17:33] <mDonchev_> what I will lose when I go back to 16.04 ?
[17:33] <leftyfb> fleabeard: what is it plugged into?
[17:34] <ioria> mDonchev_, for now, paste  dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:34] <iosecure> leftyfb: Good point, I assumed it was a switch.
[17:34] <fleabeard> iosecure, yep, as far as I know, it's a TP-Link Archer C9 gigabit router. I believe all ports support gigabit connectivity
[17:34] <mDonchev_> https://termbin.com/y8am
[17:35] <iosecure> fleabeard: Log on to the router's interface and confirm port configuration. That's all I can think of outside of hardware or media faults.
[17:35] <ioria> mDonchev_, 396 ?
[17:36] <mDonchev_> what is 396?
[17:36] <ioria> mDonchev_, your ppa nvidia version driver; you already tried the ppa, i guess
[17:36] <mDonchev_> I think I did that yesterday
[17:37] <ioria> mDonchev_, and it's broken;  sudo apt purge nvidia*     and sudo apr autoremove --purge
[17:37] <jpmh> I have just  tried to install fail2ban on 16.4 - apt-get shows all is good - and indeed it is running - BUT there is no jail.conf file - what happened, it has always been there in previous versions?
[17:39] <mDonchev_> ioria, OK... this is done.
[17:39] <jpmh> and I should add, that if I copy the jal.conf file from my old system then there are errors that cause the start to fail
[17:39] <ioria> mDonchev_,   dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:40] <mDonchev_> https://termbin.com/ou06
[17:40] <ioria> mDonchev_, sudo apt purge libnvidia*
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> DarwinElf: did you fix the nut issue?
[17:42] <mDonchev_> ioria, OK. This removed a bunch of stuff
[17:42] <ioria> mDonchev_, sudo apt purge xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-396
[17:43] <mDonchev_> it said package "xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-396" is not installed, so not removed
[17:43] <ioria> mDonchev_,   sudo apt autoremove --purge
[17:44] <mDonchev_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[17:44] <ioria> mDonchev_,   dpkg -l | grep nvidia     is empty now ?
[17:45] <mDonchev_> it found libnvidia-compute-396:i386, 396.54-0ubuntu0~gpu18.04.1
[17:45] <ioria> mDonchev_,   dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:47] <mDonchev_> https://termbin.com/2fjr
[17:47] <ioria> mDonchev_, sudo apt purge libnvidia-compute-396:i386
[17:48] <mDonchev_> ok . done.
[17:48] <mDonchev_> removed it.
[17:49] <ioria> mDonchev_, so with nouveau we were unable to set the correct resolution ?
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> jpmh: update your system to latest please
[17:49] <mDonchev_> it was 1024x768
[17:49] <mDonchev_> and the monitor supports 1280x1024
[17:50] <ioria> mDonchev_,   ubuntu-drivers list | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:50] <jpmh> lotuspsychje: sadly - running under a container and the most recent LTS available is 16.4 - so not a choice
[17:50] <iosecure> 16.04 is still supported anyway.
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> jpmh: are you using version 0.9.3-1 ?
[17:50] <jpmh> lotuspsychje: and anyway, 16.4 should be fully supported
[17:51] <jpmh> lotuspsychje: how do I get the version frol fail2ban
[17:51] <iosecure> jpmh: 16.04 doesn't go EOL until April 2021. You're fine for a little while.
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> jpmh: apt-cache policy fail2ban
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> iosecure: i didnt say upgrade, i said update
[17:52] <iosecure> lotuspsychje: You were incredibly vague, actually.
[17:52] <jpmh> lotuspsychje:   Installed: 0.9.3-1
[17:52] <jpmh> lotus - by update - do you mean apt-get update - id so, done already
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> jpmh: wich kernel are you on xenial?
[17:53] <mDonchev_> ioria, it returns the prompt again without any termbin url
[17:53] <Gregor3000> what ISO to USB app should be used for 64 bit linux OS? is rufus the only one that can handle it?
[17:53] <ioria> mDonchev_,   run   ubuntu-drivers list    and paste the output on  paste.ubuntu.com
[17:53] <jpmh> lotuspsychje: 2.6.32-042stab133.2
[17:54] <mDonchev_> i'm typing from another computer ... give me a second :)
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> jpmh: what kind of kernel is that?
[17:54] <Gregor3000> would using a DVD instead solve the issue that gives error codes like: "Failed to load ldlinux.c32 or SYSLINUX: No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found"
[17:54] <mDonchev_> ioria, only one line: nvidia-304
[17:54] <iosecure> jpmh: OpenVZ.
[17:54] <iosecure> lotuspsychje: ^
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> Gregor3000: wich iso are you trying to burn?
[17:54] <iosecure> He did say it was a container.
[17:55] <jpmh> iosecure: yes
[17:55] <ioria> mDonchev_,   ok,  sudo updatedb    and     locate xorg.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:55] <ZeZu> Is there new compat. issue w/ the 18.10 iso and vbox 6.0 ?
[17:56] <ZeZu> It won't even boot into the livecd
[17:57] <Gregor3000> lotuspsychje: Kubuntu 18.04.1 64 bit. i so far used Yumi, Unetbootin, linuxliveusb creator, i checked the image and hashes match. so donwloaded image is good.
[17:57] <cryptodan_mobile> Gregor3000: try etcher or rufus in windows
[17:57] <mDonchev_> ioria, https://termbin.com/6dxm
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> Gregor3000: im always using the ubuntu disc creator like a charm
[17:58] <ioria> mDonchev_,   lsmod | grep -i nvidia    is empty ,right ?
[17:59] <mDonchev_> yes
[17:59] <ioria> mDonchev_,   is this a fresh install of 18.04 or an upgrade from xenial 16.04 ?
[18:00] <mDonchev_> fresh one
[18:00] <ioria> mDonchev_,   ok,  sudo apt install nvidia-304   and reboot
[18:00] <Gregor3000> ok rufus is not an option since it doesn't work on XP. or at least i need to move the image to a newer pc and do the burn there.
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> Gregor3000: universal usb installer works also nice from windows
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> !usb | Gregor3000
[18:01] <cryptodan_mobile> Gregor3000: how old is this machine?
[18:01] <iosecure> Gregor3000: Rufus 2.18 supported XP.
[18:02] <mDonchev_> ok ... a lot of error messages of unmet dependencies: xorg-video-abi-11 (to 23)
[18:02] <mDonchev_> this was the main problm when I started with installing the drivers.
[18:02] <mDonchev_> will I lose a lot if I move to 16.04 from 18.04 ?
[18:02] <ioria> mDonchev_,  yes, a bug i think
[18:02] <cryptodan_mobile> mDonchev_: what video card
[18:03] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-304/+bug/1737750
[18:03] <mDonchev_> integrated NVIDIA 7025 / nForce 630e
[18:03] <mDonchev_> an old ASUS motherboard
[18:04] <ioria> mDonchev_,  not been solved so far
[18:04] <mDonchev_> yes
[18:04] <mDonchev_> should I switch to 16.04 or try different linux distribution?
[18:04] <cryptodan_mobile> mDonchev_: you wont get support in new distros for that card you'd likely get better support under ubuntu 14.04
[18:05] <Gregor3000> cryptodan_mobile: about 14 years, but it was upgraded :-) single core 64bit AMD, 4GB ram, 2GB Nvidia gt730. the 16.04 was flying on it when i tested it on USB install back in summer.
[18:05] <mDonchev_> wow ... even 14.04 ? can I try 16.04 at least ... dont want to feel that old :)
[18:05] <mDonchev_> Gregor3000, are you sure?
[18:05] <ioria> mDonchev_, i'd try 16.04 (not 14.04)
[18:06] <mDonchev_> Gregor3000, 16.04 is my choice ?
[18:06] <mDonchev_> ioria, I'm downloading it now
[18:06] <cryptodan_mobile> 16.04 might be iffy mDonchev_
[18:06] <Gregor3000> iosecure: according to the forums on internet i would need to use the latest version to avoid this error. latest version does not work on XP (eventhough website says it does). it would not even launch
[18:06] <ioria> mDonchev_, wait ... i mean '16.04' not 16.04.xx
[18:07] <ioria> mDonchev_, the build issue is about the 4.15 kernel ....
[18:07] <mDonchev_> I just downloaded: ubuntu-16.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:07] <mDonchev_> is this good or ?
[18:07] <ioria> mDonchev_, mmmm
[18:07] <ioria> mDonchev_, it ships the same kernel
[18:08] <iosecure> Gregor3000: The latest version of Rufus doesn't support XP or Vista. The site says so.
[18:09] <coz_> etcher maybe
[18:09] <cryptodan_mobile> Gregor3000: use another PC to generate the image
[18:09] <Gregor3000> i guess i will have to use another PC. what if i used a DVD? would that work better?
[18:09] <mDonchev_> guys, should I try this image: ubuntu-16.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[18:09] <mDonchev_> or should I install something else?
[18:10] <coz_> Gregor3000, it should work, not better or worse
[18:10] <coz_> Gregor3000,  as long as the iso can be burned to disk
[18:11] <ioria> mDonchev_, i'd try 16.04 (not 16.04.x)
[18:11] <Gregor3000> mDonchev_ there are 16.04, 16.04.1, 16.04.2... 16.04.5. the first two won't uprade the kernel. others will upgrade kernel when you do an update.
[18:11] <mDonchev_> ok
[18:11] <mDonchev_> where I can download 16.04 (only) from?
[18:11] <ioria> mDonchev_, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.0/
[18:12] <jpmh> lotuspsychje: SO, are we stumped on the jail.conf installation issue - if so, thanks for trying to help me
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> jpmh: wich ubuntu version did it work previously?
[18:13] <jpmh> lotuspsychje: 14.4
[18:14] <mDonchev_> thank you guys
[18:14] <jpmh> lotuspsychje: and it IS working - I just can't configure it - it is almost like they changed something since, as I said, if I copy over the jail.conf file it fails
[18:14] <mDonchev_> I'm downloading and testing ...
[18:14] <mDonchev_> will get back to let you know ...
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> jpmh: https://upcloud.com/community/tutorials/install-fail2ban-ubuntu/
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> jpmh: did you setup liek this?
[18:15] <jpmh> lotuspsychje: I did the apt-get just as there and was planning to do the cp, but as I say, the file is not there
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> jpmh: did you reboot after install?
[18:18] <jpmh> lotuspsychje: did not re-boot - how would that bring a missing file into existence?
[18:18] <jpmh> lotuspsychje: I certainly can reboot if you think that it may help
[18:19] <coz_> give it a try
[18:19] <TJ-> jpmh: read "apt-get changelog fail2ban | grep -A 17 0.9.0+git48-gabcab00-1 "
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> jpmh: just as a test
[18:19] <jpmh> lotuspsychje: I will re-boot - and for what it is worth I did a find for jail.conf and did see: /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/fail2ban/tests/config/jail.conf
[18:21] <mDonchev_> ioria what I will lose when I move from 18.04 to 16.04 ?
[18:21] <cryptodan_mobile> Gregor3000: not likely
[18:21] <mDonchev_> what's the difference?
[18:21] <jpmh> TJ-: AHA - that is EXACTLY it - YEP - they deprecated the file
[18:21] <ioria> mDonchev_, 16.04 uses unity, 18.04 gnome-shell (3)
[18:22] <jpmh> TJ-: so how do I find the new instructions?
[18:22] <jpmh> lotuspsychje: I think, given TJ's comment and the fact that it does indeed say deprecated, I will skip the reboot
[18:22] <ioria> mDonchev_, sr, how much ram do you have ?
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> jpmh: kk
[18:28] <jpmh> TJ-: lotuspsychje: TY so much - reading: https://askubuntu.com/questions/783190/fail2ban-0-9-0-enabling-jails now
[18:32] <rkta> Hi, I just upgraded with do-release-upgrade to 18.04. After restart I can't resolve any url. Any hints where I should start looking?
[18:32] <mDonchev_> ioria: 2GB
[18:33] <iosecure> rkta: What's /etc/resolv.conf say?
[18:33] <ioria> mDonchev_, ok
[18:33] <mDonchev_> ioria, can you suggest any lighter linux distribution that will support that graphic card?
[18:33] <rkta> iosecure: nameserver 127.0.0.53
[18:33] <iosecure> rkta: Is systemd-resolved running?
[18:34] <ioria> mDonchev_, it's not about the distro... but xubuntu (or budgie) are very good
[18:35] <rkta> systemd-resolv --status gave me a list of somethings, dnssec, in-addr.arpa... no indication of not running
[18:35] <mDonchev_> ioria, can I find budgie on 16.04 ?
[18:36] <iosecure> rkta: Does it report which servers its using for resolution?
[18:36] <ioria> mDonchev_, nope
[18:37] <ioria> mDonchev_, you shoulduse a ppa
[18:37] <rkta> iosecure: I don't see anything that looks like a valid ip or non-local url
[18:37] <iosecure> rkta: Might be why. How are you configuring the interface?
[18:38] <rkta> iosecure: wicd-curses
[18:38] <iosecure> Then you might want to disable resolved and let wicd do what it used to do.
[18:40] <ioria> mDonchev_,  someone found a fix for 304 on 18.04 but it's a bit elaborated
[18:40] <rkta> iosecure: Just disable it with systemctl or is there more to do?
[18:40] <iosecure> Stop/disable it, and remove the symlink /etc/resolv.conf
[18:40] <iosecure> rkta: I'm not sure what wicd uses to write to resolv.conf, though. It might write directly.
[18:41] <rkta> k, will try
[18:41] <mDonchev_> ioria, where is that fix ..?
[18:41] <ioria> mDonchev_,  https://adufray.com/blog/2018/06/02/nvidia-304-127-on-bionic
[18:42] <mDonchev_> ioria, shall I try that before I go back to 16.04 ?
[18:42] <ioria> mDonchev_,  nope
[18:43] <mDonchev_> ioria, why?
[18:44] <ioria> mDonchev_,  have you ever installed nvidia from its website ?
[18:44] <mDonchev_> yes
[18:44] <mDonchev_> that messed up the whole thing :)
[18:44] <ioria> mDonchev_,  as i said, it's a bi elaborated
[18:45] <mDonchev_> OK
[18:45] <mDonchev_> Thank you very very much
[18:46] <ioria> mDonchev_,  let's try 16.04, if not working,  we can think something else
[18:47] <mDonchev_> ioria, I just booted 16.04 (try Ubuntu) and it did detect the monitor and it is on 1280x1024 and on Settings > Details for Graphics it says: Gallium 0.4 on NV67
[18:47] <rkta> iosecure: After disabling and manually adjusting resolv.conf it's working now, thank you. Will see what happends after a reboot though
[18:47] <mDonchev_> is this good?
[18:48] <ioria> mDonchev_,  sure, good job
[18:50] <mDonchev_> can I move the launcher bar to the bottom?
[18:50] <mDonchev_> :( like on 18.04 ?
[18:51] <fareast> could someone please guide me in the direction to get opengl working for vmware. I have a dell latitude with intel gma
[18:51] <ioria> mDonchev_,  yes
[18:52] <ioria> mDonchev_,  install unity-tweak-tool
[18:53] <mDonchev_> thank you
[18:53] <ioria> mDonchev_,  you're welcm
[19:00] <mDonchev_> ioria, if I install Budgie, will I run on the same [roblem with my videocard?
[19:00] <ioria> nope
[19:02] <mDonchev_> ioria, it has a fix for that?
[19:03] <ioria> mDonchev_,  why do you want budgie now ?
[19:03] <mDonchev_> it looks great :)
[19:03] <mDonchev_> I just saw it
[19:04] <ioria> mDonchev_,  https://ubuntubudgie.org/blog/2018/05/22/16-04-budgie-remix-end-of-support
[19:05] <mDonchev_> so I will run to the same problem with the video as they are 18.04 based?
[19:07] <ioria> mDonchev_,  idt so, you can try it https://launchpad.net/~budgie-remix/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[19:08] <mDonchev_> thank you (bow)
[19:08] <mDonchev_> will do it now
[20:23] <phelix> I have 18.04 Was having an issue with python and so I used apt-get and purged it. So many  things were removed. I have everything back and working fine. Except the kernel did come with drivers for my ethernet card. But now my ethernet card doesn't work. I am not sure how to get them back. i have even tried installing a newer kernel and ethernet still not working. Anyone have any ideas?
[20:25] <OerHeks> python is critical for your system, so.. reinstall it?
[20:26] <OerHeks> !info python3
[20:26] <OerHeks> i wonder how you could remove it and all dependencies
[20:27] <ioria> phelix, and what was the issue with python exactly ?
[20:29] <OerHeks> worst case scenario: chroot with a live iso, and reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[20:39] <phelix> ioria, the issue wasn't actually with python. Something with my apt-get was broken and stuck with it. I couldn't get it to go away so I could use apt-get
[20:39] <Haunted330> sorry, we are closed
[20:39] <ioria> phelix, if you removed python, apt won't work
[20:39] <phelix> I have re installed python
[20:40] <phelix> everything is working properly now except my ethernet card.
[20:40] <ioria> phelix, paste lspci -nnk
[20:41] <phelix> ioria, https://pastebin.com/UdkeWT7c
[20:42] <ioria> phelix,  uname-r
[20:42] <ioria> phelix,  uname -r
[20:43] <mDonchev_> ioria, ubuntu-budgie started in the perfect resolution ;)
[20:43] <mDonchev_> thanks a lot
[20:43] <ioria> mDonchev_,  OK, NO PROBLEM
[20:43] <phelix> ioria, 4.18.0-13-generic
[20:44] <ioria> phelix,  that is for cosmic not for bionic
[20:45] <phelix> ioria, what does this mean?
[20:45] <ioria> phelix,  it's not a 18.04 kernel
[20:46] <phelix> I should upgrade my kernel?
[20:46] <ioria> phelix, you should boot a 4.15 kern
[20:47] <phelix> ok let me try that.
[20:49] <iosecure> ioria: That's not necessarily true.
[20:50] <ioria> iosecure, what ? you mean -proposed ?
[20:50] <iosecure> No.
[20:50] <iosecure> linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 in bionic-updates is 4.18.0-13.
[20:50] <ioria> iosecure,in feb 2019 ?
[20:50] <iosecure> So that kernel version is most definitely available on 18.04.
[20:51] <iosecure> Right now.
[20:51] <ioria> !info  linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04
[20:51] <OerHeks> that ALX driver might not match current kernel
[20:51] <ioria> iosecure, you're right
[20:59] <filifunk2> test
[20:59] <filifunk2> Merry Christmas
[21:01] <filifunk2> I'm trying to fix an issue, I found a solution that says I should use 'sudo cp -avt...' How do I figure out what -avt is?
[21:01] <iosecure> man cp
[21:01] <iosecure> The flags are documented.
[21:01] <filifunk2> ah thanks
[21:01] <iosecure> But what issue are you trying to fix?
[21:02] <filifunk2> I am trying to figure out how to get the latest version of darktable
[21:02] <filifunk2> so I run sudo apt-get install darktable (not sure if that is correct) but I get an error when I do that
[21:02] <iosecure> What error?
[21:03] <filifunk2>  dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[21:03] <iosecure> Did you run the recommended command?
[21:03] <filifunk2> I run that and it stops after telling me something about how mysql is already installed and I can force it...but it just gets stuck
[21:04] <filifunk2> going to try again so I can get the actual text for you
[21:04] <filifunk2> This installation of MySQL is already upgraded to 5.7.24, use --force if you still need to run mysql_upgrade
[21:04] <filifunk2> it gets stuck there
[21:05] <iosecure> How large is the existing database?
[21:06] <filifunk2> I don't know, but it is possible that I may be running out of space...if that's what you're getting at
[21:06] <iosecure> mysql_upgrade can take a while on large databases.
[21:06] <filifunk2> ahh ok, I can just run it then go do something else
[21:07] <filifunk2> wish there were a way to see what its doing as its doing it
[21:31] <cdevidal> How do I prevent postfix from logging every email to /var/log/syslog?
[21:35] <alt0id> HELP UBUNTU PEOPLE! i've installed irssi using the apt-get install irssi and used my classy password
[21:35] <alt0id> FaGGoT to let it through and around :: monday night in my room irssi completely broke and
[21:35] <alt0id> it started spamming colored letters, how do i fix it?
[21:36] <leftyfb> !op | alt0id
[21:37] <leftyfb> cdevidal: turn off logging
[21:37] <cdevidal> leftyfb: I do want logging, just to a different file
[21:46] <cdevidal> leftyfb: I think I found the answer https://serverfault.com/questions/514540/how-do-i-stop-postfix-log-info-going-into-syslog
[22:02] <bray90820> Now that ubuntu touch is gone what is a good desktop interface to run on 7 inch tablets
[22:16] <Goop> SimonNL, RE: "wasn't that hard to find" I have already looked at that question, and the answer no longer works, as it is a heavily outdated fix. It no longer works on the current version of Thunderbird.
[22:17] <Kumool> bray90820: windows 8
[22:17] <bray90820> Haha that's not ubuntu
[22:17] <bray90820> And not even runable on the raspberry pi anyways
[22:18] <OerHeks>  raspberian or that mate version
[22:21] <Jesuwope> What is the best and most unfailing IRC Identd program?
[22:21] <Jesuwope> (For Ubuntu)
[22:21] <bindi> oidentd
[22:21] <Jesuwope> thanks
[22:21] <Jesuwope> :)
[22:22] <Jesuwope> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
[22:41] <phelix> my ethernet quit working on my machine. Having a really hard time trying to figure out what could have happened. Anyone able to help?
[22:43] <Buliarous> Try   “ip a” and see if you have an eth interface?
[22:45] <phelix> wow I finally figured it out.. thanks though
[22:54] <carrot_> Hi I'm new to ubuntu OS and just installed 18.04 on my Inspiron-15-7000-Gaming laptop but it's not detecting my external monitor. Is this a common glitch?
[23:03] <guiverc> carrot_, i don't use gnome sorry, but i'd suggest opening 'display'  & ensure the screen isn't turned (ie. 'use this display')
[23:03] <OerHeks> carrot_, perhaps it is a FN + external monitor issue
[23:04] <OerHeks> fn+f8
[23:06] <carrot_> I haven't had any issues with my external monitor working on my laptop that ran windows.
[23:08] <ryuo> carrot_: Poke around in whatever your flavor uses for display management. (or xrandr if you're adventurous)
[23:08] <ryuo> carrot_: if other monitors are detected, they may not be used by default.
[23:10] <carrot_> I checked the display settings and built in display option is turned on and faded out.
[23:11] <ryuo> carrot_: is the monitor powered on and plugged in?
[23:11] <ryuo> hm.
[23:11] <carrot_> lol yes..
[23:11] <ryuo> run this command in a terminal and give us the url please: xrandr | pastebinit
[23:12] <carrot_> ok
[23:16] <tonyt> the turkey is done lol https://i.imgur.com/RuVdn6p.jpg
[23:16] <TJ-> tonyt: there is no need to spam every channel with that
[23:17] <carrot_> https://pastebin.com/embed_iframe/6pWapAi5  -- I hope  I have this right?
[23:18] <ryuo> Interesting. It's not even detectign anything on the external port.
[23:18] <ryuo> DP-1 shows as disconnected.
[23:18] <ryuo> eDP-1 is the internal display.
[23:19] <TJ-> ryuo: carrot_ dual GPUs maybe?
[23:19] <ryuo> yes, probably a dual GPU issue.
[23:20] <ryuo> carrot_: what's your GPU? nvidia?
[23:20] <carrot_> yes
[23:20] <ryuo> did you already install the nvidia proprietary drivers?
[23:20] <carrot_> I installed the recommended drivers, yes
[23:21] <carrot_> nvidia-driver-415
[23:21] <ryuo> not fun... dual gpus...
[23:25] <carrot_> Is their another linux OS that can work with dual gpu?  I got this laptop due it being compatible with linux.
[23:25] <carrot_> * there
[23:29] <myself> carrot_: just to doublecheck, do you have any other monitors or cables to try, or any other computers to try that monitor with? Sometimes something as dumb as a bent or dirty pin can prevent the i2c DDC channel from coming up, and the monitor won't be detected
[23:30] <myself> I don't know the first thing about dual GPUs, but I've had all sorts of terrible cables :P
[23:30] <xerox123> ubuntu 18.04, running xfce4, the shutdown/suspend buttons only log my out and not actually shutdown/suspend my system?
[23:31] <xerox123> me out*
[23:31] <xerox123> been googling this for days, only ending at incomplete forum threads, any help is appreciated, thanks!
[23:31] <carrot_> myself: I'm checking that right now.
[23:37] <blackbird1> Hi, I have Windows installes on /dev/sda and Ubuntu on /dev/sdb. But grub detect only Ubuntu. How to make grub detect both of OSs ?
[23:39] <NerdTheThird> try this and restart `grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg`
[23:40] <NerdTheThird> blackbird1
[23:41] <carrot_> myself: My external monitor works just fine on my samsung laptop running Windows 10.
[23:41] <carrot_> I'm using a HDMI cable.
[23:42] <blackbird1> NerdTheThird: Each OS is in seperate hard derive
[23:43] <TJ-> carrot_: Have you suspended/resumed the PC since last boot?
[23:44] <carrot_> i may have suspended it last night.
[23:46] <blackbird1> !paste
[23:47] <blackbird1> NerdTheThird: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S7r5V7MZKV/
[23:47] <NerdTheThird> idk then tbh. it should find windows anyways
[23:47] <pnwise> Anyone complained recently videos not playing in 18.04?
[23:48] <pnwise> I mean sites like youtube
[23:48] <NerdTheThird> if nothing, enter bios and change drive boot order
[23:48] <pnwise> It is buffering, but is not playing, none of the web videos, even 9gag gifs
[23:48] <pnwise> so strange, it happen the other night in the middle of watching some youtube video
[23:48] <blackbird1> pnwise: for me no video play issues.
[23:50] <TJ-> carrot_: The reason I ask is we have seen issues around monitor detection due to the PC's firmware ACPI. There are 3 possibilities which you can test: 1) after a cold boot does the monitor show up? 2) if not, do a supend/resume and check again 3) add an acpi_osi option to kernel command line. See http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[23:54] <carrot_> TJ : I'll try those steps thanks!
[23:55] <TJ-> carrot_: I know of at least 2 users that found the acpi_osi workaround fixed it
[23:55] <carrot_> ok! Thanks again!