[14:14] <jubo2> Ok. I filed a bug about the Plasma-vault refusing to create a vault because the CryFS and the EncFS are newer than what Plasma-vault is expecting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-vault/+bug/1809902
[14:35] <acheronuk> jubo2: thanks
[14:35] <jubo2> np
[14:36] <acheronuk> updating a vm to test on that
[14:37] <jubo2> cool. thanks acheronuk
[14:43] <acheronuk> jubo2: what is you output for 'apt-cache policy encfs' and 'apt-cache policy cryfs'
[14:43] <jubo2> just a sec
[14:44] <acheronuk> just made a vault fine with cryfs
[14:46] <acheronuk> and with encfs
[14:46] <acheronuk> I'm wondering if you really have those installed?
[14:47] <jubo2> yeah I got them
[14:47] <jubo2> privmsg or pastebin for the output?
[14:47] <jubo2> acheronuk: above line for you
[14:47] <acheronuk> pastebin
[14:47] <jubo2> hold on..
[14:48] <jubo2> it says "Installed: (none)"
[14:48] <acheronuk> well, you dont have it installed then
[14:48] <jubo2> oh crap.. sorry for wasting urr time acheronuk
[14:48] <jubo2> I'll install now and see what happens
[14:49] <acheronuk> jubo2: you haven't wasted it, as it made me find the bug
[14:49] <jubo2> This is embarracing
[14:49] <acheronuk> and a fix
[14:49] <jubo2> I don't know how I managed to not notice that they ain't installed
[14:49] <acheronuk> NOT the bug you thought, but still a bug
[14:49] <jubo2> acheronuk: so CryFS is preferred over EncFS?
[14:50] <acheronuk> just about
[14:50] <jubo2> I saw a notice about EncFS getting a bad security audit
[14:50] <jubo2> but I read somewhere that no independent security audit has been done for CryFS
[14:51] <acheronuk> I think basically a user who cares that much, should buy a hardware encrypted drive ;)
[14:51] <acheronuk> for most people, it's ok
[14:52] <acheronuk> jubo2: for the record, you have shown that this fix needs to be applied: https://cgit.kde.org/plasma-vault.git/commit/?h=Plasma/5.12&id=5d3face3c1bbe5a8a40927048b6f1c3280b26399
[14:53] <acheronuk> so it give a **correct** error message, saying that it can't find the encryption backend installed
[14:53] <jubo2> acheronuk: Just to be on the safe side I ask you this: I can set the mount point to where the currently unencrypted directory is. Right? No loss of data?
[14:53] <acheronuk> instead of the version error
[14:54] <acheronuk> jubo2: I can't say. I've done basic testing of it, but not that
[14:54] <acheronuk> back up the dir if not sure
[14:54] <jubo2> it is huge
[14:54] <jubo2> holds backups
[14:55] <acheronuk> probably the best person to ask in the KDE developer then
[14:56] <acheronuk> he is the author of this commit: https://cgit.kde.org/plasma-vault.git/commit/?h=Plasma/5.12&id=45ad41edad0df1d118317cba9497c02fb1b3870d
[14:59] <jubo2> it seems it silently failed trying to set a mount point over an existing directory
[14:59] <jubo2> so put it in ~/Vaults/something and now moving the stuff there
[15:00] <jubo2> gotta dash. if you need something acheronuk (re: the bug report or something) just drop me a line and I'll do it when I get back home. bye
[15:01] <acheronuk> jubo2: kool. if we can amend the bug title and description, can use it to track applying the fix for the misleading error message
[15:01] <acheronuk> which I can test and upload sometime soon
[15:02] <jubo2> 'k will do
[16:48] <Katnip> think this will work on kubuntu? https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/11/connect-android-ubuntu-gsconnect
[17:47] <jubo2> acheronuk: You there. Something slightly nightmareish happened. I was moving several tens of GB to the newly created vault with 'mv' command and the system run out of disk and the 'mv' ended with a bunch of "Transport endpoint is not connected" errors
[17:48] <jubo2> now when I try to open the vault I get error "Failed to open: Failed to create directories, check your permissio..."
[17:56] <jubo2> According to this https://github.com/cryfs/cryfs/issues/209 if an encrypted block is corrupted _and_ it happens to be that of a directory it will render all the content gone
[17:56] <jubo2> and since I was moving a whole directory I think I've lost the data
[17:57] <jubo2> maybe I should reboot and see if I can open the vault
[17:59] <jubo2> I have a 500GB backup disk and that contains all the directories that were probably lost now
[18:00] <jubo2> or at least I think I'm seeing all the "lost" directories in there. I gonna reboot and see if the Vault is permanently broken
[18:06] <jubo2> Ok. A relief. The Vault opens
[18:07] <jubo2> but running df hangs
[18:08] <jubo2> something is definitely wrong now
[18:08] <jubo2> df hangs and does not care about CTRL+c
[18:34] <jubo2> now the df runs
[18:35] <jubo2> it seems the vault is 204GB in side of which only 145GB is used
[18:35] <jubo2> *size
[19:27] <daddyjohn> there we go, Ill take some of that, and add a dash of coffee...
[21:45] <valorie> Katnip: if you are running Kubuntu, kdeconnect is what you want
[21:45] <valorie> if instead you are using a gtk environment like Ubuntu, then use gsconnect
[21:46] <valorie> as the article says, it's a javascript port of kdeconnect
[21:57] <Katnip> ok
[21:57] <Katnip> ty