[00:00] should i just start fresh or is there an easy way to swap the Ubuntu OS HDD with a new one so I don't have to re-install everything? [00:01] conr: you want to take one HD out and replace with another? [00:01] TJ-: [00:01] yes [00:01] conr: can both devices be connected to the system at the same time ? [00:02] maybe, i have a eSTATA port but i don't think i have the cord to connect to a SSD. [00:02] conr: how about connecting both internally temporarily? [00:03] conr: or is this a laptop/nnotebook? [00:03] no desktop, i could try so if i did that what's the process? [00:04] conr: well, assuming you have a spare sata cable, pop the side/cover off, put the 2nd drive in, connect to a Mobo SATA port and to power [00:04] conr: the other question is how big is the new disk? larger capacity than the original? [00:05] so the current is a 50GB and the new is 250GB [00:06] what's the drive space cmd? `fdisk` [00:06] conr: that's a partitioning tool, but it will report device capacity [00:07] conr: so it's not just a clone, but an expand too [00:08] so the boot `/dev/sda1` has 48.2G [00:09] a fresh install 18.04 would use one partition, including swapfile [00:09] actually i think its a 60GB SSD. [00:09] yeah but the other is a 250GB SSD [00:09] conr: you could use them both if they fit internally [00:10] conr: it is possible to configure things so that the space on the new device is mounted into the directories where you need it (possibly for /home/) [00:10] well let me explain more [00:11] i have 4TB HDDs (2x) for storage [00:11] with a RAID profile [00:11] so i just use the SSD for the Bionic OS [00:11] but 60GBs is too small now [00:14] can anyone recommend a way to set up a dock for ubuntu 18.04? The most common suggestion is the 'dash to dock' extension, but that's not exactly what I want. I want to keep the dash as it is. There is also the 'simple dock' gnome3 extension, but it's broken on ubuntu 18.04. [00:15] conr: where is most of the OS storage being used? 60GB is a LOT for just the OS? [00:15] conr: I'd bet you have /home/ on the OS drive, not the RAID array? [00:15] right [00:15] i just mnt the raid profile to the OS [00:16] conr: so you could make the new drive just for /home/, move the existing /home/ content to it, and create a mount entry in fstab for it [00:16] conr: that'd avoid you need to do much beyond a file copy (move) [00:16] so i'm looking at dis usage analyzer [00:16] it only has 10GB total for / [00:17] is that default for the partition? [00:17] conr: how about "sudo du -x -sh /home" [00:17] 236M [00:18] conr: 236MB for home? [00:18] that's the output [00:19] conr: you need to identify where the space is being used then! "sudo du -x / | sort -n" will list the biggest users last [00:19] conr: hang on, change that [00:19] conr: you need to identify where the space is being used then! "sudo du -x -d 2 / | sort -n" will list the biggest users last [00:19] conr: the "-d 2" will limit the directory depth of the report [00:20] so like i said / is 10GB [00:21] then /usr is 4GB then /var is 4GB [00:21] conr: does "df -h" reveal anything? It sounds like you've got multiple mount points OR some space unused [00:21] conr: if the device is 60GB then its either not using a large part of that, or there's plenty of free space [00:21] what's tmpfs? [00:22] conr: RAM file-system [00:22] conr: used for in-memory mounts for things like /dev cgroups /tmp/ and more [00:22] oh i see it [00:24] "/dev/sda1" 48G Size 45G Used [00:25] or "udev" 3.6G Size 0 Used [00:28] @TJ- [00:28] anyone know how i can create a shortcut to a python application? E.g. catfish or deluge. I can launch them from the app menu just fine but if i create a shortcut on the desktop using ln -s, it just opens the python script file (which is a launcher for the actual application) [00:33] white_magic: create a desktop file [00:33] EriC^^: ill try that, thx [00:35] np [00:37] white_magic: a nice trick if you want it to run in a terminal and stay open after finishing is to do " gnome-terminal -e "bash -c '/path/tp/pythonscript.py;bash'" or whatever terminal you're using [00:43] conr: if /dev/sda1 is the / file-system, and 'df' reports 45G used, that doesn't match with what 'du' reported, which suggests some (large) deleted files are being held open by a process [00:47] my trash is empty [00:47] TJ-: [00:48] conr: I'm not on about trash, I mean running processes that still have file descriptors open to large files that you've unlinked, but are not yet closed and therefore not deleted. Has it rebooted recently? [00:48] rebooted today [00:49] Hi Ubuntu. I ran startx and now I can't login via lightdm, please advise. [00:50] conr: Usually when the reports from 'df' and 'du' vary so much it is due to unlinked files helpd open by running processes. I'd recommend a reboot and check those values again. If 'df' doesn't agree closely with 'du' then you've got something wrong there [00:56] TJ- what cmds am I comparing again? [00:57] wabbits: duck season. [00:57] conr: "df -h" vs "sudo du -sh /" [00:57] wabbits: ubu server? [00:57] desktop 14.04 [00:58] wabbits: new install? [00:58] nope ancient [00:58] wabbits: hardware change? [00:58] nope [00:58] yes sort of [00:58] wabbits: ? [00:59] I was having problems with my hdmi display coming out of power saver mode [00:59] It wouldn't "sync" [00:59] wabbits: hmm sounds like display authority lock [00:59] my nomenclature may be way off [00:59] how do I verify or remedy? [00:59] wabbits: gimmie a sec [01:00] take your time. [01:00] thanks for helping [01:00] TJ-: first is 232M second is 2.0T / [01:02] conr: oh! my fault, that included your RAID! need to tell 'du' not to cross into other mountpoints, add the "-x" option as in "sudo du -x -sh /" [01:03] now 9.5G [01:03] conr: also, to make it easier to read the 'df' output use "df /" to limit it to the root file-system [01:04] wabbits: you on tty1? [01:04] yeah so `df -h /' says Size 48G Used 9.6G Avail 36G [01:04] yeah so `df -h /' says Size 48G Used 9.6G Avail 36G` [01:05] ncdu is also handy for visualizing du [01:05] conr: so right, you have free space :) [01:06] I am currently logged in as another user on pts/2 and pts/11 [01:06] conr: so your new SSD could be used alongside the existing SSD but there's no major squeeze that requires it [01:06] TJ-: so why do i get 1GB < popup warnings [01:06] wabbits: multi user logged in? [01:07] conr: I have no idea, I have no context as to what you're referring to [01:07] I have root on vt1 and my alternate user on vt7 [01:07] not sure about multi user [01:07] I am old and losing the plot :) [01:08] wabbits: well that would be 2 users so. yes [01:08] oh you mean run level > 2 [01:09] wabbits: ctrl-alt-f7 no gui correct? [01:09] TJ-: when i open the disk usage analyzer it has the / size as 9.9G [01:09] yes my alternate user has a gui on vt7 [01:09] s/yes// [01:09] shouldn't it be 36G [01:09] wabbits: why logged on a root? ubu defaults to no root logins [01:10] root is logged on on vt1 [01:10] conr: 9.9G matches the used space you just reported doesn't it? [01:10] so that I could look at some logs while I poked around on vt7 [01:10] with my alternate user [01:11] vt1 meaning ctrl-alt-f1 [01:12] wabbits: ok so alternate reg user will not startx so i would delete the user's .Xauthority and .ICEauthority files and reboot. [01:13] https://termbin.com/kb99 [01:13] TJ-: 9.5G but yeah [01:13] does /var or /var/log have size quotas? [01:13] snowgoogles do I have to reboot or can I just go back to lightdm? [01:14] wabbits: pts are pseudo term logins [01:14] is that a yes or a no, I can't tell. [01:14] PLEASE explain wat this does ? [01:14] https://snapcraft.io/cqtdeployer [01:14] conr: no. I have /var/ as a separate file-system to avoid it causing issues with / and on some systems I have /var/cache/ as another separate [01:15] wabbits: i'm guessing it's a locked .Xauthority file so delete the user's file and reboot to recreate it. [01:15] ok so a no. will do [01:15] brb [01:15] Where are some FPS games as snaps on Ubuntu too ? I'm getting flusteredly boredommed. [01:16] AuroraAvenue, the owner explains it all in https://github.com/QuasarApp/Console-QtDeployer/wiki [01:16] cheers pal. [01:18] any clue on a decent FPS on ubuntu yet? [01:19] OerHeks, PMd ya. [01:20] tons of them, and more on Steam [01:20] I cant pay for Steam & it takes ages to update anyway - plus I don't have the associated eMail no more ... so steam .... err, No. [01:21] lost hundereds of games that way. [01:23] if only i could actually be heard. [01:24] okay u [01:24] bye [01:25] snowgoggles you have fixed my login issue. Thank you. [01:26] two small corollarys if I may? [01:27] The display looks "different" like anti-aliasing or some such. Its bugging my eyes. [01:28] I switched from hdmi to dvi to see if the "sync" problem returning from power saver mode would go away. [01:30] wabbits: so the display is bad only after resume from sleep? [01:31] nope its just bad all the time now that I have switched to the dvi cable.. [01:31] like indistinct or maybe soft or fuzzy [01:32] wabbits: sounds like a screen refresh rate issue with the config [01:32] might not be a big deal. I have also been looking at black text on white background all day and I am used to the opposite. [01:32] checking [01:33] wabbits: my xserver display settings fu is pretty rusty [01:33] I will try the hdmi again tomorrow and see if it looks different. [01:34] for now I am just greatful to have a working setup. Thanks again! [01:34] wabbits: np [01:58] Good evening, everyone. I did something dumb. I took apart my computer without remembering how I got sound to play out of the rear-audio jack. [02:01] oerheks thank you for your help on november 18 [02:01] it did remove the adware but I think I somehow got it back so I will be deleting my user cache again [02:01] but this time I think I will be trying to back up my bookmarks first before resetting firefox [02:02] on3pk I can help with that [02:02] wabbits, oh cool [02:02] please pastebin `ps aux | grep pulse` and `aplay -l` and `aplay -L` [02:04] NewToLubuntu: she is propably in bed now, seeing it is 03:03 at night on her location. [02:05] wabbits, https://pastebin.com/008XVFqw [02:06] on3pk good, please pastebin `amixer -c0` and `pactl list` [02:08] while I am looking at that try this test `pasuspender -- speaker-test --nloops=1 --channels=2 --test=wav --device=hw:0,0` [02:08] and pastebin the output. alsa tell me if you hear anything. [02:09] * on3pk double checks his cables [02:10] on3pk I have other things I could be doing. [02:11] wabbits, Okay, this was a human error on my part [02:11] Sorry [02:11] so what was the error? [02:11] Speakers weren't plugged in properly [02:12] glad its working [02:12] Yeah, thank you for your help [02:12] What were you looking for in that data? [02:12] oh... [02:14] Well, if anyone else knows what wabbits was looking for, I am genuinely interested in finding out what I should look for if/when this happens again [02:15] on3pk: if it happens again, check your cables first [02:15] leftyfb, yep, that was a big mistake on my part [02:34] on3pk: what's the problem? [02:39] matsaman, at one point in time I could only get audio to play out the front speaker port. It wasn't this time, but in the past... [02:40] This time it was a human error [02:40] oh === uptime is now known as downtime === downtime is now known as uplime [05:10] hello, can anyone tell me which way to properly setup a cron job? I'm trying to have a cron job shutdown my computer @ midnight every night, but I'm having no luck doing it via crontab -e, nor by editing the /etc/crontab file directly. [05:11] Do you guys know where the scaling factor is stored in Kubuntu? I need to reset it because I believe that it's causing my programs to crash... [05:11] fwiw, I'm using 0 0 * * * root shutdown -h now >/dev/null 2>&1 [05:11] in the crontab [05:12] I'm on KDE right now but I can't open System Settings nor Terminal nor Dolphin === pony is now known as u-ou [05:27] I'm guessing tonight's not a good night for questions in this channel [05:29] thatlizdude: try dconf-editor === capella|away is now known as capella [05:46] * c3r34l_milk hi [05:47] :) [05:50] lol [05:50] ubuntu support here, c3r34l_milk. ask your question. [05:58] merry xmas cfhowlett :p [06:00] and a happy new year to you, lotuspsychje! [06:00] tnx mate [06:01] how can I copy a folder from ubuntu to a win10 laptop [06:01] on the same LAN [06:01] it takes too long to copy it within windows 10 [06:01] this laptop == ubuntu and win10 ultimate, the other laptop I wanna copy to == windows 20 home [06:04] ... [06:13] !samba | esjay [06:13] esjay: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba.html [06:15] Hello [06:16] Are we happy today? [06:16] c3r34l_milk, this is not a chat channel. if you have ubuntu questions, please present them. [06:16] ok === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius === capella is now known as capella|away === uplime is now known as uptime [08:43] hello [08:43] hi [08:43] I need help [08:43] with what? [08:46] i was trying to install windows 10 from an external hard drive, (i used mkusb) but in GRUB when i try to click on windows, it says "error: not a regular file.' "error: you need to load the kernel first." [08:46] austiko: do you want to install in uefi mode? [08:47] cause that'd be way easier to do [08:47] ok then sure [08:48] how would i do that? [08:49] austiko: make a fat32 partition and copy the contents of the windows iso (the actual files) to the partition [08:50] i have a problem though [08:50] austiko: use a gpt partition table on the usb, and set the fat32 partition to type "ef00" [08:50] what's the problem? [08:50] my external hard drive doesnt show up anywhere in ubuntu anymore [08:50] i tried to use gparted but it didnt show up [08:50] austiko: try "sudo parted -ls" and see if it's there [08:51] ok [08:51] Model: Seagate Portable (scsi) [08:51] Disk /dev/sda: 1000GB [08:51] Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B [08:51] Partition Table: msdos [08:51] Disk Flags: [08:51] Number Start End Size Type File system Flags === u-ou is now known as pony [08:53] so what do i do now? [08:54] Model: Seagate Portable (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 1000GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B Partition Table: msdos Disk Flags: [08:56] @EriC^^ [08:56] ok that's the ext hdd i'd guess right? [08:57] yes [08:59] austiko: if there's nothing on it you need, type "sudo gdisk /dev/sda" [08:59] ok [08:59] then press "o" to make a new gpt partition table [08:59] then what [09:00] austiko: press "n" to make a new partition [09:00] partition number? [09:00] use the default starting sector and ending sector (just hit enter keeping it blank) [09:00] hit enter [09:00] if it asks for type put in ef00 [09:01] it changed the partition [09:01] now what? [09:02] austiko: press "w" to write the partition [09:03] OK; writing new GUID partition table (GPT) to /dev/sda.Warning: The kernel is still using the old partition table. The new table will be used at the next reboot or after you run partprobe(8) or kpartx(8) The operation has completed successfully. [09:04] so do i reboot my pc now? [09:07] :D [09:09] HEY ERIC [09:09] hey [09:09] YOU JUST WIPED MY PC [09:10] !!!!!!! [09:10] qwebirc94569: what? you said /dev/sda was the external hdd [09:10] IT WAS [09:10] ok that's the ext hdd i'd guess right? [09:10] yes [09:10] austiko: if there's nothing on it you need, type "sudo gdisk /dev/sda" [09:11] so how did i wipe your pc using that command? unless you typo'd something bro [09:11] >:((((( [09:11] anyways no need to fret you can get everything back, most likely [09:11] did you typo the command? [09:12] no [09:12] ok, so you're booting from a live usb right now? [09:12] Nopr [09:12] Everything is gone [09:12] I can't use it anymore [09:13] qwebirc94569: you need to make backups before you try things [09:13] qwebirc94569: you dont have a live usb? [09:13] Nothing is on my external either it wiped both [09:13] relax, at most you nuked the partition table [09:13] ducasse has a point, it's nothing major [09:14] It says "boot device not found" "please install an operating system on your hard disk" [09:14] oh, lol [09:14] that doesnt mean crap [09:14] So how can I fix it [09:14] at this point get a live usb to troubleshoot [09:14] https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop [09:15] how can I do that if this was the only computer in my entire household??? [09:15] I only have the external hard drive, too [09:16] qwebirc94569: make sure you're booting the right drive in the bios with the right mode selected [09:17] how big is your usual hdd? [09:17] not the ext one [09:17] It is 32 gigs [09:18] ok [09:19] So I guess im just screwed [09:19] did you try selecting the right disk in the bios? [09:19] self pity isnt really helpful [09:19] It only says "os boot manager" [09:19] I'm not self pittying myself [09:20] well there's a solution, it might involve driving to a friends/family to make a live usb [09:20] qwebirc94569: why did you have windows on an external hd exactly? [09:20] I was trying to switch from Ubuntu to windows [09:20] he didn't have it there lotus, he was trying to create a windows installation usb [09:21] qwebirc94569: install ubuntu and load a windows with virtualbox, make your life easy [09:22] Yeah I probably should have done that [09:22] qwebirc94569: from a liveusb ubuntu you can also recover data [09:23] Well I ordered a usb the other day so I'm not even gonna bother with Ubuntu I'm just going to install Windowsbackk [09:23] qwebirc94569: did you try booting in legacy mode, you might have some residual bootloader in the mbr you could (possibly) work with [09:24] qwebirc94569: did you use your external hd for both data backup and install usb? [09:24] Yes it just showed a blinking line [09:24] No [09:24] I haven't backed up anything [09:24] blinking line means wrong uefi settings [09:25] So what would I do to fix that [09:25] qwebirc94569: what is your end goal? singleboot ubuntu? dualboot? [09:25] Well for now just singleboot [09:26] Because I won't be able to do the windows thing for a whe [09:26] While* [09:26] qwebirc94569: disable fastboot & secureboot then boot your ubuntu usb F12 [09:27] Secureboot is disabled and there isn't a fastboot option [09:27] F12 just makes a beeping sound [09:28] !uefi | qwebirc94569 [09:28] qwebirc94569: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [09:28] qwebirc94569: if your system is uefi, you have to get a fastboot [09:30] qwebirc94569: do you remember running any efibootmgr commands? [09:30] No [09:31] qwebirc94569: did you install grub on external hd? [09:31] Everything that was Ubuntu was on my computer's hard drive [09:32] I made the external a bootable drive using mkusb [09:32] qwebirc94569: did you try to enter your system with grub? [09:32] Now it doesn't show up at all in boot manager [09:32] How do I do that [09:32] qwebirc94569: hold shift before boot [09:33] Holding shift doesn't do anything [09:33] qwebirc94569: did you run any commands or something in gparted prior to us talking here? it would be felt after the reboot [09:33] mkusb /dev/sdb for instance? [09:33] Yes [09:33] I think I did [09:33] was it /dev/sdb ? [09:33] I don't remember [09:33] cause that'd be your ubuntu OS as your system had them reversed [09:34] I think all of them were /sda [09:34] if you followed some online guide they probably had that there as an example as the usb is usually sdb sdc etc [09:34] they cant all be sda [09:34] Like sda1, sda2, etc [09:34] But one of them was sdb [09:34] I tried running that one [09:34] those are partitions on the same, not separate disks [09:35] aha, well that toasted the ubuntu install === system56 is now known as system16 [09:36] fuck [09:36] seems like I can't start jackd2 (1.9.12) as the jackdbus just freezes on 18.04 [09:36] qwebirc94569: try to get an usb stick somewhere, then rescue data from a live [09:36] I am getting a usb stick delivered here Monday, luckily I ordered that before this [09:38] qwebirc94569: your ubuntu is pretty toast i'd think at this point [09:38] googling mkusb says it basically uses "dd" to put an image on the disk [09:39] you'd be able to recover individual files possibly using photorec, or if your ubuntu partition was more than 4gb in size (i think that's the windows installer size) then the filesystem should still be in tact and you could find and mount it using testdisk [09:40] I'm on ubuntu right now! [09:40] i mean if the ubuntu partition is further in the disk than 4g in size * [09:40] So how would I run testdisk? [09:41] sudo apt-get install testdisk && sudo testdisk [09:41] you just need to do "sudo testdisk" later on [09:41] Oh I can't do that my computer is just a shell now lol [09:44] I'm going to go to bed [09:45] okay, found out it might have something to do with ALSA [09:46] https://github.com/jackaudio/jack2/issues/116 - changing mode from duplex to playback only enables jack to start === system56 is now known as system16 === system56 is now known as system16 [09:55] hello [09:57] hi [09:58] Isn't irc really old [09:59] austiko: stick to ubuntu support questions here please, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat [09:59] K === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk [11:47] Hi [11:48] welcome Siamaster [11:48] I have a 8 tb hard drive. It's new. It's a NAS hard drive and I think that's why it's showing only 1.4 gb [11:48] sorry 1.4 tb [11:49] how can I format it so I can use all available space? [11:49] there are no partitions on the drive, it's new [11:49] Siamaster: gparted is nice [11:49] Siamaster: see if using a gpt partition table makes a difference [11:49] ok. what should I look for ? What are the terminology for this setup? [11:50] I mean, what should I remove? === SimonNL_Afk is now known as SimonNL [11:51] What time is it where you guys are [11:52] austiko: you already got told this is not a chat [11:52] Jeez sorry [11:52] austiko: use #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic please [11:54] Error: The location 5.00TB is outside of the device /dev/sdb. when I try to create a gpt partition with partet [11:55] I tried mkpart primary 0.00TB 5.00TB [11:57] Siamaster: try using gdisk [11:57] Siamaster: what does sudo parted -ls show for the size [11:58] Disk /dev/sdb: 1404GB [11:58] i guess you have to let it see the full disk first [11:58] how do I do that? [11:59] no idea, you mentioned some NAS stuff is related? [11:59] maybe remove that and do it barebones after restarting? [11:59] yes, it's a "Nas hard drive" I don't even know why [11:59] remove what? === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk [12:02] i thought you meant NAS like some networking layer stuff [12:02] Siamaster: does "dmesg | grep /dev/sdb" mention anything? [12:03] no, it says nothing [12:03] It's a new hard disk. I haven't even mounted it once [12:04] But I don't know how to do that either, also it says that it only has 1.4 TB [12:04] hmm try sudo grep /dev/sdb /var/log/kern.log [12:04] says nothing either [12:04] but this is what gdisk says: Partition table scan: MBR: protective BSD: not present APM: not present GPT: present [12:07] seems like others had the same issue https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/8-tb-usb-drive-detected-as-1-4-tb.63217/ [12:09] Siamaster: how are you connecting the hard disk? many people seem to have issues with the connections making different brand hdd's show as less [12:09] Siamaster: in the bios is it set to raid or ahci? that's important it seems [12:10] I'm using a cabinet [12:10]