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| rsully | Any tips on how to debug a VM that is stuck on cloud-init during boot? It gets through network devices and routes, then hangs | 17:14 |
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| lordcirth | rsully, anything in syslog? | 17:15 |
| rsully | lordcirth how could I check that exactly? ssh isn't started yet | 17:15 |
| lordcirth | Ah, so you don't have a tty either? Just a stuck boot? | 17:15 |
| rsully | nada, this is what I see from VNC: https://other.f1le.me/view/f289d95e48a629db386f2143436e9afd | 17:17 |
| lordcirth | rsully, ah ok. In the past I've added a serial console device to the VM, logging to disk. Depending on the type of freeze, that might get you more info | 17:23 |
| tomreyn | rsully: are you sure it's stuck? since i've seen VMs spill this info after they printed the login prompt | 18:42 |
| tomreyn | i.e. it may just be up and running and waiting for you to ssh | 18:42 |
| tomreyn | (but yes i guess you should be able to hit enter and get another login prompt) | 18:43 |
| rsully | tomreyn no its stuck, ssh does not work, does not respond to enters | 19:27 |
| tomreyn | i see | 19:28 |
| Gorian | so, no more "minimal" or "vm" install option in the ISO installer - any other options besides the cloud image + cloud init? | 19:45 |
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| tomreyn | Gorian: mini.iso still exists, and so does the alternatice server installer | 20:01 |
| Gorian | where/ | 20:01 |
| Gorian | *? | 20:01 |
| tomreyn | ubuntu.com/download | 20:02 |
| Gorian | ... that's not helpful at all. I've searched all over the damn place, and I've found cloud images,which seem to require cloud-init. I've found installers for powerpc and arm (alternative installers), and the normal ubuntu server install, which has no minimal options | 20:09 |
| Gorian | I've found nothing offering minimal installation, and linking to the default download page certainly doesn't tell where it is either | 20:09 |
| Gorian | ubuntu.com/download > "Ubuntu Server" https://i.imgur.com/cwR5qrA.png "ubuntu 18.04 LTS and Ubuntu 18.10" | 20:10 |
| Gorian | ubuntu.com/download > "https://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud" - disk images that require me to write them directly to the VM disk and then initialize with cloud-init, as far as i can tell from running them | 20:11 |
| tomreyn | Gorian: on the first screenshot you posted, does it mention "alternative"? | 20:12 |
| Gorian | yes, did you see my comment about the alternative installers being for powerpc and arm and shit? | 20:13 |
| Gorian | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04.1/release/ | 20:13 |
| Gorian | as far as I can tell, the AMD64 installer is no different from the one linked on the main page | 20:13 |
| tomreyn | it is | 20:13 |
| tomreyn | it is different | 20:14 |
| tomreyn | the default server installer how has "live" in its file name. the alternative one is the old-style debian-installer without "live" in its name | 20:14 |
| Gorian | So, when I mentioned that I looked at all of those things, and then specifically mention that I looked at the alternative installers, wouldn't it have been easier to say "the alternative installer for amd64 does what you want" instead of linking the same download page I had already scoured for a half hour? | 20:15 |
| Gorian | 🤦 | 20:15 |
| tomreyn | i told you you may want the alternative installer, first thing i told you. | 20:16 |
| tomreyn | the other image i mentioned, mini.iso, has always been next to the netinstall stuff, and it still is: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ | 20:17 |
| tomreyn | this said, i'm not sure either of these installers offer a "minimal installation" choice. they just create small installations by default. | 20:20 |
| tomreyn | the smallest you can create is probably one based on debootstrap, though. | 20:20 |
| tomreyn | but then, size is not everything. will it suit your needs? i don't know (i don't know your needs). | 20:21 |
| Gorian | tomreyn: I'll try it out, thanks. | 20:52 |
| Gorian | and, actually, debbootstrap isn't a terrible idea 🤔 | 20:55 |
| tomreyn | Gorian: if you debootstrap, go with the latest, i.e. disco | 21:36 |
| Gorian | noted | 21:36 |
| Ussat | Just classic...... | 21:53 |
| Ussat | Lab orderes a Dell w/Ubuntu 16.04 preinstalled, thats OK......they get it configured with 4X 1TB SSD's, thats ok also, it has NO LVM......WTF ya all smoking ?? | 21:53 |
| Ussat | sigh | 21:53 |
| Ussat | So I figure, OK NP, I will reinstall with the Dell iso....oh wait.......its all scripted and gives you no configure options | 21:53 |
| Ussat | it just does its thing | 21:53 |
| * Ussat cries | 21:54 | |
| TJ- | Ussat: reconfigure in-place from initialramfs :) | 22:04 |
| Ussat | I am waiting to see what the Lab wants it set up as...... if they just want a big 4TB disk, I am just gonna add them all to / and be done with it | 22:09 |
| Ussat | I just find it totally assinine they did not use a LVM | 22:09 |
| Ussat | I am half tempted to call Dell to find out | 22:12 |
| Gorian | use ZFS? | 22:13 |
| Ussat | I could I guess...... | 22:14 |
| Ussat | need to see how they want this thing | 22:14 |
| Gorian | ah, that's always fun | 22:14 |
| Ussat | Oh its ALWAYS fun here | 22:14 |
| tomreyn | there are actually applications where you want JBOD, such as big data | 22:19 |
| Ussat | Right, this isnt that | 22:19 |
| tomreyn | so *maybe* they actuall yordered it this way | 22:19 |
| tomreyn | ok | 22:20 |
| tomreyn | ;) | 22:20 |
| Ussat | and if youre doin "big data" 4TB is a drop in the bucket, a VERY big bucket | 22:20 |
| tomreyn | true. also you'd probably want a small raid-1 for the OS | 22:21 |
| tomreyn | Gorian: fyi https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debootstrap/+bug/1810123 | 22:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1810123 in debootstrap (Ubuntu) "Merge debootstrap 1.0.112 from Debian Sid" [Medium,Fix committed] | 22:24 |
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