[07:41] <k_alam> jbicha: Hi, Good morning
[07:44] <didrocks> good morning and happy new year
[07:46] <duflu> Hi there didrocks
[07:51] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:55] <jibel> Good morning everyone and happy new year!
[07:55] <didrocks> happy new year jibel!
[07:58] <duflu> And happy new year jibel and didrocks
[07:59] <jibel> Hi duflu didrocks
[08:10] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers!
[08:10] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN
[08:10] <jibel> Hi oSoMoN
[08:10] <oSoMoN> hey didrocks, jibel
[08:15] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[08:15] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[08:15] <clobrano> Morning everyone 0/
[08:15] <clobrano> Happy new year
[08:18] <didrocks> hey clobrano, happy new year to you too!
[09:01] <Laney> HEY BUDDIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:02] <didrocks> morning Laney!with-a-lot-of-exclamation-marks ;)
[09:03] <seb128> hey hey hey, good morning desktopers and happy new year
[09:03] <jamesh> morning seb128
[09:04] <oSoMoN> salut seb128 !
[09:04] <oSoMoN> hey Laney !
[09:04] <willcooke> hi all
[09:04] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[09:04] <oSoMoN> hey willcooke
[09:08] <seb128> hey willcooke jamesh Laney, re didrocks oSoMoN :)
[09:08] <oSoMoN> hey jamesh
[09:09] <didrocks> re seb128 ;)
[09:09] <didrocks> hey jamesh
[09:09] <Laney> hey didrocks oSoMoN seb128 jamesh clobrano duflu jibel willcooke
[09:09] <Laney> good holidays?
[09:10] <duflu> Hi Laney. Somewhat relaxing, although there's always work to be done. You?
[09:10] <duflu> And hi willcooke
[09:10] <clobrano> hey Laney, didrocks :)
[09:11] <duflu> And hi clobrano and seb128
[09:11] <duflu> Hello world
[09:11] <duflu> goto 10
[09:11] <seb128> did anyone else got Cced on a 'conspiracies and character assassination in the name of Debian?' email?
[09:12] <seb128> (e.g https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2018/12/msg00042.html reposted, I wonder if the guy did try to Cc every @debian.org email or something)
[09:12] <duflu> No. (?)
[09:15] <Laney> Some DDs were saying that got it, but I didn't
[09:15] <Laney> Maybe it went to spam though
[09:15] <Laney> duflu: Good. I've almost learned to do the Rubik's cube
[09:16] <duflu> willcooke, did you expect status reports? :)
[09:16] <seb128> thx
[09:17] <seb128> Laney, did you lean some of those 7 to 10 steps moves that allow to switch or rotate specific cubes? :)
[09:17] <Trevinho> Morning folks!
[09:17] <willcooke> duflu, probably not :)  We'll still do the bug review tomorrow in the meeting though.  If people have anything to add, then there's at least somewhere to add them
[09:17] <duflu> Hi Trevinho
[09:18] <Trevinho> duflu: hey, happy new year!
[09:19] <Laney> seb128: some of them, yeah
[09:19] <Laney> hey Trevinho!
[09:20] <Trevinho> Laney: hey Iano, how are things?
[09:20] <clobrano> hi duflu :)
[09:20] <didrocks> morning Trevinho!
[09:21] <Trevinho> didrocks: you too! :-)
[09:26] <seb128> hey trevinho, clobrano, happy new year!
[09:26] <Trevinho> seb128: hey, you too!
[09:27] <Trevinho> seb128: had good holidays?
[09:27] <seb128> yes, rather nice ones this year! you?
[09:28] <seb128> we only missed out having some snow :/
[09:39] <seb128> bah, my ubuntu-core-dev membership expired during the holidays grrrr
[09:39] <clobrano> seb128: you too :)
[09:40] <seb128> thx launchpad for the daily reminders while I was off work :p
[09:41] <Laney> MUHAHAHAH
[09:41]  * Laney looks forward to sponsoring all your work
[09:41] <Laney> or get didrocks to do it #trailingcommas
[09:42] <seb128> :)
[09:42] <didrocks> and dh_missing --fail-missing :p
[09:42] <didrocks> (should be just --fail now that it's dh_missing and not dh_install btw)
[11:06] <andyrock> good morning!
[11:07] <didrocks> hey andyrock
[12:52] <jbicha> seb128: I can renew your membership. Could you please email developer-membership-board first for our records?
[12:53] <willcooke> Hi jbicha, happy new year!
[12:53] <Laney> hey andyrock jbicha, happy new year
[12:54] <andyrock> happy new year!
[12:54] <Laney> did you have good holidays?
[12:54] <andyrock> yeah too long
[12:54] <andyrock> feels weird to be back :)
[12:54] <andyrock> you?
[12:56] <Laney> you workaholic
[12:56] <Laney> was nice, spent some time by the sea
[12:56] <Laney> (even a tiny bit in the sea)
[12:56] <Laney> ❄
[12:58] <Laney> is there a process for uploading a new yaru? didrocks / clobrano?
[12:58] <seb128> hey jbicha andyrock
[12:58]  * Laney is interested because a fix is needed for new nautilus
[12:58] <seb128> jbicha, shrug, k, I can do that
[12:58] <andyrock> Laney: swimming of skippering? :D
[12:58] <andyrock> *or
[12:59] <clobrano> Laney: do you mean the deb package or snap?
[12:59] <Laney> walking
[12:59] <clobrano> or both :D
[12:59] <Laney> clobrano: deb
[13:00] <clobrano> Laney: ok, then didrocks knows it best :)
[13:00] <clobrano> Laney: is it the fix already in master or is it a new content?
[13:01] <Laney> it's there already
[13:03] <Laney> just need to get it in
[13:07] <clobrano> it looks like that, so far, all the content came from master branch, just tagged and released
[13:08] <clobrano> I meant, there is no special branch for deb
[13:08] <Laney> nod
[13:09] <Laney> if that's the process I can do that, someone would just need to get the tag from me
[13:09] <didrocks> clobrano: Laney: nothing defined, just fill changelog, tag, commit and push
[13:11] <Laney> okey
[13:11] <clobrano> Laney: I can tag the commit, if that's what you need
[13:11] <Laney> clobrano: sure, that would be nice, thanks
[13:12] <Laney> would also be good if you could fill in some details in the changelog about what's changed
[13:12] <Laney> might be a lot though, no need for lots of details
[13:12] <clobrano> Laney: that would take a while :D
[13:12]  * clobrano agrees
[13:13] <clobrano> Laney: would the tag be on HEAD or in an older commit?
[13:14] <Laney> if you think that HEAD is good to release to disco, that one would be fine
[13:14] <didrocks> clobrano: I generally file the changelog and tag that commit
[13:15] <clobrano> didrocks: I see
[13:15] <Laney> yah, the tag should point to the same thing that gets uploaded into disco
[13:16] <clobrano> alright, so tagging an older commit would be a mess
[13:16] <Laney> to do that you'd probably branch and then update the changelog on that branch
[13:16] <Laney> but no need if master is bug-free (enough)
[13:16] <clobrano> last release was 22nd of October
[13:17] <clobrano> master would be nice, we added gtk2-dark support
[13:20] <Laney> hmm still looks buggy though, I'll file a bug
[13:20] <clobrano> oh, if that so, yes please
[13:22] <Laney> wait a second
[13:22] <Laney> might have messed up building this :P
[13:23] <Laney> all the dates on the files in my .deb are Oct 22
[13:45] <Laney> ah yeah it was buggy, weird that this worked when the MR was merged
[14:22] <Laney> clobrano: ok let's wait a bit for that bug
[14:26] <jbicha> yay, now seb128 is both the newest and oldest (or close enough) Core Dev
[14:27] <seb128> haha
[14:27] <seb128> thx jbicha :)
[14:28] <jbicha> Łukasz beat me to it :)
[14:29] <seb128> haha
[14:29] <seb128> thx Lukasz! :)
[14:31] <clobrano> Laney: alright
[14:42] <jbicha> Laney: are you able to verify LP: #1807127 easily? installing 18.10 32-bit is a pain 😞
[14:45] <jbicha> seb128: I guess you'll need to directly ask an SRU person to ignore LP: #1778322 to let your gvfs SRU in to bionic
[14:46] <seb128> jbicha, right, I didn't want to push to land a SRU before holidays but I know about it, thx for the reminder though
[14:50] <Laney> jbicha: not particularly - to develop the fixes we used there I wrote a small program which used gnome-desktop and ran it in a container
[14:50] <Laney> some flavours released 32 bit 18.04
[14:51] <Laney> and 18.10
[14:52]  * Laney forgot to eat lunch
[14:52] <Laney> good start to the year
[15:20] <Trevinho> I guess you eat enough during the holidays not to need more food :D
[15:20] <Trevinho> Laney: in my recently upgraded disco VM I have an issue maybe you might help me to debug...
[15:21] <Trevinho> I run it... and....
[15:21] <Trevinho> So it stays... It's not frozen, mouse moves but it's like no user is available for login https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6jSM4W1R/image.png
[15:23] <Trevinho> if I run in this my own gnome-session from jhbuild  and lock the screen, again there's no user in there so I can't unlock..
[15:24] <Trevinho> my gdm log is https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Czp7ykqXXN/
[15:25] <Trevinho> while full log is https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zMGbNGMSTT/
[15:26] <Trevinho> Could be?
[15:26] <Trevinho> gen 07 10:20:07 ubuntu-vmware gdm-launch-environment][1346]: AccountsService: Failed to identify the current session: No data available
[15:29] <Laney> Trevinho: that's probably sd_something returning ENODATA
[15:30] <Laney> sounds like logind issues to me
[15:30] <Laney> does loginctl work properly?
[15:31] <Trevinho> yep
[15:31] <Trevinho> It looks fine to me https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/14Vs7kD5/
[15:31] <Laney> and over dbus?
[15:32] <Trevinho> this is from ssh though, not sure if I can debug it from another place, but...
[15:34] <Laney> something like busctl --system call org.freedesktop.login1 /org/freedesktop/login1 org.freedesktop.login1.Manager GetUserByPID u $$
[15:34] <Laney> that's the kind of call that you can see failing in the logs
[15:34] <Trevinho> `loginctl session-status c1` also seems fine
[15:35] <Laney> loginctl uses a private connection I think, try using dbus normally
[15:35] <Trevinho> Laney: busctl call works fine for me `o "/org/freedesktop/login1/user/_1000"`
[15:35] <Trevinho> not if I'm passing 131 (gdm user)
[15:36] <Trevinho> (PID 131 does not belong to any logged in user or lingering user)
[15:36] <Trevinho> ah, pid, wait
[15:36] <Laney> dunno
[15:36] <Trevinho> `busctl --system call org.freedesktop.login1 /org/freedesktop/login1 org.freedesktop.login1.Manager GetUserByPID u 1797
[15:36] <Trevinho> o "/org/freedesktop/login1/user/_131"`
[15:37] <Trevinho> works fine (1797) is the pid of the gdm ran gnome-shell
[15:37] <Laney> and one of those PIDs that was complaining?
[15:37] <Trevinho> I should probably debug this from g-s to see what's is seeing, or not..
[15:37] <Laney> if they're still around
[15:38] <Trevinho> they're still around
[15:38] <Trevinho> mh, complaining.... who?
[15:39] <Laney> like 1031 is making colord complain in that log
[15:40] <Laney> what is it, does that call work on it and is it in a logind session?
[15:42] <Trevinho> ah, no it's not there anymore
[15:43] <Trevinho> mh, I think colord didn't work much here all the times, but it should not be the problem
[15:44] <Laney> same error there
[15:44] <Laney> try with the PID of AccountsService if you want
[15:46] <Laney> it's normal for some things to not be in login sessions though
[15:46] <Trevinho> o "/org/freedesktop/login1/user/_131"
[15:46] <Trevinho> this is for accountsservice pid
[15:47] <Trevinho> 1346
[15:47] <Trevinho> (gdm-session-worker)
[15:49] <Laney> I think this is all probably a red herring
[15:54] <Trevinho> yeah, could be
[15:54] <Trevinho> mh thanks for the tips, when i've some more time I'll go into the details of the problem by checking at g-s + gdm code
[15:57] <k_alam> Trevinho: Hi, good afternoon, can you review few mr for ftbfs ?
[15:57] <Trevinho> ok, links?
[15:58] <Laney> Trevinho: Jan 04 15:30:57 nightingale gdm-launch-environment][2630]: AccountsService: ActUserManager: calling 'ListCachedUsers'
[15:58] <Laney> this is missing in your log
[15:59] <k_alam> Trevinho: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-scope-calculator/+bug/1810727
[15:59] <k_alam> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-appmenu/+bug/1810655
[16:02] <k_alam> Trevinho: I would also like to non-working scopes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libunity/+bug/1808671, but this requires a motu for gnote-scope as a replacement for tomboy. motu bug is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1810729
[16:16] <k_alam> Trevinho: And please merge this (but don't release), https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1799008, once it lands in disco, I will open another mr to update version for 19.04 , both for greeter and u-c-c, while the above can go through sru.....
[16:16] <k_alam> Another ftbfs is for indicator-application-gtk2, but bzr repo is out of sync...so manually attaching a patch there.
[16:19] <seb128> andyrock, https://trello.com/c/yDdxgCeo/142-upload-mutter-3301-4-to-debian-unstable-with-fix-for-gnome-shell-replace should be moved to done right?
[16:21] <andyrock> seb128: done
[16:21] <andyrock> thx
[16:21] <andyrock> I did not tag myself in that tab and I forgot to update it
[16:22] <seb128> andyrock, thx
[16:26] <seb128> andyrock, the update-notifier fix, do you know why G_SPAWN_DO_NOT_REAP_CHILD was initially being used?
[16:26] <andyrock> andyrock: I guess it was copy pasted from an above line where we actually watch for the subprocess
[16:30] <Laney> yeah DO_NOT_REAP_CHILD without doing something with the child pid is not usually good
[16:30] <seb128> Laney, context is https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/update-notifier/fix-zombie-1809505/+merge/361441
[16:31] <Laney> nod
[16:31] <seb128> but yeah, changes look good to me
[16:31]  * seb128 does +1
[16:31] <Laney> that will indeed result in zombies
[17:50] <Trevinho> k_alam: no need to do this pass to trunk first, let's just do the SRU merging to SRU branches, which I can create if you want
[17:58] <Trevinho> k_alam: I've reproposed the MP and done the bileto at https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3577 need an ubuntu dev for publishing it though
[18:14] <oSoMoN> good night all
[18:17] <willcooke> night all
[19:19] <k_alam> Trevinho: Thanks. Jbicha is sponsoring gnote-scope...Once it uploads I will add it to libunity
[20:11] <ricotz> hi, is disco going to get gnome 3.32?
[21:32] <andyrock> ricotz: yep
[21:44] <ricotz> andyrock, noted :)
[21:45] <andyrock> maybe better to ask seb128 or Laney  too :D