[00:12] <OERIAS> ikonia, it's what he was spamming me
[00:31] <littlebit> hi people, I want to know if there is a way how to upgrade my old arduino ide to the latest version?
[00:32] <mDonchev_> guys, I'm with 16.04 now
[00:32] <mDonchev_> but I have problems installing PPAs from terminal
[00:33] <mDonchev_> no matter what I try I get some script errors
[00:33] <mDonchev_> why's that ? Should I "install" snap on 16.04 ?
[00:33] <mDonchev_> it looks like it is already there
[00:34] <Bashing-om> mDonchev_: Will help greatly to show the command and the result in a pastebin :)
[00:36] <OerHeks> snap find arduino
[00:37] <sabrehagen> ikonia: I have an interesting command run: https://i.imgur.com/X4P9GFN.png
[00:37] <OerHeks> always check if a ppa has candidates for your 16.04 version
[00:38] <sabrehagen> I tested copying a 500MB file on disk and there was no issue. Forking a process failed though.
[00:38] <sabrehagen> Does that mean the filesystem where /proc is mounted is full?
[00:40] <mDonchev_> https://pastebin.com/zDzuBMYN
[00:40] <tomreyn> tangarora: so why dont you tunnel through ssh?
[00:40] <OerHeks> mDonchev_, that was for littlebit
[00:41] <OerHeks> and the nc tool is running too quickly, as the find command needs some seektime
[00:41] <mDonchev_> OerHeks, its OK. It shows how snap gives me errors
[00:41] <mDonchev_> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/zDzuBMYN
[00:41] <OerHeks> LOLZ
[00:42] <OerHeks> just explained what you did wrong
[00:42] <OerHeks> try without | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:44] <mDonchev_> Bashing-om, am I missing something?
[00:45] <tomreyn> tangarora: you can either qemu+ssh (that's a supported URI scheme) to the CLI or you can use the spice protocol which actually supports TLS https://people.freedesktop.org/~teuf/spice-doc/html/ch02s08.html . or you can tunnel any of these protocols through SSH (manually, outside of the application logic).
[00:45] <OerHeks> mDonchev_, "but I have problems installing PPAs from terminal" , we would like to get a paste with your try? paste.ubuntu.com
[00:46] <Bashing-om> mDonchev_: Sorry - the find completes for me in 18.04 // but I have no snap experience to know if you have some issue or not .
[00:46] <mDonchev_> OerHeks: https://pastebin.com/zDzuBMYN
[00:47] <Wonny> How do I find out what my main screen is called? My PC starts with the screen rotated and I'm trying to write a script to rotate the screen, but I don't know what it is called.
[00:49] <OerHeks> mDonchev_, that command was not for you, anyway, try without | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:51] <mDonchev_> https://www.pastebin.com/rt2GjSun
[00:57] <OerHeks> this sign could well be caused by a proxy
[00:57] <mDonchev_> but I just installed 16.04
[00:57] <mDonchev_> is it somehow setup by default?
[00:57] <mDonchev_> if so ... how can I remove it
[00:57] <mDonchev_> ?
[00:58] <mDonchev_> also when I try to install something from flatpak, I get Can't load uri .... Unacceptable TLS certificate
[00:58] <mDonchev_> what does it mean?
[01:01] <mDonchev_> hm ... it seems I cannot install almost anything except the software on the normal preinstalled Ubuntu Software
[01:01] <Sven_vB> https://www.rsyslog.com/regex/ says my regep '\ intel ips [0-9a-zA-Z:.]+: failed to disable graphics turbo$' matches sample log line 'kernel: [ 2179.804017] intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: failed to disable graphics turbo', but my rule ':msg,regex,"\ intel ips [0-9a-zA-Z:.]+: failed to disable graphics turbo$" stop' doesn't work, while a relaxed 'contains' rule does match. What could be wrong?
[01:03] <mDonchev_> :( Anyone?
[01:04] <OerHeks> mDonchev_, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade # to see if it brings in a newer snapd
[01:05] <mDonchev_> nope, everything is up to date
[01:08] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: is this on a desktop computer?
[01:10] <Sven_vB> looks like rsyslogd can't repeat regexp parts with +, only with *.
[01:11] <mDonchev_> yes
[01:12] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: please show:  echo -e '^d' | openssl s_client -showcerts -connect api.snapcraft.io:443 | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:12] <mDonchev_> tomreyn, desktop one
[01:13] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: also: host api.snapcraft.io 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:13] <mDonchev_> https://termbin.com/yf0f
[01:14] <mDonchev_> https://termbin.com/y8dy
[01:15] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: is there any warning when you access https://api.snapcraft.io with firefox or chromium-bowser ?
[01:15] <OerHeks> TLSv1/SSLv3 is different than mine TLSv1.2
[01:16] <mDonchev_> nope - green lock icon and it says: snapcraft.io store API service - Copyright 2018 Canonical.
[01:17] <tomreyn> OerHeks: looks fine here, what differences do you see?
[01:18] <OerHeks> just the tls version
[01:19] <OerHeks>  but he has no updates at all, reinstalling ca-certs looks like not needed
[01:19] <OERIAS> HexChat is active 113 of 113 items. Double tap to activate.
[01:20] <tomreyn> OerHeks: so we saw "sudo apt(-get) update; apt(-cache) policy" output, already?
[01:20] <OerHeks> no
[01:21] <OerHeks> just another issue with flatpack too
[01:21] <mDonchev_> But is this how it's suppose to be?
[01:21] <mDonchev_> I just installed 16.04 and I cannot install software
[01:21] <mDonchev_> for some reason?
[01:21] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: please post the output of: pastebinit <( sudo apt-get update 2>&1; sudo apt-cache policy 2>&1; date -u )
[01:22] <tomreyn> OerHeks: here i see TLSv1.2, just like on https://termbin.com/yf0f
[01:23] <mDonchev_> https://pastebin.com/xdqBHKG7
[01:24] <OerHeks> mine, New, TLSv1.2, Cipher is ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 https://termbin.com/vot9
[01:24] <OerHeks> vs New, TLSv1/SSLv3
[01:24] <OerHeks> but lets wait for the update output, that could tell more
[01:28] <tomreyn> OerHeks: i think the "New, TLSv1.2" vs "New, TLSv1/SSLv3" (handshake) can be explained by 16.04 vs 18.04. we do see below that the session is actually based on TLSv1.2, though. so what we have is a certificate CAA issue reported by the snap CLI ("certificate signed by unknown authority") as well as for the flatpack CLI, but we can not reproduce this using a web browser on the same computer (though they may not check for CAA, yet), correct?
[01:28] <tomreyn> date/time are fine
[01:29] <tomreyn> i will try this on 16.04
[01:30] <conjo> hi all just wondering how long i should be waiting for a 1.8G iso to copy from my ssd to my cheap ass usb stick (2.0-if that)
[01:30] <conjo> my copies progress goes from zero to 1.6 and then hangs for up to 5 minutes to finish and for the little gui circle to go away
[01:31] <tomreyn> conjo: https://superuser.com/questions/317217/whats-the-maximum-typical-speed-possible-with-a-usb2-0-drive/995350
[01:31] <tomreyn> dont miss the 2nd answer
[01:32] <conjo> thank you
[01:32] <mDonchev_> guys, do you think there is a light in my tunnel?
[01:34] <OerHeks> mDonchev_, no idea what is crashing , i am looking in dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates or update-ca-certificates --fresh and other posts
[01:34] <conjo> tomreyn, legend thank you very much
[01:35] <mDonchev_> if it will be a hint, I just installed Corebird and when I click the button "Request PIN" to open Twitter so I can get a PIN I get a system message box: Unacceptable TLS certificate
[01:38] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: i'm trying to reproduce it on 16.04, give me a minute
[01:38] <mDonchev_> surething
[01:39] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: if you run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", does it want to install anything?
[01:40] <mDonchev_> nope
[01:41] <mDonchev_> just saying that there are several packages which are no longer needed
[01:41] <mDonchev_> and I can use sudo apt autoremove
[01:41] <mDonchev_> to remove them
[01:42] <tomreyn> ok, thanks. you can remove them if you like, doesn't matter to me
[01:42] <tomreyn> i had a lot of pending upgrade son my 16.04 vm, this is going to take a few more minuntes.
[01:43] <mDonchev_> sure
[01:43] <mDonchev_> no worries
[01:43] <mDonchev_> I cannot install a thing on that machine so I will wait
[01:43] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: apt does work though, right?
[01:45] <tomreyn> e.g. you can "sudo apt install apt-show-versions" without error?
[01:46] <mDonchev_> yep, just installed this tool.
[01:46] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: did you possibly play with "ca-certificates" the other day (if you dont know what this is it's ok)?
[01:47] <mDonchev_> i know what certificates are but I haven't played with this setup. It's been like 2 hours since I installed this 16.04
[01:47] <mDonchev_> and I tried to install nvidia drivers and some software
[01:47] <mDonchev_> when I get stuck with this problem
[01:47] <mDonchev_> haven't touched anything on the settings side
[01:48] <OerHeks> so there is no proxy issue ..
[01:48] <OerHeks> i am out of ideas
[01:48] <mDonchev_> but how come this is happening ?
[01:48] <mDonchev_> :(
[01:48] <mDonchev_> I just downloaded and isntalled 16.04 and was happy that I was able to isntall the nvidia.304 driver
[01:54] <tomreyn> md5sum /usr/bin/snap
[01:54] <tomreyn> 7bc1749b76555ea541734b02973b1051  /usr/bin/snap
[01:54] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: can you run this, too?
[01:54] <mDonchev_> ok
[01:55] <mDonchev_> d6938e79ac9c12e524ccad8de590b2c3  /usr/bin/snap
[01:56] <tomreyn> interesting, differnet binary.
[01:56] <tomreyn> dpkg -l snapd
[01:57] <tomreyn> reports 2.34.2 here
[01:57] <mDonchev_> version 2.35.5
[01:57] <mDonchev_> amd64
[01:58] <tomreyn> !info snapd xenial
[01:58] <OerHeks> proposed enabled
[01:58] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: how did you install yours?
[01:59] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/2.35.5
[01:59] <mDonchev_> i think it was already installed
[01:59] <mDonchev_> (not 100% sure)
[01:59] <mDonchev_> but I can remove and install it again if I have to
[02:00] <conjo> hola again is there a command from terminal i can run to find out speed of usb i have plugged into my pc
[02:00] <conjo> eg list 1.0 2.0 3.0 speed listings
[02:02] <tomreyn> so xenial-proposed has a newer ca-certificates and a newer snapd, too
[02:02] <mDonchev_> I believe mine is 16.04.1
[02:02] <mDonchev_> that's what I donwloaded and burned on the flash drive
[02:03] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: should be 16.04.5 by now, lsb_release -ds
[02:03] <mDonchev_> but someone told me here that if I isntall 16.04.5 it will have problems installing my nvidia.304 driver
[02:03] <mDonchev_> that's why i did install 16.04.1
[02:03] <OerHeks> if you did dist-upgrade, you would be on .5 now
[02:04] <dallasflatline> loving Xubuntu on my Thinkpad X230
[02:05] <mDonchev_> Yep
[02:05] <mDonchev_> 16.04.5 here
[02:05] <conjo> =(
[02:05] <conjo> fresh install?
[02:05] <conjo> backup?
[02:06] <mDonchev_> but it seems that its a general problem
[02:06] <conjo> k
[02:06] <conjo> run older version
[02:06] <mDonchev_> installing PPAs also don't work (similar reason - cannot find valid ppa information)
[02:06] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: i can't reproduce it here with 16.04.5 amd64 with proposed enabled, fully updated.
[02:06] <conjo> dont run dist upgrade
[02:07] <mDonchev_> conjo, why?
[02:07] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: can you show the ppa error, please
[02:07] <tomreyn> command you run + output it generated
[02:07] <tomreyn> (or action you did and error reported if GUI)
[02:07] <OerHeks> is this about the nvidia 304 driver for an onboard geforce 7025 ?
[02:08] <conjo> didnt ur card run on 16.04.1?
[02:08] <mDonchev_> https://pastebin.com9gE175up
[02:08] <mDonchev_> conjo, yes
[02:11] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: hmm, this, too, works without error here. i'm starting to think you may have foreign packages. can you please run this script and report its output? https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages
[02:15] <cryptodan_mobile> There is an SSL error maybe a bad install?
[02:15] <mDonchev_> https://pastebin.com/ZvL6eQWY
[02:15] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: can you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates" and while keeping selections, tell me what is showon on screen 1 (what is it set to?) and 2 (any missing checkboxes)?
[02:17] <mDonchev_> screen1: asking about installing new CA certificates that will be trusted and installed (YES), nnot be installed (NO), prompt for each new CA certificate (ASK)
[02:17] <mDonchev_> my YES answer is marked
[02:17] <mDonchev_> should I click ENTER on YES?
[02:18] <mDonchev_> (sorry for the caps)
[02:18] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: yes
[02:18] <mDonchev_> on second screen
[02:19] <tomreyn> !info cups xenial
[02:19] <mDonchev_> there is a huge list of certificates all starting with mozilla/
[02:19] <mDonchev_> but nothing is iselected
[02:19] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: are you saying nothiung is deselected / unticked?
[02:20] <mDonchev_> nothing is selected.
[02:20] <mDonchev_> empty checkboxes
[02:21] <cryptodan_mobile> Is system time correct and does https://navyfederal.org work
[02:21] <tomreyn> system time is fine, we checked this already
[02:21] <tomreyn> so i'm a bit puzzled there.
[02:22] <mDonchev_> should I make some checks
[02:22] <mDonchev_> ?
[02:22] <tomreyn> you have newer versions of some packages installed than i have
[02:22] <tomreyn> and ones which are "not in the archive"
[02:23] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: i
[02:23] <mDonchev_> should I have at least one certificate selected on that list? Should I activate some?
[02:24] <OerHeks>  or update-ca-certificates --fresh
[02:24] <OerHeks> but this proposed worries me, and flatpak
[02:24] <mDonchev_> OerHeks: 0 added, 0 removed; done.
[02:25] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: by default all certificates on the 2nd screen should be checked.
[02:25] <mDonchev_> does it matter that I'm in Bulgaria actually?
[02:25] <mDonchev_> tomreyn, let me check them no w...
[02:25] <OerHeks> no, your mirror is oke
[02:25] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: i'm falling asleep, unfortunately need to wrap it up here.
[02:26] <tomreyn> i suspect that you do not trust ny of the CAs installed.
[02:26] <mDonchev_> 148 added it said
[02:26] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: try "snap search arduino" again
[02:27] <mDonchev_> :( still the same
[02:27] <mDonchev_> but PPA seems to be working I think
[02:27] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: sudo snapctl restart; snap search arduino
[02:28] <Sven_vB> how can I check why kernel module intel_ips was loaded, and/or to which device in lspci it is related?
[02:28] <tomreyn> actually this wont work
[02:28] <mDonchev_> ok
[02:28] <mDonchev_> probably restarting the machine?
[02:29] <cryptodan_mobile> Is python-openssl installed
[02:29] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: sudo systemctl restart snapd; snap search arduin
[02:29] <tomreyn> mDonchev_: sudo systemctl restart snapd; snap search arduino
[02:29] <mDonchev_> it found it !!!!
[02:29] <mDonchev_> tomreyn :) It found it
[02:29] <mDonchev_> I guess I will be able to use snap now
[02:29] <mDonchev_> :)
[02:30] <mDonchev_> thanks a TON !
[02:30] <tomreyn> ok mDonchev_, looks like you or some other admin on this system chose to disable / distrust all CA root certificates.
[02:30] <tomreyn> good timing, i need sleep, ttyl
[02:30] <mDonchev_> ttyl :) same here
[02:41] <cfhowlett> !ping
[03:07] <guzzlefry> Is there a known issue in 16.04 related to complete lockups when unmounting a USB drive (possibly only an encrypted one)?
[03:28] <qwebirc95665> Hello, my pc wont recognize new usbsticks or the SD-card
[03:28] <qwebirc95665> what can i do
[03:28] <qwebirc95665> i tried Rebooting so far
[03:33] <guzzlefry> ah, think it's this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2406277 :/
[05:21] <cbpye> so what does one do when even 'sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall' fails to change anything?
[05:26] <cryptodan> cbpye: why not use Drivers in the System Admin menu option?
[05:28] <transfusion> I would probably find out which drivers are failing and try to install their packages individually
[05:33] <rory> cbpye: what driver are you wanting to install? ie what changes were you expecting?
[05:39] <cbpye> well, I was expecting a reboot to start using the new drivers I had installed (I noticed no error messages).  'lsmod | grep -i nvidia' shows no nvidia modules loaded, nvidia-settings is a blank window,
[05:40] <cbpye> ... and I just attempted a 'sudo apt-get purge *nvidia*' but was given an 'E: unable to find package nvidiasolution' in response.
[05:40] <cbpye> so that's quite unexpected.
[05:42] <cbpye> and indeed I'm unable to find any such package in the package manager.
[05:43] <cryptodan> cbpye: use driver manager and see why it errors
[05:43] <rory> do you have a GUI available? I didn't know about this ubuntu-drivers command but the Drivers gui has never failed me
[05:45] <cbpye> Sorry, I'm avoiding the use of a GUI because I'm using an ubuntu-derivative, and I want to keep it to stuff that's common across the *buntus (and that IRC channel is no-where near as active)
[05:46] <cryptodan> cbpye: Well its one way to check for errors
[05:50] <cbpye> very well then.  Driver Manager populates a list of several drivers, among them the default Nouveau display driver and the 415 metapackage which is recommended.
[05:51] <cbpye> Nouveau is selected by default.  I am now going to select 415 and Apply.
[05:53] <cbpye> ... at least, after I set up some konsole windows to tail -f some log files.
[05:55] <cbpye> .... and Driver Manager briefly cleared, and refreshed itself showing no change.  I'll pastebin some interesting log output if I find any.
[05:55] <cryptodan> cbpye: look lower on the window
[05:55] <cryptodan> it will say reboot to apply changes
[05:57] <cbpye> well, rebooting.  That was anti-climactic.  the syslog output showed absolutely nothing aside from a START followed by an END, and the apt log likewise didn't even change.
[05:59] <cryptodan> cbpye: as seen here https://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_years/2014_1/netrunner-driver-manager-nvidia-offer.jpg on the very bottom
[06:02] <cbpye> ... is that KDE4?
[06:03] <cryptodan> i wouldnt know I just found that to show you where it would say reboot to complete the changes
[06:05] <cbpye> cryptodan: well, it might be a moot point.  My reboot has yet to complete.
[06:06] <cbpye> actually getting kinda worried.  Screen powered off shortly after I typed "rebooting" and the system has yet to cycle.
[06:06] <capella> Ubuntu filenames in shell such as |ls| now seem to wrap in quotes (?)
[06:06] <capella> Or have I been blind all along :p
[06:07] <cryptodan> what distro you running
[06:08] <capella> 18.04 ubuntu
[06:08] <cryptodan> capella: then no I wouldnt think so
[06:08] <cbpye> cryptodan: Kubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, fresh install.
[06:10] <capella> closed term reopened ... quotes gone .... i've seen that before ... something I'm corrupting   :-/
[06:13] <cryptodan> cbpye: has it completed?
[06:13] <clitlicker> hello
[06:14] <cbpye> cryptodan:  looks like the reboot finally completed.  No noticeable errors, but I'm still stuck at 1024x768
[06:14] <clitlicker> i like sex
[06:15] <cbpye> cryptodan: looks like no nvidia modules have loaded, either.
[06:15] <cryptodan> cbpye: okay open up nvidia-settings
[06:15] <cryptodan> cbpye: do you have secure boot on
[06:15] <cbpye> oh ffs
[06:15] <cbpye> cryptodan: I don't think I do.  let me check my UEFI.
[06:16] <cbpye> I know I'm booting UEFI-mode, but I could have sworn I disabled secure boot.
[06:16] <cbpye> if it matters: I could not run the installer without editing the grub line to add
[06:16] <cbpye> 'nouveau.modeset=0'
[06:17] <cryptodan> i just did the compatibility mode for mint 18.3 and it worked for me.  but you may need to remove that line if its still there in the grub file
[06:19] <cbpye> I had to do the same after installation, and then added a blacklist conf file for nouveau, updated initramfs, and rebooted.  I can at least get to my 1024x768 session, but I need me a more-slick resolution.
[06:20] <cryptodan> secure boot on prevents nvidia from loading
[06:20] <cbpye> also, the nvidia-settings window is still absolutely blank.  It is featureless.  I can click Help or Quit, and that's it.
[06:20] <cryptodan> cbpye: likely secure boot is on
[06:23] <clitlicker> fuck
[06:23] <clitlicker> i like pussy
[06:24] <cbpye> how can I tell via command line?  biggest tell-tale sign that I have is that there is a 'SecureBoot-lotsofnumbers' file in the /sys/firmware/efi/efivars directory.
[06:24] <cbpye> mwsb: *highfive*
[06:27] <cbpye> cryptodan: the SecureBoot section of my UEFI says that SecureBoot state is set to Disabled (and OS Type is set to Other OS)
[06:27] <cryptodan> cbpye: look at dmesg
[06:29] <cbpye> cryptodan: 'dmesg | grep Secure' reveals: 0.000000 secureboot: Secure boot could not be determined (mode 0)
[06:29] <cryptodan> cbpye: grep for nvidia
[06:30] <cbpye> cryptodan: nothing returned.
[06:31] <cbpye> going to try Driver Manager again.
[06:31] <cryptodan> cbpye: try "sudo apt install nvidia-drivers-415
[06:32] <cbpye> E: unable to locate package nvidia-drivers-415
[06:33] <cbpye> ah, there's no S in driver-415
[06:33] <cbpye> hmmm
[06:33] <cbpye> cryptodan: now it says that it's already installed.
[06:34] <cryptodan> apt reinstall nvidia-driver-415 then
[06:34] <cbpye> says that's not a valid option "reinstall"
[06:35] <cryptodan> weird it does for me
[06:36] <cbpye> I'm running apt 1.6.6
[06:36] <cbpye> what does apt -v give you?
[06:37] <cryptodan> same
[06:37] <cryptodan> cbpye: http://dpaste.com/0Y0H31S
[06:38] <cbpye> hmm
[06:38] <cbpye> cryptodan: I did a re-install of nvidia-driver-415 via package manager.  was over WAY too quickly.  checking log.
[06:40] <cbpye> cryptodan: no error messages in the apt logs.  weird.
[06:40] <cbpye> going to reboot the machine.
[06:42] <cbpye> I give up.  Going to try installing via the nvidia binary blob,
[06:43] <cbpye> this happened last time I installed kubuntu on this machine.
[06:47] <cbpye> cryptodan: well, that was a segfault.
[06:47] <cbpye> which was different!
[06:47] <cryptodan> try reinstalling kubuntu as it might have corrupted
[06:48] <cbpye> things like this make me miss Slackware, but I don't have time to maintain a Slackware install these days.
[06:49] <cryptodan> I use Mint 19.1 and it just works
[06:49] <cbpye> I'm trying to recall why I stopped using Mint in the first place.
[06:53] <cbpye> ah, that;s why.  No KDE version.
[06:54] <cryptodan> you can still get it
[06:55] <cryptodan> cbpye: http://dpaste.com/2QPQSNQ
[06:56] <cbpye> guess that's the target then.
[06:57] <cbpye> I'm going to try disabling EFI boot and see how installation goes.
[06:57] <cbpye> maybe that has something to do with it.
[06:58] <cryptodan> ive got two machines with UEFI running and both install nvidia-driver-415 fine
[10:11] <artie> why is it that I cannot change PS1 in .profile, or .bash_profile? my change gets overridden by the code in /etc/bash.bashrc, which from what I have gathered is only supposed to be run on interactive shells, but my experiment shows it runs always. this is a fresh 18.04 install.
[10:21] <tomreyn> artie: how do you tell what PS1 is set to in a non-interactive shell?
[10:24] <tomreyn> and have you considred editing ~/.bashrc?
[10:27] <artie> tomreyn: is a login shell, also considered an interactive shell? yes, both are interactive, but this is a matter of semantics. Is it correct to identify a login shell, as an interactive shell?
[10:28] <artie> my real question is why can I not set PS1 on ubuntu using any of the standard bash config files in $HOME.
[10:28] <artie> it always gets overridden
[10:29] <artie> tomreyn: .bashrc gets run every time you create a new bash shell... .bash_profile and .profile are one shot on login, which is what I want
[10:30] <artie> mhmm, works with .bashrc. is it considered a heresy to modify this variable in .profile? hm.
[10:31] <tomreyn> artie: an interactive shell is one where you have a prompt and enter commands
[10:32] <artie> tomreyn: is that your opinion, or do you have a source
[10:32] <tomreyn> this is my interpretation of the word "interactive"
[10:33] <tomreyn> from latin inter agere
[10:33] <artie> that was also mine
[10:33] <artie> until a few moments ago when i started questioning this
[10:33] <artie> so does .bashrc get run on a login shell too? let me check..
[10:34] <artie> it does not
[10:34] <tomreyn> # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
[10:34] <artie> non-login shell is the correct way to identify them then
[10:34] <artie> thanks for entertaining this
[10:35] <artie> what I gather is that the ubuntu devs don't care if: PS1="$ " /bin/bash works
[10:35] <artie> or don't think it should work.
[10:36] <tomreyn> so your questions are answered then?
[10:36] <artie> not quite, I would love to know if this is by design, or if there's a good reason for it.
[10:36] <artie> i feel like ubuntu is a big enough distro, that there must be a reason.
[10:36] <tomreyn> "this" being?
[10:37] <artie> why does: PS1="$ " /bin/bash not set PS1. PS1 is unconditionally set in /etc/bash.bashrc and cannot be changed without editing the user's personal .bashrc file.
[10:38] <artie> ok, technically it does wrap it in an if statement that detects something about sudo, but that code always gets hit for my use case.
[10:38] <tomreyn> if you run /bin/bash, you start a new bash process. bash reads ~/.bashrc when it starts, setting PS1.
[10:38] <tomreyn> that's completely logical
[10:39] <artie> I think when a user runs a command, he should be able to override any environment variable on the command line.
[10:39] <tomreyn> you do, until this command read ist configuration file
[10:39] <tomreyn> *reads its
[10:40] <artie> funny
[10:40] <artie> you do have a valid point
[10:40] <tomreyn> are you aware of any linux distro where this is handled differently?
[10:40] <artie> every one I have ever used, other than ubuntu.
[10:40] <artie> infact I think in earlier ubuntu versions, it didn't do this
[10:41] <tomreyn> i bet they just dont set PS1 in ~/.bashrc then
[10:52] <ph88> how do i restart the gui without shutting down the programs ?
[10:55] <lotuspsychje_> ph88: explain what you are trying to do please, volunteers can try to think along
[10:56] <ph88> restart the ubuntu gui like restarting explorer.exe in windows
[10:56] <tomreyn> ph88: which ubuntu release, which window manager
[10:56] <ph88> 18.10
[10:56] <ph88> stock
[10:56] <ph88> whatever comes by default
[10:56] <tomreyn> press alt-f2, type 'r', press enter
[10:57] <tomreyn> this replaces gnome shell
[11:00] <ph88> thank you :D
[12:33] <ErgoProxy> running on autopilot i deleted a ~100GB folder on my server by mistake, is there any coming back from that?
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | ErgoProxy sudo photorec
[12:34] <innerand> Hi! Who knows the name of the program that is started after login at the frist boot after a dist upgrade (16.04 -> 18.04)? It showed some changes of the desktop usage.
[12:35] <ErgoProxy> thanks lotuspsychje will give it a look
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> ErgoProxy: you can recover the data with photorec after the testdisk install
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> ErgoProxy: to speed up things, you can choose filetypes in photorec too
[12:36] <ErgoProxy> I can just run it direct in ssh?
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> innerand: is it gdm3 you need? can you explain a bit more of whats happening?
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> ErgoProxy: photorec runs from terminal, so that should work
[12:37] <ErgoProxy> just running it now *fingers crossed*
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> ErgoProxy: also save the recovered data on another HD right
[12:38] <ErgoProxy> only got one drive in the server and its only one partition T_T
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> ErgoProxy: hmm that might be a bad idea, recovering it to the same partition
[12:39] <innerand> lotuspsychje: I made a dist upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04. At the first login differences of the desktop usage were shown (I guess differences Unity / Gnome3). I would like to run it again on the next login so that it is shown to the actual user.
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> innerand: with the LTS upgrade from 16.04, unity comes along by default too, so its normal you have both gnome(worg-wayland) and unity at login window
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> innerand: do you want to automatic login?
[12:46] <innerand> No, I'd like to see the "What's new" introductin again.
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> innerand: the ubuntu welcome window?
[12:48] <tomreyn> innerand: probably: rm ~/.config/gnome-initial-setup-done
[12:55] <Industrial> Hi. I'm on Ubuntu. Can I get docker processes to run as my user, and not the root user?
[12:56] <ErgoProxy> "Warning: Do not store the recovered files on the source filesystem. Otherwise lost data may be overwritten and
[12:56] <ErgoProxy> definitively lost."
[12:56] <ErgoProxy> hmm
[12:56] <ErgoProxy> to do or not to do
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> ErgoProxy: not to
[12:56] <ErgoProxy> ah
[12:56] <ErgoProxy> alright
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> ErgoProxy: you need another media to recover to
[12:57] <ErgoProxy> yeah, seems the be the case
[12:57] <ErgoProxy> 'tis life
[12:57] <ErgoProxy> never the less, thank you for your support lotuspsychje
[12:57] <ErgoProxy> :)
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> you are welcome ErgoProxy hope you get all files back
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> Industrial: have you tryed the #docker channel, for deeper docker questions
[13:03] <nbusrone> Does any know how to manually backup whole keyring folder and remove unwanted keyring ? I tried with Y PPA Manager but it doesn't work , as it's not listed at Y ppa manager but on trusted.gpg.d
[13:05] <TJ-> nbusrone: you want to backup all the keys known to apt ?
[13:10] <nbusrone> TJ- : yeh as you mention create a separate /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/my-trusted.gp
[13:12] <TJ-> nbusrone: you can use "apt-key adv ..." to do various underlying gpg operations.
[13:12] <nbusrone> TJ- : it's hard to delete every 40 ppa. Maybe backup and restore ?
[13:13] <nbusrone> TJ- : I am using "apt-key del " but it only shows key was deleted
[13:16] <nbusrone> TJ- : Somehow , it's getting weird , using Y ppa manager only shows I have 18 ppa but using this command shows I still have over 80ls /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d | wc -l
[13:16] <TJ-> nbusrone: if the PPA keys are correctly installed they are simply one-key-per-file in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ so removing the file is all you need to do
[13:16] <TJ-> nbusrone: you can check what the default keyring contains with " gpg2 --list-keys --no-default-keyring --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg "
[13:17] <TJ-> nbusrone: I presume you're trying to fix the issue of too many keys we identified yesterday?
[13:18] <nbusrone> TJ- : yeh , fixing by removing 80 keys.I doubt most application with ppa still have updates on old Trusty build.Only a few know.
[13:21] <nbusrone> TJ- : default keyring https://pastebin.com/NqJR2DNC
[13:23] <TJ-> nbusrone: looks like Opera added to the default keyring
[13:23] <nbusrone> TJ- : weird, at y ppa manger doesn't have opera browser keyring while at trusted.gpg does.
[13:24] <nbusrone> TJ- : should I use this command "apt-key del 8492E35" ?
[13:24] <TJ-> nbusrone: if you wanted to combine all the key-files to one keyring you could do something like this: " for file in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/*.gpg; do sudo gpg2 --no-default-keyring --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/combined-keys.gpg --import $file ; done "
[13:28] <nbusrone> TJ- : I yet understanding how the keyring works and store.Just wanted to keep a few keyring for application updates like java webupd8 and a few.Maybe I just leave it and get fresh install a new 18.04.
[13:30] <nbusrone> TJ- : Would give up fixing , but what I dislike the most on fresh install is installing all application again from scrap.Browser etc.Is there an easy way or gui base which can backup all the application and migrate to 18.04
[13:31] <TJ-> nbusrone: Backup is up to the system administrator, but do-release-upgrade takes care of multi-release hops in upgrading
[13:37] <nbusrone> TJ- : I will read how it works at the end later on.Before that , I had a question on  grub.
[13:39] <nbusrone> If I plan to fresh install 18.04 on a different hard drive or to a ssd , how do I install independently solely for the drive ? I wanted to boot independently on the drive rather than single boot loader install on SSD.
[13:41] <nbusrone> TJ- : if it be done after installing then I will ask about it after doing the fresh install later on.
[13:47] <phoenix_firebrd> I need to repair a video file with mp4 format which got corrupt because my mobile ran out of space. Is there any application that can fix it on linux?
[13:48] <phoenix_firebrd> My best guess is that it is missing a header
[13:49] <tomreyn> ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -c copy output.mp4
[13:49] <phoenix_firebrd> tomreyn: tried it, but didnt work
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> phoenix_firebrd: can you still play the file?
[13:49] <tomreyn> ...according to https://superuser.com/questions/538829/repairing-corrupt-mp4
[13:49] <phoenix_firebrd> lotuspsychje: no
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> phoenix_firebrd: even with vlc?
[13:49] <phoenix_firebrd> tomreyn: I think I saw the same post
[13:49] <phoenix_firebrd> lotuspsychje: ya vlc and smplayer
[13:50] <phoenix_firebrd> tried even handbrake
[13:50] <phoenix_firebrd> I had known vlc playing files with corrupt index
[13:51] <phoenix_firebrd> but this its not playing
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> phoenix_firebrd: maybe a video editor like pitivi or shotcut might be worth a try
[13:51] <phoenix_firebrd> I check with okteta and I guess the header is missing
[13:51] <tomreyn> did you try untrunc?
[13:51] <phoenix_firebrd> let me try those
[13:51] <knstn> C reate a blk device with dd, format it with ext4, put the file on it, an run a fsck
[13:52] <phoenix_firebrd> i will try pitivi, shotcut and untrunc
[13:52] <tomreyn> knstn: how would this repair the file?
[13:52] <phoenix_firebrd> ya
[13:54] <knstn> oh noes, fsck works on fs level, not files... abort mission - over (at least i tried)
[13:54] <phoenix_firebrd> knstn: roger that
[13:56] <phoenix_firebrd> pitivi gives the following "gst-stream-error-quark: This file contains no playable streams. (9)"
[13:56] <phoenix_firebrd> pitivi not good
[13:56] <phoenix_firebrd> trying shotcut
[13:57] <phoenix_firebrd> lotuspsychje: is shotcut available in the repository?
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> phoenix_firebrd: as a snap
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> snap find shotcut
[13:57] <phoenix_firebrd> ok
[13:58] <phoenix_firebrd> lotuspsychje: seems shotcut is a security risk, cant install
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> what does it say
[14:00] <phoenix_firebrd> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/kuXPHzbR
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> phoenix_firebrd: try what tomreyn suggested first perhaps, untrunc
[14:00] <phoenix_firebrd> lotuspsychje: ok
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> phoenix_firebrd: ah, you need to add --classic to install shotcut
[14:02] <phoenix_firebrd> lotuspsychje: ya but that is allowing the app out of sandbox
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> phoenix_firebrd: if ts just for mp4 repair, you can purge it after if you like
[14:04] <knstn> Any chance to have better results if you convert it to other type, and try to work on that?
[14:04] <phoenix_firebrd> lotuspsychje: no it says the app will be able to modify system
[14:05] <phoenix_firebrd> tomreyn: I can't find untrunc in the repository or a snap
[14:06] <phoenix_firebrd> apt-file search can't find too
[14:06] <phoenix_firebrd> I will google now
[14:07] <phoenix_firebrd> tomreyn: https://github.com/ponchio/untrunc     that one?
[14:07] <tomreyn> phoenix_firebrd: yes
[14:09] <phoenix_firebrd> wow untrunc is qt, awesome
[14:26] <RonaldsMazitis> I have serious issue according to keyboardtester.com ubuntu is pressing key 9 itself
[14:27] <RonaldsMazitis> I have two keyboards now
[14:28] <RonaldsMazitis> for some time
[14:29] <tomreyn> maybe the keyboard or its cable is just broken. doesn't this happen when you attach the same keyboard to other systems?
[14:29] <RonaldsMazitis> I can't press 9 on numpad of the laptop
[14:29] <RonaldsMazitis> nothing happens
[14:29] <RonaldsMazitis> I can easily on USB keyboard
[14:30] <RonaldsMazitis> other keys seem to work
[14:31] <RonaldsMazitis> I think USB keyboard is ok, but something is wrong with laptops
[14:31] <tomreyn> first of all, find out whether it's a hardware or software issue. test on ubuntu, test on grub, test on bios, test on freedos.
[14:39] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:45] <Nexilva> Hello
[14:45] <Nexilva> How do you change wine's default audio to alsa only and not pulseaudio anymore
[14:46] <tieinv> #winehq
[15:02] <thyriaen> hihihi shibboleth
[15:02] <shibboleth> morning
[15:13] <acetakwas> Can any one recommend a tool that will show me network usage per application?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> acetakwas, netstat is one
[15:17] <tomreyn> !info nethogs
[15:27] <acetakwas> BluesKaj: Are these tools easy to use?
[15:30] <Kumool> acetakwas: nethogs is by far the easiest, someone recommended me etherape the other day which is... probably not what you're looking for
[15:30] <acetakwas> Kumool: Thanks. Are there GUI options?
[15:30] <Kumool> etherape is gui
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> acetakwas: if you like eyecandy, conky has also network monitor widgets
[15:37] <murthy> tomreyn: I tried untrunc, It is able to fix small files, but not the big ones. The corrupted video file that need fixing is about 4gb
[15:37] <murthy> tomreyn: It seems the max file size that android allows is 2gb or 4gb, mobile dependent
[15:38] <acetakwas> lotuspsychje: I use i3
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> murthy: weird vlc doesnt ask to rebuild the index, some movies it can try to play anyway if broken
[15:42] <murthy> lotuspsychje: ya feel the same, but that is the case
[15:42] <murthy> lotuspsychje: I think the header is completely missing
[15:43] <tomreyn> murthy: here's another, no idea how well it can work https://github.com/bookkojot/mp4fixer
[15:45] <murthy> tomreyn: I think its the same solution implemented in perl
[15:46] <murthy> tomreyn: "perl fixer.pl <good_file.mp4> <bad_file.mp4> <output_prefix>"
[15:46] <tomreyn> murthy: it is surely similar.
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> murthy: try this also: https://askubuntu.com/questions/915162/repairing-a-corrupt-mov
[15:47] <murthy> tomreyn: may be I have to give a matching video file for a good mp4 file for input, with almost same time i guess
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> acetakwas: apt-cache search network monitor, pick one :p
[15:51] <Intelo> how to launch an app on a specific time automtaically
[15:52] <acetakwas> lotuspsychje: :)
[15:52] <acetakwas> Kumool: Thanks.
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> !cron | Intelo start here
[15:53] <Intelo> lotuspsychje,  cron is for recuring
[15:55] <ioria> recuring ?
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> think he means returning
[15:55] <ioria> ok, returning what ? :þ
[15:56] <ioria> Intelo, may you're looking for 'at' command
[16:04] <Intelo> ioria, lotuspsychje  how can I run, at 1pm,  and kill, at 9am, ktorrent daily
[16:07] <tomreyn> using a cron job, i guess. will this break some of your download? maybe.
[16:07] <tomreyn> *downloadS
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: qbittorrent can be auto shutdown after downloads complete
[16:09] <TikityTik> what's the proper way of getting the bleeding edge update of a package from arch linux?
[16:10] <tomreyn> install arch linux
[16:10] <TikityTik> this is for my ubuntu server
[16:10] <TikityTik> config does't from tmux 2.8 to 2.1
[16:10] <TikityTik> doesn't work*
[16:10] <tomreyn> you dont install arch linux packages on ubuntu, you install ubuntu packages on ubuntu, or snaps.
[16:11] <TikityTik> is snaps the newest versions of packages?
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> TikityTik: snap tmux version is 2.7 if you like on ubuntu
[16:11] <heoa> How do you install RODBC in Ubuntu? I have tried to resolve this days, further info in https://askubuntu.com/questions/1107461/problem-with-rodbc-installation-in-ubuntu-with-r-3-5-1
[16:11] <TikityTik> alright i'll try that
[16:14] <TikityTik> lotuspsychje: says it's version 2.3 on my snap
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> TikityTik: there's also the tmux-non-dead  2.7
[16:16] <TikityTik> alright so why doesn't /usr/bin/tmux exist after snap install tmux-non-dead?
[16:18] <Intelo> lotuspsychje,  no, I need to start/stop on specific time
[16:19] <murthy> are passwords handled by the falkon browser or passwords are handled by qtwebengine that it uses?
[16:19] <ducasse> TikityTik: snaps are found in /snap, not /usr/bin
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> heoa: does apt give your errors of any kind?
[16:21] <murthy> lotuspsychje: I tried the vlc method and its not good
[16:21] <TikityTik> murthy: try mpv instead of vlc, what are you trying to do?
[16:21] <murthy> TikityTik: I am trying to repair a corrupt mp4 video file
[16:22] <TikityTik> murthy: you could try re-encoding the video with ffmpeg
[16:22] <murthy> TikityTik: tried that already, not good
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> murthy: you might wanna talk to the ffmpeg channel perhaps, they might know more then us
[16:23] <murthy> lotuspsychje: ok
[16:25] <TikityTik> what is snap? what's the point of using snap if it isn't even the most up to date version?
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> !latest | TikityTik
[16:26] <murthy> TikityTik: do you know how to choose a channel in snap, for that matter are you aware of the edge channel?
[16:26] <murthy> lotuspsychje: TikityTik is right
[16:27] <murthy> lotuspsychje: for snaps they should be upto the upstream stable
[16:29] <TikityTik> are you even able to list the channels available for the snap package?
[16:30] <murthy> TikityTik: https://docs.snapcraft.io/channels/551
[16:32] <TikityTik> seems like all channels for tmux is 2.3
[16:33] <ioria> TikityTik, also this : https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/basic-snap-usage#4
[16:51] <qwebirc73975> I have live session troubles on 16.04 . Space keeps running out. Using df tells me aufs ends up at 100% usage.
[16:54] <RonaldsMazitis> https://imgur.com/a/ZdRzs9D
[16:54] <RonaldsMazitis> page down and up is constantly firing up
[16:55] <RonaldsMazitis> when You put numlock on 9 starts firing
[16:55] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: you shouldn't use the live session on a regular basis. you can use a persistent usb install.
[16:58] <qwebirc73975> I plan on instaling but the instalation won't show partitions in a way I suspect is due to having 0 bytes avalible with which to launch gparted.
[17:03] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: can you show a screenshot? is there a reason you prefer installing 16.04 LTS over 18.04 LTS?
[17:04] <qwebirc73975> I have 0 bytes in which to store a screenshot. I have used 16.04 in the past.
[17:05] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: can you run this in a terminal: df | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:08] <qwebirc73975> Yes, what is that website?
[17:08] <qwebirc73975> Cool!
[17:09] <RonaldsMazitis> I have serious feeling somebody somehow hacked my stuff
[17:09] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: please paste the url which was printed on the terminal after you ran this command
[17:09] <RonaldsMazitis> and now is pressing keys or something
[17:09] <qwebirc73975> termbin.com/ax17
[17:09] <ovalseven8> Question: Ubuntu has deactivated "root" by default and prefers the "sudo"-concept. What's the advantage here? With sudo everyone can get root privileges whereas with root only root can get those.
[17:10] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: 'df' stands for "disk free". as you can see, you have free space available. you can store files in /tmp for example.
[17:10] <murthy> RonaldsMazitis: do you have another keyboard?
[17:10] <RonaldsMazitis> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6PXvyzKTf7/
[17:10] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: obvioudsly, since this is a live cd, those files wont persist after reboot
[17:10] <RonaldsMazitis> I have two keyboards
[17:11] <RonaldsMazitis> 192.168.1.5
[17:11] <RonaldsMazitis> what is this?
[17:11] <murthy> RonaldsMazitis: both are acting the same way
[17:11] <RonaldsMazitis> it's not keyboard that's pressing anything
[17:11] <ducasse> ovalseven8: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:12] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: have you tried cross testing with grub, bios, freedos, as i proposed earlier?
[17:12] <RonaldsMazitis> what are those ip adresses
[17:13] <RonaldsMazitis> why do You suggest freedows
[17:13] <RonaldsMazitis> freedos
[17:13] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: because it's a different operating system
[17:13] <RonaldsMazitis> I have question about UFW
[17:14] <RonaldsMazitis> why my UFW settings allow those two weird ip adresses
[17:14] <vlt> ovalseven8: “everyone can get root privileges” might not be very accurate ;)
[17:14] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: if you can verify that the keyboard behaves differently on a different OS then you have ruled out a hardware issue, which means we can spend time on diagnosing it
[17:15] <RonaldsMazitis> keyboard does nothing on itself
[17:15] <RonaldsMazitis> UFW
[17:15] <RonaldsMazitis> why are there those two ip adresses
[17:15] <RonaldsMazitis> ?
[17:15] <RonaldsMazitis> ?
[17:15] <murthy> RonaldsMazitis: why dont you close that port and see
[17:15] <ovalseven8> So in general it's recommended to let run programs/services with a user that is NOT in the sudoers file and log in to the server with a user that has sudo privileges?
[17:16] <qwebirc73975> The 0 bytes availible prevents me from launching programs outside of a brief period post booting where aufs has yet to reach 100%.
[17:16] <RonaldsMazitis> murthy: can those be somebody connecting to server?
[17:16] <murthy> RonaldsMazitis: sudo netstat -lnp
[17:16] <Biessie> I havent had my ubuntu server up in over 2 months. just turned it back on and it shows i have zero updates available. Before that i had updates literally daily.
[17:17] <Biessie> is there something that could be blocking updates for some reason?
[17:17] <murthy> RonaldsMazitis: run that command, it will output all the process that are listening, kill the process that uses that port
[17:17] <Biessie> 18.04.1 LTS
[17:19] <tomreyn> Biessie: there are several factors which could cause this. please run this: sudo /bin/true; pastebinit <( lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/version; cat /proc/cmdline; sudo apt-get update 2>&1; echo; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -f install 2>&1 ; )
[17:19] <tomreyn> Biessie: it should return a http address you can then post here
[17:20] <Biessie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jFFQjnd7Ms/
[17:21] <Biessie> unless it automatically updated at startup?
[17:23] <tomreyn> Biessie: that'S well possible. you are not running the latest kernel image,. but if this update took place then linux-image-4.15.0-43-generic should now be installed
[17:24] <Biessie> hmmm
[17:24] <tomreyn> Biessie: "dpkg -l linux-image-4.15.0-43-generic" should show ' ii ' then
[17:24] <tomreyn> Biessie: apt logs are at /var/log/apt/ in case you'd like to review what happened when
[17:25] <ovalseven8> So in general it's recommended to let run programs/services with a user that is NOT in the sudoers file and log in to the server with a user that has sudo privileges?
[17:26] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: you'Re right, it's bad that / ran full
[17:28] <tomreyn> ovalseven8: if you're referring to ubuntu server operation, yes.
[17:28] <tomreyn> ovalseven8: the user logging into the server remotely only needs sudo if they are to run processes as root, though.
[17:28] <Biessie> thank you tomreyn. so that means if the new kernel image is not installed then it did not update and something is blocking the updates?
[17:29] <tomreyn> Biessie: yes i would think so
[17:29] <Biessie> okay ill start doing some research on how to fix this. thanks!
[17:29] <tomreyn> Biessie: actually, this would only be so if you have automatic upgrades enabled
[17:30] <tomreyn> Biessie: if you don't then, you may need to run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:32] <ovalseven8> tomreyn, Thanks. So for doing administrative stuff on my server, I'll login with a sudo user and all the other stuff is run by users that are not in sudoers file. :)
[17:32] <Biessie> tomreyn : The auto upgrade is enabled last i checked and i tried the dist-upgrade command and still nothing. this is STRANGE
[17:32] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: can you tell us about your hardware? how much ram, which computer model?
[17:33] <tomreyn> ovalseven8: generally, that's a good approach.
[17:34] <tomreyn> Biessie: disk full?
[17:35] <tomreyn> Biessie: "df -h" will tell.
[17:35] <tomreyn> Biessie: also show the output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" if you like.
[17:35] <Biessie> 375gb available
[17:35] <tomreyn> where?
[17:36] <Biessie>  in /dev/sda6
[17:36] <tomreyn> how much is available on / ?
[17:36] <Apachez> anyone else who noticed that if you got 1 google chrome window and create a new one then in ubuntu 18.10 that will be behind the first, but if you create a 3rd window (ctrl+n) it will be ontop... it this a google chrome or a ubuntu "feature" and how do I change this behaviour?
[17:36] <Biessie> tomreyn  - /dev/sda6       454G   57G  374G  14% /
[17:37] <tomreyn> Biessie: okay, so it's not that. since you didnt actually tell: if the newer kernel image installed?
[17:38] <Biessie> uname -r = 4.15.0-36-generic
[17:38] <qwebirc73975> It is an ASUS model X556U(says on sticker). Rather recently it's hard drive ended up corrupted which is why I'm reinstaling Ubuntu and I'm hoping this issue is unrelated.
[17:39] <Biessie> oh dam.. that is the newest kernel, right?
[17:39] <tomreyn> Apachez: google chrome is not supported here. maybe try with chromium-browser,
[17:39] <ioria> Biessie, sudo apt full-upgrade   ?
[17:40] <Biessie> ioria : Shows no upgrades available
[17:40] <tomreyn> Biessie: no, it's not the newest,. but uname -r returns which kernel is running, not the latest that is installed. i asked which is the latest that is installed.
[17:40] <ioria> Biessie, what ubuntu release ?
[17:40] <Biessie> oh
[17:40] <Biessie> ioria : 18.04.1 LTS
[17:40] <ioria> Biessie, ls /boot | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:41] <Biessie> tomreyn : Sorry. how do i find the latest installed again?
[17:41] <Biessie> ioria : https://termbin.com/vrly
 Biessie: "dpkg -l linux-image-4.15.0-43-generic" should show ' ii ' then
[17:42] <tomreyn> Biessie: -43 is not installed
[17:42] <TJ-> Biessie: this will list installed kernels: "apt list --installed linux-image-*"
[17:43] <tomreyn> Biessie: so something Is wrong if "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" wont install anything. what does "df -h /" say?
[17:43] <ioria> Biessie, here  we have just 34 and 36 ; did you disable update or commented something in sources.list ?
[17:44] <Biessie> tomreyn : Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[17:44] <Biessie> tomreyn : Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[17:44] <Biessie>   /dev/sda6       454G   57G  374G  14% /
[17:45] <Biessie> ioria : No thats what is making me curious. Everything was working fine before.. i turned off my server 2 months ago and loaded it back up today wi th no updates available. before i shut it down it hadupdates DAILY
[17:45] <tomreyn> Biessie: sorry, i gave you the wrong command: please show the output of: df -h | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:46] <TJ-> Biessie: maybe apt sources.list points to a mirror that is not being updated
[17:46] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: i suspect that your disk is filling up with logs, possibly due to defective hardware or a driver issue.
[17:46] <ioria> Biessie,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:46] <Biessie> tomreyn : https://termbin.com/h9m6
[17:47] <Biessie> ioria : https://termbin.com/lruh
[17:47] <tomreyn> Biessie: hmm this looks fine, i'm a bit puzzled.
[17:48] <Biessie> tomreyn : Right? This is insane.
[17:48] <TJ-> Biessie: "ls -latr /var/lib/apt/lists/ | tail" --- tell us the date of the last file
[17:49] <ioria> Biessie,  bionic main is duplicated, i guess and ii see webmin installed
[17:49] <Biessie> TJ- Jan 6
[17:49] <qwebirc73975> I have tried rm -r /var/log before and it did not work. I would run sudo baobab but it doesn't tell whats wrong and it complains about the 0 bytes.
[17:50] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: does baobab start up, though?
[17:50] <qwebirc73975> Yes
[17:51] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: can you check how large /var is and which the largest files are in there?
[17:51] <Biessie> ioria : Webmin is installed. i used it for some SQL stuff. im not the most knowledgable with SQL so i added users through webmin lol
[17:51] <TJ-> Biessie: that's good then.
[17:51] <ioria> Biessie,  apt-cache policy linux-generic  | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:52] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: "rm -r /var/log" is bad, you shouldn't run this since it will remove the /var/log directory.
[17:53] <Biessie> ioria : https://termbin.com/bbj8
[17:53] <ioria> Biessie,  not good
[17:53] <Biessie> ioria : Uh oh!
[17:54] <tomreyn> Biessie: have you changed any proxy server or network configurations lately?
[17:54] <Biessie> tomreyn : I have not.
[17:54] <ioria> TJ-, you see this ? https://termbin.com/bbj8
[17:54] <qwebirc73975> No wait only "baobab" runs. I can have "sudo baobab" working but I have to run before aufs reachs 100%.
[17:55] <Biessie> have i been hacked? lol
[17:55] <TJ-> ioria: looks fine to me (duplicate repos doesn't matter - often happens with -security and -updates)
[17:55] <TJ-> ioria: but what is the problem here? if the package lists are up to date and no packages are due to upgrade then it's up to date - do we have evidence a package is behind the times?
[17:56] <ioria> TJ-,    sorry, talking about this ->   https://termbin.com/bbj8
[17:56] <TJ-> ioria: that's the same isn't it?
[17:57] <ioria> TJ-,  Biessie   should be like that : http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q6YKQxfzY8/
[17:57] <cbpye> cryptodan_mobile: about to try Mint XFCE.
[17:58] <ioria> TJ-,  or not ?
[17:59] <TJ-> ioria: I see now - kernel version ?
[17:59] <ioria> TJ-,  yeeeessss
[18:00] <ioria> Biessie, you did something with apt
[18:01] <Biessie> the only thing i can remember ever doing with apt is just updateing and upgradeing
[18:02] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: you can use "du -sh" on a terminal to get the size of a given directory in cluding subdirectories.
[18:02] <TJ-> Biessie: can you show us "sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:02] <ioria> Biessie, apt-cache policy | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:03] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: example: du -sh /var/log
[18:04] <Biessie> TJ-  : https://termbin.com/nk3v
[18:04] <tomreyn> ioria: i had Biessie do this before
[18:04] <ioria> tomreyn, uh, ok
[18:04] <Biessie> ioria  : https://termbin.com/saqx
[18:04] <tomreyn> TJ-: also ;)
[18:05] <Biessie> is it possible to delete all my config files/apps for apt and reinstall?
[18:05] <Biessie> reset everything
[18:06] <ioria> Biessie, i blame webmin
[18:06] <tomreyn> Biessie: can you run this: sudo /bin/true; pastebinit <( sudo apt-get update -o 'Debug::Acquire::http=1' -o 'Debug::Hashes=1' -o 'Debug::pkgAcquire=1' -o 'Debug::pkgAcquire::Auth=1' -o 'Debug::pkgAcquire::Diffs=1' -o 'Debug::pkgAcquire::RRed=1' -o 'Debug::pkgAcquire::Worker=1' -o 'Debug::sourceList=1' 2>&1 ; )
[18:06] <TJ-> Biessie: there were some 'gets' there of the package lists so before doing anything else do "apt list --upgradable"
[18:07] <Biessie> tomreyn : http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/R5rSWvFQrH/
[18:08] <Biessie> TJ- : Listing ...Done
[18:08] <ioria> Biessie, seems that priority has been changed
[18:08] <qwebirc73975>  /var/log is 2,9G aside from speech-dispatcher which lacks permision. sudo isn't working in general now, I should have used it right after booting so it would work now.
[18:09] <tomreyn> Biessie: to answer your earlier question, deleting all configs and resetting packages is not really easily possible, you'd reinstall
[18:10] <ioria> Biessie, do you files in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ dir ?
[18:10] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: 2,9 GB for /var/log on a live cd is a lot / too much
[18:10] <Biessie> tomreyn : i was referring to "apt" files. but i figured it wouldnt be an option
[18:11] <Biessie> ioria : folder is empty
[18:11] <ioria> Biessie, seems that priority has been changed
[18:11] <ioria> Biessie, sorry
[18:12] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: run: ls -lah /var/log/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:13] <ioria> Biessie, can you  backup your sources.list and replace with  this :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cVnnmpfZXs/
[18:13] <tomreyn> Biessie: you could reinstall apt, but i'm not sure this would actually work currently. in fact what you could do is try to install, on a terminal,  any software package you don't already have and share the output.
[18:13] <qwebirc73975> termbin.com/1vda
[18:13] <TJ-> Biessie: can you show is "pastebinit <( dpkg --print-architecture; dpkg --print-foreign-architectures )"
[18:13] <TJ-> tomreyn: ioria wondering if the architecture has changed - might explain it
[18:14] <ioria> TJ-, yeah
[18:14] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: tail -n300 /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:14] <ioria> TJ-, do you know webmin ? could it override apt ?
[18:14] <Biessie> TJ- : http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4KZ9r3JJvm/
[18:14] <tomreyn> TJ-: interesting take.
[18:15] <tomreyn> architectures are fine
[18:16] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: your syslog is 1.5 GB, which is way too much. my suspicion may have been correct.
[18:16] <qwebirc73975> termbin.com/0wpp
[18:17] <ioria> Biessie, have you tried to replace sources.list and run  sudo apt update ?
[18:18] <Biessie> ioria : in process now
[18:18] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: lspci -tnvn | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:19] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: your system is reporting constant PCI bus errors at PCI port 0000:00:1c.5. the command i just asked you to run should hopefully tell us which PCI device this is
[18:19] <Biessie> ioria : Strange error.
[18:19] <Biessie> ioria : https://pastebin.com/CrSE0g4u
[18:20] <TJ-> ioria: webmin doesn't interfere, it sits on top
[18:20] <ioria> TJ-,  ok, thanks
[18:20] <TJ-> ioria: sorry, sits alongside, it uses the distro's own tooling
[18:20] <Biessie> see those appstreamcli warnings?
[18:20] <ioria> yep
[18:21] <tomreyn> TJ-: in case you are able to interpret apts debug output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/R5rSWvFQrH/
[18:21] <tomreyn> this was from <tomreyn> Biessie: can you run this: sudo /bin/true; pastebinit <( sudo apt-get update -o 'Debug::Acquire::http=1' -o 'Debug::Hashes=1' -o 'Debug::pkgAcquire=1' -o 'Debug::pkgAcquire::Auth=1' -o 'Debug::pkgAcquire::Diffs=1' -o 'Debug::pkgAcquire::RRed=1' -o 'Debug::pkgAcquire::Worker=1' -o 'Debug::sourceList=1' 2>&1 ; )
[18:21] <TJ-> tomreyn: I already scanned that one, it looks fine
[18:21] <tomreyn> yes, nothing obvious to me, too
[18:21] <TJ-> tomreyn: at this point we should be concentrating on the files (Package lists) actually stored on the system
[18:22] <tomreyn> i'll watch, trying to focus on qwebirc73975
[18:22] <TJ-> tomreyn: I'm thinking of grabbing some md5s of /var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages
[18:22] <TJ-> Biessie: can you show us "pastebinit <( md5sum /var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages )"
[18:23] <Biessie> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ndtw3vvWf2/
[18:23] <TJ-> BINGO!
[18:24] <tomreyn> huh
[18:24] <Biessie> good news?! haha
[18:24] <tomreyn> d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e is 0 bytes
[18:25] <qwebirc73975> That port! It given me trouble before I had to add pcie=nomsi to grub in order to get syslog not to grow really big.
[18:25] <qwebirc73975> termbin.com/2703
[18:26] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: so it'S the wireless chipset
[18:26] <tomreyn>            +-1c.5-[03]----00.0  Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter [10ec:b723]
[18:26] <TJ-> Biessie: show us "pastebinit <( cat /proc/mounts; ls -latr /var/lib/apt/lists/ )"
[18:27] <Biessie> TJ- : http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/znJtzH9d8Z/
[18:27] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: which is probably onboard - do you know?
[18:28] <qwebirc73975> I don't even know what there is to know.
[18:28] <TJ-> Biessie: OK, and now "pastebinit <( df -h; df -i )"
[18:29] <Biessie> TJ- :http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JQKK28W9MP/
[18:30] <ioria> Biessie, i think the package cache file is corrupted
[18:31] <TJ-> Biessie: OK, I did suspect the file-system but now I'm wondering if there's something intercepting the files apt is fetching
[18:32] <TJ-> Biessie: so "sudo find /var/lib/apt/lists -maxdepth 1 -type d -delete"  then re-fetch the lists with "sudo apt update"  and then let's check if upgrades are reported "apt list --upgradable"
[18:32] <TJ-> Biessie: STOP!!!
[18:32] <TJ-> Biessie: I mistyped
[18:32] <Biessie> this is so weird. okay
[18:32] <Biessie> okay*
[18:32] <TJ-> Biessie: here we go, lets delete files not directories!  "sudo find /var/lib/apt/lists -maxdepth 1 -type f -delete"  then re-fetch the lists with "sudo apt update"  and then let's check if upgrades are reported "apt list --upgradable"
[18:32] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: so if you want to prevent the disk from running full you can run "sudo service rsyslog stop", effectively stoppping all logging.
[18:33] <TJ-> tomreyn: also, could add a filter to rsyslog.d/ to drop those messages
[18:33] <tomreyn> TJ-: yes, but this is a live / installer system
[18:33] <ioria> partial can be recreated , btw
[18:33] <TJ-> tomreyn: it'd still work :)
[18:34] <tomreyn> TJ-: probably, i'm too lazy, though, feel free :)
[18:34] <TJ-> ioria: yes I know but not deleting the files would have been a major bug in my command :)
[18:34] <ioria> oky
[18:35] <qwebirc73975> I will have to try next time I reboot.
[18:35] <Biessie> TJ- : Think that worked.
[18:35] <Biessie> 220 are "upgradeable"\
[18:36] <TJ-> qwebirc73975: do you still not have 'sudo' operational right now?
[18:36] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: you said this is an asus X556U - on the asus website i find several models which start with "X556U" but they all have another letter to the end. did you miss one?
[18:36] <ioria> horrah
[18:36] <TJ-> Biessie: Yay!
[18:36] <Biessie> TJ- : Updating 213 files now!
[18:37] <Biessie> upgrading*
[18:37] <TJ-> Biessie: oh noes, we already lost 7 of them :D
[18:37] <qwebirc73975> X556UF-XO032T
[18:37] <TJ-> qwebirc73975: can you show us "journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:38] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: much better :)
[18:38] <ioria> Biessie, would be wise to know how that corruption happened (i mean, do you have disk issues ?)
[18:38] <Biessie> ioria : It is an extremely old laptop. could very well be losing sectors?
[18:39] <qwebirc73975> termbin.com/tn80
[18:39] <TJ-> ioria: I was thinking that; why would zero-length be created, then I thought... they're supposed to be extracted from the tar.gz/.gz files aren't they?
[18:39] <ioria> yup
[18:40] <TJ-> qwebirc73975: ouch, that is really bad!
[18:40] <TJ-> tomreyn: qwebirc73975 I suspect the trusty ole acpi_osi might help
[18:41] <Biessie> ioria : can i revert my sources.list backup?
[18:41] <ioria> Biessie, wait, has been those errors to pint the cache issue ...
[18:42] <ioria> Biessie, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2347244&page=2
[18:42] <ioria> Biessie, '(appstreamcli:4144): WARNING **: No origin found for file us.archive'
[18:44] <ioria> Biessie, you were not getting those warning with your original sources.list, right ?
[18:44] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: it's not as ewasy as i was hoping to find the specifications. there are bios updates available for it, which you cuold install. i'm not sure this would fix the pci issues, though.
[18:44] <Biessie> i did on the first apt get command but not again. and then with yours i did once only as well
[18:45] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: you could also reboot and post the output of "dmesg | head -n1000" so we can get a better idea of what's wrong
[18:45] <ioria> Biessie, honestly, you can try to replace it... but keep the other one
[18:45] <tomreyn> TJ-: you'Re saying the windows acpi osi?
[18:46] <Biessie> will do!
[18:46] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: https://www.asus.com/us/supportonly/X556UF/HelpDesk_BIOS/
[18:48] <tomreyn> !smart | Biessie: this is a way to get a better idea about the health of your HDD
[18:50] <qwebirc73975> Can't download it now but will remenber to do so in the future. Thinking about rebooting in order to try stoping logging.
[18:50] <TJ-> tomreyn: acpi_osi=Windows XXXX yes
[18:51] <Biessie> tomreyn thank you.
[18:51] <TJ-> qwebirc73975: what does this report? "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows | sort | tail -n 1"
[18:51] <Biessie> TJ- tomreyn ioria : thanks for the help and dedication. you are awesome
[18:52] <ioria> Biessie, did you rebooted ?
[18:52] <Biessie> ioria not yet
[18:52] <Biessie> still upgrading everything
[18:52] <ioria> ok
[18:52] <ioria> (cannot type today)
[18:53] <qwebirc73975> Can't use sudo unless I reboot.
[18:53] <TJ-> qwebirc73975: OK, try this instead as a test: "pkexec whoami"
[18:53] <TJ-> qwebirc73975: if it says 'root' use 'pkexec' instead of 'sudo' in that command
[18:54] <tomreyn> Biessie: you're welcome
[18:54] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: then reboot ;)
[18:54] <TJ-> Biessie: your issue is/was weird; Don't think I've seen that issue in over 13 years!
[18:55] <Biessie> TJ-  i just wanted to keep you on your toes!!
[18:56] <tomreyn> i guess apt should have a hardcoded check for 0 byte cached package files
[18:57] <TJ-> tomreyn: we still don't why/how it was creating them though.
[18:57] <Biessie> tomreyn running test now
[18:57] <qwebirc73975> Cannot run program string: No such file or directory
[18:58] <TJ-> qwebirc73975: oh doh, it should be "strings" not string"
[18:58] <tomreyn> TJ-: that's right. but this situation where apt reports no errors at all and just "seems to work" when it really doesn't is quite problematic.
[18:58] <qwebirc73975> windows 2015
[18:58] <TJ-> tomreyn: Oh I agree; I was thinking orthogonally :P
[18:58] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: what were you doing exactly there?
[18:59] <tomreyn> TJ-: yes, it's weird. but i have seen similar during the past 13 years :) but dont know the root cause either
[18:59] <cbpye> OK, now I'm really confused.  Fresh install, immediately updated everything I could, blacklisted nouveau, updated initramfs, rebooted, used driver manager to switch to nvidia-390 (and it sticks this time), rebooted, and I'm still unable to change resolution.
[18:59] <TJ-> qwebirc73975: OK! When you reboot, goto the bootloader menu, edit the kernel command-line and add (including the double quotes) these options:  acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015"
[19:00] <TJ-> qwebirc73975: I assume there was a capital W on Windows ?
[19:00] <ducasse> cbpye: which release is this?
[19:00] <qwebirc73975> Yes
[19:01] <TJ-> qwebirc73975: OK, then my suggested options are correct :)
[19:01] <qwebirc73975> The bootloader is not the BIOS screen right?
[19:02] <TJ-> qwebirc73975: correct. I think you said earlier you'd had to add pci=nomsi or similar - you add these the same way in the same place
[19:02] <cbpye> ducasse: Mint 19.1 XFCE -- cryptodan convinced me to give it a shot last night and I must say, it IS working a bit better for me.
[19:02] <ducasse> !mint | cbpye
[19:03] <TJ-> qwebirc73975: generally by tapping Esc key as the PC starts to get the GRUB boot menu, then hilighting the entry and pressing 'e' to edit it, then navigating down to the line starting "linux ..." and adding them there, then pressing Ctrl+X (or F10) to boot with the modifications
[19:03] <kinghat> any of you guys use tmate before?
[19:04] <qwebirc73975> I had edited grub by pluging the USB in a diferent computer and editing txt.cfg .
[19:04] <tomreyn> cryptodan_mobile: when you recommend mint to people here (why?!), please also make them aware they cannot get support with it here.
[19:04] <TJ-> qwebirc73975: you can do it that way too
[19:04] <cbpye> Oooh, I got him into trouble.
[19:04] <coz_> king you mean Mate DE?
[19:04] <coz_> sorry
[19:05] <coz_> kinghat, ^^
[19:05] <ioria> maybe, instant terminal sharing
[19:06] <kinghat> tmate.io
[19:06] <coz_> ah
[19:06] <kinghat> its like tmux but you share it with someone.
[19:06] <coz_> kinghat, thanks
[19:08] <qwebirc73975> Going to try acpi_osi=! .... Rebooting now.
[19:12] <sven_> Can i get here support for updating from a old version (15.10) to a new one?
[19:12] <tomreyn> !eolupgrade | sven_
[19:12] <tomreyn> just the latter part
[19:13] <cryptodan_mobile> tomreyn: as another method to troubleshoot and diagnose issues with their systems ifits not allowed I wont do that again
[19:14] <foo> I migrated from old digital ocean droplet to a new one. Same server specs. Ubuntu 14.04 to 18.04 (fresh install). I'm having a strange issue where some of my processes are hanging and building up (eg. ones that run every minute). I see this when I strace it, wait4(-1, ... until it dies: https://paste.ofcode.org/EHDvp2N6Y9cpbt2yNVAJ2v - can anyone else here make sense of this?
[19:14] <tomreyn> cryptodan_mobile: i dont get to decide what is 'allowed', but we usually don't recommend switching away from ubuntu to mint here. for... reasons.
[19:15] <sven_> tomreyn: i will retry but it did not work yesterday
[19:15] <tomreyn> sven_: what did you do yesterday, how did it not work?
[19:16] <qwebirc95665> Hi, the swiss ubuntu store is down, how chan i change the repository to internatioal?
[19:16] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: can you clarify "swiss ubuntu store"?
[19:17] <qwebirc95665> failed to fetch ch.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:17] <qwebirc95665> on other pc archive.ubuntu.com is up
[19:17] <qwebirc95665> so i want to remove the ch. part
[19:17] <qwebirc95665> i tried settings but coundnt find aNYTHING
[19:18] <sven_> tomreyn: follow the stepts from the url community/EOLUpgrades, i got 404 error's on the ssh
[19:18] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: is this a desktop computer, with a grpahical user interface, or a server computer?
[19:19] <qwebirc95665> Laptop with GUI
[19:19] <tomreyn> sven_: please rtry and when you hit the error 404 messages, explain exactly which command you ran and show the output it generated.
[19:19] <sven_> ok
[19:20] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: run software-properties-gtk and choose a different country for "Download from"
[19:21] <tomreyn> or "Main server"
[19:21] <Rizeeeeu> Hello, so i replaced one of my old drivers to a new one, and now im getting start job new disk and can't boot. I'm guessing i had swap on the old drive, havent used fstab in a while so im quite lost ; )
[19:22] <qwebirc95665> tomreyn thx
[19:22] <qwebirc95665> did work, i hope i can now download gparted
[19:22] <tomreyn> Rizeeeeu: so what you replaced is a (hard disk) drive, not a "driver", right?
[19:23] <Rizeeeeu> @tomreyn Yeah
[19:23] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: if not we can look more into this
[19:23] <qwebirc95665> dpkg unrecoverable fatal error
[19:23] <qwebirc95665> hm
[19:23] <qwebirc95665> i/O error
[19:24] <tomreyn> !paste | qwebirc95665: please use a pastebin to show the command you ran and the output it produced. if you were running this on the graphical user interface, show a screenshot instead.
[19:26] <qwebirc95665> paste.ubuntu.com/pq924t6XSjr
[19:27] <qwebirc95665> * https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q924t6XSjr/
[19:27] <tomreyn> Rizeeeeu: please run this: sudo /bin/true; pastebinit <( lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/version; cat /proc/cmdline; echo; sudo parted -ls; echo sudo blkid; echo cat /etc/fstab; echo; cat /etc/crypttab; echo;  grep ^ARRAY /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf  );
[19:29] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: df -h | pastebinit
[19:30] <qwebirc95665> cANT INSTALL PASTEBINIT
[19:31] <qwebirc95665> same error
[19:32] <mman> I am trying to install ubuntu on a previously installed win 10. I have done this in the past but on BIOS, now I am encounter a UEFI and when I use gparted I cannot find the SSD
[19:32] <mman> can you help me find the ssd to resize and instlal ubuntu?
[19:34] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: makes sense, sorry. please run this and report the output:  lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/version; cat /proc/cmdline; sudo parted -ls 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999; sudo blkid 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999; cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999; echo; cat /etc/crypttab; grep ^ARRAY /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[19:36] <tomreyn> mman: can you run this on a terminal and report the output here: sudo parted -ls 2>&1 | pastebinit
[19:36] <mman> Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes.
[19:36] <mman> Model: Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 (scsi)
[19:36] <mman> Disk /dev/sda: 15.5GB
[19:36] <mman> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[19:36] <mman> Partition Table: unknown
[19:36] <mman> Disk Flags:
[19:37] <tomreyn> !paste | mman
[19:37] <tomreyn> output from pastebinit should have been 1 line only, a http address
[19:37] <tomreyn> you may need to install pastebinit first
[19:38] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | mman
[19:38] <qwebirc95665> tomreyn https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6DpHVcJcbg/
[19:38] <mman> tomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y4yJvSm6Wm/
[19:40] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: please run: df -h | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:40] <tomreyn> !msg | Rizeeeeu
[19:41] <qwebirc95665> termbin.com/3y4x
[19:42] <tomreyn> mman: so this command returned only those 6 lines?
[19:42] <mman> tomreyn, you can see it only appears the usb
[19:42] <mman> tomreyn, yes
[19:43] <tomreyn> !smart | qwebirc95665: you may have HDD issues, please post the output of "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999" and have a look at your disks SMART data
[19:44] <tomreyn> mman: do you know whether this new disk you have ais an SSD, attached to the SATA bus, or an NVMe, attached to the PCI bus?
[19:44] <tomreyn> ais -> is
[19:44] <qwebirc95665> termbin.com/b8c6
[19:45] <sven_> tomreyn: this is the error https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DrKVvmybn9/
[19:46] <mman> tomreyn, it is a 516GB SSD not sure if its attached to SATA
[19:47] <qwebirc95665> tomreyn you think most likley had HDD?
[19:48] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: it seems that your 150 GB hard disk drive, Hitachi HTS54251 C31P, can be broken. based on its capacity, this must be a veeeery old hard didsk drive.
[19:48] <qwebirc95665> tomreyn i wanted to use that laptop to flash a 3 gb file to a sdcard, since its the only laptop the SD card seems to work
[19:49] <qwebirc95665> on m main laptop it dooesnt appear
[19:50] <qwebirc95665> sadly the files is bigger than the ram of the otherlaptop, so life system doesnt work
[19:50] <tomreyn> sven_: you are not using the correct apt sources - use http://ports.ubuntu.com/ instead. how did you install, is this actually ubuntu?
[19:51] <tomreyn> mman: enter bios and see what it's listed as there
[19:51] <sven_> tomreyn: yes it is 15.10
[19:51] <qwebirc95665> tomreyn any advice on how to find the sdcard on my other laptop?
[19:52] <sven_> tomreyn: my current source.list is https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C7mXF7vQC4/
[19:53] <qwebirc73975> I'm back and "sudo service rsylog stop" did stop aufs from reaching 100%. Progress! However I must have copied  wrong   acpi-osi=! "acpi-osi=Windows 2015
[19:54] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: start the other laptop, insert the sd card, then run "dmesg | pastebinit", "sudo lsusb | pastebinit" and "sudo lspci -nnv | pastebinit" and post the urls here
[19:55] <tomreyn> qwebirc73975: please change your irc nikcname so i can tell you apart from qwebirc95665. type this here: /nick acpi_osi
[19:55] <Rizeeeeu> just getting failed to connect in emergancy mode
[19:56] <tomreyn> qwebirc95665: please change your irc nikcname so i can tell you apart from qwebirc73975:. type this here: /nick find_sdcard
[19:56] <find_sdcard> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jgzV9pqHtP/ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sc86QcTVn2/ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bC6vYjRGy9/
[19:58] <tomreyn> sven_: okay, wily apt sources ar eindeed archived at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu - but when you switch to the new apt sources (as explained on the EOLUpgrade wiki i pointed you to earlier), you need to use http://ports.ubuntu.com
[19:59] <tomreyn> acpi_osi: thanks for changing your nickname. what you wrote abopve lacks a trailing quote, "
[19:59] <tomreyn> so make it:   acpi-osi=! "acpi-osi=Windows 2015"
[20:01] <tomreyn> Rizeeeeu: so you can't boot up properly, only to emergency mode?
[20:01] <tomreyn> Rizeeeeu: if so, run "editor /etc/fstab" and add a # in front of the line which is about swap.
[20:02] <tomreyn> Rizeeeeu: then save and reboot
[20:03] <tomreyn> find_sdcard:  thanks for changing your nickname. your first log contains this: rtsx_pci_sdmmc rtsx_pci_sdmmc.0: no support for card's volts    mmc0: error -22 whilst initialising SDIO card       rtsx_pci_sdmmc rtsx_pci_sdmmc.0: no support for card's volts        mmc0: error -22 whilst initialising MMC card
[20:04] <acpi_osi> Will do. Rebooting now.
[20:05] <tomreyn> find_sdcard: this suggests that the power supply provided to the sd card is insufficient. try unplugging any usb devices you dont strictly need there right now, then remove and re-connect the sd card.
[20:06] <TJ-> I could get used to this ... nicks set to the problem!
[20:07] <tomreyn> find_sdcard: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bC6vYjRGy9/ see lines 175 ff at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bC6vYjRGy9/ for details on your sdcard reader
[20:07] <sven_> tomreyn: i have change it but i get more error's now https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/95Gwnd7RdC/
[20:07] <tomreyn> TJ-: handy, isnt it ;)
[20:08] <find_sdcard> tomreyn even without mouse and keyboard didnt work
[20:09] <find_sdcard> tomreyn so the sdcardreader has not enought energie?
[20:09] <tomreyn> sven_: did you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Update_sources.list
 sven_: okay, wily apt sources are indeed archived at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu - but when you switch to the new apt sources (as explained on the EOLUpgrade wiki i pointed you to earlier), you need to use http://ports.ubuntu.com
[20:12] <tomreyn> sven_: it is possible that the approach described on the wiki just doesn't work for you since the armhf apt sources moved to a location which do.release-upgrade doe snot know about. if so, you may need to do a fresh installation, which may indeed be advisable.
[20:13] <ioria> sven_, can you paste your actual sources.list ?
[20:13] <Rizeeeeu> tomreyn yeah, can't boot up, always into emergancy mode tried that about # swap and still get start up job running for dev-disk-by
[20:13] <tomreyn> find_sdcard: maybe it does not get enough power, or it is just not able (not specificed) to work with the amount of power which would be needed to handle this sd card. i'm not sure what the message suggests.
[20:13] <mman> tomreyn, so, it is a SSD with Raid On (intel rapid restore technology) It can be changed to AHCI
[20:14] <mman> tomreyn, it is SATA
[20:14] <sven_> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C7mXF7vQC4/ is my sources.list
[20:15] <ioria> sven_, and what arch ?
[20:16] <sven_> ioria: i think archf
[20:16] <ioria> sven_, armhf ?
[20:17] <sven_> ioria: yes armhf
[20:17] <ioria> sven_, dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[20:17] <TJ-> tomreyn: to avoid confusion, d-r-u does know about ports.ubuntu.com. See /usr/share/ubuntu-release-upgrader/mirrors.cfg
[20:18] <tomreyn> Rizeeeeu: can you reboot to recovery menu and bring up the network there, then post "blkid | nc termbin.com 9999" and "cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:18] <tomreyn> TJ-: also in wily?
[20:18] <sven_> ioria: sorry no output
[20:19] <tomreyn> mman: change it to AHCI, RAID ON wont work
[20:20] <ioria> sven_,  what happens if you try this as sources.list  after running apt update ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hJBNR84T29/
[20:23] <acpi_osi> I'm back once more and am now unsure that I know how to edit grub.
[20:23] <sven_> ioria: 466 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
[20:24] <ioria> sven_,  in sources.list change xenial with wily
[20:24] <ioria> sven_,  and run again apt update
[20:25] <mman> tomreyn, do I have to also remove the fast startup and secureboot in windows? is that mandatory?
[20:25] <acpi_osi> The grub on /etc/default contains no modification.
[20:26] <tomreyn> mman: secure boot may not be strictly necessary, but fast startup needs to be removed, yes.
[20:26] <sven_> ioria: E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:27] <tomreyn> acpi_osi: you can just type these parameters during the boot, this way you dont need to edit the files on your live iso image.
[20:27] <ioria> sven_,  sounds wily repos are dead ?
[20:28] <mman> tomreyn, it is funny, in some places I reade it is necessary to remove secure boot and in others the opposite... ill do both. Doing that you think Ill get the disk in gparted listed?
[20:28] <TJ-> tomreyn: yes, also in Wily: See https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/tree/data?h=applied/ubuntu/wily-updates
[20:28] <sven_> ioria: i think https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wm6PPQnhgq/
[20:29] <ioria> sven_,  you can try the 'debian way' , but not garantee
[20:29] <find_sdcard> tomreyn 3th laptop: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XPjH2nhfSs/
[20:29] <tomreyn> acpi_osi: TJ explained it earlier. he said: "I think you said earlier you'd had to add pci=nomsi or similar - you add these the same way in the same place. generally [you access it] by tapping Esc key as the PC starts to get the GRUB boot menu, then hilighting the entry and pressing 'e' to edit it, then navigating down to the line starting "linux ..." and adding them there, then pressing Ctrl+X (or F10) to boot with the modifications."
[20:30] <sven_> ioria: i only know this way ( a verry little bit)
[20:30] <ioria> sven_,  reverse again wily with xenial; apt update; apt upgrades; apt dist-upgrades
[20:30] <tomreyn> mman: to get it listed in gparted you only need to change the AHCI mode. the other changes are about coexistence with windows. you should actually not remove secure boot if you plan to dual boot windows and linux on this computer.
[20:31] <tomreyn> TJ-: thanks for checking!
[20:32] <acpi_osi> There are 2 bootlooders, the one I used is the one where you have to select the natonality of your keyboard. In this one pressing F6 makes a line from txt.cfg apper but grug in/etc/default has not changed.
[20:33] <mman> tomreyn, I want ubuntu and windows in the same pc. So by changing AHCI I will be able to list the SSD in Gparted and resize the Windows partition. Then I will install ubuntu and remove the fast startup. With that I will be able to have win + linux right?
[20:34] <anddam> howdy
[20:34] <sven_> ioria: +300 update's, it will take some time
[20:35] <ioria> sven_,  yep
[20:35] <tomreyn> mman: i'm not actually sure whether windows will still be able to boot after you disabled the fakeraid, but you most likely need / want to do so. so worst case you'll need reinstall windows, then reinstall linux
[20:36] <tomreyn> mman: however, if windows still boots fine after setting to AHCI, you can just proceed with the ubuntu installation
[20:37] <mman> tomreyn, how would you proceed then? The only reason I want to use gparted is to resize the win partition. If there is another way without having to risk the "not booting anymore into windows" i would prefer that
[20:37] <find_sdcard> tomreyn 3th laptop: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XPjH2nhfSs/ it can recnogize the card, but it still fails
[20:40] <tomreyn> mman: you can resize partitions in windows during runtime. ask in ##windows
[20:40] <tomreyn> find_sdcard: and it fails differently this time
[20:41] <tomreyn> find_sdcard: apparently the card is detected fine, but writing to it fails
[20:41] <mman> tomreyn, I know how to do it, just I know from previous experience it is not the best idea to resize while being in the same partition. Anyway, I will give it a try, it is a fresh new laptop
[20:41] <tomreyn> find_sdcard: are you sure the card is not just broken?
[20:43] <tomreyn> mman: it *may* be possible to do it with gparted if you switch the bios to ahci, then boot linux, then run gparted, then switch the bios back to 'raid on', then boot windows. but i lack understanding of this fakeraid to be able to tell whether this would work.
[20:44] <find_sdcard> i try another one
[20:44] <find_sdcard> it was brand new
[20:44] <find_sdcard> out of the box today
[20:46] <mman> tomreyn, so your recommendation is to resize in windows and then install ubuntu. right?
[20:47] <tomreyn> find_sdcard: i see. i'm not very experienced with sd card readers, though, and need a computer break. please consider repeating your question / issue and sum up the output you provided so far / what we have learnt so far to enable others to support you.
[20:47] <tomreyn> mman: assuming you have backups of course, yes.
[20:48] <tomreyn> mman: you can also have the ubuntu desktop installer do the resizing, though.
[20:48] <tomreyn> mman: i need a break, sorry. please consider repeating your question / issue and sum up the output you provided so far / what we have learnt so far to enable others to support you.
[20:50] <mman> tomreyn, thanks
[20:51] <uebera||> Hi. I signed a .deb file using "dpkg-sig --sign builder *.deb". Now, given some signed "archive.deb", how can I determine which key has been used to sign it?
[20:54] <uebera||> To answer my previous question: "dpkg-sig --verify archive.deb" displays the digest.
[21:10] <acpi_osi> I must thank tomreyn and TJ for their help even has my problem is not fully fixed, but that is due to my own tiredness. So, thank you.
[21:10] <dontlook> booting Ubuntu via syslinux(BIOS) using iso-scan/filename.  It boots and seems to find files, but it starts X and I just get a black screen(no mouse).  I can see some purple at the very top of teh window.  Kinda of like the graphics crashed.
[21:10] <dontlook> Any suggestions?
[21:10] <dontlook> Testing with qemu-system-x86_64
[21:12] <dontlook> i'm avoiding unetbootin, because it makes a bit of mess of the drive, and doesn't really seem condusive to multiple distros on the same drive
[21:13] <TJ-> acpi_osi: the kernel command-line is helping?
[21:23] <gunarm_> tomreyn: can I pm you about the server iso md5 thing?
[21:39] <gunarm_> TJ-: if you're interested https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1810633
[21:41] <TJ-> gunarm_: ahhh, but the problem isn't in subiquity is it, it's actually a problem for the ISO production
[21:43] <gunarm_> TJ-: heh, well it's somewhere, mdeslaur said he'd tell the release team
[21:48] <TJ-> gunarm_: I've added a comment to the bug with my results
[21:49] <gunarm_> TJ-: awesome, would you also click "it affects me"
[21:49] <maetthew> I'm having this problem where my keyboard buttons for volume up/down stops working what seems to be randomly. At first I thought it had something to do with when the computer went to sleep, but yesterday it happened without the computer sleep and then the same happened again today. I switched from Windows to Ubuntu Budgie 18.04 approx two weeks ago and after a few small quirks in the beginning everything's been working smooth except for this
[21:49] <maetthew> small thing. Coming from some (little) experience of mainly Linux servers and very limited experience with desktop environments I have no clue at all here. Anyone got any idea how to troubleshoot this?
[21:59] <tomreyn> gunarm_: hi, you can PM me, but we can also talk here or in #ubuntu-discuss.
[22:03] <Haunted330> This channel is closed. You are going to have to leave.
[22:03] <tomreyn> Haunted330: please troll elsewhere.
[22:04] <Haunted330> Im doing my job
[22:04] <maetthew> People troll on IRC in 2019?
[22:05] <OerHeks> lets move back to support, do not feed trolls
[22:05] <Haunted330> Im not trolling. Im doing my job
[22:05] <Haunted330> were closed
[22:05] <tomreyn> !ops | Haunted330
[22:05] <Haunted330> definitely dont abuse the ops command please
[22:06] <Haunted330> !ops everything is good.
[22:08] <OerHeks> testing a vostro V13 with a celeron M ULV 743, it turns out to be a single core :-(
[22:09]  * OerHeks has an another doorstopper
[22:09] <mobile_c> where do i find debugging symbols for gcc
[22:12] <OerHeks> i hope this page is any help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages
[22:12] <TJ-> mobile_c: the tools themselves? on the ddebs.ubuntu.com archive
[22:12] <mobile_c> cus i want to monitor gcc's memory usage
[22:13] <mobile_c> as if i do gdb gcc i get 'Reading symbols from gcc...(no debugging symbols found)...done.' so im assuming valgrind wont provide usefull info
[22:14] <mobile_c> without the debugging symbols
[22:15] <TJ-> mobile_c: as in  for c in bionic{,-updates,-security,-proposed}; do echo "deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com $c main universe multiverse restricted" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debugsymbols.list; done
[22:16] <TJ-> mobile_c: if using something other than 'bionic' alter that
[22:17] <TJ-> mobile_c: once that is added, "sudo apt update" then you'll be able to find packages with -dbgsym suffixes with "apt list gcc*-dbgsym"
[22:26] <mobile_c> ok
[22:27] <mobile_c> do i need to do that as root?
[22:27] <JoseAntonio> mobile_c, yes is root
[22:28] <TJ-> gunarm_: I solved the issue; bug report updated
[22:28] <TJ-> mobile_c: what as root? The commands I gave work as shown
[22:34] <mobile_c> https://bpaste.net/show/199cd6a14089
[22:35] <TJ-> mobile_c: ahhh, you need the signing key too, let me check which package has it
[22:36] <TJ-> mobile_c: "sudo apt install ubuntu-dbgsym-keyring"
[22:38] <OerHeks> :-)
[22:38] <mobile_c> https://bpaste.net/show/f8412a3c1d19
[22:40] <OerHeks> bionic-proposed ..
[22:41] <OerHeks> before you ran update
[22:41] <OerHeks> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys F2EDC64DC5AEE1F6B9C621F0C8CAB6595FDFF622
[22:41] <OerHeks> then run updates
[22:42] <tomreyn> also there are no debug symbols for bionic-security since those would go into bionic-updates, i would think
[22:43] <mobile_c> how do i remove it
[22:43] <tomreyn> you delete the  "http://ddebs.ubuntu.com bionic-security" line
[22:44] <OerHeks> main restricted universe multiverse updates and proposed indeed
[22:46] <mobile_c> ok
[22:50] <Sushi-san> Can anyone recommend a good laptop that would run ubuntu 18.04 LTS well?
[22:51] <tomreyn> Sushi-san: one which is sold with linux preinstalled.
[22:52] <Wonny> tomreyn, huh. they do that now a days? who knew.
[22:52] <tomreyn> (and is not too old a model)
[22:53] <tomreyn> Wonny: yes there are some companies which do this. not too many, and not too many big ones.
[22:53] <Sushi-san> The only _decent_ one of those is the dell xps dev edition
[22:54] <mobile_c> isnt list-symbols-packages-v2.sh unreliable?
[22:55] <mobile_c> as a process may dlopen its libs instead of explicidly linking them
[22:56] <mobile_c> thus ALL libs may not be found that the process will use
[22:56] <TJ-> mobile_c: in which case you set a break on dlopen and then load the symbols for the library being loaded
[22:57] <raindev> Sushi-san: I'd go for a Dell. There're other models coming with Ubuntu besides XPS too.
[22:58] <mobile_c> but that may only happen under certain conditions in the program
[22:58] <mobile_c> TJ-:
[22:59] <TJ-> mobile_c: correct. What do you expect, magic?
[22:59] <Sushi-san> raindev, like what?
[22:59] <mobile_c> no
[22:59] <TJ-> mobile_c: you don't need the symbols if the library isn't loaded
[22:59] <tomreyn> static analysis may help there
[23:00] <mobile_c> why cant u like just make a gdb script that automates all this lol
[23:01] <jcdutton> mobile_c, what are you trying to do?
[23:01] <mobile_c> like gdb prog -ex try_to_extract_dbg_smbol_packages
[23:01] <mobile_c> instead of needing a pid of a running process lol
[23:02] <mobile_c> that will try to detect any library or application being loaded on a normal run then install the dbg packages for those libs or applications
[23:02] <raindev> Sushi-san: Inspiron/Precision. Depends on the country. Have a look at their website.
[23:03] <Sushi-san> Thanks
[23:04] <mobile_c> actually you should be able to do this with just ptrace without needing gdb itself
[23:04] <mobile_c> so its faster
[23:06] <mobile_c> actually a better option would be a custom linker that logs every file and library opened and logs it to a file
[23:07] <mobile_c> then u just need to install the dbg packages for the list produced by the linker
[23:24]  * jcdutton wonders is mobile_c has used "lsof"
[23:35] <pikia> I have a server running weechat in a tmux. I want to send a send-notify signal to my local machine when I receive a new message from someone from weechat. I am unsure of how to send messages back to my local mahcine when I am ssh'd to my server
[23:35] <pikia> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[23:35] <pikia> notify-send***
[23:47] <tomreyn> pikia: you'd either have your server ssh to your desktop and run it there or have your desktop regularly check (poll) on the server for updates (using ssh, looking for a file in a directory, or using a webserver you host there, or ...)
[23:49] <Flannel> pikia: why not just bell?
[23:49] <pikia> I like the little notification bubble i get
[23:54] <pikia> Ssh-ing back into my desktop sounds like a PITA.
[23:57] <OerHeks> interesting, but written for debian, notify over ssh https://github.com/itsamenathan/libnotify-over-ssh
[23:57] <OerHeks> and https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/147036/notify-send-not-working-under-ssh
[23:59] <volty> Hi, guys. Last night I installed kubuntu-18.04, and today I woke up with a dead computer. Was going to throw it and buy a new one