[00:07] <cryptodan_mobile> nagnewb_: looks like your system might be incompatible with linux
[00:07] <nagnewb_> darn
[00:08] <nagnewb_> Guess opening a bug report on launchpad isn't worth it then?
[00:08] <cryptodan_mobile> I would and maybe support will get added
[00:09] <nagnewb_> It's just the touchpad that doesn't work otherwise everything else seems to work on the keyboard like volume up/down and turning wifi on/off
[00:09] <nagnewb_> Oh well, I'll send in the bugreport and see what happens
[00:09] <nagnewb_> Thanks
[01:01] <pharpend> Hi, everyone. I have a bluetooth keyboard that successfully connected in the past, but now will not connect to my computer. The only error message blueman gives me is "failed to add device"
[01:01] <pharpend> I have other bluetooth devices successfully connected to the same adapter
[01:03] <pharpend> If I plug the keyboard in via USB, it works
[01:03] <pharpend> But it will not connect via bluetooth. It will not connect to my other machine either
[01:31] <thatlizdude> ok I still can't figure out why one of my headphones is making a static noise when nothing is playing, I'm on XPS 13 9370, sorry I've left before, I got some time now
[01:31] <thatlizdude> anyone has an idea of what could be causing that noise? they are Sennheiser HD1, wired, with a mic
[01:35] <lotuspsychje> !sound | thatlizdude a few tests you can do here
[01:35] <limbo_> thatlizdude: noise floor of your amp. If it makes a similar sound with other audio setups, try grounding it. (also try with other OSs to determine if it's an ubuntu problem)
[01:35] <thatlizdude> limbo_: it doesn't do it on Android nor Windows
[01:35] <myself> Is there a chance that a disconnected mic input is enabled somewhere, and playing through the active output device?
[01:36] <limbo_> thatlizdude: on the same machine?
[01:36] <thatlizdude> I doubt that, the input is set to be going from headphones's mic
[01:36] <thatlizdude> limbo_: Windows and Ubuntu on the same machine, yes, and only Ubuntu does it
[01:37] <thatlizdude> I'm pretty sure at least, I know I've had these plugged into Windows before and haven't noticed anything
[01:37] <limbo_> Are there special windows drivers/is the volume set the same?
[01:37] <thatlizdude> any audio plays normally though
[01:38] <thatlizdude> the noise is the same volume at any volume I set it to
[01:38] <thatlizdude> and I'm not sure about the drivers
[01:38] <thatlizdude> but my other earbuds work fine
[01:39] <limbo_> fairly sure it's noise floor then.
[01:39] <rfm> thatlizdude, if it goes away when other phones are used, it's probably the connector or wires in the phones.
[01:39] <CarlFK> any suggestions for extracting text from pdf?  I need to extract the raw text (don't want formatting) from https://github.com/kattni/pyohio_2018_cp/blob/master/PyOhio_Welcome_to_CircuitPython_slides.pdf
[01:39] <limbo_> The amp in your machine is noisy, but you can't hear it with other headphones.
[01:40] <thatlizdude> I don't think it's the headphones, it doesn't do it on Android for example
[01:40] <limbo_> thatlizdude: read about: "noise floor" That's my guess.
[01:40] <rfm> thatlizdude, the difference between ubuntu and windows could be ubuntu is leaving some DC on the output at idle while windows and android don't
[01:42] <thatlizdude> yeah but is there a fix for it?
[01:43] <CarlFK> pdftotext . yay.
[01:44] <rfm> thatlizdude, a voltmeter and a spare plug would be my next step, to see if there is in fact dc on the output. (or put some dc across the phones, wiggle the wires, and see.)
[01:44] <m0th3rsup3r10r> hi is it normal that none of the apps in kodi seem to work?
[01:45] <lotuspsychje> CarlFK: didnt test myself but inkscape seems to be able to do lots with pdf's
[01:45] <thatlizdude> I really don't have anything to measure dc..
[01:45] <CarlFK> lotuspsychje: pdftotext is perfect
[01:47] <thatlizdude> could some drivers fix it then
[01:52]  * timeless is looking for a systemd service best practice guide
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | timeless
[01:53] <timeless> specifically, is there a recommended place to put scripts that are referenced by a file ~/.config/systemd/user/myservice.service ? -- esp a ExecStartPre= script
[01:53] <thatlizdude> or should I just learn to live with the noise :D
[01:54] <thatlizdude> it feels like an "internal" noise or something like that
[01:54] <timeless> lotuspsychje: thanks, checked both, neither seem to offer advice for this case
[01:55] <timeless> if i was writing a /lib/systemd/system/myservice.service, the file probably belongs in /usr/share/myservice/bin
[01:56] <timeless> i'm not even sure where it would properly belong if i were writing a /etc/systemd/system/myservice.service, but i think i tend to use /usr/local/sbin
[01:57] <timeless> it wouldn't be proper for me to use ~/bin, because that tends to be in my path, and the prestart script should really only be used by the service file
[01:58] <thatlizdude> or, since Dell sells these laptops with Ubuntu preinstalled, should I just contact them?
[02:00] <rfm> timeless, if it's a user service with the .service file in your home directory it would seem most logical to have the scripts in your home directory too.  Not much of a standard for home directory layout, but I'd say if you use ~/bin for things you expect to run as command, ~/lib would be logical for executables that you don't expect to run as commands...
[02:01] <timeless> rfm: ok, ~/lib seems reasonable
[02:14] <thatlizdude> guys I think I have tried everything what I've found already, I can't get rid of the "electric static noise" in the background of my headphones, when booting, it's not happening, only after I plug in the headphones after a login, do you really have no other ideas? I really wanna get rid of it
[02:16] <lotuspsychje> thatlizdude: wich kernel are you booting mate?
[02:18] <thatlizdude> lotuspsychje: 4.18.0-13-generic (buildd@lgw01-amd64-048)
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> thatlizdude: cosmic?
[02:20] <thatlizdude> lotuspsychje: wdym
[02:20] <thatlizdude> oh 18.10? yes
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> thatlizdude: did you try the same on LTS for example?
[02:21] <thatlizdude> lotuspsychje: well.. no
[02:21] <thatlizdude> I'll do that, is it enough if I do it on Live USB?
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> thatlizdude: maybe try a liveusb, sure
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> thatlizdude: another test could also be, trying out pavucontrol
[02:22] <thatlizdude> I have a live USB of 18.10, I'll see if it still does it by booting off of that, then I'll try LTS
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> great
[02:23] <thatlizdude> or should I try pavucontrol first, if that's easier
[02:24] <thatlizdude> meh I'll try the USB and see, I'll be back
[02:24] <thatlizdude> thanks
[02:25] <ntemis> hi
[02:25] <ntemis> i cant mount my usb 3.0 6tb ntfs hdd to ubuntu bionic
[02:25] <ntemis> any help
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> ntemis: can you share a tail -f /var/log/syslog then plugout/back in of your usb in a pastebin to the channel?
[02:28] <ntemis> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb2': Resource temporarily unavailable
[02:30] <ntemis> Dec 27 04:29:00 demetris-TA770E3 ntfs-3g[3852]: ntfs_mst_post_read_fixup_warn: magic: 0x60090085  size: 4096   usa_ofs: 21034  usa_count: 8616: Invalid argument
[02:30] <ntemis> Dec 27 04:29:00 demetris-TA770E3 ntfs-3g[3852]: Actual VCN (0x8fe542bb04dad654) of index buffer is different from expected VCN (0x3) in inode 0x9489.
[02:30] <timeless> rfm: i know that ubuntu tends to use /lib/systemd/system instead of /usr/lib/systemd/system, but some other platforms seem to use /lib/systemd/system, is there any programmatic way to know which a vendor is supposed to use?
[02:33] <timeless> err others tend to use /usr/lib/...
[02:45] <white_magic> Greetings, I'm trying to enter grub recovery mode so I can reset my password, but choosing the recovery boot option in GRUB boots me straight into the login screen. Please advise!
[02:48] <simbalion> Hi, what package includes the command 'update-ca-trust'?
[02:49] <thatlizdude> lotuspsychje: ok I tested the 18.10 and 18.04.1 LTS live USB's, both of them have the same issue, and I confirmed that Windows doesn't do it
[02:52] <matsaman> simbalion: could query apt-file about it
[02:52] <simbalion> matsaman: I don't have an ubuntu system I use Debian
[02:52] <matsaman> simbalion: well Ubuntu is about 99% Debian, apt-file exists for both
[02:52] <matsaman> and you're in the wrong channel
[02:53] <simbalion> No, my question is for Ubuntu
[02:53] <matsaman> then there was no reason to tell me you're using Debian =P
[02:53] <simbalion> please don't assume.
[02:53] <matsaman> I never do
[02:53] <simbalion> Debian and Ubuntu do not share packages
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> thatlizdude: thats very weird indeed, perhaps consider a new !bug for this
[02:53] <matsaman> yes they do
[02:53] <thatlizdude> lotuspsychje: still worth trying pavucontrol or contacting Dell?
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> thatlizdude: yeah try pavucontrol before making a bug
[02:54] <simbalion> Perhaps you could do the search on your ubuntu system and tell me what results you get instead of arguing
[02:54] <thatlizdude> well I'm gonna assume Dell won't do anything because it seems like an OS issue
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> thatlizdude: no, if we file a bug, its sended to the canonical developers
[02:54] <simbalion> Having tried it already I don't see results
[02:54] <simbalion> which doesn't mean much because I'm not running Ubuntu.
[02:55] <matsaman> it's probably not a thing anymore is why
[02:55] <simbalion> This is specifically about ubuntu 16 I should specify
[02:56] <matsaman> maybe 'ca-certificates'
[02:56] <simbalion> That's what I'm thinking too, thanks :)
[02:56] <simbalion> I will try that
[02:58] <timeless> simbalion: personally i tend to use https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=bionic&arch=any&mode=exactfilename&searchon=contents&keywords=update-ca-trust
[02:58] <timeless> it doesn't require a running install
[02:58] <simbalion> It seems like this command is obsoleted?
[02:59] <thatlizdude> lotuspsychje: pavucontrol didn't do anything either :/ where can I report the bug...?
[02:59] <timeless> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?mode=filename&suite=bionic&section=all&arch=any&keywords=update-ca-certificates&searchon=contents
[02:59] <matsaman> simbalion: I'm not sure packages.ubuntu.com works for it for any version
[03:00] <simbalion> ah update-ca-certificates
[03:00] <simbalion> I appreciate the help guys
[03:00] <matsaman> -trust might be the Red Hat formatting <shrug>
[03:01] <thatlizdude> also I
[03:01] <timeless> simbalion: you probably want ca-legacy
[03:01] <timeless> which doesn't seem to be around
[03:01] <simbalion> im trying to fix someone's packer script, in case anyone's wondering why I'm asking questions about an OS I don't use
[03:01] <timeless> simbalion: that problem is very familiar
[03:02]  * timeless has been asking similarly wonky questions to try to fix a metapackager
[03:02] <matsaman> simbalion: my sympathies
[03:02] <thatlizdude> also I'm not sure if this is a bug, but when I set a shortcut to "Reset and Clear" terminal, and I press it, it will do it, but it won't display the prompt back as `tput reset` does - why is that?
[03:02] <matsaman> dunno, what is 'Reset and Clear'?
[03:03] <thatlizdude> that's what I was asking, is that what it's supposed to do? it's when you go in the Terminal preferences and shortcuts, there's a "Reset and Clear" shortcut
[03:04] <timeless> thatlizdude: `terminal` = gnome-terminal?
[03:04] <thatlizdude> yes
[03:04] <matsaman> who knows
[03:04] <matsaman> magic GUI things are what they are: magic nonsense
[03:04] <timeless> to us, `terminal` is "any random shell"
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> !bug | thatlizdude
[03:05] <timeless> thatlizdude: https://askubuntu.com/questions/793109/ubuntu-16-04-reset-and-clear-shortcut-doesnt-work ?
[03:07] <thatlizdude> jesus so many things to do before filing a bug
[03:10] <thatlizdude> timeless: I don't know if that's it, doesn't have a solution, but when I press the shortcut what I end up with is an empty Terminal window, showing only the cursor, not even my username
[03:10] <timeless> thatlizdude: that might not be unexpected results
[03:10] <timeless> try typing`reset`+<enter>
[03:11] <thatlizdude> timeless: when I type it in, I get the same result, but after about 1 second, my username pops back up
[03:11] <thatlizdude> `tput reset` does it immediatelly
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> thatlizdude: feel free to share bug link afterwards
[03:13] <thatlizdude> lotuspsychje: yeah I will if I'll file it..
[03:27] <carlitosway> hi all i have a gerneral question re config of ufw for a pc running Ubuntu (not server) if i enable ufw default settings am i relatively safe and sound from malware threats
[03:28] <carlitosway> or should i spend some time learning about how to setup a firewall in more detail
[03:30] <thatlizdude> lotuspsychje: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1809856
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> thatlizdude: tnx for creating the bug
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> carlitosway: a firewall is just one aspect of security
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> carlitosway: there are much more ways to secure your machine, depending on many different things
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> carlitosway: for example, wich services are you running, wich ports are open,other users access your computer,etc
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> thatlizdude: maybe attach syslog/dmesg to the bug too
[03:35] <Net|> find . -type d -print0 > dirs.txt
[03:35] <Net|> find . -type f -print0 > files.txt
[03:35] <Net|> #find symbolic links
[03:35] <Net|> xargs -0 mkdir -p <dirs.txt
[03:35] <Net|> cat files.txt | while read FILENAMES; do touch "$FILENAMES"; done
[03:35] <Net|> #then tar all that up and you have a remote filesystem snapshot for about 1mb
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> use a pastebin Net|
[04:01] <thatlizdude> lotuspsychje: what syslog do you want me to attach
[04:02] <thatlizdude> actually I do hear something with my earbuds too!
[04:35] <megakilobyte> sup fellas. got 7 possible rootkits says rkhunter. what to do?
[04:49] <DexDeadly> Looking for an opinion on NFS vs CIFS
[04:51] <DexDeadly> I have an emby server and xigmanas and right now I'm running cifs shares in the nas and mounting them in fstab through cifs.  What I'm wondering is should I be doing it through that or should I use NFS shares.  Would I gain any speed or performance doing it that way
[04:53] <jexmex> Evening all
[04:53] <jexmex> I am getting an error, Dec 26 23:32:50 element kernel: [ 1304.908396] [drm:intel_pipe_update_end [i915]] *ERROR* Atomic update failure on pipe A (start=78996 end=78997) time 327 us, min 894, max 899, scanline start 882, end 900
[04:53] <jexmex> It causes my laptop to freeze up sometimes within minutes after reboot and sometimes after days.
[04:54] <jexmex> I am guessing this is a problem with the drivers in the kernel for the built in intel graphics card
[04:54] <Mr_Cyclops> Hello. I have a Thinkpad X220, with an external monitor Dell P2715Q (4k, UHD) connected via Dell original Display port cable
[04:54] <jexmex> but I really do not know enough to know for sure or how to fix
[04:54] <Mr_Cyclops> but at the highest resolution 3840x2160, I can't get 60Hz refresh rate
[04:55] <Mr_Cyclops> tried all options from Google, Dell, but no luck. Please help. I am running Ubuntu Budgie 18.04 LTS
[04:56] <Mr_Cyclops> The refresh just wont report or go beyond 30K, which pretty much defeats the purpose of having a 4K UHD monitor :(
[05:09] <matsaman> Mr_Cyclops: I'm pretty sure human eyes do that on their own =) but let's try and fix your issue anyway
[05:14] <matsaman> Mr_Cyclops: this monitor gets 60 with another OS?
[05:19] <Mr_Cyclops> hi matsaman
[05:19] <Mr_Cyclops> It's supposed to, but no :(
[05:19] <Mr_Cyclops> I tried with my office laptop, which is a Dell Latitude E7470 using HDMI and DP both
[05:20] <Mr_Cyclops> when I press the menu button, the monitor options shows max 60Hz, but the OS doesn't report it
[05:20] <Mr_Cyclops> ( Office laptop = Windows 10 )
[05:20] <matsaman> Mr_Cyclops: okay
[05:21] <matsaman> Mr_Cyclops: have you tried with any other cables?
[05:21] <Mr_Cyclops> oh yes! Multiple brand DP Cables (inclusive of a brand new Dell DP Cable), HDMI Cables, DVI Cables
[05:21] <Mr_Cyclops> but no
[05:21] <Mr_Cyclops> no luck
[05:22] <Mr_Cyclops> the moment I change the resolution to one notch lower (2560x1440), I get 60
[05:23] <matsaman> have you tried on anything not a laptop?
[05:23] <Mr_Cyclops> matsaman, see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7tVrzTNchj/
[05:23] <Mr_Cyclops> I tried with my raspberry pi :) but no joy (Dont have a desktop)
[05:23] <Mr_Cyclops> tried with another Thinkpad T430S, again, same output
[05:24] <Mr_Cyclops> DP-2 connected primary 2560x1440+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 597mm x 336mm
[05:24] <Mr_Cyclops>    3840x2160     29.98
[05:24] <Mr_Cyclops>    2560x1440     59.95*
[05:24] <matsaman> where have you read it actually supports 60 at 4k?
[05:25] <Mr_Cyclops> Dell forum and by design it does
[05:25] <matsaman> 'by design'?
[05:25] <matsaman> so you get 30 at 4k?
[05:26] <Mr_Cyclops> yes
[05:26] <Mr_Cyclops> but I should get 60 at 4K
[05:26] <Mr_Cyclops> I even upgraded the firmware using Windows office laptop, and original drivers from Dell
[05:28] <Mr_Cyclops> the firmware upgrade software even shows that it has drivers for 60@4k for HDMI 2 and DP, and the upgrade was successful, stilll ... :(
[05:28] <matsaman> what's your graphics device?
[05:28] <Mr_Cyclops> Good question. How can I quickly find out? what command?
[05:29] <matsaman> if you look at lspci -k output, and search for 'VGA', it should say immediately following
[05:30] <Mr_Cyclops> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09
[05:31] <matsaman> Mr_Cyclops: it should say 'blah blah in use' after that
[05:31] <matsaman> but presumably 'intel'
[05:31] <matsaman> that is not traditionally the beefiest of graphics devices
[05:31] <Mr_Cyclops> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[05:31] <Mr_Cyclops> 	Subsystem: Lenovo 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[05:31] <Mr_Cyclops> 	Kernel driver in use: i915
[05:31] <Mr_Cyclops> 	Kernel modules: i915
[05:32] <matsaman> have you tried it on something with dedicated graphics? (nvidia, ati)
[05:32] <Mr_Cyclops> I wish, but none of my devices, personal or office, has a dedicated Graphics Card
[05:32] <Mr_Cyclops> I do remember, a Windows 10 laptop in the shop (where I bought the monitor from), connected to the same model showing 60 Hz at max resolution!
[05:33] <Mr_Cyclops> I dont want to, but looks like I have to carry my laptops and the huge monitor to their shop tomorrow to check it out. but then I wish I could solve it
[05:34] <matsaman> yeah if that's true, and if it's the same model monitor and the same edition of Windows
[05:34] <matsaman> then it's probably down to the graphics device, the particular driver/config, or the cable
[05:34] <matsaman> the cable is easily checked if you bring yours
[05:34] <Mr_Cyclops> Cable was the most quoted solution on the internet, hence I got the original new DP cable from Office :) and plugged it in, but duhh
[05:34]  * matsaman shrugs
[05:34] <matsaman> you got an HDMI cable?
[05:35] <Mr_Cyclops> yeah, tried that too, no luck
[05:35] <matsaman> or something else digital
[05:35] <matsaman> k
[05:35] <Mr_Cyclops> followed every solution on google and dell's support forum, but dang, I am getting unlucky with my monitor
[05:36] <Mr_Cyclops> OS, Cables, Firmware Upgrades, Ubuntu, Fedora, HDMI, DP, HDMI 2, everything I had at home, I tried :D but no joy
[05:37] <matsaman> Mr_Cyclops: what version of Ubuntu, again?
[05:37] <Mr_Cyclops> 18.04 LTS (Budgie DE)
[05:38] <matsaman> Mr_Cyclops: it might honestly be worth checking against an Ubuntu 19 dev build
[05:39] <Mr_Cyclops> I see, and I say why not :) That would be my last resort I guess before taking all my stuff to the shop after all
[05:39] <Mr_Cyclops> I want you to check out an image, hold on
[05:39] <matsaman> a guy with the same problem at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96828 says it worked out with a trunk drm-intel
[05:40] <matsaman> and I would see how far you can get with just a live OS first, if you don't have media for a regular install handy
[05:41] <Mr_Cyclops> I have a spare SSD for trying out actual installations, so thats not an issue at all, will try it out shortly
[05:41] <Mr_Cyclops> do you have the direct URL for dowloading U 19 dev bld?
[05:42] <Mr_Cyclops> I guess you meant this one? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/disco-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:42] <matsaman> that looks legitimate to me
[05:43] <matsaman> if it works and for whatever reason you don't want to be stuck on a dev version, you should be able to get the particular kernel/X stuff in your version 18 working, too
[05:43] <Mr_Cyclops> also how to send an image to pastebinit
[05:43] <Mr_Cyclops> ?
[05:46] <styles> I'm on 18.04.1 LTS (Bionic Beaver) and I have an Nvidia 1070 Ti. I'm trying to use the shipped proprietary drivers and after installing they don't seem to load up. The display is seen as "unknown" and the nvidia config is completely empty.
[05:46] <styles> I've read that there's missing packages like mesa, and I've installed those and rebooted, no luck. Any ideas?
[05:47] <matsaman> Mr_Cyclops: just use imgur if it's not personal
[05:48] <Mr_Cyclops> https://imgur.com/a/M1tHmDe
[05:49] <Mr_Cyclops> matsaman, let me know if you can see the image (Look at the bottom of it, current details on left, max on right)
[05:50] <Mr_Cyclops> if not that, then this > https://imgur.com/a/M1tHmDe
[05:50] <matsaman> Mr_Cyclops: I can see it, I believed you already though
[05:50] <Mr_Cyclops> :) I know, but still :)
[05:51] <Mr_Cyclops> ok then, I am going to try the U19 dev build and come back and let you know Appreciate all of your time and help! Cheers ....
[06:05] <carlitosway1> lotuspsychje thanks for your reply-this i am very aware of and beleive i have taken steps to secure other attack vectors; as much as i am able to-in relation to firewall, can you elaborate re examples of services|steps to take
[06:07] <carlitosway1> my computer only has one user me and services i suppose you mean irc bittorrent vpn gaming online
[06:08] <Net|> https://netpipe.ca/aha/programs.tar.gz thats my stash of program source ment to be viewed as an archive
[06:09] <salty2011> hi all, anyone had issues using "nvidia-drm.modeset=1" with nvidia drivers?
[06:09] <salty2011> i appear to get a purple screen after login
[08:22] <Intelo> What should be the path of smtpd_milters =   in ubuntu 18?
[08:53] <shifted> Hey I have a question about bash
[08:53] <shifted> So I have a program called thread-archiver that is used thusly: thread-archiver <copy-pasted URL> &
[08:53] <shifted> I use it by opening a terminal, typing thread-archiver and then copy pasting the URL
[08:54] <shifted> What I want to know is, is it possible to make some sort of script that grabs the contents of the clipboard and if it's a URL, feed it through thread-archiver?
[08:54] <shifted> I was looking at xclip just now, not sure if this is what I would need
[08:54] <shifted> Sorry if I'm misusing any jargon or terms, I'm pretty sure this is a bash thing
[08:58] <ducasse> shifted: xclip would be a good place to start, yes. if you need help writing a bash script, ask in #bash
[09:05] <shifted> Ok cool thanks @ducasse
[09:05] <matsaman> xclip -o, for teh example
[09:06] <matsaman> you could probably also just cron a script that checks if all your bookmarks at a particular site are archived or not, archiving if not
[09:45] <IniGit> hi
[09:45] <Faults> Hey
[09:46] <IniGit> I want my luks encrypted partitions not to show up in nautilus. I set noauto,x-gvfs-hide in /etc/fstab but that does not help
[09:47] <IniGit> that entry in fstab only fails with luks partitions
[09:47] <IniGit> I also tried something in /etc/udev/rules.d, but that also didn't work
[09:54] <mohnish> Hello! what website do I use to show you guys a really long text?(Xubuntu is showing that I have an internal error, though I think everything's fine)
[09:55] <matsaman> dpaste.com
[09:56] <mohnish> dpaste.com, let me check it out
[10:00] <mohnish> matsaman: I get this error while running 'sudo apt update' http://dpaste.com/2TX8EMT
[10:00] <mohnish> Check the link out
[10:01] <mohnish> No one out of 1108 people is online to help me?? Such a bad luck!
[10:01] <Faults> Shutter PPA is not updated for latest 18.10... thats the error.
[10:01] <mohnish> Oh there you are
[10:02] <Faults> :)
[10:02] <mohnish> Faults: So, how do I fix it?
[10:02] <mohnish> I don't know how to edit PPAs
[10:02] <Faults> I suppose Shutter is what you like to use for screenshotting needs?
[10:02] <mohnish> Yes, exactly
[10:03] <mohnish> Um, so how do I fix it?
[10:04] <Faults> Well... its a bit shame that Shutter is not that well anymore maintained. Its such a great piece of software
[10:04] <mohnish> Um, what do you mean?
[10:05] <mohnish> Faults: ??
[10:05] <Faults> Xenial	release	on 2016-04-02 Thats been latest relöease
[10:05] <mohnish> On google it says that shutter has been removed
[10:06] <mohnish> I mean, I have xfce4-screenshooter
[10:06] <mohnish> How do I remove the shutter PPA?
[10:30] <chull> Help! We are trying to get my husband’s new printer to work.  He has Ubuntu 16.04 and it’s a Canon PIXMA TS9120.  I slept, he worked on it, he can’t talk to tell me what he did.  I started working on it, and then we figured out that we have two different file names. They are similar but not the same. He’s got it unpacked but I don’t see a gui to operate the printer.
[10:30] <chull> I’m not sure where to go from here?
[10:31] <chull> cnijfilter2-source-5.50-1.tar.gz
[10:31] <chull>        cnijfilter2-5.50-1-deb.tar.gz
 chalcedny: you could end up with cnijfilter2-5.50-1-deb.tar.gz (printer) + scangearmp2-3.50-1-deb.tar.gz (scanner)
[10:33] <rory> you want the deb one chull
[10:33] <tomreyn> chull: the above is what i told you last night. downloads are at https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/printers/inkjet-multifunction/ts-series-inkjet/pixma-ts9120-gray-wireless-all-in-one-inkjet-printer/pixma-ts9120?tab=drivers_downloads
[10:34] <rory> https://tutorialforlinux.com/2018/11/20/how-to-install-canon-pixma-ts9120ts9140-driver-on-ubuntu-gnulinux/2/
[10:46] <chull> 7777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777
[10:52] <chalcedny> chull i see you
[10:53] <chalcedny> tomreyn, rory thank you much!
[11:03] <chull> tomreyn,  rory, he's getting errors with sudo apt update: https://pastebin.com/k1MHqySi
[11:04] <chull> we probably should fix it first?
[11:22] <rory> I dont think those are related to this. but yeah you have at some point,added a bunch of repositories and not accepted their signing key
[11:22] <rory> we can worry about that after
[11:26] <chull> tomreyn,  rory, Problems with step 3 it says: 3. Downloading Driver
[11:26] <chull> Download Canon TS9120/TS9140 Printer Linux Driver:  nothing seems to be clickable? Where to get the Linux driver?
[11:26] <rory> I thought you already had this file sorry
[11:27] <rory> i wouldnt download anything from that dodgy website anyway, get it from canon's website and just follow that website's instructions
[11:29] <chull> we got the cnijfilter*deb before
[11:30] <chull> the step says to download something else
[11:31] <chull> root@vir:~# ls /tmp/cnijfilter*deb
[11:31] <chull> ls: cannot access '/tmp/cnijfilter*deb': No such file or directory
[11:51] <geirha> try  ls /tmp/cnijfilter*deb*
[11:52] <geirha> looks like they've wrapped it in a tar.gz for some pointless reason
[11:52] <chull> geirha, it's not there, we need some other driver
[11:53] <geirha> are you sure you downloaded it to /tmp ?
[11:53] <chull> they have a linux driver for TS9050 https://canon-print.com/canon-printer-pixma-ts9050-drivers/
[11:54] <chull> not sure, actually
[11:55] <geirha> by default, it should end up in ~/Downloads/ (if english locale)
[11:56] <tomreyn> geirha: this is not an official website, i would not recommend downloading from there
[11:56] <chull> eew ok.
[11:57] <chull> root@vir:~# sudo apt install libxml2 libglade2-0 libpng3 libtiff5
[11:57] <tomreyn> the actual website for canon printer driver downloads is (as i posted before) https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/printers/inkjet-multifunction/ts-series-inkjet/pixma-ts9120-gray-wireless-all-in-one-inkjet-printer/pixma-ts9120?tab=drivers_downloads
[11:57] <chull> it went wherever it goes
[11:57] <geirha> mh, true, go to canon's own site
[11:57] <chull> ok
[11:57] <chull> thank you :)
[11:58] <tomreyn> chull: uuh your sources.list downt look good.
[11:58] <geirha> heh, they still have it wrapped in a tar.gz... stupid canon...
[11:58] <tomreyn> you mix apt respoitories from differen tuubntu releases, have many 3rd party repositories.
[12:00] <tomreyn> in addition to "xenial", i see "hardy", "vivid" and "unstable"
[12:00] <tomreyn> this can introduce all kinds of dependency issues.
[12:01] <tomreyn> and make you end up with outdated software
[12:01] <tomreyn> (where outdated = no security patches, insecure)
[12:01] <tomreyn> !hardy
[12:02] <tomreyn> !vivid
[12:02] <tomreyn> chull: so i'd recommend reinstalling, or at least removing those repositories and packages installed form there.
[12:08] <chull> tomreyn, yes i think that redoing his repository would probably be what we need to do, i don't know how it gets like that, we redid it before.
[12:08] <chull> the files are in Chull>printer>Canon>PIXMA>TS9120>PIXMA>TS9120>_printer
[12:08] <chull> that's where it extracts to
[12:09] <tomreyn> chull: apt repositories don't add themselves, they are added by the administrators only. and those should do careful consideration and regular reviews of any third party repositories they have configured.
[12:10] <tomreyn> chull: the file you extracted there was downloaded form where?
[12:10] <chull> my husband should read about repositories maybe
[12:11] <tomreyn> chull: since i assume he's not here you'd probably best tell him / send him an email to read up on it later.
[12:12] <chull> everything we actually downloaded for the printer is from the real canon site
[12:12] <chull> tomreyn, he's sitting beside me. he had a stroke in 1999 and can't speak or type. he reads.
[12:12] <tomreyn> i see. hello there!
[12:13] <chull> he smiles hi
[12:13] <tomreyn> so let's clean up your apt repositories first of all?
[12:13] <chull> ok that sounds good
[12:13] <tomreyn> this can take 10-30 minutes (roughly).
[12:14] <chull> probably 3 times that for us blundering and arguing :)
[12:14] <tomreyn> you posted the output of "apt-get update" earlier. start by looking at the warnings reported there.
[12:15] <chull> ok there's a gazillion of them, mostly that they don't have the right keys
[12:16] <tomreyn> those repositories with warnings do not actually work in this current state. i suggest you review which of them provide software you actually want to keep and then we can look into maybe finding better sources of the same software of making them work again.
[12:16] <tomreyn> warnings or errors
[12:16] <chull> ok we will take a look /me offers you peppermint chocolate chip ice cream if you want it
[12:16] <tomreyn> hehe, thanks
[12:16] <chull> :)
[12:17] <tomreyn> apt repositories are configured in /etc/apt/sources.list and in separate files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[12:18] <tomreyn> there is a graphical interface (GUI) for managing them which you can run with this command: software-properties-gtk --open-tab=1
[12:20] <tomreyn> usually these records / repository definitions consist of three parts: a URL, an ubuntu version name (such as "xenial"), and a software component (often "main)
[12:23] <tomreyn> i sould recommend disabling, maybe outright removing those which dont have a version name of "xenial", since those canbe for other ubuntu releases and may cause problems. you should not mix apt repositories for different ubuntu releases unless you have verified that this is definitely not an issue (there are some 3rd party repositories which provide pretty self-contained software which works across multiple ubuntu releases, and they dont provide
[12:23] <tomreyn> release specific builds).
[12:24] <chull> ok
[12:24] <chull> we were kind of looking through what he has
[12:24] <chull> let's see what software-properties-gtk --open-tab=1 does
[12:25] <tomreyn> good. going through this will take a while, feel free to ping me (i.e. write my nickname, tomreyn, here) when you're done (and feel free to post the output of "sudo apt-get update" again then)
[12:27] <chull> okies tomreyn, some things are stuff i don't recognize but they say Xenial
[12:27] <tomreyn> chull: can you give an example?
[12:28] <chull> tomreyn, atareao?
[12:29] <chull> Hit:31 http://ppa.launchpad.net/atareao/atareao/ubuntu xenial InRelease
[12:30] <chull> heh a grep xenial would give him acceptable things if we were using a vi type tool
[12:32] <tomreyn> chull: so the url of this is http://ppa.launchpad.net/atareao/atareao/ubuntu/ if you add the following to this url you get the address of a list of packages available in this repository: "dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz"
[12:33] <tomreyn> howerver, this list is in a crompressed file. here'S a command you can run on the terminal to get the list of packages it provides:
[12:33] <tomreyn> wget -qO- http://ppa.launchpad.net/atareao/atareao/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz | gunzip | awk '/^Package:/ {print $2}'
[12:33] <chull> great :)
[12:34] <chalcedny> t]
[12:35] <chull> he has used things from here before, like the weather indicator and national geographic wallpaper
[12:37] <tomreyn> chull: so while you go down the list of repositories installed you can take notes on why they were installed. and then later on you or we can look for alternative repositories provide the same functionality.
[12:37] <chull> ok
[12:38] <chull> cairo dock may not be supported, he loves cairo-dock
[12:39] <tomreyn> cairo dock is now called "glx dock", a web search tells me. maybe the repository loccation has changed.
[12:39] <tomreyn> in case you prefer working on a terminal, this should provide a list of non xenial repositories: grep -rlEv '^(#|.*xenial)' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | grep -v '.save$'
[12:40] <chull> tomreyn, you are awesome!
[12:40] <tomreyn> :) thanks.
[12:41] <chull> that didn't show a list?
[12:41] <tomreyn> hmm, maybe yours are all in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[12:42] <tomreyn> the command above dowsn't work on this file.
[12:42] <chull> ahh
[12:42] <tomreyn> ls -alh /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[12:43] <chull> great
[12:43] <tomreyn> ... shows you the repository configurations you have
[12:44] <chull> can we print it to less or more or something?
[12:44] <tomreyn> .save files are older 'backup' copies, you can just rm them to get a better overview
[12:44] <chull> ah
[12:44] <tomreyn> you can pipe anything to | less
[12:44] <chull> i'm rusty
[12:44] <tomreyn> cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | less
[12:45] <tomreyn> but then you wont know where those configurations are
[12:45] <chull> that's printing out the xenial ones
[12:45] <tomreyn> yes, all of you have
[12:45] <tomreyn> xenial and others
[12:46] <chull> no. it's just xenial no hardy etc
[12:47] <tomreyn> hmm, maybe you disabled the hardy ones already on the gui?
[12:47] <chull> not that i'm aware of
[12:48] <tomreyn> this lists files containing 'hardy': grep -rl hardy /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[12:49] <tomreyn> this lists files not containing "xenial" (same as before, you said there was no output?): grep -rlEv '^(#|.*xenial)' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | grep -v '.save$'
[12:49] <chull> yeah i don't see it. wonder if that gui did more than just look
[12:50] <tomreyn> i dont think the GUI does anything other than show the current state until you use it to make changes
[12:50] <tomreyn> but i have not reviewed its code
[12:54] <tomreyn> !info cairo-dock xenial
[12:54] <chull> awesome
[12:54] <tomreyn> so version 3.4.1 is in ubuntu itself (no need for a ppa if this version is sufficient)
[12:55] <chull> excellent
[12:55] <chull> we will have to see if it's what he wants
[12:56] <tomreyn> sure. this may be the case for other softwares you have ppas set up for, too. maybe the same or newer versions are actualyl available in ubuntu. you can check this here as i just did above, or talk to our channel bot ubottu directly using the same commands. or use the website: https://packages,ubuntu,com/ (see below for the search options)
[12:57] <tomreyn> i'll bbl ~ 30 mins
[12:57] <tomreyn> if you get bored, do this in the meantime https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages
[12:58] <chull> ok
[12:58] <chull> thanks have a good one
[12:59] <tomreyn> untracked packages don't have an upgrade path and are thus a potential security risk (they get no security fixes), but they also dont get bug fixes and new functionality.
[13:00] <chull> nod
[13:01] <chull> he may have installed a Debian package (.deb file) directly using the 'dpkg' command.
[13:11] <anilkaradag> hi there; is there any way to disable MSI for only ahci not all pci
[13:12] <rhagu> hi I am running two m1015 raid controllers in my server, I am seeing all hdds in /dev/by-id proberly except for two which are garbled, any ideas what I can look at next?
[13:14] <chalcedny> i'm over here, chull is taking a short break
[13:24] <TJ-> anilkaradag: possibly, although things may break. echo 0 > /sys/bus/pci/devices/<path-to-device/msi_bus" - read first https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/PCI/MSI-HOWTO.txt
[13:25] <reallymemorable> Whats the equivalent of tail -f nohup.out that will start at the tail but allow me to scroll up?
[13:25] <geirha> less can follow too
[13:25] <matsaman> +F
[13:25] <geirha> less nohup.out   then shift+f to start following
[13:26] <matsaman> | less +F should also work, IIRC
[13:27] <cryptodan> if this is for troubleshooting something, then i would grep for what you are trying to find out and redirect the output to a file and analyze the file for whatever you want to troubleshoot
[13:27] <reallymemorable> ok tahnks
[13:28] <reallymemorable> it appears my script running the background hit an error
[13:28] <reallymemorable> i got to the bottom with less nohup.out and shift + f
[13:28] <reallymemorable> but it wont let me scroll up
[13:28] <geirha> ctrl+c to abort follow mode
[13:29] <geirha> so what you really wanted was shift+g which just moves you to the end of the file without following
[13:29] <reallymemorable> ah ok
[13:29] <reallymemorable> This is my error: `ERROR 1: JSON parsing error: buffer size overflow (at offset 0)`
[13:29] <reallymemorable> Does this mean I ran out of memory?
[13:31] <geirha> more likely the json has some key or value that is larger than some arbitrary limit in the json parser
[13:33] <reallymemorable> Thats weird though because I ran this exact bash file to handle these geojsons from an osx laptop and it worked fine.  Now I have it in an ubuntu EC2 instance and it's hitting an error.
[13:33] <reallymemorable> Unless GDAL for Ubuntu is different from GDAL for OSX
[13:34] <tomreyn> chull: i'm back, ping me if you need anything else
[13:34] <geirha> check the version difference. Could be the one in Ubuntu is older and has a bug that's fixed in newer versions
[13:34] <reallymemorable> got it
[13:34] <reallymemorable> so that might mean i just cant do it from ubuntu
[13:35] <reallymemorable> because i installed GDAL on this instance myself
[13:35] <reallymemorable> so I assume it got the newest version
[13:36] <reallymemorable> GDAL 2.2.3, released 2017/11/20 vs GDAL 2.3.1, released 2018/06/22
[13:36] <reallymemorable> The versions are different
[13:36] <chull> tomreyn we definitely need you :)
[13:36] <chull> tomreyn, error when we tried to run your script: The volume “Filesystem root” has only 73.7 KB disk space remaining.
[13:36] <chull> You can free up disk space by removing programs or files or by moving files to another disk or partition.The volume “Filesystem root” has only 73.7 KB disk space remaining.
[13:36] <chull> You can free up disk space by removing programs or files or by moving files to another disk or partition.
[13:37] <geirha> searching the error message, I found this: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/gdal-dev-Exporting-large-geojsons-to-postgis-using-ogr2ogr-td5341035.html  which suggests it was fixed in november 2017, but perhaps it didn't make it to the 2.2.3 version
[13:37] <reallymemorable> Noooooo
[13:37] <reallymemorable> Ok thanks
[13:37] <chull> i'm thinking it would be easiest (not that it's approved anymore, to just delete the hardy repository and maybe others, can i do that manually?
[13:37] <reallymemorable> Have to figure out how to update gdal now
[13:38] <chull> #### Yuuguu - http://yuuguu.com
[13:38] <chull> deb http://update.yuuguu.com/repositories/apt hardy multiverse
[13:38] <reallymemorable> geirha: it does appear to be related to RAM
[13:39] <reallymemorable> but also teh version
[13:39] <geirha> reallymemorable: yeah
[13:39] <tomreyn> chull: yes, you can just rename the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d to *.disabled (or anythig other than .list really) and they will be ignored (with a warning)
[13:39] <reallymemorable> how do i update a package (gdal) in Ubuntu?
[13:39] <tomreyn> chull: alternatively create a directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d.disabled and move them there. or just delete them.
[13:39] <reallymemorable> i tried apt-get update gdal
[13:40] <geirha> reallymemorable: the package version is locked, so you'd have to install it from a different source
[13:40] <reallymemorable> like pull it directly from github or something?
[13:41] <chalcedny> tomreyn, i think we filled up his root directory with printer stuff
[13:41] <tomreyn> chull: the main issue is that the root file system (mounted at "/") has run full. as the message said, you will need to delete some  software or take other measures to recover from this. the graphical "baobab" software can help you identify what is taking space.
[13:42] <chull> tomreyn, i'll look up baobab?
[13:43] <tomreyn> chalcedny: the printer drivers hardly took much space. run "df -h" and "sudo parted -ls" to get an idea of which file systems are mount, and which disks you have attached and where you may have space left.
[13:45] <geirha> reallymemorable: the easiest would be using a PPA, if there is one
[13:45] <tomreyn> chull: you can install baobab using "sudo apt install baobab" - but not right now since the disk is full, wait until we recovered some space. maybe it is already installed, then just run it using "baobab". if it's not installed,
[13:45] <tomreyn> actually you should run baobab with sudo: "sudo baobab"
[13:46] <geirha> to see where the size is used from a terminal, you can   cd / && sudo du -haxd1 . | sort -h  , then cd into the largest dir and run sudo du -haxd1 . | sort -h again. Rince and repeat until you find some large files you can remove
[13:47] <reallymemorable> geirha: ok thanks
[13:47] <maeud> Hi, can anyone help me with a preseed issue, it fails when trying to install the grub bootloader. Here is the partman section of my preseed file: https://pastebin.com/raw/F265bZgw
[13:47] <chull> tomreyn, he did have baobab, it's showing he's pretty full, is there a way to see what he's got there?
[13:48] <maeud> The error is: "Volume group sda not found" then next line "Cannot process volume group sda"
[13:48] <maeud> I also have in my preseed: "d-i grub-installer/bootdev string /dev/sda1" but that's ignored
[13:48] <maeud> if I chroot into /target and run parted, I can see /boot is on /dev/sda1
[13:48] <maeud> but grub fails to install...
[13:49] <tomreyn> chull: there are those triangles you can use to expand an entry showing subdirectories. and when you right-click a subdirectory you can open it in a graphical file browser to inspect the directory contents
[13:49] <tomreyn> chull: but geirha's suggestion is good, too,makes it easier to share the output with us here.
[13:50] <tomreyn> obviously deleting (moving to trash) files on the / file system is dangerous, since it can be impotant system files
[13:53] <tomreyn> some directories on / where you may find files to delete: /var/cache/apt /tmp /var/tmp
[13:53] <chull> tomreyn, i think he's saying that he needs to move some files
[13:54] <tomreyn> sure, maybe you have some space elsewhere...
[13:55] <chull> i think he does he is saying 150 gb and it's only 70 full but in the wrong parts
[13:55] <bobrosswins> I'm having sound issues on 18.04. Same as this user. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1097694/buzzy-sound-msi-b450-mortar-ubuntu-18-04
[13:55] <chull> and then again maybe something filled up things that he didn't mean to get
[13:56] <bobrosswins> Anything I can do?
[13:56] <bobrosswins> Tried disabling pulse audio
[13:56] <bobrosswins> Nothing seems to work
[13:56] <chull> he is a gui person, is there a file visualizer in ubuntu?
[13:57] <tomreyn> !sound | bobrosswins
[13:58] <tomreyn> chull: "nautilus" is the default file browser on gnome
[13:58] <maeud> is there a trigger for my issue tomreyn :(
[13:58] <bobrosswins> ubottu, what am I looking for specifically?
[13:59] <tomreyn> maeud: no. apparently the issue is that the installer thinks sda is a LVM2 VG. i' not that much into preseeding, so i'm not really able to help.
[14:00] <tomreyn> bobrosswins: i don't really know. i think there is #alsa also, you could try there. or tra a different kernel version see if it makes a difference.
[14:01] <bobrosswins> tomreyn, i'm new to ubuntu. used to installing realtek drivers on windows
[14:01] <bobrosswins> is that a thing on linux?
[14:01] <bobrosswins> or should it just work
[14:01] <tomreyn> chull: nautilus should also spawn from baobab when you right-click on the directories and select "open folder" there.
[14:01] <chull> tomreyn, i think something is growing in his computer, he just tried to save a file and it won't.
[14:01] <chull> ok thanks
[14:01] <tomreyn> bobrosswins: most of the time things just work on linux. sometimes they don't then a newer kernel sometimes helps.
[14:02] <bobrosswins> how do i do that?
[14:02] <bobrosswins> update the kernal
[14:02] <tomreyn> !hwe | bobrosswins
[14:07] <chull> tomreyn, would apt-get autoremove canon  get rid of it?
[14:08] <tomreyn> bobrosswins: there seem to be multiple MSI boards which are based on the B450 chipset, which is yours?
[14:08] <bobrosswins> tomahawk
[14:08] <bobrosswins> updated the kernal and restarted. same issue. ergh.
[14:08] <tomreyn> chull: get rid of what? this command would fail, since the "autoremove" action does not take any arguments
[14:09] <chull> tomreyn, yes, ok.. and we don't really know if whatever is filling up his drive rapidly is canon, but if it causes the computer to crash it won't be good
[14:10] <chull> whatever is happening is unexpected
[14:12] <tomreyn> chull: why do you think something is constantly filling it up, did you delete anything, yet, is the value for "used" in the output produced by the "df /" command constantly rising if you run it repeatedly?
[14:13] <chull> (baobab:5741): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into '/home/chull/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to write file '/home/chull/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.ZTIUUZ': write() failed: No space left on device
[14:13] <chull> we are seeing other errors as well from time to time
[14:13] <tomreyn> chull: this is expected as long as the disk remains full
[14:14] <tomreyn> i mean the / file sytem, not the disk
[14:15] <tomreyn> moving files to trash (which you can do with baobab) does not immediately delete them and so doe snot immediately recover space.
[14:15] <tomreyn> you will still need to purge the trash, which you can do from nautilus.
[14:16] <tomreyn> actually baobab moves directories / folders to trash, not single files
[14:17] <tomreyn> bobrosswins: did you reboot after installing the HWE kernel?
[14:17] <bobrosswins> yep
[14:18] <chull> Filesystem                  1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[14:18] <bobrosswins> thanks for trying to help
[14:18] <bobrosswins> i'm at a loss
[14:20] <tomreyn> bobrosswins: you're welcome. sorry, i'm not good at helping with audio issues, which is why i pointed to documentation and to the #alsa channel here on freenode. maybe also try a bios update, since this board is soemwhat new and there are several such updates. the last thing i can think of is http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html - might also help, not sure.
[14:20] <tomreyn> bobrosswins: bios updates are at https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-TOMAHAWK#down-bios
[14:21] <tomreyn> chull: you posted one line there, which is the first line the "df" command prints. it's a generic table header.
[14:22] <tomreyn> chull: you can pipe command output to either the "pastebinit" or "nc termbin.com 9999" commands. example: df / | pastebinit
[14:22] <tomreyn> chull: this will return a URL which you can then post here.
[14:22] <chalcedny> hmmm
[14:22] <chalcedny> let me see if i can ssh to his
[14:24] <tomreyn> chull / chalcedny: the warning message baobab printed suggests that the home directory, where you users' files are stored, is on the same file system as the operating system. this means that you may actually want to just delete or move (such as to external storage, like a usb disk) some files in your home directory to recover space.
[14:28] <chalcedny> tomreyn, df / only gives me that one line
[14:29] <chalcedny> ~$ df -h /
[14:29] <chalcedny> Filesystem                   Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[14:29] <tomreyn> chalcedny: strange, never seen that. try just "df"
[14:29] <chalcedny>  /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root  886G  841G     0 100% /
[14:29] <chalcedny> laughing
[14:29] <chalcedny> the  / makes it a command
[14:29] <tomreyn> chalcedny: ah right
[14:29] <tomreyn> chalcedny: this is outpout from "df -h /", though
[14:30] <chalcedny> yes
[14:30] <chalcedny> df  /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root 928081392 880914520         0 100% /
[14:30] <tomreyn> chalcedny: 841 GB of data are stored on this disk. exactly 0 bytes are available.
[14:31] <chalcedny> tomreyn, he's having a headache and doesn't know what he wants to do
[14:32] <tomreyn> chalcedny: i'd start a file browser (nautilus) and look through the Downloads folder and see what's not strictly necessary / can be easily re-downloaded.
[14:34] <chalcedny> trying navigating to downloads with ssh
[14:34] <tomreyn> ls /home/*/Downloads
[14:34] <chalcedny> ~$ /ls /home/*/Downloads
[14:34] <chalcedny> -bash: /ls: No such file or directory
[14:35] <tomreyn> chalcedny: you have an extra leading slash
[14:35] <chalcedny> without the slash it returns nothing too
[14:35] <chalcedny> ~$ ls /home/*/Downloads
[14:36] <tomreyn> chalcedny: cd / && sudo du -haxd1 . | sort -h
[14:37] <tomreyn> we're just inspecting, not making any changes.
[14:39] <tomreyn> chalcedny: if you pipe this into "pastebinit" or "nc termbin.com 9999" and post the url here we can suggest what to do next.
[14:39] <chull> 21M	./etc
[14:39] <chull> 43M	./tmp
[14:39] <chull> 926M	./lib
[14:40] <tomreyn> !paste | chull
[14:40] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | chull
[14:42] <chull> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qSQgQZSdWJ/
[14:42] <chull> (i knew we had pastebinit in here)
[14:43] <tomreyn> chull: so of the 841GB stored on the disk, 824GB are in /home. that's a lot - is this expected? maybe there is something there which is not strictly needed?
[14:44] <tomreyn> chull: now look more closely into what's in /home: cd /home && sudo du -haxd1 . | sort -h | pastebinit
[14:46] <chull> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QgnQzpK4xr/
[14:47] <tomreyn> chull: so there is only your user, and all this space is allocated in there. more details: cd /home/chull && sudo du -haxd1 . | sort -h | pastebinit
[14:47] <tomreyn> i.e. you traverse into the subdirectories, get the idea?
[14:52] <irgendwer4711> hi, how to clean up zeitgeist database? e.g. shrinken to one month
[14:53] <tomreyn> irgendwer4711: there should be a GUI for this
[14:53] <irgendwer4711> tomreyn: which gui?
[14:54] <chull> tomreyn, i do.. working with him to figure out where things are
[14:54] <tomreyn> irgendwer4711: depends on what you are running there, i guess
[14:54] <irgendwer4711> tomreyn: xubuntu
[14:54] <tomreyn> irgendwer4711: version 999?
[14:54] <irgendwer4711> irgendwer4711: 18.10.999
[14:54] <tomreyn> irgendwer4711: talking to yourself, eh? :)
[14:55] <irgendwer4711> sometimes
[14:55] <tomreyn> i have (default gnome3) ubuntu 18.04 here, but i think it should be available from xubuntu system properties as well
[14:55] <tomreyn> look for a "privacy" option there
[14:56] <irgendwer4711> tomreyn: ahhh
[14:57] <irgendwer4711> "clear usage data"
[14:57] <tomreyn> possibly
[15:01] <maeud> Anyone here good with preseeding?
[15:01] <maeud> can't install grub, volume group sda not found
[15:01] <tomreyn> maeud: there is also #ubuntu-server in case you'd like to try your luck there, too.
[15:01] <maeud> Thanks tomreyn
[15:04] <chull> tomreyn, is this stuff that can be gotten rid of?
[15:04] <chull> chull@vir:/tmp$ ls -l | pastebinit
[15:04] <chull> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SDMTyttkhC/
[15:04] <tomreyn> irgendwer4711: activity-log-manager-control-center is what i meant
[15:04] <irgendwer4711> tomreyn: I have got a activity-log-manager
[15:05] <tomreyn> irgendwer4711: may work, too, but i'm not sure it has a GUI
[15:05] <irgendwer4711> it has
[15:06] <tomreyn> chull: hard to tell.. these are directories in /tmp/, i can't tell what's in them precisely. mayabe have a look at /tmp/timeshift, this is non standard, i think
[15:08] <chull> tomreyn, it's mv /trash/ or how?
[15:08] <tomreyn> chull: i suspect timeshift is this https://github.com/teejee2008/timeshift ? it may store important state data on your backups, then
[15:09] <chull> yes, and he says he doesn't need it
[15:09] <tomreyn> chull: if you identified something you (really!) know is safe to delete, then delete it right away: sudo rm /path/tp/something
[15:09] <tomreyn> chull: if you identified something you (really!) know is safe to delete, then delete it right away: sudo rm /path/to/something
[15:10] <chull> tomreyn, if i'm in the directory it will just delete it?
[15:10] <tomreyn> this works only with files, not with entire directories.
[15:10] <chull> ah yeah
[15:10] <chull> it's actually remdir no?
[15:11] <tomreyn> chull: to delete a directory, move out of the directory ("cd ..") and delete the directory recursively. but this is a very dangerous operation, so mayke sure you have no typos: sudo rm -r /path/to/directory
[15:11] <tomreyn> also, only use "sido" if you really have to.
[15:11] <tomreyn> *sudo
[15:11] <isene> Is there a way to tell libinput/touchpad to be less sensitive to motion while I tap? It seems a bit too sensitive to finger motion while tapping as it misses more taps now that I've upgraded from 18.04 to 18.10.
[15:15] <irgendwer4711> tomreyn: it does not shrink :-D
[15:15] <tomreyn> irgendwer4711: you may need to vacuum it, or wait for it to happen automatically
[15:16] <irgendwer4711> I did that too
[15:16] <tomreyn> irgendwer4711: maybe just uninstall it then
[15:16] <irgendwer4711> this is the last options
[15:16] <irgendwer4711> tomreyn: I think zeitgeist-fts is the main problem
[15:18] <Kazdax> should i use synaptic packager to remove apps or the shell ?
[15:19] <tomreyn> irgendwer4711: sorry, can't help, i dont use it myself
[15:19] <tomreyn> Kazdax: either is fine.
[15:19] <tomreyn> Kazdax: that's if, by "the shell", you mean apt
[15:21] <Kazdax> yes i meant apt
[15:22] <tomreyn> Kazdax: personally i prefer the terminal since this ensures you don'T miss any warnings which are maybe not transported to the GUI.
[15:22] <Kazdax> yup
[15:25] <tomreyn> chull / chalcedny any luck finding something to delete, yet?
[15:26] <chull> tomreyn, he is (when he's awake) actually very very good with computers. today is not a good day.
[15:26] <tomreyn> looking at what you posted earlier - http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qSQgQZSdWJ/ - there might be something to delete in /opt and somewhere below /var , too.
[15:26] <chull> tomreyn, he's asking ME how to do things .. is nuts.
[15:26] <tomreyn> also /core can be deleted right away is this is a file
[15:27] <tomreyn> chull: alright, maybe just let it sit for another day, wont hurt ;-)
[15:27] <chull> tomreyn, how does he move it from /tmp/ to trash? (i hate that it's been so lonjg for me and ubuntu keeps stuff in different places
[15:28] <tomreyn> Trash is actually a hidden directory in the users' home directory, i think
[15:30] <tomreyn> so it *may* be /home/chull/.Trash or /home/chull/.config/Trash or something
[15:31] <tomreyn> actually it's /home/chull/.local/share/Trash/files
[15:31] <tomreyn> but if you delete it with the file browser then the file browser will record more info on when it was deleted and where it used to be stored, so that it can be moved back
[15:32] <tomreyn> this would then go into /home/chull/.local/share/Trash/info/
[15:33] <tomreyn> chull: so you could move files to Trash from the terminal (using the "mv" command), but i'd recommend you also create a meta data file if you do, otherwise it may not show up on the GUI
[15:34] <chalcedny> nice
[15:34] <chalcedny> how does he get root to move files with the graphical interface?
[15:34] <tomreyn> sudo nautilus
[15:35] <chalcedny> sweet
[15:35] <tomreyn> but be careful about what you're moving with root
[15:36] <tomreyn> also note that using GUI tools like nautilus with sudo will often create files in /root, they are usually small, but it's cruft you may want to remove later
[15:36] <tomreyn> sudo ls -lah /root
[15:36] <chalcedny> hehe
[15:37] <chalcedny> he seems happier
[15:37] <tomreyn> :)
[15:48] <tomreyn> chalcedny / chull: i have to leave for a while, talk to you later!
[15:53] <ironhalik> hello - quick question - can I do apt-get update, to only update a single repo? I want to download only the main repo list
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> ironhalik: whats the purpose of that?
[15:54] <chalcedny> have a good one tomreyn we sure appreciate you :)
[15:55] <ironhalik> lotuspsychje: the purpose is to update only the main repo. I'm doing a docker entrypoint that needs to do apt-get update, and I dont want to pull all the PPAs, universe, backports etc
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | tomreyn
[15:55] <chalcedny> he sure does!
[15:55] <chalcedny> ice cream too! and cherries on top
[15:57] <ironhalik> looks like you can manually specify a source list file, via Dir::Etc::sourcelist option - but you cant specify particular repo
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> ironhalik: its not really reccomended to keep packages no up to date, not sure why you dont wanna have universe or backports left behind?
[15:58] <ironhalik> lotuspsychje: ahh, coz I only need the latest linux-headers and I know I already have everything up to date - generally its a niche use case where I'm optimizing docker container startup time
[15:58] <ironhalik> but I sadly still need to pull linux-headers at run time (the kernel might differ between runs)
[16:52] <r4co0n> I am desperately trying to preseed the keyboard configuration for 18.04 bionic using a packer (with virtualbox) starting from a netinstall. What I'm using is here: https://github.com/r4co0n/packer-ubuntu-18.04/
[16:54] <r4co0n> I always end up with an English layout, which I can successfully reconfigure to German using `dpkg- reconfigure keyboard-configuration`.
[16:55] <r4co0n> (I mean `dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration`)
[16:55] <tomreyn> d-i keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap select de
[16:55] <tomreyn> d-i keyboard-configuration/layoutcode string de
[16:55] <tomreyn> r4co0n: should be this
[16:55] <r4co0n> I tried getting everything keyboard-configuration related afterwards with `debconf-get-selections`
[16:56] <r4co0n> tomreyn, I am quite sure I've tried those, but let's see...
[16:56] <tomreyn> d-i keymap select de
[16:56] <tomreyn> this also
[16:56] <r4co0n> debconf-get-selection always show the long values, 'Danish' and the like...
[16:57] <tomreyn> debian installer and debconf are not the same thing
[16:57] <r4co0n> tomreyn, keymap is just shorthand for keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap, or am I mistaken?
[16:58] <tomreyn> i think keymap is tty, xkb-keymap is X
[16:58] <r4co0n> I'm coming from Debian, and there this method of extracting preseed values is what's documented and (mostly) working.
[16:59] <r4co0n> I'll report back after rebuilding with your 3 lines.
[16:59] <qwebirc16206> Hi there! I am trying to install Ubuntu server 18.04 on my machine with 2 HDDs.
[16:59] <r4co0n> I am not mistaken when I drop the 'd-i' prefix and use these as boot parameters?
[17:00] <r4co0n> I will later try to move as much back to the preseed file, I just want a working poc.
[17:00] <j0seph> Can anyone explain why installing HexChat (from the ubuntu-cosmic-universe repo, not the Snap / Flatpak store) via Ubuntu Software allows me to minimise hexchat to tray, but installing it with apt via the terminal (sudo apt install hexchat) gives a version that doesn't come with this?
[17:00] <qwebirc16206> I try to setup the RAID 1 during the installation, but I always get curtin command block-meta error.
[17:01] <qwebirc16206> I tried wiping the disks, putting new GPTs, but it didn't help.
[17:02] <tomreyn> r4co0n: i dont know whether boot parameters work.
[17:02] <qwebirc16206> I will post the images in a second...
[17:02] <qwebirc16206> Any idea what could be going on?
[17:04] <r4co0n> tomreyn, there is some documentation saying locale-related stuff has to be pre-seeded early, and I think what is happening now is that the boot parameter `locale=en_GB` is used for keyboard configuration, bar all the 'de'-Layout related settings in `ubuntu.json`'s boot_command and `http/preseed.cfg`'s settings.
[17:04] <tomreyn> j0seph: maybe it was just not considered for the deb. post a feature request or patch against the package.
[17:04] <qwebirc16206> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dfw_TpcUDGbepl4sO5arQ97Tc-SNUrHn
[17:04] <TJ-> j0seph: possibly the system default has --no-install-recommends but software centre installs Recommends?
[17:04] <qwebirc16206> Please help...
[17:05] <r4co0n> tomreyn, I will try with the values in both places, it won't hurt I suppose...
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc16206: join #ubuntu-server please
[17:06] <j0seph> tomreyn, TJ-, you both make good points. TJ-, how do I check if --no-install-recommends is enabled by default?
[17:07] <tomreyn> qwebirc16206: what's the exact file name of the ISO file you created the installer from?
[17:09] <qwebirc16206> tomreyn: I have no idea anymore. I have created the bootable usb a couple of days ago. The ISO was downloaded through the official website though...
[17:10] <tomreyn> qwebirc16206: do you still have the installation media?
[17:11] <TJ-> j0seph: you can tell when doing the "apt-get install" because, if it isn't going to install Recommends, it'll list the Recommends that /could/ have been installed, but won't be - if that makes sense!
[17:12] <TJ-> j0seph: On my system for example I have:  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/05-no-install-recommends:1:APT::Install-Recommends "false";
[17:12] <TJ-> j0seph: that's my specific choice though, not a default. Try "grep -rn Recommends /etc/apt" to see if yours has a setting
[17:13] <qwebirc16206> romreyn: yes I do
[17:14] <tomreyn> qwebirc16206: whats in /.disk/info ?
[17:14] <j0seph> TJ-: Ah yes, I've seen that before! Thanks for the friendly advice, I think I'll go enable that now :) And no, I do not have such a setting it seems.
[17:15] <TJ-> j0seph: if you do "apt-cache show hexchat" You'll also see some "Suggests:" packages (as well as "Recommends:") I doubt those would have the effect you asked about but it is useful to know these things. Usually, Recommends are installed by default but Suggests are not, without using --install-suggests
[17:16] <tomreyn> qwebirc16206: i notice you're now discussing this in #ubuntu-server, so i'll move there
[17:17] <qwebirc16206> ok
[17:19] <j0seph> Ah, yes, I do have the packages it recommends, so I do have that feature enabled. However, I don't have the suggests. Thanks for clearing that up for me! Also, I spoke with TingPing (Hexchat Author) in #hexchat and he says that me installing TopIcons Plus is what enabled this functionality.
[17:19] <j0seph> So maybe I was overcomplicating things. Heh.
[17:21] <j0seph> TJ-: Thanks again for your help!
[17:24] <r4co0n> tomreyn, I owe you, it works now. Thanks a bunch :)))
[17:25] <r4co0n> Now I just have to figure out which of those redundant lines I can drop, but I already thought about writing a script for testing this piece-by-piece.
[17:30] <pikapika> Hi
[17:31] <pikapika> While installing via apt, is there a way to specify the particular PPA if a package exists in multiple PPAs?
[17:31] <pikapika> The software in question exists both in the official Ubuntu repos
[17:31] <pikapika> and has its own PPA with the latest version
[17:31] <pikapika> I want the latter
[17:32] <jhutchins_wk> pikapika: -t <repo> should work, that's how you do backports.
[17:33] <TJ-> pikapika: the latest version should always be installe,d barring any apt pinning. Use "apt-cache policy <package-name>" to see the installation candidate
[17:35] <tomreyn> r4co0n: you're welcome
[17:36] <tda> i thought ppa packages could not have the same name as a package in an official repo
[17:36] <tomreyn> sure, they can
[17:37] <TJ-> tda: that's the most common scenario - PPA packages in place of (older) archive packages
[17:46] <itguys> I'm considering Ubuntu for my server. What strengths does it have vs other distributions? I'm trying to find the most stable distribution for wireguard and Nextcloud.
[17:48] <OerHeks> stable = LTS, so 18.04 LTS will be fine.
[17:50] <DexDeadly> any one using s3fs
[17:50] <OerHeks> DexDeadly, amazon does
[17:51] <DexDeadly> sorry the s3fs_fuse
[18:01] <tomreyn> itguys: wireguard is not considered stable by its developers, yet. but i assume you mean 'stable' as in reliably running, with an upgrade path. then i guess you're fine with ubuntu.
[18:01] <itguys> tomreyn: Yeah. That's what I meant. I meant with the OS, not the service. Thank you.
[18:03] <itguys> tomreyn: I didn't realize the whole protocol wasn't considered stable yet (just saw that the Android app wasn't), so maybe I might want to wait anyway. Thanks for the heads up.
[18:03] <tomreyn> yw
[18:05] <tomreyn> the notice on the website isn't that obvious, but then, there are a lot ofsoftwares and services which their developers don't consider stable but others would. such as tor (was considered 'unstable' for a long time), gmail (was considered 'beta' for a long time). on the other hand, for this (VPN) application, you probably want it really stable and secure.
[18:07] <itguys> tomreyn: Yeah. I'm seeing if it's stable enough. Might just want to go with OpenVPN for now. I would like this to be as stable as possible, but it's just for my personal network, not a production one so some failure is ok as long as it's not decrypted. I have a lot of research to do.
[18:09] <pikapika> TJ-, nope, that command lists the older package from the Ubuntu repos
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> pikapika: we dont really reccomend adding external ppa's in the first place
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> pikapika: to avoid packages and dependencys scrambled up
[18:10] <pikapika> Normally true, but its supplied by VLC only for VLC
[18:10] <pikapika> and the one in the repos here is ancient tbh
[18:13] <Captain_Haddock> I'm trying to access a failing/failed SSD. It had started acting up a few weeks ago and was replaced. I was able to access it for about 5 minutes just now (via USB) before it failed. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fRNJd4xNMf/
[18:14] <Captain_Haddock> Any idea if I can repair this somehow?
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> Captain_Haddock: wich brand of ssd is this
[18:17] <tda> I see it got the capacity, but not the partition table. you may still be able to use recovery software if it is indeed still readable. consider the fs lost
[18:17] <Ool> Captain_Haddock: usually it's better to dump the fail device before trying to act on it, (just plug as R/O ,dump it with dd, and try something on the dump not the original)
[18:17] <rushikesh> Why gnome is default for ubuntu not other desktop?
[18:18] <Captain_Haddock> lotuspsychje: It's a Kingston. Do you want the model number?
[18:18] <Captain_Haddock> Ool: That sounds like a great idea. Will I be able to do that if I see read errors?
[18:19] <tda> you should use ddrescue to read around the errors if there are any
[18:19] <NTQ> Hi. Is there a way to check the reason why gnome-shell is consuming to much CPU time even if I am not doing much?
[18:19] <Captain_Haddock> This is the output from smartctl -a when the drive was directly connected a few days ago. it's currently connect via a USB enclosure.
[18:19] <Captain_Haddock> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/96FK8WzyX7/
[18:20]  * Captain_Haddock reads up on ddrescue
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> rushikesh: ubuntu desktop has now gnome by default, you can still choose or install other !flavors
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> NTQ: htop
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> NTQ: on older systems, gnome-shell will rise high on cpu/mem
[18:22] <tda> typical SMART. reallocated sectors, can't read the test logs, 'no errors logged'
[18:22] <NTQ> lotuspsychje: And then what? I already know that it is consuming too much CPU. I need to know why. Is it an issue with graphics, i/o, network, someething totaly unrelated...
[18:22] <tda> you MAY be able to get stuff back with dd/ddrescue/recovery software, but this is pretty typical failure pattern for SSD/USB. this is why you have backups.
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> NTQ: how about you start with sharing your system specs first?
[18:24] <Captain_Haddock> tda: Most of it is backed up. There is just one data folder that I've missed :(
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> NTQ: your system up to date? kernel version? ubuntu version?
[18:24] <NTQ> lotuspsychje: Of course. Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, Kernel 4.15.0-43-generic x86_64, 24 GB RAM, Intel Core i7-3820QM @ 2.7 GHz, Nvidia Quadro K2000M 2 GB
[18:24] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: Because you've got the device connected via USB, the system cannot use the required ATA commands to query the SMART data fully. There are options to smartctl to potentially enable better operation through a USB<>SATA bridge
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> with those specs gnome should be rocknroll NTQ
[18:25] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: see "man smartctl" and the --device options
[18:26] <Captain_Haddock> TJ-: Hi :) Is that worth doing now?
[18:26] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: well, it depends on how the device was/is failing
[18:28] <Captain_Haddock> TJ-: That can be gauged only via smartctl?
[18:28] <NTQ> I also think so. But it doesn't. Is it because I am using the nvidia drivers? Should I use nouveau? Wayland is not an alternative, there are issues with applications that require root privileges.
[18:28] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: I suspect the firmware has been knobbled... read this! https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/937255-25-ssd-become-satafirm-s11/
[18:29] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: seems to be a common issue: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-3558694/ssd-drive-suddenly-unallocated-111-free-space.html
[18:29] <Captain_Haddock> Same vendor huh?
[18:29] <Captain_Haddock> Or is that a generic name?
[18:33] <Captain_Haddock> TJ-: My drive is a Kingston SSDNow A400 120GB. This is the same one noted by kom51k23s in your tomshardware link.
[18:33] <Captain_Haddock> "By this moment I've found a lot of information about it issue and the disk needs updating (firmware updating). "
[18:34] <Captain_Haddock> I don't think I've ever updated or had to update the firmware for a disk drive.
[18:35] <pikapika> jhutchins_wk, what do I have to supply to the -t option?
[18:36] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: the device name "SATAFIRM   S11" appears when the device's firmware has been damaged/corrupted/disappeared
[18:36] <jhutchins_wk> pikapika: I would guess the name of the repo from the sources.list
[18:36] <jhutchins_wk> pikapika: This is not something I've tested myself.
[18:38] <NTQ> Just found out that cpu usage drops significantly if I disable showing the seconds on the clock in the top panel with the tweak tool.
[18:40] <Etua> Hello, I'm on my way to setup a home server on a new machine and I decided to try Ubuntu Server with it's contenerization and virtualization. Is there any reason to use standard Ubuntu Server over MASS? Is the latter suitable only for scalable environments with multiple machines or can it be reasonable on only one bare-metal server?
[18:40] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: read especially comment #8 here, interesting background, and a glimmer of a possible fix http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=158083
[18:41] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: Seems like S11 (or S??) is the current FW version
[18:43] <Captain_Haddock> TJ-: Reading. Thanks.
[18:46] <Captain_Haddock> TJ-: Looks like this is the firmware updater: https://www.kingston.com/en/support/technical/ssdmanager
[18:46] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: looks like someone else with that same device on Ubuntu too: https://ubuntuforum-br.org/index.php?topic=123423.0
[18:46] <Captain_Haddock> Windows only. My only windows machine is an ollllld laptop. I hope it will work if I use the USB enclosure.
[18:47] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: probably not
[18:47] <Captain_Haddock> TJ-: They recommend testdisk too :( TIL of the existence of ddrescue, testdisk, scalpel, and foremost.
[18:48] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: as it says, it needs AHCI mode
[18:49] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: you could try issuing direct ATA commands to read specific sectors using hdparm, just in case it can succeed where others fail
[18:50] <Captain_Haddock> TJ-: As others have suggested, I'll first try to copy the drive if possible (with ddrescue) before trying anything destructive.
[18:52] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock:I've found a hacking site where it indicates the problem is the storage control is made by phison and is know for this problem; looks like they even created a firmware patcher that possibly works
[18:55] <Captain_Haddock> TJ-: for Linux?
[18:56] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: no; I'm looking for clues as to how it failed the way it has. Seems the controller is "Phison PS3111SB" and searching for that gets some better results. Still only gathering background details but helpful to know what you're dealing with
[18:59] <RahulAN> Hi All
[18:59] <RahulAN> I have install lxdm and made lxdm default.. Now i get lxdm login screen , How can i revert it back to GNOME Desktop ?
[19:00] <tda> there should be an option for that at the login screen
[19:01] <RahulAN> tda: Yes it is there.. But i need my gnome Login , instead of lxdm
[19:01] <tda> so you're trying to chnage the login screen, not the desktop environment you login to?
[19:03] <RahulAN> tda:  Yes correct ..
[19:03] <tda> https://askubuntu.com/questions/152256/how-do-i-switch-from-lightdm-to-gdm
[19:03] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: looks like this Phison PS3111-S11 controller has a fault; it's used in lots of different manufacturers devices and the reports are all similar. This review mentions the controller: http://gearopen.com/computers/kingston-a400-ssd-240-gb-review-72660/
[19:05] <RahulAN> tda: Cool that worked .. Let me reboot and check
[19:07] <RahulAN> tda: Thanks :) It worked
[19:09] <Captain_Haddock> TJ-: Cheers. I'm trying to see how I can upgrade the firmware.
[19:10] <Captain_Haddock> Most guides simply assume that it's connected to your current system and has not failed :(
[19:10] <tda> get your data back first
[19:11] <tda> trying to update firmware on a failed/failing drive sounds really stupid if you care about the data
[19:12] <Captain_Haddock> tda: I agree :) I've installed ddrescue. From what I can see, it copies one block device to another block device? So I'll need to create a new partition somewhere?
[19:12] <tda> output can be a file
[19:14] <tda> everything on linux is a file anyway
[19:14] <Captain_Haddock> tda: OK. I've install testdisk which has an analyse option that I'm running now.
[19:25] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: I'd recommend you assume the device is dead - there's obviously a Phison controller fault that causes this, I doubt a FW upgrade will repair that
[19:25] <Captain_Haddock> TJ-: I'd given up on it a few weeks ago. But when I connected it a couple of days ago, it worked for a while and then died again.
[19:26] <Captain_Haddock> But it's not looking good.
[19:26] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: Looks like a claim on Kingston for a replacement - that's the only way failures like this get communicated back to the manufacturer and might get fixed
[19:27] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: if all the SSD manufacturers start bothering Phison over the same problem, things changes
[19:27] <Captain_Haddock> This is what happens when I run ddrescue: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nMtz884Mpj/
[19:27] <Captain_Haddock> Dies and is then redetected.
[19:27] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: you've good evidence across the 'net that this issue is related to the controller and affects multiple brands
[19:28] <Captain_Haddock> TJ-: Yep. I just want to give data recovery a try before I do that.
[19:28] <TJ-> Captain_Haddock: the failure doesn't surprise me; I suspect the wear-levelling data/algorithm, stored in the flash itself, has been corrupted
[19:29] <cryptodan> Captain_Haddock: put the drive in an external enclosure and see if it will work there
[19:29] <Captain_Haddock> cryptodan: That's where it is now.
[19:30] <cryptodan> and it is still doing that error?
[19:30] <Captain_Haddock> yep although I didn't try the ddrescue when it was directly connected. But other behaviour was similar.
[19:31] <cryptodan> try using testdisk or photorec as a last resort
[19:31] <JRTGuy> What's the advised way to install the latest NVIDIA drivers? The 'additional drivers' tab in software centre says nothing. I tried installing from NVIDIA website but it said the distribution install script failed. I did find a ppa 'graphics-drivers' and added it but it gave a big wall of text about how it's in testing. Is there an easier way to do this?
[19:31] <cryptodan> JRTGuy: what video card
[19:32] <JRTGuy> RTX 2070. Needs latest driver
[19:32] <Captain_Haddock> cryptodan: Will do, thanks.
[19:32] <cryptodan> the graphics-driver ppa
[19:32] <Captain_Haddock> JRTGuy: I'm using the ppa with no issues. FWIW.
[19:33] <JRTGuy> That is the official way to do it on Ubuntu?
[19:33] <cryptodan> JRTGuy: yup i use it for my gtx 1070 and no issues
[19:39] <americanwookie> Hi! I'm not sure where to go, maybe y'all can point me in the right direction: I've got a few machines netbooting, and all of a sudden /lib/modules was replaced by a package called cloud-initramfs-copymods. Replaced, as in, a tmpfs-like mount was made ontop and all the modules from my initrd were placed in /lib/modules. Can anyone tell me more about copymods? I doesn't google well.
[19:40] <tomreyn> !info cloud-initramfs-copymods
[19:42] <tomreyn> americanwookie: not sure what this does, haven't seen it before. which ubuntu do you run there?
[19:42] <americanwookie> 16.04.5
[19:42] <OerHeks> https://helpmanual.io/packages/apt/cloud-initramfs-copymods/
[19:43]  * americanwookie reads
[19:43] <OerHeks> This package arranges for the modules in the initramfs to be placed into /lib/modules after the switchroot is done.
[19:44] <americanwookie> After switchroot, that is, once my normal, day-to-day, file system is in place?
[19:47] <tmp1233098> I have a user 'jv' and a bash script that works for that user. When I set up an upstart service to run that script as that user, one of the lines causes "`/` is not writable." ... any thoughts?
[19:47] <mustmodify> Sorry, that's me above.
[19:48] <mustmodify> I have a user 'jv' and a bash script that works for that user. When I set up an upstart service to run that script as that user, one of the lines causes "`/` is not writable." ... any thoughts?
[19:48] <americanwookie> OerHeks: (forgot to tag you in my earlier question) After switchroot, that is, once my normal, day-to-day, file system is in place?
[19:50] <OerHeks> americanwookie, i am reading about this cloud thingy, i haven't done netboot for a while too
[19:51] <americanwookie> OerHeks: Thank you!
[19:51] <cesdo> hello all
[19:52] <ioria> americanwookie, sy, what you mean with 'once my normal, day-to-day, file system is in place?'  ?
[19:55] <americanwookie> ioria: So I'm netbooting openstack compute nodes that have their / file system on a NetAppp. Day-to-day filesystem as in the / that's on the NetApp that has all the typical files that are used by the server to act as a compute node.
[19:55] <mlalkaka> mustmodify: From what directory is the script being run when run as a service? Is that different from when you run it logged in as 'jv'?
[19:56] <mustmodify> mlalkaka: Good question. the script changes to the proper directory, which is /projects/projname/reporting
[19:59] <mustmodify> mlalkaka: https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/78464c96566fb1a62c0d97387f3cee86
[19:59] <chull> I put the problem in pastebin so it's easy to read and understand https://pastebin.com/7r9TCbHE
[20:01] <OerHeks> chull, install nautilus-admin, and you can open files as administrator/root
[20:01] <uio> Hi! Is it possible to see the speed of available wifi connections without connecting to them?
[20:02] <mlalkaka> mustmodify: Thanks for pasting the script. So I'm guessing you already verified that `whoami` returned 'jv'? If that's the case, do you know what line/command in the script is trying to execute when it fails? Perhaps you could put a few `echo` statements through it to figure that out next
[20:02] <OerHeks> so, that gtk warnings is no bug AFAIK
[20:02] <chull> OerHeks, we need to remove files to make room to install anything. got another idea?
[20:02] <ioria> chull, what version of ubuntu ?
[20:03] <mustmodify> mlalkaka: it does say 'jv'
[20:03] <OerHeks> sudo rm /path/to/file or sudo -R /path/to/folder/
[20:03] <chull> ioria, it's 16.04
[20:03] <OerHeks> don't open GUI apps like that as root, and it is not needed with the nautilus-admin plugin
[20:03] <ioria> chull, and what version of nautilus ?
[20:04] <chull> ioria, it's in the file umm hang on
[20:04] <mustmodify> mlalkaka: the issue is caused by the last line, the puma statement. When I run it interactively, it starts a web server. When I run it via upstart, no good.
[20:04] <ioria> chull, dpkg -l nautilus
[20:04] <chull> dpkg -l nautilus
[20:04] <chull>  nautilus       1:3.18.5-0ub
[20:04] <ioria> chull, i don't think a 1:3.18.5-0ub exists
[20:04] <mustmodify> mlalkaka: weird thing is that on my local machine, I'm using that same script and same upstart file and it works.
[20:05] <mustmodify> same paths, etc.
[20:05] <chull> let me go back and see then ioria
[20:05] <ioria> chull, apt-cache policy nautilus
[20:07] <chull> ioria  Installed: 1:3.18.5-0ubuntu1~xenial1
[20:07] <ioria> chull, apt-cache policy nautilus | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:08] <lesshaste> has anyone got netflix to work in ubuntu? I get Chrome Browser - Windows
[20:08] <lesshaste> Netflix Error M7353-5101 even though I turned off all extensions
[20:09] <chull> ioria https://termbin.com/bfpk
[20:10] <ioria> chull, why are you using a ppa ... for gnome3 ?
[20:10] <ioria> chull, and, btw, on xenial you can use   gksu pkg for starting nautilus as root
[20:11] <chull> ioria, my husband is, he can't talk or type to explain it. it's there, if it shouldn't be, we can fix it probably - the first issue is there isn't room to do anything
[20:11] <ioria> chull, df -h  | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:11] <cesdo> I  have 1920*1080 monitor, but the current resolution is 1280*1024
[20:11] <cesdo> please help
[20:12] <cesdo> xrandr:
[20:12] <cesdo> https://pastebin.com/4P1d76xD
[20:12] <chull> ioria, https://termbin.com/2zmh
[20:12] <cesdo> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:
[20:12] <chull> cesdo, sympathy.
[20:13] <cesdo> https://pastebin.com/t08piF39
[20:13] <ioria> chull, ls /boot   | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:14] <chull> ioria, https://termbin.com/x4j8
[20:16] <ioria> chull, well... you need to remove some stuff
[20:16] <chull> ioria, yes. we would like to remove some things from /tmp/ if possible
[20:17] <ioria> chull, from /tmp ? why ?
[20:17] <americanwookie> ioria, OerHeks: The problem I'm having with copymods is that everytime I reboot the server, I lose modules I need in /lib/modules like veth and iptables*. I've been slowly adding modules to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules, but I'm getting to the point where every module I need is ending up in my initrd. This feels wrong.
[20:17] <ioria> chull, the problem is root '/',or your home ;     du -sh /home/$USER
[20:18] <mustmodify> mlalkaka: figured it out.
[20:18] <cryptodan> chull tmp should be cleaned when you reboot your machine or close apps
[20:18] <chull> ioria ok fine. it looks like we have
[20:19] <mustmodify> $HOME wasn't defined, and puma needed it.
[20:19] <chull> have thingis
[20:19] <ioria> chull, your root is full
[20:19] <chull> ioria ok yes
[20:19] <ioria> chull, run       du -sh /home/$USER
[20:20] <chull> ioria, ok ty
[20:21] <chull> ioria,  du -sh /home/$USER
[20:21] <chull> 824G	/home/chull
[20:21] <ioria> chull,  824G on 886G ?
[20:22] <chull> ioria, whatever it said, i pasted
[20:22] <pjs> hey all.. question, for say, nginx, is it possible to specify the config file for the systemd startup script (assuming, ie, service nginx start)? Because it appears to be using a config that's not /etc/nginx/nginx.conf and I can't seem to figure out how it's getting it's config (not sites-enabled). Sorry for the odd question, inherited an issue this morning and trying to help troubleshoot
[20:22] <ioria> chull, remove something in your home then
[20:23] <cryptodan> where is /home mounted chull?
[20:23] <chull> hi cryptodan, tell me command?
[20:23] <lesshaste> the answer is you  need chrome and not chromium
[20:23] <cryptodan> df -h
[20:24] <ioria> cryptodan,  https://termbin.com/2zmh
[20:24] <ikonia> pjs: what are you you talking about
[20:24] <ikonia> pjs: if you install nginx from a package - that will provide a systemd unit file that will pass the arguments for the config fie
[20:24] <ikonia> you just use the path the package sets
[20:25] <ikonia> if you don't, you'll end up changing the unit files and then having problems with package updates/support
[20:25] <cryptodan> ioria: his home resides in / so it is reporting the full size of /
[20:25] <ioria> cryptodan,  i asked for du -sh /home/$USER
[20:25] <cryptodan> places to look for huge / is /var/log and the like
[20:25] <pjs> ikonia: I know that, what I'm saying is, it's NOT using the default path. I'm asking is where would that change be made? To change the path to the config file
[20:25] <ikonia> pjs: where did you get the package
[20:26] <chull> cryptodan, https://termbin.com/h1d9
[20:26] <ioria> cryptodan,  du it's not about partitions, but directory size
[20:26] <pjs> ikonia: I assume apt.. this is not my system. Just helping in an urgent issue for a client
[20:27] <ikonia> pjs: then don't change the location, put the file where the init script is expecting it
[20:27] <pjs> ikonia: I am not changing anything. It's already changed. I'm trying to find WHERE it's been changed so I can see what is configured
[20:27] <pjs> my question is, where is the place that would be changed?
[20:27] <ikonia> pjs: you'll see it in the nginx log file
[20:27] <cryptodan> chull: did you get this output from du -sh /home/4USER
[20:28] <ikonia> pjs: if it's failing to start up, the error will say "cannot fine $somewhere file"
[20:28] <cryptodan> chull: did you get this output from du -sh /home/$USER 558G	/home/cryptodan
[20:28] <ioria> cryptodan,  nope, he gets this : 824G /home/chull
[20:28] <pjs> ikonia: no, it's running. but with settings that are not in the configs that I have. So I can't figure out what config it's using
[20:29] <ikonia> pjs: ps -ef | grep nginx shows the binary running with it's arguments
[20:29] <pjs> ikonia: yea, just says /usr/sbin/nginx (checked that already).. super weird
[20:29] <ikonia> pjs: then it's reading the config file
[20:30] <chull> cryptodan, ikonia, chull@vir:~$ df -h | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:30] <chull> https://termbin.com/h1d9
[20:30] <chull> that's what i did
[20:31] <OerHeks> sudo nginx -t should test all files and return errors and warnings locations.
[20:31] <pjs> ikonia: thanks anyway
[20:31] <ikonia> pjs: why do you thin it's not reading the config file you think it is ?
[20:32] <pjs> ikonia: because it's serving an SSL certificate, and listening on port 443, and it's not configured to in the default config file, no addtl configs are included, nothing is in sites-enabled or sites-available.
[20:32] <lesshaste> how can I check that all the files in /foo/dir1 are also in /foo/dir2 ?
[20:33] <ikonia> pjs: so if you do a nginx -t what output do you get ?
[20:34] <ioria> lesshaste, one methos is md5sum
[20:34] <ioria> *method
[20:34] <lesshaste> ioria, good point
[20:37] <pjs> ikonia: syntax is good, and file is correct (default)
[20:37] <ikonia> pjs: therefore is you stop and start using the init script - that's what it will parse
[20:38] <ikonia> pjs: you have to be miss-reading something in the config
[20:38] <OerHeks> pjs, now you can tell what conf it reads
[20:38] <tomreyn> lesshaste: ls -1 /foo/dir1 > /tmp/dir1; ls -1 /foo/dir2 > /tmp/dir2; diff /tmp/dir1 /tmp/dir2
[20:39] <chull> wb tomreyn love diff :)
[20:39] <pjs> ikonia, oerheks, thanks
[20:39] <ikonia> pjs: do you want to share the configs for second eyes ?
[20:40] <tomreyn> chull: yes it's pretty useful.
[20:40] <qwebirc95665> hello, how can i bulk rename folders in ubuntu
[20:40] <chull> cryptodan, did we lose you?
[20:41] <OerHeks> qwebirc95665, use mv +R
[20:41] <qwebirc95665> does mv not just support 1 folder?
[20:42] <OerHeks> qwebirc95665, depends on the naming, mv -R ~/Photo*
[20:42] <chull> ikonia, we lost cryptodan. so we still need to remove something to make roo on the drive
[20:43] <ikonia> chull: ? who is cryptodan ?
[20:43] <OerHeks> or use nautilus, hold CTRL key and click the folders, seperatly
[20:43] <qwebirc95665> i have 7600 folder, many of those have chinses symbol in it, i just want the folder to be some random 1-0 a-z naming
[20:44] <ikonia> qwebirc95665: you'll need to write a script then
[20:44] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: use 'rename' / 'rename.ul' from util-linux
[20:44] <chull> ikonia, i think cryptodan was asking us to show him :~$ df -h |
[20:44] <ikonia> chull: I've never spoken to cryptodan
[20:44] <chull> ok
[20:45] <chull> there is a cryptodan_mobile still here
[20:45] <ikonia> chull: right ? why are you telling me ?
[20:45] <pjs> ikonia: sure, https://pastebin.com/ACzmVEtS (sanitized domain name but other than that, that's nginx.conf)
[20:45] <qwebirc95665> rename.ul seems to rename files
[20:45] <qwebirc95665> tomreyn    Usage:  rename.ul [options] <expression> <replacement> <file>... Rename files.
[20:45] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: it can also work on directories, doesn'T matter
[20:45] <qwebirc95665> ok
[20:46] <chull> ikonia, so back with you, we still need to remove something
[20:46] <lesshaste> tomreyn, I need to check the contents too
[20:47] <ikonia> chull: what  ? back with me ? what are you talking about
[20:47] <tomreyn> lesshaste: then checksumming is required
[20:48] <tomreyn> lesshaste: or some form of diff, if oyu want to know what the differences are.
[20:48] <OerHeks> chull, you posted a strange way to open nautiluius as root: i told you not to do that, use the nautilus-admin plugin
[20:48] <OerHeks> https://pastebin.com/7r9TCbHE
[20:48] <chull> ikonia, (im tired too) but we really need the computer to work and the drive is full .
[20:48] <OerHeks> don't open GUI apps like that as root, and it is not needed with the nautilus-admin plugin
[20:48] <ikonia> chull: what are you talking about - I have no idea what you're talking about or why you are telling me
[20:49] <qwebirc95665> tomreyn would s/*/%random%/ work?
[20:49] <ikonia> pjs: is it possible it's the re-write ?
[20:49] <tomreyn> OerHeks: i had suggested "sudo nautilus" to chull earlier, not knowing of this plugin
[20:49] <qwebirc95665> manpage give not much to read
[20:49] <chull> OerHeks, we don't have room to download anything at this point, we need to do it manually
[20:50] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: i dont know, you can try --no-act and --verbose
[20:50] <OerHeks> chull, anyway, nautilus should open as root and you can do what you think is right
[20:50] <OerHeks> but it is bad
[20:51] <chull> tomreyn, thanks yes. and it errors, https://pastebin.com/7r9TCbHE (just so you can see what it was doing)
[20:51] <pjs> ikonia: I don't think so, but could be. Anyway I need to jet. I tried to help a friend but I have a meeting to get to now :) Thanks for your help! I do appreciate it
[20:51] <ikonia> pjs: not a problem
[20:51] <qwebirc95665> tomreyn Quantifier follows nothing in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/* <-- HERE / at (user-supplied code).
[20:52] <tomreyn> chull: so you have this output, ok, but does the nautilus window actually show up?
[20:52] <chull> tomreyn, it seems to, not sure it one can do anything in it
[20:53] <chull> tomreyn, we've established (thanks to ikonia ) that the problem is in /chull and that /tmp/ gets emptied when the system is restarted
[20:54] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: sorry, can't follow. if util-linux's replace doesn't provide what you're looing for there are several other options (apt search --names-only rename), or oyu could script it.
[20:55] <tomreyn> chull: right, i told you that most of the space is in use in /home/chull earlier today. and /tmp/ is always cleared on reboot
[20:55] <tomreyn> (by default)
[20:56] <chull> tomreyn, so if i can get my husband to say something big that can be removed, then we need to use this to do it <OerHeks> sudo rm /path/to/file or sudo -R /path/to/folder/
[20:56] <OerHeks> you do not need root to clean out your /home/
[20:56] <qwebirc95665> tomreyn i dont know if rename provide what i need, is there a webpage that shows sampe commands? i dont know what a Quantifier or a regex is
[20:58] <tomreyn> chull: correct, although you can and should omit "sudo" in front if you're logged in as chull and deling file sin his home directory
[20:59] <tomreyn> *delETing
[20:59] <tomreyn> oh, OerHeks just said so
[21:01] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: "regex" is short for "regular expression". it's a somewhat complex way to desxribe all kinds of patterns. if you just need to rename a part of a directory name by something else, then you dont need to read up on it
[21:02] <chull> tomreyn, he got it. Men! He forgot how, but now he remembered how he does it.
[21:02] <chull> he's laughing.
[21:02] <kinghat> getting this on a ubuntu server VM as well: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/b4PbTLDI/image.png
[21:03] <qwebirc95665> tomreyn i just found this, does this look like it can do what i want? /(.*)/([A-Z][A-Z][A-Z][A-Z][A-Z][A-Z][A-Z][A-Z][A-Z][A-Z][A-Z][A-Z][A-Z][A-Z])
[21:03] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: i dont know what exactly you want to do, so can't answer this
[21:04] <tomreyn> chull: so you got some free space now?
[21:05] <qwebirc95665> tomreyn i want to rename every folder in a given path from ║╙▒í¬╖▓╖▓ to something like abcdef
[21:05] <chull> tomreyn, does 'trash' empty when you reboot or is there another way?
[21:06] <technobi> Hello All, how do I change console font (tty1-6) to something that displays both utf-8 characters and ANSI Graphics?
[21:07] <technobi> E.G. qodem fails to display characters well...
[21:07] <chull> tomreyn, nm he showed me, but now we are trying to figure out if he has room
[21:09] <tomreyn> chull: trash empties when you instruct your graphical file manager to do so+
[21:09] <tomreyn> chull: df -h / to show unallocated (free, available) space.
[21:10] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: i guess you should script it.
[21:11] <chull> tomreyn, /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root  886G  329G  512G  40% /
[21:11] <chull> that's much better. he removed backups. we are pretty sure there is more surplus stuff but at least he can move around now.
[21:12] <tomreyn> chull: okay, much better indeed. now you can start to work on what you really wanted to do.
[21:13] <tomreyn> chull: that is, as soon as the apt sources are cleaned up ;)
[21:16] <chull> tomreyn, yes. maybe when i wake up. i'm tired. (nocturnal)
[21:16] <tomreyn> chull: cool, i'm tired, too, ttyl!
[21:16] <chull> okies have a good rest tomreyn :)
[21:16] <tomreyn> you, too
[21:16] <chull> thanks a lot tomreyn and everyone :)
[21:17] <OerHeks> have fun!
[21:32] <w3pm> is there a way to hotkey forgrounding a specific running application? ie instead of using Alt+Tab and searching for the app to foreground, I could just use a hotkey to swap to it
[21:32] <matsaman> w3pm: yeah
[21:33] <w3pm> woohoo! :D what do I search for to find that feature?
[21:35] <matsaman> w3pm: try wmctrl
[21:35] <matsaman> w3pm: like, 'wmctrl -a firefox' should match a window containing 'Firefox' in its name
[21:35] <matsaman> there are some other alternatives, but that's probably simplest
[21:35] <w3pm> ok nice, thank you
[21:36] <matsaman> wmctrl -l gives you the strings it would match against
[21:36] <matsaman> IIRC you can match more exactly by window id, too, I just forget the particular method
[21:44] <w3pm> matsaman: works great, thanks for the help!
[21:44] <matsaman> np
[21:45] <dar123> I am trying to find an ip addrss of api server, i have to use ip instead of domain name
[21:48] <General_Starvel> hello, I have a question having to do with apropriate drivers for a broadcomm wireless
[21:48] <OerHeks> dar123, domain ip could be different from the API server itself, but the whois domaintools online can be a help
[21:49] <General_Starvel> hello, I have a question having to do with apropriate drivers for a broadcomm wireless network card.
[21:49] <matsaman> General_Starvel: prove it
[21:50] <General_Starvel> it's a microsoft mn-720, given to me bt the Cochise Linux User Group
[21:50] <General_Starvel> s/bt/by
[21:50] <matsaman> cochise, cool
[21:50] <General_Starvel> Yep.
[21:50] <matsaman> what is that a minipci card?
[21:51] <General_Starvel> no, it's a wireless card, made for a dell inspiron
[21:51] <General_Starvel> i happen to have an Inspiron 2600 laptop
[21:52] <matsaman> General_Starvel: where's it show up, lsusb? lspci?
[21:52] <General_Starvel> just a sec
[21:52] <OerHeks> General_Starvel, lspci -nnk should tell more,
[21:52] <General_Starvel> thats what i used
[21:53] <General_Starvel> i used lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 network
[21:53] <matsaman> and what's it say?
[21:53] <General_Starvel> the card is a BMC4306
[21:53] <General_Starvel> 14e4:4325
[21:54] <General_Starvel> i am having to use ethernet to connect :|
[21:54] <OerHeks> General_Starvel, and what says: Kernel driver in use: XXXX Kernel modules: yyyy
[21:54] <matsaman> wireless.kernel.org says 'ssb' is your driver
[21:55] <zaggynl> hiho, is there any way to programmatically edit those netplan yaml files with existing tooling in a script?
[21:55] <General_Starvel> kernel modules: ssb, wl
[21:55] <matsaman> might have been renamed 'b43'
[21:55] <General_Starvel> i tried using the b43legacy driver and the ndiswrapper driver, neither worked
[21:55] <Bashing-om> !bcm | General_Starvel : What release is installed ? Think maybe 18.10 has BCM support built in.
[21:56] <matsaman> oh there it is
[21:56] <matsaman> https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Microsoft_MN-720
[21:56] <General_Starvel> I am actually using lubuntu- ubuntu would cause this poor old laptop to catch on fire :|
[21:59] <matsaman> I'd be a little curious if it works out of the box via a sysresccd image
[21:59] <General_Starvel> i cant connect to net atm, my browser sucks
[22:00] <General_Starvel> cant even use firefox :||
[22:00] <uio> Hi! How can I see the potential WiFi connection strength of available networks?
[22:02] <OerHeks> uio, on what ubuntu version?
[22:02] <uio> OerHeks: Lubuntu 16.04
[22:03] <OerHeks> ,most desktops can show the list with the network strength
[22:03] <OerHeks> lubuntu too, no?
[22:03] <uio> OerHeks: But it's visual with bars, I'd like numbers...
[22:03] <uio> OerHeks: iwconfig will only give for the used connection...
[22:04] <uio> OerHeks: I'd like to know the bit rate and the link quality.
[22:04] <OerHeks> those numbers say nothing untill you are connected
[22:05] <uio> OerHeks: What do you mean?
[22:05] <uio> OerHeks: What do the bars for the wifi symbols beside each available WiFi network base themselves off of?
[22:06] <OerHeks> if you would scan every 5 nanosecond, those numbers will jump up and down
[22:07] <OerHeks> so if you have 2 bars, that would say nothing too as the transmission could well go up/and or multi channel
[22:07] <uio> OerHeks: Right true, I'm just looking for a general idea. To explain the situation, two of my neighbours offered to share their WiFi and I'd like to know which signal will give me a better connection without connecting...
[22:08] <uio> OerHeks: Yes and no, generally when I see one bar, the network connection is terrible and if it is full it is good.
[22:08] <OerHeks> my best answer: without connecting, you will never know.
[22:09] <uio> OerHeks: But where does the bar indicator get it's info from?
[22:09] <uio> OerHeks: It must pull some number...
[22:09] <OerHeks> it is just an indication of the broadcast
[22:09] <OerHeks> "i am here"
[22:09] <uio> OerHeks: Does the broadcast have a number?
[22:09] <uio> OerHeks: But why the bar differences?
[22:10] <uio> OerHeks: Does it not reflect signal strength?
[22:11] <OerHeks> yes, partially, on the 2.4 mhrz band, but just the standard broadcast
[22:11] <tda> technically the signal strength is measured in dB. you can see it in the more advanced wifi tools
[22:11] <OerHeks> it could say something about distance, if the routers are the same brand/model
[22:11] <uio> tda: Could you recommend such a wifi tool?
[22:12] <OerHeks> but if you want to choose between them, you will need to connect to test the fulll service
[22:12] <uio> OerHeks: Okay, I see.
[22:12] <uio> OerHeks: Right.
[22:13] <tda> one's a cli tool for the wifi, i can't remember the name
[22:13] <OerHeks> wireshark could tell, but your adapter needs a compliant driver to use it
[22:14] <uio> tda: Maybe iftop?
[22:15] <tda> i think that just shows interface bandwidth
[22:15] <tda> i don't have wifi right on this computer
[22:16] <OerHeks> wavemon, and F3 for scan https://www.ostechnix.com/monitor-wifi-connection-command-line-linux/
[22:22] <uio> OerHeks: Perfect! Thanks
[22:23] <OerHeks> have fun!
[23:22] <j0seph> Hi all, how might I go about easily listing all the packages I have installed from a certain repo? For instance, I want to list all the packages I have installed from the cosmic multiverse and cosmic restricted. Thanks!
[23:26] <OerHeks> j0seph, easy would be installing nautilus, you can filter on repository/installed
[23:27] <OerHeks> and much more detailed softwarecenter
[23:28] <asdfgh> hello
[23:28] <asdfgh> a good password manager?
[23:29] <OerHeks> standard seahorse will do fine on ubuntu
[23:29] <bindi> keepassxc
[23:30] <OerHeks> or go wild on 22 reviews https://www.ubuntupit.com/linux-password-manager-22-reviewed-and-compared-for-linux-nerds/
[23:30] <asdfgh> i do not want to store password online
[23:30] <asdfgh> maybe only on my google drive account
[23:31] <NerdTheThird> lmao
[23:31] <itguys> asdfgh: KeepassXC lets you choose where to store the database
[23:33] <asdfgh> itguys, yes i am seeing that software
[23:34] <NerdTheThird> i hope it's going good for you two :)))
[23:34] <asdfgh> NerdTheThird, ironic? :)
[23:36] <devslash> was ther e any major changes in networking in ubuntu 18.10 ?
[23:37] <asdfgh> bindi, itguys seems a good software for my needs, i hope it is safe too :D
[23:37] <itguys> asdfgh: It's great. I use it.
[23:38] <devslash> im having a neetwork issue with ubuntu but its only happening on this 1 computer on my lan where if i type 192.168.18 (my nextcloud server address) in the browser it times out. I added an entry to the hosts file which usually makes it work but its still timing out for some reason
[23:38] <asdfgh> itguys, thank you
[23:38] <OerHeks> devslash, not really https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes
[23:39] <j0seph> I also wanted to disable the default ubuntu dock, but turning it off via gnome tweaks did nothing and uninstalling it via apt also removes ubuntu-desktop which I certainly don't want. So I had to purposefully break it by changing the metadata package. :(
[23:39] <matsaman> why not just switch to another DE
[23:39] <asdfgh> goodbye
[23:39] <j0seph> I like Gnome
[23:40] <devslash> i dunno what to do
[23:40] <itguys> devslash: what happens when you ping it
[23:40] <devslash> i get a response
[23:40] <itguys> devslash: And nextcloud works when another device tries to do it/
[23:40] <itguys> ?
[23:40] <devslash> yea
[23:41] <sirensari_> devslash: the ip you typed is not an ip
[23:41] <devslash> every other device on my lan works perfectly except for ubuntu 18.19
[23:41] <devslash> yes it is
[23:41] <sirensari_> that's 24 bits, an ip is 32
[23:41] <devslash> 192.168.1.18
[23:41] <devslash> thats a valid ip
[23:41] <sirensari_> that's not what you typed
[23:41] <itguys> devslash: you made a typo. it's fine.
[23:41] <devslash> we
[23:42] <sirensari_> just making sure
[23:42] <itguys> devslash: have you tried a different browser? Is this a new Ubuntu installation?
[23:42] <devslash> yes brand new
[23:42] <devslash> i fi cant fix this im gonna have to revert back to Windows
[23:42] <OerHeks> sudo ufw allow 80,443/tcp
[23:43] <devslash> i still times out
[23:43] <itguys> devslash: I know the problem
[23:43] <itguys> devslash: Do you have Nextcloud set up to only accept a certain IP/domain?
[23:43] <devslash> no
[23:44] <itguys> devslash: I setup a Nextcloud VPS and I had to edit the config to allow my domain instead of just the IP address
[23:44] <itguys> devslash: Check that.
[23:44] <devslash> i know hwat youre talking about
[23:44] <devslash> i know what youre talking about
[23:44] <sirensari_> devslash: what's `ip route | grep default` return
[23:44] <devslash> its in config.php
[23:45] <devslash> and the problem is not just nextcloud
[23:45] <binaryhermit> hypothetically speaking, is apt-get likely to go away completely or will it at worst be mapped to other tools for legacy compatibility purposes
[23:45] <devslash> if i type 192.168.1.18 in a browser i should see my web servers landing page 192.168.1.18/nextcloud is my NC instance
[23:45] <devslash> when i type my web server address in a browser it doesnt come up
[23:46] <devslash> the issue is with ubuntu not with nextcloud
[23:46] <itguys> devslash: Are they on the same network?
[23:46] <devslash> yea
[23:47] <itguys> devslash: And you're not using a VPN?
[23:47] <devslash> no
[23:47] <itguys> devslash: Just making sure
[23:48] <devslash> damn
[23:48] <itguys> devslash: did you run what sirensari_ stated?
[23:48] <devslash> yea
[23:48] <devslash> it printed the default route
[23:48] <devslash> which lists my routers ip
[23:49] <itguys> devslash: Does trying to access your router work?
[23:49] <devslash> yes
[23:51] <sirensari_> devslash: what's `hostname -I` return
[23:51] <devslash> my local ip address
[23:52] <itguys> devslash: I'm sorry I couldn't help more. I am going to be afk for a bit. Good luck!
[23:52] <devslash> ok thanks for trying
[23:54] <sirensari_> devslash: how about `sudo sysctl net.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter`
[23:55] <devslash> just a sec brb