[00:01] <wxl> Qt supports the static features of SVG 1.2 Tiny. ECMA scripts and DOM manipulation are currently not supported.
[00:01] <wxl> ^^ quote from the website. does that help?
[00:01] <wxl> https://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/feature/1.2/#SVG-static << static features
[00:02] <wxl> 1.2 tiny spec https://www.w3.org/TR/SVGMobile12/
 @wxl [<wxl> https://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/feature/1.2/#SVG-static << static features], guess it means that I can use SMIL?
[00:09] <wxl> don't think so. animation isn't involved in that list
[00:11] <wxl> qtsvg does support animation though, so....
[00:12] <wxl> seems there's SOME sort of confusion, as seen here https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23095732/why-do-animated-elements-in-qtsvg-need-to-be-of-type-animatetransform-in-order-t
 https://www.w3.org/TR/SVGMobile12/animate.html
[00:12] <wxl> yes, but they only do the static features
[00:12] <wxl> nothing else
[00:12] <wxl> not the entirety of the 1.2 tiny spec
 I’ve found function “animated()” here: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qsvgrenderer.html does it change anything?
 Actually it’s not a best idea to animate parts of UI inside of SVG.
[00:25] <wxl> yeah i'm not sure. haven't played with it honestly. 
[00:27] <wxl> do you do irc at all?
 @wxl [<wxl> do you do irc at all?], Used it in the past. When I was 15 years old.
[00:30] <wxl> there is a #qt channel on freenode
 Welcome @Zlaty
 If you find any issue you think it must be enhanced, feel free to share it here. More are eyes are better. For example, there has been a lot of critics over the volume icon in the panel, we didn't notice that before
 @HMollerCl [If you find any issue you think it must be enhanced, feel free to share it here. …], I have experience of installing 18.10 with LXQt on weak(but modern: Gigabyte Brix BACE-3160 / Celeron J3160, 4Gb RAM, etc.) PC. Unfortunately, it wasn't close to LXDE in performance meaning.
 Somehow I turned on the translucent mode of UI, and it almost decreased performance to Windows 10 level.
 It’s not representative feedback because I just started exploring LXQt.
 But the main feature of lubuntu always was lightweight.
[01:15] <lynorian> zlaty: turn off compton then it is not nessecary
[01:16] <lynorian> it is off by default becasue of performance
 Mmm, Compton, which creates transparency effects, consumes recourses. I haven't test that much but I believe that the amount of recourses used depends on how much effects you have configured
[01:17] <wxl> also for perspective: lxde is really not being developed very well. if and when they do manage to get gtk3 compatibility working, it will not be as lightweight as lxqt. the comparison between old lxde and current lxqt really isn't fair
 That's why I believe Compton should not be enable by default
 I've done comparison between lxde and lxqt system task (panel, file manager, etc...) and lxqt is lighter than lxde in those
 You could also disable qlipper if you don't use it
[01:20] <zlaty> HMollerCl: lynorian is right about compton, i guess trouble was in it
[01:21] <lynorian> that too I personally on my computer with 16 GB of ram and an amd ryzen 3 2200G I only have shadows but that is 
[01:22] <wxl> i also wonder if it's not possible that the celeron might not lack certain capabilities newer processors might have, regardless of speed
[01:24] <zlaty> wxl: PC was connected to 4K TV for monitoring purposes
[01:24] <lynorian> wait J is rebadged atom stuff so it was never that powerful to begin with
[01:25] <wxl> i'm thinking somewhat less about speed and more about optimizations for certain tasks where perhaps building around modern processors certain graphical tasks might not perform as well on the older stuff
[01:25] <wxl> but yeah atom--- eww
[01:27] <lynorian> no the more recent atom based stuff probably is not really that good at 4k
[01:27] <lynorian> wxl that processor is like one of the way later ones
[01:37] <lynorian> https://github.com/tsujan/FeatherPad/issues/57 yay 
[02:14] <Wafficus> hey guys, any updates in terms of that i3 manual addition?
[02:14] <Wafficus> just wondering cause I got my laptop booted up again, and wanted to mess around with it for a bit
 Any thoughts on apper? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apper @acheronuk ?
 Why don't we have it in lubuntu @tsimonq2 ?
[03:43] <Wafficus> what's apper?
 Package managee
 And software center
 You can install it is in the repos
[03:45] <Wafficus> ah I see
[03:45] <Wafficus> you know what would be a cool thing I could possibly do the for the new release though
[03:46] <Wafficus> to make a startup sound
[03:46] <Wafficus> does anyone think this would be cool or no?
[03:46] <Wafficus> a set of like 5 startup synth type openings
[03:46] <Wafficus> reminiscent of like Windows 98, MacOS, etc
[04:31] <Wafficus> also, has anyone ever gotten w3m-img to work with Q Terminal or is that not supported? I installed it via Muon package manager, but I still don't see any images in w3m by default while using Tmux plus QTerminal
 @Zlaty [I’m not specialized in raster graphics, but I can make a few wallpapers(actually …], Not currently, but something I should add to my todo list hopefully I'll have some non Lubuntu stuff wrapped up in a couple weeks and slam some of that stuff out.
 @Zlaty [I’m not specialized in raster graphics, but I can make a few wallpapers(actually …], Next codename is "disco dingo"
 @HMollerCl [Next codename is "disco dingo"], Nice. Thats sound so cool!
[16:05] <phoe6> Hello, I noticed a bug in Lubuntu 18.10 where I cannot change the default browser from firefox to something else.
[16:06] <phoe6> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/IReQNwvl/
[16:06] <phoe6> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/vGSlRHan/
[16:06] <phoe6> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/1pQRLXfG/
[16:07] <phoe6> Why does xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/lxqt/session.conf go with a default browser as firefox?
[16:10] <apt-ghetto> It was set by tsimonq2
[16:11] <phoe6> Only after I manually change that to chromium-browser, the Lubuntu recognized my default app change.
[16:11] <phoe6> Even changing to chromium-browser does not look correct to me.
[16:11] <phoe6> It should not be hardcoded
[16:12] <phoe6> I propose we remove that BROWSER variable from xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/lxqt/session.conf
[16:12] <phoe6> Bug report or patch? How can I go about this?
[16:13] <apt-ghetto> Please write a bug report, so it can be discussed first
[16:14] <apt-ghetto> You can create a task on https://phab.lubuntu.me or a bug report on https://launchpad.net
 This is our wiki link on reporting bugs: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/bugs/
[16:16] <apt-ghetto> The package is: lubuntu-default-settings
 There is a report of this issue already, feel free to add a comment there: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lxqt/+bug/1795539
 We also have a task in phab https://phab.lubuntu.me/T164
[16:29] <kc2bez> @tsimonq2 wxl it looks like lugito dropped out.
[16:35] <phoe6> Here we go https://phab.lubuntu.me/T177
 ...
 someone want to assist Simon (@tsimonq2) and his lazy oversleeping butt with providing me a link to maybe this known bug so I can answer the question here on Ask Ubuntu?  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1107054/when-minimized-lxpanels-2nd-level-selection-is-unselectable
 like maybe wxl or someone?
 :P
[20:55] <tsimonq2> Looking at fixing Lugito real quick.
[20:55] <teward> broken bot is broken heheheh
[20:55] <teward> :P
[20:56] <tsimonq2> Oh, somehow it got killed. Cool.
[20:56] <tsimonq2> It's back to life now.
[20:56] <tsimonq2> Should start processing items Shortly.
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 spam time!
[20:58] -lugito1:#lubuntu-devel- [T177: Unable to change the default browser on Lubuntu 18.10] orsenthil (Senthil Kumaran) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T177#3550
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