[08:10] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[08:10] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[08:10] <oSoMoN> good afternoon duflu
[08:14] <didrocks> good morning
[08:16] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[08:17] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[08:28] <duflu> Hi didrocks
[08:28] <duflu> And with that, afternoon tea time
[08:33] <didrocks> hey duflu
[08:37] <seb128> k, back, good morning desktopers!
[08:38] <oSoMoN> good morning seb128
[08:41] <seb128> hey oSoMoN :)
[09:00] <ricotz> good morning all
[09:02] <seb128> hey ricotz, happy new year. how are you?
[09:02] <Laney> yo
[09:03] <duflu> lo Laney
[09:03] <seb128> hey Laney willcooke, good morning u.k
[09:03] <duflu> and hi ricotz
[09:03] <duflu> Morning willcooke
[09:03] <willcooke> morning all
[09:03] <willcooke> hi duflu
[09:05] <ricotz> happy new year too :)
[09:06]  * Laney nods
[09:06] <didrocks> hey willcooke, Laney, ricotz
[09:06] <ricotz> seb128, I am good, hoping to catch up a bit
[09:06] <Laney> hey duflu seb128 didrocks ricotz willcooke
[09:08] <oSoMoN> good morning ricotz, happy new year
[09:08] <Trevinho> Morning!
[09:08] <oSoMoN> good morning Laney, willcooke, Trevinho
[09:09] <Trevinho> Hey oSoMoN, all good? ☺️
[09:09] <oSoMoN> all good! you?
[09:10] <duflu> Trevinho, good morning, or longitudinally appropriate greeting
[09:11] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: yes thanks
[09:11] <Trevinho> duflu: ahaha, yeah morning is fine now
[09:12] <ricotz> hey didrocks Laney oSoMoN
[09:12] <seb128> hey trevinho
[09:29] <Trevinho> seb128: hi :-)
[10:24] <clobrano> hi everyone 0/
[10:25] <clobrano> didrocks: do you know if is it safe to use https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/git-buildpackage/git-dch.1.en.html for generating the changelog?
[10:25] <clobrano> I just tried and the output looks fine at a first glance
[10:25] <andyrock> morning!
[10:31] <didrocks> clobrano: yeah, that's what I used as well TBH ;)
[10:31] <clobrano> didrocks: yay, thanks :D
[10:31] <didrocks> Too many details sometimes though
[10:31] <didrocks> but if that's fine by you, don't really bother ;)
[10:32] <clobrano> didrocks: I agree, I might modify something for very long merge branches like gtk2-dark. But it's still a huge help
[10:33] <didrocks> yep, good scaffolding at least
[13:03]  * Laney just did some Clouding™
[13:03] <Laney> added some new machines to host appstream.ubuntu.com and deleted the old ones
[13:03] <Laney> it mostly worked magically
[13:04] <Laney> that's the cloud equivalent of "laney just opened firefox and read the news"
[13:14] <willcooke> :)
[13:24] <clobrano> Laney, didrocks: changelog ready
[13:25] <Laney> neat
[13:25] <didrocks> great!
[14:31] <seb128> (on our way to start the meeting, just finishing an hangout)
[14:32] <willcooke> sorry for the delay
[14:33] <willcooke> ok
[14:33] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2019-01-08
[14:33] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan  8 14:33:43 2019 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[14:34] <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[14:34] <tseliot> o/
[14:34] <seb128> _o/
[14:34] <andyrock> o/
[14:34] <didrocks> hey
[14:34] <Nafallo> o/
[14:34] <Trevinho> o/
[14:34] <oSoMoN> o/
[14:34] <jbicha> 🎉
[14:34] <willcooke> Happy new year!
[14:34] <kenvandine> o/
[14:34] <willcooke> Ok, so this will probably be a very short meeting
[14:35] <willcooke> Everyone was on holiday, so not much in the way of weekly updates
[14:35] <jibel> o/
[14:35] <willcooke> Ive looked at the rls bugs, not much to see there
[14:35] <willcooke> BB Incoming is clear
[14:36] <willcooke> CC Incoming is clear
[14:36] <willcooke> DD Incoming is clear
[14:37] <willcooke> Just looking at the tracking bugs
[14:38] <willcooke> BB has a few, but they all look like they are in hand
[14:38] <willcooke> This one has an open question: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1807460
[14:39] <seb128> I'm dealing with it
[14:39] <tjaalton> oops, o/
[14:39] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[14:39] <willcooke> Everything else is in hand by the looks of things
[14:40] <willcooke> Laney, do you want to take us through the proposed-migration list?
[14:40] <kenvandine> :-D
[14:40] <willcooke> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[14:40] <Laney> k
[14:41] <Laney> things that I think need someone assigning are
[14:41] <Laney> ubuntu-make tests, libtheora tests, promoting nautilus stuff, glib2.0 build failure
[14:42]  * Laney will look at the last one, perhaps jbicha reported that somewhere already
[14:42] <jbicha> I didn't report yet
[14:42] <Laney> k nm
[14:43] <willcooke> Ubuntu Make tests, didrocks do you know if there is an active community maintainer for that?  I dropped an email to who I thought it was but didnt hear back.  It was over xmas though
[14:44] <didrocks> willcooke: I doubt he's really active or will know what to do with the ssl issue
[14:44] <seb128> I can look at the nautilus promotion
[14:44] <didrocks> can be as simple as test certificates expering
[14:44] <didrocks> or maybe will be way more complex and a python changes being API backward incompatible
[14:45] <willcooke> is the Make one affecting anything else atm?  Is it a high priority issue?
[14:45] <didrocks> (which already happened in the ssl modules, even the third digit "patch fix" serie has broken one)
[14:45] <didrocks> willcooke: I think it's blocking some pygobject promotion from what I see
[14:45] <seb128> I don't think it's blocking anything else
[14:45] <seb128> ah
[14:45] <willcooke> hehe
[14:46] <seb128> right, holidays wiped my memory about that :p
[14:46] <didrocks> (apport as well is blocking it btw)
[14:46] <seb128> (I think apport goes down to valgrind needing to be fixed at this point that got assigned to Dimitri by Steve yesterday)
[14:47] <didrocks> ok, so it's only Ubuntu Make
[14:47] <willcooke> didrocks, would you mind adding it to your list for when you get a chance to look at it?
[14:47] <didrocks> willcooke: if we agree to delay the isntaller work, yes
[14:47] <didrocks> but it can mean a week pushing off, and we are already late on it
[14:48] <didrocks> (last ssl issue was a week of debugging, hence that value)
[14:48] <didrocks> and the issue was python itself
[14:48] <willcooke> Well, if you can take a very quick look to see if it's easy, and if not... then we can revisit
[14:48] <didrocks> define "very quick" please :)
[14:48] <willcooke> didrocks, 3 hours
[14:48] <seb128> that's not quick :p
[14:48] <didrocks> k, let's see if I can get anything by this
[14:49] <willcooke> thx
[14:49] <seb128> thx didrocks
[14:49] <willcooke> Who can look at the libtheora one?
[14:49] <seb128> didrocks, if you know how to easily check if it's an expired certificate issue or a real bug just do that, if it's a real bug let's revisit who can own it?
[14:50] <didrocks> seb128: I don't know, I have to look back at the code which certificate is used first
[14:50] <didrocks> so, need digging
[14:50] <seb128> k
[14:50] <didrocks> then browsing on the web
[14:50] <seb128> so what willcooke said
[14:50] <seb128> not more than a couple hours
[14:50] <seb128> then we revisit
[14:50] <didrocks> 3 hours is short already to get that
[14:51] <seb128> willcooke, I can look at libtheora, seems to be due to valgrind as well
[14:51] <didrocks> or anyone else be my guest and be quicker ;)
[14:51] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[14:51] <willcooke> k, that takes care of the list
[14:51] <willcooke> #topic AOB
[14:51] <willcooke> Anyone got anything they'd like to talk about?
[14:52] <willcooke> 5
[14:52] <willcooke> 4
[14:52] <andyrock> nope
[14:52] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[14:52] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jan  8 14:52:45 2019 UTC.
[14:52] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-01-08-14.33.moin.txt
[14:52] <willcooke> Thanks all
[14:52] <andyrock> thx
[14:52] <Laney> ty
[14:53] <seb128> thx
[15:00] <didrocks> just tried, and worked on cosmic…
[15:00] <didrocks> so not expired certificate
[15:00] <didrocks> python again changed something in its ABI
[15:02] <willcooke> grrrr
[15:04] <seb128> should we just bounce back to foundations/doko?
[15:05] <didrocks> last time I tried on ssl, it was a "needed fix"
[15:05] <didrocks> needs to dig deeper, but I'm sure the exception they return has changed and that's why the test fails
[15:06] <didrocks> but will look at it later, need a disco vm or upgrading maybe
[15:07] <didrocks> the question is why a python upload doesn't trigger all autopkgtests
[15:11] <Trevinho> willcooke: when you've a sec, please new team updates post :)
[15:13] <willcooke> Trevinho, thanks for the reminder. Done
[15:13] <willcooke> https://community.ubuntu.com/t/monday-14th-january-2019/9344
[15:13] <Trevinho> nw, and tha
[15:15]  * Laney hands Trevinho a pen to push around
[15:16]  * Trevinho can't write
[15:17]  * seb128 hands trevinho a text editor
[18:48] <willcooke> night all