[00:12] ikonia, it's what he was spamming me [00:31] hi people, I want to know if there is a way how to upgrade my old arduino ide to the latest version? [00:32] guys, I'm with 16.04 now [00:32] but I have problems installing PPAs from terminal [00:33] no matter what I try I get some script errors [00:33] why's that ? Should I "install" snap on 16.04 ? [00:33] it looks like it is already there [00:34] mDonchev_: Will help greatly to show the command and the result in a pastebin :) [00:36] snap find arduino [00:37] ikonia: I have an interesting command run: https://i.imgur.com/X4P9GFN.png [00:37] always check if a ppa has candidates for your 16.04 version [00:38] I tested copying a 500MB file on disk and there was no issue. Forking a process failed though. [00:38] Does that mean the filesystem where /proc is mounted is full? [00:40] https://pastebin.com/zDzuBMYN [00:40] tangarora: so why dont you tunnel through ssh? [00:40] mDonchev_, that was for littlebit [00:41] and the nc tool is running too quickly, as the find command needs some seektime [00:41] OerHeks, its OK. It shows how snap gives me errors [00:41] Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/zDzuBMYN [00:41] LOLZ [00:42] just explained what you did wrong [00:42] try without | nc termbin.com 9999 [00:44] Bashing-om, am I missing something? [00:45] tangarora: you can either qemu+ssh (that's a supported URI scheme) to the CLI or you can use the spice protocol which actually supports TLS https://people.freedesktop.org/~teuf/spice-doc/html/ch02s08.html . or you can tunnel any of these protocols through SSH (manually, outside of the application logic). [00:45] mDonchev_, "but I have problems installing PPAs from terminal" , we would like to get a paste with your try? paste.ubuntu.com [00:46] mDonchev_: Sorry - the find completes for me in 18.04 // but I have no snap experience to know if you have some issue or not . [00:46] OerHeks: https://pastebin.com/zDzuBMYN [00:47] How do I find out what my main screen is called? My PC starts with the screen rotated and I'm trying to write a script to rotate the screen, but I don't know what it is called. [00:49] mDonchev_, that command was not for you, anyway, try without | nc termbin.com 9999 [00:51] https://www.pastebin.com/rt2GjSun [00:57] this sign could well be caused by a proxy [00:57] but I just installed 16.04 [00:57] is it somehow setup by default? [00:57] if so ... how can I remove it [00:57] ? [00:58] also when I try to install something from flatpak, I get Can't load uri .... Unacceptable TLS certificate [00:58] what does it mean? [01:01] hm ... it seems I cannot install almost anything except the software on the normal preinstalled Ubuntu Software [01:01] https://www.rsyslog.com/regex/ says my regep '\ intel ips [0-9a-zA-Z:.]+: failed to disable graphics turbo$' matches sample log line 'kernel: [ 2179.804017] intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: failed to disable graphics turbo', but my rule ':msg,regex,"\ intel ips [0-9a-zA-Z:.]+: failed to disable graphics turbo$" stop' doesn't work, while a relaxed 'contains' rule does match. What could be wrong? [01:03] :( Anyone? [01:04] mDonchev_, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade # to see if it brings in a newer snapd [01:05] nope, everything is up to date [01:08] mDonchev_: is this on a desktop computer? [01:10] looks like rsyslogd can't repeat regexp parts with +, only with *. [01:11] yes [01:12] mDonchev_: please show: echo -e '^d' | openssl s_client -showcerts -connect api.snapcraft.io:443 | nc termbin.com 9999 [01:12] tomreyn, desktop one [01:13] mDonchev_: also: host api.snapcraft.io 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 [01:13] https://termbin.com/yf0f [01:14] https://termbin.com/y8dy [01:15] mDonchev_: is there any warning when you access https://api.snapcraft.io with firefox or chromium-bowser ? [01:15] TLSv1/SSLv3 is different than mine TLSv1.2 [01:16] nope - green lock icon and it says: snapcraft.io store API service - Copyright 2018 Canonical. [01:17] OerHeks: looks fine here, what differences do you see? [01:18] just the tls version [01:19] but he has no updates at all, reinstalling ca-certs looks like not needed [01:19] HexChat is active 113 of 113 items. Double tap to activate. [01:20] OerHeks: so we saw "sudo apt(-get) update; apt(-cache) policy" output, already? [01:20] no [01:21] just another issue with flatpack too [01:21] But is this how it's suppose to be? [01:21] I just installed 16.04 and I cannot install software [01:21] for some reason? [01:21] mDonchev_: please post the output of: pastebinit <( sudo apt-get update 2>&1; sudo apt-cache policy 2>&1; date -u ) [01:22] OerHeks: here i see TLSv1.2, just like on https://termbin.com/yf0f [01:23] https://pastebin.com/xdqBHKG7 [01:24] mine, New, TLSv1.2, Cipher is ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 https://termbin.com/vot9 [01:24] vs New, TLSv1/SSLv3 [01:24] but lets wait for the update output, that could tell more === mouses is now known as Shoresy === Shoresy is now known as mouses [01:28] OerHeks: i think the "New, TLSv1.2" vs "New, TLSv1/SSLv3" (handshake) can be explained by 16.04 vs 18.04. we do see below that the session is actually based on TLSv1.2, though. so what we have is a certificate CAA issue reported by the snap CLI ("certificate signed by unknown authority") as well as for the flatpack CLI, but we can not reproduce this using a web browser on the same computer (though they may not check for CAA, yet), correct? [01:28] date/time are fine [01:29] i will try this on 16.04 [01:30] hi all just wondering how long i should be waiting for a 1.8G iso to copy from my ssd to my cheap ass usb stick (2.0-if that) [01:30] my copies progress goes from zero to 1.6 and then hangs for up to 5 minutes to finish and for the little gui circle to go away [01:31] conjo: https://superuser.com/questions/317217/whats-the-maximum-typical-speed-possible-with-a-usb2-0-drive/995350 [01:31] dont miss the 2nd answer [01:32] thank you [01:32] guys, do you think there is a light in my tunnel? [01:34] mDonchev_, no idea what is crashing , i am looking in dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates or update-ca-certificates --fresh and other posts [01:34] tomreyn, legend thank you very much [01:35] if it will be a hint, I just installed Corebird and when I click the button "Request PIN" to open Twitter so I can get a PIN I get a system message box: Unacceptable TLS certificate [01:38] mDonchev_: i'm trying to reproduce it on 16.04, give me a minute [01:38] surething [01:39] mDonchev_: if you run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", does it want to install anything? [01:40] nope [01:41] just saying that there are several packages which are no longer needed [01:41] and I can use sudo apt autoremove [01:41] to remove them [01:42] ok, thanks. you can remove them if you like, doesn't matter to me [01:42] i had a lot of pending upgrade son my 16.04 vm, this is going to take a few more minuntes. [01:43] sure [01:43] no worries [01:43] I cannot install a thing on that machine so I will wait [01:43] mDonchev_: apt does work though, right? [01:45] e.g. you can "sudo apt install apt-show-versions" without error? [01:46] yep, just installed this tool. [01:46] mDonchev_: did you possibly play with "ca-certificates" the other day (if you dont know what this is it's ok)? [01:47] i know what certificates are but I haven't played with this setup. It's been like 2 hours since I installed this 16.04 [01:47] and I tried to install nvidia drivers and some software [01:47] when I get stuck with this problem [01:47] haven't touched anything on the settings side [01:48] so there is no proxy issue .. [01:48] i am out of ideas [01:48] but how come this is happening ? [01:48] :( [01:48] I just downloaded and isntalled 16.04 and was happy that I was able to isntall the nvidia.304 driver [01:54] md5sum /usr/bin/snap [01:54] 7bc1749b76555ea541734b02973b1051 /usr/bin/snap [01:54] mDonchev_: can you run this, too? [01:54] ok [01:55] d6938e79ac9c12e524ccad8de590b2c3 /usr/bin/snap [01:56] interesting, differnet binary. [01:56] dpkg -l snapd [01:57] reports 2.34.2 here [01:57] version 2.35.5 [01:57] amd64 [01:58] !info snapd xenial [01:58] snapd (source: snapd): Daemon and tooling that enable snap packages. In component main, is optional. Version 2.34.2 (xenial), package size 9584 kB, installed size 46144 kB [01:58] proposed enabled [01:58] mDonchev_: how did you install yours? [01:59] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/2.35.5 [01:59] i think it was already installed [01:59] (not 100% sure) [01:59] but I can remove and install it again if I have to [02:00] hola again is there a command from terminal i can run to find out speed of usb i have plugged into my pc [02:00] eg list 1.0 2.0 3.0 speed listings [02:02] so xenial-proposed has a newer ca-certificates and a newer snapd, too [02:02] I believe mine is 16.04.1 [02:02] that's what I donwloaded and burned on the flash drive [02:03] mDonchev_: should be 16.04.5 by now, lsb_release -ds [02:03] but someone told me here that if I isntall 16.04.5 it will have problems installing my nvidia.304 driver [02:03] that's why i did install 16.04.1 [02:03] if you did dist-upgrade, you would be on .5 now [02:04] loving Xubuntu on my Thinkpad X230 [02:05] Yep [02:05] 16.04.5 here [02:05] =( [02:05] fresh install? [02:05] backup? [02:06] but it seems that its a general problem [02:06] k [02:06] run older version [02:06] installing PPAs also don't work (similar reason - cannot find valid ppa information) [02:06] mDonchev_: i can't reproduce it here with 16.04.5 amd64 with proposed enabled, fully updated. [02:06] dont run dist upgrade [02:07] conjo, why? [02:07] mDonchev_: can you show the ppa error, please [02:07] command you run + output it generated [02:07] (or action you did and error reported if GUI) [02:07] is this about the nvidia 304 driver for an onboard geforce 7025 ? [02:08] didnt ur card run on 16.04.1? [02:08] https://pastebin.com9gE175up [02:08] conjo, yes [02:11] mDonchev_: hmm, this, too, works without error here. i'm starting to think you may have foreign packages. can you please run this script and report its output? https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages [02:15] There is an SSL error maybe a bad install? [02:15] https://pastebin.com/ZvL6eQWY [02:15] mDonchev_: can you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates" and while keeping selections, tell me what is showon on screen 1 (what is it set to?) and 2 (any missing checkboxes)? [02:17] screen1: asking about installing new CA certificates that will be trusted and installed (YES), nnot be installed (NO), prompt for each new CA certificate (ASK) [02:17] my YES answer is marked [02:17] should I click ENTER on YES? [02:18] (sorry for the caps) [02:18] mDonchev_: yes [02:18] on second screen [02:19] !info cups xenial [02:19] cups (source: cups): Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - PPD/driver support, web interface. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.3-4ubuntu0.6 (xenial), package size 194 kB, installed size 760 kB [02:19] there is a huge list of certificates all starting with mozilla/ [02:19] but nothing is iselected [02:19] mDonchev_: are you saying nothiung is deselected / unticked? [02:20] nothing is selected. [02:20] empty checkboxes [02:21] Is system time correct and does https://navyfederal.org work [02:21] system time is fine, we checked this already [02:21] so i'm a bit puzzled there. [02:22] should I make some checks [02:22] ? [02:22] you have newer versions of some packages installed than i have [02:22] and ones which are "not in the archive" [02:23] mDonchev_: i [02:23] should I have at least one certificate selected on that list? Should I activate some? [02:24] or update-ca-certificates --fresh [02:24] but this proposed worries me, and flatpak [02:24] OerHeks: 0 added, 0 removed; done. [02:25] mDonchev_: by default all certificates on the 2nd screen should be checked. [02:25] does it matter that I'm in Bulgaria actually? [02:25] tomreyn, let me check them no w... [02:25] no, your mirror is oke [02:25] mDonchev_: i'm falling asleep, unfortunately need to wrap it up here. [02:26] i suspect that you do not trust ny of the CAs installed. [02:26] 148 added it said [02:26] mDonchev_: try "snap search arduino" again [02:27] :( still the same [02:27] but PPA seems to be working I think [02:27] mDonchev_: sudo snapctl restart; snap search arduino [02:28] how can I check why kernel module intel_ips was loaded, and/or to which device in lspci it is related? [02:28] actually this wont work [02:28] ok [02:28] probably restarting the machine? [02:29] Is python-openssl installed [02:29] mDonchev_: sudo systemctl restart snapd; snap search arduin [02:29] mDonchev_: sudo systemctl restart snapd; snap search arduino [02:29] it found it !!!! [02:29] tomreyn :) It found it [02:29] I guess I will be able to use snap now [02:29] :) [02:30] thanks a TON ! [02:30] ok mDonchev_, looks like you or some other admin on this system chose to disable / distrust all CA root certificates. [02:30] good timing, i need sleep, ttyl [02:30] ttyl :) same here [02:41] !ping [02:41] pong! === capella is now known as diddy === diddy is now known as biggieSmalls === mobile_c_ is now known as mobile_c === biggieSmalls is now known as capellaGoesBOO [03:07] Is there a known issue in 16.04 related to complete lockups when unmounting a USB drive (possibly only an encrypted one)? [03:28] Hello, my pc wont recognize new usbsticks or the SD-card [03:28] what can i do [03:28] i tried Rebooting so far [03:33] ah, think it's this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2406277 :/ === capellaGoesBOO is now known as capella|away === capella|away is now known as capellaGoesBOO === capellaGoesBOO is now known as capella === wodencafe is now known as upwoden === mwd_ is now known as mwd [05:21] so what does one do when even 'sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall' fails to change anything? [05:26] cbpye: why not use Drivers in the System Admin menu option? [05:28] I would probably find out which drivers are failing and try to install their packages individually [05:33] cbpye: what driver are you wanting to install? ie what changes were you expecting? [05:39] well, I was expecting a reboot to start using the new drivers I had installed (I noticed no error messages). 'lsmod | grep -i nvidia' shows no nvidia modules loaded, nvidia-settings is a blank window, [05:40] ... and I just attempted a 'sudo apt-get purge *nvidia*' but was given an 'E: unable to find package nvidiasolution' in response. [05:40] so that's quite unexpected. [05:42] and indeed I'm unable to find any such package in the package manager. [05:43] cbpye: use driver manager and see why it errors [05:43] do you have a GUI available? I didn't know about this ubuntu-drivers command but the Drivers gui has never failed me [05:45] Sorry, I'm avoiding the use of a GUI because I'm using an ubuntu-derivative, and I want to keep it to stuff that's common across the *buntus (and that IRC channel is no-where near as active) [05:46] cbpye: Well its one way to check for errors [05:50] very well then. Driver Manager populates a list of several drivers, among them the default Nouveau display driver and the 415 metapackage which is recommended. [05:51] Nouveau is selected by default. I am now going to select 415 and Apply. [05:53] ... at least, after I set up some konsole windows to tail -f some log files. [05:55] .... and Driver Manager briefly cleared, and refreshed itself showing no change. I'll pastebin some interesting log output if I find any. [05:55] cbpye: look lower on the window [05:55] it will say reboot to apply changes [05:57] well, rebooting. That was anti-climactic. the syslog output showed absolutely nothing aside from a START followed by an END, and the apt log likewise didn't even change. [05:59] cbpye: as seen here https://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_years/2014_1/netrunner-driver-manager-nvidia-offer.jpg on the very bottom [06:02] ... is that KDE4? [06:03] i wouldnt know I just found that to show you where it would say reboot to complete the changes [06:05] cryptodan: well, it might be a moot point. My reboot has yet to complete. [06:06] actually getting kinda worried. Screen powered off shortly after I typed "rebooting" and the system has yet to cycle. [06:06] Ubuntu filenames in shell such as |ls| now seem to wrap in quotes (?) [06:06] Or have I been blind all along :p [06:07] what distro you running [06:08] 18.04 ubuntu [06:08] capella: then no I wouldnt think so [06:08] cryptodan: Kubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, fresh install. [06:10] closed term reopened ... quotes gone .... i've seen that before ... something I'm corrupting :-/ [06:13] cbpye: has it completed? [06:13] hello [06:14] cryptodan: looks like the reboot finally completed. No noticeable errors, but I'm still stuck at 1024x768 [06:14] i like sex [06:15] cryptodan: looks like no nvidia modules have loaded, either. [06:15] cbpye: okay open up nvidia-settings [06:15] cbpye: do you have secure boot on [06:15] oh ffs [06:15] cryptodan: I don't think I do. let me check my UEFI. [06:16] I know I'm booting UEFI-mode, but I could have sworn I disabled secure boot. [06:16] if it matters: I could not run the installer without editing the grub line to add [06:16] 'nouveau.modeset=0' [06:17] i just did the compatibility mode for mint 18.3 and it worked for me. but you may need to remove that line if its still there in the grub file [06:19] I had to do the same after installation, and then added a blacklist conf file for nouveau, updated initramfs, and rebooted. I can at least get to my 1024x768 session, but I need me a more-slick resolution. [06:20] secure boot on prevents nvidia from loading [06:20] also, the nvidia-settings window is still absolutely blank. It is featureless. I can click Help or Quit, and that's it. [06:20] cbpye: likely secure boot is on [06:23] fuck [06:23] i like pussy [06:24] how can I tell via command line? biggest tell-tale sign that I have is that there is a 'SecureBoot-lotsofnumbers' file in the /sys/firmware/efi/efivars directory. [06:24] mwsb: *highfive* [06:27] cryptodan: the SecureBoot section of my UEFI says that SecureBoot state is set to Disabled (and OS Type is set to Other OS) [06:27] cbpye: look at dmesg [06:29] cryptodan: 'dmesg | grep Secure' reveals: 0.000000 secureboot: Secure boot could not be determined (mode 0) [06:29] cbpye: grep for nvidia [06:30] cryptodan: nothing returned. [06:31] going to try Driver Manager again. [06:31] cbpye: try "sudo apt install nvidia-drivers-415 [06:32] E: unable to locate package nvidia-drivers-415 [06:33] ah, there's no S in driver-415 [06:33] hmmm [06:33] cryptodan: now it says that it's already installed. [06:34] apt reinstall nvidia-driver-415 then [06:34] says that's not a valid option "reinstall" [06:35] weird it does for me [06:36] I'm running apt 1.6.6 [06:36] what does apt -v give you? [06:37] same [06:37] cbpye: http://dpaste.com/0Y0H31S [06:38] hmm [06:38] cryptodan: I did a re-install of nvidia-driver-415 via package manager. was over WAY too quickly. checking log. [06:40] cryptodan: no error messages in the apt logs. weird. [06:40] going to reboot the machine. [06:42] I give up. Going to try installing via the nvidia binary blob, [06:43] this happened last time I installed kubuntu on this machine. [06:47] cryptodan: well, that was a segfault. [06:47] which was different! [06:47] try reinstalling kubuntu as it might have corrupted [06:48] things like this make me miss Slackware, but I don't have time to maintain a Slackware install these days. [06:49] I use Mint 19.1 and it just works [06:49] I'm trying to recall why I stopped using Mint in the first place. [06:53] ah, that;s why. No KDE version. [06:54] you can still get it [06:55] cbpye: http://dpaste.com/2QPQSNQ [06:56] guess that's the target then. [06:57] I'm going to try disabling EFI boot and see how installation goes. [06:57] maybe that has something to do with it. [06:58] ive got two machines with UEFI running and both install nvidia-driver-415 fine === Versalife_ is now known as Versalife === al2o3-cr is now known as Guest77189 === al2o3-cr-tmp is now known as al2o3-cr === capella is now known as capella|away === jstein_ is now known as jstein [10:11] why is it that I cannot change PS1 in .profile, or .bash_profile? my change gets overridden by the code in /etc/bash.bashrc, which from what I have gathered is only supposed to be run on interactive shells, but my experiment shows it runs always. this is a fresh 18.04 install. [10:21] artie: how do you tell what PS1 is set to in a non-interactive shell? [10:24] and have you considred editing ~/.bashrc? [10:27] tomreyn: is a login shell, also considered an interactive shell? yes, both are interactive, but this is a matter of semantics. Is it correct to identify a login shell, as an interactive shell? [10:28] my real question is why can I not set PS1 on ubuntu using any of the standard bash config files in $HOME. [10:28] it always gets overridden [10:29] tomreyn: .bashrc gets run every time you create a new bash shell... .bash_profile and .profile are one shot on login, which is what I want [10:30] mhmm, works with .bashrc. is it considered a heresy to modify this variable in .profile? hm. [10:31] artie: an interactive shell is one where you have a prompt and enter commands [10:32] tomreyn: is that your opinion, or do you have a source [10:32] this is my interpretation of the word "interactive" [10:33] from latin inter agere [10:33] that was also mine [10:33] until a few moments ago when i started questioning this [10:33] so does .bashrc get run on a login shell too? let me check.. [10:34] it does not [10:34] # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells. [10:34] non-login shell is the correct way to identify them then [10:34] thanks for entertaining this [10:35] what I gather is that the ubuntu devs don't care if: PS1="$ " /bin/bash works [10:35] or don't think it should work. [10:36] so your questions are answered then? [10:36] not quite, I would love to know if this is by design, or if there's a good reason for it. [10:36] i feel like ubuntu is a big enough distro, that there must be a reason. [10:36] "this" being? [10:37] why does: PS1="$ " /bin/bash not set PS1. PS1 is unconditionally set in /etc/bash.bashrc and cannot be changed without editing the user's personal .bashrc file. [10:38] ok, technically it does wrap it in an if statement that detects something about sudo, but that code always gets hit for my use case. [10:38] if you run /bin/bash, you start a new bash process. bash reads ~/.bashrc when it starts, setting PS1. [10:38] that's completely logical [10:39] I think when a user runs a command, he should be able to override any environment variable on the command line. [10:39] you do, until this command read ist configuration file [10:39] *reads its [10:40] funny [10:40] you do have a valid point [10:40] are you aware of any linux distro where this is handled differently? [10:40] every one I have ever used, other than ubuntu. [10:40] infact I think in earlier ubuntu versions, it didn't do this [10:41] i bet they just dont set PS1 in ~/.bashrc then [10:52] how do i restart the gui without shutting down the programs ? [10:55] ph88: explain what you are trying to do please, volunteers can try to think along [10:56] restart the ubuntu gui like restarting explorer.exe in windows [10:56] ph88: which ubuntu release, which window manager [10:56] 18.10 [10:56] stock [10:56] whatever comes by default [10:56] press alt-f2, type 'r', press enter [10:57] this replaces gnome shell === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [11:00] thank you :D [12:33] running on autopilot i deleted a ~100GB folder on my server by mistake, is there any coming back from that? [12:34] !info testdisk | ErgoProxy sudo photorec [12:34] ErgoProxy sudo photorec: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool, and PhotoRec file recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0-3build2 (bionic), package size 391 kB, installed size 1530 kB [12:34] Hi! Who knows the name of the program that is started after login at the frist boot after a dist upgrade (16.04 -> 18.04)? It showed some changes of the desktop usage. [12:35] thanks lotuspsychje will give it a look [12:35] ErgoProxy: you can recover the data with photorec after the testdisk install [12:35] ErgoProxy: to speed up things, you can choose filetypes in photorec too [12:36] I can just run it direct in ssh? [12:36] innerand: is it gdm3 you need? can you explain a bit more of whats happening? [12:37] ErgoProxy: photorec runs from terminal, so that should work [12:37] just running it now *fingers crossed* [12:37] ErgoProxy: also save the recovered data on another HD right [12:38] only got one drive in the server and its only one partition T_T [12:39] ErgoProxy: hmm that might be a bad idea, recovering it to the same partition [12:39] lotuspsychje: I made a dist upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04. At the first login differences of the desktop usage were shown (I guess differences Unity / Gnome3). I would like to run it again on the next login so that it is shown to the actual user. [12:41] innerand: with the LTS upgrade from 16.04, unity comes along by default too, so its normal you have both gnome(worg-wayland) and unity at login window [12:41] innerand: do you want to automatic login? [12:46] No, I'd like to see the "What's new" introductin again. [12:47] innerand: the ubuntu welcome window? [12:48] innerand: probably: rm ~/.config/gnome-initial-setup-done [12:55] Hi. I'm on Ubuntu. Can I get docker processes to run as my user, and not the root user? [12:56] "Warning: Do not store the recovered files on the source filesystem. Otherwise lost data may be overwritten and [12:56] definitively lost." [12:56] hmm [12:56] to do or not to do [12:56] ErgoProxy: not to [12:56] ah [12:56] alright [12:56] ErgoProxy: you need another media to recover to [12:57] yeah, seems the be the case [12:57] 'tis life [12:57] never the less, thank you for your support lotuspsychje [12:57] :) [12:57] you are welcome ErgoProxy hope you get all files back [12:58] Industrial: have you tryed the #docker channel, for deeper docker questions [13:03] Does any know how to manually backup whole keyring folder and remove unwanted keyring ? I tried with Y PPA Manager but it doesn't work , as it's not listed at Y ppa manager but on trusted.gpg.d [13:05] nbusrone: you want to backup all the keys known to apt ? === mkv is now known as m4v [13:10] TJ- : yeh as you mention create a separate /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/my-trusted.gp [13:12] nbusrone: you can use "apt-key adv ..." to do various underlying gpg operations. [13:12] TJ- : it's hard to delete every 40 ppa. Maybe backup and restore ? [13:13] TJ- : I am using "apt-key del " but it only shows key was deleted [13:16] TJ- : Somehow , it's getting weird , using Y ppa manager only shows I have 18 ppa but using this command shows I still have over 80ls /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d | wc -l [13:16] nbusrone: if the PPA keys are correctly installed they are simply one-key-per-file in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ so removing the file is all you need to do [13:16] nbusrone: you can check what the default keyring contains with " gpg2 --list-keys --no-default-keyring --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg " [13:17] nbusrone: I presume you're trying to fix the issue of too many keys we identified yesterday? [13:18] TJ- : yeh , fixing by removing 80 keys.I doubt most application with ppa still have updates on old Trusty build.Only a few know. [13:21] TJ- : default keyring https://pastebin.com/NqJR2DNC [13:23] nbusrone: looks like Opera added to the default keyring [13:23]