[00:00] <volty> Switch on and no video signal, no other signs of life except the fan.
[00:00] <volty> After hours of trying, I came with the idea of googling for ubuntu bios corrupt after installation, and found that it happens with some computers since version 17.
[00:00] <pikia> ahh thank you OerHeks
[00:01] <IniGit> hi
[00:03] <IniGit> when I delete a file it goes to the .trash-1000 folder of that drive, correct? When I open the trash of my Ubuntu Dekstop it seems it shows all files from all .Trash-1000 folders on all drives. How can I know the path of a file before  I restore it?
[00:03] <IniGit> Properties do not show anything
[00:09] <pragmaticenigma> IniGit: Within the trash folder structure is the meta data, kept separate from the actual file. There is no method from within the file manager to see this.
[00:10] <IniGit> pragmaticenigma: Which directory/files do contain the metadata?
[00:11] <IniGit> ah I see, but in that case you have to search every ssd for that file in the .Trash-1000 directory in case you are not sure where it comes from
[00:11] <IniGit> :|
[00:11] <pragmaticenigma> IniGit: That is correct
[00:12] <IniGit> pragmaticenigma: thank you
[00:13] <pragmaticenigma> IniGit: There may be plugins for Nautilus that would enable the option to read the meta data of the trash folder when viewing the properties. I have not seen a plugin, never had the need before
[00:16] <IniGit> pragmaticenigma: ok thank you. I was just curious how the trash works, I do not necessarily need that function
[00:24] <Goop> I've got a computer I'm letting my friend borrow, which I can SSH into. I want to pull a prank on him by opening up a goofy page in the web browser. The thing is, any command I run won
[00:24] <Goop> won't be run with graphics, but I need the command to be run on graphics on the monitor.
[00:26] <aleksa123987> anyone here familiar with django cors policy ?
[00:26] <Goop> aleksa123987, got a link?
[00:27] <Goop> aleksa123987, didn't django create Luasocket?
[00:28] <aleksa123987> Goop: oh i am not in a django chat i just realised that, but i am trying to send ajax request it keeps geting denied because of cors policy
[00:29] <aleksa123987> Goop: can you help or should i switch to django chat :D ?
[00:29] <Kumool> gosh, we get a lot of questions in #xubuntu by unregistered users
[00:29] <Goop> aleksa123987, I would suggest taking advantage of both chats. Why settle for one?
[00:30] <aleksa123987> Goop: good point
[00:31] <stevie> what's the difference between apt and apt-get install
[00:31] <stevie> i've always used apt-get
[00:32] <OerHeks> apt is the new way, since systemd is introduced, but apt-get is still valid
[00:32] <Goop> stevie, apt-get is not supported in earlier version of Ubuntu. apt is just a shorthand of them.
[00:32] <OerHeks> ..not?
[00:33] <Goop> OerHeks, apt-get is still valid, you are correct.
[00:33] <Goop> I get in the habit of using apt-get because that's what I'm used to, and if I ever encounter a system that doesn't support the shorthand, I'm good.
[00:33] <Goop> Stupid reason, but I'm going with it.
[00:43] <stevie> oh ok
[00:49] <pragmaticenigma> Goop: "apt" and "apt-get" are not the same. They are to very different applications. The purpose of "apt" is to provide a friendlier interface for package management. Many of the function from the older "apt-get" and it's supporting programs were carried over in the commands used, but handle things very differently. "apt-get" and it's other commands will eventually be removed from Ubuntu
[00:50] <Kumool> high xorg usage http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ch8RYN8yfM/ xorg log http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2mkmk5n6s5/  any clue as to why?
[00:53] <pragmaticenigma> Kumool: without a point of reference, there isn't a supportable way to answer your question. Lots of things affect xorg, video drivers, keyboard and mouse input, and much more. What behaviors, if any are you experiencing are more beneficial than dumps of running processes and a log file with no context
[00:55] <Kumool> not me, trying to help someone on #xubuntu, nobody wants to register it seems :S
[00:56] <pragmaticenigma> help by proxy is no help at all, if they're unwilling to register then that's on them
[00:57] <Kumool> you're right, however if your Xorg is using all your CPU, its darn hard to do anything at all
[00:58] <Kumool> bah, left
[00:58] <Kumool> well, that's the last time i try to help by proxy
[00:58] <Kumool> thanks for trying pragma
[00:58] <pragmaticenigma> best advice is for someone to back track what they last did, it's almost always the last piece of software or settings change they made
[00:59] <Kumool> he said he updated from 16 to 18.04
[01:02] <pragmaticenigma> Kumool: when I hear that, I typically save the time and energy and recommend they just start from scratch
[01:02] <bscabl> I have a question I can not seem to find on google [reliably]. I'm trying to find a gui services manager for 18.10. I've been searching for hours with no luck and the old faithfuls seem to not work
[01:03] <pragmaticenigma> bscabl: There are none at this time, what are you trying to manage?
[01:04] <bscabl> >prag: everything really. I'm rusty as heck because I haven't used *nix on a production machine in years.. and 18.10, while smooth, is so "apple like" .. it doesn't let you control anything but basics.
[01:04] <bscabl> but that explains why i cant find one lol
[01:05] <bscabl> even my irc is out of date.. apparently its just tab now :P
[01:05] <pragmaticenigma> bscabl: most, if not all system services are now managed by the simple "systemctrl" commands
[01:06] <pragmaticenigma> bscabl: pardon, systemctl commands
[01:06] <bscabl> pragmaticenigma: seems so backwards. I mean.. it's not like I can't refresh my memory and use them but I do miss having it all in one place.
[01:06] <bscabl> but, to appeal to the masses and make sure they dont break anything..
[01:07] <pragmaticenigma> bscabl: They are all in one place though. I can restart, stop, disable, enable any service with a simple "systemctl disable apache2.service"
[01:07] <bscabl> Well, yea.. true.. its somewhat more complex though. It's just nice to know I'm not crazy.. all this searching and I found nothing
[01:09] <pragmaticenigma> bscabl: It's not about breaking things or appealing to the masses. Efforts are currently to centralize many of the bits and pieces of yesteryear into coherent management applications. The place that starts is with terminal. With time, I'm certain someone will come up with GUI tools to help. That's the majority of the reason for many of the changes. An attempt to streamline system management with tools rather than one off
[01:09] <pragmaticenigma> applications
[01:10] <bscabl> pragmaticenigma: yea, that makes sense. its logical.
[01:27] <babuloseo> hi guys
[01:27] <babuloseo> how to fix this error
[01:27] <babuloseo> https://imgur.com/a/57IxHxr
[01:29] <pragmaticenigma> babuloseo: wait for awhile, run "sudo apt update" and see if it happens again
[01:34] <babuloseo> what if it does
[01:35] <tomreyn> babuloseo: you added a ppa but not its GPG key. according to https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers you can add this key using: curl 'https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?fingerprint=on&op=index&search=0x5ABCE68FF4633EA42E219156957D2708A03A4626' | sudo apt-key import -
[01:35] <babuloseo> so what
[01:35] <babuloseo> are the correct steps
[01:35] <babuloseo> to installing this
[01:35] <OerHeks> how did you add the ppa?
[01:35] <babuloseo> I just followed the commands
[01:35] <babuloseo> anyway
[01:35] <tomreyn> babuloseo: the correct steps are listed at https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[01:36] <babuloseo> I am not the one with the problem
[01:36] <babuloseo> a friend of mine is
[01:36] <OerHeks> he seems to have a network problem
[01:45] <pragmaticenigma> babuloseo: also, I wouldn't recommend that ppa... unless you or your friend have indepth knowledge about it. PPAs are not controlled or maintained by Canonical or Ubuntu
[01:45] <babuloseo> both the padoka
[01:45] <babuloseo> and oibaf ppa aint working
[01:45] <babuloseo> for him
[01:46] <hggdh> babuloseo: please, one full sentence per line
[01:46] <pragmaticenigma> babuloseo: If you are looking for proprietary drivers... the PPA that I use is https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa which is run by the same team (though unsupported) as the drivers that are included within Ubuntu's own software channels
[01:53] <babuloseo> thank you pragmaticenigma
[02:27] <Synx_hm> Q: Order of operations, how or is it even possible to pass the resolution of an environment var down a level, example 'sudo echo $HOME' returns the home of the user executing the sudo not the home or user root
[02:31] <Synx_hm> looks like i need to spawn a subshell or just revert to using '~user' syntax
[02:34] <Kumool> if ubuntu doesnt support 32 bit anymore and xubuntu and lubuntu does, who manages these repos?
[02:34] <Kumool> is it ubuntu?
[02:35] <bobdobbs> I'm trying to update php packages on my ubuntu 14.04 server.  When I try to install them via apt, this happens: https://hastebin.com/ipabixexir.rb
[02:36] <bobdobbs> I've already run 'apt-get install --fix-missing' a few times. I get the same results.
[02:37] <Ichimusai> bobdobbs: Can you ping the repo address?
[02:37] <Ichimusai> bobdobbs: It seems your system cant connect to it for some reason
[02:38] <bobdobbs> If I ping ppa.launchpad.net from that same server I get ping replies
[02:38] <bobdobbs> oh, maybe the packages aren't there?
[02:38] <bobdobbs> The packages are indeed there. From my local computer I can download them via my browser
[02:39] <bobdobbs> I'll see if I can download them with wget from the problem server...
[02:39] <Ichimusai> Okay, is that the same computer you are attempting to install from?
[02:39] <Ichimusai> Or rather install TO
[02:39] <bobdobbs> no. I'm shelled in to the server from my desktop
[02:39] <Ichimusai> I see. Do you have IPv6 enavled on the server?
[02:40] <bobdobbs> I don't think so. I'll check.
[02:40] <jexmex> Evening guys/gals
[02:40] <Ichimusai> I have some times had issues with IPv6, though working, confusing the apt-get system somewhat.
[02:41] <bobdobbs> Ichimusai: ipv6 appears to be enabled.
[02:41] <Ichimusai> Try disabling this temporarily and see if that helps.
[02:41] <bobdobbs> k
[02:41] <jexmex> So I have been having freeze up issues that I think is related to my laptops integrated intel video card, I have already turned off hardware scanning in grub, which seemed to help, but I still have the problems
[02:43] <jexmex> I have 8gb of memory, but I always have a lot of things open (vagrant, 2 idea ide, 2 chrome profiles, mysql workbench, among others.
[02:43] <jexmex> One thing is, I am running elementary OS and I did not setup a swap partition
[02:44] <Ichimusai> jexmex: Are you actually getting memory starvation though?
[02:44] <jexmex> So I figured it is worth a shot to setup a swap partition or swap file, although even rebooting into gparted live I cannot unmount the only drive I have
[02:45] <jexmex> How can I easily setup a swap partition or file?
[02:45] <Ichimusai> jexmex: You can start by setting up a swap file first and see if thats the issue
[02:45] <bobdobbs> Ichimusai: I've disabled ipv6 and run 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade' again. I'm still unable to get the packages
[02:46] <jexmex> Ichimusai, I am not 100% sure, it seems to happen at random, sometimes I can got 3+ days without a lockup, other times it can be within an hour
[02:46] <bobdobbs> Ichimusai: I can get the target packages using wget from my here on my local deskop, but not from the server. On the server wget reports 'connection refused'
[02:46] <Ichimusai> bobdobbs: Okay, its weird because it gets the other files fine but then runs into trouble.
[02:46] <Ichimusai> bobdobbs: Yes, something is preventing that. Firewall on port 443 is ok?
[02:46] <jexmex> I had an error my logs before which pointed me to the video driver, but not that I have disabled PSR it still happens, just less often
[02:47] <jexmex> I have not been able to find a log entry for when it happens now
[02:47] <Ichimusai> bobdobbs: But if nothing else you can always download the packs, then install them manually on the server after uploading them I guess...
[02:47] <jexmex> so I figured first part would be to try creating some swap space
[02:47] <jexmex> but IDK how to do easily do that after install
[02:48] <bobdobbs> Ichimusai: I really don't want to do that. I want apt to do the work. I'll just break stuff otherwise.
[02:48] <jexmex> I am still shaky on my knowledge on linux when it comes to more advance things like this
[02:48] <Ichimusai> jexmex: Well, create a swap file if you want to try it out. If that seems to solve it, then use resize2fs to shrink one of your file systems to get some free space which you can then set up a swap partition on.
[02:48] <Ichimusai> bobdobbs: I feel your pain man.
[02:48] <bobdobbs> Ichimusai: more info: from the remote server, I can reach launchpad.net using lynx.
[02:48] <jexmex> Ichimusai, any recommendations on a guide to help me through setting up a swap file?
[02:48] <Ichimusai> bobdobbs: Could be certificate issues perhaps?
[02:48] <bobdobbs> Ichimusai: how so?
[02:49] <Ichimusai> jexmex: dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/swap-8GB BS=1M count=8192
[02:49] <Ichimusai> jexmex: Then when the file is created run mkswap /var/swap-8GB
[02:49] <jexmex> thanks Ichimusai
[02:50] <guiverc> !elementary | jexmex
[02:50] <Ichimusai> jexmex: Then swapon /var/swap-8GB and it should add it to the virtual memory pool
[02:50] <jexmex> I tried using mkwap before but it kept complaining about the file I created, so I really appreciate it
[02:50] <Ichimusai> bobdobbs: I'm a bit grasping at straws to be honest.
[02:51] <Ichimusai> jexmex: Make sure you sudo or is root.
[02:51] <bobdobbs> Ichimusai: maybe launchpad thinks my server is suspicious for some reason. Maybe I should just wait for a whie
[02:51] <bobdobbs> *while
[02:51] <Ichimusai> bobdobbs: But it allows you to dowload a bunch first, then stops half-way through. I don't really get that.
[02:52] <jexmex> ubottu, thank I figured they had their own, but I had not double checked, it seems to be a less used distro or atleast has less info online about it. I did know it was a ubuntu derivative and honestly I have been super happy with it besides the lack of settings and other tools, and their AppCentre is pretty limited so you end up using apt a lot
[02:52] <Ichimusai> And launchpad should not be that suspicious really.
[02:53] <jexmex> hmm Ichimusai: craig@element:~$ dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/swap-8GB BS=1M count=8192
[02:53] <jexmex> dd: unrecognized operand ‘BS=1M’
[02:53] <Ichimusai> sorry bs not BS (block size)
[02:53] <jexmex> ahh ok
[02:53] <Ichimusai> and you need to be root
[02:53] <Ichimusai> or sudo
[02:54] <jexmex> next thing I was going to ask about, was not sure how that worked with a file that would be used for swap
[02:55] <OerHeks> maybe elementary OS uses swapfile these days too
[02:56] <jexmex> ok all good, no need to reboot?
[02:56] <jexmex> also is there any performance or other issues of using a swap file vs a swap partition/
[02:56] <Ichimusai> check with command free. You should see your increased vmem
[02:56] <Ichimusai> Yes, it is slower than a partition.
[02:57] <Ichimusai> Of course if you did mkswap and swapon first.
[02:57] <jexmex>               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
[02:57] <jexmex> Mem:        8049604     1696804      164176      292812     6188624     5754016
[02:57] <jexmex> Swap:      10485752           0    10485752
[02:57] <jexmex> looks like I have 10gb of swap, which is strange
[02:58] <Ichimusai> You have 10 GB of swap so the system already had 2GB from before.
[02:58] <OerHeks> LoLz ..
[02:59] <jexmex> I have a feeling I am going to be back to diagnosing this problem still. I had the same issue with mint (but not windows) so maybe it is all just a byproduct of the video driver issue that I thought I fixed
[02:59] <Ichimusai> You can check your swaps from # cat /proc/swaps
[02:59] <Ichimusai> Yeah I think its the best bet.
[03:00] <jexmex> ya I have a 2gb /swapfile
[03:00] <jexmex> plus the 8gb file
[03:00] <Ichimusai> There you go.
[03:01] <Ichimusai> I'm going to bed. Nite nite. It 4 am here.
[03:01] <jexmex> I guess elementary set that file up on install, unless I forgetting about setting it up
[03:01] <jexmex> Thanks for your help Ichimusai
[03:02] <jexmex> I guess I now get to try to do video driver builds from intel lol
[03:02] <Ichimusai> Check which one is recommended for your video card first, then install the right one.
[03:03] <OerHeks> intel is pretty good supported in the kernel
[03:03] <jexmex> I will dig through to see what actual intel gpu is in this thing, never worried about it much before
[03:05] <jexmex> lspci: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display (rev 0e)
[03:05] <jexmex> so will look into that
[03:05] <jexmex> thanks again, appreciate you taking the time to help
[03:05] <jexmex> About to just buy a new laptop
[03:23] <jexmex> The first time I thought I fixed it (went about 3 days without a lockup) it is because I added the command to disable hardware scanning to the grub conf. This is my grub command line: (GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.enable_psr=0")
[03:26] <mnathani> Whats the best way to setup centralized users / shared home partition across multiple boxes? Some kind of Windows AD LDAP backed User Db?
[03:27] <leftyfb> mnathani: try #ubuntu-offtopic. Also, best is subjective.
[03:31] <mnathani> leftyfb: k, thanks
[03:34] <Wulframn> I am unable to boot into my encrypted Ubuntu installation on my Surface Pro 3 because my type cover is not recognized by the system until after the boot sequence. I have Googled a fix, but need to modify a file on the install. Can I chroot from the LiveUSB to do this? If not, can I reinstall and then, before rebooting, use the current live environment to modify the file?
[03:39] <devslash> when i do apt list | grep enpass it shows 3 different version of enpass installed but I cannot seem to remove any of them with apt-get which says that its not installed
[03:39] <epicmetal> So did the Gnome memory leak bugfix get packported to 18.04?
[03:39] <epicmetal> backported*
[03:40] <epicmetal> Currently I'm running 18.10 with no problems. Just curious
[03:42] <devslash> i dunno what to do
[03:42] <devslash> i know that the old version of this app is installed because i can still run it
[03:42] <devslash> but according to apt-get it isnt
[03:47] <devslash> can anyone help me
[03:48] <devslash> i have a package that ubuntu wont let me remove
[03:49] <SlidingHorn> devslash: what is the application?  How exactly did you install it?
[03:50] <devslash> enpass through apt-get
[03:50] <devslash> apt list | grep enpass shows 3 different version
[03:50] <SlidingHorn> devslash: enpass isn't an available application in the repos - is this a PPA?
[03:51] <devslash> yea
[03:51] <devslash> their site has you add a ppa then install it
[03:51] <devslash> using apt-get
[03:51] <SlidingHorn> devslash: you'll have to contact the maintainer.  PPAs are 3rd party software and aren't supported here
[03:51] <devslash> the developer
[03:51] <devslash> of tghe software
[03:52] <devslash> ?
[03:52] <coltkirk> i havent used ubuntu in maybe 6 years, but I'm coming back to it tonight
[03:52] <devslash> \https://www.enpass.io/support/how-to-install-enpass-on-linux/
[03:52] <devslash> https://www.enpass.io/support/how-to-install-enpass-on-linux/
[03:52] <SlidingHorn> devslash: yes, the developer.
[03:52] <devslash> it has you add a repo then get the key
[03:52] <devslash> its an ubuntu issue
[03:52] <devslash> not the devs problem
[03:52] <SlidingHorn> devslash: yes, that's how PPAs work.  They're 3rd party and not supportedc
[03:52] <SlidingHorn> !ppa | devslash
[03:53] <devslash> i want to remove it
[03:55] <devslash> ok ivegot another problem
[03:55] <devslash> the icon for the app is still on the dock in ubuntu 18.10 and i cant remove
[03:55] <devslash> it
[03:56] <Kumool> coltkirk: sounds like a terrible idea
[03:56] <SlidingHorn> devslash: you're continually asking about unsupported 3rd party software.  We have no way of knowing how the developer might have incorrectly configured their build.  You need to contac them
[03:56] <devslash> not an option right now
[03:56] <devslash> this is an ubuntu issue
[03:56] <SlidingHorn> devslash: no, it isn't.
[03:56] <devslash> i figued out what was going on
[03:57] <devslash> the softweare is bnot installed
[03:57] <devslash> the software is not installed
[03:57] <devslash> therefore, nothing to contact them about
[03:57] <devslash> this is an ubuntu issue with the dock being messed up
[03:57] <SlidingHorn> devslash: how did you uninstall it?
[03:57] <devslash> apt-get remove
[03:58] <SlidingHorn> devslash: please paste the output from that
[03:58] <SlidingHorn> (to a pastebin)
[03:58] <devslash> i closedthe terminal window already
[03:58] <SlidingHorn> devslash: then get it from your apt history log
[03:58] <devslash> apt list | grep enpass shows nothing
[03:58] <devslash> its not installed
[03:58] <SlidingHorn> devslash: yeah, you said that before when it "was" installed, so I honestly don't believe you.  Show me the apt log.
[03:59] <devslash> well it is not installed
[03:59] <devslash> period
[03:59] <devslash> you dont have to belive me but it isnt
[03:59] <SlidingHorn> devslash: show me the apt log of its removal
[04:01] <devslash> https://pastebin.com/9vanare1
[04:01] <devslash> see ? I have been right all along
[04:01] <devslash> last entry in history.log
[04:02] <SlidingHorn> devslash: okay, so, the issue is that there's still an icon in your "dock"?  Which DE and dock are you using
[04:02] <devslash> yes
[04:02] <devslash> the default ubuntu dock
[04:03] <SlidingHorn> devslash: here you go: https://askubuntu.com/a/721840/474173
[04:04] <devslash> neither of those 2 things work
[04:04] <devslash> autoremove didnt remove anything. i tried that already earlier
[04:04] <devslash> theres no desktop shortcut in that location
[04:05] <SlidingHorn> devslash: try in ~/.local/share or ~/.local/share/applications
[04:06] <devslash> brb gues you need to log off for it to take effect
[04:08] <devslash> hey so that seemeed to have done the trick, manually deleting the desktop file from ~/.local/share/applications
[04:09] <SlidingHorn> devslash: glad it worked out for you
[04:11] <devslash> thanks
[04:26] <yao_ziyuan> is it possible to change ubuntu 18.04.1's default theme color (window title bar and menu)?
[04:27] <yao_ziyuan> i remember back in the old unity i could choose between 'Ambient' and 'Radiance'.
[04:30] <yao_ziyuan> i see.
[04:42] <lord-ragnarock> Howdy! I've been following (for the most part) this guide on setting up vsftpd, and the furthrest I can get on the client devices on my network is "Connection Refused" . I'm still new to this process and I'm kinda at my wit's end here :( Any help would be so appreciated.
[04:43] <SlidingHorn> lord-ragnarock: what guide is "this guide?"
[04:44] <lord-ragnarock> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-for-a-user-s-directory-on-ubuntu-18-04
[04:44] <lord-ragnarock> ufw is inactive, contrary to the guide haha :P
[04:45] <SlidingHorn> lord-ragnarock: which step are you stuck on
[04:46] <lord-ragnarock> I've finished literally everything at Step 4, changing names as fit.
[04:47] <SlidingHorn> lord-ragnarock: are we sure vsftpd is running?   sudo systemctl status vsftpd
[04:47] <lord-ragnarock> I keep forgetting "status" is part of that command lol :P
[04:48] <lord-ragnarock> Yeah I figured the problem would've been more in my face than I was thinking :P What's the room's rules on Pastebin?
[04:49] <SlidingHorn> any pastebin is fine lord-ragnarock
[04:49] <lord-ragnarock> Thanks :)
[04:50] <lord-ragnarock> https://pastebin.com/1QpjZgnZ
[04:50] <lord-ragnarock> Still trying to figure out how to read what this is telling me haha
[04:52] <SlidingHorn> well it says that vsftpd failed to start properly...
[04:52] <lord-ragnarock> I'll restart it and see if that does anything :)
[04:52] <SlidingHorn> give me a minute to get back to my desktop...on my phone having a smoke outside right now
[04:53] <lord-ragnarock> Alright no problem
[05:01] <lightblue> hi, I had an old desktop computer which runs ubuntu 16.04. Today it prompts that I can upgrade to 18.04. Now the upgrade is stuck at "checking for installed snaps" and the terminal window below the message is stuck at "rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf-2.index..."
[05:01] <lightblue> It's been stuck there for about one hour. Anyone has ever run into the same problem?
[05:11] <SlidingHorn> lord-ragnarock: how did attempting to start it again go?
[05:13] <lord-ragnarock> Same thing. "(code=exited, status=2)"
[05:14] <lord-ragnarock> Hmmm. A question about that error at serverfault.com suggested that I make sure any files I referenced in my config actually exist. I'ma do that :)
[05:15] <SlidingHorn> lord-ragnarock: if that doesn't end up fixing your problem, take a look here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/683413/vsftpd-cannot-read-config-file-even-when-file-exists
[05:17] <lord-ragnarock> Oooh. Looks like the bad lines went away when I did systemctl status vsftpd.conf :D
[05:26] <lord-ragnarock> Well the service says it's active. Still getting refused connections to it though, even when I connect to localhost from Nautilus on this computer :(
[05:27] <lord-ragnarock> @ SlidingHorn
[05:27] <SlidingHorn> lord-ragnarock: My next step would be to make sure that your firewall settings align with those in the tutorial
[05:27] <lord-ragnarock> That wouldn't hurt to do actually, haha :P
[05:29] <lord-ragnarock> Just enabled the firewall. Let's see what the guide needs me to do now
[05:34] <Goop> how do I create an unlimited bash history?
[05:34] <Goop> How do I make my bash history unlimited?
[05:35] <oceanquake> Hello all.  I am used to BSDs and other Linux distros; picking ubuntu back up after a while.  I'm having a problem I remember seeing with Ubiquity a while back and wondering what to do.  I have a particular partitioning scheme I'd like use that when mounted together will all work for a booted system.  When I go through the installer, select the existing partitions which already have filesystems on them, tell the installer not to format them, etc.,
[05:35] <oceanquake>  Ubiquity just sits on the final screen where files are supposed to be copied, with nothing happening.
[05:36] <oceanquake> How can I install without having Ubuntu tell me how to partition or insisting on a particular partitioning scheme?
[05:40] <lord-ragnarock> @ SlidingHorn Oh well that's weird. I tried port 21 on Filezilla for Mac and I got logged in :P
[05:40] <lord-ragnarock> Can't log onto the symlinks I made to my drives, but that's hopefully just a permissions issue lol
[05:41] <oceanquake> Goop: man bash ; if you look in the section going over variables, you'll see HISTSIZE is one of them and that setting it to a negative value turns off history size limiting
[06:53] <mostym> hey guys i'm running 18.04 and when I put in my sd card into my laptop, my sd card isn't getting mounted.  So i checked dmesg and I see mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card.  I'm also seeing 03:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS525A PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> mostym: have you tryed formatting your sdcard yet? or you need the data on it?
[06:54] <mostym> It should be known that I'm dual booting windows 10 and ubuntu 18.04.  The sd card works in windows
[06:54] <mostym> lotuspsychje: it doesn't even show up in fdisk
[06:54] <AndyChow888> mostym, if it works in windows, it should work in linux. What do you see with lsblk?
[06:55] <mostym> hehe.  I'm in windows right now.  I didn't check that.
[06:55] <mostym> I'm thinking I should maybe reinstall ubuntu
[06:55] <AndyChow888> Why?
[06:55] <mostym> I dunno
[06:56] <mostym> I've read sd cards before in ubuntu, without a problem
[06:57] <AndyChow888> Your sd card might be dead. Or many other things. Reinstalling ubuntu won't help (it won't hurt either, it's just not related).
[06:57] <mostym> This is the card i'm using SanDisk 256GB Extreme microSD UHS-I Card with Adapter - U3 A2 - SDSQXA1-256G-GN6MA
[06:58] <mostym> If it was dead, i wouldn't be able see it in Windows either?
[06:58] <AndyChow888> Correct, mostym, normally.
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> mostym: tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugout back in your sdcard and pastebin us the results plz
[06:59] <AndyChow888> But, from windows, can you actually paste some files, then bring them back to your computer? Sometimes, Windows doesn't report errors right away.
[06:59] <mostym> brb, gonna boot into ubuntu
[06:59] <AndyChow888> Also, in Ubtuntu, you might need to install ntfs-3g.
[06:59] <mostym> AndyChow888: Yes, it's ext3 sd card.
[06:59] <mostym> or 4
[07:00] <mostym> It's running retropie
[07:02] <AndyChow888> If you've formatted your sd card to run retropie, it's unlikely mountable.
[07:02] <mostym> It should be mountable in ubuntu though
[07:02] <AndyChow888> Not in ubuntu, nor windows.
[07:02] <siwica> I am having two 10 TB hard drives and plan to setup a system with a software raid 1 and LVM on top of that. I am wondering where I should put the bootloader, /boot and /swap? Directly on the hard drives, on a separate raid 1? Guess not on top of KVM...?!
[07:02] <siwica>  
[07:03] <mostym> don't use software raid :P
[07:03] <mostym> brb
[07:03] <AndyChow888> siwica, are you planning on using grub, or uefi directly? As for yhe /swap, I suggest a swapfile.
[07:04] <AndyChow888> The swapfile can rest inside your regular filesystem, and not be a regular partition. What fs are you planning on using?
[07:06] <siwica> AndyChow888: As for filesystems I probably want to use ext4 for / (root) and btrfs for /var (backups...).
[07:07] <siwica> Not sure about grub or uefi directly. Basically following along the Ubuntu 18.04 Server installer. What would you recommend?
[07:07] <epicmetal> How to diagnose laptop with black screen? Power light on, suspend light not on, SSD light not on, couldn't CTRL+ALT+Fx to switch to a different virtual console. Had to forcibly power off with power button. Nothing in journalctl -b -1. Ubuntu 18.10 on a Sandy Bridge era ThinkPad. No PPAs or 3rd party software/repos.
[07:08] <epicmetal> It was fully patched OS and rebooted as of this morning with Software Updater
[07:09] <epicmetal> Laptop on AC, so autosuspend shouldn't have triggered.
[07:09] <AndyChow888> siwica, Sounds good. I would recommend whatever the server installer recommends. I believe that is grub. Keep it simple.
[07:09] <epicmetal> Blank screen = 5 minutes, but obviously I didn't see an unlock prompt when I pressed the keyboard. Keyboard works fine.
[07:09] <mostym> lotuspsychje: when I run tail -f /var/log/syslog
[07:10] <AndyChow888>   epicmetal, do you see a post? A way to bring up the bios menu, when you boot?
[07:10] <mostym> lotuspsychje: it doesn't show anything
[07:11] <epicmetal> AndyChow888: yeah, I cold booted and am using the system as we speak
[07:11] <mostym> I mean, nothing pertainging to mmc
[07:11] <epicmetal> AndyChow888: everything seems fine after the cold boot
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> mostym: plug out sd, then plug back in
[07:13] <siwica> AndyChow888: Is it wise to put grub on both disks? And if so, how?
[07:13] <AndyChow888> epicmetal, weird. Perhaps a power setting. Did you run journalctl as root?
[07:13] <siwica> AndyChow888: If one disk breaks, the system should still be able to boot.
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> !acpi | epicmetal see also
[07:14] <epicmetal> AndyChow888: yes, as root
[07:15] <AndyChow888> siwica, you are using mdadm?
[07:15] <AndyChow888> epicmetal, that's weird. First time it happened?
[07:15] <siwica> AndyChow888: The ubuntu installer seems to put a grub partition on whichever disk I choose to be the boot device.
[07:15] <AndyChow888> siwica, that's normal, and cool.
[07:16] <epicmetal> AndyChow888: yep, I'll take a look at the link
[07:16] <siwica> AndyChow888: Hm, not using mdadm directly only the interface of the installer
[07:16] <siwica> AndyChow888: So what happens if the disk with grub on it breaks?
[07:17] <AndyChow888> siwica, once your install is finished, if you see two devices, you can install grub on both. "grub-install /dec/sdc", and so on.
[07:18] <AndyChow888> if one disk breaks, you'll have to boot in degraded mode.
[07:23] <siwica> AndyChow888: Ok! Should I reserve a 1 MB free partition on the second disk then?
[07:23] <siwica> Also, should I put /boot directly on the software raid 1 or on top of LVM?
[07:23] <AndyChow888> siwica, no, the first 2MB will be left free automatically, just like the first disk.
[07:23] <siwica> Ah, good to know!
[07:24] <AndyChow888> You can just leave your /boot in /. But, as you wrote your sentence, I'm unsure what your topology looks like.
[07:25] <AndyChow888> siwica, how many disks do you have?
[07:26] <siwica> two physical disks
[07:26] <siwica> each having one partition
[07:26] <siwica> a raid 1 on top of those
[07:27] <siwica> and an lvm volume group on top of the raid
[07:30] <mostym> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/ZGY0qhs2
[07:35] <mostym> AndyChow888: I can't even see the drive listed in lsblk
[07:41] <mostym> brb
[07:42] <mostym_> back
[07:56] <mostym_> I have a type-c adapter with a sd card reader built into it
[07:56] <mostym_> and that one works.
[08:42] <siwica> It seems that the installer for Ubuntu Server 18.04 is buggy. I am always getting an error when creating an lvm volume which seems to be caused by the Python installer script making the size of a volume not a multiple of 512 bytes when specifying a size of 8.6T in my case.
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> siwica: come join in #ubuntu-server please
[08:44] <siwica> Also there seem to be Python 2/Python 3 issues when browsing through the installer output: e.g. '9455779998873b' is passed as an argument to lvcreate, which indicates wrong handling of Python bytes trings.
[08:44] <siwica> ok
[09:59] <iveqy> I've successfully setup a wlan connection with NetworkManager but after a few days the connection goes down. However NetworkManager does not notice this but still says that the connection is down. How can I make the networkmanager to realise that ip a show the interface as down
[10:14] <pagios> hi all, i am running ubuntu 18, suddenly my gnome center and all settings are throwing errosr when trying to access them: gnome-control-center: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwebkit2gtk-4.0.so.37: undefined symbol: gst_gl_display_egl_new_with_egl_display any idea please?
[10:20] <_TulsiSpice_> hello
[10:22] <guiverc> _TulsiSpice_, Hi, if you have a Ubuntu support question, please just ask it, and be patient waiting for a reply, if someone can help you they will (when they can)
[10:24] <_TulsiSpice_> okay
[10:25] <_TulsiSpice_> how can i speed up the boot time and wake time from lockscreen
[10:25] <_TulsiSpice_> are there things that hinder the system as such
[10:26] <_TulsiSpice_> also..i first started facing these slow boot times after the 18.10 upgrade from 18.04 which was relatively much faster
[10:37] <ramsub07> hello, i'm trying to move  a lots of file using rsync command. The command seems very slow and ineffective. Is there any faster alternative ?
[10:47] <AdityaPatil> Anyone connected to NKN[0] here? Is there an Ubuntu repo hosted on NKN? [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Knowledge_Network
[10:48] <AdityaPatil> I am getting very slow speed with the default archive
[10:51] <vlt> ramsub07: Can you describe what "slow and ineffective" means?
[10:52] <ramsub07> vlt: The write speed seems to be 10x lower than what it's potential is
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> AdityaPatil: talk to the ubuntu-mirror guys for known issues on repos
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> AdityaPatil: #ubuntu-mirrors
[10:53] <vlt> ramsub07: How did you measure that? What is your source location, what is your target? Different hosts or the same? If the former, how are they connected? ...?
[10:53] <AdityaPatil> lotuspsychje sure, thanks!
[10:54] <ramsub07> vlt: it's using Bonie++ that I measure the write speed on the disk. for monitoring the present write speed, I use htop
[10:54] <ramsub07> sorry iotop*
[11:07] <legreffier> ramsub07: is this a lot of very small ? how much is a lot ? (thousands ? millions ?)
[11:08] <ramsub07> legreffier: So the speed on IO top is averaging around 3Mbps, whereas the bonnie++ write speed was 31Mbps.
[11:11] <legreffier> ramsub07: idk how bonnie will find its write speed. but writing many very small files will be the bottleneck here
[11:13] <ramsub07> legreffier: True, I can confirm that is the case. Bonnie tries to write random large chunks of data, whereas I am trying to write many (2 million) individual files
[11:19] <legreffier> ramsub07: don't look any further
[11:21] <ramsub07> Also, how do I connect to an SSH server using Nautilus but login with key?
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> pagios: system up to date?
[11:22] <pagios> lotuspsychje, yes
[11:22] <pagios> so weird
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> pagios: syslog/dmesg spitting out some errors?
[11:23] <pagios> yea the one mentioined
[11:23] <pagios> gnome-control-center: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwebkit2gtk-4.0.so.37: undefined symbol: gst_gl_display_egl_new_with_egl_display
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> pagios: tested from terminal on 18.04 here, works without errors
[11:25] <legreffier> ramsub07: if your ssh-agent is loaded correctly it should do that automatically
[11:26] <legreffier> ramsub07: if you use gnome , gnome-keyring-daemon should deal with this
[11:27] <ramsub07> legreffier: oh, i should be adding the key to ssh-add?
[11:27] <legreffier> ramsub07: indeed
[11:27] <ramsub07> Thanks!
[11:27] <reaga> im using kubuntu now, does anyone know how i can change the animation speed of the application launcher's "slide" effect (from selecting favorites/applications/computer/history/leave). i want it to be instant
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> pagios: apt-cache policy gives you version  2.22.4-0ubuntu0.18.04.1?
[11:28] <legreffier> ramsub07: I just tried and it just works, provides the user name if it's different from your local current user : ssh://other_login@ssh_host/
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> pagios: are you on wayland or xorg?
[11:34] <HaMsTeRs> Hello guys, I'm new to KDE.  I actually likes it, but it seems to be a bit buggy.  Currently I'm running Kubuntu.  Would there any chance that Neon is better?
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | HaMsTeRs
[11:53] <tomreyn> hmm, i'm quite new to systemd's journal, but should it be rotated or getting cut off occasionally? du -sh /var/log/journal/ reports 1.9G
[12:06] <pagios> lotuspsychje, cache policy doesnt return 2.2..4
[12:17] <tomreyn> found the systemd journal bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1790205
[12:21] <quem> good folks! i recently got a zenbook ux433fn, which i naturally installed ubuntu on. there's just two quirks that are irking me; turning it off, putting it in suspend and returning from suspend takes a lot of time. those things were near instant in ubuntu on my old elitebook.
[12:22] <quem> any ideas?
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> !acpi | quem
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: 1.9 gig journal here, add myself affected?
[12:32] <Marok> hello guys
[12:32] <Marok> i am new
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> welcome to the ubuntu support Marok
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> Marok: how can we help you?
[12:33] <yossarianuk> hi - I am shortly getting an SSD disk (500GB) - I will still have a larger SATA disk - what is the best way of splitting partitions across the disks for best performance - i.e I assume root (/) should be on ssd ? /var - should be on the SATA disk ? and /home should be SSD (as that is where most config/cache files are for mosty progams I use )
[12:33] <Marok> i have a (Target packages, CNF, DEP, DEP-11 is configured multiple times) problem.
[12:34] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: you could check how long they go back in time. if more thna a few weeks or months, i'd say so.
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> yossarianuk: these days ssd's a pretty powerfull that partitioning wont matter a lot
[12:34] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: i think we're really all affected, since there doesn't seem to be any mechanism in place by default which triggers vacuum
[12:35] <quem> lotuspsychje: thanks mate. :) i'm also a bit frustrated by the function keys being function keys by default. anyway i can invert them so that they act as vol down/up, home, end, pgup/dn etc by default without requiring me to press the fn key?
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> yossarianuk: there are some tweak for your system, that play along with ssd's nicely like: preload, swappiness, startup services, and bleachbit system cleanup
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> yossarianuk: and fstab tweaks
[12:37] <tomreyn> yossarianuk: whether you'll put / on the ssd mostly defines boot and application startup time, but only on the first load after reboot (due to caching if you have enough ram).
[12:37] <tomreyn> yossarianuk: /home you most likely want on the SSD, but maybe not all of it, such as /home/Downloads
[12:38] <Marok> lotuspsychje: (Target packages, CNF, DEP, DEP-11 is configured multiple times)
[12:38] <tomreyn> i mean /home/$USER/Downloads
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: Logs begin at Fri 2018-08-17 11:58:49 CEST, end at Mon 2019-01-07 13:37:11 CET
[12:40] <tomreyn> yossarianuk: so i agree the overall goal should be to have more regularly accessed data on the ssd, data which is mostly at rest on the HDD.
[12:40] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: is 2018-08-17 11:58:49 CEST when you (re-)installed 18.04 or upgraded to it?
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: reinstalled fresh in august
[12:43] <yossarianuk> tomreyn: thanks for your input
[12:44] <yossarianuk> Is there much advantage of putting the steam dirs on the SSD - i.e if the system (/) is on the ssd but steam files on sata would you still gain some speed in loading games anyway as system libs, etc are on the SSD ?
[12:44] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: this should give an idea of how much is retained: journalctl --list-boots | head -n1 && journalctl --disk-usage
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: Archived and active journals take up 1.8G in the file system.
[12:45] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: personally i think that no more than a week should be retained, but YMMV
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> added myself tomreyn
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> yossarianuk: everything that needs speed should be on the ssd :p
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> anyone else has a broken icon for the logviewer on 18.04?
[12:49] <tomreyn> yossarianuk: surely this depends on whether steam will use system libs or those which it brings along and places in $HOME (which get outdated and never seem to get security patches). i think it tries to prefer system libraries in some cases nowadays, though. I don't remember the details.
[12:51] <tomreyn> yossarianuk: the game binaries and assets would remain in $HOME unless you point ~/.steampath elsewhere
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> !home
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:20] <yossarianuk> tomreyn: thanks and with steam it uses libs within steam dir - unless you have steam-native like in arch on solus (which uses systtemlibs)
[13:27] <LaRose_Bleu> yello
[13:29] <tomreyn> yossarianuk: i think you can do "steam-native" on ubuntu as well. but i think steam is kind of OT here, and lunch is waiting, so.. ttyl ;-)
[13:31] <cryptodan> yossarianuk: i use steam natively on linux, and for it work properly you need to install ia32-libs and make sure you have your graphics drivers installed
[13:32]  * LaRose_Bleu sees steam being discussed, has steam issues as well
[13:32] <LaRose_Bleu> o.O
[13:34] <LaRose_Bleu> guys i have a problem i need help with
[13:34] <cryptodan> what is it
[13:34] <LaRose_Bleu> i managed to move my steam library to my linux box, and managed to get most of my games working with proton
[13:35] <LaRose_Bleu> now here's the issue, my GTA V worked till i rebooted, doesnt work anymore
[13:35] <LaRose_Bleu> you can tell steam is launching is (goes through the motions) then nothing
[13:35] <LaRose_Bleu> i dunno what to do
[13:36] <LaRose_Bleu> there's no errors or anything (that i can find, being a noob and all) it just doesnt do what it do
[13:36] <cryptodan> LaRose_Bleu: you can try #steamlug
[13:36] <LaRose_Bleu> whats that
[13:36] <LaRose_Bleu> oh its a channel
[13:36] <LaRose_Bleu> lol
[13:39] <visone> howdy
[13:55] <fub> TJ-: Hi. You helped me a few days ago to fix my ethernet firmware problem (set-eee) with as udev rule. Sadly the udev rule does not work. I used this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S5bHY8t6T7/
[13:55] <fub> I copied the content of this to /etc/udev/rules.d/99-disable-EEE.rules, do I need to do sth. else with this?
[14:23] <visone> howdy
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> welcome visone
[14:27] <kanupatar> hi all, is there any mechanism to check whether the USB devices/drivers are using the DMA? Is there any APIs or IOCTLs?
[14:31] <Siecje>  I'm using cinnamon on Ubuntu 16.04 with two monitors. The second monitor has lines in it. Restarting seems to fix it sometimes. Unplugging one of the monitors sometimes fixes it.
[14:32] <dsc_> will unattended upgrades make my server reboot?
[14:32] <SimonNL> https://dpaste.de/nVWE  this is coming from Siecje
[14:33] <tomreyn> fub: after placing this at /etc/udev/rules.d/99-disable-EEE.rules and restarting the udev service (systemctl restart udev), rebooting (or unlading and re-loading the NIC driver module) should cause /sbin/ethtool (does this exist?) to be run.
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> dsc_: join #ubuntu-server please
[14:34] <tomreyn> dsc_: not by default. it is an option you can set in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50-unattended-upgrades.conf (path from memory)
[14:35] <tomreyn> Siecje: so those lines are static, as in always shoing?
[14:35] <tomreyn> *showing
[14:35] <Siecje> tomreyn: Yeah, they even show up in the monitor menu (position, etc)
[14:36] <TikityTik> what's the difference between all the gvim packages on ubuntu? how do i know which one i want?
[14:36] <tomreyn> Siecje: are those line thin 1 or 2 pixel lines , or much wider?
[14:36] <Siecje> Also if I drag a window (terminal window) onto that monitor there are more visible lines above and below it.
[14:36] <Siecje> it being the window.
[14:37] <tomreyn> Siecje: ok, so how wide are they?
[14:38] <Siecje> 1920x1080 resolution
[14:38] <tomreyn> Siecje: the lines
[14:38] <Siecje> how thick? very small 1 pixel maybe
[14:39] <tomreyn> Siecje: yes thats what i meant. have you tried re-seating the data cable to the monitor on both ends?
[14:39] <Siecje> tomreyn: Yeah and sometimes that fixes it.
[14:39] <Siecje> Sometimes it causes the issue on the HDMI monitor
[14:40] <Siecje> Does sometime restart when you add another monitor?
[14:40] <Siecje> something*
[14:40] <Siecje> It seems strange to me that unplugging one monitor would break the other monitor
[14:40] <tomreyn> Siecje: which is "the HDMI monitor"? so far you said you have two monitors, one of which ("the second") has this issue.
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> TikityTik: are you talking about apt packages vs snap?
[14:40] <Siecje> The second is VGA.
[14:40] <TikityTik> lotuspsychje: yeah the apt packages
[14:41] <Siecje> I also don't understand how the lines could show up in the monitor's menu.
[14:41] <TikityTik> lotuspsychje: i see gnome, py, gtk, and different versions of gtk, etc
[14:41] <TikityTik> lotuspsychje: How do I know which one I want?
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> TikityTik: the apt packages are reccomended, but if you like more later version, newer you can try snaps
[14:41] <Siecje> I tried changing the "Clock" in the menu, which I think is the refresh rate.
[14:41] <TikityTik> lotuspsychje: but which apt package?
[14:41] <Siecje> There is also Phase
[14:41] <Siecje> Auto adjusts sets clock to 50 and Phase to 88
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> the users choice TikityTik, what are you gonna do with gvim?
[14:43] <tomreyn> Siecje: if unplugging one monitor has effects on the other monitor it's indeed a graphics card hardware, firmware or driver issue.
[14:43] <Siecje> tomreyn: How can I update the drivers?
[14:43] <Siecje> Also this only happens with Cinnamon not Unity.
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> TikityTik: and where do you see them? software center or apt?
[14:43] <SimonNL> https://dpaste.de/nVWE tomreyn coming from Siecje
[14:44] <TikityTik> lotuspsychje: apt
[14:44] <TikityTik> lotuspsychje: https://ptpb.pw/eF0q
[14:45] <Siecje> There is another user that logs in by default (how can I remove that?) and that user uses unity.
[14:45] <tomreyn> Siecje: according to the inxi output SimonNL posted you only have a single graphics chipset, which is intel. this will be the i915 driver. you could try a newer driver stack but there is usually only one which is supported (or two with HWE). you are using a HWE kernel currently. does this also happen with the general availability kernel of 16.04?
[14:46] <Siecje> tomreyn: I don't know. How can I check?
[14:46] <tomreyn> !hwe | Siecje read this for general understanding
[14:47] <Siecje> I was given this work computer. I created a new user and installed Cinnamon.
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> TikityTik: try some out, its easy to uninstall the gtk or the gnome version perhaps?
[14:48] <ramsub07> Hi, i am in directory and I have multiple directories within this present directory. Let's consider this structure as a tree with many branches and if you go to the bottom most point of these branches, there are several thousand images. My aim is to find all the images recursively inside each of the directory and move them on-to a particular location. How do I go about?
[14:48] <Siecje> tomreyn: Should I run the install command for DESKTOP to update?
[14:49] <tomreyn> Siecje: you can install "linux-image-generic" (sud apt update; sudo apt install linux-image-generic) to install the lower version kernel image. then, next time you boot, keep pressing escape to bring up the grub menu. once there, select advanced options for ubuntu, and the latest 4.4.0 kernel
[14:50] <tomreyn> (select the normal non-"recovery" option)
[14:50] <tomreyn> Siecje: i don't understand what you mean by "Should I run the install command for DESKTOP to update?"
[14:50] <Siecje> tomreyn: On the webpage linked.
[14:51] <Siecje> I'll try reboot now.
[14:51] <tomreyn> Siecje: you already have the HWE kernel installed, that'S the one you are using now.
[14:51] <Siecje> yeah but maybe it is not up to date.
[14:51] <tomreyn> the suggestion i'm making is to also try the default, general availability, kernel of 16.04
[14:52] <tomreyn> those should be the ones which get the most testing, are the most stable
[14:53] <MacroMan> I've accidentally deleted the 512mb boot partition on my hdd. I take it that will prevent me from booting my computer?
[14:54] <MacroMan> Will I be able to fix that before I turn the computer off?
[14:55] <tomreyn> MacroMan: yes, this would probably prevent you from booting. and yes, this is somethign you can fix. did you recreate the partition, yet?
[14:55] <tomreyn> Siecje; any change? if not, you can indeed try to " sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04  " - maybe you only had the updated kernel but not updated x server. please do show the output of installing this command, using a !pastebin
[14:56] <Siecje> tomreyn: No luck. When it was booting (duplicated displays) the VGA monitor had the problem. Also in Unity for the auto login user it had the issue.
[14:56] <MacroMan> tomreyn: No not yet. I cam straight here when I realised
[14:56] <tomreyn> Siecje: so in contrary to your earlier statement it does also happen with unity?
[14:57] <Siecje> yes
[14:57] <tomreyn> MacroMan: how did you delete it? i'm not asking to blame, just to understand whether it'S really recoverable
[14:57] <Siecje> At least with 4.4.0 kernel. ( I think more likely it is random, because some days it does not happen)
[14:57] <MacroMan> From the disks gui
[14:57] <MacroMan> I thought I was deleting a sd card partition *head in hands*
[14:57] <tomreyn> Siecje: ok. please see the longer emssage above.
[14:57] <Siecje> https://dpaste.de/gfzW
[14:59] <MacroMan> tomreyn: I take it I should I re-create the partition then?
[14:59] <yao_ziyuan> i'm using ubuntu 18.04.1 and have set gtk3 theme to Adwaita-dark via gnome-tweaks. now the unity top panel has a different color than a maximized window title bar (https://imgur.com/a/T7nywyl). how do i make them match?
[15:00] <tomreyn> Siecje: okay, so you had the updated X server package installed already. you could try removing this one, and boot the 4.4.0 kernel again. or oyu could try a yet newer kernel and see whether it helps. but i think you should also consider cross testing the monitor data cables if that's an option (do both monitors support vga + hdmi, or do you have spare vga or hdmi cables?)
[15:00] <Siecje> tomreyn: I just unplugged the HDMI cable and when I plugged it back in both monitors look good.
[15:01] <tomreyn> MacroMan: let's do it on a terminal so i'll know for sure we're doing the right thing - if you are ok with this?
[15:01] <MacroMan> tomreyn: Fine, I'm confortable with that
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> yao_ziyuan: when maximize, color changes to theme, on minimize top bar goes transparant again, just tested on adwaita
[15:01] <MacroMan> tomreyn: And thank you
[15:01] <yao_ziyuan> lotuspsychje: but see my screenshot
[15:02] <yao_ziyuan> lotuspsychje: the unity top panel seems to have a different color than the maximized window title bar
[15:02] <tomreyn> Siecje: next time it happens, remove power off both monitors, then wait a few seconds and replug both, then power on the hdmi one, then the vga one.
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> same here yao_ziyuan
[15:02] <Siecje> tomreyn: Okay thanks for your help
[15:03] <tomreyn> MacroMan: please run this in a terminal, then report the url it returns:  sudo parted -ls 2>&1 | pastebinit
[15:03] <tomreyn> Siecje: and if you have spare cables, do cross testing, too
[15:03] <MacroMan> tomreyn: I don't have pastebinit, are you happy with termbin?
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> yao_ziyuan: https://imgur.com/a/ks5LPwd
[15:03] <tomreyn> Siecje: i am not convinced that we solved it, but that's all i can suggest for now
[15:03] <MacroMan> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/vvot
[15:04] <tomreyn> MacroMan: sure
[15:05] <tomreyn> MacroMan: are you bios or uefi booting?
[15:05] <MacroMan> uefi I think
[15:05] <yao_ziyuan> lotuspsychje: is this because the gtk3 theme sets 'panel color' to that?
[15:06] <tomreyn> MacroMan: whats the output (no need for a pastebin) of:[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[15:06] <MacroMan> Yes UEFI
[15:06] <tomreyn> MacroMan: so what you deleted was the ESP, not the partition contining /boot
[15:06] <MacroMan> Ah OK. Is that important?
[15:07] <tomreyn> MacroMan: well, it makes a difference. are you multi booting, is another Os installed?
[15:07] <ramsub07> Hi, i am in directory and I have multiple directories within this present directory. Let's consider this structure as a tree with many branches and if you go to the bottom most point of these branches, there are several thousand images. My aim is to find all the images recursively inside each of the directory and move them on-to a particular location. How do I go about?
[15:07] <MacroMan> No, just Ubuntu 18.04
[15:07] <cek> I'm wondering why every document I find on uefi SecureBoot says signing certs should be installed into databases and at the same time they are mentioning PKI. So, should the `db` contain the signing cert or should/can it contain the CA cert that issued the signing cert?
[15:08] <MacroMan> tomreyn: So will something like grun-install fix it?
[15:08] <MacroMan> *grub-install*
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> yao_ziyuan: did you test this with other themes?
[15:09] <MacroMan> Or is it not a problem
[15:10] <tomreyn> MacroMan: okay then full recovery should be doable. sudo parted /dev/sda mkpart primary 1049kB 538MB
[15:10] <MacroMan> tomreyn: OK, got "Information: You may need to update /etc/fstab."
[15:11] <tomreyn> sudo parted /dev/sda print | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:11] <yao_ziyuan> lotuspsychje: there is one gtk theme "HighContrast" that can set unity top panel color to black, so i guess the unity top panel color is indeed set by a gtk theme.
[15:11] <MacroMan> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/jsc3
[15:11] <MacroMan> The partition is there now
[15:14] <tomreyn> MacroMan: yes, but we need to modify it more. sudo parted /dev/sda toggle 1 esp && sudo parted /dev/sda toggle 1 boot && sudo parted /dev/sda name 1 esp && sudo parted /dev/sda print | nc termbin.com 9999; sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999; cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:14] <yao_ziyuan> lotuspsychje: "The top panel (for which the proper term is "menu bar") in Unity gets its theme from the currently set GTK+3 theme. Notice that depending on whether you select Ambiance or Radiance the color of the menu bar changes to match your window titlebars. So, one option is to simply find, install, and select a different GTK+3 theme. However, this also changes the theme for the rest of your desktop."
[15:16] <MacroMan> First: https://termbin.com/kkwi     Second: https://termbin.com/jmjz
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> yao_ziyuan: when you say unity, you really mean unity or are you on gnome?
[15:16] <ramsub07> Hi, how do I monitor the progress of tar while uncompressing a file?
[15:16] <tomreyn> ramsub07: do you want to move all of these images to the same destination directory? depending on the file system you have, this may not be a good idea if these are a LOT of images.
[15:16] <yossarianuk> I have one more question - as i'm going to be reinstalling the system (on my new ssd) ....
[15:16] <MacroMan> tomreyn: The third contains passwords for my shared drives. Can I send to you privately somehow? Or what do you need to see?
[15:17] <yao_ziyuan> lotuspsychje: i mean unity. i'm in ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, with Unity (dashboard, top panel, etc.)
[15:17] <yossarianuk> Is it actually possible to use the nvidia drivers (from the ubunut repos) with secure boot enabled
[15:17] <ramsub07> tomreyn: yes, I indeed want to move all to one place. It's not the best thing, but that is the desired result
[15:17] <yao_ziyuan> lotuspsychje: i.e. the default ubuntu desktop environment.
[15:18] <yossarianuk> as when i have tried in the past the package mentioned to disable secure boot
[15:18] <tomreyn> MacroMan: you can remove the lines for partitions which are not on sda, and you can obfuscate passwords, and post the result to https://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:18] <MacroMan> tomreyn: It's OK I've done that already lol: https://paste.ngx.cc/e5
[15:19] <tomreyn> ramsub07: are there other files besides those image files in this directory tree? how do you identify the image files you need to move?
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> yao_ziyuan: im on gnome myself
[15:20] <tomreyn> MacroMan: hmm something didnt work out when you ran these commands: do you still have the output? sudo parted /dev/sda toggle 1 boot && sudo parted /dev/sda name 1 esp
[15:21] <MacroMan> tomreyn: For those commands? Just gives me "Information: You may need to update /etc/fstab." again
[15:22] <tomreyn> MacroMan: please post the current state again:  sudo parted /dev/sda print | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:22] <MacroMan> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/fcix
[15:24] <tomreyn> MacroMan: much better. now - no typos please!: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[15:25] <MacroMan> tomreyn: https://paste.ngx.cc/f3cc41893331adcc
[15:26] <ramsub07> tomreyn: Yes, at the bottommost place of all the directories, there are images and txt files. and i want to move both to a single destination
[15:27] <ramsub07> tomreyn: the problem i'm facing is, from my present location, the number of directories that I have to crawl past to reach the directory containing images and txt is a variable and not fixed
[15:27] <relligions> hi
[15:28] <MacroMan> ramsub07: For the tar file, use pv, like demonstrated here: https://superuser.com/questions/168749/is-there-a-way-to-see-any-tar-progress-per-file
[15:28] <relligions> how to recognized android using lsblk shows no output for the device.
[15:28] <visone> howdy
[15:28] <tomreyn> MacroMan: oops, please unmount it first. sudo umount /dev/sda1
[15:28] <SlidingHorn> relligions: you're using arch...you should ask in their channel.  This channel is for Ubuntu support only
[15:28] <MacroMan> tomreyn: "mkfs.fat 3.0.28 (2015-05-16)"
[15:29] <tomreyn> MacroMan: actually, i guess the file system is probably still fine and we can just reuse it.
[15:29] <tomreyn> MacroMan: okay, you just ran the mkfs command, right?
[15:29] <MacroMan> tomreyn: Yes
[15:29] <MacroMan> After unmounting
[15:29] <tomreyn> MacroMan: that's fine. now: sudo blkid --probe /dev/sda1
[15:29] <relligions> no ubuntu "recognized" the phone, I used and tried ubuntu, my question is how did it do it? Wat did it tweak to make it happen.
[15:30] <MacroMan> tomreyn: Should it be a single dash? I get invalid option --
[15:30] <SlidingHorn> relligions: you're asking what arch did differently, which is off topic here.  Again, your question is one for #archlinux
[15:31] <relligions> SlidingHorn: how did you know I am on arch though. I am surprised.
[15:31] <tomreyn> MacroMan: hmm works here. are you not on 18.04 ?
[15:31] <SlidingHorn> relligions: I'm also in #android ;)
[15:31] <MacroMan> Yes, 18.0. Looking at the man for blkid, there is no --probe option. There's a -P option
[15:32] <MacroMan> tomreyn: Ah, not 16.04. I thought I was on a different machine *facepalm again*
[15:32] <ramsub07> MacroMan: Thanks
[15:33] <tomreyn> MacroMan: dpkg -S $(which blkid) | cut -d: -f1 | xargs dpkg -l | cat
[15:34] <MacroMan> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/3gox
[15:34] <tomreyn> MacroMan: okay which ubuntu version do you run n the system we're working on? so far you said it was "18.0" (which does not exist), then "not 16.04".
[15:34] <MacroMan> Sorry, it's 16.04. I mistyped
[15:34] <tomreyn> ok
[15:35] <tomreyn> MacroMan: without --probe then
[15:35] <MacroMan> tomreyn: /dev/sda1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="029C-7063" TYPE="vfat" PARTLABEL="esp" PARTUUID="7cc9bf99-8674-4ccc-ae9b-638382483f71"
[15:36] <tomreyn> MacroMan: edit /etc/fstab, replacing, in line 11, UUID=6102-2E54 by UUID=029C-7063
[15:37] <MacroMan> tomreyn: OK done
[15:38] <TJ-> fub: Just seen your message. I'm surprised the rule doesn't trigger. Is the interface name still correct?
[15:38] <tomreyn> ramsub07: you can use (GNU) find for this, it will recurse through the subdirectories of the path you provide as the first argument, have it look for files only (-type f), and you can have it run a command on any file it finds (-exec).
[15:39] <tomreyn> ramsub07: don't have it exec the 'mv' command the first time, but make it exec 'echo mv ...' so that you'll see what it would be doing, and can check this is correct.
[15:40] <tomreyn> MacroMan: okay so now you can mount it: sudo mount /boot/efi
[15:40] <MacroMan> tomreyn: Done. No output.
[15:40] <tomreyn> MacroMan: and we can re-reun grub to have it create a new uefi boot code for you: sudpo update-grub; sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[15:41] <ramsub07> tomreyn: doesn't mv have a limit on the number of files it can move?
[15:41] <tomreyn> MacroMan: the kernel image and initrd are still present in /boot, right?
[15:41] <ramsub07> I have more than 100,000 files in some directories and I thought that might be a bottleneck
[15:41] <tomreyn> ramsub07: it would move files one by one this way. find would call 'mv' for each file it finds
[15:41] <MacroMan> tomreyn: update-grub succeded and got "Installation finished. No error reported." from grub-install
[15:42] <ramsub07> tomreyn: can you please give an example?
[15:43] <tomreyn> MacroMan: looks good. can you: sudo ls -laR /boot/efi/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:43] <MacroMan> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/bzba
[15:44] <tomreyn> ramsub07: find /full/path/to/topost/source/directory -type f -exec echo mv '{}' /full/path/to/destination/directory \;
[15:45] <tomreyn> ramsub07: if the output looks fine, re-run it without the 'echo '
[15:46] <ramsub07> tomreyn: where should I specify the file extension in that command ?
[15:47] <tomreyn> ramsub07: find /full/path/to/topost/source/directory -type f -iname '*.myfileextension' -exec echo mv '{}' /full/path/to/destination/directory \;
[15:48] <ramsub07> tomreyn: Thanks!
[15:48] <tomreyn> MacroMan: have a good boot!
[15:49] <MacroMan> tomreyn: Wow. Thank you so much. You've saved my bacon. Can I buy you a beer or other beverage of your choice?
[15:53] <dreamer89> hello everyone
[15:54] <dreamer89> anyone want to help me with boot-repair? i lost 3 days trying to bring back dual-boot after windows messed up GRUB
[15:55] <dreamer89> not really ubuntu-specific question, but someone will know maybe..
[15:56] <pragmaticenigma> dreamer89: If you're not running Ubuntu here, we can't help you. Each linux distribution has differences that make giving general advice, especially with boot loaders, really bad.
[15:57] <tomreyn> MacroMan: thanks, but no need. ;)
[15:57] <tomreyn> MacroMan: did you reboot, yet?
[15:58] <visone> dreamer89:  if you are using ubuntu, you can try this https://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[15:58] <MacroMan> tomreyn: Not yet. I'll try it shortly.
[15:59] <tomreyn> MacroMan: okay, i don't think i missed anything, but it'd be good to verify.
[15:59] <dreamer89> i got GRUB working, but only ubuntu on list. windows is on bitlocker partition, so it cant be detected using os-prober
[15:59] <MacroMan> tomreyn: Yes, good idea to test now.
[16:00] <tomreyn> dreamer89: did you read what pragmaticenigma wrote?
[16:00] <dreamer89> yes
[16:01] <tomreyn> dreamer89: so you run ubuntu?
[16:01] <dreamer89> was in past, but right now another debian-fork...
[16:01] <mrchairman> dewds, when I run mysql secure install, i fill out all this stuff, and i still can't do "mysql -u root -p", even if I restart mysql ... What am I doing wrong?
[16:02] <pragmaticenigma> dreamer89: I don't believe you can have Windows with Bitlocker and GRUB
[16:02] <tomreyn> dreamer89: then please ask your questions in the support forum / irc channel of this other debian fork
[16:02] <dreamer89> thanks, will try
[16:02] <pragmaticenigma> mrchairman: Try "mysql -h localhost -u root -p"
[16:03] <mrchairman> ok
[16:03] <dreamer89> pragmaticenigma: i had dual-boot until windows update messed it
[16:03] <teward> does anyone know if there's ISO customization documentation for modifying the packages on a LiveCD ISO?  Asking so I can make a recovery ISO I can load up when I need to fix things on a system WITHOUT needing to redownload my extra needs every time.
[16:04] <pragmaticenigma> mrchairman: The default mysql for ubuntu only accepts connections from 127.0.0.1 by default. You can add a config file to /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/ folder to allow all local addresses to connect
[16:04] <tomreyn> dreamer89: you're welcome to ask your ubuntu support questions here once you've installed ubuntu.
[16:06] <tomreyn> teward: i only know about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[16:06] <fub> TJ-: yes, the interface still has the same name
[16:10] <MacroMan> tomreyn: Restarted fine. Thank you very much again.
[16:13] <teward> tomreyn: yeah, the tools it suggests are Out Of Date
[16:14] <teward> i'll keep hunting.
[16:15] <tomreyn> MacroMan: glad to hear this. :)
[16:15] <tomreyn> teward: yes, this is my impression, too, though i haven't actually tried.
[16:16] <teward> tomreyn: i found a tool that I think might do it listed on Ask Ubuntu going to test it shortly.
[16:16] <teward> but we'll see.
[16:17] <tomreyn> teward: "remastersys" or something current?
[16:18] <teward> tomreyn: a gui tool named Cubic that i think is around isolinux and other tools, but meh.  Doing a test modification of the 18.04.1 ISO I have here currently that I use as a recovery env.
[16:18] <tomreyn> https://nathanpfry.com/how-to-customize-an-ubuntu-installation-disc/ might help.
[16:18] <develCuy> o/ I'm having a hard time trying to log something in a new polkitd rule, it seems to not be working at all
[16:18] <tomreyn> there'S also some script i could point you to which tries to automate the process
[16:20] <tomreyn> teward: this is completely use case specific and may actually be a bit dirty, not sure: https://github.com/stockmind/gpd-pocket-ubuntu-respin#how-to-respin-an-iso-for-gpd-pocket
[16:21] <teward> tomreyn: heh.  I'll find something, testing CUbic now which drops me into a chroot for the environment so maybe this'll work heh.
[16:21] <teward> will let you know.
[16:21] <teward> (I think this might work lol)
[16:23] <TJ-> teward: for a recovery environment does it need to be 'live'? I use a 'regular' x86 install on USB that can boot in BIOS or UEFI mode, uses a 32-bit userland, and has both 32 and 64-bit kernels
[16:24] <teward> TJ-: just exploring multiple options.  But I also want an ISO with a patched gparted for OTHER reasons so
[16:24] <teward> (LVM2 things, there's an SRU item in the queue somewhere to fix LVM2 compat but no idea where in the queue it is)
[16:25] <TJ-> teward: I have similar requirements so I just have my patched tooling installed too via /usr/local
[16:26] <tomreyn> you use gparted for anything other than partitioning? i thought this was not recommended by its developers.
[16:26] <teward> tomreyn: LVM2 partition resizing :P
[16:26] <teward> can't shrink without failure due to a change in LVM2
[16:26] <tomreyn> uuh ok, i would always do this with lvm tools
[16:27] <teward> *shrugs*
[16:27] <tomreyn> but if you got a patch which works... fine ;)
[16:27] <teward> *returns to lurking and testing things*
[16:34] <bleb> can someone tell me what is the point of X windows compositing
[16:41] <coconut> bleb: fun
[17:45] <aldcor> HI! I wanted to know if I can follow same instructions since I got exact problem but difference is that I got 18.04. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2393207
[17:46] <pragmaticenigma> aldcor: no, i wouldn't recommend following instructions like that ...
[17:47] <aldcor> do i have to enable tear free mode? I have same problem. Is there other/better solution? It's so annoying. Cant watch any video really..
[17:47] <pragmaticenigma> aldcor: Are you 100% certain it's video tearing and not something else?
[17:48] <aldcor> Quality itself it crisp and clean. Its stuttering/choppy as author of that thread stated
[17:48] <pragmaticenigma> aldcor: To fully understand your situation, you need to provide more details about what your system setup is. A as detailed as possible summary of what you are experiencing
[17:50] <ubuntu_user> I am running Ubuntu 18.04 and have linked /etc/resolv.conf -> /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf and randomly systemd-resolve(?) keeps adding IPv6 nameservers.  Does anyone know how to stop this?
[17:51] <ubuntu_user> It adds: nameserver fe80::7e38:66ff:fe2a:e416%2 nameserver fe80::7e38:66ff:fe32:bc5a%2 nameserver fe80::7e38:66ff:fe32:8308%2
[17:55] <aldcor> pragmaticenigma, not sure what u mean. I got Lenovo laptop. Model name:  Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4720HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz, graphics GeForce GTX 960M/PCIe/SSE2, OS type 64bit, memory 7.7, hdd 1tb
[17:55] <aldcor> Ubuntu 18.04, gnome 3
[17:56] <pragmaticenigma> aldcor: and with that, I can now accurately tell you that the solution you posted will not solve your issue.
[17:56] <aldcor> oh, i am glad i didnt try that
[17:56] <aldcor> what do you think problem is?
[17:57] <pragmaticenigma> aldcor: You have a dual GPU setup with your computer. What I suspect might be the issue is that there is trouble handing off from one GPU to the other. Do you have both GPUs enabled? have you installed anything to handle the dual GPU setup?
[18:01] <aldcor> I am not sure but i did something related to this. I followed an article which suggested to enable nvidia. I did so. I have nvidia settings and I guess I can probably use that to fix my problem. https://ibb.co/BrwCNz7
[18:02] <tomreyn> ubuntu_user: are you sure about the trailing %2 ?
[18:02] <ubuntu_user> Yes, that's a scope for IPv6
[18:03] <ubuntu_user> I have no idea where it is coming from
[18:03] <jjbuggle> [q] How do I edit a pdf?
[18:03] <tomreyn> ubuntu_user: yes it is, but i've not seen anything write this to resolv.conf either
[18:04] <ubuntu_user> Me either
[18:04] <ubuntu_user> I removed it last week and it came back
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> jjbuggle: inkscape is used by some to edit pdf's
[18:05] <jjbuggle> lotuspsychje: ok, I will give it a try.  I just need to type in some text
[18:06] <tomreyn> ubuntu_user: what does "systemd-resolve --status" report?
[18:06] <ubuntu_user> The IPVv6 DNS servers
[18:06] <ubuntu_user> When I try to set them, it gives this error
[18:07] <tomreyn> ubuntu_user: "Current Scopes: DNS" just on one link?
[18:07] <ubuntu_user> $ sudo systemd-resolve --set-dns=10.1.1.101 --interface eno1 The specified interface eno1 is managed by systemd-networkd. Operation refused. Please configure DNS settings for systemd-networkd managed interfaces directly in their .network files.
[18:07] <NoImNotNineVolt> o_O
[18:07] <tomreyn> ubuntu_user: so you dont do dhcp?
[18:07] <ubuntu_user> There are two scopes
[18:07] <ubuntu_user> no DHCP, static
[18:08] <ubuntu_user> Link 4 (enx58ef68b475e0)       Current Scopes: DNS
[18:08] <ubuntu_user> Link 2 (eno1)       Current Scopes: DNS
[18:08] <ubuntu_user> eno1 has the IPv6 garbage
[18:08] <tomreyn> ubuntu_user: and which of them actually connects to your dns server? or do you have multiple?
[18:09] <ubuntu_user> the enx one is the one that should be using DNS
[18:09] <ubuntu_user> it doesn't even matter for eno1
[18:09] <aldcor> pragmaticenigma, any ideas?
[18:09] <ubuntu_user> would like to disable it, but I can't
[18:09] <tomreyn> ubuntu_user: why not?
[18:10] <ubuntu_user> $ sudo systemd-resolve --set-dns=10.1.1.101 --interface eno1 The specified interface eno1 is managed by systemd-networkd. Operation refused. Please configure DNS settings for systemd-networkd managed interfaces directly in their .network files.
[18:10] <ubuntu_user> systemd-networkd isn't installed
[18:10] <tomreyn> ubuntu_user: that's overriding, not disabling. have you done what the message suggests?
[18:10] <tomreyn> oh
[18:11] <ubuntu_user> I can't, its not installed or I dont know how to invoke it
[18:11] <NoImNotNineVolt> have you considered installing systemd-networkd?
[18:11] <ubuntu_user> thats not a valid package
[18:11] <ubuntu_user> $ sudo apt-cache search systemd-networkd networkd-dispatcher - Dispatcher service for systemd-networkd connection status changes openvpn-systemd-resolved - integrates OpenVPN with systemd-resolved
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> aldcor: whats your current nvidia driver in use?
[18:12] <tomreyn> ubuntu_user: is this a server or desktop?
[18:12] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's part of the systemd package.
[18:12] <ubuntu_user> server 18.04
[18:12] <ubuntu_user> Then how do you run it?
[18:12] <ubuntu_user> systemd is trash
[18:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> ...
[18:13] <tomreyn> ^
[18:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> can we limit the lennart bashing to pulseaudio, please? :P
[18:13] <TJ-> ubuntu_user: tomreyn the reason is you've got 2 interfaces both connected to the same segment
[18:13] <tomreyn> ubuntu_user: if you prefer not to use systemd-networkd then i suggest you use network manager instead.
[18:13] <ubuntu_user> I tried issuing systemd-resolved --args to disable or override, it says I have to use something else, which doesn't exist
[18:13] <pragmaticenigma> aldcor: I'm not overly familiar with dual GPU setups, most issues are fixed with installing the nvidia drivers. Beyond that, I'm not sure
[18:14] <ubuntu_user> how do I use systemd-networkd?
[18:14] <TJ-> ubuntu_user: tomreyn scope suffix is always attached for fe80::
[18:14] <NoImNotNineVolt> ubuntu_user: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/systemd-networkd.8.html
[18:14] <tomreyn> TJ-: thats the reason for the scope indication in resolv.conf, you mean?
[18:14] <tomreyn> oh always, i guess i need yet to learn a bit about ipv6
[18:15] <TJ-> tomreyn: Yes, it is required for link-local addresses since the same address can appear on multiple interfaces
[18:15] <ubuntu_user> That man page is useless
[18:15] <ubuntu_user> it says goto /lib/systemd/network and edit the files, which have nothing to do with the DNS/eno1
[18:15] <tomreyn> TJ-: makes sense. thanks for the hint.
[18:16] <TJ-> ubuntu_user: I'd suspect the reason those additional records are being added is the host of the DNS server is periodically regenerated a privacy address
[18:17] <ubuntu_user> TJ: OK?  how do I disable that
[18:17] <aldcor> hm.. pragmaticenigma this command should show me a graphic drivers that lenovo has but it doesnt show nvidia. https://pastecode.xyz/view/5e0df0b0
[18:18] <tomreyn> ubuntu_user: as you may have noticed, systemd-networkd(8) is in section 8, so it doesn'T describe configuration files. this page has a reference (on the very bottom) to the man page describing the configuration file (section 5)
[18:18] <ubuntu_user>   The configuration files are read from the files located in the system network directory        /lib/systemd/network, the volatile runtime network directory /run/systemd/network and the        local administration network directory /etc/systemd/network.
[18:18] <NoImNotNineVolt> ubuntu_user: why would /lib/systemd/network have anything to do with DNS/eno1?
[18:18] <TJ-> ubuntu_user: your first step should be to confirm that the DNS server host is in fact regenerating IPv6 link-local addresses. If so it may be you would be better off disabling that rather than trying to filter at the client(s)
[18:18] <ubuntu_user> And if you goto /lib/systemd/network, there is nothing in it related to anything
[18:18] <ubuntu_user> and /etc/systemd/network is empty
[18:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> so then you're not configuring systemd-networkd.
[18:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> looks like you've identified your issue.
[18:19] <tomreyn> :)
[18:19] <ubuntu_user> I'm usng entplan
[18:19] <ubuntu_user> netplan
[18:19] <TJ-> ubuntu_user: NoImNotNineVolt  locally static configuration goes in /etc/systemd/network/, dynamically generated config goes in /run/systemd/network/
[18:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> i don't know what netplan is.
[18:19] <ubuntu_user> because "netplan" is the 18.04 way
[18:19] <TJ-> ubuntu_user: in which case netplan is generating the systemd-network config in /run/systemd/network/
[18:20]  * NoImNotNineVolt slowly backs away from the discussion
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> aldcor: check ubuntu-drivers list please
[18:20] <ubuntu_user> it's another mess Cannonical came up with to ruin the distro
[18:20] <pragmaticenigma> aldcor: that command just enumerates hardware that is seen in your computer. again, i'm not familiar with dual gpu systems like the one you have. some of them you can disable one or the other card in the BIOS, some require a configuration change to the boot up process to select a card. It's not something I'm familiar with. Ask your question again, there are currently others in here that are skilled at the dual GPU support
[18:20] <ubuntu_user> correct
[18:20] <ubuntu_user> $ ls 10-netplan-eno1.network  10-netplan-enx58ef68b475e0.network  10-netplan-vlan.10.20.netdev  10-netplan-vlan.10.20.network  10-netplan-vlan.10.netdev  10-netplan-vlan.10.network
[18:21] <tomreyn> ubuntu_user: i don't like your tone, so i'll retreat as well, good luck.,
[18:21] <ubuntu_user> good
[18:21] <ubuntu_user> seeya
[18:21] <aldcor> following this one https://www.linuxbabe.com/desktop-linux/switch-intel-nvidia-graphics-card-ubuntu - i already did this. I use recomended driver according to software & updates app.
[18:21] <TJ-> ubuntu_user: The fact those IPv6 link-local addresses are being added means the host with the DNS Server is changing addresses
[18:21] <tomreyn> TJ-: they left
[18:21] <TJ-> tomreyn: aye
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu_user: volunteers take time to help you here, if you like support its wise to follow the advice
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> aldcor: can you check software&updates tab additional drivers to see wich driver is active please?
[18:22] <aldcor> ubuntu drivers list gives me : nvidia-driver-390
[18:22] <TJ-> tomreyn: I suspect the host with the DNS server has multiple ethernet ports AND they're all connected to the same switch as both of the client's NICs, and the VLAN config is wrong
[18:23] <aldcor> lotuspsychje, Using nvidia driver metapackage from nvidia-driver-390
[18:23] <tomreyn> TJ-: good to know in case this comes up again.
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> aldcor: ok tnx for checking, in nvidia settings you can see if the section prime has 'performance mode' enabled to activate your nvidia card
[18:26] <aldcor> lotuspsychje, yes, NVIDIA is selected. Maybe I should try Intel?
[18:27] <aldcor> but this should work fine since this is performance mode
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> aldcor: your original issue was nvidia wasnt active right?
[18:28] <aldcor> no, it is active for about 3 days now when i installed ubuntu 18.04
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> aldcor: so whats the issue exactly
[18:29] <aldcor> videos are stuttery/choppy
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> aldcor: can we see a pastebin of: sudo lshw -C video please?
[18:30] <aldcor> the quality is good but when action happens it doesn look smooth anymore
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> aldcor: video's online or videos on a player or both?
[18:31] <aldcor> lotuspsychje, https://pastecode.xyz/view/983ab597
[18:32] <aldcor> lotuspsychje, online. Issue is on firefox and google chrome
[18:32] <aldcor> didnt try to run videos from hd yet
[18:33] <aldcor> i have to admit.. i watch a lot of netflix so this is important :)
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> aldcor: try to install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> aldcor: your graphics card looks like its installed correctly
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> aldcor: and try a local video on vlc also as a test
[18:35] <aldcor> ok will try
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> aldcor: if those dont work, ask again in channel volunteers will pickup for you
[18:38] <conr> does anyone use Brave with 18.04? can't add extensions because of permission issues.
[18:43] <capella> This points to what I was wondering here yesterday, my Android devstack seems involved ... https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/258679/why-is-ls-suddenly-wrapping-items-with-spaces-in-single-quotes
[18:45] <Intelo> What is the likelyhood of recipient marking the email as spam if it says "Hi, Is this Peter Jason?" And the recipient is obviously not Peter..
[18:48] <aldcor> just downloaded transmission. Doesnt download. Pretty sure its related to ports but actually have no idea :D help
[18:48] <aldcor> i mean torrents doest downloa
[18:52] <aldcor> Tried different torrent with 500 seeders. Runs fine. Torrent with 7 seeders.. 0 reactions. It even showed 0 seeders. Wierd. On a page it showed 7.
[18:53] <tieinv> Mgc..1
[18:55] <aldcor> tieinv, what do u mean?
[18:56] <tieinv> sorry wrong screen <blush> :D
[18:59] <Tranquil>  السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ May the peace, mercy, and blessings of Allah be with you
[18:59] <Tranquil> to you all
[18:59] <aldcor> tieinv, now im even more curious :D
[18:59] <aldcor> Tranquil, bless you ;)
[19:00] <Tranquil> aldcor thanks alot
[19:01] <coconut> !chat | Tranquil
[19:02] <Tranquil> coconut okey and ?
[19:03] <tomreyn> Tranquil: we usually don't spend much time and text on greetings here, i assume that's what coconut meant to point out.
[19:03] <boblamont> although I've never seen that done for someone just saying "how is everyone?"
[19:03] <Tranquil> well i have my own nickname
[19:03] <Tranquil> who are you to say anything about it ?
[19:05] <tomreyn> Tranquil: let'S keep it simple: this very channel is just about ubuntu support, not about (any type of other) discussions.  if you have any ubuntu support questions, you are very welcome to ask them, or to sit around and help others, too.
[19:06] <Tranquil> tomreyn well i think i was not talking to you ?
[19:06] <Tranquil> tomreyn kindly type my nickname when i am talking to you or you can type /ignore
[19:06] <Tranquil> why you are scared
[19:06] <Tranquil> laugh out loudly
[19:08] <boblamont> I have a file on my server that I need to let a program update, can I set up a separate account for the program to log in via ftp (instead of using the main account with full privileges), and how do I let it update just that one file?
[19:08] <Tranquil> tomreyn dont be scared
[19:08] <Tranquil> laugh out loudly
[19:09] <tomreyn> Tranquil: i'm fine, thanks, please stop the off-topic chat now. thank you.
[19:09] <Tranquil> tomreyn i am here to chat
[19:09] <Tranquil> tomreyn i never stopped you from discussing any topic
[19:09] <Tranquil> tomreyn you are just wasting your time
[19:09] <ducasse> Tranquil: this is not a general chat channel
[19:09] <coconut> which is wrong here Tranquil
[19:10] <Tranquil> chatting is wrong here ?
[19:10] <boblamont> Tranquil: the purpose of this chat is to help people with Ubuntu related problems and questions
[19:10] <coconut> yes
[19:10] <Tranquil> no
[19:10] <Tranquil> boblamont so help them why are you bothering me ?
[19:11] <boblamont> Tranquil: you haven't mentioned Ubuntu in any way, that is why people are saying you are off-topic
[19:11] <ducasse> Tranquil: please ask your ubuntu question or be quiet
[19:11] <Tranquil> boblamont i was not discussing anything with anyone
[19:11] <Tranquil> boblamont he or she came from nowhere and saying what rubbish
[19:11] <Tranquil> boblamont these are not manners
[19:13] <tomreyn> boblamont: to allow someone or something from remote to update the file with limited privileges, i suggest you use an sftponly / scponly SSH configuration for this user.
[19:14] <tomreyn> boblamont: basically this: https://serverfault.com/questions/354615/allow-sftp-but-disallow-ssh
[19:21] <boblamont> tomreyn: thanks, I think that answers what I was thinking... but now I'm looking at the program that can update and I don't think it can even do sftp. I don't think I've even got standard ftp running. Can I set up a basic ftp server and restrict it to only a specific file (or at least cheat and stick the file in a subdirectory the ftp can point to by default)?
[19:31] <boblamont> and given that ftp isn't that secure, what risks are there from setting up ftp, the single user, and the directory for that user?
[19:38] <GreatEmerald> Where's the source code of mkusb? I can only find a repo that hasn't been updated for two years...
[19:38] <tomreyn> boblamont: why would you prefer ftp over sftp? is this application unable to read a local file for input?
[19:39] <tomreyn> GreatEmerald: what makes you think it was updated during the past 2 years?
[19:40] <tomreyn> GreatEmerald: this seems to be the upstream https://phillw.net/isos/linux-tools/mkusb/
[19:41] <boblamont> tomreyn: the program writes out a file, it looks like it can only use ftp to upload .. I suppose I could set up a complicated system of scripting an sftp client to look for and upload the file separately, but it I want the original program to upload it, I'm stuck with ftp
[19:42] <cryptodan> boblamont: what program does this
[19:42] <tomreyn> boblamont: oh you're referring to the client now. i was thinking this was a software running on the server
[19:43] <GreatEmerald> tomreyn: The fact that the package version changed from 12.2.9 to 12.3.2 in between 2017 and 2018
[19:43] <OerHeks> boblamont, one can use ssh to upload a file easily, scp <file> <username>@<IP address or hostname>:<Destination>
[19:44] <boblamont> cryptodan: it's called StationPlaylist. It's a music automation program, it writes metadata to a file which it can then upload
[19:44] <GreatEmerald> And yea, that FTP does have a readme that reads 12.3.2, thanks
[19:44] <aldcor> i installed shell extensions but it is still not available on tweaks
[19:44] <boblamont> OerHeks: so would it be better to just skip the program's built-in uploading?
[19:44] <tomreyn> boblamont: you can use incron to watch changes to the file system and trigger actions as a result. alternatively, if some delay is acceptable, you could also use a regular cron job which checks for changes (keeping state between runs) and uploads the file when it changed
[19:45] <leftyfb> boblamont: what about something like dropbox running on both machines?
[19:45] <tomreyn> GreatEmerald: you're weclome.
[19:45] <boblamont> I should back up a bit, I think, to get more specific
[19:46] <tomreyn> aldcor: you should provide more context if you're looking for assistence with this.
[19:46] <boblamont> the server is a running ubuntu, currrently only has ssh/sftp enabled, using key pair authentication with passwords disabled.... the program that creates the file I need updated, StationPlaylist, is running on a windows computer
[19:47] <leftyfb> boblamont: dropbox runs on both Windows and ubuntu
[19:48] <boblamont> leftyfb: does dropbox need a gui on ubuntu?
[19:50] <aldcor> oh yea, tomreyn sorry. So, I see that on Tweak app under Appearance tab there is alarm sign next to Shell. I used sudo apt install gnome-shell-extensions by instructions of one article to enable shell but it is still with alarm sign.
[19:50] <tomreyn> boblamont: you could check in ##windows on how to create a scheduled task (their cron equivalent) which monitors a directory for file changes, if that's possible. they probably have some solution fothsi as well. for uploading, there is winscp and putty's sftp client.
[19:51] <boblamont> tomreyn: I can do a scheduled task, I just hadn't really thought of externally uploading it before... I don't want to slow the process down, sicne the idea is to get the metadata changes to update immediately
[19:51] <tomreyn> aldcor: please discuss the ubuntu version and flavor (graphical desktop) you're using and show a screenshot (use imgur.com or similar)
[19:53] <aldcor> tomreyn, i am on ubuntu 18.04 and im talking about this https://i1.wp.com/itsfoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/changing-gnome-shell-theme.jpeg?w=800&ssl=1
[19:53] <tomreyn> boblamont: well there's probably something like a windows service to watch file system changes and trigger actions as a result (it's how AV real-time scanning works). OT here, obviously. but try ##windows.
[19:53] <boblamont> tomreyn: ok, thanks, I'll look into it
[19:54] <tomreyn> boblamont: if you end up preferring (insecure) ftp, there is vsftpd which can be restricted quite ok, but it'll take time to setup.
[19:55] <cryptodan> boblamont: so can you walk me through your process of updating this file?  you can do so in private as not to be offtopic here
[19:56] <boblamont> tomreyn: ok, thanks.
[19:56] <tomreyn> aldcor: i have no clue about this. what i can say basedon theimage you posted is that you are not only supposed to enable gnome shell extensions and the management of these, but also the "user themes" gnome shell extension. whether this will work as expected or is a good idea, i cannot tell.
[20:00] <aldcor> tomreyn, thanks. This is pretty good stuff. Gnome looks really cool with this stuff enabled. I will figure somethin
[20:01] <pragmaticenigma> aldcor: why are you trying to change themes? personally I avoid doing any of that because theme publishers so often forgot parts that they don't use regularly or omit, making things disappear or render strangly
[20:03] <leftyfb> boblamont: you can run dropbox headless on a server, yes
[20:06] <OerHeks> aldcor, not sure, but installing an extention needs logout/login ?
[20:06] <aldcor> pragmaticenigma, because i want it to look better. I just found pretty nice theme and everything seems nice
[20:06] <aldcor> OerHeks, will try
[20:14] <vlt> Hello. What pkg do I need to install to get "mc" with supported smbfs?
[20:15] <vlt> `mc -V | grep fs` only lists "Virtual File Systems: cpiofs, tarfs, sfs, extfs, ext2undelfs, ftpfs, sftpfs, fish"
[20:16] <aldcor> shell still not available but doesnt really matter. I have experienced some of what pragmaticenigma mentioned, so I will stick with what i have and its really nice
[20:16] <tomreyn> vlt: chances are it requires a rebuild then, or support was dropped.
[20:16] <aldcor> i have experienced in past*
[20:18] <vlt> Is there any command line file browser that supports smbfs out of the box?
[20:19] <tomreyn> vlt: there is "mount"
[20:19] <vlt> tomreyn: Ok, thanks :)
[20:20] <TJ-> vlt: according to the 'mc' changelog, in 1999 (!) : "  * smbfs was removed before, closes: #45481, #45267, #45339"
[20:22] <vlt> Hmmm ... feels like yesterday :D
[20:25] <tomreyn> vlt: and you probably want mount.cifs rather than mount.smbfs
[20:27] <ioria> vlt, not sure, but reading Ranger can do that; otherwise you need to recompile the source with --enable-vfs-smb=yes
[20:29] <vlt> ioria: Thank you. I’ll try ranger.
[20:29] <ioria> vlt, good luck
[20:48] <esro> i just wanted to say - i fucking love 18.10. great job.
[20:49] <esro> i think its best release of linux in my lifetime
[20:49] <NoImNotNineVolt> i've seen better support timelines.
[20:49] <esro> also - seems gnome guys got their shit together
[20:50] <Bashing-om> !language | esro
[20:51] <esro> you disciplining me is actually offensive. i identify as someone rudesexual opressed elbonian. please stop opressing me.
[20:52] <leftyfb> esro: please don't. This is a support channel
[20:52] <leftyfb> esro: you might be better suited in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:58] <fleabeard> hello, could someone help me with some ssh keys? I've got a VPS that has 1 ssh key installed for my root user, but I need a second ssh key installed for a non-root user. I'm getting permission denied errors when attempting to copy the non-root user to the server.
[20:58] <fleabeard> what I've done thusfar is create the non-root user on my desktop and issued a ssh-keygen, then attempted to copy it to my VPS. Of course this user resides (as non-root) on the remote VPS as well.
[21:00] <fleabeard> if it's of any value, the permission denied is saying (publickey)
[21:00] <tomreyn> fleabeard: users don't strictly have to exist on both ends. a user1@localcomputer can connect and authenticate to the server as user2@remotecomputer (user2 then has to exist there, however)
[21:01] <tomreyn> fleabeard: this said, it's also not wrong to do so, if you have a need for it.
[21:01] <fleabeard> tomreyn, thanks, I'm still very rusty in linux. Only recently have I picked it back up again after a 8 year hiatus so I'm so very rusty with all this :(
[21:02] <leftyfb> fleabeard: ssh-copy-id username@remote_host
[21:02] <tomreyn> fleabeard: basically what you do is to create an ssh keypair on the local desktop, for / as the (local) user which you will want to be able to access the remote server.
[21:02] <fleabeard> I was under the impression the non-root user has to exist on the remote machine as well, hehe
[21:02] <leftyfb> fleabeard: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-ssh-keys-on-ubuntu-1604
[21:02] <fleabeard> thank you! I'll give that a try/read
[21:02] <leftyfb> fleabeard: it has to exist on the remote machine, but not the local
[21:03] <tomreyn> fleabeard: once you created the keypair on the desktop, you can use the command leftyfb mentioned, ssh-copy-id username@remote_host, to install the public key on the remote server.
[21:05] <romibi> Hi everyone … I'm unable to boot my RPI with Ubuntu Mate anymore: These are captures of the hdmi output when trying to boot: https://i.gyazo.com/12729c00981936eca8996ae3850fbd3a.png https://i.gyazo.com/2ed9131d11f0ac3a9283cafe2a4b8af5.png Pressing Enter of Ctrl+D does nothing … only Esc (to toggle splash) and Ctrl+Alt+Delete (to reboot) does something Can anyone help me?
[21:05] <fleabeard> tomreyn, thanks, can I use the keypair I already generated earlier when I was setting up ssh for my root user?
[21:06] <romibi> For those who don't want to open the images: "Failed to start File System Check" and "Failed to start Load Kernel Modules"
[21:06] <tomreyn> fleabeard: ssh key pairs should be per local user. you would not normally want userA@desktop to connect to the server using the keypair of userB@desktop
[21:08] <tomreyn> romibi: you can boot into recovery and examine the situation from there.
[21:08] <tomreyn> !recovery
[21:10] <fleabeard> tomreyn, if it's not necessary to have the non-root user on my host machine. How would I go about creating an ssh key for it that is different from what I currently use? Sorry if this makes no sense lol
[21:11] <tomreyn> fleabeard: i just re-read your first message again and realize i may have misunderstoof your question about key re-use. you can re-use the public ssh key you previously generated on your local desktop (to authenticate as root@vps) to now also authenticate as restricteduser23@vps
[21:12] <tomreyn> fleabeard: but this is just for convenience. if you are trying to actually have a process on your desktop which can't run processes as root on the vps, you should actually have separate ssh keys.
[21:15] <tomreyn> fleabeard: now, to respond to your latest question: it is not strictly necessary to have a non-root user on the vps in addiiton to the root user, and you could directly login to the vps as root, using the ssh key. but the ubuntu way is actualyl to have both the root and a restricted user on every server and to login as the restricted user, then run root tasks using sudo.
[21:16] <fleabeard> tomreyn, oh! so if I'm understanding correctly, my root user (who isn't "root", just usermodded to be a sudoer) can run tasks at a non-root level?
[21:16] <tomreyn> the idea there is that this is good for new linux users to learn which tasks require more privilege than others, and which are potentially more dangerous than others, so you get a better feeling for it, as well as to prevent disasters as a result of typos / bad commands types into a root shell.
[21:17] <fleabeard> tomreyn, on my remote vps, I've disabled root login remotely and disabled allowpassword from ssh as well. Hoping this would be a good idea to lock down ssh.
[21:17] <tomreyn> fleabeard: when i say "root" i'm referring to the user with UID 0. are you referring to a different UID when you refer to "root"?
[21:18] <romibi> tomreyn: hm … I'll attempt it again … but the last few times i tried to boot with shift held down i got no different behaviour … only emergency mode … no recovery mode
[21:18] <fleabeard> tomreyn, is there a way to tell what UID I'm using currently?
[21:18] <tomreyn> fleabeard: id
[21:19] <tomreyn> fleabeard: for a different user: id username
[21:19] <fleabeard> tomreyn, thanks, it says uid=1000
[21:19] <tomreyn> fleabeard: so this is a restricted user unless he's GID 0.
[21:20] <tomreyn> fleabeard: whether or not this restricted user also has sudo access, is a different topic
[21:20] <fleabeard> tomreyn, yeah, I used usermod to grant them sudoer access
[21:20] <fleabeard> tomreyn, I'm just trying to run a program without root perms since I know that's unsafe. So long as I don't elevate that user to root with sudo, I should be good?
[21:22] <tomreyn> fleabeard: i think it's more common to use the "adduser" comand on debian derivates to add a user to a group: adduser username groupname
[21:22] <tomreyn> fleabeard: i suspect oyu added the restricted user to the "sudo" group
[21:23] <tomreyn> fleabeard: unless this software is malicious or the user account gets comrpomised running this program as the restricted user who also has sudo access can be fine.
[21:24] <fleabeard> tomreyn, yes. I believe that is correct. It was usermod -aG user
[21:24] <tomreyn> fleabeard: but ideally, if that's an option, you'd have a separate, restricted, non-sudo (access) user to run programs which dont require root, especially if you'll run those unattended.
[21:24] <thiras> hello guys. I have strange problem. When I change the keyboard layout to other language, almost all shourtcuts started to work including `enter` at web apps
[21:25] <tomreyn> fleabeard: and even more so if this program interacts with the network
[21:25] <thiras> it may be only occurring on chrome. i'm not totally sure
[21:26] <tomreyn> romibi: what i mean is the grub menu. but i'm not suire you actually have grub there.
[21:27] <romibi> yea i'm not sure either … :S
[21:27] <tomreyn> romibi: well if oyu dont know, i surely won't!
[21:33] <tomreyn> fleabeard: note that adding a user to the sudo group (as defined with the "%sudo" configuration somewhere in /etc/sudoers*) grants them unrestricted sudo access (after typing their password), i.e. they can run any commands as root. you can also restrict users to only run certain commands via sudo, make them run certain commands as yet another user via sudo, or limit the user account to run only some (or even none at all) commands in general.
[21:34] <romibi> well … i press shift before i see the rasbperry logos: nothing changes, i press shift once i see the raspberry logos: nothing changes, and the failed file system check is the first thing after after the raspberry logo
[21:34] <pjs> Any software you all recommend for editing PDF's (ie, PDF forms, just click form field, type, save)? Libreoffice is painfully slow to use (having to manually select text tool, position the text, etc.)
[21:35] <fleabeard> tomreyn, yeah, that's why I was hoping to pull off creating a non-user account that can ssh into my VPS. But it seems only the sudoer user account can do it without it screeching about permission being denied :(
[21:35] <fleabeard> s/non-user/non-root user
[21:37] <tomreyn> fleabeard: are you saying that only the remote root user can apparently authenticate on your VPS, it is not lṕossible to login (by ssh) there as a restricted server? if so, then you have a configuration wrong.
[21:40] <romibi> ok … putting the sd card in my linux notebook shows both the boot partition as well as the main os partition …
[21:41] <tomreyn> romibi: maybe their UUIDs changed and fstab needs to be updated?
[21:41] <tomreyn> also you could not unount them and run an fsck on them
[21:41] <tomreyn> s/not/noW/
[21:42] <romibi> unmount from the notebook but keep plugged in and run fsck? ok …
[21:43] <tomreyn> exactly
[21:43] <tomreyn> "blkid" will show their UUIDs, those need to be the same as in the / file systems' /etc/fstab
[21:45] <romibi> "Ungültige magische Zahl im Superblock" whatever that means in english … "invalid magic value in superblock"?
[21:45] <tomreyn> what did you run against what?
[21:46] <tomreyn> maybe you ran fsck against a swap partition?
[21:46] <romibi> sudo fsck /dev/sdb (which is the sd card)
[21:46] <romibi> which contains 2 partitions …
[21:46] <tomreyn> romibi: i think oyu said you had multiple partitions on there
[21:46] <tomreyn> right
[21:47] <romibi> should i run it agains each partition separately?
[21:47] <tomreyn> storages can contain partition tables, which define partitions. partitions can contain file systems. fsck performs a file system check.
[21:47] <tomreyn> you should.
[21:49] <romibi> there were some stuff to repair … should i try to boot again?
[21:49] <tomreyn> romibi: probably, did you notice what i wrote about UUIDs and fstab, though?
[21:50] <romibi> ah right … yes … checking
[21:50] <coconut> Does it make any difference between start point of mbr or gpt when cp'ing the ubuntu.iso to usb?
[21:53] <tomreyn> romibi: you may also want to inspect the system log which was (maybe/hopefully) written during the previousd boot attempt to understand why module loading failed, this is probably still an issue now.
[21:55] <tomreyn> coconut: i know what mbr and gpt partition tables are, and that these partition tables and boot codes are written toi diffierent places on the disk, but i'm still not understanding your question.
[21:56] <TJ-> coconut: the ISO needs to be written starting at sector 0 of the target media
[21:56] <coconut> tomreyn: i am just trying to figure out whether then end result will be same with both schemes as a start point.
[21:57] <coconut> TJ- : so the end result is exactly the same then?
[21:58] <TJ-> coconut: like tomreyn, your question confuses me. Same as what?
[21:58] <romibi> tomreyn: blkid did not show any uuids but booting works now …
[21:58] <TJ-> coconut: the Ubuntu ISO images are hybrid, meaning they have all of ISO-9660 file-system, Master Boot Record, and GUID Partition Tables, built in
[21:59] <tomreyn> romibi: glad you solved it :)
[21:59] <TJ-> coconut: oh, and ISO-9660 El-Torito boot entries too
[21:59] <romibi> but while booting it still showed some failed stuff …
[22:00] <tomreyn> romibi: ah, so the issue was really not just the file system corruption (though it was apparently part of it)
[22:00] <coconut> TJ-: so the start of a mbr or gpt on usb disk sdx makes no difference at all?
[22:00] <coconut> as end result?
[22:00] <tomreyn> coconut: you'll need to overwrite existing partition table and partitions on the target
[22:01] <TJ-> coconut: MBR always starts at sector 0 (and is only 1 sector in size). GPT always starts at sector 1 and is usually 33 sectors in size
[22:01] <TJ-> coconut: additionally, there's a secondary GPT at the end of the media, also 33 sectors long
[22:02] <coconut> TJ-: ok so the mbt or gpt is left in tact when cp'ing the iso on it?
[22:03] <coconut> or is this chosen by the install tool?
[22:03] <TJ-> coconut: if you mean "cp filename.iso /dev/sdx" then yes, it is a bit-accurate copy
[22:04] <coconut> yes i do mean this :)
[22:04] <romibi> tomreyn: in /var/log/syslog there is nothing between 20:47 and 22:54 … so no logs from all my boot attempts there …
[22:04] <romibi> would booting logs be somewhere else?
[22:05] <TJ-> romibi: try "journalctl -b -1" for the boot before this one
[22:05] <TJ-> romibi: check the timstamps match what you'd expect - otherwise the log didn't get committed to disk
[22:06] <coconut> Thanks TJ, tomreyn, you both make this channel great! :D
[22:06] <tomreyn> coconut, TJ: which partition table is left intact, the one on the source (ISO), or the one on the target (previously written partition table)?
[22:07] <tomreyn> i suspect you're discussing different things
[22:07] <tomreyn> romibi: i see. i guess the file system was too broken to be mounted writable then.
[22:07] <romibi> wait … that can't be … no way my raspberry pi was running nearly a year without power outage: -- Logs begin at Sun 2018-01-28 16:58:18 CET, end at Mon 2019-01-07 23:05:01 CET. --
[22:08] <coconut> tomreyn: i only assumed...
[22:09] <romibi> ah no these are all logs?
[22:09] <TJ-> coconut: tomreyn for the avoidance of doubt, using 'cp somefile /dev/sdx' is going to overwrite sdx from sector 0 for the length of somefile
[22:09] <tomreyn> coconut: so i think TJ is saying that during cp the partition table, as found on the ISO file, is copied precisely as found there, to the target (overwriting partition tables previously stored there)
[22:10] <coconut> okidoki, i do understand now, thnx. :)
[22:10] <TJ-> tomreyn: I'd not put it that specific since that implies 'cp' knows what a partition table is
[22:10] <romibi> or … the clock was wrong on last boot …
[22:10] <tomreyn> TJ-: thanks for clarifying what you mean there, i assume coconut took this as "the existing partition table on the /dev/sdx target of the copy operation will remain intact"
[22:10] <TJ-> 'cp' just copies bits from A to B regardless
[22:26] <romibi2> thanks tomreyn for your help … i think the failing thing remaining on boot is nothing new … i plan to migrate the stuff on this raspberry pi onto a vps or similar soon anyways
[23:04] <olof_szary> Hello all, Is it possible to fall back to old ethernet interface naming without restart?
[23:04] <olof_szary> running ubuntu 18 if that matters at all
[23:08] <OerHeks> that would be a grub option to do so, net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0
[23:10] <gambl0r3> hi guys
[23:11] <olof_szary> OerHeks: ok, will try to look into kexec then
[23:11] <gambl0r3> i have to run 'source ~/.bashrc' manually in order for my terminal preferences to update. anyone can help me?
[23:11] <gambl0r3> i created a bunch of aliases but they dont work until i run 'source'
[23:13] <gambl0r3> hello?
[23:13] <olof_szary> gambl0r3: export?
[23:13] <gambl0r3> export what
[23:13] <Audioproblems> Hey there
[23:15] <olof_szary> so, you have the line <<alias a="the b command">> in .bashrc,
[23:15] <gambl0r3> olof_szary, positive
[23:15] <olof_szary> now, what happens if you open a new terminal
[23:15] <gambl0r3> what do you mean what happens
[23:16] <olof_szary> are they not preserved?
[23:16] <Audioproblems> Does anyone here have any experience with sound on laptops?
[23:16] <gambl0r3> the aliases are in the .bashrc file i just cant use them
[23:16] <gambl0r3> until i run 'source'
[23:16] <olof_szary> the source should be necesary only after editing the file, to update the config of current terminal
[23:17] <olof_szary> all the other terminals that you are starting after the edit should be based on the updated file and should have aliases already "in" them
[23:18] <olof_szary> is that not a case?
[23:19] <gambl0r3> aliases are in the bashrc file, its just not running
[23:20] <Audioproblems> So, I have two problems, both of witch aren't there in Windows. The internal microphone has a high pitch 'rotating' sound, and the external mic also records the output (it's a combined jack, both output and mic). Anyone know a solution? I didn't find any solutioins that worked
[23:20] <Audioproblems> I had tried both setting some things in alsamixer, and I also tried hdajackretask
[23:26] <olof_szary> what do you mean by running?
[23:27] <epicmetal> Is there a quick way to toggle between minimal and non-minimal install on an already installed system?
[23:28] <tomreyn> epicmetal: which kind of system?
[23:28] <tomreyn> desktop (which DE?) or server?
[23:28] <epicmetal> tomreyn: Ubuntu 18.10
[23:28] <epicmetal> Just the regular desktop install
[23:29] <epicmetal> I'm guessing it's just a function of the OS installer
[23:29] <tomreyn> i *think* it's: sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop_
[23:30] <tomreyn> the trailing underscore is relevant
[23:30] <OerHeks> no, minimal is an install option, but would be a nice idea for user creation
[23:30] <epicmetal> User creation?
[23:30] <tomreyn> oops, it's not underscore, it's ^
[23:30] <tomreyn> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[23:30] <tomreyn> epicmetal: ^ this
[23:30] <OerHeks> when you add a new user, give it a minimal software selection
[23:31] <gambl0r3> olof_szary, when i type my aliases, it says command not found
[23:31] <gambl0r3> do you understsand?>
[23:31] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel#Usage_.28alternative.29
[23:31] <olof_szary> wait, soon I will be on my linux machine, not telling from my memory
[23:32] <epicmetal> tomreyn: that seems to select the right things. Does removing ubuntu-desktop then doing an autoremove reverse the process?
[23:32] <tomreyn> epicmetal: i would not count on it.
[23:32] <epicmetal> tomreyn: thanks though, this actually gives me all I really need. I just wanted to see which packages I'm missing out on
[23:33] <Sushi-san> Does System 76 make decent machines? What
[23:33] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[23:33] <Sushi-san> *What's the consensus here?
[23:33] <epicmetal> (spoiler: nothing I actually want)
[23:33] <tomreyn> Sushi-san: trhe consensus is that this is not an ubuntu support question, but you could discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:34] <OerHeks> epicmetal, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/ubuntu.bionic/desktop.minimal-remove
[23:35] <tomreyn> OerHeks: nice find!
[23:35] <OerHeks> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/9f8o0d/minimal_vs_normal_installation/
[23:35] <OerHeks> lots of other desktops too
[23:36] <samlamamma> I'm in package hell. Basically I've shit the bed by having wine 1.6 installed and trying to install wine 3.2. --fix-broken install doesn't work. My only idea is to purge all wine related packages but I have no idea how to do that.
[23:36] <OerHeks> best way for wine upgrades is playonlinux POL, that gives a wine ppa too AFAIK
[23:36] <epicmetal> OerHeks: nice, that one is hard to find with a search engine
[23:37] <IniGit> hi I'm making backup of my external drives via rsync. Is it also possible to backup the whole system via rsync --- I mean will it work to run the backuped system? I do not want to do dd the whole drive for every backup, simply because it is a ssd and because it takes so long
[23:37] <Audioproblems> Oh, and it's an Asus laptop and Realtek audio. And I have version 18.04.1
[23:37] <samlamamma>  OerHeks: Yeah, but I can't uninstall this wine (because it complains regarding unmet dependencies).
[23:37] <IniGit> the whole system = the drive where Ubuntu is installed on
[23:37] <epicmetal> OerHeks: I'm guessing if I mount the installer ISO I'll find that file somewhere on it (for future reference)?
[23:37] <IniGit> home directory etc boot ...
[23:39] <horus125> hey, I moved from hdmi cable to dvi and now I can't get my monitor's max resolution  1920x1080 (stuck on max 1600x900) can anybody help?
[23:39] <IniGit> I mean will it be possible to just take the Bacckup drive and plug it in instead of the orginal drive? when using rsync
[23:40] <olof_szary> gambl0r3: ok, i'm back, could you pastebin me what is the ~/.bashrc content and what $: alias command returns
[23:40] <gambl0r3> olof_szary, ok
[23:40] <samlamamma> OK dpkg -P works
[23:41] <gambl0r3> olof_szary, https://paste.gnome.org/ptg8ihnc1
[23:41] <gambl0r3> check the very bottom for aliases
[23:44] <tomreyn> horus125: maybe it's a "single link" DVI cable. may be a question for ##hardware
[23:44] <olof_szary> and running "alias" command returns?
[23:45] <olof_szary> because the bashrc looks fine to me
[23:45] <horus125> tomreyn: thanks, I'll read up on that
[23:46] <gambl0r3> olof_szary, alias commands runs 'commont not found'
[23:46] <gambl0r3> olof_szary, in order for the aliases to work i have to do 'source ~/.bashrc' first to work
[23:47] <tomreyn> horus125: you can also "apt-get install read-edid", then run: sudo get-edid|parse-edid
[23:47] <tomreyn> horus125: this will show what the mointor tells it can do
[23:47] <olof_szary> gambl0r3: what >>echo $BASH_VERSION<< return?
[23:48] <gambl0r3> nothing
[23:48] <EriC^^> gambl0r3: did you logout and back in after putting the aliases?
[23:48] <olof_szary> so what shell are you using?
[23:48] <gambl0r3> EriC^^, yes like a million times already
[23:49] <gambl0r3> olof_szary, im using oh-myzsh
[23:50] <olof_szary> so I believe you need to find a configuration file to oh-myzsh then. I am unfamiliar with that
[23:51] <Audioproblems> Where would be a good place to ask if I have a problem? Forum or mailing list?
[23:51] <olof_szary> and i believe .bashrc is only automatically run in bash'
[23:52] <tomreyn> !audio | Unfortunately this is all I know (be sure to go over this), Audioproblems
[23:54] <tomreyn> Audioproblems: once you tried all of this and generated the alsa-info output, you can try turning to #alsa or the other support options they discuss on their website (if any). you can also try (better beofre this)  different kernel version.
[23:55] <gambl0r3> olof_szary, not sure what you're talking about but thanks
[23:56] <olof_szary> gambl0r3: .bashrc would be run if you are using bash shell
[23:56] <olof_szary> since you are not using that, you need to use the prefedined config for your shell
[23:57] <gambl0r3> olof_szary, i dont know, i click on terminal
[23:57] <gambl0r3> that opens up the terminal window
[23:58] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: read the commented lines on top of ~/.profile
[23:59] <tomreyn> as well as those on top of ~/.bashrc