[10:52] <seekr> tomreyn: Hi.  I just wanted to send a quick thanks again for your help, especially for pointing me at the Ubuntu Apache server setup article - between it and another one I found by searching on "test mod_rewrite," I found why rewriting wasn't happening.  It turns out that there was a directive in apache2.conf that was preventing .htaccess file from being processed.  Though I'd like to bring the content of those files back into server config ones
[10:52] <seekr> eventually, just getting the thing working for now, which it now is, is good enough.  Much obliged!
[13:08] <tomreyn> seekr: you're welome. i'm surprised, since "AllowOverride none" (which disabled .htaccess parsing) is not set by default.
[13:10] <tomreyn> you should totally work towards making it that, though, for performance and security reasons https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/howto/htaccess.html#when https://haydenjames.io/disable-htaccess-apache-performance/
[13:12] <tomreyn> also, as a side note, if you like php to be at least somewhat 'debuggable' then you should not use mod_php but fpm with either nginx (which IMO is usually faster) or apache httpd.
[13:13] <tomreyn> it's also a matter of resources you hve available, though. if you're generally short of ram, and dont have a lot of requests, mod_php can be the better option
[14:56] <seekr> tomreyn: Thanks for the further advice.  Actually, "AllowOverride None" was set in the default apache2.conf that came with the new install from the repo.  I came across something that suggested messing up an .htaccess file to try to generate an error, which would indicate the file is being processed (which it wasn't), that did the trick.  s/None/All did the trick!  I will check out those other things you suggest when I get a chance.  Thanks again!
[15:01] <tomreyn> seekr: hmm actually i may be misinformed and "AllowOverride None" is indeed set by default. sorry then.
[15:02] <tomreyn> s/None/All/ is not what you want there
[15:06] <tomreyn> i'd keep "AllowOverride None" in apache2 and override this within the virtualhost scope by another AllowOverride directive, which (unless All is needed) I would then limit to those directive types you actually need in .htaccess files. https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/core.html#allowoverride
[18:33] <cryptodan_mobile> seekr: you are welcome even though I suggested something minuscule
[19:01] <Ussat> Huh, anyone had any ossues putting Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on a Dell Prescision 5820 ? keeps saying no nic detected
[19:02] <Ussat> issues
[19:02] <Ussat> google is not telling me anything
[19:28] <seekr> tomreyn: thanks - will do ASAP
[20:45] <cryptodan_mobile> Ussat: server or desktop?
[21:02] <lordcirth> Ussat, seems like a pretty new PC?  Try 18.04, or install the hwe kernel.
[21:02] <lordcirth> Actually I think Desktop installs hwe by default
[21:16] <Ussat> Yea...we got it...1804 worked, but client insists MUST be 1604...we will see where this goes
[21:19] <Ussat> Yea its a workstation/server....1604 shit all over, turns out this thing has 4 X 1TB SSD's in it and they did not bother to tell us how they want it configured...I have email out to the requesting client....sigh...
[21:20] <Ussat> but I think they will bitch about 1804 because of the software says it requires 1604
[21:25] <tomreyn> can anyone recommend a good efi-amd64 CLI based live system which comes with (or where it's easy to add when live) madadm, lvm2, cryptsetup?
[21:26] <tomreyn> i'm using the d-i server installer now, dropping to a shell. its not ideal, but workable.
[21:38] <lordcirth> tomreyn, I think parted magic has a boot option to boot without X
[21:51] <tomreyn> thanks. i forgot free + open source on my requirements list
[22:12] <tomreyn> when, on a uefi booted system with GPT and ESP, you run update-grub and grub-install /dev/sda , which files would you expect to see in and below /boot/efi/EFI ?