[00:04] <Haunted330> hi
[00:04] <visone> hi
[00:07] <TJ-> tripelb: Identify the Human Interface Devices using "udevadm trigger -v -s hid" then figure out which is the device you wish to disable
[00:14] <quality> Hi, I have add a .desktop file in ~/Desktop. However, the icon does not appear on my real desktop.
[00:14] <quality> There is only a Trash icon on my real desktop.
[00:15] <quality> I'm running Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTX (Bionic Beaver)
[00:15] <quality> s/LTX/LTS/
[00:15] <OerHeks> use gnome tweaks tool to enable items on the desktop
[00:15] <OerHeks> !info gnome-tweaks
[00:18] <quality> OerHeks: I'm not going to hide Trash, just want to let ~/Desktop icons appear
[00:21] <OerHeks> quality, a manually made .desktop starter, gives this warning https://linuxconfig.org/images/04-desktop-shortcut-launcher-ubuntu-18.04-bionic.png
[00:22] <OerHeks> but surely gnome-tweak allows dragging an icon to the desktop, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/09/pin-app-shortcut-desktop-ubuntu-18-04/
[00:23] <quality> OerHeks: mine show icon is set to on
[00:23] <quality> OerHeks: however, selfmade icons not shown
[00:23] <OerHeks> gnome-desktop-item-edit ~/Desktop/ --create-new  # from https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-create-desktop-shortcut-launcher-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[00:37] <alnr> my desktop icons disappear constantly. alt-F2 then r fixes it. what does that run, could I do it from a shell?
[00:52] <ubone> how to input forcepae before xubuntu 1804 boots when it doesn't show the usual ubuntu prompt?
[00:54] <OerHeks> ubone, use the F6 option to edit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[00:54] <ubone> it does't show the 'install' 'manual install' ... etc
[00:55] <OerHeks> oh, you are in a installed xubuntu?
[00:55] <guiverc> ubone, when you see the keyboard/man-in-circle you can hit space to get menu
[00:55] <ubone> oh ok, yes man-in-circle
[00:56] <ubone> thx
[00:57] <CarlFK> DISPLAY=:0.1 gedit - is this how I can force an app to open on a 2nd monitor?
[01:01] <clorisu> hey does anyone know why my bluetooth keyboard isnt being detected in bluetoothctl (or blueman for that matter)? its powered on with new batteries, and is being made discoverable.  im not sure the model no but here is where i bought it from https://miniso-au.com/product/13006/classic-bluetooth-keyboard-white . it is being detected by my mobile bluetooth just not my laptop. im on kernel 4.20.0
[01:28] <fishcooker> i have grub config like this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CcNZY7FkCz/ the first ubuntu options selected but still the box waiting the input enter button... how to make it automatically continue to the login dialog box ?
[01:35] <LostCodder> fishcooker: do you executed "grub-update" after  config change?
[01:56] <CarlFK> what is the xrandr command to disable the primary display?
[01:58] <CarlFK> xrandr --output HDMI-1 --primary; xrandr --output LVDS-1 --off
[02:15] <fishcooker> i have grub config like this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CcNZY7FkCz/ the first ubuntu options selected but still the box waiting the input enter button... how to make it automatically continue to the login dialog box ? no LostCodder: i do sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg but not permanent
[02:19] <OerHeks> timeoutstyle hidden perhaps ? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vr2WdVzV9H/
[02:24] <azizLIGHT> does ubuntu 18.04 or newer let you mute/vol updown/play/pause/next/prev on the lock screen
[02:25] <azizLIGHT> without loggin in again
[02:27] <geezer83> fail2ban is broken in ubuntu 18.04
[02:27] <geezer83> it won't add the chains to iptables
[02:27] <geezer83> even with a very basic config
[02:48] <ledeni> fishcooker: why not try sudo update-grub
[02:52] <tacomaster> I am having an issue with wayland and my intel graphics card. One of my monitors goes back but when i swap back to xorg both monitors work. Is there a way to get both monitors working under wayland?
[02:53] <tacomaster> I am on a dell optiplex 7040 which is supposed to have a ubuntu compatibility certificate for dell
[02:53] <tacomaster> I have also posted about it here https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2409617
[02:54] <poz1> Hello, Is this a good place to go for help?
[02:54] <tacomaster> poz1: here or the forums
[02:55] <poz1> Okay sounds good
[02:57] <poz1> I have a NAS set up, and I can see it on the network inside of Nautilus, but it wont let me access it
[02:57] <tacomaster> poz1: Maybe permission on the nas?
[02:58] <poz1> I have been googleing for awhile and tryed a few things but I either could not find the info I need to complete the steps or the steps did not work
[02:58] <poz1> maybe, but windows 10 computers can see and access it without any addtional steps
[02:59] <tacomaster> Is it a ntfs nas?
[02:59] <poz1> probobly
[02:59] <poz1> its been awhile since I set it up
[03:00] <tacomaster> Not the most experianced person in linux but you might need samba to mount ntfs network shares
[03:00] <poz1> Yes, and I have been trying that
[03:00] <poz1> but I need the share name of the NAS system, but I dont know what that is or where I can find that
[03:01] <tacomaster> you can do it by ip
[03:01] <tacomaster> \\ipaddress\share
[03:01] <poz1> \ipaddressshare: command not found
[03:01] <poz1> How do I pull the IP of the NAS?
[03:02] <tacomaster> lol read what I typed and put in the correct info
[03:02] <poz1> nm, I found it by guessing
[03:02] <tacomaster> and that is not a command it is a path to a network share
[03:05] <poz1> bash: //192.168.0.52/share: No such file or directory
[03:06] <tacomaster> .. I just told you that is not a bash command
[03:06] <tacomaster> that is a network path
[03:06] <poz1> interesting
[03:06] <poz1> you are typing words and I am reading words but I still am not sure what to do
[03:07] <tacomaster> Let me try to break it down what I mean
[03:07] <poz1> thank you
[03:07] <tacomaster> the \\ipaddress section like your \\192.168.0.52\ is the base of the share
[03:07] <tacomaster> so anything you share will start there.
[03:08] <tacomaster> Now if you share a folder called test it will be \\192.168.0.52\test
[03:09] <tacomaster> if you have a folder in test called newtest it will be \\192.168.0.52\test\newtest
[03:09] <tacomaster> Does that make since?
[03:09] <poz1> Yes, but I dont know how the structure of the folders are on my NAS
[03:10] <tacomaster> As I said I am probablly a bad person to ask on linux because I am a windows admin but I know some ip scanners can show you shared folders and shared printers
[03:11] <tacomaster> What kind of nas is it?
[03:11] <tacomaster> synology?
[03:11] <tatertots> poz1: open terminal
[03:12] <tatertots> poz1: smbclient -L 192.168.0.52|nc termbin.com 9999
[03:12] <poz1> https://www.wd.com/products/network-attached-storage/my-cloud-pr4100.html
[03:12] <tatertots> poz1: share url/link here...if you do not get a url/link..say so
[03:13] <tatertots> poz1: correct the ip if needed and share the url/link here
[03:15] <poz1> somthing is not working right. I dont think this is the result that should yeild: https://termbin.com/r9ot
[03:16] <JustAPerson> I killed my window manager (awesome). How do I restart it via ssh? What DISPLAY do I set for it to reconnect to the local x server? Tried DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 with no luck
[03:16] <tatertots> poz1: it's wanting the NAS login credentials/password
[03:17] <poz1> Thats weird, it has never asked for that in windows 10. its open on my network so guest privileges should work
[03:18] <tatertots> poz1: usually when a consumer obtains a NAS they configure some folders and define access permission for those folders...this is using done via the web interface or some software
[03:18] <tatertots> poz1: then just press ENTER
[03:18] <tatertots> poz1: smbclient -L 192.168.0.52
[03:18] <poz1> Yes, and when I type in 192.168.0.52 it goes to that interface
[03:19] <tatertots> poz1: hold on try this
[03:19] <poz1> so that brings up some info but its not my NAS info. its the info for the laptop I am on right now
[03:20] <tatertots> poz1: make a pastebin and share what info you see
[03:20] <poz1> It does need a user and password to access that interface. but I should not need it to access the public (on the netword) folders
[03:20] <poz1> okay
[03:20] <tatertots> poz1: if it's not the NAS then you got your IP's wrong
[03:20] <poz1> but the ip goes to access the nas so it has to be right
[03:21] <tatertots> poz1: then you better let me look at this "info"
[03:21] <tatertots> poz1: make a termbin or pastebin
[03:21] <tatertots> poz1: are you familiar with how to make a pastebin of the info
[03:21] <poz1> https://pastebin.com/7rP9jhbn
[03:22] <poz1> I did it the hard way by going to the webside and copying it over and creating the pastebin and then coping it to here
[03:22] <tatertots>  IPC$            IPC       IPC Service (My life is Cat NAS meow.)
[03:22] <tatertots> poz1: you said NOT your NAS eh?
[03:23] <poz1> I say a lot of things
[03:23] <poz1> not always knowing what I am talking about
[03:23] <tatertots> that's why it's important that you just let me look at things
[03:23] <poz1> so what is that?
[03:24] <tatertots> poz1: well my guess is '(My life is Cat NAS meow.)' is something you typed in while playing in the NAS web GUI correct? yes or no
[03:24] <poz1> Yes
[03:25] <poz1> its then named CATNAS on my network
[03:25] <tatertots> poz1: and you have a folder named Public?
[03:25] <tatertots> poz1: and you have a folder named Public on the NAS correct?
[03:25] <poz1> pronounced like the girl in the movie series the hunger games
[03:25] <poz1> Yes, I think thats what its called
[03:26] <tatertots> poz1: go visually confirm or double check what folders you have setup to be offered from this NAS
[03:26] <poz1> on windows its called "Public (\\CATNAS) (Z:)"
[03:27] <tatertots> poz1: so yeah i'm %100 certain that is the NAS
[03:27] <danst> [3038608.242500] audit: type=1400 audit(1546658773.868:259): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="snap.mjpg-streamer.mjpg-streamer" name="/dev/video0" pid=13166 comm="mjpg_streamer" requested_mask="wr" denied_mask="wr" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[03:27] <tatertots> poz1: in any event
[03:27] <danst> how to remove this apparmor thing so it doesn't interfere with my wishes to run mjpeg from snap
[03:28] <poz1> Yes, it is the NAS. what is the best way to share screenshots on here?
[03:29] <tatertots> poz1: in terminal>  smbclient \\\\192.168.0.52\\Public
[03:29] <tatertots> poz1: screen shots ... http://imgur.com
[03:30] <poz1> https://pasteboard.co/HUYKI01.png
[03:30] <tatertots> poz1: run that command and supply your password/credentials when prompted
[03:30] <poz1> I think I am in
[03:30] <poz1> i typed dir and I see everything
[03:31] <poz1> so next step is to mount this into a folder
[03:31] <tatertots> poz1: you see your data? yes or no
[03:31] <tatertots> poz1: good :)
[03:31] <poz1> Yes
[03:32] <tatertots> poz1: now you should also be %100 certain it is the NAS
[03:34] <tatertots> poz1: you can mount it if you want to use it in the GUI or simply use it command line...either one works the same to accomplish the task of moving files/folders
[03:35] <poz1> Yes, I am trying to figure out how to mount it permanently now
[03:35] <poz1> tring to follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:35] <tatertots> poz1: well if you want it automagically mounted anytime the computer boots up
[03:36] <tatertots> poz1: you'll need to fiddle with /etc/fstab
[03:37] <poz1> Yeah, I wish I did not have to so when I reset the network and the IP changes I never had to repeat these steps
[03:38] <poz1> but I followed it and it worked
[03:38] <poz1> I am going to restart now and see if it is still there.
[03:38] <poz1> Thank you for your help tatertots
[03:38] <tatertots> poz1: no prob
[03:45] <Rockwood> hello
[03:46] <Rockwood> i am looking anything like restore OS
[03:47] <Menzador> For what purpose?
[03:47] <Rockwood> my current ubuntu having lots of issue
[03:47] <Menzador> Are you looking to use a Live image of Ubuntu as a system recovery environment? It works quite well that way :)
[03:47] <Menzador> Oh, you're looking for a function or 2
[03:48] <Menzador> Did you use the Backup and Restore tool to make a backup image of your system?
[03:48] <Sven_vB> I'm backing up the remains of a broken Ubuntu. looks like something started to delete files until it managed to delete /bin/rm. any ideas how to trace the faulty program? syslog doesn't have anything in between the normal behavior and the failure. (successful cron job, then lots of error messages.)
[03:50] <Rockwood> Menzador, my backup system is not working in current stage
[03:50] <Sven_vB> also I wonder, it looks like it deleted files by date rather than by name, spanning multiple ext3 partitions. so it's probably not just a mistaken argument to rm -r
[03:52] <Menzador> Rockwood - There's an option to "Reinstall" from the Live image; that might be a good start. Be sure to back up your personal files elsewhere first
[04:30] <funyun> hi. when i restart, my resolv.conf changes nameserver 8.8.8.8 to nameserver 127.0.0.53. is there any way i can stop this? it prevents me from accessing the internet until i manually edit this each time
[05:34] <SlidingHorn> In my network settings, if I want to use a different DNS provider, do I enter the 2 ip addresses they use as comma separated?
[06:46] <ubone> the /home/ partition i used to mount to ubuntu already had some .bashrc like files - is there a command to init the debian ones to replace the old ones i have now?
[06:49] <pabed> hi guys , when I run vpn in ubuntu 18.04 I face this error message popup  connection failed "Activation of netwwork connection failed "
[06:51] <pabed> I also tried this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DWvWv8Z2cT/ but it doesn't wworkj
[07:12] <gambl0r3> why do i have to use sudo whenever i run 'heroku' commands.
[07:14] <SlidingHorn> gambl0r3: assumedly becaisd they require root privileges. Not sure what Heroku is though
[07:15] <gambl0r3> oh alright.
[07:39] <s10gopal> it is possible to install linux 2.6 in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[07:40] <SlidingHorn> s10gopal: why would you want to install such an old (and unsupported/end-of-life) kernel?
[07:52] <uboa> trying to get jpilot working with my palm tx and it just doesn't do anything while it waits to sync like nothing comes up in log it just timeouts on palm :oooo its set to usb: ...
[08:51] <crowncrypto> i just built a new system and ubuntu is very unstable for me, locks up twice a day and forces reboot.
[08:53] <SlidingHorn> crowncrypto: sounds like you have a regular schedule, which should help you debug it - What hardware? Version & flavor of Ubuntu? What errors are in the logs?
[08:55] <crowncrypto> thanks for the response slidinghorn, It is a brix mini pc j1900 with 8gb crucial ddr3l ram and a 1tb wd blue hdd.  Running 18.04.1 LTS.  How can I check logs?
[08:55] <SlidingHorn> crowncrypto: what flavor of Ubuntu is this?
[08:55] <crowncrypto> run lightning node linux
[08:56] <crowncrypto> oops wrong keyboard ^ disregard
[08:56] <crowncrypto> Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS (Bionic Beaver)
[08:56] <crowncrypto> desktop
[09:07] <solsTiCe> hi. a huawei medapad T10 android tablet fails to show up in nautilus. the mount point is there but no file are there. it is either spinning indefinitly or showing an empty dir. Is there a problem with mtp ? I don't wnat to try that with my phone
[09:10] <solsTiCe> ok. so I tried ptp and it worked. and now mtp works. wtf
[09:19] <aqd> hm oss4 loaded but no support for new ICH chip
[09:19] <aqd> but then it appears dmix works out of box now and I can use pulseaudio and alsa at the same time, heh
[09:40] <aqd> geekbench shows my ubuntu 18 is 10% faster than win8 :))
[09:58] <plasmoduck> Hey. I've installed my system from usb stick and for some reason it didn't install grub to the hdd, my system wont boot up without the usb stick plugged in. So how can I fix this?
[10:01] <ikonia> plasmoduck: put grub on the hard disk
[10:01] <plasmoduck> ikonia, whats the command?
[10:02] <ikonia> it's a set of commands, if this is a clean install you'll find it easier to re-install and pay attention at the grub install part fo make sure it installs onto the right device rather than the USB
[10:02] <plasmoduck> nah theres a bunch of stuff on here setup now
[10:02] <plasmoduck> I was 2 days ago I done it
[10:02] <plasmoduck> You got a good guide to the commands?
[10:02] <ikonia> that seems foolish to continue setting up a system that doesn't boot properly
[10:03] <ikonia> !grub2
[10:03] <plasmoduck> I tried $ sudo grub-install /dev/sda1
[10:03] <ikonia> plasmoduck: yeah, that's not going to work
[10:03] <ikonia> plasmoduck: check out the retoregrub link, I appreciate you've not just installed windows but the process is the same
[10:04] <plasmoduck> thnks
[10:05] <plasmoduck> On here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub it says to do sudo grub-install /dev/XXX like I did
[10:06] <ikonia> plasmoduck: yeah....it says to do more too
[10:07] <ikonia> the second question is what device identifier is the usb disk
[10:10] <plasmoduck> Okay I done it.
[10:11] <plasmoduck> It was 'grub-install /dev/sda'
[10:11] <ikonia> did what ?
[10:11] <plasmoduck> Thats it
[10:11] <ikonia> is it working now ?
[10:11] <plasmoduck> now I can unboot?
[10:11] <ikonia> what is the device identifier of the USB disk
[10:11] <plasmoduck> I don't kow
[10:11] <ikonia> then why are you typing sda
[10:11] <ikonia> if you don't know
[10:11] <plasmoduck> My hdd is /dev/sda
[10:11] <ikonia> are you %101 sure of that ?
[10:12] <plasmoduck> Yes
[10:12] <ikonia> ok then
[10:12] <plasmoduck> I done sudo fdisk -l and checked
[10:12] <ikonia> if you're sure, I'm not going to doubt you
[10:12] <plasmoduck> so then I ran sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[10:12] <plasmoduck> shoukd that be it?
[10:12] <ikonia> if that's all that was wrong it was missing from the mbr
[10:12] <plasmoduck> thats all I need to do to fix grub>
[10:12] <plasmoduck> ok
[10:13] <plasmoduck> ill heck
[10:25] <plasmoduck> hey ikonia it didnt work
[10:25] <plasmoduck> I still need to boot from usb
[10:25] <ikonia> shock horrr
[10:25] <ikonia> horror
[10:25] <plasmoduck> what am I missing?
[10:26] <ikonia> what is the actual error you get
[10:29] <plasmoduck> a bios error saying boot error
[10:29] <ikonia> plasmoduck: ok - how many disks are in your system
[10:29] <plasmoduck> Its the default message when there is no OS
[10:29] <plasmoduck> 1
[10:29] <ikonia> .....so I suspect when the USB disk is plugged in, sda is not actually your hard disk
[10:30] <EriC^> plasmoduck: can you paste 'sudo parted -ls' output?
[10:30] <plasmoduck> no idea
[10:30] <ikonia> as thats also the most common reason the installer fails to put grub on the mbr when the usb stick assumes that
[11:00] <plasmoduck> ikonia, https://pastebin.com/2Sx9tfC2
[11:01] <plasmoduck> thats without the usb plugged in
[11:02] <renn0xtk9> I have this problem when making apt update on KDE Neon (it is ubuntu 18.04 based)  https://pastebin.com/FZSL9idf
[11:03] <renn0xtk9> anybody understand what is taht?
[11:04] <renn0xtk9> test ?
[11:09] <guiverc> !neon | renn0xtk9
[11:14] <renn0xtk9> guiverc if it is ubuntu based , then the problem should still be relevant no ?
[11:14] <guiverc> renn0xtk9, maybe, maybe not.   either way it's off-topic in this room.
[11:15] <renn0xtk9> don't think so ... i think it is authoritarism
[11:16] <ikonia> it is offtopic
[11:16] <ikonia> we only support the official ubuntu releases here
[11:26] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:46] <plasmoduck> ikonia,
[11:47] <pragomer> hi. using ubuntu 18.04: why does a custom picture that I put into /usr/share/backgrounds/ not appear in the selectable images for desktop and/or locking screen??
[11:47] <pragomer> any hints?
[11:51] <aldcor> hi! It seems like my laptop is a bit louder on 18.04 compared to win 10. How so? I thought that opposite would actually happen since I chose to have only basic apps.
[11:58] <elias_a> aldcor: Could be different curve in adjusting the cpu fan speed.
[11:59] <elias_a> aldcor: Check out the the fan speeds in a typical use case in both operating systems.
[12:08] <hexhaxtron> I got many pictures taken with my Smartphone. Is there a tool that shows the location of a picture in Google Maps?
[12:08] <aldcor> elias_a, i erased win for good. There is only one OS on my hdd and its ubuntu
[12:10] <aldcor> it seems like using few apps simultaneously makes fun go harder but should it? I mean it's just google chrome + xchat + music on soundcloud.
[12:11] <aldcor> oh and one thing that bugs me real hard..
[12:13] <geirha> check chrome's task manager to see if any of the pages you have open is using a lot of cpu
[12:16] <aqd> hm how come wine installer can create ico and shortcuts automatically but I can't find built-in utility to do that for existing exes?
[12:18] <aldcor> videos are not as smooth as on win 10 even when using nvidia driver. The quality of videos are good but there's is an issue when action in a video is fast. Its not a lag. It's a like minor twitch.
[12:20] <aqd> tried vdpau?
[12:20] <aqd> oh it's chrome
[12:20] <Lope> how can I find a PID based on the program name AND it's run arguments?
[12:20] <aqd> Lope, ps aux | grep "...."
[12:21] <aqd> a better way would be a script to check /proc/* . it's how ps and pidof does it anyway
[12:21] <aqd> ha let me try to write .....
[12:23] <Lope> aqd, thanks I got it: ps aux | grep "[n]bd-client foo 1234 /dev/nbd0" | awk '{print $2}'
[12:23] <aqd> grep -l "Kindle" /proc/[0-9]*/cmdline
[12:23] <Lope> whoa, I'll try yours
[12:24] <aqd> the cmdline file is where you get command line and arguments in ps aux. it's not the same as the executable file name (esp in the case of wine apps)
[12:24] <Lope> ah, i see, long story
[12:24] <Lope> I'll go with mine, it's done.
[12:24] <Lope> Thanks bud
[12:27] <aldcor> oh yes! aqd you are right! on firefox its smooth. Thank you sir ;)
[12:37] <EriC^^> plasmoduck: type "sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt"
[12:42] <aldcor> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/18.0.5-0ubuntu0~18.04.1 can I use this even if i have ubunt 18.04 ?
[12:47] <aldcor> nevermind.. i already have it
[12:49] <Lope> aqd, okay, latest greatest command: pkill --full 'nbd-client foo 1234 /dev/nbd0'
[12:52] <aqd> ah, thanks!
[12:53] <Lope> aqd, there is also a better method than ps | grep... kill $(pgrep -laf "nbd-client foo 1234 /dev/nbd0" | awk '{print $1}')
[12:53] <Lope> marginally shorter.
[12:53] <Lope> But of course nothing beats pkill --full
[13:06] <sabrehagen> My disk usage shows as 93% available but processes fail to start citing no disk space. What's going on? https://i.imgur.com/JrGd15y.png
[13:11] <ikonia> lots of loop back file systems there....are you running low on ram/open file descriptors
[13:11] <ikonia> it's actually the forking of a new process that's failing
[13:13] <ikonia> if you've got lots of small files you could be running low on inodes too which will stop writes from happening
[13:18] <jason0597> i just installed (k)ubuntu 18.10 and i have an rx 470 GPU, i'm trying to get openCL working so i tried installing the opencl portion of the amdgpu-pro driver from AMD's website (they have instructions for that), but during the installation it failed with one of the packages saying it's only for 18.04
[13:18] <jason0597> so i edited /etc/os-release so that VERSION_ID is 18.04 instead of 18.10, hoping that the version check is simply there for redundancy rather than some deeper incompatibility, but as the installation was going along now, it failed to build the kernel module
[13:18] <jason0597> my question is: is there a way to get openCL working on ubuntu 18.10 without the amdgpu-pro drivers?
[13:19] <thyriaen> Hey, i have some kind of driver/opencl/mesa/hardware support kinda issue and i don't really know who / where to ask or what to do really xD
[13:20] <jason0597> what a coincidence, i'm here asking for amd drivers as well
[13:20] <thyriaen> when calling the command clinfo or trying to use my gpu for opencl application i wrote myself ( which work on different setup and hardware ) i get this error https://hastebin.com/kuwodejike.nginx
[13:20] <edlinde> guys I have CUDA 9 installed on Ubuntu 16.04, how do I get CUDA 8 also installed on it?
[13:20] <thyriaen> jason0597, what is your issue maybe i can help ? been through those alot - my question is rather specific
[13:20] <edlinde> its not allowing me to install 8
[13:21] <edlinde> says I got to first uninstall 9
[13:21] <jason0597> thyriaen: i'm on (k)ubuntu 18.10 and i need to get openCL support, but the amdgpu-pro drivers only support 18.04, so i don't know what to do
[13:21] <edlinde> anyone?
[13:21] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[13:21] <thyriaen> jason0597, you can use the open-source stack
[13:22] <thyriaen> jason0597, what is your gpu ?
[13:22] <jason0597> rx 470
[13:22] <jason0597> is the open source stack preinstalled or do i need to get it from somewhere?
[13:22] <thyriaen> jason0597, then you should have no issue concerning the kernel version in 18.10
[13:22] <thyriaen> jason0597, can you type clinfo and paste it to me ?
[13:23] <jason0597> uh oh segfault when it runs
[13:24] <thyriaen> jason0597, are you using padoka  ppa for mesa ?
[13:24] <jason0597> nope
[13:24] <thyriaen> there is an stable and unstable version - one of them is here https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/pkppa/
[13:26] <thyriaen> jason0597, that is just general drivers, now for opencl support you need 3 things as i can remember
[13:26] <thyriaen> jason0597, this is pretty good guide https://wiki.tiker.net/OpenCLHowTo
[13:27] <jason0597> i tried installing just the opencl portion of the amdgpu-pro driver, but it gave me errors about it only supporting 18.04
[13:27] <jason0597> so i edited /etc/os-release in the hopes that it would trick it
[13:27] <jason0597> but as the installation went through, it failed that the kernel module build
[13:27] <thyriaen> jason0597, is there any particular reason why you wnat to use the closed source amd stuff ?
[13:28] <jason0597> it's just that, while i was on arch, the open source stuff was about 4 times slower in openCL
[13:28] <thyriaen> ah
[13:28] <jason0597> if i can get open source openCL that's just as fast as it is on windows then i'll be ok
[13:28] <jason0597> i'll try that guide
[13:29] <thyriaen> jason0597, i am not 100% sure about opencl - but opengl performance was better with open source ( both for me and as tested here : https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amdgpu-pro-1830&num=1 )
[13:29] <thyriaen> jason0597, since december ( before i went on vacation ) amd released some open source opencl support stuff called Rocm
[13:29] <jason0597> hmm interesting
[13:29] <thyriaen> jason0597, https://github.com/RadeonOpenCompute/ROCm you can see it here,
[13:30] <thyriaen> jason0597, the installation process is pretty nicely written and straight forward
[13:30] <thyriaen> jason0597, you can even choose if you want to use closed source kernel driver "ROCk" or not
[13:31] <thyriaen> jason0597, i can't really tell you 100% whats rocm is all about because i still have 1 issue there - i mean i got it installed but i still have an issue there , thats why i am here :)
[13:31] <jason0597> i see
[13:33] <thyriaen> jason0597, but yea - ive been through the process 1 week ago - so just ask if you got a question - i think for you it will straight up work but it seems that for some reason my setup has problems with my rx vega since it seems to be missing one specific file for it
[13:33] <sabrehagen> My disk usage shows as 93% available but processes fail to start citing no disk space. What's going on? https://i.imgur.com/JrGd15y.png
[13:33] <goiko> Hi. When I download some executable package from the internet, by default is does not have executable permission. Is there a workaround for this for the user? by zipping the files with executable permission ?
[13:33] <jason0597> (in case it matters i'm trying to run this: https://github.com/zoogie/bfCL)
[13:34] <jason0597> goiko i don't think you can zip a file and have it keep its permissions
[13:34] <jason0597> if you want you can do "chmod +x <file>" to make it executable
[13:34] <goiko> jason0597, thanks for your answer, I know
[13:35] <goiko> I am looking for a workaround, so the user don't have to call chmod +x
[13:36] <ikonia> it's more about the file system it is put onto
[13:36] <ikonia> the best way is to ship it as a proper packaged product
[13:36] <goiko> right, good point
[13:41] <Blueking> was it pastebinit sumthin to write 'log' to a site where one can show errors to someone else ?
[13:41] <ikonia> yup
[13:42] <vlt> goiko: I know that tar preserves permissions.
[13:42] <rollappuser1> hi .. i have problem related to ubuntu 16.04 terminal..
[13:42] <ikonia> that will be overriden though depending on the file system and user it's extracted onto
[13:43] <goiko> thanks vlt, found https://askubuntu.com/questions/225865/copy-files-without-losing-file-folder-permissions
[13:44] <ddoobb> Hi guys, my WiFi stops working when I get back from suspend/hibernate. Tried all solutions from old askUbuntu threads, none worked.
[13:44] <ddoobb> I remember I fixed it a long time ago but after this fresh install it's back
[13:44] <rollappuser1> On opening the terminal in ubuntu 16.04 the path shown is not of current directory.. can anyone help me out
[13:45] <ddoobb> nm-applet says "device not ready"
[13:45] <vlt> rollappuser1: What does it show instead?
[13:45] <ddoobb> Same happens with my Ethernet but modprobe -r and -i fixes it
[13:46] <rollappuser1> Thanks...the path of home folder.. always
[13:49] <rollappuser1> vlt: it shows the path of home folder instead of current directory path
[13:50] <vlt> rollappuser1: And what does `pwd` say about the current directory?
[13:50] <rollappuser1> pwd shows the path of current working directory
[13:51] <tomreyn> rollappuser1: when did this start happening, did you make any changes which may have provoked this?
[13:51] <Nexilva> Hello. I have created a script for myself in /etc/init.d/mystuff and I want this to launch on every system reboot/start etc.
[13:51] <Nexilva> I don't know how to make this happen
[13:51] <Nexilva> What happened to runlevel?
[13:52] <Nexilva> Where is the rc config anymore?
[13:52] <Nexilva> Who tampered with Ubuntu?
[13:52] <Nexilva> Stop changing things! Old peopel get confused.
[13:53] <ikonia> have a little research into systemd
[13:53] <ikonia> it's been around for quite few releases
[13:53] <Nexilva> Who me?
[13:53] <ikonia> yes
[13:53] <Nexilva> Ok hang out
[13:53] <rollappuser1> tomreyn: I did not notice it earlier. I was not aware of this functionality of Ubuntu 16.04
[13:53] <Nexilva> systemd is a suite of basic building blocks for a Linux system. It provides a system and service manager that runs as PID 1 and starts the rest of the system.
[13:54] <Nexilva> So this is like a new init system?
[13:54] <Nexilva> Interesting.
[13:54] <ikonia> Nexilva: I'm aware of what it is
[13:54] <ikonia> Nexilva: yes
[13:54] <tomreyn> Nexilva: if you know anything about technology. it's occasionally neccessary to replace technology by better or more modern one. you would not want to run drive a car from the last century, would you?
[13:54] <ikonia> Nexilva: yes9but more)
[13:54] <ikonia> yes, (but more)
[13:54] <Nexilva> I see
[13:54] <Nexilva> Whatever
[13:54] <tomreyn> !releasenotes | Nexilva
[13:54] <Nexilva> How to make systemd autostart my script?
[13:55] <tomreyn> release notes tell you about such potentially breaking changes
[13:55] <ikonia> Nexilva: have a little reseaerch into it, there are a few ways
[13:55] <ikonia> Nexilva: depends on how you want to approach it
[13:55] <Nexilva> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.service.html#
[13:55] <Nexilva> I see.
[13:55] <Nexilva> I found this.
[13:56] <rollappuser1> tomreyn: May i know the possible issue that could have lead in terminal
[13:56] <Nexilva> Ahh. I have to have my own service script and then add that to systemd sysctl thingy
[13:56] <tomreyn> rollappuser1: it is not a default behavour of ubuntu 16.04, something changed on your system.
[13:56] <Nexilva> I see.
[13:56] <ikonia> Nexilva: that's one option
[13:56] <ikonia> Nexilva: as I said there are a few ways to approach i
[13:56] <ikonia> it
[13:56] <Nexilva> What are the other ones?
[13:57] <ikonia> Nexilva: do a little research as I said
[13:57] <ikonia> rather than just quickly google
[13:57] <ikonia> systemd is pretty critical
[13:57] <Nexilva> I haven't the time to invest into that amount of research
[13:57] <Nexilva> I need a quick solution to this.
[13:57] <ikonia> doubtful
[13:57] <Nexilva> Let's see.
[13:58] <Nexilva> I'll prove you wrong.
[13:58] <Nexilva> Hang tight, little buddy.
[13:58] <ikonia> I don't actually care
[13:58] <rollappuser1> tomreyn: should i update the kernel to avoid this terminal issue
[13:58] <Nexilva> I don't like talking with you
[13:58] <ikonia> if it was this important you'd keep up to date, if it's not that important you'd research it
[13:58] <Nexilva> It's aggravating me.
[13:58] <Nexilva> I find a buildup in my body that's causing me aggravation and not happy thoughts
[13:58] <Nexilva> I am going to ignore you
[13:58] <ikonia> so it's doubtful it's that important you all of a sudden need a solution
[13:58] <Nexilva> Thank you for your time
[13:58] <Nexilva> Good day.
[13:59] <tomreyn> rollappuser1: can you run this: pastebinit <( echo $PS1; readlink -f $(which $SHELL); lsb_release -ds; )
[13:59] <vlt> rollappuser1: I doubt that this is kernel related. You could check the behaviour with another user or with an empty .bashrc.
[14:02] <tomreyn> Nexilva: so, to make your life easier in the future, i suggest you read the release notes before you start an ubuntu upgrade. this way you can prepare for the changes it introduces, and are not surprised.
[14:02] <tomreyn> that's how sysadmins around the planet do it, too.
[14:05] <rollappuser1> vlt: Yes you right .. in new user is working currectly.. I think something is mistaken in .bashrc .. thanks a lot
[14:06] <jason0597> thyriaen: i installed ROCm and i run my program, but it runs about 5 times slower than it does on windows, so now i'm wondering if there's a way to determine if it's using the opencl loaders provided by ROCm
[14:06] <Nexilva> That was very esy.
[14:07] <Nexilva> Just execstart/execstop and add it to systmectl and enable it.
[14:07] <Nexilva> So systemd, huh
[14:07] <Nexilva> That's the new init thingy.
[14:08] <rollappuser1> tomreyn and vlt: thankyou both :)
[14:09] <tomreyn> rollappuser1: you're welcome. so you found out what changed?
[14:11] <rollappuser1> tomreyn: not yet but aleast i got the place where to debug..let me first try myself..thanks for giving your precious time .. :)
[14:13] <tomreyn> rollappuser1: sure. ;-) feel free to post the output of the above command if you get stuck.
[15:04] <visone> howdy
[15:08] <edgy> Hi, How can I list fonts that are monospace and language is English. I tried fc-list :mono :lang=en but this doesn't list any font
[15:15] <tomreyn> ^ gone
[15:16] <hexhaxtron> I got many pictures taken with my Smartphone. Is there a tool that shows the location of a picture in Google Maps?
[15:22] <conjo> hello all im having trouble running stremio i have ubuntu 18.10 installed can anyone help me it doesnt open when i open the app
[15:25] <tomreyn> !info stremio
[15:25] <tomreyn> !find stremio
[15:25] <tomreyn> conjo: i guess this isnt an ubuntu package
[15:26] <conjo> found in the software center
[15:26] <qwebirc95665> Hello, how can i masscrop some images in a gui way?
[15:27] <conjo> sorry i didnt found .deb installer
[15:28] <conjo> it runs on other versions of ubuntu
[15:30] <ioria> conjo, you found where ?
[15:31] <tomreyn> https://snapcraft.io/search?q=streamio
[15:32] <tomreyn> i mean https://snapcraft.io/search?q=stremio - both urls report no findings.
[15:32] <ioria> conjo, this seems to open https://www.smarthomebeginner.com/install-stremio-on-linux-windows-and-mac/
[15:32] <tomreyn> so you shouldnt get to see it in software center
[15:37] <KingKeA> Would anyone be able to assist with samba shares? I'm trying to use webmin and setting up the share appears to go OK, but when I try to access it from windows it never accepts the credentials.
[15:37] <KingKeA> I'm using the same credentials (pass) as the user the share is for.
[15:39] <ioria> !webmin
[15:40] <KingKeA> ah okay.
[15:40] <KingKeA> maybe I just need to find some guides on configuring the conf file then?
[15:40] <ioria> KingKeA, a quick way is with  system-config-samba
[15:42] <KingKeA> installing now... although I am unfamiliar with it.
[15:42] <ioria> KingKeA, it's very intuitive
[15:42] <KingKeA> Oh, it's for use with a gui? I don't have one installed on this system to save on resources.
[15:42] <ioria> KingKeA, so you need to edit smb.conf
[15:43] <KingKeA> can I install and access gui without rebooting?
[15:44] <ioria> KingKeA, what ?
[15:44] <KingKeA> a de.
[15:45] <conjo> https://dl.strem.io/linux/v4.4.25/stremio_4.4.25-1_amd64.deb
[15:46] <conjo> found the .deb file on the stremio website
[15:46] <ioria> KingKeA, you don't have a gui, you want  to install one and you want to know if you can use it without rebooting ?
[15:46] <KingKeA> yes
[15:47] <ioria> KingKeA, probably yes (just a logout/in), but you might need a reboot , so i can't garantee
[15:48] <ioria> conjo, an appImage
[15:49] <ioria> conjo, sorry,ot for you
[15:51] <conjo> thanks all am working on it
[15:52] <conjo> i dont think its an image cus i cant see it anywhere and have experience starting app images i see none downloaded,just a .deb that came from stremios website
[15:52] <conjo> now when i type stremio into the activities bar stremio icon shows up and it starts but then closes
[15:53] <conjo> am compiling from source atm see how that goes
[15:53] <tomreyn> conjo: we only support software in ubuntu.
[15:53] <tomreyn> conjo: consider using a supported software, then we can help, or find help with this software elsewhere.
[15:53] <ioria> conjo, already posted you a solution
[16:03] <conjo> tomreyn, ioria can you help me install a dependencie please its called qml quick webengine
[16:03] <conjo> ioria, what was your solution
[16:04] <conjo> the guide
[16:08] <ioria> conjo, let's go pvt
[16:42] <TJ-> What causes /usr/bin/time to display different output when it is run as UID 0 than for other UIDs? I cannot see it reading a configuration file and not spotted anything in the man-page about it
[16:48] <eelstrebor> i keep getting a popup on just one of my pc's saying that there are software updates when there aren't any - reboot and apt update doesn't fix the problem
[16:48] <ioria> TJ-, well, idk, but time is both a binary and a  a shell keyword
[16:49] <TJ-> ioria: that's why I wrote /usr/bin/time :)
[16:49] <ioria> ah, ok ...
[16:50] <TJ-> ioria: I was trying to do some sudo calls and it uses a different format, had to use "-p" to get the same as in user mode
[16:50] <TJ-> It must be internal to the tool rather than some config
[16:52] <hsiktas> hi, is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_(Unix_utility) available in the Ubuntu repos? unfortunately, it is not a search-friendly name :)
[16:52] <OerHeks> eelstrebor, so what gives you the message updates available? there has not been an update for weeks
[16:53] <eelstrebor> it's an unusual box that seems to be linked to the software manager
[16:53] <TJ-> hsiktas: No, it's a BSD tool
[16:54] <hsiktas> alright, thx
[16:54] <TJ-> !info cu | hsiktas the alternative is
[16:55] <OerHeks> minicom is available too
[16:55] <OerHeks> eelstrebor, if that happens again, screenshot?
[16:56] <eelstrebor> i tried to do a screen shot but that didn't work - if it pops up again i'll try to do a screen shot again
[16:57] <hsiktas> TJ-: the Bugs entry in `cu`'s man page is surprisingly honest ^^ https://linux.die.net/man/1/cu
[16:57] <TJ-> eelstrebor: check "/var/lib/update-notifier/" - likely the trigger file isn't being updated
[16:59] <eelstrebor> what's a trigger file?
[17:00] <TJ-> eelstrebor: possible the updates-available file being a non-zero size
[17:01] <eelstrebor> looks like it's 64 bytes but there's nothing in the file
[17:02] <eelstrebor> well, it shows 0 packages can be updated and 0 updates are security.... in the file
[17:03] <TJ-> eelstrebor: I'm not sure how that is used, maybe that doesn't affect the GUI
[17:08] <TJ-> eelstrebor: the README in the source package says:
[17:08] <TJ-> It uses GIO to monitor /var/lib/apt/lists/* and
[17:08] <TJ-> /var/lib/update-notifier/dpkg-run-stamp. If they change it updates
[17:08] <TJ-> it's status.
[17:13] <algid> anyone familiar with gnome classic panel autohide not working?
[17:17] <eelstrebor> TJ-, looks like the issue has something to do with qtox which comes from github - had to get qtox with 'flathub'? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/ndW8sGV8SX/
[17:19] <OerHeks> ah, flatpack updates
[17:23] <dviola> hi
[17:23] <dviola> will 18.04.2 come with a new kernel?
[17:23] <dviola> kernel 4.18 right?
[17:26] <tomreyn> dviola: the general availability kernel version remains unchanged (at least for the major and minor version, x.yy) - this is not directly related to ubuntu point releases.
[17:26] <OerHeks> dviola, i find no info about the kernel , you can enable HWE once 18.04.2 has been released
[17:26] <tomreyn> !hwe | but there is this
[17:27] <dviola> thanks
[17:28] <tomreyn> dviola: HWE kernels are already available in 18.04. if you'd install linux-virtual-hwe-18.04 now you'd get a 4.18 kernel.
[17:29] <dviola> that's good to know, thanks
[17:29] <eelstrebor> i install the latest stable mainline kernel releases and haven't had any issues with them currently running 4.19.13-041913-generic on 18.04.1
[17:30] <OerHeks> carefull with mainline, no kernel updates
[17:30] <dviola> I've been having some stability issues with 4.15 on a ryzen 5 2400G computer
[17:30] <dviola> I need newer kernel
[17:30] <eelstrebor> https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[17:30] <CharlieGrant> I'm trying to open 3 tilda instances on startup. Can somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong here https://hastebin.com/vaxesoyuha.makefile
[17:31] <tomreyn> dviola: yes, you should run hwe with this hardware
[17:31] <dviola> I had to disable the monitor from turning off because it just freezes with 4.15
[17:31] <dviola> tomreyn: ok, I'll try that
[17:32]  * eelstrebor latest firmware git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git
[17:37] <gambl0r3> if i do command 'which heorku' it says heroku command not found
[17:38] <gambl0r3> but if do sudo which heroku, i get '/snap/bin/heroku'
[17:38] <gambl0r3> what does this mean?
[17:39] <TJ-> gambl0r3: that /snap/bin/ is not on the user's PATH
[17:40] <gambl0r3> how do i set it up?
[17:42] <OerHeks> here it works, which <installed snap like gnome-calculator>
[17:42] <OerHeks> nothing added to %path%
[17:44] <CharlieGrant> when I add 3 instances to gnome-session-properties one of them gets removed. But 2 works fine. Is there a way to add a third somehow?
[18:05] <waheedi> how can i use route-data or routes inside network manager ipv4 configs
[18:07] <Rumen> Hello
[18:08] <Rumen> guys I have a strange problem I have 2 similar wifi dongles both Ralink mt7601u the one I have is very old and start making problems  gives errors like this https://photos.app.goo.gl/vQvFrLcRTAjCRKG2A
[18:09] <Rumen> the other one I bought is the same, but when I chage the I see it with LSUSB, but the new one doesn't start - doesn't make connection
[18:09] <Rumen> Any idea what is the problem and how to fix it?
[18:09] <Rumen>  They both use one and the same driver as they are one and the same as devices.
[18:10] <Rumen>  https://pastebin.com/CzLz9Vv7   Both are the same  Bus 001 Device 017: ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. MT7601U Wireless Adapter
[18:11] <waheedi> why did you buy the same device :)
[18:13] <ioria> Rumen, a bit old, but should work : https://askubuntu.com/questions/457061/ralink-mt7601u-148f7601-wi-fi-adapter-installation
[18:21] <kantlivelong> cannot for the life of me figure out why i can access samba shares from windows w/ kerberos OR NTLM but cant access from a linux box
[18:27] <Rumen> waheedi: because I use the old one 3 years without any problem!!!
[18:28] <Rumen> ioria: Thanks a lot I will give it a try
[18:28] <ioria> Rumen, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1716301
[18:33] <OerHeks> Rumen, instead asking about the old adapter, try to fix the new one? plug the new one in, and reboot. your driver has worked for 3 years..
[18:44] <dviola> what is the difference with linux-virtual-hwe-18.04 and linux-virtual-hwe-18.04-edge?
[18:53] <OerHeks> edge usually points to early versions, or proposed , explained here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack#hwe-16.04
[18:53] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack#hwe-16.04-edge
[18:56] <dviola> thanks
[18:59] <dviola> so -edge will just receive more updates? I don't fully get it
[19:01] <OerHeks> -edge is a testing/preview, not sure there will be more updates
[19:02] <hylian> just curious why ctrl alt f* does not pull up the corresponding tty in ubuntu 18.04 anymore./
[19:02] <OerHeks> if you choose stable and workable, drop -edge
[19:02] <dviola> ok thanks
[19:02] <dviola> do I need to update mesa as well? for a ryzen 5 2400G computer
[19:03] <dviola> I tried padoka and oibaf PPAs but I'm not too fond on adding PPAs to my system
[19:03] <dviola> will 18.04 update mesa packages in the future?
[19:04] <john5000> Question: gpg hangs forever when trying to generate a key (I obviously can't wiggle the mouse). I've tried copying and pasting the entire file directory to increase entropy... nothing :( any suggestions?
[19:04] <hylian> why can't i access the tty's through the old control alt f1-7 method anymore? i am runnign ubuntu 18.04
[19:05] <john5000> OH sorry - it's on a server I'm sshing into, hence no mouse wiggle
[19:05] <EriC^^> hylian: maybe your pc needs Fn+F2
[19:05] <EriC^^> +alt
[19:06] <hylian> EriC^^: i shouldnt need a fn button, this is not a laptop
[19:06] <EriC^^> ah ok, nevermind then
[19:07] <EriC^^> some keyboards have onboard services though, i've a keyboard that needs Fn cause it has features with the F keys
[19:08] <hylian> EriC^^: well if that's the case, i'm screwed because desktop keyboards do not have fn buttons. the fn button is for using function keys for mre than just function keys, ie.e. changing volume, lighting etc.
[19:08] <ioria> hylian, i have a fn key
[19:09] <hylian> ioria: on a desktop? my machine is not a laptop. i have seen a lot of desktop keyboards in my time, never have they had a fn button on them, never.
[19:09] <EriC^^> hylian: yeah i mean some keyboards might have it, if you dont then you dont, something else isnt right with your ubuntu
[19:09] <ioria> hylian, yep, very old keyboard (2002)
[19:10] <EriC^^> mine is new, it has some F keys that control volume and media stuff
[19:10] <hylian> ok, thats very weird, because i have never needed a fn key before, for one. 2, i am a it tech, have worked on dekstops since 1988, and never has there been even one desktop keyboard with a fn key ever that I have seen.
[19:11] <EriC^^> hylian: anyways maybe start by seeing if the terminal are being started and stuff and any configuration files
[19:12] <hylian> EriC^^:if i need a fn key, and i am 100% sure i don't, then why did they add it now? I have been able to get to tty through control alt f2, etc, cince 1999. why change this year? to an option that is not on most desktops. (desktop keyboards do not have a fn key by default).
[19:12] <EriC^^> if you wanted to be sure it's absolutely not a bad F key thing, you could try "sudo chvt 4" for instance
[19:12] <ioria> hylian, but i don't think fn is the issue
[19:12] <EriC^^> hylian: i dont mean you need an Fn key for it to work, i mean some keyboards have an Fn key and so you might need to press it, if yours doesnt then it doesn't, that's all :)
[19:13] <ioria> hylian, are you already logged when you try to open the console ?
[19:13] <hylian> EriC^^: ohh i see. yeah no fn key here, normal desktop keyboard, thanks.
[19:14] <hylian> ioria: yep. always works on other ubuntu based distros, i.e. xubuntu. just not on full bloat ubuntu
[19:15] <ioria> hylian, gdm at play
[19:15] <hylian> ioria: lol. i guess so.
[19:15] <EriC^^> what happens when you press ctrl+alt+f2
[19:15] <hylian> EriC^^: unfortunately, absolutely nothing.
[19:16] <EriC^^> hylian: try in a terminal "sudo chvt 2"
[19:17] <hylian> EriC^^: it did nothing but hang. had to control c to break it, lol. oh well. I have access to the terminal emulator, but i like tty for things like this app i am using now, irssi.
[19:18] <ioria> hylian, can you logout and try again ?
[19:18] <hylian> ohh guys, this is a known ubuntu bug lol, sorry for wasting your time.
[19:18] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1758512
[19:18] <hylian> yep, lol
[19:18] <hylian> i just found that myself. :)
[19:18] <JonnyGators> Finally....made it to the channel.
[19:18] <JonnyGators> Ok....how do I use linux?
[19:18] <ioria> hylian, logout and try again .  can you test this ?
[19:19] <hylian> ioria: i have already done that. still same error. great minds think alike, aye?
[19:19] <ioria> lol
[19:20] <ioria> hylian, you can try lightdm
[19:20] <hylian> JonnyGators: can you be way way way more specific?
[19:20] <hylian> ioria: i might just do that,.
[19:20] <JonnyGators> See, I'm confused....why do we have this purdy GUI that it boots to, when it seems everything I ever ask results in an answer about typing in a bunch of text that means nothing to me into a command prompt.
[19:21] <JonnyGators> But, more specifically, I want to install software.
[19:21] <JonnyGators> And I'm used to searching, going to a website, downloading an installer, running it, and having my program installed.
[19:21] <JonnyGators> But....that doesn't seem to be the way linux does things?
[19:28] <JonnyGators> So....anyone know how to install software on ubuntu?
[19:28] <Wulframn> I am on a Surface Pro 3 using Ubuntu 18.04. I am trying to cast my display to a Samsung TV with mirror screen. I have previously been able to do this with Windows. Most of the Google results I find mention using a Chromecast or Roku. Is that necessary for Ubuntu?
[19:28] <Wulframn> JonnyGators, what type of software? What are you trying to install?
[19:30] <JonnyGators> Well, I figured I'd start by getting some emulators on my laptop, so I searched for a good NES emulator with linux version, and web results say nestopia.  I go to the downloads page, and under windows there's a download link, and under linux are links for different linux ditros, but they link to the sites of those linux ditros, not installers.
[19:30] <JonnyGators> So, it's like.....what am I supposed to do?
[19:30] <ducasse> !software | JonnyGators
[19:30] <JonnyGators> Does linux not work like windows, in that you simply go to a website with installer, download it, run it, and get your software?
[19:32] <JonnyGators> So basically it's Windows: download, double click, click next a few times, done.  Linux: spend a week reseraching articles on how to install software, and maybe eventually you get to use your computer?
[19:33] <JonnyGators> Ok, apt-get....that is something people have told me to use in the past, but I've never understood how people know what a package name is.  Do you just know a package name, and if you type the right one, it automatically downloads it?
[19:33] <JonnyGators> I don't get this at all.
[19:34] <JonnyGators> How do you know what to install?
[19:34] <JonnyGators> I just want to go find something and run it.
[19:34] <JonnyGators> How does any of this work?
[19:35] <ducasse> JonnyGators: there are gui frontends, like gnome software
[19:36] <tangarora> Hi everybody, is there a way to use Gnome Boxes to access and manage vm's on a kvm machine using qemy or spice through ssh tunnel?
[19:36] <JonnyGators> Ok, lets start easy and specific.....how do I get nestopia on my laptop?
[19:37] <hylian> i logged out, then i was able to open tty's. logged back into gnome, then ran tty2 (control alt f2) and it worked but logged me out of gnome, LOL.
[19:37] <hylian> JonnyGators: what distro are you using, ubuntu 18.04?
[19:38] <JonnyGators> kubuntu 18.10
[19:38] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[19:38] <OnkelTem> My bluetooth controler doesn't work. It's pretty old desktop PC
[19:39] <hylian> JonnyGators: ok, well you can get it through synaptic, muon, possibly the software store, or by typping sudo apt-get install nestopia in a terminal.
[19:39] <OnkelTem> It worked before, but doesn't work since Ubuntu 17.10 or even earlier
[19:39] <OnkelTem> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 13d3:3304 IMC Networks Asus Integrated Bluetooth module [AR3011]
[19:39] <somogr> hello
[19:39] <OnkelTem> Any ideas how can I get something like that working?
[19:39] <JonnyGators> hylian: cool.  that's great.
[19:39] <somogr> is there any c++ developer please message me
[19:39] <somogr> i have 1 problem
[19:39] <OnkelTem> Basically Ubuntu doesn't identify it at all...
[19:40] <OerHeks> tangarora, ask your real question and find out?
[19:40] <OnkelTem> somogr: /j #programming
[19:40] <JonnyGators> hylian: what's synaptic and muon?  and how did you determine atp-get install nestopia would work?
[19:40] <hylian> OnkelTem: do you have bluez or blueman installed?
[19:41] <hylian> JonnyGators: apt-get works on all the 'buntus. and synaptic and muon are graphical managers for apt-get
[19:42] <OnkelTem> hylian: yeah, bluez is installed
[19:42] <JonnyGators> Right, but how do you know nestopia is a package that apt-get will find and install?
[19:42] <OnkelTem> hylian: not blueman. But bledevil is here - KDE
[19:42] <hylian> JonnyGators: i use apt-cache search nestopia. that told me if nestopia had an installation candidate available.
[19:43] <ducasse> JonnyGators: try 'apt search search-terms go here' to get package names
[19:43] <JonnyGators> cool
[19:44] <OerHeks> !info info nestopia
[19:44] <OerHeks> !info nestopia
[19:44] <JonnyGators> ok...I think I can work with this.
[19:45] <JonnyGators> Back to the laptop.
[19:46] <hylian> OnkelTem:bluez has a testing platform that may get you more info. i have not used it in some time, so i can't guide you through using it, but bluez-tests can help you solve errors.
[19:47] <hylian> JonnyGators: now you make me want to dig out the old nes and the games lol
[19:50] <JonnyGators> hylian: well, the best way to play nes games is on the original system.  Go for it.  I'll be streaming some power pad games tonight on twitch.tv/jgators.
[19:51] <JonnyGators> is there any way I can make windowskey-e open up some linux equivalent of a windows explorer?
[19:52] <hylian> JonnyGators: yes. you can set keyboard shortcuts in kde using the system tools. then make a entry with that combo, and then point it to your version of explorer with something like: wine /home/denny/explorer/explorer.exe
[19:53] <hylian> JonnyGators: my name is denny, of course you would want yours to reflect your home directory, not mine.
[19:53] <OerHeks> lolz wine?
[19:53] <hylian> !info wine
[19:54] <hylian> !info wine64
[19:55] <hylian> ok ubottu is on drugs. the wine64 app does exist.
[19:55] <OpenSorce> Ubuntu 16.04 live usb on a laptop/tablet. Has Android-x86 installed. Wifi works fine out of the box in Android-x86, lspci does not show any wifi device in Ubuntu. Any help?
[19:56] <ioria> !info wine32
[19:56] <hylian> ioria: yeah lol. ubottu is a little behind the times. wine64 - Windows API implementation - 64-bit binary loader
[19:57] <ioria> hylian, no clue
[19:57] <hylian> ioria: he's still a very useful bot, LOL.
[19:57] <ioria> absolutly
[20:00] <JonnyGators> ok, so I didn't quite figure that out, but I set windowskey e as a global keyboard shortcut to open dolphin.  I clicked apply.  However, nothing happens when pressing windows key - e.  Not sure why that isn't working.
[20:00] <hylian> OpenSorce: can you run sudo lshw > hardware, and share the text file it creates for you in your home directory called hardware via pastebin.com?
[20:01] <hylian> JonnyGators: did you press apply? kde is universally known for making you think you did somehting in the settings, just to have all your work go bye bye by not pressing the apply button.
[20:01] <OpenSorce> hylian, can't share it the device can't connect (tablet, no wired ethernet) I can tell you it says nothing about an ethernet device
[20:01] <toothe> hi all. When I try to do `sudo apt upgrade` I get a message that I might want to run apt --fix-broken install
[20:01] <toothe> I do that, and i get a usage message.
[20:01] <hylian> OpenSorce: it shouldnt, though right? we are not looking for ethernet, we are looking for wireless, right?
[20:02] <ioria> toothe, usage message ?
[20:02] <hylian> toothe: usage message? can you paste that here?
[20:02] <toothe> sure.
[20:02] <OerHeks> !paste
[20:03] <OerHeks> don't ask to paste here, the servers go bonkers
[20:03] <OpenSorce> hylian, one sec... just found my USB wifi device... I'll paste in a sec
[20:03] <toothe> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/W2PZhCrB87/
[20:03] <TJ-> toothe: you can use apt-get instead, as in "sudo apt-get --fix-broken install" or more succinctly "sudo apt-get -f install"
[20:03] <hylian> OerHeks: thanks for the heads up
[20:03] <toothe> what's wrong?
[20:03] <JonnyGators> Ok, set nestopia to full screen mode.  now have a black screen with no menu, nothing gets it to exit out.  Is there a linux command to go from full screen to window again?  In windows escape would do it normally.
[20:04] <toothe> TJ-: that is doing something, but...what's wrong?
[20:04] <hylian> JonnyGators: hmm, havent used that program in eons. alt-f4 will probably exit, otheriwse i an install here and see if i can duplicate the error
[20:05] <TJ-> toothe: which Ubuntu release are you using? "lsb_release -r"
[20:05] <JonnyGators> Yeah, I can close it by using the windows key to get the taskbar, and then right clicking the window....but then it opens to full screen again
[20:05] <JonnyGators> I can't seem to get the menu back
[20:06] <JonnyGators> maybe if I open the windows version, the menu will show me a shortcut to toggle between those modes.
[20:06] <toothe> TJ-: um...Linux Mint :/
[20:06]  * toothe ducks
[20:07]  * TJ- coughs
[20:07] <JonnyGators> Windows version lists alt-enter as the toggle for full screen.....not working for linux
[20:07] <toothe> I really like Cinammon!
[20:07] <OerHeks> both troubled packages are from universe repo, libxine2 and libjpeg64
[20:07] <TJ-> I really like pizza
[20:07] <toothe> you should eat it every day.
[20:07] <OerHeks> toothe, oh, mint has its own issues, join the mint channels for support
[20:07] <TJ-> toothe: I just /made it/ fresh from raw ingredients, but I didn't ask in #ubuntu for help :p
[20:07] <ioria> toothe, it's not even in the repos that eaglemode
[20:08] <OerHeks> LOLZ
[20:08] <toothe> nah, I get it - I figured this something in common with all debian variants, which appears to be the case.
[20:08] <hylian> JonnyGators: do you get anything right clicking in the app?
[20:08] <JonnyGators> uninstall reinstall gets me back to the same point
[20:08] <JonnyGators> Why doesn't uninstall completely uninstall?
[20:08] <JonnyGators> I want it GONE FOR GOOD
[20:08] <JonnyGators> so that a reinstall is like new
[20:08] <JonnyGators> ugh....OS's suck
[20:08] <JonnyGators> They never do what I really want
[20:08] <toothe> I would switch to Ubuntu stock, but I can't Cinammon to look just as I want it to be.
[20:09] <tangarora> OerHeks: in Gnome Boxes you can specify qemu:// or spice:// or vnc:// but that seems to be a security issue if you dont tunnel via ssh.
[20:09] <tangarora> that is my real questioin
[20:09] <TJ-> toothe: the 'apt' you used is not the one from Ubuntu; it looks like some kind of wrapper script
[20:09] <tangarora> so how do I tell Boxex to use these protocols through ssh?
[20:09] <TJ-> toothe: try "apt --version"
[20:10] <coz_> JonnyGators, generally it does remove everything, however you can check in home directory, .conf, and /use/share  and see what's left
[20:10] <coz_> jonrather in .config
[20:10] <toothe> TJ-: I get a usage statement.
[20:10] <toothe> ah, apt-get --version works. 1.6.6
[20:10] <hylian> JonnyGators: uninstall just removes the installed app from certain directories. the archives (.deb) files you needed to install the application are still there. sudo apt-get purge nestopia gets rid of everything. also, if nestopia doesn't want to work, i suggest trying fceux.
[20:11] <TJ-> toothe: right; I get (on 18.04) "apt 1.6.6 (amd64)" so it indicates I was correct that Mint has created an 'apt' wrapper script
[20:12] <OpenSorce> hylian, pastebin.com/q8BEsjez
[20:12] <TJ-> toothe: the output you showed looks nothing like that from the Ubuntu apt tool
[20:12] <JonnyGators> ok, did an apt-get purge and apt-get install for nestopia.....still getting full screen
[20:12] <JonnyGators> the purge didn't remove everything
[20:12] <ioria> toothe, sudo apt-get --fix-broken install     ?
[20:13] <OpenSorce> hylian, that wifi device it shows is the USB device I plugged in. It does not see the built in wifi
[20:13] <JonnyGators> How do I absolutely remove any trace of an install so that I can do a reinstall that is absolutely like new?
[20:14] <OerHeks> johnhmay, the config files in your /home/ are not deleted with purge, you need to do this manually
[20:14] <ioria> toothe, btw, you're messing up the all system for a zoomer ? :)
[20:14] <OerHeks> i think in ~/.config/ something
[20:15] <JonnyGators> Is that folder invisible?  I hate that....how do I make things never be invisible?
[20:16] <bprompt> JonnyGators:    check ~/.config and ~/.local/share    <--- nope, those are hidden directories, thus the "." in front
[20:16] <hylian> OpenSorce: i was just going to say, it says your wifi is working, lol. ok that is weird. so the wlx001d43800d7a is a usb dingle then... wow. I was hoping that would give us a rabbit hole to jump down, but we don't even have the rabbit there. what is the make and model of that machine?
[20:16] <JonnyGators> Ok, still don't know how to get to them.  Would prefer to set things to show me all hidden directories.
[20:16] <pmatulis> ctrl-h ?
[20:17] <TJ-> JonnyGators: If you're using a GUI file manager you can usually just type the path directly
[20:17] <JonnyGators> Things being hidden on my laptop are a hinderence, I want that "feature" gone
[20:17] <TJ-> JonnyGators: as in just start typing /home/<myusername>/.config/ and press Enter
[20:17] <hylian> JonnyGators: yeah, in any given ubuntu file manager, control h unhides and rehides hidden folders, as pmatulis said.
[20:17] <JonnyGators> Perfect!
[20:18] <JonnyGators> there was a hidden .nestopia right in home
[20:18] <OpenSorce> hylian, Nextbook Flexx 11 http://www.nextbookusa.com/productdetail/Nextbook-Flexx-11/
[20:19] <OpenSorce> hylian, I had fun shoving Android-x86 down it's Windows loving little throat. But I want to pout a more sane distro on it now.
[20:19] <JonnyGators> Hmmm....there's no keyboard shortcut listed next to fullscreen in the menu....odd, it seems the linux version of nestopia has a major flaw in going fullscreen without a menu without any obvious way to back out of it or even get to the menu.
[20:19] <JonnyGators> Weird.
[20:19] <TJ-> JonnyGators: does Esc key do it?
[20:20] <JonnyGators> Nope
[20:20] <JonnyGators> no key does it
[20:20] <JonnyGators> I tried every f key, tried every letter
[20:20] <JonnyGators> tried every alt-letter
[20:20] <JonnyGators> tried every ctrl-letter
[20:20] <TJ-> JonnyGators: that is ....^)&(%&!
[20:20] <JonnyGators> tried pretty much everything
[20:20] <JonnyGators> I'll have to google it
[20:20] <JonnyGators> anyways, I can't seem to get it to run any roms
[20:20] <JonnyGators> maybe it doesn't like that all my roms are zipped
[20:20] <JonnyGators> windows version can do that
[20:20] <JonnyGators> will have to try unzipping
[20:21] <TJ-> JonnyGators: strange how the docs say Alt+Enter is the sequence
[20:21] <JonnyGators> I will say, every attempt at linux makes me appreciate windows a bit more, lol....but I think I will stick with it on this old laptop for now.
[20:21] <JonnyGators> alt-enter works in windows
[20:21] <JonnyGators> and the menu in the windows version lists alt-enter
[20:21] <JonnyGators> but there is no keyboard shortcut listed in the menu on the linux version
[20:22] <coz_> JonnyGators, did you try F10 or F11 for full screen?
[20:22] <JonnyGators> so, I made a global keyboard shortcut of windowskey-e to open dolphin, but pressing windowskey-e does nothing....any way to troubleshoot that?
[20:22] <hylian> OpenSorce: interesting. if you run ifconfig -a, do you see both of the wifi cards there?
[20:22] <TJ-> JonnyGators: Ahhhh, looks like they forgot it :)
[20:22] <JonnyGators> I"m back to a window after deleting the settings folder, so I'll deal with full screen later
[20:23] <OpenSorce> hylian, nope. Just lo and the USB dongle
[20:24] <OpenSorce> hylian, Android-x86 has some limited linux CLI functions... I'm going to boot it back over to see if I can get the chipset or anything there...
[20:24] <coz_> F11 should be full screen
[20:24] <hylian> OpenSorce: wow... sorry man, i really dont know where to go from here. usually if it's a driver issue, it will show up there but not be usable. if it shows up, then we can hunt down specialized drivers for it. but it wont even show up. i am afraid this is above me paygrade. sorry.
[20:24] <hylian> OpenSorce: sounds good
[20:25] <OpenSorce> hylian, yeah I know. I was hoping Ubuntu had some sort of software switch or something that was doing it.
[20:26] <JonnyGators> Ok....so, it opens the rom and plays it, because I have sound....but the video is all black.
[20:26] <JonnyGators> No video from nestopia....weird
[20:26] <OpenSorce> hylian, this device is odd any. First machine I came across that insists on 32bit UEFI boot...
[20:26] <OpenSorce> *anyway
[20:26] <hylian> JonnyGators: that is weird. just curious, did you install fceux? does fceux have the same problem? (if you installed it, ofcourse)
[20:27] <JonnyGators> I didn't, but I can give that a try for troubleshooting purposes.
[20:27] <hylian> OpenSorce: i didnt even know there was a 32bit machine with uefi... wowza. i am learning a lot today.
[20:28] <ioria> usually a tablet or a transformer
[20:29] <OpenSorce> hylian, $100 at walmart. This machine was hard to pass up even if it is a little pain in the butt :-P
[20:29] <OpenSorce> Had to do all this to get Android-x86 installed on it: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/android-x86/-J0DIsDtauQ/KBiarvgeAwAJ;context-place=forum/android-x86
[20:29] <hylian> OpenSorce: starngely enough, i would love to boot something strangely odd like puppy on that and see what it says. sometimes all this spit and polish gets in the way.
[20:30] <hylian> OpenSorce: wow...
[20:30] <JonnyGators> fceux works
[20:31] <JonnyGators> Well....this is enough linux time for one day, gonna call it quits for now.
[20:31] <tatertots> OpenSorce: what operating system did the tablet ship from the manufacture with?
[20:31] <hylian> JonnyGators: then that is weird. that means it's not a graphics or a machine issue, it's a nestopia issue... strange
[20:31] <OpenSorce> tatertots, Windows 10
[20:33] <TJ-> OpenSorce: seeing the kernel log would be useful in order to determine what hardware buses the device has, and what hardware it can detect (even if it doesn't have drivers).
[20:34] <OpenSorce> TJ-, it almost HAS to have drivers since it works in Android-x86... almost
[20:35] <TJ-> OpenSorce: did you build Android for it or install a prebuilt binary?
[20:35] <OpenSorce> TJ-, pre-built Android-x86 7.1
[20:36] <IniGit> hi
[20:36] <TJ-> OpenSorce: so some non-mainline drivers may be included in that image
[20:36] <OpenSorce> TJ-, here's all I had to do to get the rest of it working: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/android-x86/-J0DIsDtauQ/KBiarvgeAwAJ;context-place=forum/android-x86
[20:36] <IniGit> Does somebody know why notifications do not work for thunderbird in Ubuntu 18.04? I have Notifications on in the Settings
[20:36] <OpenSorce> Oddly enough, the wifi just worked out of the box
[20:37] <JonnyGators> Thanks everyone for the help, appreciate it.
[20:38] <OpenSorce> TJ-, yeah I'm digging around to see what drivers are included
[20:41] <TJ-> OpenSorce: From what I'm reading the WiFi is Realtek RTL8723BS SDIO (SDIO is a SecureDigital I/O bus device) so not USB or PCI
[20:42] <TJ-> OpenSorce: and that isn't discoverable so likely at the minimum you have to load the kernel's sdio module in order to be able to probe the bus for devices
[20:43] <OpenSorce> TJ-, you're a friggin genius... I bet that's it. Why do they keep having to change the hardware interfaces? I was perfectly happy with ISA :-P
[20:44] <OpenSorce> Oh wait... did I just show my grey hair in here?
[20:44] <ioria> yes
[20:46] <TJ-> OpenSorce: SDIO is often used in low-cost devices, it is a variation on SDHC/XC storage media interface
[20:48] <OpenSorce> Thanks for your help folks, I'll hang around and let you know how it works out. Maybe write a howto if I get it going.
[20:50] <jasonwc> Has anyone here used a recent Coffeelake CPU with 18.10 (9600K, 9700K, 9900K)?
[20:51] <jasonwc> The boot process seems to have halted the system and I'm wondering if the 4.18 kernel is not new enough
[20:51] <TJ-> OpenSorce: it could be the https://github.com/hadess/rtl8723bs  which claims the driver is in the mainline staging tree but I cannot find it with that name so fare
[20:53] <TJ-> OpenSorce: Aha! It got a subtle name change, this may work for you: "sudo modprobe r8723bs"
[20:54] <TJ-> OpenSorce: if that almost works but not quite, the module has many optional parameters you may need to tinker with, see "modinfo r8723bs" for more info on them
[21:01] <OpenSorce> TJ-, again, you're right. That's the exact driver showing up in lsmod when it's running Android-x86!
[21:01] <bobdobbs> Hi all.  I bought myself a galaxy s9  (a phone running android) for christmas. Now I'm trying to put some music on it. If I connect it to my computer running ubuntu 18.04, I can see it in the file explorer and rhythmbox. But I can't transfer files to it using rhythmbox.
[21:01] <bobdobbs> When I drag and drop a track to it, I get the message "Error transfering track. Could not open resource for writing"
[21:02] <OpenSorce> I thought it was for the sound. I didn't look close enough. It links to the cfg80211 module
[21:03] <TJ-> OpenSorce: so if you test in Ubuntu, and the module isn't auto-loaded, try loading it. But whilst still in Android it might be worth recording the values of all parameters for the module with "for n in /sys/module/r8723bs/parameters/*; do echo $n=$(cat$n); done"
[21:04] <TJ-> OpenSorce: if the module works when manually loaded in GNU/Linux, you can add it to /etc/modules to ensure it gets loaded at boot-time
[21:04] <OpenSorce> TJ-, yep yep
[21:04] <TJ-> OpenSorce: and any non-standard options can be added in /etc/modprobe.d/r8723bs.conf with something like "options r8723bs option1=1 option2=2 ..."
[21:06] <TJ-> OpenSorce: slight typo in the script line above. "... echo $n=$(cat $n) ..." (space after 'cat')
[21:09] <Sven_vB> my bionic live session always halts to a grind after a few hours because the syslog eats up all my casper-rw persistence file. how can I make it rotate more often?
[21:10] <Sven_vB> *grinds to a halt
[21:11] <OerHeks> logrotate --force perhaps?
[21:11] <OerHeks> or find out why your live session fills it up ..
[21:13] <Sven_vB> it's flooded with an unimportant graphics driver error that has varying IDs in it so the syslog daemon doesn't consider it a repeat message.
[21:13] <Sven_vB> could I just set an ignore regexp?
[21:13] <TJ-> Sven_vB: that sounds .... annoying, care to show us a sample?
[21:14] <Sven_vB> TJ-, will do next time I have one. I deleted the previous syslog in an attempt to recover the session
[21:14] <TJ-> Sven_vB: "dmesg" may report some of them since it reads the kernel's ring-buffer
[21:15] <Sven_vB> I already shut down the session and there's no dmesg.log in /media/CASPER-RW/var/log
[21:15] <Sven_vB> also not in …/upper/…
[21:16] <OerHeks> xsession errors perhaps?
[21:16] <bobdobbs> I've also tried Banshee, but it doesn't even see the device
[21:17] <Sven_vB> found it in kern.log. TJ-, ubuntu kernel: [20370.395168] intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: failed to disable graphics turbo
[21:17] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, is the device unlocked from screensaver?
[21:17] <Rumen> Hi there
[21:18] <Sven_vB> TJ-, I think the varying part wasn't even an ID but that kernel timestamp, so a future syslog might even be smart about the repetition.
[21:18] <ddevault> can I get someone running a typical ubuntu install to show me the output of cat /proc/cmdline?
[21:18] <OerHeks> unlock, then attach usb and you should be able to transfer, not sure you need to enable usb debug something on android
[21:18] <TJ-> Sven_vB: which part varies? presumably only the timestamp (the [.....] at the start) ?
[21:18] <Rumen> folks anyone have idea where can I find driver RT61_Linux_STA_Drv  this is pci driver for Belkin wireless card
[21:19] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: it's a phone. If I don't fiddle with the screen then the screen goes to sleep. It is plugged in via USB.
[21:19] <OerHeks> ddevault, no, there is sensitive info in that
[21:19] <ddevault> not for most people there isn't
[21:19] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, see all linux/android manuals, the screen must be unlocked
[21:19] <ddevault> the UUID of your disks is the only thing that's likely to be unique to you
[21:19] <ddevault> censor it if you like
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[21:20] <mDonchev_> Hello Guys
[21:20] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: That's interesting (and inconvenient). I'll set the screen to stay unlocked and try again.
[21:21] <mDonchev_> Something happened to my 18.04 and it froze. After restarting the computer I cannot boot anymore. I just got a blank screen with the cursor blinking ...
[21:21] <mDonchev_> However that will be a good sign to try and install 16.04
[21:21] <mDonchev_> can you give me a torrent file to 16.04 (not 16.04.05 as it will not support my nvidia 304 motherboard videocard)
[21:22] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: ok, turns out that the screen can left unlocked for 10mins max without manual intervention. How does that effect file transfers?
[21:22] <ddevault> OerHeks: what sensitive information do you think is stored in a kernel command line?
[21:23] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: also, after restarting rhythmbox, and with the android device's screen unlocked, rhythmbox can no longer see the device
[21:23] <tomboy64> good evening
[21:25] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: the gnome file explorer can see it. When I click on it in the file explorer I get the message "unable to access Samsung Android. Unable to open mtp device"
[21:25] <tomboy64> i'm trying to install a desktop on a barebones server-environment on an arm64 board, but the standard-metapackages seem absent? (like lubuntu-desktop) i'm using 18.04.1, and my /etc/apt/source.list only contains "deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports bionic main"
[21:27] <bobdobbs> Looking at google for this error, it looks like it's been a recurring thing for users for many years. Is accessing android devices from ubuntu just too much of a pita for average users?
[21:27] <TJ-> ddevault: not typical but here's mine: "BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.20.0+ root=/dev/mapper/VG02-rootfs ro no_console_suspend acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2013" splash vt.handoff=7"
[21:27] <ddevault> thanks TJ-
[21:29] <TJ-> Sven_vB: There are some upcoming patches to systemd-journald to allow LogRateLimit... but no help to you right now. To prevent the files increasing you would need to add a filter to rsylogd config before the messages are written to file
[21:30] <Sven_vB> TJ-, thanks, I'll investigate that.
[21:36] <TJ-> Sven_vB: try this: echo ':msg,contains,"failed to disable graphics turbo" stop' | sudo tee /etc/rsyslog.d/05-drop-messages.conf
[21:36] <TJ-> Sven_vB: then "sudo systemctl restart rsyslog"
[21:37] <Sven_vB> TJ-, thanks, I'll prepare a file like that in casper-rw and report when I next start the live session.
[21:37] <cryptoape> bobdobbs: enable USB debugging and developer options
[21:41] <GOAtia> hi guys,could someone please help with error code ERROR 1698 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' when I run command mysql_secure_installation, I do not have root password and require mysql to run Kraft package
[21:44] <SlidingHorn> GOAtia: I would get this when I installed MySQL/MariahDB using tasksel.  I was able to fix the issue by undoing the tasksel LAMP installation and manually installing the parts (apache, mysql, php)
[21:44] <SlidingHorn> GOAtia: when you install MySQL/MariahDB manually, it will go through the setup process that appears to be skipped in tasksel where you actually set up the root password
[21:45] <bobdobbs> cryptoape: those options don't seem to be present on my device
[21:46] <cryptoape> bobdobbs: what device
[21:46] <cryptoape> GOAtia: https://support.rackspace.com/how-to/mysql-resetting-a-lost-mysql-root-password/
[21:46] <GOAtia> It did come to the point when it requested a password, when entering it access was denied and the root password was requested
[21:47] <bobdobbs> cryptoape: Samsung Galaxy S9
[21:53] <bobdobbs> cryptoape: google tells me that 'Developer Options' exists on this device. But it simply doesn't.
[21:53] <bobdobbs> maybe it got hidden in a recent android update or something
[21:54] <stevie> is it possible to get python3.5 in 18.04?
[21:55] <SlidingHorn> bobdobbs: you need to activate it - Go to settings > General > About Phone > Software Information > Tap "Build number" 7x
[21:55] <TJ-> bobdobbs: you know that on some devices you Developer Options are hidden until you tap 7 times on the build ID?
[21:55] <GOAtia> cryptoape I had tried the site you sent and cannot reset that password
[21:55] <GOAtia> goatia@goatia-desktop:~$ 2019-01-05T21:49:19.280905Z mysqld_safe Logging to syslog.
[21:55] <GOAtia> 2019-01-05T21:49:19.287383Z mysqld_safe Logging to '/var/log/mysql/error.log'.
[21:55] <GOAtia> 2019-01-05T21:49:19.295219Z mysqld_safe Directory '/var/run/mysqld' for UNIX socket file don't exists.
[21:55] <GOAtia> [1]+  Exit 1                  sudo mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables
[21:55] <GOAtia> goatia@goatia-desktop:~$ mysql -uroot
[21:56] <bobdobbs> SlidingHorn: I don't have 'General'. I do have 'General Management' but 'About Phone' isn't there.
[21:56] <bobdobbs> TJ-: I'll try that
[21:56] <SlidingHorn> GOAtia: please use a pastebin for multiple lines
[21:57] <GOAtia> sorry, I am new at hexchat was not aware
[21:57] <TJ-> GOAtia: are you using mysql or mariadb ?
[21:57] <SlidingHorn> bobdobbs: Ah, apparently the S9 is a little different - Settings > Device Information > Software Info > Build Number x7
[21:58] <SlidingHorn> GOAtia: Take a look at my messages above
[21:58] <bobdobbs> TJ-, SlidingHorn that worked! I now have 'Developer Options'. i've enabled USB Debugging
[21:58] <bobdobbs> so... what is my next step?
[21:59] <TJ-> bobdobbs: test if it makes any difference :) When connecting to the PC now the device should prompt you for what type of connection you want to permit
[21:59] <GOAtia> I am trying to run and setup Ununtu software "Kraft" which requires mysql, its an invoice quote package
[21:59] <SlidingHorn> bobdobbs: I don't have experience messing with ROMs, linux on phones, etc.  I was just getting you to the point where google was telling you about dev options
[21:59] <cryptoape> GOAtia: the error you got means mysql wasn't running
[22:00] <SlidingHorn> cryptoape: no, it doesn't
[22:00] <bobdobbs> k, I unplugged the USB from the ubuntu machine and re-plugged in it. In the File Explorer I still get the "unable to access..." error
[22:00] <TJ-> bobdobbs: is the device giving any kind of USb notification?
[22:00] <SlidingHorn> MySQL cannot request a password if it's not running.
[22:01] <bobdobbs> Still cant see the device in rhythmbox
[22:01] <bobdobbs> TJ-: no
[22:01] <GOAtia> I had to stop it, it was part of the reset sequence
[22:01] <TJ-> bobdobbs: have you tested using the command-line MTP tools?
[22:02] <cryptoape> GOAtia: so make sure mysql is running before doing that site it will work. I've done it
[22:02] <bobdobbs> TJ-: no I haven't
[22:02] <cryptoape> bobdobbs: what device
[22:02] <SlidingHorn> cryptoape: excuse my previous message - I was referring to their posts *previous* to the ones you were.  My bad
[22:03] <bobdobbs> cryptoape: Galaxy S9
[22:03] <bashfulshell> Haunted330: Why are you PMing me?
[22:04] <bobdobbs> TJ-: So I just tested 'mtp-connect'...
[22:04] <bobdobbs> https://hastebin.com/likexiyuru.pl
[22:04] <GOAtia> the first command on the site is sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop , that stops sql server
[22:05] <cryptoape> GOAtia: if that doesnt work try this https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techrepublic.com/google-amp/article/how-to-set-change-and-recover-a-mysql-root-password/
[22:06] <GOAtia> Maybe I should try uninstall it completely, reboot and try again
[22:08] <qwebirc95665> Hi, i try to flash rasberian on an SD-card, but my PC wont recognize the sdcard. Lsub says https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s9KCn96cCF/ what can i do?
[22:08] <Sushi-san> I installed Wine, but I can't get it to open (there is no shortcut to the program)
[22:08] <Sushi-san> What am I doing wrong?
[22:10] <qwebirc95665> @Sushi-san try PlayonLinux
[22:12] <Sushi-san> Will it still be able to run Microsoft Office?
[22:12] <SlidingHorn> Sushi-san: what are you trying to run in WINE?  (Also, be aware that there is #winehq for WINE support - That's not to say you can't possibly get assistance here though
[22:13] <Sushi-san> Microsoft Word, specifically
[22:13] <Sushi-san> There are a lot of limitations to the web-based version
[22:14] <OerHeks> check the wine HQ database
[22:14] <OerHeks> !wine
[22:14] <SlidingHorn> Sushi-san: 1) Any reason you can't try LibreOffice Writer instead?  2) As OerHeks points out, check the WineHQ AppDB for compatibility
[22:15] <Sushi-san> For better compatibility between my work computer and the Linux machine I built
[22:16] <OerHeks> good luck!
[22:16] <cryptoape> Sushi-san: maybe windows in a vm?
[22:17] <Sushi-san> Yes, I believe that will need to happen. On my previous Mac, I used VMWare to connect to the enterprise server.
[22:17] <bobdobbs> How can I tell where the android interoperability issue lies? I'd like to know if the issue is with the android device or with ubuntu
[22:17] <OerHeks> ms office on wine in WSL
[22:17] <Sushi-san> Fair enough
[22:17] <Roey{-> hi
[22:17] <Roey{-> I upgraded from Kubuntu 18.04 -> 18.10 and now I don't see any sound devices in pavucontrol!!
[22:17] <Roey{-> (aside from the speaker in my monitor)
[22:18] <dviola> Sushi-san: I heard WPS Office and SoftMaker Office have somewhat better compatibility with Microsoft Office formats
[22:19] <Sushi-san> Ah, good suggestions. Thank you!
[22:19] <cryptoape> GOAtia: please dont PM me without permission. It would seem like your mysql install isnt complete
[22:21] <TJ-> bobdobbs: I've tested it here. Initially when connected the device doesn't present MTP, but eventually the device has a notification option that shows "USB Charging" which when tapped I can change to "Transfer Files" (which is MTP) or "Transfer Photos (PTP)"
[22:21] <GOAtia> Sorry again :(
[22:21] <qwebirc95665> Hi, i try to flash rasberian on an SD-card, but my PC wont recognize the sdcard. Lsub says https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s9KCn96cCF/ what can i do?
[22:21] <gunarm_> was 18.04.1 server iso published with broken md5s?
[22:22] <bobdobbs> TJ-: is that an s9?
[22:22] <gunarm_> ubuntu-18.04.1.0-live-server-amd64.iso i downloaded, the md5 of the iso checks out.  But if I mount it (in windows) and md5sum -c md5sum.txt in gitbash I get checksum errors
[22:22] <gunarm_> like the iso passes checksum, but the files in the iso don't pass the checksums also in the iso
[22:22] <TJ-> bobdobbs: No, HTC, but it's Android 7.1.2
[22:24] <bobdobbs> This is pretty discouraging. I honestly thought putting music on this device would be easy. But it's even worse on mac: you have to buy a third-party tool for syncing or transfering music.
[22:24] <cryptoape> bobdobbs: on my note 9  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/G2ujTHPE/Screenshot_20190105-222634_Settings.jpg
[22:25] <cryptoape> bobdobbs: that should popup
[22:25] <TJ-> gunarm_: when doing the check, are you ensuring the PWD (present working directory) is the root of the ISO image when running "md5sum -c md5sum.txt" ?
[22:26] <gunarm_> TJ-: yeah most of the files are fine it's a couple specific files
[22:26] <bobdobbs> cryptoape: thanks. found it now on the S9. Looks like I've got MTP selected
[22:26] <gunarm_> the squashfs
[22:26] <gunarm_> filesystem.squashfs and filesystem.squashfs.gpg
[22:27] <gunarm_> just redownloaded the iso to try again, but with the first iso passing md5 not confident it will change anything
[22:27] <TJ-> gunarm_: that is weird
[22:27] <TJ-> gunarm_: slightly worrying too as they are the 2 critical files
[22:27] <gunarm_> well, yeah I have so far been able to get memtest, windows (with seti@home running for days), even debian running on this machine, but the ubuntu installer crashes
[22:28] <bobdobbs> So, is the issue related to MTP? Does it have patchy cross-device support or something?
[22:28] <gunarm_> though not just this one, also 18.4.1 desktop, and 18.4.10 server, whose checksums are passing
[22:28] <gunarm_> but 18.4.1 server is the one I actually want, this is probably a red herring, but nonsense anyway
[22:29] <TJ-> gunarm_: is it always the same files, regardless of which ISO it is, that fail? Is there a theme to the failures?
[22:29] <cryptoape> bobdobbs: https://github.com/snowdream/51-android
[22:31] <bobdobbs> cryptoape: what's this for exactly?
[22:31] <gunarm_> on 18.4.1 server, it's always .disk/info caspter/filesystem.squashfs and casper/filesystem.squashfs.gpg that fail even on the redownload of the iso I just did, which also passes checksum on the iso
[22:31] <TJ-> cryptoape: those shouldn't be needed, and are for USB debug/adb rather than MTP. libmtp installs it's own udev rules in /lib/udev/rules.d/69-libmtp.rules
[22:31] <gunarm_> as far as the installers of the other ones hanging, not sure if it's even related to this
[22:31] <bobdobbs> cryptoape: do I have to set up a development environment to transfer files to the device?
[22:31] <gunarm_> TJ-: ^
[22:32] <TJ-> gunarm_: it suggests a problem in the shell environment you're using
[22:32] <TJ-> bobdobbs: No, you don't
[22:32] <TJ-> bobdobbs: all you should need is the libmtp libraries
[22:32] <gunarm_> TJ-: yeah I thought of that, but I don't see this on the desktop iso ....
[22:33] <TJ-> gunarm_: can you loop-mount the filesystem.squashfs and access it via a chroot from that environment?
[22:33] <bobdobbs> TJ-: I think I already have the libmtp libraries installed
[22:34] <TJ-> bobdobbs: Yes, that was my point, since you've already seen them trying to talk to the device, which proves it was recognised as MTP
[22:34] <bobdobbs> k
[22:35] <TJ-> bobdobbs: there might just be a clue in the kernel log. Check end of "dmesg" after trying to connect to the device and getting the failure
[22:36] <bobdobbs> TJ-: here is the last part of the output of dmesg: https://hastebin.com/wopuhutawu.sql
[22:37] <TJ-> bobdobbs: let me check the device ID with libmtp
[22:38] <TJ-> bobdobbs: yes, there's a udev rule for that device:  ATTR{idVendor}=="04e8", ATTR{idProduct}=="6860", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="660", GROUP="audio", ENV{ID_MTP_DEVICE}="1", ENV{ID_MEDIA_PLAYER}="1"
[22:38] <gunarm_> TJ-: well, when I boot into the usb I make from this iso, I can run "Check Files" from the grub menu, and that also fails, which is what led me to trying to do this in my running win env to compare
[22:39] <gunarm_> oh also when I mount the usb in debian and run md5sum, same result.  those files are wrong on the usb, just like they're wrong in the iso, which passes md5.... I have no words for this haha
[22:40] <bobdobbs> TJ-: k, I'm just figuring out what udev rules are.
[22:40] <gunarm_> honestly, it seems like it HAS to be that they've published an iso with a bad md5sum.txt file, but otoh that *can't* be true or a million people would be complaining...
[22:40] <TJ-> gunarm_: I agree! I can't think of a rationale explanation either
[22:40] <TJ-> gunarm_: give me a link to the exact file you've got I can download and test
[22:41] <bobdobbs> TJ-: I axn figure what what udev is, but if my problem is typical (and google seems to suggest that it is) then this makes android devices for music simply unrealistic for average users.
[22:41] <TJ-> bobdobbs: 'udev' is the Userspace Device manager. It receives device 'events' from the kernel and does 'stuff' based on matching various attributes
[22:43] <TJ-> bobdobbs: so what I showed you above, it matches on a (USB) device with Vendor:Product 04e8:6860 and does several things: sets a sym-link, sets the mode of the device file, sets its group owner to 'audio', and sets 2 environment variables
[22:43] <bobdobbs> I see
[22:44] <TJ-> bobdobbs: so that is working, what seems to be failing is the actual communications with the device by libmtp.
[22:44] <bobdobbs> and this is supposed to happen automatically with rules sometimes specified by the usr?
[22:44] <bobdobbs> I see
[22:44] <TJ-> bobdobbs: that rule is 'triggered' when the device is attached (kernel sends an ACTION="add" event)
[22:46] <cryptoape> I've sometimes had use t by e above udev rules to fix connection issues
[22:46] <gunarm_> sure! http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04.1.0-live-server-amd64.iso is the iso with md5 starting with 18874 matching http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/MD5SUMS, inside the iso file casper/filesystem.squashfs md5s to 020c36* for me (opposed to 7f3a* in md5sum.txt)
[22:47] <gunarm_> for reference, file casper/installer.squashfs has 334d8 which matches md5sum.txt
[22:49] <bobdobbs> TJ-: so what is a good next step for debugging?
[22:52] <Wonny> Hello. Ubuntu recognizes I have an HDMI chord plugged in and it reflects the image of my screen onto the TV. It does not reflect the sound though. When I open up Sounds there is no profile for my TV. Any help?
[22:53] <Wonny> I tried using Pulse Audio as well to configure it, but it doesn't show up on Pulse Audio anymore.
[22:54] <sabrehagen> My disk usage shows as 93% available but processes fail to start citing no disk space. What's going on? https://i.imgur.com/pqsBLck.png
[22:56] <TJ-> gunarm_: fails here too!
[22:56] <gunarm_> lol what in the world
[22:56] <gunarm_> ok well I feel less crazy atleast
[22:57] <ikonia> sabrehagen: I gave you some pointers on this earlier, how did you get on
[22:58] <TJ-> gunarm_: better report this, join me in #ubuntu-hardened
[22:58] <Wonny> Any help for me?
[22:58] <sabrehagen> ikonia: client disconnected and I lost your chats. reading the logs now. thanks.
[22:58] <ikonia> sabrehagen: let me know if anything I said isn't clear,
[22:58] <ikonia> Wonny: not if no-one has responded to you yet
[22:59] <sabrehagen> ikonia: those filesystems are snap filesystems so they show 100% usage as they are read only
[22:59] <ikonia> sabrehagen: yeah, I know that, but they will also be a memory usage
[22:59] <ikonia> sabrehagen: they are loop back file systems ]
[22:59] <ikonia> sabrehagen: hence asking how much ram you have free
[23:00] <sabrehagen> I have 7.5/20GB RAM usage, and `lsof +L1 | sort -k7n` produces 11 files
[23:01] <ikonia> as sabrehagen so lots of ram, and certainly not running our of file descriptors
[23:01] <sabrehagen> Yup - confusing ;)
[23:01] <ikonia> sabrehagen: lots of reasons for this, its just a matter of working it through to find the right one
[23:01] <OerHeks> what does 'mount' give, ro ?
[23:01] <ikonia> sabrehagen: this is a dumb question but what is your current working director
[23:02] <sabrehagen> Fascinating - I have only ever hit this before when actually had no disk space
[23:02] <sabrehagen> in /rot
[23:02] <sabrehagen> */root
[23:02] <ikonia> sabrehagen: / or /root
[23:03] <ikonia> sabrehagen: can you do "touch test"
[23:05] <Sven_vB> TJ-, man rsyslog.conf doesn't have "stop", but it has "~" as the Discard action, so should I rather try that?
[23:06] <TJ-> Sven_vB: It does here, on 18.04, under the title "Discard"
[23:06] <Sven_vB> TJ-, indded, I had the wrong man page. thanks!
[23:06] <Sven_vB> TJ-, at least now I know it's version dependent :)
[23:07] <geirha> sabrehagen: Do you have PS0 set, or a DEBUG trap, in the current interactive bash session? ''declare -p PS0; trap -p DEBUG''
[23:07] <Crash1hd> OK I have a copy of ubuntu running that also has a windows partition when I run update-grub I get Found Windows Boot Manager on /dev/sda3@/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi but when I try to boot into windows I get error: no such device: and a uuid
[23:07] <TJ-> Sven_vB: being in the man-page doesn't guarantee it'll work though :p
[23:07] <sabrehagen> ikonia: OerHeks: apologies for the delay - spent 5 mins trying to copy text from my tmux session unsuccessfully. Best I could manage was a screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/mjhDAaT.png
[23:07] <ikonia> geirha: you woudln't get an out of space message on that woudl you ?
[23:08] <geirha> if it tries to write to a file somewhere it might
[23:08] <sabrehagen> geirha: I haven't explicitly set that, no
[23:08] <ikonia> sabrehagen: now do touch /tmp/test please
[23:08] <sabrehagen> ikonia: success
[23:08] <ikonia> geirha: ahh, I see what you're saying, sorry, I thought you where actually thinking the shell was erroring rather than the debug creating hte file
[23:10] <sabrehagen> Wnat I find interesting is the intermittent nature of the issue as seen in the original screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/pqsBLck.png
[23:10] <OerHeks> sabrehagen, what is this, a VPN ?
[23:10] <sabrehagen> If I run a command and it is successful now, it may be unsuccessful at a critical time
[23:10] <sabrehagen> OerHeks: yes
[23:10] <ikonia> sabrehagen: that's one of the reasons I was wondering if it was the memory
[23:10] <sabrehagen> 20GB ram 6 CPU, 100GB disk
[23:11] <sabrehagen> has only <10GB files on disk
[23:11] <ikonia> sabrehagen: this isn't an AWS machine is it by any chance (ec2)
[23:11] <sabrehagen> google compute
[23:12] <TJ-> sabrehagen: probably files that have been unlinked but a process still has them open so their space hasn't been freed. Try: "ls -l /proc/[1-9]*/fd/* | grep deleted"
[23:13] <sabrehagen> TJ-: only 8 files
[23:13] <ikonia> TJ-: now you have my interest an unlinked file wouldn't be intermittent though would it ?
[23:13] <ikonia> I can't see how
[23:14] <TJ-> ikonia: some process opening a file, unlinking it, then growing it
[23:14] <TJ-> ikonia: it's a common tactic by some processes to 'hide' their working files
[23:15] <ikonia> TJ-: but wouldn't that still be consistent ?
[23:15] <ikonia> ahhh working files
[23:15] <ikonia> right, so it's not longer in use,
[23:15] <ikonia> it is "used" just not at that moment, that's an interesting thought
[23:15] <TJ-> ikonia: think 'temporary' files so you won't catch it if the process isn't currently running
[23:16] <ikonia> TJ-: yeah, I'd missed the "in use" bit in my head
[23:16] <ikonia> or "working"
[23:16] <ikonia> so they would stil be in use just not "worked on" at that exact moment
[23:16] <TJ-> it may be possible to identifiy the culprit by correlating when this happens to what services/cron-jobs/etc. are operating at the same time
[23:17] <OerHeks> i see no uid 1000, maybe the cause ?
[23:17] <geirha> fairly certain df shows that unlinked space as used though
[23:17] <sabrehagen> I set 'fs.inotify.max_user_watches=1000000' >> /etc/sysctl.conf
[23:17] <sabrehagen> Should I increase the max open files on the server too?
[23:18] <ikonia> sabrehagen: nothing to suggest you're hitting nflocks
[23:19] <OERIAS> haunted330 say #ubuntu is closed on the weekends lol
[23:19] <ikonia> OERIAS: ?
[23:24] <TJ-> sabrehagen: hang on, this is a GCE?
[23:24] <sabrehagen> TJ-: yes
[23:24] <TJ-> sabrehagen: are you using it to build software?
[23:24] <sabrehagen> yes
[23:24] <TJ-> sabrehagen: aha! I bet its running out of mapped memory
[23:25] <sabrehagen> I would guess that is it
[23:25] <sabrehagen> :)
[23:25] <sabrehagen> How can I begin to investigate/rectify that?
[23:25] <adrian_1908> Hello. Is is just me or does the search on packages.ubuntu.com no longer work (well)?
[23:25] <babuloseo> yehhawww
[23:25] <sabrehagen> (all commands suggested so far have been outside my experience, so I'm in your hands!)
[23:26] <ryuo> babuloseo: small world, huh.
[23:26] <TJ-> sabrehagen: I'm thinking vm.max_map_count
[23:26] <babuloseo> ryuo: yep
[23:26] <babuloseo> lol
[23:26] <babuloseo> ryuo: I am eating chocalate lol
[23:26] <TJ-> sabrehagen: maybe this will help: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11683850/how-much-memory-could-vm-use#11685165
[23:35] <TJ-> sabrehagen: I'd have thought logs should have revealed this. Check 'journalctl -b'
[23:46] <sabrehagen> TJ- seems to be some symptoms there, but nothing too informative:: https://i.imgur.com/S24jkvA.png
[23:47] <SlidingHorn> adrian_1908: works fine for me
[23:49] <adrian_1908> SlidingHorn: bionic and cosmic too? E.g. https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=bionic&searchon=names&keywords=vim
[23:49] <SlidingHorn> adrian_1908: While it's probably not the "intended" way, click the "Some" link in "some packages...."
[23:50] <adrian_1908> Doesn't list vim as existing in anything but trusty and xenial for me. Same with other packages.
[23:57] <SlidingHorn> adrian_1908: interesting...didn't notice that.  For some reason I cannot find a link to the "web team" group to point you in a direction to possibly file a bug
[23:59] <adrian_1908> All good, already filed one. Might be a temporary thing (maintenance, moving databases) too.