[00:00] <murthy> https://imagebin.ca/v/4Rbyfqqcg6Br
[00:00] <murthy> valorie: ^
[00:00] <valorie> ah, possibly so that dolphin can sync those files
[00:01] <valorie> there is a kio-gdrive that does that
[00:01] <valorie> works pretty well in my testing
[00:01] <murthy> valorie: But I only want to use google hangouts, is there a way to use/give permission to that only
[00:01] <valorie> dunno
[00:01] <valorie> perhaps someone in #kde knows
[00:02] <murthy> I think telepathy is a successor to kopete right?
[00:02] <valorie> nope
[00:02] <valorie> entirely separate
[00:02] <valorie> I've not tried to use it and wasn't entirely successful setting up the online accounts thing
[00:03] <murthy> Its just that my friend is very adamant in using google hangout instead of whatsapp or telegram or signal even better. I find it very hard to sign into google to everytime share a news article with him
[00:04] <valorie> yeah
[00:04] <valorie> I just use the thing next to gmail
[00:04] <valorie> and am usually signed in already
[00:05] <valorie> so I'm not much help
[00:05] <valorie> I refuse to do whatsapp
[00:05] <valorie> signal is indeed the best
[00:05] <valorie> telegram - decent
[00:05] <valorie> really, IRC is the best!
[00:05] <valorie> lol
[00:06] <murthy> I have a habit of cleaning my browser history and cookies before every time I  close the browser
[00:06] <murthy> valorie: true
[00:07] <valorie> oh I would hate that
[00:08] <valorie> I only do that if I mistrust the site and wish I'd never clicked in
[00:08] <murthy> ya, me too, but I am using google chrome and I need to avoid tracking
[00:09] <valorie> ah, I use Falkon
[00:09] <valorie> and DDG
[00:09] <murthy> valorie: Does falkon support widewine?
[00:09] <murthy> valorie: I need it to play netflix
[00:09] <valorie> not sure what that is?
[00:09] <valorie> ah
[00:09] <murthy> valorie: some plugin to play drm stuff
[00:09] <valorie> well, test it out!
[00:09] <valorie> oh, plugin
[00:09] <valorie> unsure
[00:10] <valorie> I still have chrome installed for some genealogy site because there are plugins that are *only* for chrome
[00:10] <valorie> I don't like how much of the web is being "chrome-ized"
[00:13] <murthy> valorie: , ya, tried netflix with falkon, first it crashed on sign in and after retrying, The video is not playing, it says it needs widevinecdm plugin
[00:13] <murthy> valorie: are each window of falkon sanboxed?
[00:13] <valorie> and is the plugin available?
[00:13] <valorie> hmmm, that I don't know
[00:14] <murthy> valorie: in the store or something?
[00:14] <valorie> there is #kde-falkon and #falkon but I don't know how many people are around
[00:15] <murthy> valorie: both are official channel?
[00:15] <valorie> well, I asked alis which is the search engine for freenode
[00:15] <murthy> ya holiday time
[00:16] <murthy> ok
[00:16] <valorie> I did: /msg alis list *falkon*
[00:16] <valorie> looks like #falkon is the bigger chan; unsure why both are there
[00:17] <murthy> ya #kde-falkon is empty
[00:18] <valorie> ewww
[00:18] <valorie> I haven't used opera for a long time
[00:18] <valorie> it's not really free software
[00:19] <valorie> I see no advantage to it
[00:20] <murthy> I rarely use opera for its build-in free vpn to circumvent censorship
[00:20] <murthy> Its closed source afaik
[00:21] <murthy> I haven't installed it thought, I just run the binary from the decompress folder
 @Velizar Peshev, co-exists ok on my systems
[00:21] <murthy> IrcsomeBot: do you know how to get the widevinecdm plugin for falkon?
[00:22] <murthy> oh
[00:23] <murthy> IrcsomeBot: does falkon support vp9 hardware acceleration?
[00:23] <murthy> IrcsomeBot: Is there a falkon ppa?
[00:24] <murthy> let me check if there is a flatpak or snap or appimage
[00:38] <murthy> IrcsomeBot: I installed the nightly build of falkon flatpak package and youtube works but netflix not working with the widevinecdm plugin, seems that is needed to play drm content
[00:40] <valorie> murthy: if you want to respond to the person in Telegram, you use: @Velizar Peshev
[00:41] <valorie> which is their Telegram nick
[00:46] <murthy> ok
[00:46] <valorie> sort of a pain, but it does work
[00:53] <murthy> ya
 Just got quick question if anyone on here is there way setting default folder view to be Details View Mode? instead of me manual setting all the folders?
 Not exactly, but you can set "Use common properties for all folders" in dolphin settings.
 (Photo, 385x523) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/HjEpfvPS/file_11591.jpg I think I have found the setting that should work
 @acheronuk, thanks for the advice
[02:14] <kalikatz> is there a nice borderless terminal option for 18.04?  konsole gets close, but i wan to see less fluff on the edges, lol  just want to watch my syslog in the background
[02:46] <valorie> hmm, there are some widgets like that, or used to be
[02:47] <valorie> you might look in store.kde.org and see if there is anything you like
[08:43] <denza242> pretty sure i asked something similar to this before but
[08:43] <denza242> I'm considering maybe migrating my laptop to a new, larger SSD, and it's a dual boot affair
[08:44] <denza242> so I was wondering if it'd be possible to copy the ntfs partition, grow it a bit, then copy the ext4 partition and grow that too
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:34] <tmroland> any idea how to fix the horrible graphics performance in chrome on linux? on windows everything is instant , smooth and fast. scrolling,tab switching,opening,moving,video playing etc. on linux its choppy. im using nvidia 415 and kde.
[13:34] <tmroland> r5 2600x, gtx 1080, 16gb ram, ssd 960evo
[13:35] <tmroland> kde itself is very fast, chrome is the problem
[13:42] <BluesKaj> tmroland, have an example url, I use chrome
[16:14] <eeos> Guys what the heck is the "Software" application in kubuntu?!
[16:23] <BluesKaj> it's called Discover in kmenu>application>system
[16:23] <BluesKaj> eeos,^
[16:25] <eeos> BluesKaj: thank you! Extremely annoying .... there are too many software management GUI.
[16:26] <eeos> BluesKaj: I just had two bios update proposed, and now I cannot track them into history, even if they are official and downloaded and installed.
[16:27] <BluesKaj> eeos, bios updates?
[16:27] <eeos> BluesKaj: yes. They were apparetnly provided by Lenovo. My machine is one of the suppoerted machines.
[16:28] <BluesKaj> the dpkg system doesn't update your BIOS
[16:30] <BluesKaj> dpkg is the base packaging system in ubuntu and flavours, the guis and cmd line apps like discover and apt are based on dpkg
[16:31] <eeos> BluesKaj: yes of course.Tthe point is that Lenovo packages also BIOS updates.
[16:31] <eeos> BluesKaj: when you reboot tey work their magic etc. etc.
[16:32] <BluesKaj> yeah, I used have a lenoveo laptop
[16:32] <BluesKaj> lenovo even
[16:50] <eeos> BluesKaj: what is the default software management centre in kubuntu?
[16:50] <eeos> BluesKaj: is it not muon anymore?
[16:51] <BluesKaj> no,but some refer to discover as muon discover, however I use the original muon as a reference
[16:52] <BluesKaj> just install muon, Eickmeyer
[16:52] <BluesKaj> oops he left
[17:14] <eeos> BluesKaj: do you know how to add a ppa to discover using GUI? I am trying to tecah someone ....
[17:37] <BluesKaj> eeos, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nameofppa-ppa/name
[17:38] <BluesKaj> eeos, sually that command is listed with the proper ppa and name included on said launchpad ppa site
[17:38] <BluesKaj> usually
[17:39] <eeos> BluesKaj: yes, I know. I was wondeirng whetehr you know of a GUI tool, I am helping someone to learn how to use the system
[17:39] <eeos> BluesKaj: but they do not like command line
[17:39] <BluesKaj> use the konsole with those commands
[17:40] <BluesKaj> it's time to learn how to use the command line if you want to use ppas , the commands aren't difficult to copy and paste into the console
[17:41] <eeos> BluesKaj: I know. This is what I do, but not what I need. I need a GUI tool, not for me but for another person who is not skilled and needs to use a kubuntu system.
[17:41] <eeos> BluesKaj: I am not familiar with GUI tools because I tend to use CLI.
[17:41] <BluesKaj> it's easier to use the cmdline than adding a deb source to the sources list
[17:42] <eeos> BluesKaj: I do not need to add a deb source, but a ppa.
[17:42] <eeos> BluesKaj: deb source is very easy, and I alreayd taught her how to do that using software sources.
[17:42] <BluesKaj> a ppa becomes a deb source once
[17:42] <BluesKaj> it's added
[17:43] <eeos> BluesKaj: of course, but we are talking about an unskilled user. I need a GUI tool to give her so that she does not need to know all of that,
[17:44] <BluesKaj> eeos, my advice is not to pussyfoot , show the user how easy it is to use the cli
[17:44] <BluesKaj> the konsole isn't a scary dark place
[17:45] <eeos> BluesKaj: she is really not happy about it, and would like to use a GUI.
[17:47] <BluesKaj> never gonna be much of a linux user if she can't handle a few copy and pastes into the cli
[17:51] <BluesKaj> https://www.maketecheasier.com/what-is-ppa-in-ubuntu/
[17:51] <BluesKaj> eeos,^
[17:55] <eeos> BluesKaj: thank you .... unfortunately, the users with whom I deal (and I agree with them) like the systems to be user centred rather than system centred.
[17:56] <BluesKaj> user centered and system centered need not be separate issues, work flow goes much easier when they're integrated
[18:00] <BluesKaj> ppas are by nature usually bleeding edge and ppa repositories assume some knowledge of the command line by the user
[18:02] <BluesKaj> eeos,^
[18:03] <eeos> BluesKaj: mmmm .... actually most stable pieces of software are nowadays available as ppa / appimage / flatpak / snap .... particularly the graphical / multimedia that the user in question uses
[18:04] <eeos> BluesKaj: I do not think it is right to not offer the user a GUI option .... we keep messing things up and complexifying things that do not need to be so complex ....
[18:04] <eeos> BluesKaj: of course the users stick with Mac and Windows
[18:06] <eeos> BluesKaj: we = the OS community .... there is too much division and "I know better" mentality .... we need more collaborative spirit I think, and more availability to compromise!
[18:06] <BluesKaj> well, you want a non default repository added to the sources list then you need to use the cli to add it since it's usually under development
[18:06] <eeos> BluesKaj: not really, no .... see for example Krita where the stabel version is only available through ppa, flatpak, appimage.
[18:06] <eeos> BluesKaj: the version available on LTS is so old that it is useless.
[18:07] <BluesKaj> there are exceptions but are you going to ask non cli users to use snaps and flatpcks  :-)
[18:08] <eeos> BluesKaj: my point!!!! We should either not pack stable releases as appimage / flatpack / snap or make available to the users simple ways of doing so ....
[18:09] <eeos> BluesKaj: and for goodness sake, let's stop with so many different approaches .... flatpak, snap and appimage look all the same to me .... how is it possible that poeple do not converge and agree and compromise on a single solution?!?!?!?!
[18:09] <eeos> BluesKaj: anyway, mine was a general consideration! I need to go  .... it is dinner time  .... thanks for the discussion, talk to you later.
[18:09] <BluesKaj> I'm not a dev, you should be asking these questions and making these arguments in #kubuntu-devel
[18:10] <BluesKaj> eeos,^
[18:10] <eeos> BluesKaj: you are right .... I will!
[18:10] <eeos> BluesKaj: have a good night!
[18:10] <BluesKaj> you too
[18:10] <acheronuk> o_O
[18:10] <BluesKaj> heh
[21:43] <abdou023> whoiam
[21:55] <bprompt> abdou023:    just yourself :)