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| cpaelzer | good morning | 06:41 |
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| lordievader | Good morning | 08:14 |
| lotuspsychje | place your details here, volunteers might have a look for you siwica | 08:45 |
| siwica | It seems that the installer for Ubuntu Server 18.04 is buggy. I am always getting an error when creating an lvm volume which seems to be caused by the Python installer script making the size of a volume not a multiple of 512 bytes when specifying a size of 8.6T in my case. | 08:45 |
| lotuspsychje | also be patient, this time of day might be silent :p | 08:45 |
| siwica | Also there seem to be Python 2/Python 3 issues when browsing through the installer output: e.g. '9455779998873b' is passed as an argument to lvcreate, which indicates wrong handling of Python byte strings. | 08:45 |
| siwica | lotuspsychje: Alright, thanks! I think I can probably resolve this by entering the exact number of bytes manually, but this is annoying. | 08:46 |
| lotuspsychje | siwica: if you think you found a bug in the installer, and idea might be using ubuntu-bug yourpackage and see if there exist dupes already for it | 08:51 |
| siwica | Not knowing any source code I suspect these issues were probably created by a Python2 -> Python3 switch. The incorrect calculation of the number of bytes might be caused by the different bahavior of the / operator on ints. | 08:51 |
| siwica | lotuspsychje: Ok, will have a look. Although I never used ubuntu-bug. | 08:52 |
| lotuspsychje | !bug | 08:53 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 08:53 |
| lotuspsychje | see also !partitioning and !lvm siwica | 08:53 |
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| lordievader | I think, my memory is a bit foggy, that I used the alternative server install for 18.04 which did not give any troubles making logical volumes. | 09:36 |
| lotuspsychje | siwica: ^ | 09:36 |
| ahasenack | good morning | 10:54 |
| ahasenack | cpaelzer: rbasak: could one of you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/samba/+git/samba/+merge/361241 please? That untangles samba and ldb in disco and is quicker than me preparing a new merge from debian | 11:06 |
| ahasenack | unless you think that's what I should do (the debian package now contains the fix as well) | 11:07 |
| cpaelzer | ahasenack: I can take a look once I'm done with my first pass on mails | 11:07 |
| ahasenack | thx | 11:07 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: if you beat me to take a look at it let me know | 11:08 |
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| sarnold | trippeh: that's incredible :D nice! | 16:44 |
| rbasak | ahasenack, cpaelzer, kstenerud: taking th logwatch merge review. | 16:49 |
| rbasak | jdstrand: o/ | 16:49 |
| rbasak | jdstrand: can you tell me who will be doing the MIR review for pcre2 please? | 16:50 |
| rbasak | I'm wondering whether to start the PHP transition on the assumption that it will be done this cycle, or if we should defer the PHP transition to next cycle. | 16:50 |
| rbasak | (deferring is OK I think) | 16:50 |
| rbasak | I'm reluctant to start it any later than pretty much now for this cycle as it's expected to be pretty extensive. | 16:51 |
| rbasak | And come to think of it, if we decide to defer we should probably remove php7.3 from the archive this cycle. | 16:52 |
| jdstrand | rbasak: I don't know. it isn't assigned yet. you might ask joe or (ask via the trello card) | 16:57 |
| jdstrand | rbasak: I just added you as a member of the card | 16:57 |
| rbasak | OK. Thanks! | 16:59 |
| coreycb | tobias-urdin: hi, fyi i've switched the sqlalchemy package back to using mysqldb as the default dialect. it has been patched for several releases in ubuntu to use pymysql by default. | 17:21 |
| coreycb | tobias-urdin: this may affect deployments that don't explicitly use connection string config of "mysql+pymysql" | 17:22 |
| rbasak | kstenerud: in https://code.launchpad.net/~kstenerud/ubuntu/+source/logwatch/+git/logwatch/+merge/361073, did you forget to push the tag kstenerud/lp1808319/logical/7.4.3+git20161207-2ubuntu2 ? | 17:24 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: could you please import cabextract? I'm fixing an ftbfs in libmspack, and both libmspack and cabextract are affected and come from the same git repo, as does the fix (https://github.com/kyz/libmspack/commit/c19e707936947b45cf05bc9aaee68517c6c2aca6) | 17:53 |
| ahasenack | cabextract is in universe, but libmspack is in main | 17:53 |
| rbasak | ahasenack: time to take you through how to do it? | 17:59 |
| rbasak | ahasenack: HO? | 17:59 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: sure | 18:03 |
| Intelo | Hi | 18:41 |
| Intelo | What is the likelyhood of recipient marking the email as spam if it says "Hi, Is this Peter Jason?" And the recipient is obviously not Peter.. | 18:45 |
| teward | Intelo: not an Ubuntu Server question | 18:45 |
| teward | by default there's no 'spam' restricting items in play | 18:45 |
| teward | and unless you tune SpamAssassin right it won't care. | 18:45 |
| Intelo | ya | 18:46 |
| Intelo | but talking about 'manual | 18:46 |
| teward | and TYPICALLY there's no checking of intended recipient vs. content | 18:46 |
| teward | Intelo: that's still not an Ubuntu Server question :P | 18:46 |
| Intelo | 'manual marking as spam by user' | 18:46 |
| teward | that's up to the endpoint clients and users. | 18:46 |
| teward | there's no way to state how likely something is for {INSERT_USER_HERE} to do | 18:46 |
| Intelo | ya; discussing user behaviour on this concrete example | 18:46 |
| teward | Intelo: probably belongs in another area, and it's impossible to gauge a quantifiable likelihood | 18:47 |
| Intelo | teward, ok, what about you? would mark it if you get one? | 18:47 |
| teward | Intelo: i'm an IT Security professional, not an average end user. My actions do NOT quantify the average person | 18:47 |
| teward | the fact i'm an IT Security professional probably already answers your question without me giving a direct answer ;P | 18:48 |
| Intelo | so you will mark it :) | 18:48 |
| teward | but again I don't quantify the 'norm' | 18:48 |
| teward | and 90% of mail that isn't intended for me isn't sent to me so :P | 18:49 |
| Intelo | teward, I worked to get some emails and now I am blacklisted while sending mails. | 18:49 |
| teward | can't help you with that probably heh. | 18:49 |
| sarnold | it's pretty common to get mails to mail lists or exploders or something similar | 18:50 |
| Intelo | sarnold, meaning? | 18:50 |
| sarnold | I think it'd be insane to use a greeting as a spam scoring | 18:51 |
| Intelo | sarnold, greeting? | 18:51 |
| teward | Intelo: i think there's a language barrier at play here | 18:52 |
| Intelo | sarnold, are you labeling "HI, Is this peter" a greeting? | 18:52 |
| sarnold | yes | 18:52 |
| Intelo | hm | 18:52 |
| teward | Intelo: "Hi is this ABC" when you are "XYZ" counts technically as a 'greeting' in this play and shouldn't be a spam filter on its own | 18:52 |
| teward | because we get mailing lists, etc. which don't refer to you yourself but you'll receive them | 18:52 |
| Intelo | ok | 18:52 |
| teward | read ANY of the Ubuntu lists and you'll see that :P | 18:52 |
| Intelo | How about 'Hi <correct first name>, I saw your profile on xyz media. I see you have experience in 'exact correct list of his experience' and thought you might be interested in what I do >>> service details or link' | 18:54 |
| teward | that I'd detect with other mechanisms | 18:54 |
| teward | but again, that's more a matter of how you configure your detections | 18:55 |
| teward | and *not* an Ubuntu Server question | 18:55 |
| teward | it's also a question as to how the end users will handle spam marking, which again is not able to be quantified here | 18:55 |
| Intelo | ya. just checking views as a human. Not filters/mechanism | 18:56 |
| Intelo | teward, sarnold how about and how about 'Hi <correct first name>, I saw your profile on xyz media. I see you have experience in 'exact correct list of his experience'. Would you be interested in being our brand embassidor"? | 18:56 |
| teward | *yawns* | 18:56 |
| teward | i'm going to go do something productive now, | 18:57 |
| teward | *returns to what he was doing before* | 18:57 |
| Intelo | teward, Thumbs up | 18:57 |
| sarnold | Intelo: "saw your profile", "you have experience" and "brand ambassador" are all highly suspect phrases. I'd add alerts on those :) | 18:58 |
| Intelo | hm | 18:58 |
| Intelo | sarnold, and if that passed the alerts/filters. Will the human mark it spam? | 18:58 |
| sarnold | most people probably would, yes | 19:00 |
| Intelo | right :( | 19:00 |
| Intelo | Is there a way to deliver a message and still not get marked as spam/blacklisted | 19:00 |
| benharri | don't send spam | 19:01 |
| Intelo | benharri, how about I buy ads on youtube and show that to users? I would pay for it. Will you call that spam? | 19:01 |
| sarnold | that's just advertising. knock yourself out. :) | 19:01 |
| benharri | no because that's advertising | 19:01 |
| Intelo | sarnold, how about "Hi, Is this peter Jason? <p> Regards </p> Tony http://site.com <br /> Youtube video thumbnail | 19:02 |
| Intelo | benharri, I want to send emails to advertise too | 19:03 |
| benharri | just don't | 19:03 |
| Intelo | but nevermind. I get the ideas of community in 2019 | 19:03 |
| benharri | only send mails to people who have requested it | 19:03 |
| Intelo | benharri, any other cost effective ways? | 19:04 |
| benharri | this is off topic for this channel | 19:04 |
| Intelo | benharri, people push flyers in snailmail boxes and newspapers. Snailmail or email ads. its same. Its just that snailmail ads cannot be caught or marked as spam. | 19:04 |
| Intelo | right sarnold ? | 19:05 |
| Intelo | anyone private chat or in #ubuntu-server-offtopic ? | 19:13 |
| tomreyn | Intelo: there is #ubuntu-offtopic | 19:16 |
| tomreyn | oh, looks like you found it | 19:17 |
| teward | Intelo: FYI: if ou intend on using our information to *send* spam, that's against the rules of Freenode and the general Code of Conduct, so you should probably NOT be asking that stuff here or in #ubuntu-offtopic | 19:17 |
| Intelo | ya thanks | 19:18 |
| Intelo | ok | 19:18 |
| Sina | Hi there. Not sure if I'm in the correct channel. I'm trying to install puppet-agent from repo in preseed using following commands on Ubuntu Bionic and get `E: gnupg, gnupg2 and gnupg1 do not seem to bee installed, but one of them is required for this operation`. Seems like to be a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-setup/+bug/1754075 Does anyone here has an appropriate workaround/fix for that? | 19:47 |
| Sina | https://pastebin.com/z7amgs08 | 19:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1754075 in apt-setup (Ubuntu) "apt-setup uses apt-key but probably should not anymore" [High,Confirmed] | 19:47 |
| sarnold | Sina: if you can't get any solutions or workarounds there, you may also consider using cloud images and cloud-init to configure the repos and install packages | 19:58 |
| Sina | sarnold: Thanks for the reply. I can eventually use the `puppet` package from official ubuntu repository and then use puppet itself to uninstall `puppet` and install `puppet-agent`, too. However, I was just being curious I guess. :) | 20:00 |
| sarnold | Sina: ha. I love it. it's horrible but I love it. :) | 20:01 |
| tobias-urdin | coreycb: ack, thanks for the heads up! | 20:44 |
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