=== cpaelzer__ is now known as cpaelzer [06:41] good morning [08:14] Good morning [08:45] place your details here, volunteers might have a look for you siwica [08:45] It seems that the installer for Ubuntu Server 18.04 is buggy. I am always getting an error when creating an lvm volume which seems to be caused by the Python installer script making the size of a volume not a multiple of 512 bytes when specifying a size of 8.6T in my case. [08:45] also be patient, this time of day might be silent :p [08:45] Also there seem to be Python 2/Python 3 issues when browsing through the installer output: e.g. '9455779998873b' is passed as an argument to lvcreate, which indicates wrong handling of Python byte strings. [08:46] lotuspsychje: Alright, thanks! I think I can probably resolve this by entering the exact number of bytes manually, but this is annoying. [08:51] siwica: if you think you found a bug in the installer, and idea might be using ubuntu-bug yourpackage and see if there exist dupes already for it [08:51] Not knowing any source code I suspect these issues were probably created by a Python2 -> Python3 switch. The incorrect calculation of the number of bytes might be caused by the different bahavior of the / operator on ints. [08:52] lotuspsychje: Ok, will have a look. Although I never used ubuntu-bug. [08:53] !bug [08:53] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [08:53] see also !partitioning and !lvm siwica === setuid is now known as setuid|zZZzzetui === setuid|zZZzzetui is now known as setuid|zZZzetuid [09:36] I think, my memory is a bit foggy, that I used the alternative server install for 18.04 which did not give any troubles making logical volumes. [09:36] siwica: ^ [10:54] good morning [11:06] cpaelzer: rbasak: could one of you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/samba/+git/samba/+merge/361241 please? That untangles samba and ldb in disco and is quicker than me preparing a new merge from debian [11:07] unless you think that's what I should do (the debian package now contains the fix as well) [11:07] ahasenack: I can take a look once I'm done with my first pass on mails [11:07] thx [11:08] rbasak: if you beat me to take a look at it let me know === setuid|zZZzetuid is now known as setuid === tobias-urdin is now known as tobias-urdin_afk === tobias-urdin_afk is now known as tobias-urdin === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo [16:44] trippeh: that's incredible :D nice! [16:49] ahasenack, cpaelzer, kstenerud: taking th logwatch merge review. [16:49] jdstrand: o/ [16:50] jdstrand: can you tell me who will be doing the MIR review for pcre2 please? [16:50] I'm wondering whether to start the PHP transition on the assumption that it will be done this cycle, or if we should defer the PHP transition to next cycle. [16:50] (deferring is OK I think) [16:51] I'm reluctant to start it any later than pretty much now for this cycle as it's expected to be pretty extensive. [16:52] And come to think of it, if we decide to defer we should probably remove php7.3 from the archive this cycle. [16:57] rbasak: I don't know. it isn't assigned yet. you might ask joe or (ask via the trello card) [16:57] rbasak: I just added you as a member of the card [16:59] OK. Thanks! [17:21] tobias-urdin: hi, fyi i've switched the sqlalchemy package back to using mysqldb as the default dialect. it has been patched for several releases in ubuntu to use pymysql by default. [17:22] tobias-urdin: this may affect deployments that don't explicitly use connection string config of "mysql+pymysql" [17:24] kstenerud: in https://code.launchpad.net/~kstenerud/ubuntu/+source/logwatch/+git/logwatch/+merge/361073, did you forget to push the tag kstenerud/lp1808319/logical/7.4.3+git20161207-2ubuntu2 ? [17:53] rbasak: could you please import cabextract? I'm fixing an ftbfs in libmspack, and both libmspack and cabextract are affected and come from the same git repo, as does the fix (https://github.com/kyz/libmspack/commit/c19e707936947b45cf05bc9aaee68517c6c2aca6) [17:53] cabextract is in universe, but libmspack is in main [17:59] ahasenack: time to take you through how to do it? [17:59] ahasenack: HO? [18:03] rbasak: sure [18:41] Hi [18:45] What is the likelyhood of recipient marking the email as spam if it says "Hi, Is this Peter Jason?" And the recipient is obviously not Peter.. [18:45] Intelo: not an Ubuntu Server question [18:45] by default there's no 'spam' restricting items in play [18:45] and unless you tune SpamAssassin right it won't care. [18:46] ya [18:46] but talking about 'manual [18:46] and TYPICALLY there's no checking of intended recipient vs. content [18:46] Intelo: that's still not an Ubuntu Server question :P [18:46] 'manual marking as spam by user' [18:46] that's up to the endpoint clients and users. [18:46] there's no way to state how likely something is for {INSERT_USER_HERE} to do [18:46] ya; discussing user behaviour on this concrete example [18:47] Intelo: probably belongs in another area, and it's impossible to gauge a quantifiable likelihood [18:47] teward, ok, what about you? would mark it if you get one? [18:47] Intelo: i'm an IT Security professional, not an average end user. My actions do NOT quantify the average person [18:48] the fact i'm an IT Security professional probably already answers your question without me giving a direct answer ;P [18:48] so you will mark it :) [18:48] but again I don't quantify the 'norm' [18:49] and 90% of mail that isn't intended for me isn't sent to me so :P [18:49] teward, I worked to get some emails and now I am blacklisted while sending mails. [18:49] can't help you with that probably heh. [18:50] it's pretty common to get mails to mail lists or exploders or something similar [18:50] sarnold, meaning? [18:51] I think it'd be insane to use a greeting as a spam scoring [18:51] sarnold, greeting? [18:52] Intelo: i think there's a language barrier at play here [18:52] sarnold, are you labeling "HI, Is this peter" a greeting? [18:52] yes [18:52] hm [18:52] Intelo: "Hi is this ABC" when you are "XYZ" counts technically as a 'greeting' in this play and shouldn't be a spam filter on its own [18:52] because we get mailing lists, etc. which don't refer to you yourself but you'll receive them [18:52] ok [18:52] read ANY of the Ubuntu lists and you'll see that :P [18:54] How about 'Hi , I saw your profile on xyz media. I see you have experience in 'exact correct list of his experience' and thought you might be interested in what I do >>> service details or link' [18:54] that I'd detect with other mechanisms [18:55] but again, that's more a matter of how you configure your detections [18:55] and *not* an Ubuntu Server question [18:55] it's also a question as to how the end users will handle spam marking, which again is not able to be quantified here [18:56] ya. just checking views as a human. Not filters/mechanism [18:56] teward, sarnold how about and how about 'Hi , I saw your profile on xyz media. I see you have experience in 'exact correct list of his experience'. Would you be interested in being our brand embassidor"? [18:56] *yawns* [18:57] i'm going to go do something productive now, [18:57] *returns to what he was doing before* [18:57] teward, Thumbs up [18:58] Intelo: "saw your profile", "you have experience" and "brand ambassador" are all highly suspect phrases. I'd add alerts on those :) [18:58] hm [18:58] sarnold, and if that passed the alerts/filters. Will the human mark it spam? [19:00] most people probably would, yes [19:00] right :( [19:00] Is there a way to deliver a message and still not get marked as spam/blacklisted [19:01] don't send spam [19:01] benharri, how about I buy ads on youtube and show that to users? I would pay for it. Will you call that spam? [19:01] that's just advertising. knock yourself out. :) [19:01] no because that's advertising [19:02] sarnold, how about "Hi, Is this peter Jason?

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Youtube video thumbnail [19:03] benharri, I want to send emails to advertise too [19:03] just don't [19:03] but nevermind. I get the ideas of community in 2019 [19:03] only send mails to people who have requested it [19:04] benharri, any other cost effective ways? [19:04] this is off topic for this channel [19:04] benharri, people push flyers in snailmail boxes and newspapers. Snailmail or email ads. its same. Its just that snailmail ads cannot be caught or marked as spam. [19:05] right sarnold ? [19:13] anyone private chat or in #ubuntu-server-offtopic ? [19:16] Intelo: there is #ubuntu-offtopic [19:17] oh, looks like you found it [19:17] Intelo: FYI: if ou intend on using our information to *send* spam, that's against the rules of Freenode and the general Code of Conduct, so you should probably NOT be asking that stuff here or in #ubuntu-offtopic [19:18] ya thanks [19:18] ok [19:47] Hi there. Not sure if I'm in the correct channel. I'm trying to install puppet-agent from repo in preseed using following commands on Ubuntu Bionic and get `E: gnupg, gnupg2 and gnupg1 do not seem to bee installed, but one of them is required for this operation`. Seems like to be a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-setup/+bug/1754075 Does anyone here has an appropriate workaround/fix for that? [19:47] https://pastebin.com/z7amgs08 [19:47] Launchpad bug 1754075 in apt-setup (Ubuntu) "apt-setup uses apt-key but probably should not anymore" [High,Confirmed] [19:58] Sina: if you can't get any solutions or workarounds there, you may also consider using cloud images and cloud-init to configure the repos and install packages [20:00] sarnold: Thanks for the reply. I can eventually use the `puppet` package from official ubuntu repository and then use puppet itself to uninstall `puppet` and install `puppet-agent`, too. However, I was just being curious I guess. :) [20:01] Sina: ha. I love it. it's horrible but I love it. :) [20:44] coreycb: ack, thanks for the heads up!