=== pstolowski|afk is now known as pstolowski [08:10] good morning desktoppers [08:10] Morning oSoMoN [08:10] good afternoon duflu [08:14] good morning [08:16] salut didrocks [08:17] salut oSoMoN [08:28] Hi didrocks [08:28] And with that, afternoon tea time === JanC is now known as Guest41406 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [08:33] hey duflu [08:37] k, back, good morning desktopers! [08:38] good morning seb128 [08:41] hey oSoMoN :) [09:00] good morning all [09:02] hey ricotz, happy new year. how are you? [09:02] yo [09:03] lo Laney [09:03] hey Laney willcooke, good morning u.k [09:03] and hi ricotz [09:03] Morning willcooke [09:03] morning all [09:03] hi duflu [09:05] happy new year too :) [09:06] * Laney nods [09:06] hey willcooke, Laney, ricotz [09:06] seb128, I am good, hoping to catch up a bit [09:06] hey duflu seb128 didrocks ricotz willcooke [09:08] good morning ricotz, happy new year [09:08] Morning! [09:08] good morning Laney, willcooke, Trevinho [09:09] Hey oSoMoN, all good? ☺️ [09:09] all good! you? [09:10] Trevinho, good morning, or longitudinally appropriate greeting [09:11] oSoMoN: yes thanks [09:11] duflu: ahaha, yeah morning is fine now [09:12] hey didrocks Laney oSoMoN [09:12] hey trevinho [09:29] seb128: hi :-) [10:24] hi everyone 0/ [10:25] didrocks: do you know if is it safe to use https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/git-buildpackage/git-dch.1.en.html for generating the changelog? [10:25] I just tried and the output looks fine at a first glance [10:25] morning! [10:31] clobrano: yeah, that's what I used as well TBH ;) [10:31] didrocks: yay, thanks :D [10:31] Too many details sometimes though [10:31] but if that's fine by you, don't really bother ;) [10:32] didrocks: I agree, I might modify something for very long merge branches like gtk2-dark. But it's still a huge help [10:33] yep, good scaffolding at least [13:03] * Laney just did some Clouding™ [13:03] added some new machines to host appstream.ubuntu.com and deleted the old ones [13:03] it mostly worked magically [13:04] that's the cloud equivalent of "laney just opened firefox and read the news" [13:14] :) [13:24] Laney, didrocks: changelog ready [13:25] neat [13:25] great! [14:31] (on our way to start the meeting, just finishing an hangout) [14:32] sorry for the delay [14:33] ok [14:33] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2019-01-08 [14:33] Meeting started Tue Jan 8 14:33:43 2019 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [14:33] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/RHiGQXZJ/ubuntu-desktop-1904-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2019-01-08 | Current topic: [14:34] Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [14:34] o/ [14:34] _o/ [14:34] o/ [14:34] hey [14:34] o/ [14:34] o/ [14:34] o/ [14:34] 🎉 [14:34] Happy new year! [14:34] o/ [14:34] Ok, so this will probably be a very short meeting [14:35] Everyone was on holiday, so not much in the way of weekly updates [14:35] o/ [14:35] Ive looked at the rls bugs, not much to see there [14:35] BB Incoming is clear [14:36] CC Incoming is clear [14:36] DD Incoming is clear [14:37] Just looking at the tracking bugs [14:38] BB has a few, but they all look like they are in hand [14:38] This one has an open question: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1807460 [14:38] Ubuntu bug 1807460 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu Bionic) "Filenames with spaces not accepted when connecting to certificate-authenticated wifi" [Undecided,Incomplete] [14:39] I'm dealing with it [14:39] oops, o/ [14:39] thanks seb128 [14:39] Everything else is in hand by the looks of things [14:40] Laney, do you want to take us through the proposed-migration list? [14:40] :-D [14:40] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages [14:40] k [14:41] things that I think need someone assigning are [14:41] ubuntu-make tests, libtheora tests, promoting nautilus stuff, glib2.0 build failure [14:42] * Laney will look at the last one, perhaps jbicha reported that somewhere already [14:42] I didn't report yet [14:42] k nm [14:43] Ubuntu Make tests, didrocks do you know if there is an active community maintainer for that? I dropped an email to who I thought it was but didnt hear back. It was over xmas though [14:44] willcooke: I doubt he's really active or will know what to do with the ssl issue [14:44] I can look at the nautilus promotion [14:44] can be as simple as test certificates expering [14:44] or maybe will be way more complex and a python changes being API backward incompatible [14:45] is the Make one affecting anything else atm? Is it a high priority issue? [14:45] (which already happened in the ssl modules, even the third digit "patch fix" serie has broken one) [14:45] willcooke: I think it's blocking some pygobject promotion from what I see [14:45] I don't think it's blocking anything else [14:45] ah [14:45] hehe [14:46] right, holidays wiped my memory about that :p [14:46] (apport as well is blocking it btw) [14:46] (I think apport goes down to valgrind needing to be fixed at this point that got assigned to Dimitri by Steve yesterday) [14:47] ok, so it's only Ubuntu Make [14:47] didrocks, would you mind adding it to your list for when you get a chance to look at it? [14:47] willcooke: if we agree to delay the isntaller work, yes [14:47] but it can mean a week pushing off, and we are already late on it [14:48] (last ssl issue was a week of debugging, hence that value) [14:48] and the issue was python itself [14:48] Well, if you can take a very quick look to see if it's easy, and if not... then we can revisit [14:48] define "very quick" please :) [14:48] didrocks, 3 hours [14:48] that's not quick :p [14:48] k, let's see if I can get anything by this [14:49] thx [14:49] thx didrocks [14:49] Who can look at the libtheora one? [14:49] didrocks, if you know how to easily check if it's an expired certificate issue or a real bug just do that, if it's a real bug let's revisit who can own it? [14:50] seb128: I don't know, I have to look back at the code which certificate is used first [14:50] so, need digging [14:50] k [14:50] then browsing on the web [14:50] so what willcooke said [14:50] not more than a couple hours [14:50] then we revisit [14:50] 3 hours is short already to get that [14:51] willcooke, I can look at libtheora, seems to be due to valgrind as well [14:51] or anyone else be my guest and be quicker ;) [14:51] thanks seb128 [14:51] k, that takes care of the list [14:51] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/RHiGQXZJ/ubuntu-desktop-1904-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2019-01-08 | Current topic: AOB [14:51] Anyone got anything they'd like to talk about? [14:52] 5 [14:52] 4 [14:52] nope [14:52] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/RHiGQXZJ/ubuntu-desktop-1904-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently [14:52] Meeting ended Tue Jan 8 14:52:45 2019 UTC. [14:52] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-01-08-14.33.moin.txt [14:52] Thanks all [14:52] thx [14:52] ty [14:53] thx [15:00] just tried, and worked on cosmic… [15:00] so not expired certificate [15:00] python again changed something in its ABI [15:02] grrrr [15:04] should we just bounce back to foundations/doko? [15:05] last time I tried on ssl, it was a "needed fix" [15:05] needs to dig deeper, but I'm sure the exception they return has changed and that's why the test fails [15:06] but will look at it later, need a disco vm or upgrading maybe [15:07] the question is why a python upload doesn't trigger all autopkgtests [15:11] willcooke: when you've a sec, please new team updates post :) [15:13] Trevinho, thanks for the reminder. Done [15:13] https://community.ubuntu.com/t/monday-14th-january-2019/9344 [15:13] nw, and tha [15:15] * Laney hands Trevinho a pen to push around [15:16] * Trevinho can't write [15:17] * seb128 hands trevinho a text editor === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|afk [18:48] night all